Outrage After HuffPo Contributor Calls Catholics ‘Jesus Eaters’
- Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:38am by
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Can you mock a religion in public and slough it off as “just a joke?” Writer Larry Doyle thinks so.
On February 24th, the Huffington Post published a piece on its Comedy page entitled “The Jesus-Eating Cult of Rick Santorum.” The author of the post is Larry Doyle, a writer with credits on such serious TV dramas as The Simpsons, Beavis & Butt-Head, and Looney Tunes.
Mr. Doyle initially promoted the post on his Twitter feed this way.
I’m guessing that tweet did not drive enough traffic to the site, so Doyle followed up with another tweet, using a more offensive and incendiary headline.
That tweet lit a fire and traffic has been buzzing to HuffPo and his story.
I have read the post (and Doyle’s non-apology apology). My initial response was one of non-surprise. We so often see people trashing/mocking someone or something after they have broken away from that person or thing, do not understand it, or are afraid that it is gaining influence in their world. Perhaps all three conditions exist here.
So what’s so offensive?
The headline for starters.
“The Jesus-Eating Cult of Rick Santorum” — In just a few words, a leading candidate for the GOP presidential slot is being called a cannibal and a cult member.
Doyle then launches into his brutal attacks on Catholics. He describes the faith as a “so-called church” and also refers to it as the “tactical arm of the North American Man-Boy Love Association” (NAMBLA).
But he then takes a curious detour: he makes certain that the reader knows that his “wisdom” on the topic comes from experience. So wise is he, though, that he was clever enough to free himself from Catholicism:
As a former member of same sect (an Irish-Catholic, the worst kind), I have read the texts, participated in the rites, and even seen behind the curtain, as it were, as a one-time altar boy, so help me. I managed to escape, but then, Santorum is in much deeper than I ever was.
Doyle says clearly that he is a “former member” and yet, once criticism started piling up on his Twitter feed, he quickly reverted to the old excuse of saying, “but I’m one of YOU… that makes it okay for me to attack:”
He did say that he is a “former member” and “managed to escape,” didn’t he? So which is it? Is he Catholic or not?
Let’s get back to the initial post and more of the offensive slurs.
Doyle claims that he has discovered a “possible connection between the Roman Catholic Church pedophile program and NAMBLA, which I discovered after conducting some research on the internet.”
That’s quite an unsubstantiated statement. A possible connection? Nothing is specified. No sources, no story links, no dates. Just a smear associating the Catholic Church with one of the most offensive groups known to man.
He also calls Pope Benedict XVI “a former Nazi.” (That’s a slam popular with the Left, as witnessed by a Blaze item published last October when Susan Sarandon said something similar. We showed the accusation is disingenuous.)
Doyle wraps his humor piece with the following:
Need I remind you that only once in our great history has a Roman Catholic been elected president, and how tragically it ended?
Nothing says funny like the assassination of a President. Bad taste aside, what’s the suggestion there?
Understandably, Catholics and people of faith have responded to Doyle’s post (including Irish-Catholics who do not consider themselves to be “the worst kind”). Many are demanding an apology from HuffPo honcho Arianna Huffington. The list of offended faithful includes Bill Donohue of the Catholic League:
These people may be threatened by Catholicism, but what gives them the chills are babies. And they really flip over couples like the Santorums and the Palins who don’t abort their disabled children.
Mr. Donohue’s response drew fire from Larry Doyle in his “apology.” He dismissed Donohue by referring to the well-respected president of the Catholic League as, “the official fake spokesman for the Church through his League of Extraordinary Catholics or whatever it’s called…”
Following the wave of demands for an apology, four days after posting his attack on Santorum and Catholics this headline appeared on the site:
In other words, Doyle was not apologizing. And he was clear about it from the start: “Actually, I’m not sorry at all, but I suppose an explanation is in order.”
He tried to calm the waters, explaining:
My criticism took the form of a ridiculously over-the-top broadside against Roman Catholicism, a demonstration of the type of vicious religious ignorance and intolerance I too often see coming from too many so-called Christians, especially Santorum.
Larry Doyle is at least accurate in his characterization of his work as a “type of vicious religious ignorance and intolerance…” I just can’t seem to find any examples of Rick Santorum being vicious, ignorant or intolerant when it comes to the faith of others. Santorum is a practicing Catholic who wants to be able to follow his faith as his Church sees fit.
“Larry Doyle’s recent anti-Catholic screed in the Huffington Post, ’The Jesus-Eating Cult of Rick Santorum,’ is bigoted and unacceptable, and a perfect example of ‘flame-throwing, name-calling, and simplistic attack dog rhetoric,’” a group of conservative leaders said in a letter to Arianna Huffington.
“His column should be taken off your site, and you should issue an apology for ever publishing such trash.”
“Bigots like Doyle think they can hurl the most contemptible insults towards Catholics (‘Jesus eaters’) and when called out, claim it was just a joke. What cowardice. What a double standard,” the letter says later.
“If such an article was written concerning the Islamic or Jewish faith, the public outcry would be overwhelming, and rightly so. But anti-Catholicism is the last acceptable form of bigotry, and The Huffington Post is taking advantage of that bigotry for all it’s worth.”
The letter is signed by Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List and Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, among others.
What do you think? Is this a comedy writer just trying to be over-the-top, or did he cross a line? And are conservative leaders right to demand an actual apology?
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Comments (373)
Listen_then_think
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:26amSo Larry Doyle admits he is a homosexual. Him and Bill Maher should get together and NOT reproduce. That would be 2 less stalkers walking free. At least for a few weeks until their eternal love burned out and they opt for promiscuity. Hopefully they can both see the light and repent before it is too late.
Report Post »LondoMollari
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:53amOh, I don’t think we have to worry with either of those two. Maher may be one of the only atheists/agnostics who will go after Islam, but he’s still too much of a shill, scronny wimpy libby to land a serious chick (a brief “relationship” with Ann Coulter doesn’t count) and Doyle, well, homosexual relations = no kids so, no danger there.
Report Post »THIS GENERATION
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:07amwhat does Larry Doyle knows. he is too busy sucking hatred from Satan. Doyle sucks.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:15am“Jesus Eaters”, eh? How intentionally asinine, which makes it insulting. So, no, it’s not “OK”. Did you really need to ask?
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:11pmKeep “cranking” this stuff out Larry….I love it and your so called “ratings” will suffer. At least it’s very easy to see who is of God and who is not. Thanks…
BTW, in years past I always wondered what Jesus meant when he said “you will know a follower if you ask him if Jesus Christ is the Lord and savior…” I figured most people would simply lie and how would we know for sure. Thanks Larry, for making it very clear and thank you Jesus for opening my eyes every day.
Report Post »riaf-decnalab
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:19pmIn Jesus’ own words read John 6:66 (this is the same John that wrote the Bokk of Revelation) and read what leads up to Him saying this and also look for the reaction of the disciples that stay with Him.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:30pmIf you weren‘t so ignorant of your own Christian history you’d know why he used the term.
rose-ellen
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:41pmI’m a catholic and i have no problem people making fun of catholicism.As Paul said-either Christ rose from the dead or we’re the biggest fools going.What we believe as catholics IS ludicrous on its face including our sacrament of communion.We are called to be spiritual people perched more lightly on the world .As a monk said; truely the poorest people on earth are those who do not understand what it means to give oneself to Christ..let them live their prosaic lives;let them be guided by traffic lights.they have never been able to see Him who sends out the light as it goes forth or hear Him who says-if you thirst come to me.We’re called as christians to be foolish in the eyes of the world but wise in Christ.petty indignation over being mockedputs us on par with political ethnic squabbles and takes away our call to be humble and spiritual.
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:42pmHow many here are fasting an praying for his conversion?
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:56pmI am very angry.
All Christians eat and drink the body and blood of Christ. If these people want to go to war with Catholics just remember that in America most Catholics are armed or can get armed very quickly. This is not Egypt or a Moslem nation.
Report Post »ConservativeCanucklehead
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:58pmBut … they are “Jesus eaters”.
Report Post »And they do “drink His blood”. Just ask them.
To be Catholic means to be of a particular sort of Christian, with unique doctrines and rituals that are distinct from those of other sorts Christians.
Transsubstantiation is one of the uniquely Catholic beliefs. As such it is entirely appropriate to identify adherents as “Jesus eaters”. One might also fairly call them “drinkers of the Lord’s blood” (but that’s rather lengthy), or “Papists”, as these too denote unique aspects of their theology. Just as those Christians who believe that water baptism is an essential of their particular faith might fairly be called “baptists”; and those whose theology is unique for its confidence in the Book of Mormon might reasonably be called “Mormons” or maybe “Mornonites”.
Seems pretty simple really.
teamarcheson
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:59pmWill they ever say that the Koran is nothing more than Satanic Verses. Moslems worship the devil and violate the Commandments of God. God told them not to eat pork and not to Kill but they kill even their own. Moslems have become a threat to the Earth.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:40pm@ConservativeCanucklehead…I don’t know if your post was meant to be offensive but as a proud Catholic, you’re right. Technically.
We eat His body and drink His blood because that’s_what_he_said. I know there are “christians” out there who when Jesus said this, would have stood up and walked out at the ludicrous statement or asked Him to clarify the comment. Not me. I know this writer called us “Jesus Eaters” to be offensive and like many so called former Catholics, they think that because they were once an altar boy they know everything there is to know about the faith. Personally, though, I’m glad people know that yes, Catholics believe we eat His flesh and drink His blood. Many Catholics don’t even know that.
Report Post »grandmasterkwan
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:45pmLibs have taken name calling to a new level… I‘m pretty sure if they couldn’t name call they would go mute… what a pos!
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:54pmWhat Doyle says and thinks, with inflammatory language, negates any truth, he thinks he is telling.
Report Post »I am not a Roman Catholic simply because of Mariology. The RC Church teaches in it’s Catechism, that Mary was not only a virgin before the birth of Christ, but maintained it afterwards, and claim, Jesus had no brothers through Mary. Scripture of course ,does not say this. The biggest problem I have though,is that the RC church claims Mary NEVER sinned, and did not have Original sin. This of course goes against what Scripture says. That ALL have sinned,and fall short of the glory of God. I know their mariology teaching saying she was an exception to this.I have asked RC Priests and followers of the RC church teaching to explain the following to me. In Luke Ch1 V 47 Mary is quoted as saying the following: And my spirit hath rejoiced in God, my Saviour. My question is this: IF Mary does not bear Original Sin, and was sinless throughout her life ,WHY does she call the Lord her saviour.? Obviously, IF she was sinless, she had no need of Salvation.
As it says in Isaiah: Let us reason together saith the Lord. Any comments from Catholics, to explain this would be welcome. I might add, I have talked to priests. The answer I get is. IT is Church Tradition,and Teaching.,so don’t use that, since we know what Christ himself said to the Pharisees,and Saducees re the Traditions of Men. I take no delight in sharing this, but we are called to speak the truth.
Maranatha
abbygirl1994
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:04pmI hate it when you evil mindedlefties come on here and pout your mistruths. Obviously Huffpo infiltraters or OWS.. in any case confused misguided individuals, who would know the truth if it hit them smack in the face. Truly I have pity for you!! God forgive you in your ignorance!
Report Post »USACommoner
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:24pmFLRICK: I got such a chuckle at the word they chose to censor from your post and left the rest out there! Too funny! Now go say ten Hail Marys, five Our Fathers, and wash your mouth out with soap.
Report Post »BarackStalin
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:45pmDon’t forget that my God ordered Joshua to slit the throats of 450 priests of Baal because they worshiping a different god and leading the people astray.
Do you really want us to take the gloves off?
Report Post »XScramblerX
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:46pmThe article seems to ask if it is OK to call Catholics “Jesus Eaters”.
As a Catholic I don’t take offense to it. In some symbolic way it’s true.
Is it then OK to call Leftists “Baby Killers”?
After reading this……I think they love killing….they just love it.
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Ruler4You
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:47pmLook, when this kind of (literally) insane slap back is the tone of the ‘discourse’ with communists you know you have reached the point at which all credibility vanishes. And potentially, all future discourse. As you come to realize that insanity HAS, finally, over taken the slimmest tenuous margin on reality or rationality remaining to them (communists) in discourse, it must be accepted the only avenue open to either side is to completely disregard their insane ramblings as the mental disorder that it “IS”.
After that, making legislative remedy to get them aid, in a padded room behind a cage wall. Possibly, they could be habilitated back to a useful social purpose. But not in the public political arena.
Report Post »linderman
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:04pm@Hollywood; I humbly suggest Christ was Mary’s savior because He rose from the dead putting an end to eternal death, promising eternal life for all who follow Him.
Report Post »AG1776
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:08pm@Hollywood You see only what you want to. If you read Luke 1:48-49, it says “for he has looked upon his handmaid’s lowliness … the Mighty One has done great things for me.” Also, Luke 1:28 says “Hail, favored one! The Lord is with you.”
Mary was sinless because she was filled with God’s grace, a gift from God. Just like you or I or the saints may be gifted with grace if we are lucky enough. Mary was different in that she was so entirely full of grace, that she was sinless. So she did need God. He made her sinless. And there is nothing in the Bible which states that Mary had other children. In fact, Jesus entrusted John, the beloved disciple, with her care while he was on the Cross. In those days, one would only do that if one had no siblings to take care of one’s widowed mother. Before you cite to passages which talk about Jesus’ “brothers” asking for him in a verse in the Bible, let me tell you that the Greek word used in those passages means “cousins”, not literal siblings.
RCs follow Church tradition as well as Scripture. My question for you or others who proclaim Sola Scriptura (and who thereby disregard tradition) is this: read John 6:53-56. Then tell me how the Eucharist and the Wine are not Jesus’ body and blood. If you follow the Bible, then do so. Are you receiving his body and blood as he told you to? In John 6, many disciples left Jesus because they could not understand what he was asking them to do. Rather than trust him, they doubted.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:11pmi say kill the basta-ds just like muslims do. jeez wouldn‘t that be pathetic someone killing someone because they didn’t agree with their religion. oh, wait , sorry, that’s what muslims do.
Report Post »cosette
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:21pmI have never seen a more angry more hateful group of lost souls than homosexuals. I understand they have separated themselves from God and that is upsetting. But they are able to experience redemption and salvation. I have lesbian friends who I love and pray for daily. They are accepting of me and my Christianity and do not judge me either. I try to be an example to them. God will judge each of us Why then are there so many hateful angry homosexuals out there.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:31pmThis is another part of their tactic to bring world communism to all of us: attack religion, religious people, belief in God.
Under communism: Believing in God is considered a sickness to be cured (one way or the other)
Report Post »and religion is illegal.
Jinglebob
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:51pmIn endless amusment I watch the unbelivers flop around in their endless stupidpitty talking about their lack of knowledge on relegion. christ broke bread at the last Supper as a token of rememberence in his coming broken body. The fruit of the vine was in rememberence of his future shed blood. I do have to smile at the use of waffers. I guess stale waffers are easy to handle. Even unleven bread is not correct. Christ was breaking bread during passover, the only bread available was unleven. Christ said, “bread of your kind,” should be used. Even a French loaf could be passed around and small bits torn from it if that was the desire.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:20pmDoyle’s just being an idiot.
Report Post »At the last supper Christ broke from the traditional passover/pasach celebration and offered bread and wine to his disciples saying…“eat for this is my body”. It was the first communion, the first gathering of an infant church. His body is the church by eating the bread/wafer you are part of that body. “Drink for this is my blood that I shed for you”. Christ was about to undergo 72 hours of torture and humiliation leading to his death on the cross. His blood was to be shed for the forgivness of our sins..even for men like Doyle. This of course breaks from Jewish law because in Jewish law, only God can forgive sins and Jews don’t accept Christ as the son of God. Christ said this would be so. So drinking his blood through consecrated wine (in Christian Orthodoxy the whole congregation drinks the wine, unlike Catholicism) is the acceptance of his sacrifice to forgive our sins. The most profound event in Christianity, an utterly selfless act of sacrifce to save mankind, Doyle reduces to a highschool level “yuck yuck”. He’s an idiot.
Locked
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:39pm@Avengerk
Just an FYI on two points.
1. Rose-Ellen was obviously responding to @Teamarcheson, who claimed Catholics were being attacked in Egypt (which is false). You can try and spin it another way, but no one else mentioned Egypt in the entire article.
2. On the subject of Catholicism (which is the topic at hand, not Christianity as a whole), over 20% of San Francisco is Catholic. It’s pretty unlikely that anyone selling plates at a fundraiser there is going to purposely malign one of the largest religious groups in their area.
Also, one more note. When you change the wording from “Catholicism” to “Christianity,” you’re also setting up a strawman argument. For example, this entire article is about Catholicism (as was Rose-Ellen‘s and Teamarcheson’s comments). Despite Beck’s plea that “we all are Catholics,” not respecting the differences between Christian denominations denigrates them. You don’t seem to recognize this, so I thought I should point it out :-)
Report Post »tommy2sweet
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:41pmTo bad Doyle is not in Pennsylvania, maybe a Muslim would strangle him! ’cause it’s OK for them to retaliate but not Catholics.
Report Post »DesertRose1960
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:21amIt was satire, folks. It wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. It‘s sort of like Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal”. He didn’t really think that eating Irish babies was the cure for English hunger or Irish poverty. I’m a Catholic, I’m not outraged. It’s a fart joke, it stinks but it will blow over.
db321
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:37amYea the Germans told the Jews that similar persecution was satire. If you are Catholic, Christian or Jew, you can say it is over blown and call it Satire if this makes you feel better – just remember, God’s watching! I personally, am taking this a threat and I will fight for my God with my last dying breath – then I’ll enjoy eternity.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:40amImagine if a Conservative “funny man” wrote a piece like this? It WOULD be front page news for weeks!!! A fart joke is in a cartoon NOT in as a bigotted slanderous “journalistic piece”!
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:43amRose
Report Post »Yeah …You here the one about all the left wing outlets , Muslim groups,
bama’s ilk getting their panties in a bunch and firing and reprimanding
their subordinates for not getting in lockstep with
PC -Muslim-Sympathizing-most-favored-religion ..!
Go sharpen your sword…!
13th Imam
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:45amNo rose, they either Early term Abortion them, or Mid term Abortion them , or Late Term Abortion them, or POST BIRTH MURDER THEM. But they do not eat them. The fart joke is president , and the deep Pile of crap is the DEMOCRAT members of congress. And you are NO Catholic
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:53amThere are some things that are to SACRED to joke about & this is at the top of my list!!!. I excuse peoples ignorance of the Eucharist if they only knew how offensive it truly is to believers. I would equate it with moking Jesus as He hung on the cross.SAD!!
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:54amYou are a “Catholic” ?…like Pelosi ??… You mean “Obamalic”..!
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:02amYou should become a writer for Barry. he needs people who know how to apologize for stupidity!
Report Post »Uncle Tom
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:30amWell, Catholics do believe that the Eucharist literally becomes Christ’s body and blood after the priest does…well, whatever he does (magic words, holy water, etc.)…right? So, technically, while intentionally offensive and vulgar, the guy isn’t exactly wrong.
rpp
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:42amLike Doyle, DesertRose1960 is also an anti-Catholic bigot. The proof of this is her defense of Doyle by Citing the profoundly offensive and bigoted attack on the Irish by the famed and noted anti-Catholic bigot Swift.
Report Post »tamara13
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:44amWhen someone in the public eye makes disparaging comments against any group of people especially someone who writes for the younger crowd, it can make his/her comments mainstream rather quickly. Why? Because you are dealing with people that are younger, immature and more impressionable. That type of sickness spreads. It also validates those on the far left who relish in hate speach to help further the Obama Administration’s agenda against the Catholic Church.
I bet Mr. Doyle was probably rewarded handsomely by the Obama Administration as well as the Huffington Post for publishing the comments.
Report Post »TPEwok
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:48amThat’s not the point. Were this a non-Western religion, HuffoPo would never let the exact same “satire” be posted on its site.
It’s the hypocrisy peopel are reacting to as much as the remarks themselves.
Report Post »Psytoxic
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:52amIn another article I read about this story they quoted Doyle as also saying:
“I hope (Catholics who are offended) will now think twice before they question the faith of progressive Christians, or Mormons or Muslims. I doubt they will.”
It was this comment that actually got me thinking from his perspective. I have often seen my beliefs, which I hold sacred, cast in the same light that Doyle used for Catholicism in his satire except it came from Catholics and “mainstream” Christians.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:42pm@Psytoxic
“It was this comment that actually got me thinking from his perspective. I have often seen my beliefs, which I hold sacred, cast in the same light that Doyle used for Catholicism in his satire except it came from Catholics and “mainstream” Christians.”
I very much agree. Disrespectful? For sure. But it was so over-the-top (and as it was coming from the comedy section) it was pretty obvious it was satire. But Mormons have to deal with it all the time (magic underwear, anyone?) and the people making such comments aren’t trying to be satirical; they’re trying to be insulting. Heck, the worst part is half the insults from his article are commonly uttered by people. Insulting priests for celibacy, the Eucharist’s transubstantiation, the pope’s past as a Hitler Youth, and the paedophilia? I’ve seen every one of those said on this site by commentators at some time. That doesn’t even come close to the hatred thrown on Muslims here.
People need to chill out and stop antagonizing others’ religions. It’s the difference between saying “I don’t believe the Eucharist turns into the literal body of Christ“ and ”you’re a cannibal.”
Report Post »tgthompson
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:47pmBilly Graham’s Prayer For Our Nation
Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, ‘Woe to those who call evil good’, but that is exactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery. We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare. We have killed our unborn and called it choice. We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable. We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem. We have abused power and called it politics. We have coveted our neighbor’s possessions and called it ambition. We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression. We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from sin and set us free. Amen!’
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:57pmWould he write similar satire about Allah? If he did, his life will be at risk. I am not easily offended, especially by Catholic jokes and such, but this does offend me. I take Jesus very seriously. It hurts me to hear Him mocked in the sacrament of the Eucharist. I think he was mocked enough before His crucifixion. I’m sure Jesus can handle it since He is God, but it saddens me that such nastiness occurs anyway. Doyle is a very bitter person. I wonder if he is motivated by guilt and jealousy.
Report Post »mcsledge
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:25pmCrack a joke about Islam in the Middle East and see how long you live. Fortunate for Larry, Christians turn the other cheek.
Report Post »Caleb-Texas
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:28pm@tgthompson
AMEN!
Report Post »Zaggynuts
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:29pmIt is truly funny that when liberals write this offensive crap they get away with it by yelling satire. However, when a conservative even mentions views offensive or not it us labeled hate. The fact is this, doyle guy and people that think like him are bigots.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:01pmMoslems are not at war with catholics in egypt.there have been tensions with coptics because coptics collaborated and benefitted in mubareks oppressive regime.Coptics are NOT catholics. They subcribe to the heresy that Jesus ransomed mankind on the cross and the ransom was paid to God the father-the God depicted in the old testament which coptics believe was not a true lover of man but a rathful vengeful God.Jesus is the lover of mankind -not the father of the Old Testament..catholics in egypt are not experiencing problems with moslems in egypt.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:11pmWhen I was growing up I always noticed that the bullies (cowards) always picked on the kids that they thought will not fight back. This is no different. And, I have seen many cases where the bully got his teeth kicked in by “the peacenik”.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:22pmVery good ROSE-ELLEN…sanitize the violence against christians in Egypt by your beloved muslims. Vile little woman.
Report Post »brader24
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:33pmSatire is merely a form of communication meant to send a message. What that message is can vary greatly from innocently poking fun at someone’s quirks, mistakes, etc. to outright vicious attacks on someone’s beliefs. Interpreting someone’s message can be tricky, but sometimes it can be obvious. I think most informed, devout Catholics would see this as being at the vile end of the spectrum. About as mature as a school yard bully making fun of and mocking someone. If others don’t stand up to this kind of immature bullying, then it will only continue and get worse. I say enough is enough. Be the one who stands up to the bully. Claiming satire, is irrelevant.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:59pmTOKYOROSE….Doyle’s spite against christians should be taken very seriously. His playground level “humour” may be inocuous to some, but his intent to devalue Christianity is glaring and real. His twisted hermeneutics betray the typical godless liberal who believes they know all there is to know about the church and christianity yet they actually know very little. I can understand why you want him ignored. His malice towards christians adds to the meme that Obama and his liberal supporters really do have animus towards the church and you need votes this year from those “folks”. They’re “folks” of course when you need their votes of course and “bible thumping, gun totting, bigots” when you’re addressing $3k a plate elites in San Francisco. Meanwhile Obama and the professional left shake every tree for every lefty vote in the country. Nice try.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:20amAnd finally, be prepared, the end IS COMING, and it seems to be coming very fast–great “falling away.” one-World government (George Soros’ “Open Society”), one-World “religion” (Islam? through conquest and birth rate), and “what is up is now called down, and bad is now called good,” and all. . turn to God, through The Word (Jesus) and have the guidance of the Holy Spirit!
MARANATHA!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:27amMARANATHA indeed!!! Please Lord!! Watching some of the silly people take pot shots at the Creator of the Universe is sad albeit amusing. This guy is like seeing someone dancing a jig under a teetering boulder. WE know the boulder is going to fall and crush him, but he is totally unaware.
IF there is ANYONE out there who thinks that the GOD who created everything we have knowledge of and then a zillion times more is a WEAK GOD…You are the guy dancing under the boulder.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:39amIf we can see and be sickened by the increasing deparavity of humanity God who sees all and knows all sees it with more clarity than we do.
Report Post »None of us knows the hour but the Bible tells me that the end time is approaching at a rapid rate.
rose-ellen
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:35pmmary is the arc of the new covenant-who is jesus.just like the arc of the old covenent[the holie of holieswhich contained the ten commandments was a sacred undelifed container -the church projected that the arc of the new covenent [mary-where christ dwelt till he was born] was also undefiled and sacred.That is why the church says she remained a virgin and was outside the condition of the rest of mankind and did not inherit the stain of original sin.asa special gift God gave to her .She did not know she was conceived without the stain of sin .She could have sinned because she as a human had free will but we believe she didn’t as that would be consistent with her status as being holy [the arc of the new covenent].In her humbleness she would not claim to have never sinned.She partakes in the falleness of man in that she suffered and died too,so existentially -as a human she is in need of salvation too [the gift of eternal life after death in heaven].That morally she never sinned is posited because she was free to never sin and she was conceived as a sacred vessel [arc of the covenent].Nothing sugests she sinned but that she was submissive and humble so the church views her as sacred from conception to death; an undefiled arc of the new covenent-who though free to sin chose not to;a perfect arc for our new covenent -jesus christ
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:49pmI did not defend the comments. i said i don’t care.There is a difference.i docare whenanti-muslim bigotryis spewed-because we are dropping bombs on men women and children and occupying muslim lands now.There is a genocidal anti semitic[against muslimarabs this time] movement afoot here in america[fox] and in europe. That is why the anti muslim bigotry disturmbs me.They mean it.The great oone holy catholic and apostolic church is a gift from god himself [jesus christ].it is secure and i have no fear about some silly anti catholic jokes made against catholics. I’m a catholic-i’m not thin skinned.We havn’t survived persecutions,the reformation,and secular democracies by being thin skinned.let the ignoramuses have their fun.Eating Christ sounds ludicrous -we don’t cast our pearls to swine.;let it go.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:08pmWhat is funny about ROSE ELLEN is she THINKS she gets it, but when she utters the words JESUS CHRIST (IN LOWER CASE of course) she sounds like she is cursing. JUST because this simple, silly little woman can’t get the DEVINE PLAN of our GOD, she dares to ridicule it?
YOU are a test to pray for Rose Ellen….. a real test.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:19amThose of the Huff Post who endorse these kind of attacks, and those who do not say anything about them have to understand – they will be held to account before the Almighty. These attacks are just one more vicious cycle the left propaganda machinery continues to produce.
Now in the part of calling people of faith “Jesus-eaters” that refers to cannibalism; and anyone who is even partly familiar with the four gospels sees the Sanhedrian council of old Israel accused Jesus of the same thing.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:25amYes, Snow — people/evil/satan’s demonic strategies never change, do they??
Report Post »Thun
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:16pmYou are among my favorites out here Snow, may God Bless You! From a Catholic Perspective, I’d just like to add a few thoughts in regards to John 6:51-58. But before I do, it’s important to realize this took place during Passover as John 4 reveals. We Catholics believe the New Testament is fulfilling the Old Testament here because during Passover in the OT, God stipulated through Moses, you’re going to have to take an unblemished male lamb, slaughter him, sprinkle his blood on your doorpost, roast that lamb and eat that lamb. Now suppose a family did all that but didn’t eat the lamb, what would have happened to that family? They would have woken up the next day and found their first born son dead. It wasn’t enough to kill the lamb, they had to eat the sacrificial lamb. And if Jesus Christ is coming to perfect the OT types which he does, then he really is the Passover lamb. He is slain, his blood is sprinkled but if he is the sacrificial lamb of the new covenant Passover, it isn’t enough for the lamb to die, it isn’t enough for his blood to be shed, we have to eat the lamb. We have to consume sacrifice for communion to be reached.
Report Post »Highland
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:02pmNoted Catholic Nancy Pelosi said she was jiggy with whatever Larry Doyle said.
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:16amWhat, Arianna Huffington make a heartfelt apology? She has no heart and any apology would be empty. Doyle is just the kind of “reporter” that Huffington likes to employ.
Report Post »crystalinwi
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:14amEasy to mock when Catholics are a minority Christian religion in the United States (just over 23% of the over 70% Christian nation), however, worldwide, Roman Catholicism is the largest Christian religion in the world, and Christianity is the largest overall religion in the world. Keep mocking, easy to pick on minority in U.S., but we are majority in world.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:14amAs for this HufPo contributor. . . CONSIDER THE SOURCE!!!
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:10pmExactly. This is pretty much the normal turf for HuffPo.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:12am60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying; who can understand it?”
61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”
66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more. 67 Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?”
68 But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Bible: New King James version
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:12amThe Catholics were mentioned but I take this as an all out attack on Jesus Christ and every Christian everywhere. Evil ( Satan ) only attacks good (Christ ) which is why you never see folks like Doyle or Bill Maher going after Islam ( evil ).
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:25amGood point!
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:08pmcome on-stand on your own two feet-if someone insults catholicism-and you want to call them out on it go head-why do you always have to deflect the issue by lashing out at muslims? Grow a little spine and or character and stop going to your default lowest common denominator position-attacking muslims.Talk about thin skinned hateful hypocrites!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:01pmRoseellen……….yours are the only opinions posted on the Blaze that simply do not matter to me.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:12amIt’s humor! Lighten up.
Besides, not a day goes by without the Blazers calling fellow Americans they disagree with devils, communists, heathen, unpatriotic, so you’re in no position to judge.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:41amwell, comrade…lighten up..you’re to stupid to make any judgements…elitist jerk!!!!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:56amHey Baikonur,
I am assuming that your shoes fit just fine……………
So wear them !
Report Post »SoNick
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:36pm@Therightsofbilly & michael48
Report Post »thank you for proving Baikonur’s point. Looking around the Blaze, I’ve seen hundreds of comments that refer to Muslims as: camel humpers, pedophiles, murderers, maniacs, evil cave dwelling monsters, etc. And you find a joke about that strangest of catholic concepts (transsubstantiation) crosses some kind of line? How do you feel about Mormon magic underwear jokes?
Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:09pm@SONICK
Chill dooooood.
Baiky is a far left communist who thinks that Nancy Pelosi is the warmest & sweetest lady that ever held public office.
He / She also claims to live in Western Europe.
My comment to Baiky had nothing to do with your “joke” or this story in general.
It was directed solely to him, and deservedly so.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:11amJohn 6:53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For My flesh is food indeed,[h] and My blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”
60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying; who can understand it?”
Bible: New King James version
Report Post »Just in time
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:08amHe will be judged by thy Lord God
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:07amVery bad humor but I will let God judge.
Report Post »debrarae
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:04amI am Jewish. And I am disgusted by the left wing bigotry on display in America. And we also have Ron Paul and his bots joining with Occupy Wall street to surround Santorum’s family in NH, and the Anti Semitic _ if you’re a Jew and not saved by Jesus … you control the banks…move your zionist a$$ to Israel: I’ve had enough.
My vote is for Rick Santorum. Based on his VOTING RECORD which can be found (along with all the other candidates) on http://www.ontheissues.org.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:23amGood for you!!!! I hope you have influence with your family and other Jews. I am a Christian and support a few Messianic ministries (& Israel of course) — however, I must apologize for those that have been saying terrible things that if you’re not saved by Jesus, you should leave, etc. Didn‘t know people were saying that but doesn’t surprise me either. Those people aren’t “real” Christians and not practicing what Jesus taught. Too many of them I’m afraid. I, for one, appreciate any legal capitalistic contribution you make to the U.S.! And I’m fine with all the rich people – if it’s theirs legally, more power to them. And, I like Santorum too. Thanks for your vote!!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:42amI am a Christian and a Zionist. I stand with Christ and Israel. DEBRARAE please be assured you have friends and allies in America.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:20pmI’m a chrisitan[catholic] and i stand with the palestinian arabs[many of who are christians going back to the time of jesus.that means their ancestors were jews or mixed with them.The european zionists now in israel have ancestors who are non jews and they have no legitimate moral claim to create a zionist jewish majority state on the backs of the indigenous inhabitents[those there prior to the euopean zionists influx]A 67border solution would be acceptable or a returm to israel of displaced arab palestinians.The racist zionists reject both solutions as they want to rewrite history and have the displaced arabs disapear into other lands so they cna claim they were neveer there.Those pesky arabs insist on their rights -i stand with them against the racist zionist policy of israel.arab palestinians are also christian though i stand with arab palestinians on moral-not religious grounds.
Report Post »MammalOne
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:03amLOL Jesus-eater! I love it.
Report Post »SaraD
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 2:08amDid it occur to anyone Catholics believe communion bread and wine literally turn into Jesus? They even have special pipes leading from the picsina or basin where they wash the vessels to the ground so Jesus doesn’t end up in the sewer.
Report Post »So what??
HumbleCitizen
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:03amAhhh yes, this is an oldie but goodie. Cannibalism was used..say what…2000 years ago. Satan pulled this one out of the mothballs and dusted it off to use against followers of Christ. Soon evil will be declaring that Christians are killing and eating children (also an oldie but goodie from the past to demonize a certain selection of people).
One day all will be rounded up and those that refuse to accept the one world religion, who refuse the mark of the beast, will be put to death. Christians will be the first because satan knows where salvation flows from and the good news of salvation must be (for total evil to succeed) stopped at all costs.
Report Post »Can you feel the heat yet Christians? Can you tell that society is changing and is openly hostile to the Christian faith?
ModerationIsBest
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:37amMuslims are saying the same thing, as are the Jews. Give me a break.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:03amThe blind man say’s….I don’t see a spiritual-war going on at all ..!
Report Post »Cavy2see
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:37pmI see said the blind man…Jesus healed people to help us believe in His works…His Mother cared for Him as all Mother’s do…but mankind has gone off on the road of sorrow…pain…and sin…we all sin…but as a Catholic we see our Lord before us each day in Communion…Body and Blood…just like He is with us each mass…and Adoration of the Host…that is our gift from Him to us…to share…and remember this is not the last stop…our lives continue with Him when we die…to be with Him in Church is a small part of the beautiful things to come in the next world…called Heaven…Peace to all…may we all be with Him when our world’s stay is done…
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:01am.
Yep, Eat the Body of Christ & Drink His Blood everytime the doors open…….
So whats your point?
Report Post »Susycat
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:53amSo Mr. Doyle, you did to Rick Santorum, and all Catholics, what you don’t like others to do to you? Interesting tactic. Ineffective, but interesting.
Report Post »Total Lame Arse
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:52amFunny how these horses asses are so quick to mock other relious practices, then sit in the dirt, smoke a Doobie, and worship a crystal necklace…and that is intellectually acceptable to these microcphalics.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:49amI wouldn’t vote for Santorum for any office but these viscous attacks are outrageous and reprehensible.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:06amThis is an attack on the Catholic church cleverly disguised as an attack on Santorum.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:32amProg Slayer.
Report Post »I hope your view’s against Rick is a political difference and
not because of his comments toward the son of a rum runner… : )
Just kidding …Wake me up when it’s time to pull the lever.
trolltrainer
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:48amJoh 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
Joh 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
It was nothing but a hateful attack. Know it for what it was, and understand that he cannot help himself because he is blinded by Satan.
Report Post »CONSERVAKILLA
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:08pmblah, blah, blah! Screw Satan, and God!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:47amThe long knives are really out for the Catholic church since they dared to disagree with Obama. Liberals are OK with Catholics as long as they quietly go along with the progressive agenda. Step out of line though and the hammer comes down.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:56amExactly. I wonder what group they’ll put in the crosshairs next?
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:13amEric Holder will defend the “contraceptive” mandate but is horribly mute on the death of Brian Terry
Holder helped BlillyClinton pardon Marc Rich. DOJ? What a joke.
OMG 2012
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:15amAs a Catholic, the recent efforts to limit our practice of religion under the 1st Amendment have angered me. But I have also learned a powerful lesson. I will never say harsh words against another Christian faith from this point forward. In a very direct way, Doyle is helping move Catholics away from the Democratic Party.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:34pmI hope you’re right Vet. The Democrat party of JFK is long gone, it’s time to adjust.
Report Post »bastone
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:31pmwe should send money to the catholic church. as much as possilble. God nows they need the money for their legal fees.
Report Post »melthemean
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:48pmMidwestmom – “Exactly. I wonder what group they’ll put in the crosshairs next?”
Report Post »Well, how about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Romney and his Morman faith have been a target for some time, and now that Santorum is moving up in the polls, it‘s the Catholic’s turn.
sndrman
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:46amWOW WOW really? wonder what jeremiah the pastor to our beloved leader thinks about an attack on religion? oh thats right liberals can make fun of JESUS but you better not make fun of other religions…..
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:56amBlack Liberation Theology is fine with that. Endorses it even as white on white violence would be a new holiday in BLT thinkspeak.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:43amI heard Lutherans eat Jesus as well.
Baptists believe Jesus sacrificed himself for their sins.
Still others believe that committing themselves to Christ and being “born again” will save them from hell.
Wow, sounds crazy doesn’t it? or does it?
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:01amI just never understood the blood sacrifice bit…seems kind of barbaric in my opinion.
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:27amits quite barbaric. life is in the blood therefore the signifigance is great. – hey those dems critical of Christian faith are aware that Obama claims that His saviour is Jesus. So, the president believes He will be saved based on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and its atonement for his sins. Are y’all okay with that? That would mean He believes in Jesus. How do you feel about a man who believes that Jesus Christ saved him? Im curious.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:37amBIDDLE…Obama doesn‘t try to ram religion down anyone’s throat like people on the right are inclined to do. Besides…I thought the religious people on the right believe Obama is a Muslim.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:38amI never understood the “eat for this is my flesh…..drink for this is my blood” aspect of christianity either. It is a finite collection of cells that eventually are no more. For the physical, sure it may have some significance, . . . . but could have no bearing on “the spiritual” [for those who believe in the spirit].
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:01pm@LUMBAR
Since you bring up “barbaric”, what is your position on abortion?
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:04pmAbortion is not a religious ritual…it’s a medical procedure.
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:33pmA person who isn‘t spiritual doesn’t accept the things of God’s Spirit, for they are nonsense to him. He can’t understand them because they are spiritually evaluated. 1 Cor 2:14
The message about the cross is nonsense to those who are being destroyed, but it is God’s power to us who are being saved. 1 Cor 1:18
As Moses’ Teachings tell us, blood was used to cleanse almost everything, because if no blood is shed, no sins can be forgiven. Heb 9:22
Under the old system, the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a young cow could cleanse people’s bodies from ceremonial impurity. Just think how much more the blood of Christ will purify our consciences from sinful deeds so that we can worship the living God. For by the power of the eternal Spirit, Christ offered himself to God as a perfect sacrifice for our sins. Hebrews 9:13-14
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:39pmMedical procedure huh?
That’s kind of “sanitizing” it for the sheep, isn’t it?
My how wonderful all these medical advancements are for the sheep these days.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 4:51am@ lumbarspine
It’s very simple, God ask for sacrifices so that humans would feel their sorrow (for sin) or celebration (for newborns, harvest, provision, etc.).
Now, what was the TRUE SACRIFICE? Most think it was killing and offering the remains on the altar. However, the instructions to bring a “blemish free, young male goat or lamb,“ or ”first fruits of of the harvest” were the actual sacrifice in an AGRARIAN SOCIETY! I raise sheep and dogs. For me to remove form my breeding program THE BEST is antithetical to improving my breeding program or production of my crops!
The “sacrifices” of Cain and Able which occurred before instructions given concerning “cereal sacrifices.” Cain’s “sacrifice” of fruits and vegetables did not meet the early instructions from God that a true sacrifice FOR SIN must be a BLOOD SACRIFICE. Hence by God like Able‘s sacrifice of a blemish free lamb from his flock over Cain’s gift from the ground he worked which was bloodless and not as figurative in it’s horrid appearance of the horribleness of sin.
Jesus, the firstborn, blemishless Son of God replaced the animal sacrifices as they could only prefigure the true sacrifice of Jesus giving Himself in payment of the sins of the world. As humanity moved from an agrarian society to more of a town society the understanding of sacrifice became more distant, including buying animals for sacrifice right at the Temple, not a true sacrifice!
Thank you Lord Jesus!
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