Over 2,500 Faith Leaders Sign Letter Asking Obama to Uphold Religious Freedom
- Posted on February 21, 2012 at 9:53am by
Billy Hallowell
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The last problem any candidate needs just months out from a tough presidential campaign season is to find him or herself embroiled in an epic war with people of faith. But in the first two months of 2012, this is exactly what President Barack Obama is facing. As the days progress, the rhetoric against his administration’s contraceptive mandate — particularly among religious leaders and communities — continues to intensify. On Monday, evangelical pastors joined Roman Catholic clergy in an effort to rail against the policy.
During the National Religious Broadcasters convention, an annual event that focuses on faith and media, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins spoke about the mandate. Perkins, among others, objects to the Obama administration’s mandate that all employers — including religious institutions, non-profits and hospitals — cover contraception, Plan B and sterilizations, among other women’s health services (read The Blaze’s extensive coverage of this debate).
During his address, he claimed that more than 2,500 pastors and evangelical leaders have signed a letter to Obama urging him to reconsider the mandate. The letter reads, in part (you read the rest here):
This mandate was not necessary, nor warranted under the provision of “preventive care services for women” contained in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Worse still is the fact that the mandate essentially ignores the conscience rights of many Catholic and Protestant Americans. Our country was founded on certain freedoms, the first of which is the freedom of religion. The ability of a religious person to follow their conscience without fearing government intervention has long been a protected right for Americans. It is unfathomable to picture a country that would deny religious freedoms. [...]
The contraceptive mandate with the requirement that there will be no co-pay to the patient means millions of Americans will incur the additional cost for these drugs and devices. Forcing religious entities to do the same, despite objections of good conscience, is a severe blow to our religious liberty. Thomas Jefferson drafted the Virginia Act for Establishing Religious Freedom in 1779, which passed in 1786, and set the stage for the First Amendment. In it, Jefferson states: “to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves, is sinful and tyrannical.” Consequently, we ask that you would reverse this decision and protect the conscience rights of those who havebiblically-based opposition to funding or providing contraceptives and abortifacients.
LifeSiteNews.com explains the importance of this issue in evangelical circles:
This is not a Catholic issue. This is a religious freedom issue. As a matter of fact, as Catholic Philly reported on February 14, and another recent poll indicated, Evangelicals oppose the contraception mandate more than any other religious group…
Considering that most Protestants and non-Catholic Christians do not stand in opposition to contraception, this support is noteworthy. Of course, Plan B, which is dubbed by some to be an abortion-inducing drug, is seen as potentially problematic by some Protestants.
Tony Perkins
“This is not a Catholic issue,” Perkins reiterated. “We will not tolerate any denomination having their religious freedom impinged upon by the government.”
Others joined Perkins in chastising the Obama administration and pledging to fight the regulation. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, promised to challenge the mandate both in court and in Congress.
“We are not going to stand by and allow our God-given rights, protected by the Constitution, to be atrophied, neutered, confined and restricted,” he said.
Watch Perkins and Land discuss these issues, below:
The spirit of these proclamations is one of religious freedom, regardless of whether one is a Catholic or stands in opposition to birth control. It is this sentiment that has led Glenn Beck to take the same stance. As The Blaze reported yesterday, Beck is seeking to form a collective comprised of people who espouse diverse theological views, but who share a passion and willingness to stand up for religious freedom.
As evidenced through his work, he has long encouraged people of all faiths to stand together — distinct and separate in their beliefs — but united in their support of everyone to practice those ideals without persecution.
Read more about Beck’s trip to Rome over the weekend, where he discussed these issues with Catholic leaders and pledged his support.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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jungle J
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:32amdoes that mean honor killings, dope sharia law, poligamy etc? the religious are so….
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 12:22pmDoes this mean Christian Scientist parents can let their children die rather than allowing them to take an antibiotic? Does this mean that I can pay less taxes because my religion is against war? Does this mean the Catholic Church can force their beliefs on non-Catholics working at a Catholic hospital by making it too costly for them to get contraceptives?
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:05pm@ JZS….still at it I see huh? War is something that is done in defense of the entire nation to preserve the union. Contraceptives however fall into a slightly different category. Also, supporting a military cannot be done individually. Contraceptives however are rather inexpensive to purchase and many free clinics already give free contraceptives. If you live in this country you have no choice but to be a citizen, however, if you feel that strongly about contraceptives and them being provided for you free of charge work for someone else that has no problem with it. There is also such a thing as a conscientious objector that allows one to NOT serve in the military if it defies your conscious. Do you want to do away with that? Since we are comparing things here. We know your answer in that case, don’t we? Also, handing out free contraceptives is not a matter of life and death of a sick child that might die without proper treatment is it? And again free contraceptives are easy to obtain if they are really desired without violating the conscious of religious people. How about allowing an opt out based on matters of conscience like we do in the case of military service? Or are you against both?
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:10pm@ JZS….I have a question for you. What kind of society do you envision as being the most desirable? One where the benevolent state and politicians govern all aspects making us all “equal”? Or do you uphold individual freedom and responsibility? Or maybe one with no religion in it at all? I would just like to hear you describe the society you dream of and government’s role in it.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:46pmJZS
Too costly?
When a drug is invented that will remove all liberal tendencies from our species, I will expect the government to mandate that they are made available for free, to all.
As a “Health issue” of course.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:50pmJust for the record the government has no business telling employers what they must or must not pay for in regard to health coverage. But I simply stooped to your level for the purposes of exposing hypocrisy in your own reasoning.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:27pmOther Hand says, “War is something that is done in defense of the entire nation to preserve the union.” Certainly WWII did. What about the Vietnam War? Was that fought to preserve the union? You may remember, 50,000 dead, billions spent, and in the end, the communists took over anyway. That war had nothing to do with “preserving the union.” Nor did the Iraq war. The Korean war was about preserving the union either. You’re talking about the Civil War and WWII I guess. Your premise is false.
Free clinics that give away contraceptives? You mean Planned Parenthood? You mean the ones that conservatives are determined to close? Who supports these free clinics? Tax dollars in part? And, of course, if the new wave of laws that define a person being born at the moment of conception, that will outlaw hormonal birth control and IUDs, since those methods don’t prevent conception.
“Also, handing out free contraceptives is not a matter of life and death of a sick child that might die without proper treatment is it?” If you mean with respect to this false application of the First Amendment, yes, it is the same.
Actually, you should read about Employment Division v. Smith. In the majority decision, conservative, Catholic Justice Scalia wrote, ““To permit this (read the case) would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself…”
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:51pmJZS
Since you were still misrepresenting the book that I suggested you read as being authored by someone other than the correct author, here is a direct link to the authors site.
If you can’t afford it right now, I understand, but if you click on the links to his other published articles, you can learn much. Fascinating reading.
http://www.libertymind.com/
As you can see, it is not written by the person you claimed, in hopes of dis-crediting my post.
Report Post »amos-moses
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 5:17pm@BLAZERS
IGNORE JZS!
High jacking the conversation, not honest dialogue, is his goal! He is taking advantage of those conversing with honest intent and has been 100% successful at sidetracking the debate!
Offering information, correcting false premises, and debunking blatant lies are a waste of time and only keep us off track and on the defensive. Will we keep letting him shape and sidetrack the debate or leave him alone to squabble? Don’t allow your good intentions to aide him in high jacking these posts. The debate is lead further off track with each post aimed at correcting misinformation.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:52pmjzs
Nah man…it means that when you go to work at the Church, you get to see the benefits package and you have the right to refuse the job or accept the job, based on what you want.
Most people understand the basics…so I thought.
Anyhoo if a woman gets hired by the Church they know what they bought into…and if later she wants to go to planned (baby killers) parenthood she can go, get it? Prob not.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:26amI don’t understand the statement about asking Obama. Just tell him to get lost. It’s none of his business. Whatever Obama says doesn’t concern me. I quit listening to him about 3 years ago.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:44amme too I actually cannot stand listening to him. the second he opens his mouth I tune out.
Report Post »TheSoulSurvivor
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:20amNovember is just around the corner and we get to have our say. Hopefully there are enough of us to make a change for the better. Keep praying for our nation, God Bless you all…
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:13amWith so much of Obamacare still a mystery I have to wonder why this particular mandate was made public now. The minions at the White House had to realize the controversy and anger it would bring about.
Report Post »There is an election in a few short months. Why stir up this particilar pot now? Why is Obama still happy like he has no care in the world? What does he know that we don’t?
hi
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:21amI know. You’d think he would keep it under wraps until elected again….by the Catholics, not get them angry!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:25amReligious leader need to be more direct and tell Obama where the bus stops and CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS STARTS.
He may bow to foriegn leader but American don’t bow to him
We don‘t ask Obama to up hold religious freedom We tell him that he’s violating the establishment clause and that is an impeachable offense.
Report Post »dcwike
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 8:24pmI actually SENSE something is “cooking” and hope to hell it’s just my over-active imagination.
I mean, who’s behind this OWS and why are they only cracking down now, after they started their illegal tent cities months ago? Look what’s happening! Riots, killing, rape. Will the OWS be there in November to disrupt the voting process to the point where the great O calls Martial Law so he can take over the country?
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:28pmI’m beginning to think we are being used as pawns to stir up the madness. We keep saying “vote him out in November”. But……what if Obama and the administration keep forcing this nonsense on us for the next 6 months? What if people get sick of the daily barrage of liberties continuously being usurped? What if people start thinking the election will be so rigged and they are so disappointed with the administration as well as the do-nothing Congress? What will happen when Occupy goes into full advance mode in late summer and fall? I think they are trying to set Conservatives up to clash with the Occupiers, et al, to declare martial law.
Keep clear heads, my friends. It’s going to be an ugly year. Stay safe!
Report Post »TheSoulSurvivor
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:11amI am glad to see the Southern Baptists finally chimed in on this. As an SBC pastor I have been standing against the presidents actions since day one. I was wandering where my denomination was and when they would show up. Our president is violating the word of God and our constitution’s first amendment. It is time for all Christians to stand together, our Lord died for us, we should stand and be counted for Him.
Report Post »Danthebugman
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:21pmPastor friend……kudos to you. I have been a Christian for 49 years. I never thought the day would come. We are here though. It’s time to stand up for what is right and against what is wrong……tyranny.
I have said often, that the Rapture of the church would usher this President into a certain 2nd term. If we don’t take a stand, it may happen without it! Godspeed.
Report Post »marthasusan40
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:06amOnce again, there are 545 Americans who are responsible for running our government…..There are 311 Million Americans who live her and who should vote…..We must remind the American people who are truly in charge.
Report Post »DR.POP
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:06amThat is like a kid “asking: a bully to stop beating him up.
Report Post »Ron Staiger
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:00amThat’s like asking Hitler to eat kosher.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:55am“This is not a Catholic issue. This is a religious freedom issue.”
This is not a religious freedom issue. This is a political issue preying on the fear among the religious that their freedom is being taken away. Call it what it is: an attempt to derail Obamacare by bloating it with loopholes and exceptions to then argue it needs to be scrapped.
Now, if you agree with that plan, that’s another topic entirely. But dressing it up as religious freedom? Duplicitous at best, heresy at worst.
Report Post »bobbyjoe
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:17amNo Obama already filled it full of “loopholes and exceptions” for his buddies. This is about “hanging together or hanging separately”
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:25am@Bobbyjoe
“No Obama already filled it full of “loopholes and exceptions” for his buddies. This is about “hanging together or hanging separately.””
And some of the loopholes include
1. Churches and houses of worship are exempt
2. Religiously affiliated institutions do not need to directly pay the costs of procedures they find contrary to their faith. They cannot, however, deny insurance to their employees; and that insurance may contain these provisions.
At this point, it’s only on the employees to decide how to use their pay and benefits. Just because insurance covers birth control does not mean employees are forced to use it; but if they want it, it’s an option for them now. If it‘s the behavior that’s objectionable, then have the organization become a private institution, pay taxes, and create a rule that bans anyone on birth control from working there.
Report Post »bobbyjoe
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:46am“At this point, it’s only on the employees to decide how to use their pay and benefits.”
They can use their own pay for what ever they want. Their benefits come from the employer who pays for them (or a large part) An employer should not have to provide something he feels is morally objectionable. If employees don‘t like what’s offered they are free to work somewhere else.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:21pm@Bobbyjoe
“They can use their own pay for what ever they want. Their benefits come from the employer who pays for them (or a large part).”
Their pay also comes from the employer who pays for them. An insurance company is paid, but the benefits come from that company, not the employee.
“An employer should not have to provide something he feels is morally objectionable.”
Tell me what Christian religion (outside perhaps Christian Scientists) finds medical insurance morally objectionable? What is done with that insurance is on the employee, not the employer.
Report Post »Tom K
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:41amWait Just A Dang Minute: We don’t ASK our President / Employee – - We TELL him he WILL uphold our Religious Freedom and support, protect and defend the Constitution of the U.S.A. AND if the present “ occupier ” of OUR White House continues to neglect his SWORD DUTY, we WILL fire him on or before Nov. 6, 2012. It is past time to STOP playing patty-cake with these jerks !
Report Post »ResearchPlease
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:56amDitto! Tom K. Thank you for reminding Americans that they are Americans which means “elected” officials, not bowing to the one who has ordained himself king. The waters are moving in the direction that Obama will move to the UN to finish the shattering of our people. It won‘t last long thanks to God’s mercy, but it will be painful.
The view is also showing that Beck will be offered the seat of presidency. Yes, I know this sounds extreme, but it’s in the cards.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:22pmWere we to have an honest election, Obama would be handily defeated by any of the 4 Republican nominees. But the minions are being activated via community organizing and Occupy crowd. Either through that or some other source, you can be sure Obama will be re-elected. I hope I’m wrong but am rather sure that I am not.
God, please bless America once again. You are our only hope!
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:40amThis current controversy is not going to be an end around the current affordable healthcare law that everyone opposes. To concoct a phony religious rights argument to overturn a law that never should have been passed in the first place is a moral wrong in itself. It trivializes and politicizes religious beliefs. It is reprehensible.
There is no mandate. Catholics are not being complelled to do anything that they are not already curently doing.
As soon as the American Catholic Bishops come out in support of immigration right or workers rights you bandwagon keys will disappear.
Report Post »Paladin
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:45amYou got that right MBE. Right on.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:01am100% right. People should be free to disagree with Obamacare (especially how it will raise costs on all of us); but to carry on this issue claiming it is about “religious freedom” is using people’s fear for their religion for purely political reasons. There are three reasons for this argument:
1. The Catholic Church is tired of being portrayed as sexual abusers, and have immediately jumped into the sympathetic victim role.
Report Post »2. The effort of conservative politicians hope to overthrow Obamacare by bloating it with loopholes (ie: Christian Scientists don’t believe in any medical care. Do we now say that a CS-owned business unrelated to worship can choose to keep their employees uninsured?). These loopholes will increase costs (again, to be paid by us, the taxpayers), and hopefully will gain support to overthrow Obamacare.
3. The conservative Protestant denominations and politicians both are hoping this can be used as an anti-Obama slogan in 2012. Chanting “we demand religious freedom!“ is a lot more persuasive than ”we demand women cannot have their reproductive health services covered by insurance companies!”
noblest1
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:36amI must say that by reading most of these posts I can see how very Christ like you good folk are attempting to act. Now I know this will mostly fall on deaf ears,….but It’s this hate filled “my view of Christ is the only one that counts” ideals that are turning soooo many people away from your holier than tho houses and websites of worship. It Is a belief of many that the body of Christ dwells in all of us….from reading a lot of these hate filled posts I think many of you most have vomited Christ out of you. Our founding fathers ran from England to escape the very controling “we are the ones to know the truth and you must follow it” views that you are posting here!!!! For shame! And if you don’t respect the man at least be adult enough to respect the office. But I guess for you haters and fakers it‘s easier to wear your lil’tinfoil hats and hide in the corner throwing your misguided bible bricks!!
Report Post »JRook
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:46amWell said and right on the money. But hey “we are all Catholics now” is just the latest GB marketing ploy. Where there is a controversy he will exploit it, where there isn’t one he will create one. The angry mob is a hungry group and feeding them is good business.
Report Post »Paladin
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:46amYes!!!
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:03amJRook
Report Post »You carrying obamas water
hi
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:20amBut Obama is the one saying “he knows what is best” and is forcing Catholics to go against their beliefs and provide the abortion pill.
Report Post »Whenever you vote for man to run your life, it never goes well. Vote for freedom to run your own life.
whatsupdoc
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:35amWhy is anyone asking Obama anything regarding religion? The Constitution is the authority in the United States NOT Obama or any other politician. “We The People” do not need government approval for what is our rights under the Constitution. Lest we forget…“We The People” and natural law came before and supersedes government law.
Report Post »revron
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:33amWhere is T.D. Jakes in all this? This is going to test the loyalties of African-Americans in the Christian community .Am I loyal to my natural heritage and stand with Obama? Or am I a citizen of the Kingdom of God and stand of His Word? These are mutually exclusive positions.
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:30amAre you the false prophet Mr. Obama? You planted yourself in the house of God & distorted everything God stands for!!!!!!!!!!!.
Report Post »noblest1
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 12:24pmWHAT! the White House is the peoples house. it is NOT and NEVER was a house of worship! PLEASE stop mixing the two.And who are you to judge WHO? I don’t know why I was punished so by finding this site. I normally wouldn’t waste my time wrestling with pigs, cause I just end up getting your mud (read- stupid) all over me. but I just couldnt stop. You hate-filled nasty non Christ like people are the very reason organized religion is losing members faster than the republican congress approval numbers are dropping!! You arent the only ones! There is room at the table for all religions!!
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 5:50pmWhat the White House is the peoples house?? Tell that to Mr. Obama who is trying to control religious institutions. I’ll dumb down ALOT & try to explain this to you (unless you have to go & protest somewhere?). Mr.Obama calls himself a christian but distorts & preverts chrisitanity!!!!!!. If your so frustrated with my comments than bye, bye !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your calling people (or me) a pig?? What are you in first grade????????????????. I think I hear your mommy calling you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Report Post »Tigress1
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:25amNews Update: A priest, a rabbi and pro-lifers were arrested for praying outside the White House:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/catholic-priest-pro-life-activists-arrested-outside-white-house-protesting
The irony is that apparently protesters are not allowed to stand in place, therefore, when the protesters kneeled to pray they were arrested, but the Occupiers who have LIVING there have not been arrested!
Report Post »Tigress1
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:32amI take it back, a rabbi wasn’t included in the arrests, but a Catholic priest and other pro-lifers were arrested. Here’s another link to the same story:
http://www.jillstanek.com/2012/02/priests-for-life-official-pro-life-leaders-arrested-at-wh-for-protesting-contraceptive-mandate/
Report Post »freedom4ever
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:07amthanks for posting this link – read it and comments. found it very interesting! thanks again hope others read it.
Report Post »JBaer
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:19amThanks for the link.
Report Post »911Patriot
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:23amI concur that the religious leaders need to say to him in unison. We will not comply. They do not need his permission to protect religious liberty.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:12amnever forget what obama believes, what he himself SAID —- AMERICA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:22pmAmerica isn’t a Christian nation in government, law, or mandated faith. How are you defining it as a Christian nation? That Christianity is the majority faith? Does that mean if that faith changes it won’t be?
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:11amobama is a rabid godless animal who still holds on to his childhood islam fantasies and the deluded psychotic dreams of his anti-colonial anti-white communist african father — he sees himself as a god like Hitler did and he is so malignant sociopathic he feels he must far surpass anything Hitler did… that’s what soros saw in obama. obama needs to feel that power of destroying an entire nation of faith as well as he wants to go down in history as bigger than hitler– as the dictator who murdered AMERICA.
Report Post »mr molotov cocktail
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:14amthose christians are reprobates…they left religion got into the secular world pay up or go back to the religious part of religion and state out of business~
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:18amdo you think Obama’s white 1/2 is controlled by his black 1/2 ? a black Hitler? lol……..
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:09amno one is being coerced to take birth control- it’s all about access and choice free of religious oppression
Report Post »bobbyjoe
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:22amNo, They are requiring us to pay for someones “treatment” that we find morally objectionable.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:25amWho has hindered anyone’s access to birth control? It was available yesterday, it is available today and it will be available tomorrow, with or without Obamacare mandates. If a woman wants to work for a company with an insurance policy that covers it, she should get a job with a company that offers it. Let the free market work. If the Catholic hospital system suddenly has a dearth of talented female employees, it would be up to them to adjust.
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:29ambj= explain to me how you are forced to pay
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:34amgonz- it‘ not a free market if it’s not available
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:43amIt’s available at every drug store in America Steelhead! Access is NOT a valid argument.
Report Post »bobbyjoe
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:43amsteel… if we pay for the insurance that pays for it, we are paying for it. and yes gonzo is right where is it that you can’t get these services, they are available fool.
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:53amhairy noggin- it‘s not a free market if it’s not made available and yes the RX is where you can get it. BJ if you pay insurance premiums at all the insurance companies I can see your point
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:06amEach woman has the ability to decide where she wants to work, that’s the free market. If insurance coverage for contraceptives is THE most important thing to her, then maybe she should not work for a Catholic institution Steelhead. Is somebody pointing a gun at all these women to make them work there?
Report Post »rox
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:14amI don’t want to pay for YOUR anything. I don’t care what it is. YOU pay for it if you want it so bad.
Report Post »I don’t need a reason.
Steelhead
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:17amno gonzo the gun is held by the church when they block services to Catholics and non-Catholics
Report Post »freedom4ever
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:23amWhen I started working I had to pay for the pill if I wanted it. Many years later the company decided to pay for it as part as our union contract. It’s a choice that you as a person make if you want it and a choice if your company wants to pay for it. It’s NOT a government choice! It’s a choice that I made NOT my government or company – mine only! No company should be made to pay for the pill, day after pill or abortion. If you want it then pay for it yourself unless your company will cover it – goes back to choice again – by you and who you work for.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:44amSteelhead, I don’t think you even belive that, those women are working for a Catholic institution right now and they don‘t have insurance for birth control and they didn’t when they took the job. Nobody is trying to take anything away from anybody and you know that.
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 12:12pmhairy- when you deny services you deny access and you can’t deny that women regardless of faith use all these services that are currently legal
Report Post »SEPARATENOW
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:01amAs I’ve said for over 5 years, it’s time for a new country. We must separate now from these people before they invite invasion, kill or imprison us all.
Report Post »Paladin
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:52amRead about the American civil war and quit talking nonsense. It was bloody, nasty and will be fough in your own living room..not just on tv. Your thinking is warped. People have to work things out and be grownups and realize we can’t always have our own way and we are not always right.
Report Post »mildot rider
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:00amThe Anti-Christ won’t get the letter……..he’s on vacation.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 9:57amObama has no control over religion nor does he have the ability to force religion to bend to his will.
Report Post »Religious leader need to be more direct and tell Obama where the bus stops and CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS STARTS.
He may bow to foriegn leader but American don’t bow to him.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 9:57amWe need to all stand togeather for religious freedom, consiencious freedom and the freedom and liberties of this nation from radicals like Obama; I just still wonder when he will up the ante and order force of the gun to be employed – probably just before the elections via the unions and Occupy bands.
Report Post »lynnissmart
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:16amAs usual Snowleopard, you are correct….OMG
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:21ambetter crawl back in your bunker and hide the end game has started. lol
Report Post »SEPARATENOW
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 9:55amGood luck getting a dedicated neo-comm to buckle even in an election year. If he wins, this all returns and gets amplified regardless.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:03amWith this administration, this will serve to better secure the jobs of 2500 IRS agents and accountants. Brave stand, but this is what you guys can expect.
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