‘Pagan Pride Day’: Kentucky Residents Celebrate Their Polytheistic Beliefs
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Billy Hallowell
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It’s not uncommon for the religious to gather to celebrate their beliefs, while engaging in conversation and fellowship with one another. But a recent event in Louisville, Kentucky, may raise some curiosities among those who are unfamiliar with more uncommon religious beliefs. Locals came together recently to celebrate “Pagan Pride Day.”
“Pagan” is a term for an individual who embraces polytheism (the belief in multiple gods). But Merriam-Webster also defines the word as follows: “one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods.” It was the individuals who subscribe to the former definition, though, that the gathering sought to celebrate. WDRB.com writes:
Wiccans, Asatru, and Druids are all considered Pagan religions, but anyone was invited to join the fun at Saturday’s event.
Mike Avery, the coordinator of Pagan Pride Day, claims that it’s, “…a celebration of all polytheistic religions.” He continued, saying that the event was intended to spread “information about different spiritual paths.”
The celebration is apparently centered around the fall harvest, a celebration that occurred many centuries ago. Avery says that people observed the harvest by counting their blessings over the abundance of food that came during the season.
The day of pagan pride, which looked somewhat like a typical community gathering or festival, featured jewelry, art and the like. Some participants dressed up — some even sold crafts.
CNN has some additional footage from the event:
According to the group’s Facebook page, entrance to the October 1, 2011 event was free as long as attendees brought canned food with them. The organizers planned to donate to a local food bank.
The Louisville event is apparently one of many pagan celebratory initiatives that take place annually around the globe.
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DirtyDeeds
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:43pmWow, in the video some of those people looked like they could be a little smelly.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:30amWho cares if these nuts for brains celebrate their hedonism. As long as they’re no bothering anyone else, who cares?
While Jeffersons infatuation with Pure Democracy was severely misplaced, hie premise of right libert was right on the mark.
“Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.”
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:48amTake a look at Fox‘s O’Reilly tearing into an atheist professor guest that he had on his show. Completely schooled him: http://www.americanparchment.com/video/2011/oct/oreilly_schools_atheist.html
The arrogance of some people… especially those that think they know too much for there to be a god.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:01amI agree with you Mad_Hatter, but as it relates to a group of people getting together to celebrate their personal beliefs that doesn‘t violate the law it’s really their business. Until they become like the fruits and nuts on Wall St. and other places who are seriously infringing on the equal rights of the people who work in those area’s, AND peddling violence, they should be allowed to congregate.
Now those that you linked who are peddling the demise of the very foundational truth of the Unites States? They’re fair game because they are committing treason, and promoting insurrection.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 7:51amExamples of mind’s polluted with relativity. Truth is Un-relative.
Illusion is that which appears, seems real, but then disappears like a mirage but Truth (reality) is that which is and has been always. Self is a delusion that mixes and dilutes Truth (reality) with illusion. Time is a word we use to describe illusion and its nature while Life is Truth and is always. Life is already Eternal but it is the deluded mind that mixes Life and time and then lives by the philosophy of “lifetime”. We have been given time in order to make a decision of which we want more Truth which brings us the nature of the Truth or more illusion which brings us the nature of illusion. Death is the result of the nature of illusion. We must reap what we sow. God simply doesn’t want us to wait til we die but to realize the Truth now and humble the time created and therefore illusory self identity for the sake of the Truth which is the imagless Spirit of Life our loving Father whom Jesus came to introduce us to and to teach us how to humble the self.
Report Post »DirtyDeeds
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 8:30amThis got a little deep pretty quickly. I was just making an observation about some of the folks, especially that crusty looking fellow with the dragon puppet.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:12pmGee, quite the crowd there.. looks like about 2 dozen pagans showed up.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:45pm“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7
“But Christianity is an invention of sick brains : one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A ***** with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 144
“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers—already, you see, the world had fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing was Christianity!—then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies heroism and which opens the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 667
Lear
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:23pm@IsLesHonest
“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so” — Adolf Hitler
Hitler was also ready to discuss with the Bishop his views on the Jewish question: “As for the Jews, I am just carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic church has adopted for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos etc., because it knew what the Jews were like. I don’t put race above religion, but I do see the danger in the representatives of this race for Church and State, and perhaps I am doing Christianity a great service.” -“The Nazi Persecution of the Churches” by J.S. Conway, Pgs. 25, 26 & 162.
“The National Government will regard it as it’s first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation and will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our Nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life.” (“My New Order”, Adolf Hitler, Proclamation to the German Nation at Berlin, February 1, 1933)
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:26pm“There has never been anything more grandiose on the earth than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party.” – Adolph Hitler – (The Nazi Persecution of the Churches” by J.S. Conway – Pgs. 25, 26 & 162)
“The Pope said to me…that Germany *must become* the sword of the Catholic Church.” - WILHELM II Emperor of Germany -
Lean history IsLesFordian and be responsible……Would you like to see pics of Adolf and Bishops/Popes during this time?
Report Post »WeeDontNeedNoSteeeenkinBadges
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:35pm24 – Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you.
Report Post »25 – For the land is defiled; therefore I visit the punishment of its iniquity upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants.
26 – You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations, either any of your own nation or any stranger who dwells among you
27 – (for all these abominations the men of the land have done, who were before you, and thus the land is defiled),
28 – lest the land vomit you out also when you defile it, as it vomited out the nations that were before you.
29 – For whoever commits any of these abominations, the persons who commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
- Leviticus 18:24-29
WeeDontNeedNoSteeeenkinBadges
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:41pm15 – Take careful heed to yourselves, for you saw no form when the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire,
Report Post »16 – lest you act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female,
17 – the likeness of any animal that is on the earth or the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air,
18 – the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground or the likeness of any fish that is in the water beneath the earth.
19 – And take heed, lest you lift your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them …
…
39 – Therefore know this day, and consider it in your heart, that the LORD Himself is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.
40 – You shall therefore keep His statutes and His commandments which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land which the LORD your God is giving you for all time.
- Deuteronomy 4:15-19,39-40
SmokinJoe
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:41pmI am Pagan!! I am a real American Hopi Indian!! White man came,took the land, raped the woman, Forced the children to pray to there man made GOD!! As a child my Grandfather would sing the song‘s of the JESUS PEOPLE and there WICKED WAY’S!! THERE PROMIS of LOVE! 2012 is around the corner! And you WILL MEET THE REAL GOD‘S OF THE STAR’S CARMA’S A BITCH!!
Report Post »DirtyDeeds
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:56pmSo, I take it you won’t be hosting a cook-out to celebrate Columbus Day this weekend. Hmm.
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:32amYou seem like a very unhappy person. Mad at Jesus and all…
Report Post »God loves you Joe. You ought to open your heart to him and get to know him.
MAProg
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:10am@Joe: yeah, open up to the god that was the justification for a genocide. No thanks.
Report Post »ForeignWatcher
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:43amYeah Maprog, never was anyone killed in the name of your god, right? No Genocides by christians, nono.
btw, Dirtydeeds gets the price for the best answer in this thread ;)
Report Post »Carol Ingian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 6:36amSmokinjoe,
Report Post »I am very sorry to hear how bitter you feel. I think if you look at history honestly, you will see that not all white men were bad. There is good and bad in every race.
Do you remember in history about the attacks that happened between native tribes?
Do you remember that the French lived peacefully with the northern tribes, and had families?
And who nursed Massasoit back to health when he was deathly ill?
People make choices about how they relate to their own race, or different races.
Each person is a unique human being.
Thomas
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 7:53amThe idea of gods is the product of a mind fragmented by relativity not objective Truth. Truth is Un-relative.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 8:16amMaybe you should look into whistle pig Wednesday’s
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:42amSmoke, that is not a true pagan should be expressing himself. What has happened in the past has nothing to do with you as an individual. Internalizing what happened to ones ancestors, does not give us the right to lash out on those who love their religion as we do our respective religions (and Gods)
Report Post »You will find many here who claim to be Christian will condemn anyone who does not give rites to their God. But that does not mean that we as polytheists have to be either condemning their beliefs nor their God. If you are truly at peace with the God or Gods who have called upon you, and you recieve their enlightenment, there is no need for you to proslytize (as that is not what any God that I know of would want for you to do). Dii Te Ament
alice61
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:05pmYour right what “they” did was Wrong”… No one should force anyone to do that… And I would stand with you if any one tried to make you… I am a non thiest too, and glad no one is stopping you for choosing your spiritual path….
Report Post »RUhypnotized
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:10pmHilarious..!
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:47pm@Foreignwatcher: you misunderstand what I’m saying, which is understandable because I accidently said that I was replying to Joe, and not Kaos. I am not a Christian, and, if anything, was making the point you’re making, but towards Kaos.
Report Post »logjam
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:47pmAnd the history of the Hopi vis-a-vis the Dine’ (Navajo) was what? As Jesus Christ once said, “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”
Report Post »SpikeDurden
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 4:24pmThomas- You’re right! The idea of multiple gods is sooooo absurd compared to the idea of one God. How could anyone believe in something so farfetched?
Report Post »motherof18
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:40pmKentucky? Who the hell do they worship, the mullet haired man-bear-pig?
Report Post »DirtyDeeds
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:52pmActually, I believe you are correct. I hear that the god “Mullet Haired Man-Bear-Pig“ exists in the Kentucky hills where he distills ”spirits” at his moonshine still.
Report Post »carnifex
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:17amHonest to God, I have lived in Louisville all my life, and I have never heard of this thing. As far as mullet haired man-bear-pig, I think that’s my cousin. You’ve met my brother, right? Seriously, my step daughter in law, her aunt was bought for 20 goats And her stepfather (my stepdaughter in law), is totally illiterate. Couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him a K and an A. He buys groceries by looking at the pictures on the cans. Sad to say, I’ve got more stories about poor education in Kentucky than you got time to read about. On the other hand we didn‘t vote for Obama so maybe a school education can’t teach you everything.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:49am@ DirtyDeeds
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:52pm
Actually, I believe you are correct. I hear that the god “Mullet Haired Man-Bear-Pig“ exists in the Kentucky hills where he distills ”spirits” at his moonshine still.
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And all this time I thought that was Larry Flint!
CandiRenee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:19am@Carnifex. Thank you. Thank you so very much for perpetuating the belief that Kentucky residents are so a@s backwards. Poor people? There are poor people in every state. I have lived in this state for the majority of my life and I’m proud of it (30 miles SW of Louisville and 10 miles west of Ft. Knox). I live in a small town and the only thing I regret is not living FURTHER out into the country away from annoying neighbors that like to blare their bass/music at midnight. Granted, I don’t live in the hills as some do, but when the crap hits the fan in our country, they will be the ones that go on as if nothing has happened because they know how to live off the land and live off the grid. (BTW, the biggest rednecks I’ve ever met were in Pennsylvania)! Also, Louisville is a great town (minus the west end where the majority of the crime/murders are…but what city doesn’t have a section like that?). Louisville is very diverse believe it or not. I‘ve worked for years at a manufacturing facility in L’ville, and there are lot of refugees…Cubans, Bosnians, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Sudanese, Kenyan, Ethiopian, and several Russians (and yes, the majority speak English, AND they are SO proud when they become actual citizens. So what if Pagans want to gather? It’s their right. I am Christian, & I believe in the right to free speech, so if these individuals want to have a pagan day, let them. They will face judgment in the end, just like the rest of us.
Report Post »@I.Gaspar-Incest? You’re
wbedding
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:43ambeing a Kentuckian, it doesn’t surprise me this occurred in Louisville. it might as well secede from the state and become it’s own little corner of the universe.
HOWEVER, they do have the right to hold this peaceful event. as Christians, it is our job to show them love and the Gospel. it is between God and them as to what they do with it.
Report Post »mikee1
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:19pmPAGANISM is just a replacement synonym for SATANISM. I really like how most Satanists do not feel comfortable in coming out. Actually, they never have, even in ancient times. This is why the Jews are hated. The Jews were the first to tell them their gods were frauds and their behavior was all wrong.
Report Post »RavenGlenn
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:40pmRiiiiight. Paganism is when you are religious but refuse to follow any of the mainstream religions. That’s IT.
Considering that the Catholic church basically assimilated and absorbed as much of Paganism as they could…I’d hope I were wrong about it if I were you. Heck, some of your saints were hardcore Pagans that followed Paganist beliefs who were co-opted by your church and given rank and titles.
Report Post »farmerpat42
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:01amMany Pagans I know (mostly Wiccan or Astaru) are more charitable than people at my church.
Paganism is NOT satanism – Pagans have no joy in other’s suffering. Mikee1 your statement is pretty ignorant.
Report Post »DeVain
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 6:35amSatanist don’t like suffering, especially Laveyans. It reaches kindness….unless your an ingrate that doesn’t deserve kindness. Kindness is precious and not to be wasted on someone that won’t appreciate it.
Report Post »Paganism in a nutshell is a catch-all term that means “not christian”.
FWIW, I always thought having Peter Gilmore on Glenn Beck would be interesting. The CoS is based out of New York and I think many would be surprised on how conservative/libertarian Laveyan Satanist are.
let us prey
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 8:30amA certain small mustached German man was influenced by paganism and the occult.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:00amHitler was enamored by REAL Germasn paganism, the hard and violent kind. He hated Christianity because he said it made men soft and weak. Odin, the Norse god, was cruel and capricious. He favored the strong and crushed the weak.
Turning the other cheek, loving your enemy, grace and forgiveness, these are not the old pagan virtues. The old pagans looked at nature and saw rigid standards for survival. the strong survive and the weak are left to die (or are eaten). Their virtues were the “manly” ones of Courage, Justice, Patience and Prudence. Self-control, but not self-sacrifice, were the noble goals of paganism. Christianity transformed this world and added three new virtues of Faith, Hope and Love.
Hitler wanted to go back.
These so-called pagans are like geeks playing Dungeons and Dragons in their parent’s basement.
Report Post »goatrope67
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:36am@ Let Us Prey…that certain small mustacheod man was also a Catholic and was embraced and defended by the Pope
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:36amGoatrope,
Report Post »That’s false. Hitler may have grown up Catholic and tried to appear catholic in the beginning, but he made it clear how much he despised Christianity. And the Pope never embraced him. The Pope never embraced him.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:08pm@IsLedFordia
Wrong again. That’s like saying Osama grew Islamic, practiced Islam, but wasn’t Muslim. And yes, the Pope embraced Hitler. Pictures and literature of quotes and correspondences show that. Learn History!
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:28pmMIKEE1- “PAGANISM is just a replacement synonym for SATANISM.”
Report Post »Incorrect. The word pagan stems from the Latin “pagani” which would be the same as saying “country bumkin”. It was a derrogatory term used to describe rural folks.
As for “satanism”, that would imply that one would worship the being described in your Bible. As most who practice their respective diety’s rites (who are not of the Christian faith like myself). I can assure you (from reading the description of “satan” in your Bible), that I do not perform the rites for anything of the sort. In fact, my teachings not only include the existance of your God, but show me to respect your individual choice to praise him as your only God. Any “pagan” who says otherwise has not recieved the enlightenment of any God.
let us prey
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:31pmgoat
Report Post »Really? Seriously man?
Hmm goats/ boots/ there is a weird story about this.
Islesfordian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:50pm“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. … In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7
“But Christianity is an invention of sick brains : one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A ***** with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 144
“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers—already, you see, the world had fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing was Christianity!—then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies heroism and which opens the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 667
Learn some history Oakie.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:33pm@IsLesHonest
“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so” — Adolf Hitler
Hitler was also ready to discuss with the Bishop his views on the Jewish question: “As for the Jews, I am just carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic church has adopted for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos etc., because it knew what the Jews were like. I don’t put race above religion, but I do see the danger in the representatives of this race for Church and State, and perhaps I am doing Christianity a great service.” -“The Nazi Persecution of the Churches” by J.S. Conway, Pgs. 25, 26 & 162.
“The National Government will regard it as it’s first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation and will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our Nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life.” (“My New Order”, Adolf Hitler, Proclamation to the German Nation at Berlin, February 1, 1933) ……………..
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:38pm“There has never been anything more grandiose on the earth than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party.” – Adolph Hitler – (The Nazi Persecution of the Churches” by J.S. Conway – Pgs. 25, 26 & 162)
“The Pope said to me…that Germany *must become* the sword of the Catholic Church.” - WILHELM II Emperor of Germany -
Lean history IsLesFordian and be responsible……Would you like to see pics of Adolf and Bishops/Popes during this time? …………….
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:13pmOkie, I guess you don’t understand how political lies work. Hitler appealed to the german masses pretending to be religious. he did to te Pope too. Hitler’s true feelings about the church are revealed in his later speeches when he dropped the mask, and in his attacks against catholic clergy that would not submit to his rule. he put many priests in concentration camps.
But how do you reconcile his anti-catholic anti-Christian statements with the ones claiming to be Christian and catholic? Would any true Catholic, any true Christian speak the way he did about Christianity and transubstantiation? Answer that. I can give an explanation that accounts for both sets of statements. Can you?
And for the record, there is no evidence that Obama is a Muslim. He’s a Marxist who sees religion as a political crutch (see his remarks about people clinging to God and guns) unless it can be used for socialist policies (a la Jeremiah Wright’s “church”). He doesn’t practice Islam in any way. Only a fanatical Muslim ideology would see him as a muslim because he was raised by one in his youth. Are YOU a fanatical Muslim?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:48pm@IsLesFordian
Quite familiar how political lies work. Before we begin with Hitler what was the meaning of the Pope’s statement to Wilhelm?
I’m curious what the Pope found so appealing about Hitler. Can you tell us?
Yes, Hitler spoke for Christianity and then spoke against it and then spoke for it and then against it. Hitler seemed to distinguish “Christianity” in Germany from other “Christianity” as in Rome. Germans were to be the best, strong and full of pride. If one took time and use that logic one clearly can see Hitler was vowing for German Christianity, Nazism, to be the “religion”.
Any Roman Clergy who spoke out about the Jews or Hitler’s power was put into camps. These Clergy would not convert or embrace Nazism, Hitler’s German Christianity.
Hitler was baptized a Catholic at birth and was an alter boy. Any baptized stay Catholic until denounced by the Church. Was Hitler denounced? Gerbil’s was for marrying a Protestant.
I’m unsure why you assume I think bad BO is Muslim for I do not. If he is Muslim, he isn’t doing a well job of practicing his faith. Liberation Theology was taught in Mr Wright’s Church. The Catholic Church also embraces Liberation Theology. Oh wait, they don’t like it this year but did before as seen by the quote of the current “pope” when he was a Cardinal. Surely they are not doing as you suggested Hitler did, lie and mask their main goals….
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:15pmSo let’s take a look from the Churches side…
The Roman Catholic Church was all-powerful for 1260 years as a Religion ran State that controlled much of Europe until wounded by Napoleon in 1798. The Church craved the power it once had and was looking for a someone to help them regain that power again.
The Pope asked Wilhelm to be the sword of the Catholic Church. Wilhelm and his empire fell, Vatican became Church and State again and Hitler rose up in Germany. The Catholic Church then became friendly with Hitler, a Catholic. Hitler then proceeds with the blessing of the Pope and Church until it came for who would be ruler. Hitler would not relinquish his power and wanted Nazism as the Religion so as to follow Hitler, not the weak pope.
Islam was started by Catholics as can be seen thru History as well. Unfortunately it backfired and these Muslims would not give Jerusalem up after they captured it, thus leading to the crusades.
The USA was once Protestant based and most viewed the Catholic Church as the anti-Christ. Currently most Protestant Churches teach almost the same doctrine as the Catholic Church, like an image that speaks. The USA now fights for Jerusalem for the Pope against Islam with “Jews” as the guise.
80-90% of Catholic Doctrine can be proven false with a Bible. That should tell you something.
Have a great night!
Report Post »Dudley Do-Right
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 12:46pmJack T. Chick’s Gallery of Anti-Catholic Tracts
http://archive.catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p4.asp
Report Post »onegodinkansas
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:16pmTrinitarians should enjoy it!
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:18amBeliefs just as quaint and speculative as Christianity and the other religions (monotheism and polytheism both suffer from the same fallacy–theism; atheism is, too, a fallacy, for both theism and atheism make grander conclusions than they have sufficient evidence to make)
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:12pmWhatever – to each his own… at least Pagans don‘t wear suicide vests and want to kill those who don’t worship as they do….
Report Post »farmerpat42
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:02amHere here.
Report Post »Findalis
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:21amThat is the truth. I would prefer a Pagan/Wiccan as a neighbor than a Muslim.
Report Post »Lindsey.gilbert529
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:20amThank you, CapitalismRocks, FarmerPat and Findalis. I’d also like to point out that it did not appear this group was protesting for special treatment. Believe it or not, quite a few Pagans are conservative – they mainly just want to be left in peace and to retain their autonomy. Most also share many of the same morals as Christians and Jews, they just look at God a little differently.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:56amTwo different aspects to this….civil & spiritual
Civil:
They have obeyed the law – permits & such. They aren’t accosting, threatening or abusing anyone. They aren’t shouting obscenities or sedition. They aren’t vandalizing or destroying public or private property. They aren’t leaving their trash & garbage lying around. Etc Etc
Spiritual:
Choice of religion or faith is just that – a personal choice. They aren‘t demanding anyone else share their beliefs and they certainly aren’t saying their mission is to kill anyone who doesn’t share those beliefs. They are practicing their beliefs peacefully. As a Christian I don‘t think their beliefs are correct but I also believe it’s not for me to judge them. I would have no problem sitting down with them and talking about their faith and mine. Not to arrogantly demand they follow my beliefs but to share my faith with them. Peaceful words always trump angry demands.
I’m thankful we live in a country where freedom of religion is still allowed. At least for now.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:05pmIn poker there can only be 1. In life we serve 1 or the other, not a bunch of congress men.
Report Post »majorsco
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:53pmWhere’s the athiests complaining about this, or do they only have Christianity in their sights!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:15pmThe issue really isn’t that they protest Christians, but that many Christians are not sure enough about their own religion, and so they allow atheists and others to be worthy enough to unbuckle Jesus’ shoes. If John the Baptist wasn’t worthy enough to unbuckle that which Jesus latches, then how can an atheist?
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:01amI’m sorry. I musta missed the part about the Pagan town’s government putting a pentacle on top of a government owned water tower. I’ll do back and reread.
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Nope. Still wasn’t there. Are you sure you’ve got your religions and controversies in order?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:47pmI wish the article when in more depth regarding Pagan festivals. I believe many would find a lot of those “holidays” they practice in Church are Pagan and should not be mixed with Church. Example: Christmas; Saturnalia(17th – 24th), worship of Saturn, and Brumalia (25th), solstices festival for Bacchus, were Roman Pagan festivals. Roman Catholics brought these Pagan festivals into the Church and they have been there since. There is nothing Biblical or Christian about these…..
Let them enjoy who they worship and I will enjoy God. We just aren‘t to mix in with their celebrations to Pagan God’s, unfortunately, our Churches have…..
Report Post »Nasado
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:13pmWell, you did get one thing right. The Christian holidays that we celebrate are not biblical but they are Christian. It is true that they took the place of mainly Roman pagan holidays but what is wrong with that. Obviously Christ was not born in December but most likely spring. Yet the Christians took the Roman holidays are then changed the focus from the worship of a pagan god to the worship of God and Christ. So it isn’t on the actual day. Neither is the celebration of birhtdays on Feb. 29 3 out of 4 years. During Christmas and Easter we remember the birth and atonement of Christ and celebrate His life. Everything about them IS Christian. I know I can feel the spirit of Christ during those times as well as all those who remember Him and try to follow Him. Just because the Jehovah’s Witnesses do not celebrate those holidays does not mean that they are not Christian. You just choose to remember His life and sacrifice in different ways and there is nothing wrong with that.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:14amNasado
Report Post »There is a book by Andrew Gabriel Roth called “Wheel of Stars” where he outlines how they took computer equipment, fed in data on planets, constellations, moon, etc and came up with the day of Jesus’ birth in the fall on Sukkot.
Yes, Christmas (winter solstice – Baal) and Easter (spring solstice – Asheroth) are pagan holidays. It really doesn’t matter what WE think about it, only matters what GOD thinks about it. The example we have in Exodus where the Israelites took the golden calf and pinned God’s good name on it did not work out well!! It is not only the Jehovah’s Witnesses who do not celebrate these days any more. More and more people think it is the wrong thing to do…mixing holy and pagan.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:20amHowdy! Truth is hard sometimes. Please do not let me speaking truth offend you. I believe in living in reality, truth. Practicing pagan holidays and placing “Jesus” as the focus of these worships is nothing more then changing the name Saturn or the other to “Jesus”. Christ needs no Pagan worship so in order to benefit ourselves or giving a “reason” to partake in these acts we lie or “pretend” they are about Jesus. What does Jesus Christ Lord and Savior need “Christmas” for? Now what do you need “Christmas” for other then to partake in exchanging gifts, being merry, and etc…Understand you can feel Christ everyday and everyday is a celebration for Him because he is alive. If we are to honor God and the birth of His Son shouldn’t we at least have respect enough to get the right date and not mix Pagan practice with the worship of God and His son thru the Holy Spirit?
Understand I grew up believing in St Nick and all the great stuff, but if we are to be true to ourselves and we under stand Satan wants nothing more than to deceive us, especially thru mixing God worship for Satan worship or false worship, shouldn’t we as true believers in Jesus question that and be honest about it?
Mixing pagan belief and worship of God is forbidden throughout the Bible, old and New testaments, so where and what truth do you use to say it is ok to mix them?
My faith is non denominational not that Jehovah Witness are bad either, just saying….Hope your nights good.
Report Post »TheVoice1
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 7:35amOkie from Muskogee if folks would just look up “ole nick” in the unabridged dictionary it would be an eye opener for sure for many…. Ole Nick lines his pockets every year
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:02pmIo Saturnalia!
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:44pmAnd what do we think halloween is all about?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:43pmI wonder what beliefs of the druids survived after the Romans massacred them at Anglesey. We have stories & legends but nothing coherent. So a person really could make up almost anything.
Report Post »Johnny916
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:38pmThis is what freedom of religion is all about. I’m Jewish and gladly support this event.
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:36pmHappy Samhain, Fall Harvest, Autumnal Equinox, Halloween to all the Pagans and non-Pagans.
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:28pmPLEASE tell me that federal taxpayer money is not being used to support this crap.
If Kentucky residents support it financially and “spiritually” go for it but don’t expect the rest of us to understand.
It looks to be to a hodge podge of people getting together for “not very specific reasons” rather like those Wall Street rioters.
Report Post »carnifex
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:25amWhile I don’t know for sure, I can pretty much assure you no state money went to this thing maybe using a park but that’s about it. We’re a very poor state, not at all like Illinois or New York, or California so there is no cash monies from the Gov’t for this sort of thing.
Report Post »CandiRenee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:30am@Politicaljukietoo- Why are assuming Federal tax money is being used? Because they are in a park?
Report Post »“If Kentucky residents support it financially and “spiritually” go for it but don’t expect the rest of us to understand.” — Are you assuming that ALL Kentucky residents support this spirtually? If you do, you are wrong. I better not find out my tax dollars supported this either, Federal or State (I’m a resident of Kentucky). Whether I agree with them or not, it is their constitutional right to free speech.
@Carnifex – We certainly aren’t the richest state, but we sure aren’t the poorest (as far as gov’t). Last time I checked, our governor has taken measures to resolve our budget issues. New York, California, or Illinois are rich??? Well, don‘t they all have high tax rates and that’s why companies are leaving those states?? Those 3 states happen to be very regulated and among other things, have many restrictions on firearms. You couldn’t pay me to leave Kentucky to move to one of those states….
FaithfulFriend
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:27pmWill never think of pagans as all being thin folks again.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:47pmI am.
Report Post »glennrocks
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:26pmThe world just gets crazier and crazier. Glenn Beck for President 2012!!!
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:09amThumbs up on that, we could only wish.
Report Post »flatbroke
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:20pmgreat the religion of my ancient ancestors being dug up and reanimated, Hey folks if it actually worked back in the day no one would have converted to christainity. its like voodoo or wika if it worked everyone would be doing it , but they aint.
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:31pmHmm, or maybe they were forced to convert. Also sounds like an argument ad populum: just because something is popular doesn’t mean it is right. Conversely, just because something isn’t as popular, doesn’t mean it is wrong.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:47pmMAProg
The druids were wiped out by the Romans at Anglesey. Other than the Saxons being converted by the Franks by the sword, Europe was converted by persuasion. Look at Saint Boniface. He carried no sword & was cut down by Germans. And yet Germany is Christian
Many molds used by smiths had moth carvings to thor’s hammer & the cross.. The cross won out.
And we all love Norse myths judging from movie sales & the popularity of the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
If there was something there we would have known it.
Report Post »mrbuff1959
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:12amThey did not make it mainly because the good christians killed them all!
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:57am@Walkabout: You graze over the campaigns against the Saxons as if it’s a historical footnote. Charlemagne waged war against the pagans for 20 years, where Saxon and Anglo-Saxon pagans were forced to convert under threat of death, were often tortured, and had their temples razed. Before that, there was the systematic persecution of pagans by the Roman Empire during and after Constantine, along with the destruction and pillaging of pagan temples. The Christian government of Rome criminalized pagan worship in all forms. Later, there were the campaigns against the Scandinavians, as well as the Northern (Baltic) Crusades. There were the Inquisitions during the middle ages. There was the systematic extermination, slavery, and forced conversion of millions of Native Americans from the Carribean, South, and North America. There were instances of children of Native Americans taken from their tribes to be Christianized. Concurrently, there was the buring of alleged ‘witches’ in colonial America, and the abduction of Africans. While many Africans would convert without force, it can be argued that the act of being abducted from their ancestral lands played an important part in their conversion. Basically, it could be argued that anywhere where imperialism took place, the dominant culture was tacitly forced on the native peoples. While it could be argued that many of these conversions were voluntary, it could also be argued that imperialism in and of itself is a form of coercion.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:03amMAProg
Report Post »Charlemagne kept attacking because he would defeat them, make a peace treaty & they would turn around & attack. The Saxons broke numerous treaties. It wasn’t after the 1st, 2nd or 3rd battles that Charlemagne said convert or die. Get your history straight.
The Saxons were only one German Tribe or super confederation. There were many others.
DeavonReye
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:13pmSeriously, Flatbroke, that is a ridiculous comment. If you understood HOW christianity was “promoted” in the ancient world, you wouldn’t make such comments. Why is christianity popular today [in the U.S., anyway], is because it is the popular religion of choice. THAT’S IT! There is no more actual truth to it either, just a majority rule. Tell me how the majority rule in Arab contries is wrong, based upon your quote above? I trust you can see why your statement is flawed.
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:53pm@Walkabout: that‘s probably because people don’t like to be conquered and have their cultural identity destroyred. If you’re implying that they “brough it on themselves” because they wouldn’t submit to a foreign invader, then you have an odd set of ethics. If radical Muslims conquered the U.S., would you not resist? As for the rest of the examples, I’ve cited, I noticed you stayed away from those.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 6:13pmAny of you guys remember that Ireland was Druid before Patrick went over there on his missionary trip?
Report Post »LANE131
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 8:55pmYou could say the same thing today about Christanity, maybe it has not worked for them and that is why they became pagens, maybe that is why Christanity is down in Europe, and in the U.S.A from years past. Maybe Christanity is not meeting some people needs and that why they are drawn to things like environmental cults and the like.
Report Post »This is not a slam on Christanity…just asking…I like the freedom of religion we have in the U.S.A.
But muslims…the religion of peace…with all that killing and keeping women and men down and locked in fear and death with lies….and wanting to wipe out a whole group of people…killing people who leave their religion or will not join their religion…i can not see that being with god. But i can see Pagans and Christans and Jews, Buddhist, Hindus ect being with god. O.K. That”s my 2 cents worth.
Harold B
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:17pmYou could sense the joyful lives these people were enjoying LOL
Report Post »ares338
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:16pmGood for them I say! Each to their own tastes. That’s what makes this country great!
Report Post »Harold B
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:13pmI will stick with Jesus especially considering the eternal torment associated with Pagan religions
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:13pmSo who are they praying to exactly ????????
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:33pmIt depends on their specific faith. Some pray to the Earth Mother, some to Nature (non personified), some to the Cosmic Consciousness, some to Odin, it depends.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:48pmThey’re praying to themselves. None of these wannabes is a real pagan. They’re just lazy atheists.
You want real paganism watch “the Wicker Man”. The original one with Christopher Lee. If you don‘t actually kill something as a sacrifice to the gods it isn’t pagan.
Report Post »Consentiondum
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:10amLazy atheists? No way, I am a lazy atheist… can’t think of a good reason to go to one of these. Maybe for a laugh, but then I’d feel bad
No sacrifice necessary, necessarily. Pagan is a pretty broad term… no one use to call themselves that. It literally means “rural” or one who lives in the country. The early Church in the Roman empire and Europe in general was centered around churches and cathedrals in cities. The cities were where the priest and bishops were, and where Christianity at the time was practiced the most. Those living out in the “boonies,” or rural areas, at the time clung to their older belief systems.
The term has been taken and transformed recently to refer to some of the older nature or earth worshiping religions. In their original context these religions didn’t have names, they didn’t need to have names because for the people at the time and everyone in the surrounding areas they were simply a matter of fact for them. Albeit, there is some form of sacrifice in most of them. Rooster or something.
I can only assume these modern “Pagans” practice old belief systems that had no names of their own. Most popularly would be a duality of deities: Nature or Earth Mother, and a Male as the sky or the sun. As a side note it even makes some sense: The sky sends down rain and light to fertilize (hence male) the ground, the ground in turn bears fruit (hence female). It’s kinda neat in a way, ridiculous from a modern understanding, but
Report Post »Suanniiq
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:00am@Islefordian–that would make Christians Pagans too–For Jesus was sacrificed to cover people’s sins–good point!!!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 8:00amIt was the one sacrifice of Jesus that abolished the Pagan and Jewish sacrifices. These bloodless “pagan” revivals are really the descendants of Christianity.
I call them lazy atheists because they intellectually lazy. They are acting as if the One God is not really there, thus they are atheists, but they will not substitute for him a true alternative god that requires something. the old pagans had to sacrifice because pleasing the gods wasn’t easy. It wasn’t any easier than pleasing Yahweh. But these so-called pagans think harmony with nature/the universe is a snap, just light some candles, say some bland generic prayers and walk through labyrinths in the shrubbery.
The old pagans would have had these clowns for lunch.
Report Post »Consentiondum
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 7:20pm@Islesfordian
I can concede to some of your points! Not something I find myself saying very often.
Although, I know some people that spend hours doing various meditations. They are by no means Judeo-Christian or Islamic in nature. Surely they are sacrificing something, if not just time, to contemplate the so called divine or true nature of reality, whatever it may be.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:11pmWhat do you expect from a state where many residents keep marriage “in the family”?
Report Post »jordan111280
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:33pmYour comment is crap! I live in Kentucky, but was born on the west coast. Incest is just as likely anywhere else.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:40pmEvery state has at least one major metropolitan area & many mid sized one. They all look alike. A lot of southerners migrated to he rust belt before it was the rust belt & many northerners migrated to the sun belt. I don;t know where you come up with your ideals of incest except Hollywood.
Report Post »IBLEEDREDWHITEANDKENTUCKYBLUEGOCATS
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:42pmif i was you i wouldnt show up in kentucky spouting that crap many men have gone ‘missing’ in these hollers for a lot less please keep in mind that this is in LOUISVILLE that place in no way represents the rest of the state
Report Post »65Mustang
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 8:56amI was born, raised and continue to live in Kentucky…your comment on keeping marriage “in the family” is stupid and actually could apply to any state in the union.
Report Post »CandiRenee
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:37amSeriously?? Your ignorance shines through in your comment. I’m from this state and noone I know “keeps it in the family”. The crime of incest is nationwide, not in one state…geez….~sigh~ [shakes head}
Report Post »randy
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:11pmYeah Ok, whatever. looks like a huge crowd!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:17pmAnd from what I saw in the pic and video… they ARE a huge crowd… waist wise.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:07pmits celebrate your wanting to belong to a group day …………..well, at least they are looking
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:07pmJust another event to be taken by *******. Gay pride ALWAYS finds it way into the main stream of EVERYTHING opposite of Christianity.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:52pmYes gays are against everything Christian for the most part. I remember one Christian funeral where a wiccan practiced witchcraft. It was for their own ends to gain power. I should look that guy up if he hasn‘t already died of Slim’s disease.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:10amI didn’t figure anyone would touch my comment. It is a true story. The early twenties something so called war lock wanted to put a lock of his hair in the casket to gain power over the deceased. Freaking beta male
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:55pmThe people who would disrespect your God or religion, do not recieve the blessings of the Gods they claim to worship. There are people within our own respective faiths who do not represent us all, so keep that in mind before you tie all of us upon the same stake. :)
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:07pmAwesome! I hope they enjoy their day.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:47amYou truly know your God, many blessings to you and yours. Now, let’s get those totalitarianists out of our government!
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