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Palin Knocked for Dropping ‘H-Bomb’

The liberal Talking Points Memo issued the “H-Bomb“ designation after Sarah Palin referred to the President as ”Barack Hussein Obama.”  Okay fine. Palin can defend herself on that count if she wants to.  But I’d like to know the answer to the larger point Palin was making:

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  • jumper1977
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:27pm

    I think it is a little disingenuous to suggest that use of Obama’s middle name is always some inoccuous recitation of “his whole name”. While it is certainly not true that any recitation of his complete name is by necessity grounded in an attempt to paint him as “the other”, connect him to Saddam, or denigrate him as “not very American”. What is also not true however is that those very things aren’t precisely why some choose such a reference.

    And yes, it does matter who is using it and why. This idea that only “the right people” can use it is incomplete. I would suggest that anyone can use it,but the opposition is centered on any attempts.to use his name as some sort of message in and of itself.

    It’s really the perfect scenario. I think people know precisely why it’s occasionaly opposed, but can then just hide behind the “dumbfounded” looks and “confusion” about what it so wrong with “just using his whole name.”.

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    • TeaLovingPatriot
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:56pm

      So could Talking Points Memo, Media Matters, or the reconstituted JournOList issue a daily memo, letting us know when it is or is not appropriate to use the President’s middle name? Maybe they can do an alternate day thing — it’s okay on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and alternate Sundays, but never on a Tuesday. Or perhaps simply issue an edict that only certain people (but obviously not those evil teabaggers!) are allowed to utter his middle name?

      “kay, thanks!

      Either it‘s okay to say it or it isn’t. You can’t have it both ways. Can’t be okay for some people to use it but not others. So stop playing the victim card with the man’s middle name. Hey, how about this strategy: stop playing the victim card, period.

      As pointed out in the article, the left has basically reduced us to talking about the use of his middle name in order to keep folks from thinking about the validity of Mrs. Palin’s point. Which was their intention all along.

      So enough about Barry’s middle name. Let‘s discuss how the MSM couldn’t be bothered to properly vet the guy before they decided to convince the country to vote for him, which, btw, the latter wasn’t their job…

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    • jumper1977
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:39pm

      1.) I’ve never thought sarcasm was a good substitute for reasoned arguments.

      2.) I’m not TPM or the liberal media. As such, you really didn’t address my points.

      3.) This doesn’t demand a double standard at all. I have close friends who can say things to my wife (because I know them and precisely why they are saying it) that I would be infuriated if something else noted. It isn’t a double standard to suggest that the exact same words in different contexts and from different sources mean vastly different things.

      4.) Here’s at least one viable response that gets to the heart of this faster then all of these “dumbfounded” responses. “I fully understand some use Obama’s middle name as a wedge and to denigrate him, but based on X and Y, I don’t think Palin was doing that at all.” Another approach would be to simply lay out why conservative leaders use his middle name and perhaps why Palin was using it here.

      5.) People can use his middle name all they want. I don’t think it should be censored. All I’m asking is that people stop insulting the intelligence of the readers by suggesting this is all some innocuous recitation of his name disconnected from any other intent whatsoever.

      My bottom line is this: The disingenuity is dripping off of many of these responses. You don’t have to insult my intelligence (general comment) to address the heart of the concerns above.

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    • Prospero
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:41pm

      Imputing sinister motives to others is generally considered low class and vulgar.

      His name *is* Barrack Hussein Obama. It *is* the tradition in America to refer to a President by his full name. He *did* choose that very name for himself.

      Whatever “message” exists is purely imaginary. To impugn the entire American population by suggesting they are pavlovian simpletons who can be swayed negatively by someone’s middle name is reprehensible, and gives a much more negative “message” about the person who suggests it.

      Like yourself, for instance.

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    • Prospero
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 2:04pm

      Jumper1977 writes: “I’ve never thought sarcasm was a good substitute for reasoned arguments.”

      Straw man. You might have had a relevant point, if the sarcasm was a substitute…rather than the adjunct it obviously is. Your disinclination to engage the reasoned points does not indicate that no reasoned points were made.

      In case you’re not up on current events, *******, nobody falls for this sort of faux indignation anymore.

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    • kb1200cc
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 5:00pm

      I think its a lame argument that reciting his middle name makes him “not very American” I think his philosophy, his behavior, his disdain for our traditions, his disregard for our will, and his actions make him “not very American”

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    • t00nces2
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 5:15pm

      Well, it looks like a site where you are on your honor to post doesn’t work very well when those on the left are concerned. pickup1988=jumper1977

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    • jumper1977
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 7:49pm

      1.) If people should be offended, by all means it should be a result of their positions being taken on in a transparent and direct way. That has nothing to do with using someone’s name as a wedge.

      2.) I‘m not the liberal media and I’m not part of some amalgamation of “liberals”. I honestly believe that much of the divisive rhetoric could be lessened, were we to simply respond to individuals as contrasted with lumping everyone from “the other side” into one entity and then suggesting either implicitly or explicitly that each person can be attached to the worst elements of the grouping.

      3.) Having grown up a conservative, I’m probably not that far removed from how conservatives think. I still have discussions with strong conservatives who I have a tremendous amount of respect for. (Who quite frankly would have absolutely no part of the tone of much of the above discourse.)

      4.) I have no interest in specifically calling anyone a racist. What I will suggest once again however that I simply don’t buy some of this “dumbfoundedness.” as if the only reason anyone ever uses Obama’s middle name is out of respect or tradition. But yes, I absolutely believe it can be used in a racist manner. (Something that seems to never gain any level of concession.) I actually think there’s some middle ground here.

      5.) It is certainly just my opinion, but yes, I absolutely believe that Palin was using his name for political expediency. I recognize however that it certainly can’t be proved one way or the other. And I’ll end where I started: I think that the frequent “I’m just using his whole name” defense is disingenuous.

      You don’t have to listen to commentators on the left or the right to realize there seems to be a consensus that “nicknames” attached to “the other side” are beneficial to their cause. (Yes, I‘m fully aware Hussein isn’t a nickname, but it isn’t central to my point.)

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    • jumper1977
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 7:56pm

      @Prospero (Generally)

      .) “Imputing sinister motives” Beyond the delightful irony of such a comment in this context, it seems somewhat hyperbiolic. I don’t think that everyone who disagrees with Obama is racist. . .not even close. But I do however think that the degree of opposition from some is absolutely predicated on racism. It seems to follow based on your above assertion that such a statement would as well “impute sinister motives”. (Or be a very effective framework for simply shutting down debate.)

      2.) As to “impugning” the entire American population. You either disregard my point or are erecting a straw man of your own. Here’s what I absolutely believe. Both liberals and conservatives are well aware that the words they use and the messages they craft will sway public opinion. It’s not an issue of moving everyone, but the reality that they can sway some. I don’t have to impugn the entire American population to believe that some can absolutely be swayed by a message that, in part, uses a foreign sounding name. If aspects of this weren‘t true Frank Luntz and many others wouldn’t have a job.

      3.) As to sarcasm. If arguments peripheral to my point are “adjunct” and preclude the possibility of substitution then perhaps you have a viable point. As the point I was addressing had not “adjunct” “non-sarcasm”, I made the point I did.

      4.) It seems that these argument tend to focus exlusively on the opposite poles. Either everyone that opposes Obama is a racist, or there is a complete denial that racism can even be a part of the equation. Similarily, one side seems to suggest that even using “Hussein” demands bigotry, while the “other side” suggests that it isn’t even possible to use his name in a divisive manner and the simple suggestion that this would absolutely work on a portion of the populace leads to the claim the entire American populace has been impugned. I’ll say it again. I think it‘s highly disingenous to claim that this doesn’t ever happen, just as it is also faulty to suggest that it’s use demands bigotry.

      5.) It seems to me that using sophisticated phrasing, or words like “imputing” and “adjunct” gets rendered somewhat useful when you stoop to calling someone a *******. Fortunately, no one on this board or any American will be persuaded by this obviously irrelevant name calling.

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  • Jimt
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:26pm

    What‘s wrong with speaking a person’s whole name?

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  • txrphjd
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:25pm

    But that is Barry’s middle name is it not? When people are trying to emphasize a point, it is not uncommon to say a person’s entire name. Get over it!

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  • 1600 Palin Avenue
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:25pm

    The whole Obama persecution meme is so yesterday. The MFM can pimp the benefits all they want. 2008 has come and gone.

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    • blakedottie
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 9:42pm

      Yep.2010 is upon us,be ready to see a lot of dem’s crying.poor things.

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  • unionrockstar
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:24pm

    The H word?
    What the……are they talking about?
    Is that not his given name?
    Is he ashamed of his name?
    Are the Dems ashamed of his name?
    If so, he can always change it………I mean he is for change isn’t he? At least that’s what he said.
    OK we will just go back you calling you Barry

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    • unionrockstar
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:56pm

      Oh now I see,
      In an article posted by the Dems before his election that tryed to clear up any negative reaction toward the chosen one’s name……they said
      There have been lots of Husseins in history, from the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad to King Hussein of Jordan

      Now I get it

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    • The Wraith
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 12:08am

      I’d tell you what *I* call him, but I’m thinking Mr. Beck wants to keep this site somewhat family-friendly. ;)

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  • bobojake
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:24pm

    ”Barack Hussein Obama.” ,”Barack Hussein Obama.” ,”Barack Hussein Obama.” ”Barack Hussein Obama.” ,”Barack Hussein Obama.” ,”Barack Hussein Obama.” ,”Barack Hussein Obama.” is the most CORRUPT IMPOSTER to ever be elected to a public office in the Whole United States of America. See you on NOV 2nd obama-lyin-itis we have your CURE Hussein

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  • TexasGranny
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:22pm

    When did it become “NOT OKAY” to speak the truth? Everything Palin said about no investigation being done into BHO’s background is absolutely true. He has spent millions of $$ to prevent any of his school records, international travels, and finances from being published. WHY?

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    • Patriot37
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:43pm

      Hey Granny,the reason is that the truth will set US free!

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    • Prospero
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:35pm

      Most likely is that he played fast and loose with his identity/nationality for college grants and other benefits.

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  • Bob_O
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:21pm

    Ok, I am confused, I checked the TPM site and it is not there! They posted it on YouTube but not their own site???

    Weird

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  • BrerRabbit
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:21pm

    Let’s see…John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, William Jefferson Clinton…seems I remember using these names.

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    • Prospero
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:03pm

      James Earl Carter, Richard Milhouse Nixon, George Herbert Walker Bush, Lyndon Baines Johnson.

      It‘s always been the custom in America to employ a President’s full name. The left just invents reasons to be offended, and to the extent that they serve to censor others they prefer them.

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  • AMERICA4EVER
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:19pm

    Obama and his ilk are so thin skinned and now right down to his name.

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  • USA Pride
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:18pm

    A Palin-Beck ticket would be awesome!

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    • Prospero
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:57pm

      I’d vote for Palin, but I think Beck is too soft. Wouldn’t mind having him as my Congressman or Representative, though.

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    • Rugnuts
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 7:26pm

      LOL too soft

      Beck-Palin

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  • FiveFreedoms
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:17pm

    Who cares? If the President does not like his name he should change it.
    Sarah Is absolutley right to point out that our intrepid media is doing what it always does unless the candidate is on the left.

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  • USA Pride
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:17pm

    I can‘t believe the trivial things that the left will do to smear someone that they don’t like or don’t agree with. From now until the midterm elections they (the left) are going to pull out all the stops in discounting and smearing Republicans. Please people look at the values and morals of a given candidate and refuse to accept any of the petty garbage. This goes for the people on the right too.

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    • Mike777
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:24pm

      They have nothing else to talk about so its there default talking points.

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    • Merrick1
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 6:29pm

      Below are a couple of quotes from Saul Alinski’s book, “ The Rules of Radicals”. This book is the bilble of the progressive left, When they have no facts to back up their points, they attack and velify. President Barrack Hussein Obama ran as a unifier, and called himself the president of all Americans, Democrats and Republicans; as far as I’m concerned he has divided our country by vilifying everyone that disagrees with him.
      A quote from L David Alinsky, son of Saul Alinski: “Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” –Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky
      A couple of quotes from Saul Alinski’s book “Rules of Radicals”.
      “Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them. … Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves.” p.126
      3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
      13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’…

      “…any target can always say, ‘Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?‘ When your ’freeze the target,’ you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments…. Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the ‘others’ come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target…’

      “One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other.” (pps.127-134)

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  • stinkybisquit
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:13pm

    That isn’t his birth name; he CHOSE to change it to that. Blame him, not Palin.

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    • GardenoftheGods
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:35pm

      What was his given name?

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    • MadeInAmerica
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:53pm

      Barry Eve Soetoro

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    • Prospero
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:56pm

      His given name was Barry Soetoro. He changed his name to Barrack Hussein Obama so as to honor the Muslim tradition of his father.

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    • anigmanm
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:49pm

      maybe she meant to say Barrack Insane Obama, could just be a slip of the tounge

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    • iamhungry
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 2:47pm

      His birth name is Barack Hussein Obama II. You can see it on his ‘Certification of Live Birth’ that has been produced by Hawaiian state officials. You can easily Google that fact.

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    • stinkybisquit
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 7:50am

      I sand corrected; Birth name of B.H.O. From what I can discern, between the iffy facts, and the rumors that his real father is Malcolm X (?!?), when his mother remarried Lolo Soetoro, it was changed to Barack Soetoro, nickname Barry. When he was in college, he decided to be “a part of something bigger” (his own words) and go by B.H.O., and not use the nickname.

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    • 1776Federalist
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 10:53am

      So The Obamasiah has changed his name twice? If it was originally Obama, then he changed it to Soetero when he was ADOPTED by an INDONESIAN citizen, then changes it back to Obama in college (in his words “ to become a part of something larger”), then it appears that he purposely wanted the entire name to be applied to him. I would like to know how he is still considered an American citizen, when his father was a Kenyan citizen and his mother, being only 17 and incapable of providing him with citizen status in the USA due to her being a minor, married an Indonesian man who adopted him, (Now transferring his citizenship from Kenya to Indonesia), then he claims to be an American citizen without having to do anything to transfer his citizenship from Indonesia to the USA. He traveled to Afghanistan or Pakistan in the early 1980′s on an Indonesian passport (which implies Indonesian citizenship) when according to the laws of the United States, he could not have obtained an Indonesian passport legally if he was a US citizen. Dual citizenship is not allowed to US citizens, so did he commit fraud?
      The majority of Americans disagree with the placement of the mosque so close to the footprint of the twin towers. I saw a 60% figure posted. That is a safe figure as some polls placed it in the low to mid 70%. With the Muslims history of building “victory mosques” and with the “Cordoba” name associated with it, you only have to look at the history of Cordoba and the unjust treatment of the Christians by the Muslims after the Muslims conquered the area.
      I think that PickUp is either a liberal plant, an 11thyear college student still living in his mommy’s basement, or he works for a liberal blog or other biased media. He has all of the talking point together, and he can only wrap his mind around the things that go with the approved media bylines. He seems to have the partial truths available to those in the MSM, but he doesn’t seem to be able to remember history (the “Dubyah” label for Bush being used to make him sound stupid) or investigate beyond the talking points to find out the complete facts about an issue that show most of the liberal rants to be erroneous.
      Illegal immigration is a LEGAL issue, not a racial one. People of all races and nationalities cross the borders illegally.
      Obama included Hussein when he changed his name in college, so any use of it is not racial, bigoted or defamatory. .

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    • countzero
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 12:45pm

      Hahaha “IAMHUNGRY” – “Hawaiian State Officials” never ‘produced’ anything other than useless blather. The so-called COLB that is referred to could have been produced by just about anyone with moderate Photoshop skills. But you can Google it and see the image so hey, it must be true….

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    • iamhungry
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 8:22pm

      @StinkyBisquit, Thanks for taking a second look at that. Glad to see someone is bold enough to say they can be corrected when necessary. A rare trait on the internet. I salute you.

      @CountZero. No, you are embarrassingly wrong. I presume Dr Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health since 2002 and recipient of the Hawaiian Medical Association’s 2005 Presidents Award for Outstanding Contribution to the Medical Community, was also part of the Photoshop conspiracy? Do you really think the Republican party (or Hillary Clinton) would not raise such a possibility to win the presidency if there was a chance it was true?

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  • tobywil2
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:12pm

    Perhaps, if McCain had spent more time educating people on Obama’s character and associates we would would be in less trouble. Not out of trouble but in less danger. http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • Beth D
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:30pm

      Yes, yes, yes!!

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    • 1987patriot
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:48pm

      I could not agree more ! McCain was so worried about being “politically correct” that he let us all down. I believe we would all be better off if he had spoken up at the time.

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  • Cody32084
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:12pm

    Its only ok for the “right People” to use Barrys middle name

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 8:46am

      Yes. It is only proper for the “correct” people to use the occupant of the Oval Office’s full name. I have worked very hard to remember not to use it and finally have arrived at the place where I easily refer to him as “B.O.” When asked why I do that, I point out that we often use initials for Presidents, like JFK or LBJ, and the ever popular “W”. And I smile when I do so, too! See, I am so awesomely politically correct.

      Go, Sarah!!!

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  • AMERICANCITIZEN
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:12pm

    I love Sarah Palin!

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  • Mike777
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:12pm

    I’m so sick of these whinocrats.

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  • bkmollen
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:11pm

    That is his name isn’t it?

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  • teahugger
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:10pm

    mmm-mmm-mmm

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    • Katt
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:15pm

      He said we must be clear today – equal work means equal pay!

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:15pm

      Now, now, those were young children being indoctrinated. They are allowed, nay, TAUGHT to use “Hussein”.

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  • Zoe
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:09pm

    Restate your question for $500?

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  • El Paco
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:08pm

    Since when did Hussein become a swear word??

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    • moriarty70
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:39pm

      2003, when Sadam became the greatest threat to “Western Freedom(TM)” since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Seeing as the only time Obama’s refered to with his middle name is when people are critising him, common sense leads me to think it’s being used to draw a mental connection to the other Hussein in recent history.

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 7:33pm

      Since Beck said it was unamerican
      pay attention to your leader

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  • broker0101
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:07pm

    How dare she refer to our President by his full, given name!!!!!

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    • glassbeadlady
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 3:06pm

      Love the trolls…..they make our point about what is wrong with America, head back to huffy

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    • ME
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 5:10pm

      I say we just abbreviate his name to B.O. Yea that sums him up, now to get some pit stick and try to scrub his stench from this country.

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  • tobywil2
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:07pm

    since when did using a person’s name become a derogatory remark? If Obama dosen’t like his name, he should change it. http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • Iamfedup
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:24pm

      Do you mean change it again? Exactly how many names has he had – I’ve lost count!

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    • vic138
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:46pm

      One for each social security number, I guess.

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    • w4jle
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:09pm

      Only blacks may use the “N” word and only progressives the “H” word as they are able to divine your intent when you use it. It is ALWAYS racist when uttered by a non-progressive as is anything else that points to their idiotic agenda. The brouhaha over Laura Schlesinger had to be not only taken out of context, but twisted as well to make her look like a bigot. Obviously Sara Palen had to have a deep ulterior bigoted motive for pointing out the phony issue.
      Remember if you are not in power you cannot be a racist (Progressive definition). I guess that means blacks can now be racist. Nope! We change the definition as the situation changes.
      More’s the pity…

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    • Spring To Action Vote
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 3:28pm

      Remember He was B. S. Before he was B.H.O. So I guess you could say there is B.S. before the B.O. And we all know that stinks so far. So I ask what about the H.O. He seems to think Americans are his H.O. treats us like an unwanted step child.

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  • spendthrift
    Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:04pm

    So what‘s wrong with speaking a person’s whole name, are they ashamed of it?

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    • Freelancer
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:10pm

      Apparently so…. There was a huge backlash in Texas when they were considering using Obama’s full name in the new history books. The liberals went absolutely off the deep end when the more conservative board members wanted to print his entire name. The liberals called it an attempt to smear his name.

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    • 4theRepublic
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:12pm

      Yes, yes he is… But I think the DNC has more fear of it.

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    • amerbur
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:16pm

      Get over it. That is his name. Love it or leave it.

       
    • vic138
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:18pm

      The left used to make fun of Nixon’s middle name all the time. Richard Milhouse NIxon. What’s the big deal, its his name stupid.

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:21pm

      PICKUP, go pedal your BS somewhere else. You will be philosophically destroyed if you hang around here.

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    • pickup1988
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:23pm

      Sarah Palin, along with her far-right Fox News colleagues, has had a history of making bigoted remarks (example: defending Laura Schlessinger’s repeated use of the N-word), and her usage of President Obama’s middle name is only to re-enforce the “Kenyan, anti-colonial” stereotype of Mr. Obama that has been pushed by the likes of Newt Gingrich. To deny this shoes enormous naivety on your parts.

       
    • van
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:25pm

      I hear democrats and progressives using his full name almost everyday on the news. What’s the big deal?

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:28pm

      Yeah PICKUP, we got you the first time. Are those your only thoughts?

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    • The Monster
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:28pm

      The “anti-colonialism” comes straight out of Obama’s own autobiography “Dreams from my Father”. The way his Kenyan relatives described the British authorities‘ treatment of Obama’s grandfather informed BHO Sr.’s attitude toward Britain. That BHO Jr. returned the bust of Churchhill before his chair in the Oval got warm confirms that he has internalized that opinion.

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    • pickup1988
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:28pm

      VIC138, the big deal and why people find it offensive is that there is a strong racial divide in this country as seen by the illegal immigration coverage and the debate over the Cultural Center near Ground Zero. The rhetoric that has been used against Muslims has shown great hostility between us and ‘them,’ even more severe than it was following the attacks of 9/11. And the sad part is that Islam is a part of modern American culture and we shouldn’t disregard. Mocking President Obama’s middle name is not simply in good fun, it is part of creating a caricture of ‘foreigners’ or those people who we call ‘un-American‘ that should not be based on one’s name or religion.

       
    • Opus3010
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:29pm

      Pickup, so it was okay for him to include it in the inaugural, but no where else. Get over yourself, you can’t pick or choose the truth. Step into the sunlight, brother, and get cleansed or burned.

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    • pickup1988
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:30pm

      Excuse me, Broker0101, but is dissent not welcome in your place of discourse? I’m sorry, this is America, if you don’t like open and free discussion go somewhere else.

       
    • Freelancer
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:34pm

      “If you don’t like it, change the name….” Now it’s a “cultural center” LMAO!!!

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:35pm

      No, PICKUP, Fools are simply not suffered here. At all.
      P.S. Please cite for me one documented case of “hostility” toward a Muslim.

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    • Resolved
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:36pm

      How can you smear his name by printing it? It’s that easy???

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    • pickup1988
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:36pm

      Opus3010, of course there is nothing inherently wrong with saying the name Barack Hussein Obama. I think you’re missing the point– which is that Sarah Palin makes her living by creating division and saying things to get people hyped up. A lot of people on both political sides do this. So when she says Barack ‘Hussein’ Obama, is she saying it out of respect for the President because she really wants to emphasize his full name or is it because she wants people to view the President negatively? You decide. I do feel like its inflammatory though I’m not making a big deal about it. I do understand why people would think she is saying it to invoke negativity though.

       
    • vic138
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:41pm

      Hey PICKUP, what does having an islamic middle name have to do with ‘race’. And how is securing our borders xenophobic? Of course the people coming across are of different races. You’re spinning the argument in such a way that your logic is nonexistent.

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    • GENEBLISTER
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:43pm

      In speech or writing, I always refer to Barry as Barak Hussein Obama, never as President. He is not my president.

      The very idea that this…person…occupies the office rises like bile in my throat. November cannot come quickly enough!

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    • Mr.Owl
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:43pm

      It’s not shameful as a childrens song. Mm, Mm, Mm Barack Hussien Obama, he says we all must lend a hand to make this country strong again, Mm, Mm, Mm

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    • glassbeadlady
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:44pm

      It is his middle name and when it helps him he uses it very freely, why shouldn’t we the people under his reign use it?

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:46pm

      VIC, You‘ll be frustrated looking for logic with PICKUP’s argument. His argument is that conservatives are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic bigots. That is the beginning, middle and end of his argument. Evidence and logic be damned.

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    • Eagle07
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:49pm

      But it was ok when he was sworn in to use his full name what a hypocrit.

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    • Buck Ofama
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:49pm

      And what about the class of grade school children singing the song of praise to him with the constantly repeated line “mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussein Obama?” So then I guess it is perfectly alright for the left to use his name.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaWRXIdRcpI

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    • pickup1988
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:50pm

      I think the grouping of “terrorists” and “Muslims” into one single group as this Republican candidate did in the following ad is disgraceful and unquestionably going to cause some hostility: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QvKOdiyFaw

      A lot of media personalities have continually linked Park51 and terrorism even though the Cultural Center is being made by American Muslims for all Americans in New York City. And I don’t think its a coincidence that protests againsts mosques around the country have become more frequent as well as some even being vandalized as a result of this rhetoric toward Muslims.

       
    • Anonimouse
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:51pm

      Everybody ssssshhhhhhhhhhhh.

      Pickup is going to tell us what we can and can’t say.

      He’s a big believer in free speech.

      LOL!!!!!!!

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:58pm

      PICKUP, this site is littered with the cyber-corpses of your kindred spirits. Stick around and share their fate. It’ll be lots of fun, while it lasts.

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    • pickup1988
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:59pm

      Broker, I don’t think your judgements of me are accurate or helpful. You know nothing about me including my politics or my views. You have to resort to framing me as a certain way because discussion isn’t possible in your world without name-calling and insults. Its sad but to address an actual point, VIC, I think its like what Mr. Beck said on his radio program not too long ago (I’m paraphrasing). “Why would the President go by the name Barack if he was trying to relate with Americans?” Glenn asked. And I think that is the reason people call him by his full name– to create this sense of separation between ‘normal’, ‘traditional’ Americans and the ‘other people.’ Concerning illegal immigration, I do believe it calls for discussion and I respect anyone’s opinion on the matter. All I am saying is that often times we become irrational in our emotions as they can become inflamed and often these topics which require a great deal of sensitivity are terribly mishandled.

       
    • Freelancer
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:59pm

      Ummm NO PICKUP… Care to try again? The MOSQUE has been renamed a number of times after each name has been suspect. Did you even bother to find out that the address is NOT even 51? I didn’t think so. Not to mention that there are some SERIOUS questions as to the funding, motivation and persons behind its construction. The “Muslims” have caused their own problems by being very shady about the whole thing from the get-go. American’s are NOT that dumb and DO question the true intent simply because the answers to their questions are not forthcoming.

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    • Buck Ofama
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:00pm

      “A lot of media personalities have continually linked Park51 and terrorism…”

      And yet the imam of this victory mosque has links to terror organizations and will not denounce hamas for being a terrorist organization. And that campaign ad you referenced hits it right on the spot. It is a known fact that muslims build “victory mosques” on sites they have conquered.

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:04pm

      “A lot of media personalities have continually linked Park51 and terrorism…”
      PICKUP, did you know that part of the landing gear from one of the planes driven by one of those nice Muslims on 09/11/2001 actually hit the building currently standing at “Park51”? Didn’t think so.

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    • Freelancer
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:04pm

      OOPS! Pardon the apostrophe in the word AMERICANS…

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    • dragonfire420
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:14pm

      Why doesnt he just change his name (again) to Lennon Marx Obama? It would at least be an accurate name for him to have wouldn’t it?

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    • orkydorky
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:19pm

      That is his name isn’t it? Oh wait, could it be Barry? lmao.

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    • Oh, God!
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:22pm

      Hey pickup, that’s original! Let’s play the race card, no one has ever done that one before, NOT!

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    • ryonk
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:28pm

      PICkup1988, Here is a video for you to watch. Your gullability is really disturbing. The mosque is being built in it’s current location forone reason only. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg
      As for Sarah Palin stirring up all that you say, the only thing I can say is if the shoe fits wear it! The reason Obama supporters hate Beck and Palin is because they talk the truth, they say what average americans want to hear. You call her far right when in reality she is normal and you idiots are all far left from the main stream. Read about the real policies of what is going on. I have read more books since Glenn Beck started comparing the policies of Obama compared to FDR.

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    • President Obama
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:30pm

      Please, please… Let me be clear, and make no mistake, there is nothing wrong with speaking my name in its entirety. In fact, I invite all of you to say it often and say it with conviction. I am, after all, the Messiah.

       
    • orkydorky
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:33pm

      Hey Pickup, you need to read the instructions on your meds., the ones that say you might not make any
      sense after taking! I think you overdosed yourself!

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    • w4jle
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:36pm

      Pickup1988,
      In deference to the left we never used Harry Trumans middle name, you folks on the other hand always used the full name of Eisenhower and all following Republican presidents. In fact with the elder Bush you used both of his middle names. This makes as much sense as the nonsense you are spewing.

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    • RefudiateObama2012
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:38pm

      Pickup, before you show your stupidity, maybe you should go back and look at how LS used the word and then read Palin’s FB post supporting LS. Instead of relying what the hate sites say, get off your butt and actually get the facts.

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    • pickup1988
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:41pm

      Look, I really do understand the skepticism you all I have but let’s consider some things.

      First of all, Freelancer if that’s not the address then what is? And who cares? You make accusations about the funding of the project. Do you hold a group of American Muslims in New York City to the same amount of immense scrutiny that you do with the funding of any other church, mosque, or in this case, cultural center? Why not? Why not press to see the business dealings of any other private organization? Cause from what I can tell, there were quite a few crimes committed on Wall Street and a hell of a lot of Americans adversely effected. Or how about the private companies getting contracts in the Middle East and their connections with the media and the BILLIONS of dollars being made in profit during this war while American troops are maimed and killed. See, I have questions too. I’m angry as well. But do you see where all are focus and energy is going these days? Against a group of AMERICANS who have done NOTHING wrong and are simply being singled out because their MUSLIM? I never said Americans were dumb, and I agree, I wish more moderate Muslims would pubicly be heard fighting along side us in the war on terrorism. But let me ask you another question. Will you protest any Catholic church that is built within 2 blocks of a playground?

      BUCK OBAMA, what links does the imam have with terrorist organizations? Name one. What does his personal condemnation of Hamas have to do with anything? The imam has continually spoken against terrorism and the crisis of Islamic sentiment toward America. And lastly you say it is a “victory mosque”? How disrespectful to the American lives that were killed on 9/11. Shame on you. Many of them were Muslim living in New York City and you ought to feel terrible for telling their families that a place for worship near where their loved ones died is a ‘victory mosque.’ Oh, and guess what? There already was a mosque on Ground Zero. It was in the World Trade Center. Didn’t know that, did you?

      And yes, Broker I did that know that. And your point is what? I’m sure the American ashes of innocent Muslims are also on that building. You doing to desecrate them to?

      If you call yourself a patriot, someone who would die for American values, let alone fight for them in simple discourse on the internet, please… defend the constitution. This is a nation of FREEDOM and a nation of LAWS. That goes for ALL Americans, not just the ones who belong to your faith.

       
    • Bullcop34
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:41pm

      Just more of the left liberal media spin, just like it isn’t ok to speak the word “******” if you aren’t black but you can sell millions of records and spout “******” every other word and it’s ok. I stepped into the light and opened my eyes to just how bigotted the media is. I don’t buy the BS anymore. You can’t have it both ways. Readd more in the book, “The South Under Seige”

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    • Republic Under God
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:44pm

      @ Pickup,
      What connection does “Hussein” have with the “anti-colonial stereotypes?
      Also, I missed the part where anyone was mocking his middle name.
      It’s funny you denounce rhetoric in one breath and spew it in another, highlighting the red herrings that have been the liberal talking points on the issues:
      Perhaps the coverage of the illegal should have been like MSNBC accusing the Arizona Law of making illegal immigrants… illegal?
      Debate over GZM has racial lines? Really? Somehow I was mistaken and thought it had something to do with common sense, courtesy and bridge-building. That’s not to say that there aren’t anti-Islamists, and obviously, they are going to resist the GZM too. But, I think it is safe to say that the majority of the majority (you know the 60% who oppose the GZM ) are just offended by the proximity of the mosque to the site where radicals of the same religion slaughtered nearly 3000 Americans. Maybe we recognize that those that dawn the mantle of a Holy War have historically and MAYBE COINCIDENTALLY (because coincidence is about the only thing that will save most lib talking points, including the defense of Obama’s anti-capitalist ties) built a mosque on the ruins of those they conquered and MAYBE we refuse to give them that satisfaction. Mind you, a lot of people here prayed and worshipped side-by-side with Muslims and celebrated the religious leaders INCLUDING IMAMS at our 8-28 rally.
      Our problem is not with foreigners. Our problem is with the animosity toward the power, wealth prosperity and sovereignty of the United States. As a matter of fact you may find most of us welcome foreigners and L E G A L immigration. It infuses our country with a afresh appreciation of our liberties and with more diversity. Like my father. His country was taken over by socialists and fell into hyper-inflation (Chile in the 70’s). He knows what the rise of socialism looks like and truly values the freedoms we have here.
      Racially divided? I mean I see Obama specifically calling out Blacks and Hispanics. It seems libs like labels like African-American and Hispanic-American redneck/hick. We rather just say American. Division starts with categorizing those that we want to divide.
      The amazing people at the 8-28 rally extended nothing but love to my girlfriend and I (we are both what your ilk would refer to as Hispanic-Americans).
      The rally was important to us because we were watching our world through the TV. We saw CNN/MSNBC saying one thing about Tea Partiers (racists/hate and fear spewers) and what Fox news was saying (Average Americans). We decided to go see for ourselves. God Bless the 100’s of thousands of people who declared in deed who we were.
      Furthermore, I don’t think leaving Hussein out makes Barak Obama’s name sound any less foreign. Interestingly, the fact that someone named Barak Hussein Obama can be elected by the American People is further testimony against the very divide you invoke NOT to say his middle name.

      I welcome dissent :) It’s what I am doing!

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    • CoFX
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:45pm

      You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Just yesterday a post from Lordhelmet criticized another poster for calling the president “POTUS”. This was a “derogatory term”. This is apparently the same issue. The proper way to address the President is not to use POTUS, Hussein, or perhaps even Barack, since that is the name of the prophet Muhammed’s horse, and that would be an unfair implied connection to Islam. You need to use the term President Obama only. You should be ashamed that we are all so disrepectful to POTUS Hussein.

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    • Areyoukiddingme
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 1:45pm

      Maybe because of some of its meaning?

      Hussein – name meaning, origin = The name of a prominent person in Shiite Islam

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    • patriotwoman
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 2:05pm

      Pickup said: “Will you protest any Catholic church that is built within 2 blocks of a playground?”

      Please explain this remark Pickup. Are you inferring that Catholics can’t be trusted around children? To use your own words, “Do you hold a group of Catholics…to the same amount of immense scrutiny… Against a group of AMERICANS who have done NOTHING wrong and are simply being singled out because their (sic) CATHOLIC?”

      Aren’t you painting all Catholics with the same brush and accusing them ALL of being child molesters? Because it‘s obvious that’s the inference here.

      And by the way, you need to educate yourself about imam rauf’s connections. He is not a “moderate muslim”.

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    • Freelancer
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 2:10pm

      The street addresses for the Burlington Coat Factory encompass the numbers 45 through 49. The “51” designation refers to a verse in the Koran…

      ” O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide people who are unjust. ”

      It’s not that hard to find PICKUP….

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    • DanSt
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 2:27pm

      Hey pickup, since when did using one’s full name become a bigoted/racist rant?

      pickup blurted:
      Sarah Palin, along with ther far-right Fox News colleagues, has had a history of making bigoted remarks

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    • Fort Mill Joe
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 2:29pm

      broker0101… Your argument with Pickup reminds me of a scene from The Holy Grail, when King Arthur is fighting the Black Night. Watch you kneecaps.

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    • BaritoneBro
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 2:42pm

      I agree. Palin is just calling it like it is. Remember, we had to put up with the left using “dubyah” to lambast George W Bush.

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    • Miguel Saavadera
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 2:54pm

      Before the election the rule was ‘Thou shalt not use his middle name.” AFTER the Election not only did BHO use it, but so did others … however if a Republican uses it he is either racist or a Islamophobe… equally playing field here does not exist.

      Also, the left fears Palin hence they attack her for anything that doesn‘t fit their ’ideology.‘ If she wasn’t a ‘threat’ they would just ignore her in a ‘there she goes again,’ moment.

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    • Handsome Pete
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 3:12pm

      After saying “Barack Hussein Obama” did she snap her fingers three times while singing, “Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm!”?

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    • PatriotComeLately
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 3:24pm

      @Pickup you said “Broker, I don’t think your judgements of me are accurate or helpful. You know nothing about me including my politics or my views. You have to resort to framing me as a certain way because discussion isn’t possible in your world without name-calling and insults.” but is that not exactly what you did with your original comment about Palin?

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    • m2davis
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 4:01pm

      We sure heard George Herbert Walker Bush or William Jefferson Clinton enough times from the Libs.
      What is the big deal about Barry Heusein Obama.

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    • indy1
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 4:05pm

      It‘s funny how the lib media didin’t care that Hussein was dabbling in cocaine and Maxism when he was a youth.

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    • dwh320
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 4:09pm

      @Pickup1988

      Whats wrong with you my friend? Not a word she said was a racial insult or even spoken is a nasty way. She is 100% correct in saying Barack Hussein Obama. To make the stretch that that is a insult is something only a twisted brain could conceive.

      Following that logic then every time Reagan’s middle name was use it was done to insult the Irish. Or Nixon middle name was used only to insult the Quakers. Perhaps that logic professes even that Kennedy’s meddle name was used to insult Catholics.

      It is easy to see how that logic is flawed beyond reason. By advancing such a clearly flawed concept you are showing your true intention is race baiting and hate mongering. You attacks on Sara are sick attempts in the politics of personal destruction that Progressive Socialist have practiced for over 75 years. You should be ashamed of yourself. But shame is not a trait known to Progressive Socialist so I would have to say you acting true to form.

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    • Mr.G
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 4:12pm

      I’m just like Barry, except it is my first name I find I’d rather forget, love my middle name.

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    • t00nces2
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 4:34pm

      Pickup1988… Did you get all riled up when splash Kennedy called him Osama Obama?

      Do you spend an equal amount of effort visiting rap music web sites and calling the rap music industry out for using the same word over and over in songs peddled to our children?

      Me thinks not.

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    • t00nces2
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 4:38pm

      We don’t want you to confuse him with Barack Sven Obama

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    • Sheepdog911
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 5:47pm

      Didn’t the President get sworn into office as Barack Hussein Obama? Why in the world would it suddenly become such a curse word? Heck, I’ve gone by my middle name my entire life. I’m offended that he would be offended when his middle name is used.

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 7:28pm

      Hey Pick up
      Don’t pay too much attention to Broker. I’ve debated him several times. He usually just tells you that he’s smarter than you. If you insist on debating him, you won’t find much of a challenge. I’ve beat him up several times on this site.

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    • kspatriot
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 7:58pm

      Obama used his full name when he was sworn in as president. If it’s OK for him to use it then, there shouldn’t be a problem with anyone else using it now. His name is his name, get over it.

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    • Contrarian51
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 8:23pm

      Jeez, Pickup, a little intellectual honesty, please. I don‘t much care for Sarah Palin as a politician and certainly don’t want to see her as a Presidential candidate, but for a change, I thought her intent was actually very clear. She was using Obama‘s middle name as emphasis on the point that there has been a concerted effort to hide or paper over the man’s history and background, and that Palin was pointing her finger at the media for not doing their job on this. There wasn‘t a hint of smear in her tone or demeanor so unless you can prove you’re a mind-reader, try something else.

      Wait a second. Kreskin just called and he told me he read your mind and discovered nothing, but he thinks he has a lead on where you lost it so we’re rounding up a search party.

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    • davidp4660
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 8:35pm

      There is nothing wrong with saying his name. He used it when he took the oath of office. If it was good enough to use it then, it’s the same thing now.

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    • Slayer
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 8:46pm

      Look at Pickup all upset about Hussein’s name being used. But when the little mind-numbed Obamalets are singing their songs to Dear Leader, they’re expected to not only use the full name with reverence, but add an mmm mmm mmm…

      Stupid Liberals.

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    • DaytonConserve
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 9:14pm

      Simply put, when those who identify themselves as moderate peace loving muslims take up the task of removing passages from the Koran that seek the destruction of non-muslims, then we can begin to take comfort in believing that we are all engaged in honest dialog about improving relations between the different communities. Until then, silence speaks to truth.

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    • rixtar99
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 9:24pm

      pickup – you’re an idiot

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 9:28pm

      Wow…talk about LOOKING for something to attack Palin with.

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    • razorbackrookie
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 10:20pm

      Hey Pickup —– U say this about Palin “which is that Sarah Palin makes her living by creating division and saying things to get people hyped up”…..Why don’t you look at the above threads and look at yourself….You are the one hyping people up, have the most hated words in remarks, etc..etc..Reading your comments is like listening to the ED show on MSNBC, nothing by attacks and hate. America is a Republic, founded on faith and conservative principles, and the people’s liberty. The current Elites want to collapse the system because they don’t believe in Capitalism, how many video’s and remarks from them do you want me to show you to prove? GET OVER THE IDEA you voted for the WRONG PERSON, and take a step back and review what is best for our country going forward. WAKE UP!

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    • thegr8restoration
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 11:06pm

      libs are dumb

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    • Puppy
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 11:29pm

      Hum, smear one’s name with their name. I’m puzzled.

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    • VegasGuy
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 11:58pm

      “So what‘s wrong with speaking a person’s whole name, are they ashamed of it?”

      Remember these words: It is a tactic of political correctness.

      That’s what the Left does. They keep changing the tactics hoping to trap you into however they frame the issue. They have already enslaved two generations of poor people with their “caring” welfare programs. Don’t let them enslave you. It looks like Palin has already figured this out. It’s another reason I like her.

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    • CatB
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 12:51am

      When he decided to use it when being sworn in as PRESIDENT all bets are off! Obama legitimized the use of his middle name. Too bad McCain didn’t stand up to the baloney during the election and say “it‘s his name what’s the problem?”

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    • smugsmiley
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 1:34am

      Huh. Well, I’m probably as left-wing as humanly possible, but even I see no problem with that. I even find Palin’s use of “lamestream media” more unprofessional than naming the President by his full name. There are more valid points to get up in arms about than THAT. How is this thread so long anyway?

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    • phoenixbetrayal
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 7:18am

      I’m a little late in on this, but pickup has some good points. There is nothing wrong with using his middle name. My initial reaction to this was anger that Palin is getting attacked again. But the motivation behind using his middle name is where the problem is. At best it is akin to mommy chiding a misbehaving child, at worst it is specifically meant to subconsciously bring the association with Saddam Hussein and evil into minds.
      While I do agree that it is his name, why be ashamed? but…think of the few other people that we use three names for…John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald…assassins. Obama doesn’t deserve to be in that category yet, he’s just trying to assassinate the county, he hasn’t yet succeeded.

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    • nuttin left
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 7:20am

      If he doesn’t like his name why did he change it???????????????

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    • belleharbor
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 10:08am

      Insane obama get him out asap he is a complete flop and clown i cannot take any more of the obama family of corrupt goons

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    • camellia
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 10:09am

      The school children who were taught a “song of praise” about Obama used his full name – Barack Hussein Obama. I don’t remember hearing them (or their teachers) being called “racist” or “bigots” or anything of the sort. “Um Um Um, Barack Hussein Obama!” Ewwww….. creepy…

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    • txbigfoot
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 10:32am

      He was sworn in using that name.
      So why not. He’s ashamed of it and/or his lemmings are.

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    • grinthor
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 10:57am

      His name is a smeer, of a kind.

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    • BEAURYKER
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 10:58am

      Poor Pickup! He’s been ignored his whole life. He needs some love and respect, people.

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    • moelarrycurly
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 11:39am

      PICKUP whats the deal. Are you the first shift over there at media matters? What time does pubispencilman come in? I bet he’s got some great liberal talking points you can copy and paste from moveon.org etc. Also-please do your research about Newts ‘statement of his Kenyan’ origination’-It Never happened. If your going to just assume that based on an irrelevant statement Gibbs made in a press conference I’d like to see you actually quote what Gingrich said. Pubis was also on here yesterday trying to use out of context statements and one liners from the lefty websites ‘talking points’. Just a Friendly warning-These guys are well informed-and educated. They will shred you. So I suggest you ask your supervisor there at Media matters to give you an easier assignment. I would also state that it is the left’s attempt at making every issue in the public forum divisive by making everything about race and racists. Its just not working for you anymore-please refer to your little satanic Cloward and Piven manual for further instructions…

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    • VegasGuy
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 12:58pm

      Excellent post, moelarrycurly. Dead on.

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    • moelarrycurly
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 1:39pm

      And ‘Republic Under God’-God bless you and your family. Your all welcome at my table anytime. I wish I’d got to meet you at 8/28…

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    • Patriot nurse
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 4:51pm

      You Go Girl !!!!!!!

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    • IcareforAmerica
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 5:34pm

      I agree totally. All though my mother used to call me by my whole name when I did something wrong. Hummmmm…. I wonder if there is a connection. Barack HUSSEIN Obama Hummmmm.

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    • Chicago Ray
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 6:52pm

      I call him worse everytime I invoke his name rest assured, like Muslim Kenyan Born Usurping Hussein GhettObama for starters.

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    • Alydia
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 7:51pm

      Pickup1988: pickup1988
      Posted on September 23, 2010 at 12:23pm

      Sarah Palin, along with her far-right Fox News colleagues, has had a history of making bigoted remarks (example: defending Laura Schlessinger’s repeated use of the N-word), and her usage of President Obama’s middle name is only to re-enforce the “Kenyan, anti-colonial” stereotype of Mr. Obama that has been pushed by the likes of Newt Gingrich. To deny this shoes enormous naivety on your parts.

      Question? Who is talking about shoes?? Read your last sentence, dingy!

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    • AUTHOR22
      Posted on September 24, 2010 at 9:35pm

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      He needs all the help in smearing his name. He isn’t doing a good enough job by himself.

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