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Pandemic Possible? Scientist Genetically Modifies Bird Flu With Scary Results

Deadly Flu Virus Modified to Show Possibility of Human Transmissibility

The bird flu (H5N1) virus. (Image: Corbis via Daily Mail)

Five tweaks is all it took for a team of virologists at Erasmus Medical Center in the Netherlands to genetically modify the H5N1 virus — commonly known as bird flu — and make it something some have said should not have been created while others advocate its importance in transmissibility studies.

According to Science Magazine’s Science Insider, Ron Fouchier genetically modified H5N1 to be easily transmissible to ferrets, which are an animal that react in a similar fashion to humans with regard to the flu. Science Insider reports that a separated study conducted by virologist Yoshihiro Kawaoka at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and the University of Tokyo with H5N1 achieved similar results in terms of transmissibility of the genetically altered virus.

Science Insider has more:

Both studies have been submitted for publication, and both are currently under review by the U.S. National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity (NSABB), which on a few previous occasions has been asked by scientists or journals to review papers that caused worries.

NSABB chair Paul Keim, a microbial geneticist, says he cannot discuss specific studies but confirms that the board has “worked very hard and very intensely for several weeks on studies about H5N1 transmissibility in mammals.” The group plans to issue a public statement soon, says Keim, and is likely to issue additional recommendations about this type of research. “We’ll have a lot to say,” he says.

“I can’t think of another pathogenic organism that is as scary as this one,” adds Keim, who has worked on anthrax for many years. “I don’t think anthrax is scary at all compared to this.”

Some scientists say that’s reason enough not to do such research. The virus could escape from the lab, or bioterrorists or rogue nations could use the published results to fashion a bioweapon with the potential for mass destruction, they say. “This work should never have been done,” says Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey, and the Howard Hughes Medical Institute who has a strong interest in biosecurity issues.

Aside from a potential outbreak from the lab where the genetically modified virus is kept, Ebright is expressing his reserve over what’s called dual use research, or research that is meant to help the public, but could also be used against it. Here’s a video dialogue about dual use research from NSABB:

The point of both studies, according to Science Insider, was to see if this disease could ever have pandemic potential, which means it would need to be passable from human to human. In its current form H5N1 is not generally passed from human to human but from birds to humans. It is the flu that, according to Daily Mail, killed more than 500 people since 2004.

New Scientist reports that Fouchier recently presented his results at a scientific meeting about the flu, and here’s what the researchers did to modify the virus:

H5N1 Modified to be Passed Between Humans

They first gave H5N1 three mutations known to adapt bird flu to mammals. This version of the virus killed ferrets, which react to flu viruses in a similar way to humans. The virus did not transmit between them, though.

Then the researchers gave the virus from the sick ferrets to more ferrets — a standard technique for making pathogens adapt to an animal. They repeated this 10 times, using stringent containment. The tenth round of ferrets shed an H5N1 strain that spread to ferrets in separate cages — and killed them.

The process yielded viruses with many new mutations, but two were in all of them. Those plus the three added deliberately “suggest that as few as five are required to make the virus airborne”, says Fouchier. He will now test H5N1 made with only those five.

All the mutations have been seen separately in H5N1 from birds. “If they occur separately, they can occur together,” says Fouchier. Malik Peiris of the University of Hong Kong, a flu virologist, says this means H5N1 transmissible between humans can evolve in birds, where it is circulating already, without needing to spend time in mammals such as pigs.

Some scientists such as Peter Palese, a flu specialist at Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York City, New Scientist reports, have said they don’t think the virus would be able to mutate to be able to be passed from human to human, and therefore reach pandemic proportions. But others have said just because it hasn’t mutated to that point yet, doesn‘t mean it won’t.

Science Insider reports that the U.S. National Institute of Health funded this research. According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, the Food and Drug Administration already has a vaccine that could protect humans from this flu, especially in the event of it beginning to spread between humans.

Science Insider reports that the U.S. National Institute of Health funded this research and states that Fouchier expects “a media storm” to result once NSABB issues its statement and the papers are officially published.

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  • BobtheMoron
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:43pm

    Here comes the future. One nut thinking he/she is saving the earth will releases this or something like it. Only the prepared willl survive. http://www.survival.com

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 10:07pm

      There’s no way to prepare yourself for a deadly virus. Just pray that you have a very strong immune system. Those with weak immune systems will perish. This flu will be worse than the pandemic of 1918-1919.

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 10:29pm

      I don’t get it. Does this say that changing this DNA thingy that a virus can have different capabilities? Would that mean, by extension, that the DNA in living species could change, and give rise to a new species that would replace the ones that have become extinct?

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:09pm

      You need to google “Doctor Mary’s Monkey”…it is a true story…the polio vaccine (200,000,000 doses) given to AMERICAN school CHILDREN was tainted with a CANCER CAUSING VIRUS! A mistake was made while preparing the vaccines and rather than RECALL and be HONEST about the mistake…the 200 million doses were administered! THEN…the scientists decided to try to create an antidote to the cancer virus vaccine and caused further mutations to occur which MAY (some believe) have led to the creation of the AIDS virus…look it up…you will be shocked!

      FYI…We lost 3200 innocent people on 9/11…we loose 3000 people every day in this country to CANCER…Cancer is an epidemic in AMERICA! You have to wonder why?

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    • Munsonmanor
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:21pm

      This is kind of like the old joke about the 2 scientists. One comes in the lab screaming “I’ve finally done it! I’ve created an acid that will eat through anything!“ The other scientist says ”Great! What are you going to store it in?” I don’t think God will have to lift a finger, we’re going to destroy ourselves somehow in the long run.

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    • ErinLindsey
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:22pm

      Anthrax is a bacteria…not a virus.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:33pm

      @jzs
      You keep changing your picture but, your rhetoric remains the same.
      This is what this virus does. It changes its structure yet still kills. Only it kills the structure it has changed to. Just like progressives, communists and Marxist. They say they are for the Constitution and then want to change the Bill of Rights. It’s death to Freedom. Are you for the death of the Bill of Rights JeZuS?
      This virus, as with Communism, should never have been made. It’s as scary as your words. Come on back JeZuS. I’m waiting for you. This virus is a serious mistake of Mankind and should be nuked ASAP along with the people and all paperwork associated with it. What do you think? Do you want to live with this thing in your backyard? By “backyard” I mean the Planet Earth…

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 12:08am

      @ErinLindsey
      Either way… both will kill you. Take your pick; death by a virus or a bacteria. I prefer death by natural causes and not scientific research for the destruction of the Human Species.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 12:18am

      Hey JZS,

      New pic huh?

      Does not look like a very diverse crowd?

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 12:40am

      Yawn… REALLY tired of being “scared” by doomsday and pandemic folks.
      SARS, Bird Flu, West Nile, Anthrax, Swine Flu.
      We’re all still here.
      Keep your trust where it belongs (in Christ) and let what happens, happen.
      We’re all going to die at some point anyway.

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:45am

      ERINLINDSEY, if you had read the story, it is about a genetically modified H5N1 Flu Virus, not the Anthrax bacteria. They are comparing this modified virus’ danger level to Anthrax. Stating that it could be more deadly than Anthrax. Paul Kein states, I don’t think Anthrax is scary at all, compared to this.

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    • rdietz7
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:28am

      It’s all about the pestilence in the last days. I’d rather just get shot rather than go like that.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:00am

      The-Monk

      I have heard it said that, bio warfare is the poor mans nuclear bomb. I believe it. We can stop research, but they won;t stop their research in Moscow, Pongyang, Tehran or other places.

      My first thought of an outbreak of avian flu virus is that a person would be wise to immune suppressing drugs like transplant patients have. I figure a person would need 1 to 2 weeks worth. By that time the immune system should have cleared the virus without the over the top immune response that wipes everything.

      Metaphysically speaking, studying leprosy, rabies & avian flu is very instructive. One can bring away a lot of lessons.

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    • ramburner
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 5:37am

      @AZDEBI; Our government has tried everything it can think of to prove Cancer is caused by some mutation or another. They refuse to accept it can be CURED by anything Natural. They MUST find a drug that they can Patent, so they can claim they have cured it! Bottom line; it is ALL ABOUT MONEY! You are a number and the medical community is NOT on your side! They don’t care about you. The TRUTH is, the One World Government crew, calling itself The New World Order including the U.N. is looking to exterminate as many people as possible; see http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_guidestones?currentPage=all, where the Ten Commandments for the New World Order have been written. The First commandment is to maintain the population of the world to less than 500 Million people. See these stones and listen to the commentary at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cWYDWlwqWw How can this be done? By creating viruses that can quickly make the world population sick and die? By genetically altering our food supply seed, like Monsanto did with BT Corn that modifies the bodies immune system such that natural bacteria used to digest food begins to manufacture deadly poisons instead and we kill ourselves! How about medical incompetence? I watched my father-in-law die in the hospital of simple fibrillation during a heart attack, when all he needed was a shock from a defibrillator, but I did not know how to administer it. Yes, we are only numbers. No one cares for us but God.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 6:36am

      Think “The Stand” by Steven King. A deadly virus with 99% death rate accidentally released because a man wanted to get his family away and safe. Only 1% survival rate, because they happen to be immune to it. Not so much fiction anymore?

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    • simpleton
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:03am

      @JZS I guess that’s possible. When scientists in white lab coats are intelligently designing the necessary changes.

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    • Countrygirl1362
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:05am

      I am sure as soon as some drug company comes up with a vaccine they will find a way to have it released.

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    • sdeakins
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:15am

      Would be a lot less expensive if Iran just started doing research like this instead of all that nuclear stuff.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:44am

      Yea here comes the future…false-flag bioterror attacks against the American People and the planet perpetrated by corrupt governments, all so they can take our freedom and sovereignty.

      They’re gonna release this on the populace. Guaranteed.

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    • caveman74
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 10:08am

      aids originated out of affrica. not polio vaccines in the us. While it is stupid to try to make bugs more deadly there is no reason to fear monger. Viruses adapt to survive, as do animals. When a virus learns to feed on an animal you have an influx of mortality (usually below 50%) and the surviving population goes on to produce offspring more capable of fighting off the virus. When man tries to intervene in this process the results are bad. Look at chicken pox. People who have not fought off chicken pocks in their youth due to vaccination are more likely to contract shingles in their old age because their body never developed the mechanism to fend off the similar illness

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 10:21am

      MONK, yes, the mutation(s) that allow viruses to spread through the air is pretty frightening. If a virus like Ebola could spread through airborne particles like a cold virus, the world would be in a lot of trouble very quickly. Hey, did you know whales have vestigial leg bones? Now why would a whale have those?

      As for your metaphor, I give it a D-. Too forced. Stretched way too thin. Next time, try using cancer for your comparison. It’s a little overused, but not so lame.

      Billy, actually I changed it a week ago but the website just now put it up. I guess they check those things. Anyway, you don’t like it? It looks better when it’s not so small. I’m just trying to stay ahead of my impersonator j z s.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 10:21am

      Another man-made virus, just like AIDS and human papillova virus.

      I think we should send in drones to wipe out their labs. They are more of a threat to mankind than the worldwide caliphate ideology Muslims are.

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 11:54am

      Now vaccines can be raised against a potentially deadly form of transmissible H5N1. Bird flu that gets passed to humans multiplies and propagates in the lower lung. The mutations that occur in the virus that make it airborne are mutations that allow for upper respiratory manifestation and infestation. The lower lung infection doesn’t get “coughed out” like the upper. A single nucleotide change (mutation) causes the bird flu to become human compatible. Two to three alternate amino acid changes and it becomes airborne.

      Now that scientists know the location within the coat protein of the virus that the mutations occur, drugs can be made to combat the disease. Before they had no idea, so if by chance a human to human transmissible form of the bug were to develop, we wouldn’t be prepared. Now we can be.

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    • Leader1776
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 12:07pm

      @JZS
      Mother Nature isn’t that smart. Why natural selection takes hundreds to thousands of years (if at all) to affect this type change. These scientists did it in months.

      But your point wasn’t about viruses ….. was it? Darwin knew there were glitches in his theory. Selection pressures will cause something ………… we haven’t PROVEN what that something is. Too many intermediate species that have never been found. Chuck thought they would have been found by now. Didn’t happen for lack of trying.

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:44pm

      5 little tweaks is all it took.. But we can’t cure cancer or aids..(cough bullsht) Man kinds Greed is our biggest enemy.

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:50pm

      @texas
      The difference is that fighting both HIV (not the symptomatic AIDS) and cancer with the immune system would mean having the body attack itself. Obviously that’s not good. Talk to anyone with Lupus. Antibodies raised against the pathogens intercept the pathogen. HIV is enveloped with host tissue and cancer IS host tissue. You can’t fight against that using the immune system unless you find something extremely unique to the affected cells/pathogenic bodies.

      There have been recent reports about finding such markers with HIV but no medical studies have been carried out. Also, vaccinations for HIV would be a plausible research area, but after the debate over HPV vaccinations, how do you think the HIV vaccination debate is going to go?

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    • BloodSweatandTears
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 6:14pm

      Remember how George Bush was so concerned about the swine/bird flu? How we all had to get our vaccines, and people were rioting over the limited supply? I don‘t know which drug company supplied them but I’m sure the politicians loaded up on that companies stock beforehand….just saying.

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:37pm

      Leader1776 says, “Mother Nature isn’t that smart.”

      Leader, I like your post. I see the website didn’t post my first reply to you with regard to “intermediates.” That’s okay. I’ll take another tack. I disagree with you. Mother Nature is the smartest thing going whether you are an athiest or believer in a God. Mother Nature resolves every contradiction and resolves every problem. Mother Nature allows species to die when Her environment no longer supports them, and then creates new creatures to replace them. Mother Nature is dispassionate. She lets species rise and fall.

      The human species is unique in that they are able to make conscious decisions and can control to some degree their environment, their relationships with others of the same species with whom they compete for the same territory and resources.

      Mother Nature is smarter than all of us, but she’s given us a chance. The rest is up to us.

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  • liberum1776
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:41pm

    Wow, let me think here for a second…yea, done. Some silly group of scientist weaponize “bird flu”. I recall the Russkies did the same with smallpox back when the USA decided to stop immunization for it. Interestingly the Russkies succeeded in doing some really good genetic research AND they created one hell of a bug. The reason for their research wasn’t a result of “Hey, let’s see what other methods we can use to destroy every living human“ but rather ”Crap, we can’t afford the nukes anymore….it is much cheaper to do genetic research and weaponize biologicals”.

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    • james4d
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:32pm

      Not that long ago, in the big picture, the United States Government gave blankets, laden with small pox to the native Americans. Nothing ever seems to change.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:55pm

      @James — that story was debunked w/Ward Churchill.

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  • THEBEEFMASTER
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:38pm

    Shades of Stephen King’s “The Stand”

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    • Nathaniel Horn
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:48pm

      So many threats today that you don’t know which one of them will materialize. Maybe a perfect storm. As a society we do seem to have a death wish. In every sphere you turn to you can see rampant self inflicted wounds. Almost seems like mass suicide…

      Some will survive to carry on. DNA researchers say that 80 thousand years ago the human race was reduced to a “bottleneck” of only a thousand individuals. Almost extinct. Luckily all of this chaos is actually known by God down to the last molecule. As stupid but outlandishly arrogant humans we really have not a clue. Watch and see what God does. Whatever it is it will be elegant beyond comprehension.

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    • CynicalPatriot
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 12:10am

      True.

      This is the reason I don’t consider the possibility of a zombie outbreak/apocalypse to be all that far fetched. What started as fantasy could become reality because you know that somewhere, right now, some madman is working on a zombie virus.

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  • lel2007
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:38pm

    Well thank you Mr. Scientist for creating yet another threat Mother Nature’s been a tad slow in producing herself.

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    • quickstudy
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:29pm

      The human brain is “of nature” so she was right in there.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:47am

      It’s not nice , to mess with mother nature.
      They will keep screwing around with all these kind of bugs.
      And someone will weaponize it.
      And I’m guessing soon . Then the genie will be out of the bottle,
      and millions will die.

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    • Carter John
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:16am

      Mother Nature provides the basics it’s up to humanity to destroy its self.

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  • BpSitRep
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:36pm

    Scientist are fools. They can not create things for the greater good of mankind, but only can create items of destruction. Scientist are greedy fools as well, for the money they get for their ‘Frankenstein’ work, is the only reason they continue creating paths of destruction. Some people here mentioned justly so, several movies of contagion, zombies…..a friend of mine in the USAF, was shown by a USMC Staff Sgt, a mock set up of…..‘Walking Dead’ scenario, complete with soon to be bitten victims that the Marines have to rescue. SSgt instructed this USAF Officer, that ‘head shots’ only is what is allowed to ‘pass’ that course. http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies_novella.htm Ha ha ha….just fun and games at the CDC ???!!!

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    • wbalzley
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:06am

      Science can be used to both kill and to heal…the same science that gave us atomic bombs also gave us life-saving medicines like penicillin…knowledge is a double-edged sword, we must learn to use it wisely…

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:45am

      They’re creating plagues on purpose for population control.

      They’re gonna release this on us after sitting in a lab and manufacturing it.

      They should be arrested for for manufacturing Biological Weapons for terrorist action.

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  • SAYNOTOSOCIALISM
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:33pm

    This, among many other things are being put into place to coincide with the Mayan calender… gotta remember, NEVER let a crisis go to waste…

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  • GTH
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:32pm

    Let r rip! Ain’t scared…

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  • Diego Roswell
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:27pm

    If they can “manufacture” the virus, they can “manufacture” the vaccine.

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:44pm

      And make buko bucks on it!

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    • Bakko Bomma
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 10:14pm

      Exactly

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    • james4d
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:33pm

      The article states that they already have the vaccine ready for that strain. So, no worries!

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 12:13am

      @james4d
      No worries! Except you and I won’t get it. We’ll be dead and the Georgia Guide Stone will come true.

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    • KAdams
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:37pm

      ‘Bakko Bucks’! At any rate, all of you(maybe not people here, but everyone else) that have been getting your flu shots like good little sheeple already have the basic ingredients for the recombination. It’s not mutation, it’s recombination. The virus has ‘tags’ and they combine to make new new strains. Once you get a certain strain, it will recombine with the ‘attenuated virus’ already present in your own bodies. The people dumb enough to get flu shots will be the ‘weaponizing’ agent, not the birds.

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  • The BRAIN
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:25pm

    It was a (natural) virus that killed the dinosaurs. That is what also ALWAYS kills sentient beings and why no aliens have ever escaped from their solar systems to explore the rest of their galaxy. They get JUST smart enough to kill themselves and have to start from scratch again.

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  • EMM1969
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:25pm

    Idiots playing God. Surprised this got attention unlike XMRV.

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  • jb.kibs
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:23pm

    these scientists are pathetic… what “Good” were you trying to accomplish by mutating virii again?

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  • EastTexas
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:23pm

    People playing GOD.Nothing good can come of this

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  • ares338
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:23pm

    We have just enough knowledge to wipe out humanity! It’s what we do.

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  • wbalzley
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:22pm

    Stephen King WAS RIGHT! Captain Trips is here…the dark one follows…

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:30pm

      Thank goodness we have “scientists” like this! How could we manufacture deadly diseases to use against one another without them? What would government instability or rouge governments be with out the help of these fine Nazis? and all at tax payer expense. What a bargain.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:59pm

      Me thinks God had it figured before Mr.King

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  • NoRoomForSocialismHere
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:21pm

    I thought that was the number to the Mexican Swine FLu that came over in 2004 after they sent a Mexcian boy to Texas to be saved. Then it spread all around.

    They covered the original name up with the H? number which was for another flu already named. Govt did not want free trade and touisim to Mexico to stop for just the measly ol’ flu. Many died becasue of profit and free trade, only a begining I think

    IT IS THE MEXICAN SWINE FLU dont let them fool you again!

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    • XavierD
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 10:43pm

      That was H1N1 that happened in 2009. “H1N1” and “H5N1” are subtypes of the flu virus. The flu virus mutates quickly which is the reason that flu shots are not 100% effective.

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  • Dabldo
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:20pm

    Geeeee! Can we make it any easier for the terrorists??? While i knew some of this, i was hoping they didn’t !

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  • fflsuun
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:19pm

    12 Monkeys, The Stand, Outbreak.. If not this one, another.
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.
    T.S. Eliot

    “Consider God’s handiwork; who can straighten what he hath made crooked?” -Ecclesiastes 7:13

    “I not only think that we will tamper with Mother Nature, I think Mother wants us to.” -Willard Gaylia.

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  • Rob_M
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:15pm

    Why are we making these again?

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:24pm

      I want to know that as well; now the genie is out of the bottle, for the only thing that makes something difficult to make or manufacture is the very first model, such as with this bird flu strain, and now anyone who has enough know how and gets the info can unleash a potential pandemic of massive proportions — say between the post WW1 ‘spanish flu” to the ‘black death’ of middle ages Europe.

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  • The10thAmendment
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:14pm

    The science of alchemy. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what enlightened meat heads scientistics (not to be confused with SCIENTISTS) are.
    You you tamper with the creative force of Almighty God, bad things will happen.

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  • Alucard
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:14pm

    Play with fire and you are bound to get burned. It’s one of life’s most basic lessens yet some never learn it.

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    • NoRoomForSocialismHere
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:24pm

      Its the Mexican Swine Flu not bird flu. They swapped the name to keep up trade with Mexico and killed hundreds as it spread around the world because of visiting Mexico

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  • Jukes
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:14pm

    Just imagine what we DON’T know about. I think this just shows you how “godless” we have become and a people. Research is important but somethings it is just evil doings by evil men, to allow others evil men the opportunity to inflict their control over us

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:12pm

    A pandemic is fine with me, we already have zombies.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:12pm

    Liberal Scientist: I have created a flu that will kill all conservatives. BWAAAAHAHAHAHA.

    Conservative Scientist: I have created a cancer that will only attack and kill liberals. Nuck nuck nuck.

    Christian Scientist: I don’t believe in doctors or vaccinations, I will just pray.

    Cockroaches: Dang, who’s going to make us Twinkies now.

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  • Alan
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:11pm

    Sounds like nukes are safer than this crud.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:08pm

    If “scientists” had a way to create a Black Hole… that would suck the Electrons out of the Earth… they would try… for the sake of Proof & Fame! Educated Idiots!

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    • SERUM
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:04pm

      C’mon people! It’s the only way these guys can score with chicks!

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    • james4d
      Posted on November 28, 2011 at 11:36pm

      If they can invent “flux capacitor” , then they can create a black hole. Geeez!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:15am

      The flux capacitor already exists.

      It’s called a memristor (memory resistor).

      It joins other fundamental circuit elements like the resistor, capacitor, inductor, and the vacuum tube (transistor).

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