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Paper or Plastic? L.A. Moves to Ban Paper and Plastic Bags

Paper or Plastic? L.A. Moves to Ban Paper and Plastic Bags“Paper or plastic?”

If you’re the type of person who freezes up with indecision every time you’re asked that question, consider moving to Los Angeles — the city may decide for you.

“A Los Angeles City Council committee moved forward Wednesday with a plan to end the use of paper and plastic bags at supermarket checkout lines, saying such a move would spur consumers to switch to more environmentally friendly reusable ones,” the Los Angeles Times reports.

By arguing that banning bags is just as important as banning smoking, the city’s Energy and Environment Committee has advanced a plan to ban bags at some 7,500 stores.

The proposal went forward with total disregard for plastic bag manufacturers and their employees.

“I will be losing my job, losing my insurance. Please take that into consideration,” said Norma Fierro, an employee of Crown Poly, a company which expects to layoff between 20 and 130 employees if the ban in approved, according to the Times.

Paper or Plastic? L.A. Moves to Ban Paper and Plastic Bags20-130 employees? That’s okay: it’s not like we’re in the middle of a faltering economy where even an investment of $5 million dollars can barely muster up 15 permanent jobs; saving the world from shopping bags if far more noble endeavor.

Well, maybe that’s unfair. Perhaps it didn’t occur to the city council that people might lose their jobs over the bag ban.

“Councilman Paul Koretz said he expected that Crown Poly would need to eliminate only a small number of positions,” the Times reports. Wait — the city council is aware the ban will result in layoffs?

Wow.

Okay, so aside from the expected firings, what‘s the city’s plan to implement the ban?

The Times explains:

Under the proposal, the council would still need to draft an ordinance and initiate an environmental review of the bag phaseout. Once the ordinance is in effect, city officials would provide six months’ warning to stores — including supermarkets and other retailers that sell food — that plastic bags would no longer be permitted.

Once the plastic bag ban is in place, supermarkets would be required to charge 10 cents for each paper bag. Six months later, paper bags would be prohibited as well, said Koretz, who wrote the proposal.

Unsurprisingly, the ban is being enthusiastically supported by environmentalist groups who say the vast majority of plastic bags don’t get recycled properly and are littering the city and ocean. They argue the ban will force consumers to use reusable bags.

“People will adjust,” councilman Dennis Zine said. “They’ll adapt.”

Paper or Plastic? L.A. Moves to Ban Paper and Plastic BagsOr we’ll just try to carry everything all at once…which is what we do half the time anyway.

And its gets even better. Mark Daniels, Vice President of Sustainability and Environmental Policy for Helix Poly, wrote in a statement (via the Daily Caller):

The proposed policy will have no real impact on litter, instead it will only force residents to purchase less environmentally-friendly alternatives like reusable bags, nearly all of which are not recyclable, are less sanitary, are made in China using foreign oil, and often contain heavy metals.

Worse, bag bans inflict a regressive tax on the disadvantaged, impose a burden on small businesses, and are a threat to local manufacturing jobs.

But despite these reasonable objections, it doesn’t look like the council has any plans to abandon its pursuit of a bag-free city. In fact, some council members want it take a step further.

“Andrea Alarcon, president of the Board of Public Works, had urged the panel to embrace a complete ban [as opposed to a phaseout], saying paper bags lead to deforestation,” the Times reports.

Really? We guess this means the next time we’re asked to choose between paper or plastic, what we’re really being asked is whether we’d rather destroy the ocean or level a forest.

Decisions, decisions…

Comments (216)

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  • geminicontender
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:25pm

    How will milk be packaged? Water?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:35pm

      @geminicontender
      Are you expecting to be able to buy milk or water in the near future? I’m not…

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:15am

      They should use hemp. Stuff grows like a weed.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:30am

      Ah, the People’s Demokratic Republik of Kalifornia.

      A shining example of Progessive Socialism you won’t find closer than New York, or Europe.

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    • barnsy
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:59am

      Im glad the LA council is adressing the city’s most important issues.In a bankrupt city overrun with crime and illegals, banning shopping bags and outlawing footballs on the beaches would be my top priorities.

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    • MS-GlenNBC
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 1:01am

      1. Wait until a Turtle gets his head caught in one of those reusable bags.

      2. Wait until people start dying from salmonella poisoning. Dirty Reusable Bags sitting in your trunk with dried up Chicken Juices and sour milk collecting bacteria at 110 deg F.

      3. Wait until these become the litter you see around town.

      Why not ban Littering??????

      Why not have a $1,000.00 fine for littering??????

      Because stupid People do stupid things…..

      Lets ban potato chip bags…
      Lets ban Fast food containers
      Lets ban everything…….

      How about Banning Liberals? Communists? Marxists? Socialists? Democrats?

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    • barnsy
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 1:13am

      Dont forget to ban the trans fats and salt in restaurants!… maybe on tomorrows agenda.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:23am

      You cannot stop… Lemmings!

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:58am

      More importantly, what will Debbie Wasserman Schultz wear when the bags are banned?

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    • disgustedAmerican
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 4:02am

      Barnsey, you are correct… Why care about the bigger problems like the poor and destitute, when they can fight between plastic and paper… They are all hypocrites that have no real care in the world for who needs real help, only what can line their pockets. Same as the lady that runs a carbon tax company in CA. She charges a “guilt” tax for carbon emissions while at the same time driving a Range Rover. Blatant black and white hypocrisy and profiting from it. Sad……

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 5:47am

      Welcome to the United Soviet States of America. Or, Totalitarian Communist America. Whatever. What’s so very intriguing about this is, what about all the plastic packaging that foods come in at the same supermarkets? Ever notice how many things are packaged in plastic?

      This is about CONTROL. Not about anyone’s environment. Take it to the Supreme Court. It seems everything will end up there anyway since the leftists seem to have NO IDEA how to govern the USA.

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    • 4xeverything
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 6:28am

      …and still waiting (for the Big One)…

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 6:46am

      Just wait till they try to ban breathing because of the co2. Can’t wait till that 10.0 knocks them off the map.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 6:49am

      Please God let California slide off into the ocean…and take these idiots with the dirt…

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 7:00am

      @Gemini

      Correct. These brainy nitwits just don’t think objectively. They are driven by emotion and vague ideals.

      It was tried here in NZ a couple of years ago. It lasted a few months while it dawned on everybody just how stupid the whole idea was. Here, it wasn’t the same as an outright ban. The supermarkets charged ten cents per bag (making an obscene profit on their environmental position) and copped an appalling amount of flak from harried shoppers.

      My own protest involved $200 worth of groceries and when they insisted that I had to pay for the bags, I refused and walked away leaving everything at the checkout.

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    • IndyGuy
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 7:34am

      Frisco mentality has infected L.A……Now the 2 cities are trying to outdo the others absurdity…

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    • kindsoul
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 8:18am

      @exrep……. ROFLMAO

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 8:36am

      Never heard of BYOB?

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 8:41am

      Exrepublisheep
      “They should use hemp. Stuff grows like a weed”

      Yeah then when all the liberals get back from the store where they used food stamps, they can smoke it and become even more useless than they already are.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 9:35am

      too bad all the idiots would not just die and then we can all be free of idiocy.

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    • Icnivad
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 9:54am

      Let’s ban breaking the law. That always works. ;P

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  • Jase
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:25pm

    The result of this idiocy will be more shopping carts being taken home and left on the street.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 7:04am

      Maybe the Leaders of LA are smarter than everyone else: To get rid of the Smog…. they ban Oil Drilling (seeking to raise Gas to over $10 pg)… they limit water to farmers as a protection of endangered species (limiting food)… so in the end, few people will be able to live there and the Mexicans will go home… thereby the Smog goes away!

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:47pm

      As bad as the water in central valley is-please God let us get rid of Obama and his destruction team- there is a worse problem. What will people use to clean up dog poop when they walk their dogs? Without plastic bags where I live , it would get really ugly. Everone in this little city has a dog or dogs.

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  • oldironsides
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:18pm

    next we ban all inorganic food and all packaging so that no bags will be needed – you can shop 1 turnip at a time – all vehicles that will allow for transport of more than 1 turnip will be banned from the city. This policy will help the environment AND the obesity problem at the same time. These policies will not apply to those politically connected or associated with approved unions. So let it be written, so shall it be done

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    • Fed up in Bama
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:54am

      Save the enviroment and before it’s all accomplished, they’ll all die in a massive earthquake. What are they saving again?

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  • Rpfoster
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:17pm

    Paper or Plastic? L.A. Moves to Ban Paper and Plastic Bags; or people will move out. Does the State not understand why it is in the toilet? Given a choice people will move elswhere.

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    • Darkstar58
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:14pm

      my new house cleared Monday!

      And let me tell you, its:
      Twice as big
      Half as much money
      In a drastically safer city
      With unbelievably better views and nicer surroundings
      In a city with less then half the unemployment rate
      In a State with common sense laws

      …so long LA; hope you enjoy the destruction you created!

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  • geminicontender
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:16pm

    I say buy your three hundred dollars worth of groceries with no way to take your goods home. If they cannot bag your groceries for take home do not pay and leave the groceries on the belt. Make the store restock all of the items they refused to bag. Soon they will learn who runs the store.

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    • ICRedifURBlue
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:21am

      Was thinking exactly the same thing…….

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    • TheBurningTruth
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 5:54am

      So your solution is to “make the store pay”? Penalize them for the city council’s stupid ban? You really are an idiot. If you wanted to make your point, try doing something that would penalize the city council such as vote them out. Or, if you’re really daring, bag up some trash without any identifying addresses or names and dump it at city hall.

      The solution here would be to buy a box of kitchen trash bags. Then, open it up at the check and use one of those to bag your groceries. Take the box home, and bring in a couple of those bags when you next shop. Then, take a spare down to city hall, and bag the head of council member.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 7:05am

      That’s what a lot of us did here. That, and holding up the checkout line while you complain to the supervisor. It worked.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 7:40am

      @ burning…so you are saying rather we should all just comply rather than illustrating the wrongness of an tyrannical government?

      I don’t suppose if enough stores were inconvenienced that they would then pressure the council (as well as the voices of the average Joe Citizen) to see the error of their ways?

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    • chewfatlip
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 8:03am

      @burning Then the city council will ban plastic kitchen bags…..just wait and see.

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    • Darkstar58
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:23pm

      That really is foolish. All it does is punish the business more for something that is out of their hands.

      If you really want to make a difference, get an activist group up and running. Send the group out to all the super markets with cases of Plastic Bags which are handed out to everyone as they walk in the store.

      Let the Government chase common-sense with their illogical Laws. Soon they will ban loitering in front of Stores, so you move to the sidewalk. Then they will have to ban standing on sidewalks, or giving items away to others. If they ban giving things out, start charging a penny for bags.

      It could become a fun little game, and it will almost certainly result in a much higher trash rate then if the markets were just handing them out themselves, so you can always take comfort in their law doing the exact opposite of what they intended!

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:16pm

    I had a feeling that wearing Cargo Pants would come in handy some day….

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  • PeachyinGA
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:13pm

    Ding Ding! Next stop Crazy Town, L.A. Everybody off! No paper or plastic. Congratulations California. Couldn’t happen to a better state. I’ll never knowingly spend another dollar that goes to your state. Sorry for the normal people that live in CA, but my advice is to move.

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  • jzs
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:11pm

    At risk of some backlash from some of the readers here, I don’t think this is such a bad idea. Many European countries (I know, Europe is mostly a bunch of Communist evil people) charge you for bags at the checkout line if you don’t have your own, although the bags they charge you for are reusable.

    Face it. Some company makes those plastic bags you take your groceries home in and then they go straight into your trash can and then to a landfill. Multiply the number of people in this country, about 300 million, by the number of plastic bags they get and then throw away – let’s say two – and that’s 6 million of those plastic bags that go into landfills every week. Think for a minute about what the amount of landfill needed to hold 6 million bags. A lot.

    I expect to get slammed. But if people all carried those cheap reusable bags in their car, and got into the habit of carrying them into the store with them, that would be 6 million less of those plastic bags a week that we’d have to bury in the ground. I’m not making so much a “save the environment” point as a “what the f are we going to do with all this trash” point.

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    • PeachyinGA
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:15pm

      JZS. Good prediction. Consider yourself slammed.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:22pm

      @jzs
      Any modern community in the USA already has a weekly recycling pickup program at every home. This makes any “paper or plastic” garbage issue moot.
      Oh, just like you JeZuS…. moot.

      Hold on… I feel a big one trying to take the bait… ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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    • oldironsides
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:24pm

      may I store the reusable bag that I use to clean up my dogs diarrhea at your place ?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:30pm

      @jzs
      You’re so funny. It‘s too bad you don’t have a mirror where you could look back into yourself and see what most everyone else sees.

      BTW.. You didn’t answer my Monk question about, “The Ugliest Thing In The World” from my other post that you were too scared to answer. Care to answer now?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:39pm

      @jzs
      C’mon back JeZuS; I know you’re heeeeerrrrreeeee!

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    • onetoomany
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 1:01am

      Ok, dummy. Millions of those people reuse those bags to…carry their lunch in, wrap up dirty diapers, clean the litter box, line small trash cans, carry their wet swimsuit and towel in, the list goes on and on. And if we don’t have those grocery bags to use we will be purchasing different PLASTIC bags to do those things with. I haven’t bought plastic trashcan liners (small ones) for years, I just reuse the ones from the grocery store. Also, I work for a nonprofit thrift store and we always use the recycled plastic ones instead of having to buy new ones. So really this law would actually ADD to the plastic bag demand, simply because we wouldn’t have the ones we brought home from WalMart! Simple supply side economics.

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    • babylonvi
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 1:21am

      @JZS OK, you want to save the environment, dig a hole in some out of the way place and bury yourself in it.

      p.s. Be sure to shovel in ALL the extracted dirt.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 7:16am

      @JZS

      I see your point but consider this:

      The paper and plastic bags breakdown fairly quickly.

      How do you managed your waste without those hangy bags? In NZ they tried to reduce checkout bags and ironically supply us with large black polythene bags for collection. We aren’t allowed trash cans here due to the difficulty (cost) of handling.

      At the end of the day, it is an attempt to solve a problem that doesn’t, in fact, exist. Well, except in the minds of people who wish to remodel the world on their own ideals, of course.

      Finally, just because a bunch of socialist countries in Europe and elsewhere do it is no reason to follow their example. In fact, it’s a pretty good reason not to.

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 8:52am

      Wow, JZ! You’re getting quite the fan club! Europe and the bags. Don’t forget to tell what else goes on. Multigenerational households. Daillly trips to the market, Milk vending machines. highways with no cars. .And my favorite refrigerators you can carry upstairs, in your arms, by yourself!

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    • pwnjr
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 10:18am

      Im sorry but I do reuse those store bags just like alot of other people. I use them to clean my cats litter box and I use them for the small garbage cans in my house like in the bathroom, and hallway trashcans. so just on that issue it is stupid to ban these bags.

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 10:44am

      nzkiwi says, “The paper and plastic bags breakdown fairly quickly.” Nzkiwi, that’s not correct. The microbes that cause waste to break down don’t eat polyethylene. For plastic bag litter you see on the side of the highway, there’s some photo-degradation over time, but bags that go to a landfill are covered and for all practical purposes never go away. In landfills, even paper degrades very slowly, as in 100s of years.

      A Monk – sorry, you can’t recycle those bags at the street, although you can take them back to some stores, but very few people do that.

      Monk, honestly, you’re beginning to sound like a teenage girl with a crush on me, someone with an OCD desperation for my attention. It’s a bit weird.

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  • Carlinpa
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:10pm

    As I have said before it‘s NOT political differences between liberals and sane I mean conservatives it’s SPIRITUAL. Have you noticed that just about everything that was normal and moral and was legal is NOW illegal and everything that was illegal is now legal in California.
    It seems that sodomy, pot, nudity, ,gay marriages and of course infanticide, perfectly legal and normal, where as paper bags, patriotic displays of of the American flag and religion are illegal or suppressed.

    When are people going to wake up to these wicked, incompetent nut cases?

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 1:19pm

      Just. Move.

      That is (was?) the beauty of these United States; if one state got too big for its britches you could drag anchor and MOVE…

      …to Texas.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:09pm

    Lets see, I have to fly to LA every 2 months for about 3-4 days. During that time, I guess I have to either buy a bag or bring one. This is one thing I believe will blow up in their face. You just told 12 million people, you WILL adapt. What happens when the gang banger runs into a shop or liquor store to rob it, and they forget their bag for the clerk to fill up the money? Oh, they will just shoot some patron for their bag. I believe this will now cause bag robbery to spike, you will see people killed just for their dirty, germy shopping bags. What next, their will not only be needle swaps, but dirty shopping bag swaps? Where will these slimy liberal policy lead us.

    People killing people for bags, germs, food poisioning and crime spikes, all to save some plastic and paper.

    Liberals choose trees and plastic over people…ITS PEOPLE!!!!!!

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    • jetmech568
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:27pm

      Take a bunch of bags with you and stand outside the store and sell them for 5 cents each.
      Next thing you know they will put tax stamps on them to make sure people aren’t bringing illegal bags into the country…….. i mean state.

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  • The Eleventh Doctor
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:08pm

    People should use all the plastic bags remaining that get didn’t get banned and use them to suffocate the liberal lawmakers of California. We’d still be reusing the bags, at least.

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  • rsanchez1
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:05pm

    California: The Liberal Nightmare

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  • nighttrainno9
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:03pm

    Are all people in CA idiots?? Why don’t they just break away from the USA
    and become their own little “broke” communist country?? I certainly
    wouldn’t have a problem with that. The drugs and weed must have
    overwhelmed their brains because I haven’t heard of one sensible
    thing CA has done in years. We know pelosi way overdid the drugs.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:37pm

      Mexico won’t even take them now., No water, no production, no agriculture. Hey, they turned it back into the original desert it was when the settlers moved in. Now to just get rid of the people, and it will be back to paradise, or hell on earth.

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    • Goldenyears22
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:49pm

      There are many good conservative people in California, unfortunately, we are run by the nut cases that live on the coast. They are not all native Californians, many nut cases have come here to live, such as Nancy Pelosi, who was not born here. Nut cases are always drawn to the coastal cities. And not all of those who live on the coast are nuts, but unfortunately, most of them are and they control the rest of us whether we want their idiot, evil, immoral ways or not.

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    • Wishmich
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 1:05am

      I hope Hollyweird is included.

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    • TheBurningTruth
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 6:01am

      To answer your question, NO. Not everyone here is a flaming idiot Liberal. Unfortunately, the majority ARE flaming Liberals. The rest of us are looking for ways to sell and get the hell out of here. The Progressive Liberals have turned a self-sufficient state into a whining crybaby state. They Demoncrats have destroyed the public finances in their quest to “equalize” everything, and with the illegal immigration problem, have convinced a vast section of the population that they deserve the good life simply for existing.

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  • IndyGuy
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:02pm

    Idiots…Brand new bags every time you shop are sanitary…

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    • MAMMY_NUNN
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:57pm

      That is my view what about the chicken and meat cross contaminating to other groceries.

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 1:21pm

      My grandparents used to tell me about bringing a basket shopping. They had to visit multiple stores (butcher, grocer, dairy) and they just carted this bulky thing around with them.

      I always seemed like such a PITA to me. Just get a brand new, shiny, clean bag and off you go!

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  • wordweaver
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:58pm

    LA is one of the most disposable cultures anywhere. This will be hilarious, and , oh yeah, it will never work. There will be riots – plastic bag riots, I tell ya! You heard it here first.

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  • right-wing-waco
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:57pm

    This is really stupid. I drive a truck and when I go into a store to buy a drink or snack I need the bag for a place to put the trash when finished. Now I guess I’ll just open the window and throw it out. What a uncj of dumb azzez.

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    • Jase
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:30pm

      Me too, the plastic bags hang perfectly on the air buttons. Oh well, there is nowhere in LA proper that has truck parking anyway.

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  • Got2bRoni
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:55pm

    Sad my fellow angelinos….. It is time to get the f out…… I am moving…

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 1:24pm

      Texas, bro. Come to Texas!

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    • thegreatcarnac
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 3:16pm

      NOOOO..don’t cme to Texas….soon we will be inundated with California liberals and we will have to shoot’em …lol.

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  • KingDork
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:54pm

    Yup many places here in southern california already applied this in many regions. It is such bs and a pain to haul your own bags.

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:53pm

    what a wonderfull world to live in ..california…its utopia…progressives make all the important decisions in your daily life….like going to the beach and playing vollyball..oh you cant do that anymore..ok..maybe throwing a ball around with your kids…nah..thats not allowed either…lets see…oh i know…grow weed man….they seem to think thats cool….

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:53pm

    You would think that if enough of the citizens of LA spoke out, they could stop this madness. But alas, apathy rears its ugly head yet again, and everybody pays dearly for it…
    And the funny thing is, the tree-hugging liberals are always jumping at the chance to go greener…and then are the first to complain at the inconvenience.

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    • chazmo
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:13pm

      We‘ll it’s LA.. if it was a Black Plastic Bag then they would riot..

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:52pm

    One more case of the future of America under the Progressives until we become a massive Socialist or Communist state once and for all.

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  • devildogger
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:51pm

    I wonder how many crown poly employees voted for villaraigosa and the other nitwits on their city council. Rather poetic, methinks.

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  • TXPilot
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:50pm

    I find it amusing, that the people in L.A. think there will even be grocery stores soon. Once our economy has completed it’s death spiral, there will be no need for any sort of bag.

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    • brntout
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:33am

      Colostomy bag comes to mind….Oh but that might be righteously indignatious ,perhaps.Wooohooooo…..Obama care….Not.

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  • AB5r
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:48pm

    Reusable bags are not sanitary. Who wants some of the filthy slobs out there (we have all seen them, you may even be one of them) bringing all of the disgusting crime and germs from their hovel back with them to the store where they will contaminate the store for the rest of us to then take their germs home with us? Liberals, taking the world back to the Middle Ages, one disgusting step at a time.

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    • conservativewoman
      Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:45pm

      @AB5R
      You are absolutely right. Reusable bags grow bacteria in them after only one use, and the ones I’ve seen are not washable.

      This is such a laugh because I live in California and the city of L.A. is a bio-hazard in itself.

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    • Quiata
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 6:13am

      @AB5R You took the words right out of my mouth! My initial thoughts were on the filthy unwashed bags being reused, but think of the contamination that occurs when those nasty bags from the nether regions of some lovely homes are plopped up on the register counter and conveyor belt repeatedly throughout a single sales day. There are enough germs already in the food handling process without adding even more possibilities from people’s homes.

      Oh, and did we mention roaches and bedbugs?

      I wonder if the Los Angeles board of health has any say about this?

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  • possom
    Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:48pm

    If CA passes it IL will be next!

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