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Parents Allegedly Enlist Fellow Churchgoer to Violently Beat Their Son

Police Believe Paul Kim Violently Beat Parents Son With Their Permission

Paul Kim (Image Credit: San Bernadino Sheriff Department)

IRVINE, Calif. (The Blaze/AP) — An Irvine couple who suspected their 15-year-old son of smoking turned to a man believed to be relied on in their Lutheran church to violently discipline children, authorities said.

The parents asked Paul Kim, 39, to discipline their son after finding a lighter in his possession, dropping the boy off at Kim’s Chino Hills home with permission for the beating, San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokesperson Cindy Bachmann said Saturday.

Kim apparently asked the boy about the lighter. When he suspected that the boy was lying to him, Kim began beating him.

“After receiving permission from the victim’s father to use corporal punishment, Kim struck the child approximately 12 times with a metal pole, which was about 1” in diameter, on the back of the legs, causing injuries,” read a statement that came from the department.

An adult at the boy’s school saw the bruises and called Irvine police, who in turn informed San Bernardino County officials, she said.

Kim was arrested Tuesday at his home and released Thursday after posting $100,000 bail. He faces a felony charge of willful cruelty to a child. No court date has been set, according to jail records.

The San Bernardino County District Attorney‘s office was reviewing the sheriff’s department report and will decide whether to charge the teen’s father, Bachman said. It wasn’t immediately known whether the father was present at the time of the beating.

The names of the boy and his parents were not released.

Investigators believe Kim has been used in this way by other families in the congregation, and asked for victims and witnesses to come forward.

The name of the church was not released but Bachman said it was located in La Habra. The Imperfect Parent blog is claiming that it is the Emanuel Lutheran Church.

It wasn’t immediately known whether Kim had hired an attorney. A message left at a Chino Hills listing with his name was not returned Saturday.

Comments (108)

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  • deeberj
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:23am

    Yet another racist remark.

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  • ProfessorClyde
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:17am

    This upsets me to no end , as a Believer myself A-Holes like this give us a horrible image to Non believers .
    Hey you midless Idiot do you honestlt believe Christ would beat a child with a metal pole?????

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 12:36pm

      This “church” needs to be investigated. From the above article, it appears that this little bully is the official church-enforcer-of-discipline. Makes me wonder how many kids, with their un-intelligent parents’ approval, have been beaten up by this creep.

      The “church” website offers zero info as to what they are about. The Q & A page only talks about where to sit and what to wear, etc.

      Imho, this alleged “church” is some kind of diabolical cult. They claim to be a Lutheran church. I wonder if the official Lutheran church is even aware of their existence. There Is Something Very Wrong Here!

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:37pm

      You see Blaze? Look at grassroots. You got this poor person all worked up about this church when there is absolutely nothing to suggest the church supports or even condones what this private citizen did.

      Totally misleading and irresponsible reporting.

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 6:26pm

      @ troll

      TheBlaze reported this story just fine! Could you be someone from the “Emanuel Lutheran Church” attempting to deflect blame?

      @ TheBlaze Readers: Think about contacting that “church!” The website is in TheBlaze’ article above. Let them know that in this day and time those kinds of “behind closed doors” abuses can gain National Attention real quick and are not to be tolerated. It will be interesting to see how many of these kids will be stepping forward as time goes on, now that this one boy’s story is known.

      “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. …”
      ~ Luke 12:2,3

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    • well well
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:27pm

      This was in the Q&A section of the church’s website….

      What about my children?
      Children are important to the life of Emanuel Lutheran Church. Your children are always welcome to stay with you during the worship service. If you prefer, of course, you may take your children to the nursery for quality care during the service. A “cry room” is also available at the rear of the sanctuary. The parent is still able to see and hear the service from the cry room area.

      At least they have a cry room…

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  • Pat Alexander
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:42am

    “Kim struck the child approximately 12 times with a metal pole”

    Sad this had to happen in this season.

    This will certainly lead to the Obama regime regulating the purchase of Festivus poles….

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    • hotforbeck
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:47am

      Obviously it was time for the Airing of the Grievances.

      Seriously, tho. Parents need to be in jail, too!

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  • FoxholeAtheist
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:38am

    Why are you Xtians so quick to beat children? Your ‘heavenly father’ seems to enjoy punishing you so I suppose it’s only natural you beat your children to death. It’s a vicious cycle.

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    • JAYBECONSERVATIVE
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:49am

      Both those church members and you are way off base. If GOD was out to punish everyone there would have been no need to watch his son be tortured and crucified. Just look at that from a truly logical standpoint. These people made this stupid decision (as well as most other people in the world) based on tradition and family beliefs. GOD did not sanction his abuse. Not even “spare the rod spoil the child” applies in that situation. The love of GOD is not in them.

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    • HAPPYRWE
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:05pm

      Well true Christians don’t do this, lots of people come from abusive homes and continue to pass the curse on. The parents were wrong, period. Beaten for a lighter? Christ does not teach this, these people are not the 99% of Christians.

      But I do know that good Christians don’t teach the lie and myth of righteous Communism for the two words cannot exist together. To teach that Mao Zedong is a hero and a good leader is an evil, vicious lie and myth. To lead, manipulate, twist and disease people to believe that Socialism and Communism is a wonderful and final way to live is a dangerous lie. Communism has killed more people than any other religion, hard to prove because of the media/political induced love of Communism. Communism is fascism, murder, control, criminal, and dark, hated by those who are forced to live it. Christians do not teach their children to welcome and obtain Communism.

      We love freedom. Freedom to make mistakes and freedom to thrive. True Christians are taught to love everyone and to be their best self. Communism will adapt to anything during different stages, it will disguise, infiltrate, mock and mirror just to control and bring a religion a people or a nation to its knees, strategic tactics and force is it’s powerful insidious strength.

      True Christians will be your lifeboat and your beacon of light in a dark evil world one day, sorry you don’t see it now, people in this article are not the definition of a Christian.

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    • socal lady
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:05pm

      @foxhole atheist
      “He that spares the rod hates his child” refers to the rod that was used by the shepherders of that time period. The rod had multiple uses – the shepherd would use it to guide the sheep by gently tapping them, or would use the hooked end to pull a wayward sheep back, or use it to fight off wolves. When he smacked the sheep – it was for their benefit – not so hard that they would be injured, but hard enough to get their attention. THIS IS AN ACT OF LOVE if it administered correctly. Do not make the ignorant atheistic mistake or interpreting scripture with modern meanings. It must be kept in its context so that it doesn’t get twisted by people such as yourself – who use every opportunity to discredit a being that they don’t believe exists – but in your heart you really do – otherwise you wouldn’t care so much – you must have really had a bad experience to hate God the way you do – I can assure you that people are responsible for all the evil in the world – not Him. He has to work through people’s choices – He cannot just do whatever He wants. Just like a parent cannot just do whatever he wants to his children – they have free will too – all a parent can do is teach and discipline them. Once their grown – it’s up to them what they do with it. Freedom to choose = LOVE.

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    • takemout
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:13pm

      Foxy, you can’t have a 15 year old Asian kid smoking. He could wind up like you. And, it is much better to beat that out of him than have another Foxy.

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    • David Foxfire
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 4:36pm

      For once I agree with you. It doesn’t matter how it was meant when it was written, “Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child” made more atheists than all the atheist books involved. Whould you want to bow the knee and declare “My Lord and My God” to the one who‘s followers used the shepherd’s rod like a Singapore Cane?

      I see Christ apologizing to the child in the child’s time of Judgement. He’d be doing it a lot. It’ll put Him in the right frame of mind when He punts someone to Hell.

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  • Searchingforthelight
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:28am

    Its better that they were tied to a huge rock and thrown into the sea or that they had never been born than hurt a hair on these little ones. I feel the parents are more guilty for punishing the child than the man. Knowledge is power, when the kid realizes that it will cost about 600 a month to smoke and about 600 for an apartment do you think he will choose to smoke outside? Why weren’t the parents involved to know who the kid was running with, or do the parent smoke too? Be thou an example.

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  • GodFearingAtheist
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:21am

    It starts with parents who were “spanked” who then spank their kids, starting with a hand, then comes the belt, then if you touch the belt, here come the fists, if you fight back, you will bleed – all in the name of God. I know.
    Do you really think you can control your anger in front of a teenager that certainly “deserves” it?
    Watching that judge and his wife “spank” that girl on U tube made me sick. Shame on you, Judge.

    Your children will remember what you did and never forget. Surely there is a better way.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:28am

      Give it a break,
      Spar the rod spoil the child. Sometimes you have to spank and sometimes you need a switch or belt.
      The government has no business or constitutional authority in the raising of our children. The one side fits all rules don’t work some kids and more hard headed and defiant than others and that what the next level is for.

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    • deeberj
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:25am

      These people didn’t spank their child. They let another person beat him. The people on u-tube lost their temper – with a brat manipulative teenager who egged them on so she could film it.

      These are not examples of spanking. They are examples of dysfunctional families who don’t know how to properly apply discipline.

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    • ltb
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:28am

      I wouldn’t have handled it that way, but you can be pretty sure the kid will never smoke again. Which is worse… his legs having some bruises that will heal in a few days, or him dying a slow, agonizing death of lung cancer 25 years from now? Ask anyone who has ever tried to quit smoking if they would rather go through the drawn out torture of quitting smoking, or if they would rather have had their butts smacked the first time their parents discovered they were smoking and I’ll bet most people would choose the latter option.

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    • smokie
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:55pm

      I hate to break it to you, lbj, but the kid is probably going to be a smoker.
      The parents rated smoking as a greater sin than assault with a deadly weapon.
      What better way to pay them back?
      I‘ve met too many smokers who grew up in ’good’ Christian homes, where they are so obsessd with appearances of being good and right, they are neither.

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    • ltb
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 6:40pm

      First off smokey, if people claim to be Christians and they are obsessed with appearances of being good and right, they don’t understand what it means to be a Christian. In the New Testament, such hypocrites were known as Pharisees and Jesus reserved his harshest words for those people. The only thing a Christian should be obsessed with is Jesus and subsequently, the truth. Fake appearances play no role in the life of a Christian, because being a Christian is about understanding that you’re not “good and right” and are in need of a Savior – enter Jesus.

      Second, my point was, before anyone judges these parents for the way they discipline their children, perhaps we should look at the consequences of doing nothing. You say the kid will probably grow up to be a smoker, but you don’t know that. I say that this incident will have had an impact on the kid and the odds of him becoming a smoker have decreased, which is a much more reasonable conclusion. At any rate, if a child is raised in a loving home where wisdom is imparted through discipline, that child will never plot revenge against his parents, especially at the risk of his own health.

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  • timej31
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:04am

    Take this guy for example. Do you think he will vote YES on raising his own taxes? Jerry Brown needs the money.

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  • conservativemom99
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:48am

    Big difference between beating and spanking.
    Spanking is done after a period of cooling off…never in anger…a few painful, but controlled whacks on the behind. The worst part of a spanking for me was the waiting for it to happen. I had time to think about it and what I‘d done and how much I didn’t want the spanking. THAT was most of the discipline right there! Then, the spanking was quick, painful, but no marks were left. I spanked my kids too. We’re all well-adjusted, law abiding, loving people. None of us were BEATEN, we were spanked. There’s a difference.
    To me, the issue is that the kid was beaten…and that the parents relinquished their authority to someone else…that’s really odd. Giving authority to a teacher or grandparent is one thing, but to take the kid to an unrelated third party for a beating is sick.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:07am

      such a peaceful religion!

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    • texasken
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 11:34am

      Rose Ellen–

      Christianity IS a peaceful religion. Atheism has given us Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin. Islam is responsible for most of the violence in the world today. Buddhists and Hindus have very little respect for life or liberty, believing as they do in reincarnation. Only Judaism and Christianity are built on the tenet, “love your neighbor as yourself”. That these parents did a terrible thing does not cast a shadow on Christianity, nor on Lutheranism, nor even on that particular congregation in Irvine. They were disobeying the beliefs of their religion, not following them. I’m certain that there are very, very few in that church who were not shocked by what happened, and even fewer who approved.

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    • reasonablerhetoric
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 6:18pm

      @Texasken
      Woah, hang on there cowboy, let’s not be telling lies now!

      “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.”

      WHO SAID THAT YOU ASK?

      -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

      To say that Christianity and Judaism have not enabled violence is as ignorant to say that the religion of Islam has not enabled violence.

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  • recoveringneocon
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:45am

    @smack
    You must have not got the memo, there are no Palestinians

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:20am

      Neither were there israelis till the european zionist colonizers and the colonialists’ club[the UN] declared there were. Ancient history is irrelevant and non arab jews[european zionists] are as mixed ethnically as mid east arab palestinians -many of whom are either christians[jews] or descended from them or mixed with jews who were there .Mid east arab muslims today are mixed with jews of the past[prior to islam ]and some jews of the mid east converted to islam too[as did christians].The arabs[they speak arabic but are a mixture of peoples including jews of the past]of that area are more indigenous then mixed european zionists from europe who may trace an ancestor from there but the arab palestinians have been there all along[being mixed with original jews and christians[jews] themselves who converted to islam in 1700 or later or who are mixed with them.Either way an insistence on remaining jewish majority state is racist.

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    • OH, I Get It!
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:52am

      You are right!
      1972 – There were no Palestinians involved in killing Israelis at Munich.
      ALSO, none involved in throwing a Jew-in-a-Wheelchair off a passenger liner.

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    • SREGN
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:14pm

      Rosie – So history is only relevent when it suits your arguement? Recent history is relevent as of when? Ancient history is irrelevent as of when?

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  • lukerw
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:44am

    If you get involved in the Life of each person then Society becomes Fascist! Let water find it’s own level… and just mop up after the sweage back ups!

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:35am

    If this abuse is confirmed in court, then put them all behind bars and weld the door shut.

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    • dnewton
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:11am

      Wait! What about their good intentions? Why is it that some people get a pass on anything they mess up while others are doomed to punishment?(Frank,Dodd, Geitner, Bernacke) If this beating worked, it would have saved the child and society a lot of money over time. We can’t wait for the science to come in and prove my point. The benefits are just too valuable to forgo.(like Global Warming’s Carbon Taxation) Even if he was hospitalized for observation, it is way cheaper than cancer. What about all of the second hand smoke effects? This guy should get an Obamacare Medal of Honor and Public Service Award for reducing the gap between planned program revenues and the planned shortfall. And he is doing it without an added tax!

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:32am

    Well now that’s what I call dragging baby Jesus thru the mud.

    Not perfected on earth and this is totally messed up.

    The Lutherans need to teach from the bible and stop being all pretentiously holy…reminds me of the Muslim way of life.

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    • Doctor Nordo
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:50am

      So one group of bad apples and you condemn the entire Lutheran faith? Somehow I doubt that Lutherans consistently propose beating children with metal poles.

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    • deeberj
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:51am

      Not all Lutherans do this. Please don’t attack an entire organization for the actions of people in one church.

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    • Countrygirl1362
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:05am

      My grandparents were raised Luthern and they raised me and nothing was ever done to me like what happened to this child. Not all Lutherns are like the man arrested.

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    • bigdaddyt46
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:23am

      I am the son of a Lutheran Pastor, your statement is an insult to me and my father(now fallen asleep). i can guarentee you this is not a Lutheran rule. to equate us to muslims is satan inspired for sure. you know nothing about the Lutheran faith, zip, zero,nada. do you know what transpired that was the forerunner to having Luther excommunicated from the Catholic Church??? do you know that Luther himself didn’t want his followers to even be called by the name Lutherans???

      there are radical offshoots with almost any religion to condemn as you have done with your statement a Christian church out of ignorance is Blasphemy!!!!! My Lord and Saviour will be your Judge, good luck trying to explain this one.

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:38am

      The Bible condones this. He‘s lucky he wasn’t stoned to death.

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    • reasonablerhetoric
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 6:26pm

      Of course you label ALL Muslims evil because of “bad apples”. But if people use the same logic on religions other than Islam? HEY DON’T JUDGE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE, THAT’S NOT FAIR.

      Bigots.

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  • Moozmom
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:31am

    Dad took the sons to the woodshed for a good spanking on the rear end.
    Mom spanked the daughters on the rear end.
    All the kids are law abiding, productive citizens.
    A good spanking on the rear end is no guarantee a kid will “turn out” okay. Parenthood is a crap shoot at best.

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    • Mrs.M
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:51am

      hitting a kid or anyone 12 times with a metal pole is much more than a switch in the woodshed. There is discipline and there is abuse. This crossed the line.

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  • bigdaddyt46
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:10am

    God said you spare the rod, you spoil the child.
    with that said, God did not mean an actual rod but disapline, IE spanking. that’s lovingly showing the child there are consiquences(sp?) to one’s actions, a personal responsibility. that’s the trouble today no disapline has lead to a couple of generations of kids who blame everyone else for their troubles. no responsibilty anymore. it‘s the white man’s fault i can’t get ahead, it‘s the rich man’s fault, i tripped and hurt myself it‘s the homeowners fault that there was a minute crack in the sidewalk i didn’t see. you get the point. start looking in the mirror if you wanna see why you can’t get ahead in life, and berating yourself for being clumsy for that split second you tripped over your feet. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN LIFE, STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR OWN SHORTCOMINGS.
    and to the sore a$$ funded trolls that have infiltrated this sight, i am not condoneing the use of a metal rod to spank.

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    • bigfatslob
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:38am

      Right on !

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:41am

      Your god enjoys a nice roaring fire for his own set of consequences.

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    • Doubletap 40
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:20am

      This phrase has quite a long genesis. The coiner of the version that we use in everyday speech was Samuel Butler, in Hudibras, the satirical poem on the factions involved in the English Civil War, which was first published in 1662:

      Love is a Boy,
      by Poets styl’d,
      Then Spare the Rod,
      and spill the Child.

      [by 'spill', Butler did mean spoil - that was an alternative spelling at the time]

      The precise words were Butler’s, but the proverbial notion is much older. William Langland’s The vision of William concerning Piers Plowman, 1377, includes this line:

      Who-so spareth ye sprynge, spilleth his children.

      ‘Spilleth’ is used to mean ‘spoils’, as in Butler’s poem. ‘Sprynge’ was commonly used in mediaeval English to mean the verb ‘spring’, i.e. ‘rise quickly, at a bound’. It seems that Langland was using here as a synonym for ‘sprig’, i.e. rod or offshoot of a plant, although the OED has no other records of ‘sprynge’ being used that way.

      English version of the Bible pre-1377 don’t include the line in the form we now use, but they do contain a similar thought, and this is probably where Butler took it from. In the King James Version, Proverbs 13:24, we find:

      He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:08am

    Not man enough to spank your own child? LOSER! Spare the rod and spoil the child, but for God‘s sake don’t turn it over to someone else. Take responsibility!!

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:00am

    .
    Sounds like some busy body at school needs to get back to teaching, and mind their own business. After all Father knows Best…..

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    • LibertyGoddess
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:21am

      If you did that to a neighbor, you would be arrested for assault. We do not have a right to beat our own children. EVER. Children can be raised and disciplined with love, teaching, and patience. To do otherwise is not following a God of love, but just the opposite. Satan is the author of violence.

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    • deeberj
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:49am

      Libertygoddess – as Christians the bible says “spare the rod, spoil the child”. It talks about corporal punishment as a tool. So yes, since I’m allowed to practice my religion in America, for now anyway, I am allowed to punish by spanking.

      However, let me say this was not a spanking. Beating on the legs with a metal rod is too much. If the parents thought the kid needed punishment they should have done it themselves.

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  • dgktowntx
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:54am

    The kid will thank them later…Parents know best……Catch him again…do it again…..

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    • AJAYW
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:07am

      Yea right just cut his hands he can’t do it again

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:10am

      The kid will now NEVER respect the parents as they shunned their responsibility and turned it over to a stranger. These parents suck!

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    • LibertyGoddess
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:23am

      Don’t even tell me what religion you follow, I have absolutely no respect for someone who believes in violence towards another human in the name of religion.

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  • Lowly Sinner
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:50am

    Proverbs tells us that we should “spare the rod and spoil the child” and that a father that does not “surely hates his son”. I feel in my heart that the operative word here is father. I have a one year old, and I rue the day that I have to discipline him. That does not mean that I won‘t spank him when he’s done wrong, but I surely will not drop him off to one of my fellow Christians to do what I need to do. This is because when parents discipline their own children, it should come with a hurt heart, which will temper them to not endanger the child.

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    • AJAYW
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:08am

      100% correct

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:48am

      @Lowly Sinner.. Yes and don’t forget to say just before the discipline that “ this is going to hurt me more than it is going to hurt you ” lol ..

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:45am

      When I use the Old Testament to make an argument regarding the bloodthirsty mindset of the Bible, I am met with “That’s the Old Testament” and then explained why it doesn’t count anymore. When Xtians want to support something like this, they immediately turn to this exact passage to back up their philosophy. Why is it good for them but not for me? I don’t take anything out of context. I quote directly, as do they. Why do you all cherry pick so much?

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:47am

    What the hell is wrong with the parents? Had I been caught smoking at 15 I would’ve been grounded for a month! And instead of being parents, they hand him over to a stranger to beat into a pulp…Nutty Californians.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:42am

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    Did it get the kid to stop smoking?………..

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    • TheLeftMadeMeRight
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:37am

      Maybe he wasn’t smoking and was just setting fires? Make sure you know exactly why the neighbor is beating your child! Take some responsibility as a parent.

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:57am

      Was the kid smoking?

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  • kevin
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:41am

    whats good for the goose is good for the gander, beat him senseless

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:50am

      If that were true, you’d be pro-Palestinian.

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    • OhioRifleman
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:11am

      Actually, given that the rest of the world has been trying to hunt the Jews to extinction for nearly 2500 years, the severity of their maltreatment makes me pro-Israel.

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  • Chucky77
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:37am

    Find that young man a home with decent parents and some supportive kids near his age. Let him grow up normally. His biological parents aren’t worthy of the name.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:26am

      What makes you think that these are the bilogical parents?The chances that they may be adoptive parents aren’t out of the realm.These are the type of parents that most social services agencies would allow to adopt.They are great at hiding their psycopathic tendencies.The hidden monsters that do the real damage.Disbelieve it check out CPS Watch.com.These monsters destroy kids and bilogical parents life for cash.

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  • AJAYW
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:36am

    What are we becoming? If anyonetried to lay a hand on my kids all hell would broke loose. How could any church go along with this?

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:03am

      Who said the church does go along with it? In fact, other than the fact that the parents knew this guy through the church, and the completely unsupported allegation that others in the same church have used his “services,” what does the church even have to do with it? I can understand mentioning it in passing as the original article does, but to actually use it in the headline? Really Blaze, you should change all the red coloring on this site to yellow…How about at least a quote from someone in charge at the church? At least give them the chance to clear themselves of any knowledge of this before you drag them through the mud. This kind of “reporting” could cause serious damage to their reputation and they may even have legal recourse against this site. At the least it is misleading, irresponsible, unprofessional, and just plain trashy. Enough is enough.

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  • smackdown33
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:36am

    Crazy Muslims.

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:37am

      It was the “Christian” thing to do, helping parents beat the truth out of their kids.

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:35am

    I think the real story of the day will be: Did Glenn Beck call the Tea Party racists?

    Remember: “The Truth has no agenda”

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