Pastor Delivers Controversial NASCAR Prayer: Thanks God for ‘Smokin’ Hot Wife’
- Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:35pm by
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A Tennessee pastor shocked more than a few spectators on Saturday during the NASCAR Federated Auto Parts 300 Nationwide series race. Why? Not only did he thank God for “Dodges” and “Toyotas” during the pre-race prayer, but he made sure to thank the Almighty for his “smokin’ hot wife.”
Reuters recounts the epic invocation by Pastor Joe Nelms of Family Baptist Church in Gladeville, Tenn:
He thanked God for such things as “these mighty machines that you’ve brought before us,” going on to cite the wonders of Dodges and Toyotas and Fords.
Prayerful thanks then were directed to, among other things,
“Sunoco Racing Fuel and Goodyear tires that bring performance and power to the track.”
But it was when he got to his family that he had fans and drivers unsuccessfully holding back laughter.
“Lord I want to thank you for my smokin’ hot wife tonight, Lisa, my two children, Eli and Emma, or as we like to call them the Little E’s.”
The prayer was quickly captured by many and posted on YouTube, and shows several breaking out in laughter during the normally serious ritual:
The prayer is reminiscent of one given during the comedy movie “Talladega Nights” (which centers around NASCAR racing) starring Will Ferrell:
But as HuffPo points out, Nelms is no stranger to epic, pre-race prayers. The outlet posted two other videos of past prayers that seem to be a warm-up to his instantly infamous one on Saturday:
Nelms was unavailable to comment about his latest invocation to Reuters.
But while some may find Nelms’s prayer irreverent, at least one person liked it, race winner Carl Edwards.
“I turned to Jack (Roush) after that. I said, ‘If anything happens, I want him to be at my funeral,’” Edwards said according to the Christian Post. “That was one of the best invocations I have ever heard.”
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Comments (252)
stogieguy7
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:14pmI’ve heard (much) worse, such as that which passed for a prayer at the Tucson Memorial Service/Pep Rally with Carlos Gonzales, the phony “Native American” with the feather.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/206929/abc-news-specials-together-we-thrive-tucson-and-america
Compared with that travesty, this one at NASCAR was downright reverent.
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:41pmYes that “native american prayer” for lack of better words… plssed me off!!!
Report Post »However this guy was AWESOME! I enjoyed his prayer. I thought it funny and relevant! God invented the sense of humor! He said nothing disrespectful or anti God or anti country so I say….Yes and AMEN!
I am also NOT a NASCAR fan!!! But I do love God and think his kids are at times cute and funny and this certainly was!
Czar Casm
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:42pmWhat has he got against Chevy’s?
Report Post »Caniac Steve
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:43pmon’t agree with ya…but that‘s ok too as millions of people don’t agree with lots of things…andcremember…free speech even in it’s uglist forms is still free speech including pre race prayers…have a good evening…
Report Post »19RANDY59
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:45pmGod has a sense of humor, ever read the story of how King Saul was chosen? Someday when you can’t find your A$$ with both hands, you’ll understand.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:55pmI was that a pray or was he obligated to mention all of the Churches sponors?
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:06pmWhat?
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:11pm“thank god for my smokin’ hot wife” is from the movie Talledega Nights. Obviously a joke
Report Post »mils
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:15pmwell, if there was a certain way to pray…maybe it would be stamped on our forehead brfore birth..
the man has a sense of humor, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT GOD HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR, just look at what we have running our country and you will see it!
leave the man alone!!…at least he’s not preaching hate of the white man…
Report Post »IBLEEDREDWHITEANDKENTUCKYBLUEGOCATS
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:23pm@czarcasm
He did mention GOVERNMENT MOTORS
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:48pmI prayed for a pretty blone wife with brown eyes and great boobs ,And God delivered 2-3 mo’s later,
Report Post »She‘s a church grown woman thats fantastic and we’ve been married 20 yrs with 3 great kids !
Be carefull what you wish,pray for you just might get it! Wished for 6mo vacation , truck hit me blinsided been on that vacation 15 yrs now! or inhouse arreston some days !
chazman
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:05pmI will be the judge as to the validity of his wife being “smokin’ hot.” Now bring her to me so that I may judge her smokyness!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:17pmI had a younger associate pastor who always thanked God for his Hotie that lived with him (wife).
Report Post »At least he loves his wife and thinks she’s hot. Too many ministers get caught up in ritual, and their prayers sound routine.
VegasGuy
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:25pmSounds like a man who has no motivation to stray. He obviously loves his wife and counts his blessings. I like the guy and his sense of humor.
Report Post »HankScram
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 6:29pmThanks for posting that Native American prayer link. That was an awesome prayer. Many of you will never see why because you can only appreciate the exact thing that comes from your culture. If you haven’t heard it since you were three, you can’t appreciate it. You should read up on North American Indian spirituality – it has some cool components. And an interesting Creation story . . . if you go for creation stories.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 7:25pmI would rather listen to this pastor have a bit of fun with the crowd (at least NASCAR has a sense of humor) than hear some pathetic singer crucify the Star Spangled Banner.
Report Post »RedinLouisville
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 9:51pmyou got that right grandma
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:00pmThis guy is more than stupid. He very obviously doesn’t fear God. If I went to his church, I wouldn’ walk away, I would run. This guy and everybody that follows him should ask God to forgive them. How stupid can a person be, to want to be cool and accepted more than to have salvation. He has no idea about who God is.
Report Post »Glenn in Virginia
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:03pmStogieGuy7, I don‘t think we absolve ourselves of our sins by pleading that we’re not as culpable as some other bozo.
That‘s just one man’s opinion; but it does happen to be mine.
Report Post »artistskeptic
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:13pmHow is ANY ORGANIZATION so damn incompetent as to allow an idiot as this to do anything in public. Thank you NASCAR may your stupid tank racing sport soon fade into oblivion!!!
Report Post »capitalideals
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 11:15pmBest………Prayer………Ever!!
Report Post »Czar Casm
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 12:09am@ IBLEEDREDWHITEANDKENTUCKYBLUEGOCATS
Ah, thats what I get for not watching the video!
Report Post »getalong
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 12:48amTo tell you the truth, I think Jesus would have had a good laugh upon hearing this man. I mean it is not like the guy is talking about some hot chic – he is talking about his Wife….and, frankly, I think the world would be a happier place if more husbands felt that way about their wives. Amen, Alleluia!
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 10:13amCesium
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:11pm
“thank god for my smokin’ hot wife” is from the movie Talledega Nights. Obviously a joke
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QFT. The people who make news about this, are mental, vertically challenged folks aka mental midgets.
Report Post »cntrlfrk
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:14pmWhat the hell is wrong with this guy?
Religion is supposed to suck, and suck bad, it can’t be funny.
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Report Post »DeliverUsFromEvil
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 7:41pmMaybe in a convoluted way it was simply his way of saying “this is the day the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad.”
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:12pmROTFLMFAO!!
AMEN!
lol
Report Post »Thatdrewguy
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:11pmI have not laughed that hard in a while. Talk about just having some fun in life! Good job! Raised a lot of Spirits!
Report Post »Binkley
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:10pmGuess what! God has a sense of humor. Get over it.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:22pmGod does have a sense of humor, but He does not condone disrespect or irreverence.
Report Post »In prayer, you are addressing the Supreme Ruler of all the Universe, the Creator and Designer of all things, the Saviour of all our sorry souls by means of His dear Son, Jesus. – John 3:16
And this guy prays in this way? Disgusting!
roblaine
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:30pmIs there anything that Jesus said or did that would lead anyone to believe that Jesus would find this kind of Mockery appropriate? Go read the Gospels again, and you will find that Jesus took his prayer very serious. This Pastor should re-evaluate his priorities. Jesus told us how to pray.
“Our Father in heaven,
Report Post »hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.”
roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:39pmVerily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. – Matthew 18:18
Since some of you only seem to believe in the ‘one book’, and don’t believe religion is a living concept… lose your sense of humor on earth, and you will lose it in your eternity.
Report Post »roblaine
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:50pmThis issue is not about having a sense of humor. Its possible to maintain a sense of humor while maintaining a sense of reverence. Its not either or!
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:54pmHaving an sense of humor or not, is not the issue here.
The issue is the irreverence toward our God and Creator that was shown by this ‘pastor’.
Really how could a man professing allegiance with God, a pastor say a prayer at a NASCAR event in the first place? Wrong place, wrong time, wrong event. Prayers to the Almighty should be private, not public.
Report Post »And if it is public, limit your audience to your congregation, not to those who do not share your beliefs.
Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:00pmRoseblood, not only was your comment idiotic, but you seem to not understand the difference between loose and lose.
Everything has its proper time and place. Levity is great, principally because we should not take ourselves or our cares that seriously. But flippancy is bad when dealing with truly serious and holy things. God is not silly, and prayers to him should not be silly. I’m glad this pastor thinks his wife is hot, but I wouldn’t want him making love to her in the pulpit nor do I want him making comical sexual references about her when praying to the Lord of heaven.
Everyone who says that God has a sense of humor; I would love to know your scriptural basis for that so that we might know what the parameters and purposes of that humor are. God says that he is not mocked, so where does that fit in?
Personally I think God’s sense of humor lies in laughing at us. Laughing at him alweays seems to be a characteristic that he discourages.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:02pmBearfoot, don’t confuse the issue by throwing in your thing against public prayer. that is not the issues here.
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:17pmIslesfordian – I am so glad I don’t believe in this being you call god. It sounds like a staunch being who doesn’t know how to enjoy all that has been created. What you describe is a ruler, not a creator, in my opinion. Rulers cannot tolerate having flaws pointed out, while creators embrace those flaw in themselves.
And allow me another translation of that quote: “I tell you with certainty, whatever you prohibit on earth will have been prohibited in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will have been permitted in heaven.” I know the difference between lose and loosed, but apparently scholars disagree with the translation.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:19pmIslesfordian,
Report Post »Would you say a public prayer to atheists, homosexuals, or muslims, those who do not share your understanding of the true God? At a NASCAR event, the audience could contain people of that sort and they would not appreciate your prayer. So, this is a part of the issue as I see it, because it is the wrong place, and as such does not guarantee a reverential prayer.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:38pm@IslesFordian
Sure showing your Christian spirit again today. Remember we speak what’s in the Heart. You sound angry an awful lot. I hope things get better for you.
@RoseBlood
The “one book” is the only book and God is real. Gratefully we are allowed to believe as we choose, as the Creator doesn’t force you to believe in Him. A ruler would though. I do hope you search for God and come to find him. If I can ever help you do so please let me know. God is good.
I find that anyone looking to pray in front of everyone else isn’t praying for the right motives usually. The Bible tells us in Luke the motives of why men seek to pray in Public gatherings.
The man can speak as he wishes. My faith finds it distasteful and not a good practice.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:43pm104 posts and 104 opinions. Sounds about right. Taste, sight, feelings, hearing and smelling are all gifts to be enjoyed everywhere. Otherwise you would have to only hear in a hearing church, or see only in a seeing church. The Earth IS church and all gifts can be expressed anywhere. Laughter just happens at any time and place. Use it or lose it.
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:59pm@Okie from Muskogee
Report Post »People here talk as if your book dictates to them what must be done to worship god. His people have made him a ruler by their own interpretation. The Bible is not one book, as it is made up of many books and stories; and I do not believe we have seen even half of what was written at the time.
I appreciate your offer to find god, but I have already found the creators and worship them appropriately with words, music, art, critical thinking, and humor.
Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:02pmbearfoot, a public prayer is an opportunity to witness to others who God is, but also to draw people’s hearts to God despite their level of spiritual awareness. Yes there would be atheists there, but there often is in the church, many of them calling themselves believers. That is what is so offensive about this“prayer”. He was yucking it up and celebrating the fun they were going to have rather than drawing them to remember that there is more important things than ephemeral fun.
Many of those here celebrating clowning around with prayer should take note that we are in the state we are as a country both politically and spiritually, and the two are related, because we have forgotten to take seriously the important things. We have treated God as benevolent but soft hearted grandfather, expecting him to bless whatever pleases us, and we have treated the Constitution without the respect it deserves and made it a toy.
Laughter is a good thing, in its place. Many of you don’t seem to know that things have their place. Why don’t you go to a wedding or a funeral and let a loud fart escape in the pew during the wedding vows or the eulogy, then explain that God has a sense of humor.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:05pmAnd It’s STILL DIVIDED WE FALL ! Look in the mirror you are WE ! ! ! !
Report Post »You’d think the Dems would go for a Consumer Tax where all taxes are paid at the cash register,then theRICH would be paying more taxes than they ever would under any other system! The REPS NEED TO TAKE THE BEST DEAL THEY CAN GET! rIGHT NOW! Tea partiers need to understand they only have The HOUSE ! Cant get the tough love,legislation they want Right NOW ! However if our country‘s credit rate go’es up, and the stock market tanks it’s all us common folk that will feel like We got hit by the bat!
We cant Do that Third Party thing(president) this decade!
But together we could have 4-5 parties in the Senate & House to asure
we dont have this 2 party lockout system, and would truly have Real representation of the People.
And our current government should be punished with TERM LIMITS !
And It’s STILL DIVIDED WE FALL ! Look in the mirror you are WE ! ! ! !1 Reply
Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:08pmOakie, don’t be childish just because I chided you in another post. It isn’t about you.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:44pmIsleFordian
You chided no one. Your pride in thinking so again shows your heart. You do display anger in every post with anyone who does not agree to believe as you. As a fellow Christian again I tell you we speak from the heart. I hope you replace that anger with love. A hateful/proudful person does not advance Christ’s cause. I also must disagree with you around Public prayer. Can you show from the Bible where it says we must pray in Public gatherings over all? Until then………………..
@RoseBlood
One book composed of several books. Believe as you choose, luckily we can. The God, the God of the Bible, forces no one to worship him. There is no ruler on Earth forcing one to believe. Yes many humans on Earth believe they should try and force such belief and in doing so become what they were fighting. Jesus clearly tells us we can choose the wide path or the narrow path like him. Clearly there is a choice and each will live with the consequences of that choice forever. Yes The Bible does demonstrate to those believing how to worship. Offer always stands in help finding the one true God and Creator of all. Remember, life is just the initiation to the after life! I hope your days great.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 6:10pmI’m not angry Okie. I just think you’re wrong. But if it makes you feel better by calling me angry so you don’t have to come up with logical points, knock yourself out (not literally, of course). But you might not be aware that the tactic of commenting about someone’s emotional state as a way to dismiss his argument is a trick that Freud made popular. And all the progressives have adopted it as well, so you’re in good company, I guess. Well, not so much good but….
Freud also had a theory called “transference”, which is when one person accuse another of doing what he really does. I don’t know, but when you write stuff like this:
“When you have God, you fear him and that is it. A Muslim is a non believer as a Jew is a non believer as an atheist is a non believer. All are against Christ Jesus. Have a great day.”
some might call that angry. I don’t, not at all. But i think your emotional state is irrelevant. i just think you are wrong to dismiss the idea that the Jews holding to the Law makes them substantially better than atheists and Muslims.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 6:22pmI’m with you, Blacktooth. God will not (should not) be mocked. WWJD?
Report Post »HankScram
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 6:33pmYes, Prayer must be somber and respectful. It also helps if the prayer is supported with proper Authority directly from God. A title is a plus. Those who have risen up through the ranks of a beauracratic religion usually know how to impart the proper solemnity so as not to offend God.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 6:36pmIslesFordian
Nice subtle aka deceptive way of saying I‘m Progressive because I don’t believe as you. Name calling is anger. You calling me a Progressive instead of debating is a tactic of the group you called me, isn’t it? Regardless I was referring to you calling someone an “Idiot”, “Progressive”, etc just because they don’t believe as you. I simply and lovingly was trying to tell you it hurts the cause and message you proclaim to bring. The message of God.
Transference. Are you a practicer? I’m rubber, your glue. Ready to debate like Christian adults now and stop distracting???
Did you find where it says we should pray in Public with nonbelievers?
If I never heard of God and you come along and begin praying openly for me I’d think you were crazy and would put my guard up against you. Now if I attended Church, I’m obviously going to learn of God, I would learn what prayer is and how to do so if I wished.
If that is anger, the Bible is angry because a non-believer is anyone, again anyone, who does not accept Jesus Christ. What Law does modern Judaism keep? And can you provide scripture for your opinion?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 7:00pmIsLesFordian
“Freud also had a theory called “transference”, which is when one person accuse another of doing what he really does.”
According to Freud’s theory called “transference”, those saying I’m angry would really be angry themselves. Right? Or when someone calls someone an “idiot” or “progressive” they are actually calling themselves idiot or “progressive”. Right?
I don’t think your a progressive idiot IslesFordian. Quit being so hard on yourself thru transference.
Report Post »Luke21
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:48pm@ Okie,
I didn’t realize there was a vacancy in the HS…Are you judging a brother’s heart? What’s next, are you going to accuse John the Baptist of an anger problem….?
@ Dan & Foot. I think you’re both right. Jesus warned about those praying in public (as Okie eluded to), as they just wish to be heard & we are cautioned not to cast pearls among swine. At the same time it can be a good thing when there is a certain corporate reverence among a nation or group who recognizes the Almighty God – even if all that are present are not of the faithful. Nineveh comes to mind as well as our own nations humble beginnings. However you can usually judge by the worlds reaction to the prayer, which is which. In this case it is a no brainer (which I think you both agree).
@ RoseB
“I am so glad I don’t believe in this being you call god…Rulers cannot tolerate having flaws pointed out, while creators embrace those flaw in themselves.”
Ummm He’s both (Creator & Supreme Ruler). He created all things and Him all things exist, & you choosing not to believe Him or in Him, doesn’t make Him or the truth null. Second, He has no flaws.
What flaws do you have that you embrace? What worlds do you hold together by your very word?
Your own words convict you “…all that has been created”. So who did this? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son’s name, If you know?
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 11:38pm@Luke21
Report Post »Our theology differs too much to have this discussion here. I refuse to proselytize my beliefs on a web site. But I appreciate your beliefs, and respect and defend them to my fullest ability. However, the pastor in this story gets that same respect from me. This was his way of communing with his god, and he felt it appropriate for the crowd he was before.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 2:13am@Luke21
Howdy.
If I said “you think like an idiot” would you consider that anger? I would. I don’t think your an idiot by the way. Just an example of what I was saying to IsLesFordian for his/her message of God to an non believer as he/her.
“I didn’t realize there was a vacancy in the HS”
What are you saying here. I don’t get it.
Does the Bible not tell us we speak from the heart? Luke 6:45 Is one verse to look at.
My reaching out was just as yours. Appreciate your concern.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 3:33am“If I said “you think like an idiot” would you consider that anger? I would.”
Why in the world would you think you could know the emotional state of a statement like that,Okie. If a person really is speaking like a fool how is pointing out the foolishness an action only capable through anger? If I said to Obama, “you think like a Marxist”, would that be an angry statement?
The thing about transference is, if I say something that makes someone else angry, in his anger he sees ME as being angry too, because anger is the way he is relating to the controversy. He assumes I must be angry to think what I said because he is angry hearing it. I might be angry when I say that Obama is a marxist. But I might not be angry. I could say it with sadness, or with no emotional passion at all, simply as a sober reflection of his political instincts.
Now it isn’t relevant whether it is anger or simple misunderstanding that caused you to misread my comment. The fact is that you did. I nowhere called you a progressive. I guess you admit as much when you said I did so sublty and deceptively. I clearly went no farther than labling the tactic of arguing about one‘s opponent’s emotional state as a progressive one. You can use progressive tools without being a progressive, but I think it’s legitimate to question how effective an opponent of progressivism you can be while using their tools.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 26, 2011 at 3:20pmIsLesFordian
See your first sentence to RoseBlood. In an awful lot of your posts with those your in disagreement with you come off as angry, smug and a an arrogant jerk. Whether you actually were or not is irrelevant as perception is reality. It kills your message around God is what i was saying to you. The rest of the discussion is a distraction created by you instead of dealing directly with my thought of you sounding like a angry, smug, arrogant jerk. If you do not want to hear how you sound to those your communicating with over God your choice. If your to proud, ok.
Did you ever find verses about praying in general public? Still waiting. Doesn‘t everything have it’s place and time as you argued with RoseBlood? I argue prayer does as well.
I hope you have a great day.
Report Post »Ironeagle
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:09pmWell, he did keep the crowd engaged in the prayer…with most boring prayers, people day dream.
Report Post »PhillyD
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:07pmBoogity,Boogity,Boogity,,,,,Amen….lol that was funny
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:11pmagreed
Report Post »Arc
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:01pmIf I didn’t know better, I’d say the rev was fishing for some sponsors……..grin……
Report Post »t00nces2
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:09pmThe wife and I watched the race. We both saw the invocation and chuckled and loved it. We replayed it and loved it and chuckled again.
Report Post »Hula Calhoun
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:10pmCertainly sounds like it!
(why does the Blaze keep quoting Huffpo articles? Have they forgotten that Ariana is a Soros-bot? No, they can’t have forgotten; Beck hired former Huffpo employee to be CEO)
Report Post »Arcangel Michael
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:00pmJesus, I trust in You
Report Post »mikenleeds
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:57pmi think using god name is vain is a little tacky but no harm done
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:04pmIsn‘t using God’s name in vain a violation of the 3rd Commmandment? I would think that qualified as some kind of “harm”.
Report Post »R4M0N
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:10pmI don’t know… but… I think one of the ten commandments doesn’t agree with your assertion. LOL…
Report Post »inexiletill2012
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:24pmSorry…I must ask…..How did the Pastor use the Lords name in “vain”…I dont really expect a retort because the Pastor did NOT use the Lords name in vain
Report Post »mjhillalabama
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:03pmNow, as for Jeremiah Wright…………..
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:09pmInexile, many religious people would consider irreverent invocation of God to be taking his name in vain. If I said, “I swear to God these are the best chicken wings I have ever tasted”, that would be a classical instance according to all traditional interpretations of taking his name in vain. Some might think thanking God for his “smokin’ hot wife“ and ”boogity boogity boogity” was also using God’s name flippantly and without due honor and reverence, i.e. using it in vain.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:57pmThis prayer by this Baptist “pastor” was not a reverential prayer to the Almighty God. Joke prayers are disgusting to those who love and respect the True God who deserves all respect, honor, and gratitude. I used to be a Baptist, now I know better.
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:20pmLaughter is one of the best gifts given to us. If you cannot see that, then you have been blinded by your own ideals.
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:49pmTHIS IS NASCAR!
Report Post »He thanked our great and might God for the things that make NASCAR – NASCAR!
Saying thank you for my smoke’n hot wife….well I do the same thing daily!
This is supposed to be a fun event and he made it a bit better! I want that guy to come pray at our little league games so the kids can see God is good and fun!
In this day and age when my God and Lord Jesus are banned almost e-were we need stuff like this!
My heart has been soooooo heavy lately this helped!
Go pastor GO!
Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:56pmFavored, isn’t the purpose of a pastor and a prayer not to reflect the event where it is made but rather the God to whom it is made? Shouldn’t a prayer offer a contrast to the worldly fun being had? There is nothing wrong in fun, but there are far more important things. And in our age where we want to be entertained all the time shouldn’t a prayer at such an entertainment seek to carve out a space where we focus on God and not just on having a good time, just to balance things out at least? Prayer doesn’t belong to NASCAR. It belongs to God. People who don‘t want to stop the party just for a little prayer aren’t the people who will restore the nation.
Once upon a time, when men wore hats, they would take their hats off and bow their heads when they prayed. What kill joys, huh? Aren‘t we all glad we’re not like THOSE generations.
Report Post »HankScram
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 6:38pmFortunately God has told people like Blacktooth how we should pray. Now Blacktooth can teach the rest of us the proper way. It’s great that there are people out there who know exactly what God wants us to do, which religion to join, what sect . . . . and its nice they are willing to share their knowledge with the rest of us. Please keep telling everyone around you what God wants those who know – since you know (and your group knows). As we learn from you, the rest of us will just do our best.
(please list any titles your church has bestowed upon you so we know your qualifications)
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 9:22pm“Once upon a time, when men wore hats, they would take their hats off and bow their heads when they prayed. What kill joys, huh? Aren‘t we all glad we’re not like THOSE generations.”
I just gotta say, not much irritates me more than the disrespect displayed by not removing your hat.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 9:40pmHankScram,
Who I am is not important. I am no one special in any way. I state my opinion here just like everyone else.
I do shape my comments based on my education of God’s Word, the Bible and I try to give references when needed and if no references are stated, it is assumed you already have sufficient knowledge to understand what I am saying. Sometimes I will ask a question without giving a answer to solicit thought and further comment on the subject at hand.
Blacktooth
Report Post »vrwconspire
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:57pmYeah, this guy is cool and “with it,” but is that what God is really looking for?
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:15pmWhat is god looking for? Has he spoken to you lately? Maybe god appreciates life in all its forms, including the funny ones.
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:58pmThe ONLY thing I think he missed is to ask for their safety but I think in that race God answered the unspoken request!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:17pmGod speaks to us all the time, roseblood. And if you bothered to read the book you so scorn you might find out what he has to say.
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 9:17pmI have not scorned your book in anything I have said, I have simply offered my view of what I have read… yes, I read the Bible, eleven times. I found it to be an interesting collection of stories passed down through history by oral and written tradition.
Report Post »Perspective
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:57pmGive me beans and cornbread over Barry’s hope and change anyday!
Report Post »IAMNOTKNOWING
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:56pmBreaker 1-9 for a sense of humor, Good Buddy! ;D
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:57pmI’m gonna have to try that “boogedy, boogedy, boogedy in my prayers, just to see if it works.
Report Post »Utahdrifter
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:51pmMan–I wanta meet this guy. Now that would be a fun time.
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:50pmI am on the fence about this one. One one hand, I know God has a sense of humor. He could appreciate lightening up a moment that may otherwise be full of anxiety. (No, I have never been to a Nascar race but I would think some would be nervous, like the wives.)
But on the other hand, it was all jest and no seriousness. You cannot consider that an actual prayer. Joking around cannot be a substitute for actual communication with God.
Did the pastor pray a true prayer after the fake one? If so, then I don’t see any harm.
Report Post »dont tread
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:11pmIf God didn‘t like humor then he wouldn’t have given it to us.
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:11pmWhat would be an ‘actual prayer’? Something with a bunch of ‘thanketh thee’ and ‘humble thou’?
Any communication with your god is good communication. A prayer should be as unique as the person saying it.
TumbleBumble
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:37pmDONT TREAD ~
“If God didn‘t like humor then he wouldn’t have given it to us.”
I already addressed that. And besides, there is a time and place for everything. Just because we have a sense of humor doesn’t meant that we should go to a funeral and tell jokes or pull pranks. I know my example is an extreme, but fact is I didn‘t feel any sense of blessing by this pastor’s words.
ROSEBLOOD ~
“What would be an ‘actual prayer’? Something with a bunch of ‘thanketh thee’ and ‘humble thou’?”
Are you saying that there is nothing in between? Pastor Joe was spoofing the comedy Talladega Nights. It was meant to get a laugh. I can appreciate that. But if you are there to give an invocation, then be sincere.
“Any communication with your god is good communication. A prayer should be as unique as the person saying it.”
Absolutely. But he was speaking as a representative of the group before him. It wasn’t a personal one-on-one with God. I have a term of endearment I use when speaking quietly with Him. I would not use it when giving a blessing publicly.
I believe it was all for show and not heartfelt. Going for the reaction of the people and not God’s favor.
Report Post »dont tread
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:50pmIt was at a NASCAR race! Is anything taken seriously there?!
Report Post »roseblood
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:53pm“But he was speaking as a representative of the group before him. It wasn’t a personal one-on-one with God… I believe it was all for show and not heartfelt. Going for the reaction of the people and not God’s favor.”
Report Post »It seems he may have represented the group before him fairly well, in a way that connected to them. I know that the chaplain on my last ship had a great line in his prayer blessing our departure from port: “… and for those Sailors new to the open seas, may God toss a bucket your way when you most need it.” Humorous with a message of protection, and directly appealing to the audience of the prayer.
serkin
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:57pmCan’t help but think more people heard and are still hearing about this conversation with God. And, at least a few are thinking who might not otherwise and thus step one in the learning process…has to be a good thing The Lord knows Pastor Nrims heart and if he is sincere or if he is edifing or drawing attention to himself that he might be thought of more highly than deserved. While I like what he thinks of his wife mine just told me I’d better not say that sort of thing ’bout her in public I won’t! Sure wish I could find a “spellcheck feathure’
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 4:48pmROSEBLOOD ~
“… and for those Sailors new to the open seas, may God toss a bucket your way when you most need it.”
I actually love that. It gets the point across in a light-hearted framing of words, and fits the description of what I was referring to in my original post.
The difference between that of the chaplain and that of Pastor Joe is that the chaplain’s heart was his own guide. Pastor Joe took Ricky Bobby’s words and replaced them with ones that fit the occasion. Again, for the chuckles.
SERKIN ~
“Can’t help but think more people heard and are still hearing about this conversation with God. And, at least a few are thinking who might not otherwise and thus step one in the learning process…has to be a good thing ”
It may bring some to the realization that talking with God doesn’t have to be in total seriousness. And yes, that would be a good thing. But I also think that those who are not used to prayer would see Pastor Joe’s ramblings as an advertisement for cars, tires and the like.
I really didn’t want to argue about this. I don’t find it that important, just distasteful and irreverent. So I guess I have made up my mind and jumped off the top of the fence into the ‘this was wrong’ camp.
Thanks, you three, for helping me sift through and make up my mind! :)
Report Post »romadave
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:46pmGod has a sense of humor. It’s funny, this guy would have been even more controversial if he thanked Jesus for sacrificing himself for our sins. Why not thank the Lord for things that bring us joy in life!
Toyota, Dodge, Ford employ hundreds of thousands of people and allow them to make house payments and feed their families. A wise man once said the greatest blessing from God is to be able to enjoy your work and your lot in life. And to enjoy your smokin hot wife in the days of your youth.
Report Post »Amren
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:12pmNot to be TOO much of a downer, but it sure seems like a lot of folks here claim to know the mind of God. What must that be like? Is the only way you know God has a sense of humor because you see it in the mirror every morning? God is holy. He may have a sense of humor, He may not. I‘m going to go with the whole not taking the Lord’s name in vain side, until He tells me different to my face.
Report Post »romadave
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:54pmQuote: ‘Not to be TOO much of a downer… Is the only way you know God has a sense of humor because you see it in the mirror every morning?’
That’s not being a downer, that’s being a jerk. Why did you feel the need to insult me? You don’t even know me.
I don’t claim to know the mind of God except what he tells us all about himself in scripture. Yes, we are to fear God and keep his commands. Absolutely God is awesome and praiseworthy. But scripture reveals a joyful side of the Lord as well.
See– Story of Baalam and his talking donkey
– changing Simon’s ( ‘Pebble’ ) name to Peter (‘the Rock’)
– ‘It’s easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven!’
– the Platypus
Or maybe I just find all us humans funny when I look in the mirror.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:45pmThis guy is cool.
Report Post »I’m sure the leftists will attack him at every opportunity.
jmbogstad
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:44pmGott love those race fans. I’m gonna git a ride in a Indy car myself in a couple weeks. I may even wear my Rednek outfit, like in this video, check it out.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On8eTIqhqRE
MONICNE
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:44pmHe means, “Smoking Hot Dogs” LOL
Report Post »Thighmaster
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:44pmLet‘s have a looksee at her and we’ll be da judge on her smoke meter.
Report Post »code green
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:53pmShe is as big as he is. I guess when you burn pork it smokes
Report Post »coryf076
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:42pmhe’s thankful….what’s wrong with that?
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:40pmOk – so – about the ECONOMY.
I think we are being ruled by BUFFOONS that wait until the LAST MINUTE to come up with a deal.
If this were a company – I’d quit
What sort of manager waits until they are at the DOOR to start to re-finance the home?
BOTH Democrats and Republicans are at fault here.
If you can’t do your JOB them we will find someone who can!!!
(Except for the Democrats – who will find someone that will promise them things)
Friggin IDIOTS – all of them.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:42pmits like a bunch of children… and none of them can get anything done. its pathetic.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:52pmAnd It’s STILL DIVIDED WE FALL ! Look in the mirror you are WE ! ! ! !
Report Post »You’d think the Dems would go for a Consumer Tax where all taxes are paid at the cash register,then theRICH would be paying more taxes than they ever would under any other system! The REPS NEED TO TAKE THE BEST DEAL THEY CAN GET! rIGHT NOW! Tea partiers need to understand they only have The HOUSE ! Cant get the tough love,legislation we want Right NOW ! However if our country‘s credit rate go’es down, and the stock market tanks it’s all us common folk that will feel like We got hit by the bat!
We cant Do that Third Party thing(president) this decade!
But together we could have 4-5 parties in the Senate & House to asure
we dont have this 2 party lockout system, and would truly have Real representation of the People.
And our current government should be punished with TERM LIMITS !
And It’s STILL DIVIDED WE FALL ! Look in the mirror you are WE ! ! ! !1 Reply
Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:05pmIt’s like trying to get homeowners insurance WHILE THE HOUSE IS BURNING TO THE GROUND!!!
HAVE A CLUE!!
I am not an expert at these thigns – but I would appreciate it if those who WERE EXPERTS would not “GUESS” what is going to happen…. just tell us what “IS” going to happen.
THAT way – we the PEOPLE might be able to tell you if we should sell the car to pay the bills or sell the house!!
MORONS!!!
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:37pmAmen ! & FOOD , SHELTER, AND HEALTHY CHILDREN !
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:37pmWhy are American hicks so repugnant on every level and clearly developmentally challenged to boot?
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:39pmWhy do liberals insist on name calling like 3rd grade school girls?
Report Post »jens63
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:45pmLighten up and enjoy a good laugh.
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:48pmthat cant be that dumb as they didnt vote for the plantation owner your butt budy adolph obamma
Report Post »4smohrs
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:51pmIt is because we are not homosexual, mulsim loving left wing lunatics from Neeeew York City, Yeeeehaaaaaaawwww!
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 2:57pmWhy because we have listen to idiots on the left so much. If they would learn to keep their mouths closed then they might learn something.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:23pmWhy do liberals, like BAIKONUR, hate America so much? Why do they feel the need to always think they are superior? Because you live in a city? I know a hell of a lot more “American hicks” who are mental giants compared to the pea-sized-intelligence of the employment-challenged liberals I see most everyday.
Report Post »bitter clinger
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:28pmOpen your heart to Jesus then your anger and hatred will fade away.
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