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Paul Slams Santorum, Says Social Issues Are a ‘Losing Position’ for the GOP

Ron Paul Says Social Issues Are a Losing Position for the GOP

With the Susan G. Komen/Planned Parenthood controversy, 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturning Prop 8 and the controversial Obama administration contraception mandate, national political discussion over the last few weeks has shifted to social issues. Libertarian-leaning Republican presidential candidate Texas Rep. Ron Paul told Candy Crowley on CNN Sunday that the shift is a “losing position” for the GOP, and slammed rival candidate Rick Santorum for his positions on the issue while “pretending he’s a conservative.”

Paul said on CNN’s State of the Union that he doesn’t believe that the surging former Pennsylvania senator can beat President Obama in a general election, and associated what rival candidates and others challenging the Obama administration have called a fight for religious freedom, as simply an argument about “who’s going to pay for birth control pills.“ Paul emphasized that he is more concerned about ”the undermining of our civil liberties.” Paul went on to further criticize his fellow Republican candidate Rick Santorum:

“He wants to control people’s social lives. At the same time, he voted for Planned Parenthood. I mean, I don’t see how anybody can get away with that inconsistency pretending he’s a conservative. And his voting record is, I think from my viewpoint, an atrocious voting record, how liberal he’s been and all the things he’s voted for over his many years in the Senate and in the House.”

The National Journal notes that Santorum admitted in a 2006 interview on Fox News that he supported Title X, a government program that provides funds for family planning services, including access to contraceptives. Santorum explained that while he believes in access to contraceptives, he personally feels they’re harmful to women and that abstinence education is a “healthier” option.

Based off experiences during his career as a gynecologist, Rep. Paul has long stated his belief that life begins at conception, has called for the repeal of Roe v. Wade and is adamantly against federal funding for abortions and organizations like Planned Parenthood. Paul supported the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, but also came out in support of the Defense of Marriage Act.

Mediaite video of Paul’s remarks on CNN Sunday:

 

Comments (230)

  • Eric_The_Red_State
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:56pm

    Id vote for Casey Anthony over Obama

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    • broker0101
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:11pm

      Good for you Eric. That’s incredibly profound.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:49pm

      Unfortunately, Ms. Anthony is not eligible to run this year as she is not yet old enough.

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    • TheObamanation
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:51pm

      I‘d vote for the barefoot bandit before I’d vote for obama.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:16am

      i believe the issues that are most important to all of us is……….debt-big government-border security and tax reform and the growing islamic threat to our freedom……….anyone have anything to add

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    • JoeKing
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:32am

      OLDGUY49, I’d add the sorrowful and near complete disregard for The U.S. Constitution by our government. The fact that the voting majority doesn’t seem to care in the least. It honestly scares the be-jeezus out of me. Can someone explain to me why the people don’t seem to understand how bad this is? Why don‘t ’We the People’ seem to care? It is seriously going to be too late very soon to do anything about it. I’m scared.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:38am

      People should be more concerned about what the candidates will do differently from President Obama, because the problems with debt will still persist, and will be much worse.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:01am

      Doesn‘t matter much how you’d vote. Half the nation gets a handout from our government, that stole it from the other half. When you include teacher trough feeders, we’re screwed. Critical mass is close, if we haven’t reached it already. Too many takers and not enough producers. Too many losers and not enough hard working winners.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 3:53am

      The_Jerk
      “When you include teacher trough feeders”

      There are a lot of problems with our education system, and a lot of bad teachers, but teaching is work and teachers aren’t particularly well-paid in comparison with other people of the same educational level. We would certainly have even fewer winners and producers without them.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:28am

      I recall reading somewhere –”What profit a man if he should gain the world but lose his very soul?”
      Seems an apt consideration of what the clown Ron Paul has declared. I we are no longer a Moral and Religious people then we are no longer fit to be called Americans. If we reject the wisdom of Noah Webster in favor of the pandering of godless politicians like Ron Paul then we lose.no matter who gets selected.My vote is for Santorum.OR perhaps Mr.Newt.I will NOT vote for Obama–Romney,or Paul.

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:56am

      Chet Hempstead

      I would have to strongly disagree with your assumption. Teachers are paid way more than they are worth. When the average wage in a community is under 50K and teachers are paid 60-70K for working only 6 hours a day and 9 months out of a year plus benefits there is a fundamental problem. Especially when the schools are producing graduates that can only read and write at a 8th grade level after 12 years of school. The communities needs to take back the education system and get rid of the useless, corrupt Teachers unions.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:45am

      Stonyburk. Are you that short sighted. Ron Paul is not against religion. He is for YOU and YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS in your respective STATES being free to determine what role religion is going to play in your lives. My fear is that people like you are excactly like people from the left who can’t stand what might be going on in another state. Second, if you think it‘s the Fed’s job to preserve your liberty from your state, you will get none. Want proof, open your eyes, man!

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    • SgtB
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:57am

      @ Chet, I‘m gonna call BS on that assumption that teachers don’t get paid enough. I live in Oklahoma. We are in the bottom 5 of teacher salaries and funding per student. Even at our low standing in the US, we still pay > $5,000 per child per school year. With a typical class size of ~20 children (often times up to 30), that means that the income the school system receives per class is ~$100,000 and the school system doesn’t have to provide any of the paper, pens, crayons, tissues, etc. The school sytem only has to pay teacher salaries, construction costs, maintenance, and utilities. That said, the teachers in my area earn >$35,000 / year working just 9 months and they only have to deal with the children for 6 hours and then if they need to grade papers, they can do that in 2 hours a day, if it takes longer than that, then they aren’t doing it right. Where I live, 35K a year is a pretty decent salary and it is more than enough to put food on the table, a roof over your head, and light to read by. Add to this the fact that most teachers get a summer job, and their income can easily rise to >40k / year. That is NOT a bad salary. That is more than I ever saw as a Marine.

      Also, there is the old saying that those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach. So if a teacher were really good at what they taught, they would use that skill to actually earn a living in the profession. I think we more than fairly compensate teachers.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:00am

      Santorum is for BIG government (that translates into big spending)

      His records shows him voting to increase spending 53 times — to cut spending? 0 times!

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:47am

      I like Ron Paul. I love Ron Paul. But to most americans “conservative” means you’re both fiscally and socially conservative. Saying Santorum isn’t a conservative is ridiculous. He‘s doesn’t have a perfect record but neither does Dr. Paul. His social record is very conservative. His fiscal record is more mixed but against the measure of the electorate in this country, he’s still hailing from the right: conservative.

      Yes, he’s left of Ron Paul on fiscal and constitutional issues. That does not mean he’s not a “true” conservative.

      As for Ron Paul’s further criticisms about Santorum making social issues take the forefront, I think this is the media’s doing. And I agree with Dr. Paul that whoever the nominee is going to be, they need to keep most of the focus on Obama’s poor record. There are, however, excpetions like this contraception debate. But this shouldn’t be painted as a contraceptive debate, it should be about government intrustion into our lives. Obama is a democrat and like all democrats in my lifetime they want government to force the rest of us to live according to their concept of acceptable.

      Newt has the best ideas.
      Romney has the RNC’s blessing (and the funding to win).
      Santorum has the moral high ground.
      And Ron Paul loves the constitution and is the one I trust… but with some foreign policy ideas that I think are deeply flawed.

      And then we have Gary Johnson who may well be splitting the conservative and independent vo

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:18am

      @Dr.FROST
      Why do you think that Ron Paul gets more donations from the military than ALL of the other candidates COMBINED. Now INCLUDING OHMAMMA?
      Do you think that you know more about foreign policy than someone who has been there and experienced it first hand?
      All Ron Paul wants to do us follow the instructions that were included with this country. That set of instructions is called the Constitution.
      It’s a roadmap that the Govt has been ignoring for decades, and now we are lost in the woods and about to get eaten by a giant bear.
      This set of instructions is what must bring the the right and the left together. It’s very simple. If it’s not in the Constitution, then don’t do it.
      If you don’t like the Constitution, then amend it, per the required process.

      The bottom line is that these other guys are actors, and posers. They only pay lip service to the Constitution when it sounds good. The rest of the time they are engaging in the cronyism that got us into this mess in the first place.
      Don’t get fooled again.
      Last chance to get it right.

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    • sonnetswan
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:26am

      @OLDGUY49, If the ‘muslim threat’ is such a problem, why do they leave our southern border completely open? It makes no sense. They are not genuinely concerned about the muslim threat, they just use it to scare the american people so the tsa can freely grope anyone wanting to travel by air.

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    • Zaggynuts
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 2:18pm

      “Unfortunately, Ms. Anthony is not eligible to run this year as she is not yet old enough.”

      Since when did eligibility matter to our elected reps? Obviously a candidate can say they are eligible ans our so-called leaders will take their word for it. Hell if Mao was still around, he could come to this country, claim to be eligible, and run for office. Our reps would be silent, and require no proof.

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    • GUT_CHECK
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 4:44pm

      GARY JOHNSON?
      SPLITTING THE CONSERVATIVE AND INDEPENDANT VOTE?
      for what?
      DOG CATCHER?

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  • kitcarker
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:56pm

    Look folks, gay marriage and abortion have zero place in this election,they are distractions from the many real issues we face that are the life or death of our country!I am not saying these age old issues have their place, but not right now.
    The main goal is defeat that thing in office and dethrone the radical left in the senate.we cannot afford to remove our eye from the big picture

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    • neverending
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:11pm

      Agree wholeheartedly.

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    • SHASTADIANE1
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:12pm

      Amen!!!

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    • inblack
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:17pm

      @KITCARKER

      Abortion will NEVER have a zero place in any election.

      If you are not for the human right to life you can throw the constitution and everything else away.

      Abortion will ALWAYS be my number one issue. Being anti-life is the ultimate deal breaker.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:58pm

      The reality is that Ron Paul is the only honest candidate with a consistent record of voting the Constitution 100% of the time. The reasoning behind decriminalizion of non violent offenses is to remove them from the Federal level and place the power to criminalize back in the hands of the states as intended by the Constitution.
      He wants to balance the budget by ceasation of policing the world and nation building cutting one trillion a year. We have given twice the amount of aide to Istael’s enemies than to Israel..We have tied Israel’s hands regarding self defense..think Bush Previous Presidents have leaned on her to give up two thirds of what she had.. Paul believes in Israel’s soverignty and her rights to defend herself. Would let going to war for her be a Congressional decision..get in..win..get out. Would remove 5 Communistic/Islamic government departments/
      As for abortion..making it illegal will cause back street abortions..you cannot force a woman to carry a fetus she does not want. Bringing Christian morals and principles..abstaining from sex before marriage would go a long way in alleviating this problem as it would the drug problem also.. education..rehabilitation.God is the answer..and much praying.
      All of the other candidates could care less about the Constituiton and are nation building war mongering taxing, anti first and second amendment candidates..will take away free speech..personal freedom and gun rights.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:28am

      All of our economic issues are the result of social issues… Violations of Commandments 1-3 place the worship of things and idols (love of money) at the top rather than God therefore people steal (thou shalt nor steal); lie (thou shalt not bear false witness) envy and greed (though shalt not covet) abortion (thou shalt not murder) Social Security & Medicare & welfare (honor thy father and mother – government takes care of our elders rather than we do it ourselves); work to acheive more stuff ( remember the Sabbath and again commandments 1 – 3)

      Get the society in line with the laws of God and the economic issues take care of themselves

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    • insight
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:29am

      Social issues and government, is there anything more liberal then that? I dont recall seeing anything about NASCAR, evangelism, country music, or homophodia in the Constitution (no mention of Jesus either) and yet thats all the mainstream media says we are intersted in. We need a major overhaul on our image because there is nothing cooler then freedom.

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    • No Free Beer
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:43am

      This election needs to be about economic and monetary policy. Ron Paul is exactly right. That being said, abortion is never at zero. But, the best and most effective way to curb abortions is to leave it as a state issue because as Dr. Paul said, “you would overturn Roe vs Wade over night.“ You are not going to win an election saying things like ”gays cant get married!” or drumming abortion over people’s heads. It just won’t happen. And this is coming from someone (myself) who is hugely pro-life. You have to face reality here and Dr. Paul is the only one who seems to understand this. Ron Paul has been the most consistent CONSERVATIVE up there. Stop listening to the talking heads and start doing your own research.

      Ron Paul 2012.

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:12am

      @Insight

      You’re right, we Americans really need to learn what it TRULY means to enjoy freedom. Freedom is more than just watching or attending NASCAR events, listening to country music (I’m no fan of country music, anyway), and/or spreading Christianity, and it certaintly isn’t about homophobia. Sure, they’re all good stuff (except homophobia), but how can you say you enjoy freedom if you won’t let others enjoy events and viewpoints that may moderately or vastly differ from the mainstream? Isn’t freedom defined as “living your life the way you want, so long as your actions doesn’t infringe on the rights of other folks?” When the American folks start returning to the Constitution, we’ll be able to truly live as a free nation, the way our Founders intended 236 years earlier.

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:49am

      I agree but I think it’s the media trying to push the debate to social issues, not Santorum. The contraceptive debate is more about government intrustion than birth control.

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    • GUT_CHECK
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 4:48pm

      CHANCES ARE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A LAME DUCK
      for your next president

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:51pm

      @Ashe. Its simple, if she didnt want the kid.. dont spread them legs. She has a right to do with HER body. The baby is not her body.

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  • SychinLegacy
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:55pm

    You know what’s funny? Read an anti-paulbot’s post. All of their arguments are verbatum copies from Beck Pat and Rush. Literally, verbatum. They don’t even know an original argument. Just repeat what their shepherds tell them.

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    • slr4528
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:06pm

      You got that right.

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    • Dougral Supports Israel
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:06pm

      For a while Beck seemed to like Paul, said he was the closest to the Founders of all the candidates. The Paul unveiled his foreign policy. He seemed to agree with the leftists that America was at fault for aggravating the Muslims, that isolationism was the answer. Well, its not. We have real enemies in the world. Muslims think we are the Great Satan, China wants and expects the lion‘s share of the world’s resources and Russia is grinding the axe because of the defeat of the Soviet Union. Running behind our borders will not resolve these problems.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:16pm

      1- he is not an isolationist (a vapid talking point)
      2- you do know that we have funded everyone in the middle east we are currently fight against right? this includes (not limited to) taliban, saddam, iran, bin ladin, etc.
      3- we are perceived as a great satan because of all of the civilian casualties we have caused either by dierct warfare, economic sanctions or by supporting dictators.

      please get a clue.

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    • Airgun
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:25pm

      OK, how about this one?
      I can‘t vote for anyone who’s political philosophy is “The end justifies the means”
      After seeing firsthand the Paulistinians cheat the people out of their choice of delegates in the Iowa caucus by loading the selection process, thereby nullifying the vote- and watching the same thing happen here in my home town in MN, I will do every thing in my power to alert the citizenry that RP is using BO style tactics to steal the nomination.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:32pm

      so, he’s crooked for following the rules?

      that is a serious charge sir…

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:32pm

      Oh come on, Airgun. Paul‘s supporters working the system within the established rules isn’t cheating. Trucks carrying the votes from 8 counties, including Aimes (a college community) vanishing into thin air is cheating.

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    • KAdams
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:34pm

      @Airgun: So who‘s actually ’using those tactics’.. the Paulistians, as you so cleverly dubbed them(so witty!) or Ron Paul? Do you have actual proof(you know, links to stories, maybe you got some of your own video footage)?

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    • tzion
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:46pm

      Not all of us who don’t support Paul are anti-paulbots. Personally, I don’t mind Paul all that much. He’s just not my first choice. Unlike some I can see the flaws in his record and views and recognize them. Man isn’t perfect so it stands to reason that there would be no perfect candidate. Everyone has flaws and I define paulbots as those who either excuse or ignore Ron Paul’s flaws. Personally, I would like to see Santorum get in. I’d still choose Paul over Romney and I would never vote for Gingrich.

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:47pm

      “They don’t even know an original argument. Just repeat what their shepherds tell them.”

      Actually, you just defined a Paulbot. Congratulations.

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    • Dougral Supports Israel
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:54pm

      @Br@dley he Muslims were America’s first enemy, back in the days when we tried to follow the policy of non-entanglement. They attacked our shipping and demanded ransom. Jefferson sent our Navy to Libya to kick butt on these pirates. their descendants have been after us and every non-Muslim country since. Read the news, everywhere there is a border between Islam and another culture there is war. The Muslims hate the Jews, Christians, Hindus and Buddhists. Heck they will kill the atheists too because atheists have no God. There is no appeasing or making peace with these people until Islam agrees to live with others in peace.

      Sure we have supported dictators but our dictators are nothing like the dictators that arise in that part of the world by themselves. Mubarak was a brutal man, but did he threaten to blow whole countries off the map with nuclear weapons? Ahmadinajad did and he will if he gets the chance. So, what would Paul do with that?

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:57pm

      You forgot Jeffrey Lord & Mark Levin : Ron Paul is a neo-liberal, not a conservative!
      http://www.therightscoop.com/jeffrey-lord-on-mark-levin-show-ron-paul-is-a-neo-liberal-not-a-conservative/

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:10am

      please don’t lecture me about the burbary war. the letter of mark and reprisal is not a foreign concept to any ron paul supporter. if you paid any attention, you would know that he (RP) frequently talks about this principle.

      and your assertion that “our dictators are better than theirs” is asinine.

      this is the problem with you people, all talking points, no substance. you lemmings will chant “anyone but obama” right off a cliff.

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    • Dougral Supports Israel
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:38am

      Br@dley Compare the dictators and see what you come up with. Try to draw equivalence. If all you have is the weak word asinine then you have lost. Compare the leaders we have supported with the leaders of the so-called Palestinians whose only aim in life is to kill Jews. How does that stack up? Yes, the people we have supported are dirty, but not nearly as dirty as those that arise on their own. Obama demanded the ouster of Mubarak, now we have the Muslim Brotherhood. Wait three years and see what comes of them. Obama demanded the ouster of Ghaddafi who was a true stinker but what will take his place? Clue: The Al Qaeda flag was already seen flying in Benghazi. I think a chapter is unfolding there too.

      The Arab Spring is a myth and a dangerous one. The people in the Middle East (except for Israel) have no concept of democracy or how to run a free society. Unfortunately there is no shortage of zealots who know how to implement Sharia law. They will now have their way and America ( and other nations) will wish for the days of the controlled dictators.

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    • SychinLegacy
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:46am

      Oh god I love the “AMERICA’S FIRST ENEMY WAS THE BARBARY PIRATES” talking point. First of all the tyrannical British were America‘s first enemy but that’s just a technicality.

      The Barbary pirates were just that. Pirates. Not the Barbary Jihadists. Or the Barbary Martyrs. The Barbary pirates. They were nothing more than thieves on the high seas. They were not motivated out of a need to eradicate jews and christians. They only wanted to steal and they didn’t care from who.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:10am

      you people are hopeless.

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  • TheObamanation
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:50pm

    I don’t want to hear Ron Pauls squeaky voice for four years … so I’m not voting for him.

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  • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:47pm

    Ron Paul has doused himself with gasoline and lit a match on this topic. Ron Paul’s leftist and liberal musings and endorsement on a variety of social issues ranging from his unwavering support for newfangled “gay rights”… to include open homosexuality in the military… to advocacy for across-the-board legalization of illicit drugs are a losing proposition for him, not mention that Ron Paul has demonstrated that he has a dangerous, fundamental misunderstanding of the threat posed to every American by radical Islam. This alone disqualifies him for serious consideration as CIC. Look no further than the Iranian constitution, which states unequivocally that their mission is to extend jihad across the world and eventually to set up a worldwide caliphate. We would be fools to ignore their purpose and plan.

    Ron Paul evidently is one of those fools. Iran is today’s version of Nazi Germany, and Ron Paul’s obtuse strategy of reckless inaction affords him the dubious title of this generation’s Neville Chamberlain. Like Chamberlain’s fruitless appeasement, Paul’s similar strategy simply feeds the insatiable beast.

    Ronald Reagan often spoke of a “three-legged stool” that undergirds true conservatism. The legs are represented by strong free-market economic principles, a strong national defense and strong social values. For the stool to remain upright, it must be supported by all three legs. If you snap off even one leg, the stool collapses under its own weight.

    TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12  
    • SychinLegacy
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:52pm

      Dude no one takes you seriously here. You wouldn’t know logic if it came and hit you upside the head.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:57pm

      indeed.
      your posts are always devoid of intellect. you should give up, seriously.

      Report Post » Br@dley  
    • UBETHECHANGE
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:00pm

      Bingo!

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:01pm

      He’s a retired Marine who served in Nam. I care what he thinks even though I think he’s wrong most of the time.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:02pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:47pm

      Ronald Reagan often spoke of a “three-legged stool” that undergirds true conservatism. The legs are represented by strong free-market economic principles, a strong national defense and strong social values. For the stool to remain upright, it must be supported by all three legs. If you snap off even one leg, the stool collapses under its own weight.
      ============================================

      Ronald Reagan also distributed weapons to Iran (using Israel as a proxy) during the Iran-Contra scandal of 1986-1987:

      “The scandal began as an operation to free six American hostages being held by a terrorist group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the U.S. would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of six U.S. hostages. The plan deteriorated into an arms-for-hostages scheme, in which members of the executive branch sold weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the American hostages.”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Contra_affair

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:05pm

      TROLLTRAINER. I keep waiting for some training as some would call me a troll. I’m constantly disappointed however. Refresher course for you at TROLLTRAINER Univ. on-line courses. Take it. You need it.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:09pm

      JUST. That would be Army, but thank you. Wrong? Hardly…

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    • SHASTADIANE1
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:15pm

      I hear ya! He stands a snowballs chance in hello….

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    • BackstepAndShift
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:26pm

      Go crawl back under that pile of dung you crawled out from under… your stinking up the place!

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:29pm

      KID. Individual freedom, respect for constitutional limitations on government, and traditional values was Ronald Reagan’s message. There was a sense of purpose. America as a “shining city on a hill.” Ron Paul‘s supporters don’t want to talk about “values.” Leave out the stuff about marriage, family, and abortion, please, and just talk about the economy blah-blah-blah.

      The materialism and moral relativism that created our left-wing culture is now infecting our youth like you KID on the right. Young Republicans may be pushing back on government, but too often now your motivation is like your left-wing contemporaries. A sense of entitlement and an interest in claiming rights with little interest in corresponding personal responsibilities.

      Ron Paul’s groupies like you have little interest in a Reagan-like “shining city on a hill” message, or talk about a threatening “evil empire” abroad.

      To the contrary, you are excited by the “leave me alone” candidate who thinks the rest of the world is not our business. Apparently you share Paul’s indifference to the looming threat of a nuclear Iran or the almost complete absence of the freedom you think is most important in Islamic nations.

      In his farewell speech, Reagan issued a warning to the nation: “… are we doing a good enough job teaching our children what America is and what she represents in the long history of the world?”

      I doubt that Paul’s vision of America is what Reagan had in mind.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:38pm

      STEPN’FETCHIT. Ron Paul’s calling. He needs his eyebrow toupee put back on again. Bring the glue. Licking it and just sticking it on ain‘t workin’.

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    • circleDwagons
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:48pm

      the best way to help the Iranian people is to bomb them so says St. rick and TIME 4 War

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:06am

      CIRCLED. Yeah, and I’m a baby killer too. Saw your kind when I was coming back from ‘Nam… wasn’t impressed then, certainly not impressed now. Just pushed ‘em outa’ my way…

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:18am

      Really? My rebuttal to Time_to_end was removed by the idiotic blaze monitors? Really? I imagine it was Time himself who reported it, I mean, I did call him a village idiot. Wah, I expect much more from a Nam Vet. I thought for sure he was a man and not a sniveling coward. If I am wrong then I apologize, maybe it was not you who reported the post. Only you know. I am old school, I can go at it with people and still respect them. What I cannot respect is the multiple names, passive/aggressive inciting, and other childish troll behaviors. While you, Time, refer to yourself as a troll in your previous post to me I would not! I can disagree with you, argue with you, and even call you names, but I still respect you and respect your right to voice your views. I pray I am wrong about you now and it was not you that reported my post. I expect you would give me my chance at a comeback.

      Too many whiny, crybaby cowards in here, please don’t be one of them Time_to_change.

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    • Morgan Hopson
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:29am

      Wow that is intense! No candidate is perfect. The war on drugs is a lost cause. We endanger our borders because we refuse to change a policy that fuels the Drug Cartels that are bleeding the Mexican Government which plays heavily into the illegal immigration. Three legged stools good analogy but not good policy. I agree social issues are important, but the culture in America has changed. We are on the brink of not having a dominant culture which is bad. Look at any other nation that doesn’t have a dominant culture, bad news. We are all over the world spread to thin militarily. It is too late Iran is going to get a nuke. Thanks to poor leadership. If we attack Iran now, It will incite a nuclear war, the stage for WW3 is set. Our debt is high, our borders are not secure, and our military is spread to thin. We are fitting the bill for failed states from the past. We need RP so we can get a handle on our debt, secure our borders, at least then we will have a chance to survive. If not there will be no city on a hill. We will be but a forgotten footnote in the history books. We have become nationalized. We need states rights restored this will increase Americans input in laws leading to localized assimilation which goes a long way in reinforcing cultural expectations. The other option is vote Obama,Santorum,Gingrich,Romney: with that we either attack Iran and start WW3 or Default and start WW3. You think our creditors are going to write off our debt? They will want land. then WW3

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:12am

      ROTFLMAO at TROLLTRAINER. Apology accepted. I don’t report posts. All I see you doing here is playing with yourself. If someone complained about your post… beats me who it was and I don’t really care… matters to me not. I have had posts whined about, removed, denied to even be posted. Have you ever seen me cry about it like your childish rant here? ”

      Old School?” Troll in my estimation is a word used by the nerdiest of computer users, an infantile description adopted by the younger generation who was babied with a computer mouse in their pockets as oppposed to a pacifier in the yaps. Merely a way to try and marginalize a poster… nothing more. If you feel you need to continue.. well, be my guest. Continue to play with yourself.

      I might add however, that another poster here may have complained as they saw YOU as the (and I hate to use this description)* troll*, or a *village idiot*, or whatever… who the heck knows? Stop your whining and toughen up… “old school.”

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:34am

      MORGAN. Paul is going to lose for three simple reasons. First, his policies and priorities aren’t shared by most people except for the Paul base (ceiling). “Some” of his economic policies resonate with Republican voters, but most see him as too extreme. His trillion $$ cuts like I said in another post is “science fiction” and will cause millions upon millions of lost jobs. Not what we need in these tough economic times in America… no matter how it’s looked at by his cheering section. A presidential campaign is about emotions concerning a lot of different things. Paul is being pummeled regarding his stances on military policy, foreign policy and social issues. His views are far out of step with Republican voters primary and otherwise. That in itself kills his chances for the nomination, regardless of this delegate nonsense by the Paul groupies. Please just face it. You can’t talk people into agreeing with your logic, least of all me. It’s not going to happen.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:45am

      MORGAN. Sorry, forgot to give you #2, and #3 reasons why Paul won’t make it.

      Second is the media… nothing about him plays into any of the sort of story lines that media like to tell.
      The media need to reduce things to two candidates in order to tell a story. It’s just a matter of the TV people having to concentrate on the couple people they think have a shot, because that’s the way TV works. Romney and Santorum are those two. Paul has been, and still is an also ran, but does equate to some nice sound bites attacking the other two.

      The third is… Paul’s war on the war on drugs. Politcal suicide. easy as that.

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  • Dougral Supports Israel
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:46pm

    The problem is, the way Paul plays it he’s a loser too.

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  • TriforcePlayer
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:44pm

    Just shut up Paul you complete moron.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:05pm

      says the man whose screen name is pays homage to a nintendo game…

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  • trolltrainer
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:36pm

    Ron who?

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  • broker0101
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:35pm

    Oh, this one’s gonna be FUN to read! The Batshit crazy Paulites vs. the Batshit crazy Bible Thumpers. Have at it Half-Wits!

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    • UBETHECHANGE
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:48pm

      “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. ~Matthew 7:1-5

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    • dz283
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:48pm

      I’m not crazy! Rick Santorum is true conservative. Rick 2012.

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    • broker0101
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:50pm

      Hey UBE, Both God and you are both welcome to come and get me. Want my address? (I assume God already has it)

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    • broker0101
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:51pm

      UBE, Oh, wait, were you taking the Paulite side? I can’t keep you simpletons straight.

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    • Ohevi
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:57pm

      And why are you on the blaze? Troll idiot, comments like that can stay in your head, ok? We all thank you for not participating in the future. Punk

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:57pm

      Ah, you’re such a cute wittle troll.

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    • Shane74
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 2:24am

      @Broker0101 awwww, how cute! You’re trying to think!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:10am

      so who won?

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  • WEBWITHDEB
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:33pm

    I wonder if Santorum and Gingrich will be wearing their ashes to the debate on Wednesday . . .

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  • Stoic one
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:32pm

    my preference in order:
    !. Paul
    2. Santorum
    3. Gringrich
    4. Romney
    5. Mickey Mouse
    6. Any Body But obama

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    • broker0101
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:37pm

      Stoic: No one cares what you think or who your preferences are. Now send Glenn Beck some money. Rube.

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    • BikerMickAG
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:48pm

      1. Santorum
      2. Romney or Gingrich
      3. Demint, Ryan, Rubio, Palin,…
      4. Anybody but Obamao

      5. Paul

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    • SychinLegacy
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:50pm

      I have a better list:
      1) Paul

      And that’s the end of the list.

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    • broker0101
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:55pm

      BIKER:
      1) Your Sister
      2) Your other, fat Sister
      3) You Youngest Aunt
      4) Your Mother
      5) Barrack Obama
      6) Michelle Obama

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  • cous1933
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:31pm

    I watched the video and read the article and I believe that every word Dr. Paul said in that clip is the truth. Santorum has a very public record proving that he is no conservative. It’s so disappointing that so many “conservative” voters are so easily fooled.

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    • BikerMickAG
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:01pm

      Santorum’s record & his consistent position on the issues across his lifespan is more conservative than any other person in the race for this nomination. Romney has moved back & forth across the spectrum on many of the issues whether social or otherwise. Gingrich has personal life baggage that is extremely difficult to reconcile with having a conservative philosophy & his position on social & economic issues has been very much less than cohesive. Paul, while he has some outstanding positions on the economy, is so glaringly isolationist with most if not all of his foreign policy positions. I believe that if there was not the intense tension that exists throughout most of the world at this point in time in history, his foreign policy positions wouldn’t seem quite as dangerous.

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    • slr4528
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:16pm

      BIKERMIC

      Santorum approved all of GWB’s spending….how is that conservative. Santorum like Bush did nothing to secure the borders. Santorum voted for Medicare Prescription D and he voted against the use of e-verify. The Tea Party came into being due to the spending of the Republican controlled Congress under Bush. That is just one of the reasons Santorum did not get reelected in PA. Santorum also endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey. Specter won by a small margin and went on to vote for Obamacare and then went on to convert to a Democrat.

      Back in the 90′s there was an article in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette that showed Santorum was for abortion up until the last 3 months of pregnancy. Santorum is your typical career politician and washington insider who has made millions over the past 6 years selling his influence in Washington. He stands zero chance of beating Obama in the general election.

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    • neverending
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:31pm

      SLR4528 – Thanks for spelling out just a few of the things. He also was for No Child Left Behind and pouring more money into a disgusting and broken education system.

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  • Mr. Oshawott
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:29pm

    Ron Paul has it absolutely right. Social issues are used by the neo-conservatives to divert our attention from our real problems: our rising debt, massive government intrusion in our lives, government-sponsored corruption, and those meaningless wars (four of which were initiated without approval from Congress by Barack Obama). The neo-conservative candidates (Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney) have to constantly bring up social issues to get their supporters to focus on their glib rhetoric instead of their horrific voting records and questionable pasts. No way will I be fooled with this sort of trick! Ron Paul 2012!

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:50pm

      you are a day late and a dollar short. The neoliberal Paul may (or may not) have it right but he will NEVER be elected president. That is just as well because despite his being right on many issues he is also a freaking lunatic. So either pick your favorite neocon or sit this dance out. It will be business as usual.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:06pm

      trolltrainer
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:50pm

      you are a day late and a dollar short. The neoliberal Paul may (or may not) have it right but he will NEVER be elected president.
      ==================================

      Neither will Santorum though….

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:24pm

      santorum has a better shot than paul. most people havent heard about the news letters because they are still watching american idol. if paul is the nominee dont think it will not be an issue. it wont matter if he had anything to do with the news letters. like it or not it would be the racist anti-semite against the black guy.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:30pm

      Kid,

      I fully expect Romney will end up with the nomination. And I will vote for him in the election. No matter, all three are all the same, they are all RINOs of slightly different colors.

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:52pm

      @TrollTrainer

      “That is just as well because despite his being right on many issues, he’s also a…lunatic.”

      May I ask why you think Ron Paul is a “lunatic” and which of his policies you oppose and why?

      “So either pick your favorite neocon or sit this one out.”

      What a really STUPID remark. Your crude suggestion of voting for a candidate based merely on party line instead of character and principles is the reason why our country is so swamped with government-sponsored corruption. You want to vote for any one of those three neo-conservative candidates (Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney) that will only bring more of the same problems that Barack Obama brought (broken guarantees, massive debt, and undeclared, unjustifiable warfare)? You go ahead and do that. As for myself, I’m voting for the candidate that has spent the past 30+ years abiding by the Constitution and has taken the oath of defending it seriously.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:01am

      That candidate is not going to be the Republican nominee and I seriously doubt he will run third party. Now whatcha gonna do?

      Just for your information, and probably to the surprise of a great many in here, I did in fact vote for Paul in the Florida primary. Mostly for the sake of my own conscience for the reasons you cite. But I must admit I may have felt differently if I thought Paul had the slightest chance of actually winning. He is dangerous, more dangerous than your young mind can fathom. No matter who wins, this world is fixin’ to explode and we can not stay out of it. We are the one superpower left and like it or not we do dictate world affairs. Senseless wars are one thing, burying your head quite another.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:58am

      TREYMAN Those newsletters are a walk in the park compared to Santorum’s being named one of the three “most corrrupt” Senators out of 100 in 2006 for 2 years in a row…until he was voted out.. Seems he did some real hard working on getting laws passed like the ones which purportedly costs us taxpayers 400 million to send to Puerta Rico in the form of Medcare or Medicade payments..then Santorum reportedly received 395 thousand after leaving office supposedly in respect of that deal..not counting several others…so I am going to say that being on the take trumps not being “politically correct”

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:20am

      @TrollTrainer

      “That candidate is not going to be the Republican nominee…”

      It seems that you’ve spent WAY too much time drinking all that propaganda-laced Kool-Aid the neo-conservative/liberal progressive media has been dishing out. Maybe this YouTube video will help you think for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnkucrP3WyY
      Plus, I’m pretty sure that Ronald Reagan experienced this sort of problem before, that he was considered “unelectable”: http://www.nationalreview.com/the-feed/285893/flashback-gerald-ford-calls-reagan-unelectable

      “Now whatcha gonna do?”

      Simple. If Ron Paul decides to abandon the idea of a third-party run, I’m staying home this election season. No way am I planning on voting for the “lesser” of two evils, for that’s still voting for evil.

      “He is dangerous, more dangerous than your young mind can fathom.”

      And, I repeat: Why do you think Ron Paul is “dangerous” and which of his policies do you oppose and why? If you can’t answer this, then I will view your claim as a mere immature ad-hominem attack.

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:21am

      @TrollTrainer (cont.)

      “Senseless wars are one thing, burying your head, quite another.”

      How about showing me where in the Constitution does it allow the government to act as the world’s police force?
      And, while you’re at it, here’s a YouTube video in which Ron Paul explains his foreign policy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTB0GF5zk6k

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 2:59am

      @ashestoashes

      no, i think it is much easier to explain away the left wing hack site you are using for that corruption thing. i believe i was the first on this site to point out CREW was a hack organization as soon as you guys started using it. remember Christine O’Donnell and the smear job they did on her. knowingly filing false charges against her, all of witch were dropped for lack of evidence. now you expect me to trust them to be the arbiters of corruption. HA! not gonna fly. you should research who you are using as a basis of your charges. that being said, my earlier statement is 100% true. i am not blinded by a cult of personality. weather you like it or not if paul is the nominee it will be the racist anti-semite vs. the black guy. that is the way it will be spun and you know it. the ones who dont pay attention until september are going to believe it. and they will tune you guys out more than we do especially, because you guys cant seem to help yourselves, when you start insulting them. there is no way for him to become president and you guys are partly to blame for it. go talk to any person who publicly said anything negative about paul and they will tell you the same. rand paul, on the other hand, has a shot in the future. you may disagree with this now but i ask you to step out of the paul or die mentality for a minute and think on it and you will see i am right.

      also, instead of tearing everyone else down, try building your guy up. it might work better for y

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    • Morgan Hopson
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 5:32am

      My fellow Paulites, Paulbots, Paulinians, or whatever else they want to come up with. Ron Paul will Win the Nomination. He has a grass root swell that is never been seen before. Despite their strongest efforts to discredit Ron Paul they have failed. In Oklahoma, Dr. Paul has won every straw poll by a land slide. When I go to church, Local Restaurants, to OKC, To Norman OU campus, In Oklahoma City and Rural populations Ron Paul has overwhelming support across all demographics. We are often referred too as the Reddest state in the nation. Ron Paul is going to shock the nation the same way that Ronald Reagan shocked the nation. In Oklahoma we have a balanced budget amendment to our constitution. We are fervent supporters of the Constitution, and very weary of the national deficit. In talks at the local barber shop, cafe’s,and church Ron Paul has support unlike anything I have ever seen before. Obama’s push on this contraception with churches has pushed conservatives over to the Paul camp. From what I hear with Paul you know what your getting, and he will protect our freedom of religion and cannot be bought by lobbyist. Tea Party locals are upset at the Glenn Becks, Ann Coulter, etc, they express that Romney,Gingrich, and Santorum are strong on social issues, but they don’t trust them to handle the debt or defend the constitution. So thank you Obama, Ron Paul will win in 2012! I can’t wait until Super Tuesday. Media Polls Don’t Mean Jack

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:05am

      @Morgan Hopson

      sorry, straw polls and online polls mean nothing. the only thing that matters is primary or caucus day and ron paul has yet to win one. i do appreciate you staying positive for your guy though and not calling others names or citing left wing hack groups. you guys might make some headway if the rest would follow suit.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:27am

      @TREYMAN. Paul is the only one who has voted for our rights.. who can balance the budget if we hold Congressional and Senate feet to the fire.. You want a guy who is for taxing you into oblivion for that bigger government..who voted against gun rights. who is for the Patriot act..against your freedom both to speak and and self defense..someone who wants to make all of your decisions for you…someone who will continue to plummet this nation into debt. with ongoing wars… versus someone who can set you free.and get our nation back on track.. I wrote about Paul in an above post..I did give his strengths..so many with such limited thinking who think that business as usual will save us…it won’t..

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  • rotcarpenter
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:27pm

    Ron Paul should probably win a state first.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:35am

      its not about winner…….. its about helping Mitt Witt

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:26pm

    Hey Ron and Paulbots we will not be silent! “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”—Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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    • inblack
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:55pm

      @UBETHECHANGE

      What evil are you talking about? Contraceptives? Women working?

      Santorum is being suckered by the media – being set up to look like the right wing totalitarian.

      I think Rick’s heart is in the right place, but he needs to focus on promoting freedom of religion and not letting the media paint him as the “I will impose religion” guy.

      If You are proposing imposing religion on people I suggest you start praying on that idea,

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:08pm

      Have you not read all the post from the “Paulbots” speaking out against the evils of the Patriot Act and NDAA?

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  • CatB
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:25pm

    Perhaps we should talk about IRAN threatening the world and Paul thinking letting them have nukes is a okay!

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:55pm

      hahaha! i hope you don’t really believe that crap! do you have any idea how ignorant people sound when they say that?

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:01pm

      Everyone of these guys are human…they all make mistakes… I don’t know if we can afford Mr. Paul’s mistakes. …wouldn’t bet my life on it.

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    • inblack
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:09pm

      @CATB

      Once again the US is duped into playing world bully.

      We try to tell people in another country how to live. They gain stature by standing up to us. We harass them, commit acts of war like blockades and make their tin hat leaders look important. The Iranian people are left with no choice but to rally around their own flag.

      Eventually after antagonizing Iran long enough, they will take a swing at us and we will impose a 20 year occupation of Iran at the expense of young american’s and the american taxpayer. You chicken hawks need to look in the mirror.

      Try this – tell the people of Iran that we will ignore their big mouth leader, but if he uses nuclear weapons on the US or our allies we will flatten every city in Iran with nuclear missiles. Then let the Iranian people take care of their problem.

      Oh btw, Rick Santorum has supported sending more foreign aid to Israel’s sworn enemies than to Israel, so who is anti-Israel?

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:20pm

      @CatB

      Then perhaps you‘ll enlighten me as to where in the Constitution does it authorize the government to be the world’s police force?
      And while you’re at it, here’s a YouTube video featuring Ron Paul answering the question concerning the possibility of Iran getting a nuclear weapon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTB0GF5zk6k&feature=fvwrel

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    • CatB
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:03am

      LOL .. Paulbots are like Obamatrons .. you can show them their “man” saying the EXACT thing coming out of the persons mouth quoted word for word .. and they deny it!

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    • Shane74
      Posted on February 20, 2012 at 2:28am

      Let‘s say you’re right, CATB, and Iran is a THREAT. I’d RATHER FOLLOW THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO ATTEMPT TO STOP OUR NATION FROM BECOMING EITHER FASCIST, OR A TOTOLIATARIAN-COMMUNIST STATE IN WHICH WE ALL LOSE OUR FREEDOMS AND LIVE LIKE THE SOVIET PEOPLE, OR THE GERMAN PEOPLE, THAN WORRY ABOUT A NATION THAT WE CAN FLATTEN IN ABOUT 6 MINUTES IF THEY EVER SERIOUSLY ATTACKED US.

      I would rather that I DIE in ONE nuclear blast, than to see my ENTIRE nation ERASED FROM the historybooks.

      You’d rather worry about this TINY little NON-THREAT.

      And seriously, look into how the SAME PEOPLE who LIED to lead you into IRAQ, are at work with the IRAN narrative.

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  • neverending
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:18pm

    I agree with Ron Paul 100% – Santorum was a big spender. Just look at his voting record. AND our country is headed off the cliff and Santorum needs to get off the social issues and get on the much bigger problems that this country faces. We have one last chance if we are lucky and we had better get it right.

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  • kaygee
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:16pm

    Dr.Paul is 100%correct.Rick santorum is liar..
    people wants bread on the table not con….. pill….

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  • lukerw
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:15pm

    Are… all Social Issues… part of Socialism… thereby the strength of Democrats?

    I think… NOT!

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  • auntmoxie.com
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:14pm

    So, let me get this straight, Thepostman: a mother who realizes at 4 weeks that she is pregnant– despite using birth control–and who chooses to end a pregnancy at 4 weeks because she is taking medications that will likely result in serious birth defects (which will likely bankrupt her family) is no better than Hitler?

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    • inblack
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:35pm

      @AUNTMOXIE.COM

      Wow here come the hypothetical questions.

      Killing a baby because it might have been hurt my medication is wrong.

      If you start with the view of life, you stop to consider what the correct next step would be.

      Stop taking the dangerous drug and do all you can to help the baby grow healthy.

      If they are born with a defect, that is not a reason to kill them.

      Your position of quick kill them before anyone notices is wrong and ultimately evil.

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  • the58thstate
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:05pm

    shut up ron! you must have no clue whats going on in the heartland.

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    • CatB
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:13pm

      That’s why the MSM is concentrating on it .. it isn’t Santorum it is the MSM who is trying to get Obama re-elected!

      Why doesn’t Paul go after them?

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  • circleDwagons
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:05pm

    the best way to get Paul to end his campaign is to Elect him President.

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    • BikerMickAG
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:27pm

      Ron Paul is not going to end his campaign because he’s rolling the dice believing that Romney will get the nomination, he’ll be able to say that he dogged Gingrich & Santorum for Romney & that will put him in position to effectively demand a plum position in the Romney administration. Even in a brokered convention, Ron Paul would/will not be the nominee. In Ron Paul‘s opinion Santorum can’t beat Obamao? Ron Paul strays off the reservation every time he responds to a question from anyone. Ron Paul would definitely beyond a shadow of a doubt not be able to beat Obamao.

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  • Br@dley
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:02pm

    he’s 100% correct.
    the fascists in our 2-party system use diametrically opposite rhetoric on a few (minor in comparison to our real problems) issues to divert attention away from the fact that they are really cogs in the big-government machine. this is why despite which party is in power:
    foreign policy never changes
    the federal government continues to expand
    our debt keeps getting bigger
    the proletariat keeps getting poorer
    asinine monetary policy remain unchanged
    power remains in the hands of a very small group of elitist a-holes.

    that is what occupy wall street is really about. it’s not some socialist conspiracy as beck woould have you believe. he is part of the propaganda machine btw.

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    • BikerMickAG
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:44pm

      Ron Paul has never been 100% correct about anything in this campaign. He’s shilling for Romney & that alone is disingenuous at best. Anybody who thinks that our positions as a country with respect to U.S. foreign policy are no different than they were with Bush or any other Republican president, isn’t thinking & isn’t paying attention. At the very least there is the contrast between the overall appeasement of the Obamao administrations foreign policy versus say the leading through demonstrating strength & decisive action of the Reagan administration. Reagan made a few mistakes, but Obamao’s whole foreign policy is a mistake.

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:00pm

      @Br@dley

      “That is what Occupy Wall Street is really about. It’s not some socialist conspiracy as Beck would have you believe. He is part of the propaganda machine btw.”

      FINALLY, someone speaks the TRUTH about Occupy Wall Street! Thank you, Br@dley!
      The Occupy movement, which is NON-VIOLENT, consists of people of ALL ages that are willing to challenge the two-party status quo that keeps dishing out more government-sponsored corruption and eroding more of freedoms, just like that of the Tea Party movement five years earlier when it was started under Ron Paul in 2007. Therefore, anyone that keeps believing and/or spreading Glenn Beck’s FALSE claim that the Occupy Wall Street movement is “a purely socialist group” is either DELIBERATELY LYING or is hopelessly STUPID (in other words, WILLFULLY IGNORANT).

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  • katie5
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 9:56pm

    I pick Rick.

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on February 19, 2012 at 9:55pm

    If you believe that life begins at conception, then believing women have a right to their baby’s life is as insane (and evil) as believing that a murderer has a right to wield his knife to cut out fetuses, and should not be prosecuted, because he killed no one.

    Abortion is murder, plain and simple. the fact that America condones millions of murders every year makes Americans, on balance, no better than Hitler.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:18pm

      You went to Hitler first

      Congrats, you lose.

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    • inblack
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:23pm

      I think your analogy is off.

      Anti-life groups and political leaders like Obama are Hitler and the Nazi party.

      People who have or perform abortions are the Nazi death camp guards.

      We the American people are the German people who stood by and watched as millions are exterminated.

      Shame on us.

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    • BikerMickAG
      Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:37pm

      Sorry, that’s statist rhetoric, YOU LOSE YOU LOSER! You gotta do better than cultural Marxist political correctness; that makes you no better than the Obamao-zombies! One who does not learn & remember the mistakes that were made throughout history is doomed to repeat them. There was much about the National Socialist Party of Nazi Germany that people should have learned, but evidently didn’t. The evolution of the Weimar Republic, the way that the Jews were abused, had their property stolen by the government (eminent domain anyone!), were rampantly scapegoated to death (literally); being blamed for everything negative that was happening at the time.

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