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Pawlenty Courts Tea Partiers; Call Him ‘Tea-Paw?’

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Republican Tim Pawlenty, “T-Paw” to his supporters, has increasingly tied himself to the new crop of grass-roots activists in the 2012 presidential campaign.

So maybe it’s time to call the former Minnesota governor “Tea-Paw.”

He says his aggressive outreach to tea party audiences is one important part of a strategy to assemble the diverse network of backers he needs to go national and win the GOP nomination. He’s not focusing solely on this emerging force in party politics, he says, perhaps mindful not to alienate other Republican groups.

“I’m not trying to introduce myself to the tea party. I’m trying to introduce myself to the whole party … because I’m not known outside of Minnesota,” Pawlenty told The Associated Press in a telephone interview ahead of a Saturday appearance at a tea party rally at the Iowa Statehouse. He spoke at a similar rally in Boston on Friday and to the movement’s national summit in Phoenix in February.

A little-known Midwesterner trying to break out of a crowded GOP field, Pawlenty has said he needs to “win or do very well” in Iowa’s lead-off caucuses by attracting social conservatives and pro-business conservatives as well as newly motivated tea party followers. They make up a chunk of the state’s electorate: A Des Moines Register’s Iowa Poll showed last fall that 39 percent of Iowa voters said they supported the movement.

But Pawlenty faces stiff competition for the allegiance of Iowa’s tea partyers from Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and others.

“There may be some folks who are running as candidates who are more deeply engrained, or were engrained earlier, in the tea party movement,” Pawlenty said in the interview. “As tea party members think about who they want not only to represent the conservative coalition but to win the election, I think we’re going to be the candidate the presents the total package.”

It’s a message he delivers in private meetings with small groups of influential tea party supporters, as he did in Altoona two weeks ago.

While Pawlenty has made overtures to tea party supporters, his campaign strategists and Iowa advisers are establishment Republican operatives. Conversely, Bachmann has lined up commitments from some of the Iowa’s most influential tea party leaders. If she does enter the race, she’s expected to pick state Sen. Kent Sorenson, a rising star among the tea party activists, as her chief adviser in the state.

Pawlenty might seem an odd fit as the choice of a movement that sprung up a decade after he rose to GOP leadership in Democratic-leaning Minnesota. He was not invited to his home state’s first tea party rally at the state Capitol in St. Paul two years ago, and was a warm-up act last year behind Bachmann and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, also a tea party favorite.

But some Iowa tea partyers say Pawlenty’s fiscal record in Minnesota earns him credibility. He was governor during a time of recurring deficits and battles with Democrats over his refusal to consider tax increases. Pawlenty had some success in stemming the growth of programs, but he also he resorted to temporary fixes and enacted new fees that some anti-tax activists considered tax increases.

“I think that the tea party is all about spending,” said Brett Rogers, a West Des Moines Republican and co-founder of the Iowa tea party who is undecided about which contender to support heading into 2012. “And Gov. Pawlenty has a great message on that.”

Others see Pawlenty as a latecomer and are leaning toward White House prospects with longer ties to the movement but narrower overall appeal, such as Bachmann.

“I don’t see him as tea party. I didn’t feel like he stood for what I stood for,” said Jim Carley of Altoona.

Carley said he was dissatisfied with Pawlenty‘s answer during a recent meeting with tea party leaders to a question about how to repeal President Barack Obama’s health care law. According to Carley, Pawlenty said Obama and Congress could refuse to pay for it. Carley wanted more.

“I’m not talking about defunding it. I’m talking about getting rid of it,” Carley said.

He‘s says he’s not inclined to support Pawlenty.

Carley likes Bachmann, who has introduced a bill to repeal the health law, and former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain, also set to speak Saturday in Des Moines.

Comments (82)

  • smitrix
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 2:37pm

    ok guys…..the “tea party is all about spending” wasnt a tim pawlenty qoute….i like him a lot…good background…good message…..i hope he does well

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  • Saxindacity
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 2:09pm

    I’m from Minnesota and fortunate enough to have Bachmann as my congress woman. I just love her and would vote for her in a heartbeat if she’s the candidate for president. However, I like Pawlenty as well. He was able to hold his own in this state full of ultra liberals…and yet we obviously have a pretty good share of conservatives here as well. All I know is that the liberals here hate Pawlenty almost as much as they do Bachmann. I’ll take that as an endorsement for either of them, but I think Pawlenty actually would have a better chance of defeating that socialist menace currently occupying the oval office, when he’s not vacationing, golfing, partying or campaigning… while the country is on the road to ruin.

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    • Airgun
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 1:45am

      I’m in Monti Sax, so I‘m as thrilled as you are to be in Bachmann’s district, but Gov. Timmy can just keep on holding his own, and keep his hands off of the rest of us as far as I’m concerned.

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  • Fight for America
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:44pm

    Mr. Pawlenty – you running for president is not what the country needs right now no matter how nice you are.

    The public is sick of politicians (religious or not, Southern or not). We don’t need a Daddy, we need a businessman who has been there and done that not someone who is clueless this time around . There is no time for learning. We need someone who can hit the ground running. Please wait until another time.

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  • Entropy
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:42pm

    I am not going to vote for any half-baked, RINO career politician. We need a true outsider.

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:29pm

    Pawlenty is desperate and foolish to think he has even a ghost of a chance to get nominated. Nor will he be picked by anyone as VP.

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  • dizzyinthedark
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:18pm

    “Courting” the Tea Party!!!! Here’s the problem. We see through people who sugar-coat words, promise one thing and do another, we understand that sort of lingo. We are hypersensitive to candidates who want to ‘court’ us. There’s no courting! If you’re good, you are good–end of story! Much like Colnel Alan West. He did not ‘court’ his constituents, he spoke honestly, from the heart and we, the Tea Party knew this. We do not need to be ‘manipulated’, we know when this is happening and run in the other direction from now on.

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  • KL
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:13pm

    Pawlenty is not a good candidate for the Republicans. He is for cap and trade and he helped Muslims get special loans so they can become home owners. If the tea party supports him, then im not sure what the tea party actually stands for. (With Tim Pawlenty struggling to shore up his support with the GOP’s fringe-iest elements over “lapses” like supporting cap and trade and implicitly recognizing climate change, news that he supported Sharia law probably isn’t going to play too well.) Look it up.

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  • John 3:16
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:51pm

    I trust GOD first and then I trust my fellow patriots in the Tea Party next to decide who should run. The Republicans of old suck almost as bad as the Democrats. I say to the old Republican guard. Get in the back seat with your slurrpy and watch how a Republic should function.

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  • merrygale
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:38pm

    The nickname here in MN was T’Paw. Please, this is not who the Tea Party wants to represent their choices.

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  • emertz8413
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:30pm

    Isn’t he the guy that said Sarah Palin was irrelevent, or something to that effect? We need someone with some FIRE in him/her, don’t see that from this Bozzo.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:52am

    I don’t trust anyone from Minnesota. It’s a rotten, corrupt, evil, liberal state. It shows no signs of changing. Minnesotans bring nothing to the table. It’s an ugly state too, and it’s people smell funny, and their football team sucks.

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    • tankerBigRed1
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:07pm

      & their license plate isn’t correct– says land of 10,000 lakes— should read land of 10,000 taxes & a couple lakes..

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:46pm

      Tanker..great point..besides Wisconsin is right next door with 15,000 lakes, so 10,000…big deal

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    • sbenard
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:26pm

      Wow! Don’t hold back!

      …and I thought only the French smelled bad!

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    • RightPolitically
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:42pm

      YOU bad!

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    • Saxindacity
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 2:22pm

      Ever hear of that book “How To Win Friends an Influence People” ? Didn’t think so…. Haaa!

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    • MaggieRose
      Posted on April 17, 2011 at 9:04am

      Hey now, Ted… my Mom was from Minnesota and she rocked ;-)

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    • Airgun
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 2:03am

      Minnesota was a solid conservative state until the early 1970s when the legislature went left due to the vast influx of disgruntled hippies who hated the tax burden in their home state.The progressive movement started in Wisc. around the turn of the last century and spawned Nazism, Communism and fascism. By the way, under federal guidelines concerning what constitutes a “lake”, we got about 40,000.
      I agree about the Vikings though.
      You go ahead and think what you want about Minnesotans; the vast majority of us who live outside the major city centers are good God fearing folk whose kid’s minds are being subverted by the left by any means possible, but my neighbors and I are pushing back.
      The buttheads who voted in Dayton because his name was familiar and forgot that we kicked his sorry ass out of the senate only a few years ago didn’t prevent us from evicting a lot of the progressives from our legislature in the last election, and we’ll finish the job this time around.

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  • Its Gonna Getcha
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:37am

    The individuals who relate to some (or all) the issues the Tea Party deals with head-on, was more acutely defined by the left trying to count them out than any “organized Tea Party mission” put forth. The conversation about the Tea Party, even from conservative viewpoints, has been atrocious. Makes me want to beam down Reagan, A.K.A. The Great Communicator.

    The Tea Party has grown NOT because there’s a number of people who agree with them 100%. Rather, it’s an alternative momentum for people who felt the Republicans were moving too slow. That’s all. It’s the fast lane on the Turnpike, although each person has a completely different destination.

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  • KnotyGuy
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:29am

    Shadowrider is right. Just another moderate (read Progressive) Republican. He was afraid of being caught raising taxes, so he called the increases “Fees”. He is against oil exploration in ANWR, He took billions in stimulus bucks and then brags he left the state with a surplus!!! He saddled us with a perpetual money losing light rail. To be kind, he was maybe a marginally better Governor the Ventura, but that isn’t saying a whole lot. If you want boring as white bread however, he may be your guy.

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  • tankerBigRed1
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:27am

    Very easy to sum up poleenty=RINO..

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  • eat-more-bacon-USA
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:18am

    Where was T-Paw during the 2010 election cycle when Sarah Palin was doing the heavy lifting for Republicans and the Tea Party? The Tea Party has little affection for or trust in Mr. Pawlenty.

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  • spreadcommonsensenot pc
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:11am

    You know what “TP” is used for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    He is NO tea partier,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,progressive, RINO, republicrap
    go back to selling cars TP

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  • joan k
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:09am

    I hear that Pawlenty is another RINO but I need to study him more before I discount him. He may not be the firebrand we need to go up against Obama. I am waiting to see who else is coming to the table. Right now I like Allen West, Michele Bachmann, Hermain Cain, and, of course, Sarah Palin (if she runs)

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    • sbenard
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:23pm

      Great list! I would add just a couple more:
      Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, but I don’t expect either of them to run! But some on your list also don’t appear to be interested, at least for now. Perhaps as Veeps!

      Personally, I’m leaning toward Bachmann or Cain!

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  • spreadcommonsensenot pc
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:07am

    T-paw—You are a progressive infiltrate——–

    another trojan horse RINO——GO AWAY

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  • Marylou7
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:06am

    Well I’m a tea partier and I say NO. He probably is a very nice guy and that’s just it, we need a brilliant tiger. Anybody know one?? Allen West comes to mind. No to “NO 2nd Amendment Christie.”

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    • PrfctlyFrank
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:18pm

      MIKE PENCE… The guy is Constitutional genius, a solid( backed by an exemplary record in the House) conservative having faith in God and Family, a Fiscal Constitutionalist, and brilliant mind..He’s unfortunately decided not to run for Pres. but for Gov. of Indiana.. We need to recruit him!! He is the man!!

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  • shadowrider
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:04am

    I see Pawlenty as a typical politician and a Republican Moderate more than a Tea Party candidate.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:56am

    All I know is that it is way too early in the running for me to pick one, I am going to listen very carefully to what they have to say, but more closely to what they do. It takes a lot of time to go through all the information on what they stand for but I will be looking at Pawlenty closely. We all have seen what the Democrats are for and we know we don’t want anymore of that.

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  • tifosa
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:32am

    Awww, sweet! Tea-Paw comes a‘courtin’

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  • BarCalliyon
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:25am

    As an Iowan, all I have to say to Mr. Pawlenty is CAP AND TRADE.

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    • derekcrane
      Posted on April 17, 2011 at 9:24am

      You are correct. Pawlenty calls it his “big mistake,” but would a real conservative ever consider approving any kind of tax to curb global warming? We all realize that it is a hoax to grow government and make Al Gore and his buddies rich from selling the carbon credits mandated by this type legislation. Approving “Cap & Trade” legislation is an automatic disqualifier from consideration for the Republican nomination for presidency.

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    • Airgun
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 1:40am

      Not to mention his addiction to anything “green” that isn’t money in the pockets of his citizens; windmills, ethanol, pigtail mercury light bulbs, ad nauseum.

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  • Creestof
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:21am

    Thoughts on this guy? I know very little about him.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:32am

      That is because He was no where to be found.

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    • tifosa
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:46am

      Let’s just say, if he’s a Ben&Jerry’s flavor, he’d be “Very Vanilla”

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    • 338lapua
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:51am

      He is a “nice guy” with “good ideas”. But he is just boring, and nice…..too nice. We need a firebrand to shake things up, not vanilla pudding to “reach across the aisle”.

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    • BocaBaby
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:56am

      yawn :o

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:34pm

      Come on people, if there was ever a time that the American people were ready for boring yet effective, it’s now. Look what Mr. Excitment Obama has done for us. Vanilla and competent is good!

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    • RightPolitically
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:51pm

      338Lapua is right. Nice guy, ZERO SPARK…….Give me TRUMP or WEST or BACHMANN!

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    • MustComment
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 3:55pm

      I don’t know much about him either, but the fact that he’s reaching out to the Tea Party (Tea Paw??) Hmm. It reminds me of Scott Brown. Good old Scott (the pick-up truck dude) turned out to be a Dem in disguise.

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 5:26pm

      CREESTOF,
      I do not either.
      Frankly…., I want a President who picks a good cabinet!
      I want Rudy Guilliani to head the D.O.J.. I want Ambassodor John Bolten in there somewhere.I just don’t know what position. I want Liz Trotta as Press Secretary. There are so many good people.
      I want a President of the United States of FREAKING America to have the wisdom to pick them.
      I do know it isn’t Romney. It’s not Huckabee. It’s not ANYONE of the “Let’s just get along ilk”.
      I do not know who that still leaves in the running. I’ll tell you this…, I want someone who says the “F” word! I want someone who smokes cigars and drinks scotch! I am weary of wine wimps!
      I want someone with CAJONES! BIG ONES! BIG,BIG,BIG ones.
      That is the only candidate that is going to save this nation’s derriere!

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    • MaggieRose
      Posted on April 17, 2011 at 9:01am

      @Lucy Larue… Agreed! Great post… How about: LT COL Allen West President, John Bolten Secretary of State, Donald Trump Commerce/Trade Secretary, Sarah Palin Energy Secretary… dream team!

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    • Airgun
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 1:37am

      As a MN resident who made the mistake of voting him in the first time, he’s a progressive in the Bill Clinton mold. He supported a state-wide smoking ban, increased cigarette taxes under the cover of the (depends what your definition of the word “is” is) moniker “health impact fee”, and has been trying for almost the entirety of his two terms to get us to buy a new stadium for the Vikings at taxpayer expense while giving the team all of the revenues. He took office when we had a 2 billion dollar budget surplus, and by the end of his first term the spending had exploded into a 6 billion dollar deficit; that’s right- spending increased by 8 billion bucks in a single term and plunged our state into financial sepukku.(Suicide)
      He vetoed only one budget, and that was to get re-elected.
      He is an absolute fraud as any kind of fiscal hawk, and if Americans drink this koolade they deserve the depression that follows.
      Just sayin’…

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  • Stoic one
    Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:20am

    “I think that the tea party is all about spending,”

    Obviously this person HAS NOT been to a tea party site.

    what have your actions been to this point?

    I would be willing to bet that a person that ran on a STRAIGHT TEA PARTY philosophy would have a landslide victory.

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    • Creestof
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:23am

      There is nothing wrong with spending…as long as you are talking about spending it in the right areas…and cutting elsewhere to get the funds to do the spending to begin with.

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:37am

      I like Pawlenty, he seems like a strong conservative. It will be interesting to see how the field shapes up over the next few months. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIMRNUGXxII

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:39am

      CREESTOF
      So what do you call fiscal responsibility?
      Following the dictates of the constitution?
      Free markets?

      The Fed is not doing the things that it is supposed to be doing. It is engaged in a power and control grab of it’s citizens. It has forgotten the place of gov’t is to serves; not control. I have become SO FRUSTRATED that I have to take a deep breath to not be an anarchist.

      I am waiting for the gov’t to come and check my methane exudations.

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:32am

      “The Tea Party is all about spending.” Only if you are a liberal tea partier, then yes, you are correct. Otherwise, a fiscal conserative. Spend were needed NOT on communist/socialist ideas.

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:43am

      pawlenty is a RINO.If you like mccain,collins , or snow than vote for this rino.He sold out conservative Minnesotans all the time-SING SONG RINO_Dont trust this Person!

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    • dawg of gawd
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:15pm

      Tea-Paw! Reminds me of when Romney chanted “who let the dogs out” . . . Even more pathetic than Beck saying he’s going after the young people. Especially when he so roundly dissed “youth” the Middle East. The average age of a Beck watcher/listener is somewhere just north of 81. That’s why the only advertiser he has left is the Shirley Temple Movie Memory Pak.

      Oh, the Tea Party – shown so bright, fizzled so fast. We hardly knew ya.

      dawg of gawd  
    • Creestof
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:17pm

      @Stoic one
      Please do not use my remark to come into this thread in order to use some prepared comment of yours.

      My comment was quite clear. If you want to spend more on our military (which we should) then great! But, before you can, you have to cut the same or (preferably) twice as much from other areas. But just spending is wrong.

      I have no problem if they cut social security. I have no problem if they cut medicaid and medicare.

      I’m 51, have never made more than $60K a year (usually much less) yet have lived within my means most of my life socking away money in my profit sharing and 401K’s…and have a little less than $500,000.00 right now. I owe $5k on credit cards and have a $860 a month mortgage with 20 years left on it. I’m also not one of these geriatric hypochondriacs with nothing left in their lives than to run to the ER or their doctors office about every little thing, tie up doctors and nurses, get their prescriptions and head for the nearest drug store…all because it’s FREE…and they have nothing left in their lives…so why not.

      Sorry, but you don’t get to spend everything you made throughout your life and then expect the government to support you the rest of your life…especially when what you yourself contributed will barely cover 2 years of it.

      Want an actual “Jesus hopped on a rocket” miracle? Start telling all these people who enter a ER “Unless this is an actual emergency, your minimum bill (which you will have to pay before we treat you) will be $500.00…and the prescriptions we write you for your non-emergency related problem will be marked as “not to be covered by this hypochondriacs insurance.” Do that and watch how everyone all of a sudden gets healthy and quits sucking Medicare & Medicaid dry.

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    • theonefromabove
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:32pm

      Let’s just call Tea-Partiers People that want just the constitution.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:45pm

      Just get rid of BO Now, Anybody but BO…NO BO!!! We need NO BO NOW..

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    • PrfctlyFrank
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:11pm

      Please DAWG, whatever you do go to bed tonight secure in the knowledge that the TEA party is dead and needs no more attention from the likes of you.. Sweet dreams of the obamanation taking care of your every need and all the TEA Party people don’t matter any more.. Thats right, go to sleep, go to sleep, go to sleep….

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    • sbenard
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:17pm

      He should have said that the Tea Party is all about CUTTING spending!

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:42pm

      Ive found that i don’t have much to say about who the candidate is, it’s only in the main event that i get asked my choice!!

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:47pm

      @Stoic one,
      I agree and feel the same way you do.

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    • RJO
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:53pm

      @

      dawg of gawd
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:15pm

      Tea-Paw! Reminds me of when Romney chanted “who let the dogs out” . . . Even more pathetic than Beck saying he’s going after the young people. Especially when he so roundly dissed “youth” the Middle East. The average age of a Beck watcher/listener is somewhere just north of 81. That’s why the only advertiser he has left is the Shirley Temple Movie Memory Pak.

      Oh, the Tea Party – shown so bright, fizzled so fast. We hardly knew ya.

      ******DOG FACE – You’re about as funny – or witty – as a bad case of gonorrhea. Come to think of it, most of what you have to say on…………..anything (considering your Liberal/Progressive/Marxist disability) has similar importance for non-consideration*******

      Idiot.

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    • No To The Tea Party
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Can we call him T- Idiot ????

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 2:32pm

      CREESTOF
      sorry you think i have prepared remarks.

      I have actually been wiped out financially this year…I lay this at the door of obamacare. I am 54, wife 60. She expects to receive SSI, but has her doubts. I do not think it will be there for me, let alone you. We are free of debt, except for our mortgage. Why O’care? The corp. that owned the company I had worked for sold off all it’s non-union holdings nationwide; the unions are exempt from O’care.

      I agree about the elderly (and others) running to the ER. In ‘93 when I started at this company health Insurance was no charge to the employees. Then came an announcement they could no longer supply “free” insurance because too many people were going to the ER instead of the family doctor. This is not one sector of our population. It is rampant throughout our country, in every aspect of our lives. “Oh i will call a professional.” Pick up a book.

      I was talking with this fellow at work a few years ago; about the announcement i mentioned above. He EXPLODED verbally on me exclaiming “what are you supposed to do at 3am and you do not know what is wrong with your child?”
      I responded with “did you ever think to buy a book on child care when you had the child?”
      his response was “that is what I pay the doctor for!”

      I agree cut what is not needed, and spend on what is needed. A GREAT GUIDELINE FOR THIS IS:

      the constitution.

      my arthritic thumbs are tired…

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    • RJO
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 4:35pm

      @ No To The Tea Party
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Can we call him T- Idiot ????

      *****Duh….twits like you give idiots a bad name********

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 6:30pm

      @DAWGOFNOGAWD,
      Too hilarious! Non?! I am tres certainmont that you are so happy with your little self when you referenced
      81 year old Tea Party members and the Shirley Temple memory pak.
      You must have paced Maman’s basement for HOURS to come up with that post.
      DAWGOFNOGAWD…,you are insignificant. You WANT to be significant.
      You are a nincompoop! Yet….,you are apparently proud to post your lack of brains almost EVERY day on this site.
      If you are a paid troll….,you are not worth what they’re paying you. Sad…,you cannot even succeed as a TROLL.

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    • dawg of gawd
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 6:33pm

      lucy, Luuuuuuucy . . . you’ve been skipping your “English as a Second Language” classes, haven’t you. you little scamp, you.

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