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Paying for Gas With Cash? You May Need to Swipe Your Drivers License

Technology to Swipe Drivers Licenses at the Gas Pump Cutting Down on Pump and RunsTo help cut down on “pump and runs” — when drivers peel off from a gas station without paying —  you may start needing to swipe your drivers license. One gas station in Michigan is already testing out the technology.

The local ABC affiliate in Saginaw, Mich., reports that the owner of a Marathon gas station who had Post-Pay installed — technology that stores information from drivers licenses — has only had one pump and run in the last two months. This is down from three or four each week.

Watch the local news report for more:

ABC reports Bob Hohn, president of Paxson Oil Company and inventor of Post-Pay, as saying information from drivers licenses are maintained temporarily on a device in the store but not kept for the long-term. He said the cashier doesn’t see the information, unless you drive away without paying.

Technology to Swipe Drivers Licenses at the Gas Pump Cutting Down on Pump and Runs

For the one pump and run that has occurred since the technology was installed, police showed up at the person’s home, proving the system works.

[H/T Gizmodo]

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:25am

    Will minorities be required to do this? We don’t want to hurt anyones feelings in our tolerant, diverse country.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:32am

      Of course not…everyone will have a tattoo on their forhead reading 666. Enjoy!

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:34am

      I‘m sure those bound and determined to steal gas wouldn’t think to use a stolen driver’s license. Just one more pain in the a$$ for honest people to deal with.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:39am

      i am not sure why you would need this. i pay for my gas in advance and the pump is shut off automatically when the paid for amount is reached. you won’t get my drivers licence if i pay in advance.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:39am

      .
      I will not be scanning my D/L in any device.
      Don’t we have enough stolen identities already?
      Maybe I can type in my SS# too.

      Yeah, I‘m supposed to believe it’s safe, just like the internet is secure.

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:44am

      Can anyone say “Police State?” This is just the beginning. Before long they will have this everywhere for people who pay cash so they can monitor who buys what. They already have people who pay with cash listed as possible ‘terrorists.’ Come on people WAKE UP!!!!!

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:45am

      Oh yeah, I forgot something. Temporarily stored in the store? Is that the same kind of ‘temporary’ as the TSA scans that ARE being stored by the government?

      Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, fool me a 1000 times, I must be brain dead!

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:05am

      Yeah, just like obamacare I will not be participating in this crap.

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:15am

      Wouldn’t that be unfair to the illegal voters without ID?

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:16am

      Under Obama’s watch – NOPE.

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    • caveman74
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:54am

      this is silly. Why would you let self serve customers pump then pay? I will tell you why so you can take drivers license info and track how much people are using. In washington state the pump wont turn on until you swipe your credit card or pay cash. I will bet if I ask the arco owner where I fuel up he will tell me he gets 0 pump and runs per week. There problem solved and with no database on how much fuel I consume to boot

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    • Havok
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:04am

      If you are gonna steal gas, just steal a license too…simple enough.

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    • closetotheedge
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:20am

      Total control. But in a way that 1 generation can change how we are indoctrinated to the New Order of cashless society. They make it that doing business with cash must be eliminated to stop any criminal activity, cuz all paper money that they could wash is followed step by srep to who got what for what.The Bio-ID cards are being used in Mex that contained all their info both monetary and Midical info. They are using these on infants to 20yr now, and will keep right on into the rest of them. This is hailed by J.Nalalitano,( don’t you feel safer ) FEMA qween and lapdog, and are using them right now in the USA. No-knock warrents/ No phone unheard/Plug for insurance co’ to moniter all we do. .Detention NDAA Giulty with indefinate imprisonment for any new charges they make. But they don’t need a reason, simply a word spoken and the 1st Amendment is gone, along with the rest cuz if you have no rights our country is gone. But the ID’s,thumb prints’ for school lunches RFID chips with-in without and round about, All they /the powers that be/ need is a type of problem to locke down,also as seen with the 9,000 ‘security check-points (TSA & FEMA n Co’) nation wide ,test runs and how we reply to them.Allways treat our police, Sheriffs’ Depts State Highway with respect they deserve. The technololgy the Feds choose is total contol of us.Who What Where Why How and what they think you’re thinking. See ya at the narrow gate. Shalom

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    • thekuligs
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:28am

      I don’t know why you guys are all bent out of shape about this. 1. You don’t HAVE to do business with this company–don’t like it, don’t give them your money and eventually they will cave or they will suffer. 2. You can pay inside in advance and avoid this or with your debit/credit card at the pump.

      I almost always have 4 small kids with me when I need to get gas so going inside to pay is something that does not happen. So I typically buy giftcards from Sam’s Club when I shop and then use them at the pump. Problem solved, they don‘t take cash there and I don’t even have to swipe my credit/debit card if you are worried about that info being stollen.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:46am

      I thought ID requirements were racst……according to the DOJ. OH WAIT THE ONLY APPLYS TO VOTING. Not cashing check,buy cigarettes,buy alcohol, driving,and buy material that adult only ID and now appearantly buying gas.

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    • Rings Around Uranus
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 12:42pm

      Oh I get it…we won’t be able to buy gas with cash without ID but they want us to be able to vote without ID.

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    • desertspeaks
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 1:18pm

      holy crap this is racist, eric holder will swoop down on this gas station for disenfranchising minorities who don’t have identification. This akin to asking for ID when voting and we all know how the Obama admin feels about that!

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 1:38pm

      Hey Baddoggy the UPC code[s] already embody the 666 numbering system, Have done so, since the late 60s[See Mary Stuart Relfe book] ALL computers still run on Zeros and Ones and ALL scanning systems employ the 666 system. Bank Credit/Debit cards CHIPS use the 666 system. Right hand or forehead only need the Verichip, or some other[new flexible surface tech now availabke too] tech. Of course MANY have said this is just a coincidence. SOME coincidence, that was prophecied 1900 years ago, And he causeth ALL, both great and small,rich and poor to receive the Mark, or the number of his name, or they cannot buy or sell, except they have his mark ,or the NUMBER of his name. Let HE WHO HAS WISDOM, count the number of his name,and his number is 666.
      By Golly, I think I will believe the one who said this-John at Patmos circa 90 A,D.

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    • Teaparty-grammy
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 1:59pm

      This is just another case of violating the rights of everybody for the sins of a few–like making allergy sufferers show ID and sign a govt. form, and making it damned near impossible to get legal over-the-counter allergy drugs that actually WORK, because “somebody might use it to make meth”.

      I think the entire “war on drugs” is ridiculous, anyhow. Did they not learn anything from Prohibition? All they have done is create a HUGE illegal drug market that is siphoning BILLIONS out of the “real” economy. Maybe if some of that underground drug money was put back into the “real” economy, it would not suck so much. There are a certain amount of people who are going to use drugs, no matter what the law says. Trying to stop them is like trying to extinguish a forest fire with an eyedropper full of water.

      Moreover, the “war on drugs” consumes such a HUGE amount of law enforcement resources that other criminals are just running rampant because law officers are spread so thin trying to interdict illegal drugs.

      Also, for those who WANT to get off drugs, money from legal drug sales could be used to provide treatment. And manufacturing, distributing, etc. of LEGAL drugs would prevent many overdose deaths and could create THOUSANDS of jobs. I do NOT believe that millions will run out and start using drugs just because they are made legal, which is the stupid reason given for continuing this idiotic “war”.

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    • Larry E
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 2:41pm

      Minorities and college students will be exempted from this. Ask Eric Holder, he knows ALL about the law and discrimination.

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    • Mountain Mama Martha
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 3:06pm

      They don’t want to show a photo ID to vote…this is NOT going to go over good with them.

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    • droopy
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 3:08pm

      Don’t worry, Mr. Holder will sue. This must violate the civil rights of minorities. “See voter ID.”

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    • watash
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 4:15pm

      This is how you see who is spending the cash.
      So when the mark is refused they’ll know who to prevent from buying gas.

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    • lambsev
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 5:38pm

      Noting the mention of the mark 666 in another reply, I think ultimately it will be governments desire to thwart thefts, criminal profits and tax evasion that bring about the cashless society in which everyone will have to have a numbered account to buy or sell.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:30pm

      minorities??? no,,,they are ‘required’ to have ID’s,,,,,,remember???

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    • richard the lion-hearted
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:46pm

      Not is it only the beginnings of a police state, this practice spreading will ensure that if you don‘t take their ’universal’ credit card in the near future (soon as the global market collapes) and choose to ‘remain off the grid’ by paying in cash/ trade…they will intimidate you by trying to get information about you that is otherwise unconstitutional and target specific, through this very type of thinking and practice it will grow (if left unchecked without public rage and outcry).

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    • lassew
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:00pm

      This is too ridiculous, but living close to Saginaw…or Scaginaw as we call it, I’m not surprised. I take it the owners haven’t heard of prepay?

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    • Theleftisda
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:27pm

      TheWholeTruth
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:45am
      Oh yeah, I forgot something. Temporarily stored in the store? Is that the same kind of ‘temporary’ as the TSA scans that ARE being stored by the government?

      Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, fool me a 1000 times, I must be brain dead!
      —————————————————————————————————————————————
      No that would make you a democrat

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    • ShirleyMG
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:35pm

      I would never swipe my DL. And they should just make all pumps either Credit Card, Debit Card, or Pay Inside Before You Pump. What’s your definition of minority? I was somewhat offended by that statement. Working with the Department of Corrections I can tell you that no group is missing.

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    • 2theADDLED
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:56am

      What about those that come in on the tractor, lawnmower or ATV and don’t have a license ?

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:21am

      Sad, but true. It never seems to apply to them.

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    • RonShip
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:33am

      Don’t forget we have to exempt illegal aliens from this policy…

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:16am

    for AMERICANS we need a drivers license to buy gas, get medical care, open credit accounts, to rent a car… but it is not required to vote === more fuhrer-obamaism.

    the fuhrer wannabe obama must be removed as soon as possible.

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    • GUNNSUP
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:54am

      Today here in Fl the Homeland Security with body armor and automatic weapons set up a checkpoint outside the Social Security office in Leesburg Fl. Although they said it was a drill, they had people scared to death, asking for their ID’s as they approached the office. I am trying to figure out whether I’ll show my ID or NOT when this happens in my area. I will more than likely treat them with courtesy & NOT show them my ID. Looks like practice is in full swing after passing NDAA last week….Totally UN-Contsitutional

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    • kjunme
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 7:46am

      There is one person to stop this madness, RON PAUL, Vote him in or suffer the consequences.

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  • theabolitionist
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:15am

    Why is it ok to use ID to get gas, obtain insurance, get beer, but not to vote???

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:22am

      And why is the fed tracking bank accounts from the Swiss for all the people not paying taxes on their millions?

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:26am

      This is a way to keep track of people spending cash money. Obama and his minions want to keep track of how much people are spending. He must be running out of money to give to the free loaders and he needs more. This is why they are going to the Swiss banks to see who has money stuck away and who isn’t paying taxes.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:12am

      Apparently you didn’t read the article, or you just didn’t understand it. This was a private company who installed this machine, not the government. I know you like to say that everything is caused by Obama trying to keep an eye on you, even when you have no evidence, but this isn’t even remotely close to a government action.

      If you don’t want to swipe your ID at a gas station like this, then don’t go there.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:18am

      @Darla_K
      Yep. It’s another “conditioning” plan. Getting people used to verifying their ID at the gas station makes it easier for people to accept showing ID when paying cash at the grocery store etc etc

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    • rudderfish
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 12:45pm

      @Godfather
      I read the article and I understand. Credit card companies are private companies too. So is the phone company. So are airlines. Yet the government can track your credit card spending and can tap your phone. And even force you to show ID if you travel by air.
      Maybe you don’t understand the reach of the government. Or what shady people will do with that information.
      If I promise to only “temporarily” store your SSN, DOB, name, address, DL number, mother’s maiden name, credit card security code….will you give them to me? No? Why not? I run a private company and am not the government!

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    • Dumpster Baby
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 3:09pm

      @ DarlaK: No, they‘re going after Swiss banks to see who’s not paying taxes because, guess what, THEY’RE NOT PAYING TAXES. It’s the law, you dolt.

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    • Theleftisda
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:50pm

      Dumpster Baby
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 3:09pm
      @ DarlaK: No, they‘re going after Swiss banks to see who’s not paying taxes because, guess what, THEY’RE NOT PAYING TAXES. It’s the law, you dolt.
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      Are you sure?
      What about the people that put money in those banks have already paid taxes and don’t want the government stealing 45% when they die.

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  • Sniper48
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:14am

    All a criminal needs in someone else’s drivers license. This is a huge leap forward for ID theft. If Obama can protect ******* votes in order to get their votes multiple times, then using another person’s drivers license if too easy.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:12am

    thank God we are still in a pocket of actual patriotic anti-obama America where we have a few full service gas stations that are heavily patronized. at our favorite there are no ‘fees’ and cash is welcomed… and so is gold & silver, the American-citizen station-owner will buy it from you at a VERY respectable price. out here everyone knows their neighbors.. who and WHAT they are.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:23am

      Nice. I would love to live in a town where people exchange gold and silver.
      We have to abolish the Federal reserve and their FIAT note.
      Having to swipe your license is a move by the Global Elite (They run the Government) to phase us into a cashless society.
      They want to control everything.
      This is also a way to track your movements and purchases.
      I have the right to make PRIVATE transactions.
      People Stand UP !!!!!

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    • straytrooper
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:44am

      I‘m surprised the government hasn’t bar-coded paper money.

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    • TheLeftMadeMeRight
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:21am

      I‘m surprised the government hasn’t bar-coded…us. But I’m sure they have thought about it.

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  • Darla_K
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:09am

    Wait a minute, according to the loons this is racial profiling. No worries, if they can‘t afford ID they can’t possibly afford to buy gas either.

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    • randy
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:21am

      If I’m black or an illegal mexican, and I don’t have to show my drivers license to vote,
      I’m sure Eric Holder will make sure only white Americans have to swipe their licenses.

      And excuse me, but around here, if you pay with cash, you walk in and pay first, then
      and only then, will the pump be turned on for you. So why the need for this machine
      other than one more invasion of your personal information.

      information from drivers licenses are maintained temporarily on a device in the store but not kept for the long-term. Oh yeah? How long is short term? Just long enough to have them send the info to TSA so Obama can track your every move?

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  • MrsWunderbar
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:48am

    Well it sure would help here in Minnesota, No license , no gas ! and if a theif has no license, he can`t steal that car, could be a great thing, or could be another door to opening Identity theft, who knows.

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  • Blazen420
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:47am

    Why the need to buy all that junk when all gas stations around here are pay first then pump? Duh!

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:04am

      That’s what I was thinking. But hey, at least the inventor isn’t part of the smelly 99%…..

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    • danbou
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:14am

      Of course. People who steal gas, would never steal another persons ID.

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    • FingerBlisters
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 2:06pm

      I was thinking the same thing. I see lots of stations that say pay first or use a credit card. Way simpler.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:35am

    .
    The Eye is Everywhere……….

    What do ya’ll think about this new Consumer Dude with his hand in our Bank Accounts. Nieghbor is a Banker, he’s flopping like a fish outta water………

    The ole matress is looking like an option………..

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:09am

      I never leave a large balance in my account. Cash is easier and nontraceable. The three companies that you have to do a dance for to get a good fica score are wondering where I went.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:14am

      @JLGunner
      Exactly. We’ve been doing it for years. It‘s nobody else’s business how, where or on what we spend our money.

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  • jujubeebee
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:31am

    Eric Holder doesn’t think it necessary to have id to vote but we need id to buy gas? How many times do people steal gas and drive off? Are there not cameras, or can’t they take down the auto license number?

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:40am

      Its called pre-pay – works every time.

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    • toomuchgovt
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:45am

      ID to purchase alcohol, cigarettes, airline ticket, guns, obtain social security, welfare now gas. but anyone can vote to keep this insanity going.

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:18am

      Where’s the ACLU on this one?

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  • speedyjerry
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:28am

    Have you been charged insufficient funds recently by your bank and don’t know why? Obama made some deal with banks and fuel companys, each gas station has a maximum amout of fuel you can pump, $70 $100 $150 ect. When you stick your card in the gas pump, the gas pump automatically deducts this maximum amount from your account before you start pumping gas. If you pump $25 the gas pump will credit your account back the maximum then deduct the $25 when you are finished. MEANWHILE when this is happening if the bank recieves a check you wrote last week for something if this maximum amount taken from your account overdraws your balance, guess what?

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    • 4xeverything
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:36am

      Yep, a few years ago, I that happened and I had to spend hours on the phone making sure that I wasn’t charged close to $300 in bounced check and overdraft fees. It was horrific. I didn’t even know about it until I was in a department store later that day and my debit card was denied as I was buying Christmas gifts for my kids.

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:36am

      FOR YEARS!!! Wells Fargo is the undoubtedly the industry leader. Although I have heard recently that BOA is catching on quick.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:37am

      Never happened to me. My bank statement has never reflected that at all. Only shows a pre-authorization of $1 to verify the account.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:38am

      sorry, forgot to add..

      later in the day (or the next) the amount is deducted

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    • speedyjerry
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:03am

      It happened to me the first time a few months ago after Wells Fargo bought Wachovia. Took me all day to find out who credited my account $140.00. Finally I was shuffled to some IT that told me I wasn’t supposed to see that transaction online!

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    • caveman74
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:04am

      b of a does not play that game
      but if you over draw your account they charge you $35.00 and if you dont bring it back up to a 0 balance in 5 days they charge you $35.00 more for still being overdrawn. Think about that, they charge you an overdraft because they charged you an overdraft

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  • DMSNC
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:21am

    This is crap and intended to do what it sounds like – track ALL purchases, even CASH!

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:25am

      Especially cash!

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:29am

      If you notice, the second half of the sticker, which is mostly covered in the photo, gives you an “OR”. I suspect strongly that you can walk inside and pre-pay.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:30am

      yep

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    • AJAYW
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:47am

      @DMSNC
      You are spot on, its a step to control how much gas one can buy in a year and if you go over that amount you will be taxed at a rate they decide

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    • Welcome Black Carter
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:11am

      Looks to me like preperation for the day there will be no more cash. You will need only to provide your number…

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  • SkunkWorks
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:15am

    yup more tracking of your every move and purchase.
    out here in the southern People‘s Republyik of Kalyphornyia there has not been post pay since the 80’s

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  • stanzebell
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:12am

    Ah, the good ol’ days of relaxing in the car while the attendent pumped gas, cleaned windows, checked oil and tires and belts and hoses, then took the cost of gas and his tip and we were on our way. “Self-serve” works only in a social setting valuing such character flaws as respect, responsibility, merit, integrity…all those social pathologies being bred out of us by the masters of manipulation.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:20am

      And they gave bubblegum to the kids. I’d go with Dad to get gas every chance I got.

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    • 4xeverything
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:31am

      Until the late 90s, my grandma had a full service station on the corner near her house. A service she was happy to pay for. She knew the attendants by name and they always asked after her family. Now my 85 year old grandma has to stand in the cold and rain to pump gas. Those were the days for sure.

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  • alina.bolero
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:08am

    Wow! What a great idea. I hate using a credit/debit card to fill up … and I hate trying to guess how much cash I will need to pre-pay before filling up. Having to go back inside the store to wait in line again to get your change, because you paid for more gas than you had room for, is THE WORST.

    I would do this. They get way more useful ways to rob me blind with my credit card than with a DL.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:18am

      This is only for those paying with cash at stations that don’t require pre-pay before turning on the pump.
      You either go inside & pre-pay or you swipe your DL, pump gas & then go inside to pay cash. One way or another, you still have to go inside.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:29am

      Alina – I apologize. I mis-read your comment (too early, not enough coffee). I thought you were saying it would completely eliminate having to go in and pay. Yes this does eliminate having to guess how much gas you’ll need before pumping. You swipe the DL, pump gas and then go inside to pay.

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  • On The Bayou
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:04am

    This could be the begining of tracking how much fuel an individual is consuming and therefore tracking your carbon foot print for taxation purposes.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:16am

      EXACTLY…. tracking our movements one car at a time.

      The government does NOT NEED TO KNOW when I buy gas, where I buy gas or if I pass gas

      stations. Had you going there for a bit, didn’t I?

      Morning BLAZERS. “This is the day the LORD has made (just for us!); let us rejoice and BE GLAD in it.”

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  • On The Bayou
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:01am

    ID to purchase gas but not to vote???????????????

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:06am

      Exactly what I said.

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    • alina.bolero
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:10am

      It is just an option to allow you to pay with cash after filling up. Where did it say it was a requirement for using cash? I missed that.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:13am

      I can’t remember the last time a gas station let you pump gas before you paid. They don‘t even turn on the pumps until they’ve got the cash. If you use a credit card, it’s authorized and then the pump automatically turns on.

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  • bigdaddyt46
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:56am

    problem with this is hackers. they have devices they fit over atms to get your card info to make duplicates and empty your accounts. then also turn and sell these “fake” cards on the black market. it’d be only a matter of time before these figure out how to do this on this device and make DLs to sell on the black market.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:45am

      You are quite right about that.Thats why I always tell people don’t use an atm if you can possibly help it.Get extra cash from a store after/during purchase.Go to the bank but don’t use the atm.There isn’t anything to stop the hassle of the theft but there is some protection.Most banks do analysis and its usually fairly easy to detect this type of fraud.When its hard is if the perps are operating locally.It still isn’t rocket science, however, it does require you to have a ongoing relationship with your bank.
      They need some history to evaluate.
      For whats its worth the amount of a bank hold on purchases at a gas station/convience store is charged due to these fake cards being presented.The perps used convience stores for that purpuse.Busten the cards into merchandise and cash.Now you know the real reason why.By the way if you are pre authorized they normally don’t do that.You will be charged a nominal amount[usually between a dollar and twenty five dollars]..To be preauthorized depends on how your account is set up.
      This information is stored at the bank in a secure server in an unkown location.The thiefs won’t be able to change it.
      Piece of financial advice for all.If you use your bank card for most if not all purchases open two accounts.One for bill paying [where you may need overdraft protection]The other open as a flat account [no overdraft service].This account can only be used if there is enough money in the account to cover the purchase.Continued post*

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:54am

      Keep only enough extra money in the account to cover fees and what ever else you may need.Keep it under 20 25 dollars in extra.This helps tremendously in stopping this type of crime.Actually you can also use prepaid store cards.This stops it in its tracks.[WaWa in my area has just a card]
      If you are wondering how I know so much about this.Its simple I’ve worked in convience stores.I’ve also had it happen to me.Its why I know so much about protecting yourself from it.I only lost 25 dollars to it.It was worth it.The bank prosecuted the dog poop out of them.In my case it was the store itself that stole the money.Inside job.No I didn’t work for that store and never had.

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  • maxtread
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:55am

    How do you know the person who swiped the gas didn’t also swipe the drivers license?

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    • Hzurdaddy
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:05am

      Excellent point!! Also, whatever happened to prepay inside the station, at the counter?

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:52am

    And who’s the moron who swiped his license and then swiped the gas??? He needs to be eliminated from the gene pool immediately !!!!

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    • BlueStarMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:19am

      LOL! Excellent point! But what kind of system lets you pump the gas before you pay for it? Stupid is as Stupid does, I guess.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:31am

      Lots of places let you pump before you pay. At least around here. Guess the rest of you folks in the nation must be too dishonest to trust! :) (j/k)

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:43am

      We live in a rural area and there is only one station around here that still lets you pay afterwards. All the rest are pre-pay / card swipe only.

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:48am

      @Ghost of jefferson.
      Well- welcome to the “Brave ANew World”. When I go back to where I grew up- same thing. Obviously those areas are not being “integrated” in a timely manner. Agricultural?

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  • TheBurningTruth
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:52am

    This it total garbage. Everywhere I go, cash payment is taken BEFORE the pump is activated and the total volume pumped is set inside the store. There simply is NO justifiable reason to require a drivers license ID to buy something with cash.

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:08am

      Here in KY that‘s how it’s done. I would assume other states do as well.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:09am

      Agreed. I haven‘t seen a gas station that didn’t require pre-pay (either cash or credit card) in years.
      And I don’t believe for one minute that “your information is kept in the store for a very short time”. Uh-huh, sure.

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    • AugustKat
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:30pm

      I quite agree. Thankfully, this isn’t in California yet, and I hope it never gets here. I won’t buy from any gas station that uses this. There is no reason for me to be swiping my driver’s license before I use any form of payment.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:48am

    Ummmm, installing expensive technology …..ok, ever see the little sign that says “ pay before you pump ” …… The reason they are stealing from the store owner is because hes an idiot….. And those signs cost about fifty cents…. Slow news day or what, can ya’ll grab some stories from Drudge and post em here…. They wont know !!!!

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  • steve-in-pa
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:47am

    I miss the days when I did not have to worry about losing my keys because I left my house and car unlocked and that was only a few years ago.

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  • NewLife56
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:46am

    WHAT?? Where’s Eric Folder? Can this be Legal? Or will he sue because this would hurt the poor?

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    • TheBurningTruth
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:50am

      Now you need a photoID (that’s that all drivers licenses are) to buy gas, but still not to vote?

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  • Drakkhanlord
    Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:45am

    will not use the business…

    bs govt …

    already have to pay to turn the pump on at most stations.

    but do not need id when voting,,,

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:33am

      Couoldn’t agree more! Total BS! So, if an illegal, who doesn’t have a license, driving that nice new ride, doesn’t want to scan his non existant DL. . Holder and the boys come charging to the rescue- – -or are they now issuing gas cards for illegals too!

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    • Drakkhanlord
      Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:59am

      all part of the plan…

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