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Penn Jillette Goes on Epic Anti-Obama Tirade: ‘States’ Rights Don’t Mean Jack S**t to the Obama Administration’

Penn Jillette, tell us how you really feel.

During a recent episode of “Penn’s Sunday School” (posted on YouTube on Saturday), the popular entertainer and Libertarian unloaded on the Obama administration over its drug policy.

“Now, he has not left this to states’ rights,” Jillette said. “As you know, medical marijuana you can get in California, and the feds are coming in to try to stop this. States‘ rights don’t mean jack s**t to the Obama administration on anything except gay marriage.”

He then posited that Obama’s recent appearance on Jimmy Fallon — where Obama addressed legalizing drugs — was an attempt to make himself look cool and appeal to college kids. He also noted that Obama would not be president if he had been caught and charged for his admitted drug use:

What troubles me about this… I think it’s beyond hypocrisy. I think it’s something to do with class. A lot of people have accused Obama of class warfare, but in the wrong direction. I believe this is Obama chortling with Jimmy Fallon about lower class people. Do we believe, even for a second, that if Obama had been busted for marijuana — under the laws that he condones — would his life have been better? If Obama had been caught with the marijuana that he says he uses, and ‘maybe a little blow’… . This casual attitude towards drugs … that makes him really cool on Jimmy Fallon. Makes him the hip president. … And if he had been busted under his laws, he would have done hard f*cking time. And if he had done time in prison, time in federal prison, time for his ‘weed’ and ‘a little blow,’ he would not be president of the United States of America. And he would not have gone to his fancy-a** college; he would not have sold books that sold millions and millions of copies and made millions and millions of dollars; he would not have a beautiful, smart wife; he would not have a great job! He would have been in f*cking prison, and it’s not a god damn joke! People who smoke marijuana must be set free! It is insane to lock people up.

Jillette went on to say that he’s never done any drugs or even had any alcohol, but that doesn’t stop him from being an advocate for legalizing marijuana.

You can watch the epic, but profanity-laced, rant below (content warning):

(H/T: Fox Nation)

 

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  • libertarianmom
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:50pm

    Just to clarify, “libertarian,“ ”libertine“ and ”liberal” are not interchangeable terms. Some more excellent thoughts from Penn:

    “It’s amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness.

    “People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered, and if we‘re compassionate we’ll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint.”

    Read the entire essay here: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-08-16/opinion/jillette.atheist.libertarian_1_piers-morgan-friend-minimum-wage?_s=PM:OPINION

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    • 229Mick
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:51pm

      Solid points. And he’s right on pot too.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:11pm

      “Just to clarify, “libertarian,“ ”libertine“ and ”liberal” are not interchangeable terms.”

      You say Toe-May-Toe…. I say Toe-Mah-Toe…

      Libertarians/Libertines/Liberals all work together when it fits their like-minded causes.

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    • JohnGalt
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:21pm

      My respect for Penn just went up a 100 fold. Always thought he was a liberal, thank God he’s much smarter than that!

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    • Unix
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:33pm

      Obama, our first admitted drug user President, ain’t that swell?! Send that great message to our kids, eh, Mr. President, sniff!

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    • Laken
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:43pm

      WE MUST TAKE AMERICA BACK…….

      Ted Cruz running for U S Senate in Texas……his video on Fast and Furious….

      http://senateconservatives.com/site/post/1337/ted-cruz-video-fast-and-furious

      Support Conservatives For Senate…

      https://www.conservativesenate.com/step0?c=RP4FB32B5695CFC

      http://senateconservatives.com/

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    • black9897
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:12pm

      My respect just went up to. Already liked the guy, now I like him even more!

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    • Laken
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:12pm

      http://www.facebook.com/scfpac

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    • Jackers
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:49pm

      And Penn Jillette would be absolutely right! This Administration has no respect for states’ rights except when it comes to gay marriage… How convenient for Barack Obama.

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    • SPOT_OF_TEA
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:55pm

      Lets not be so fast to pat anyone on the back who is critical of Obama…..it is funny to see so many people willing and eager to legalize drugs just because the one asking is bashing Obama lol.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 8:31pm

      @UNIX …. Good post ..Obama makes a poor example of everything…

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    • k1607
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 11:07pm

      very good points-way to speak it Penn

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    • tedluk
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 11:11pm

      @spot_of_tea – Jillette is very consistent in his opinions. He’s been for legalizing drugs for a long time- And he’s spot on!

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 11:42pm

      He’s also an Atheist. :-D

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    • usedCZARsalesman
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 12:41am

      the only thing that has even been disturbing about Penn is that he can’t differentiate between heavily corrupt organized religion (ie. the catholic church, black liberation theology, mega churches/tele-evangelists) and the vast majority of the religious (and that includes a lot of catholic, just the Church itself is corrupt)…he falls into that “militant atheist” category and that’s always kinda scary

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    • Kevin The Elder
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 5:54am

      Can’t say I never did alcohol, but like Jillette, I can honestly declare that I never did ANY drug, so I can’t be accused of having an ax. One in six are in prison simply because they smoked marijuana? Really? And what is accomplished by imprisoning these people? I just googled the question as to what percentage of us smoke marijuana. I didn’t find a factual site. Those I found claim the usage is 50% or more. Even if that figure is really 25% it would seem to me that we should have a national referendum on the question about legalization, with real public discussions ahead of time, such as if it costs $40,000 per year per prisoner and one in six people in prison are there simply because they smoked…?

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    • nuttyvet
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 6:13am

      @time_2_end- you know nothing about libertarianism!

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    • Kevin The Elder
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 7:03am

      I was just thinking, wondering about We The People of 1776 and the Founding Fathers, and what their politics were as compared to today. It would seem that the vast majority, likely 90-95%, would be classified as Libertarians by today’s standards, and they are the people that most people today show deep respect for. They were people who just wanted to be left alone to fend for themselves. Why is the vast majority of today’s people condone so many laws and regulations that suppress the rights of others?

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    • docjake54
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 9:17am

      I listened to the insane rantings of Penn Gillette. His solution to our problems is do away with all morality, laws restricting bad or dangerous behavior, and let each man become his own law system. As a libertine atheist whose belief system allows for no after life and nothing more than you can get out of this short life one’s philosophical embrace and sage view boils down to “eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.” This is a natural reaction when one holds a godless world view. No God No Silly Rules.. The only problem is that his views have a history. Call him a libertarian, libertine or liberal his path always leads to the same dark place … anarchy. His philosophy is that we have no right to inflict our Christian morality on him. His libertine political system allows for no god, no rules, no consequences. But every political system is religious by its very nature. What Penn Gillette and those of who reside in his asylum want is place in government and reflect in law his atheist religious world view. Does atheism deny the existence of god. No. It elevates man and his mind to the position of God. It is the making of the god of reason, ie the French Revolution. Man is now god and government is all about pleasing him. I will not willingly acquiesce to the replacement of a law system based upon a Judeo/Christian understanding of life with the demonic anarchist world view and law system of the dangerously unhinged like Penn Gillette.

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    • davecorkery
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 10:43am

      Hey, Time_to_end_the_paul… Get a dictionary: A libertarian is a conservative. They believe in really small government, ie, an army for national security, a judiciary, virtually no social programs, every man to stand on his own two feet, self responsibility, states rights. No consumer protection agencies either. Got a problem with a corporation? Sue them. Libertarianism sounds good on paper. They are doing this right now in Namibia, South Africa, and others. These two countries are a republicans dream. Almost no policing, only businessmen make money, highest rape stats and suicide among white males in the world. Go, Romney. No, really, just go.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 11:12am

      But O’Blamer is a “ROCK STAR”..that’s what rock stars DO..
      He’s a real COOL DUDE with his Commie Liberal BIMBOS..
      If I racked up DEBT like this POS has, I’d be in JAIL……..
      Send these ************************back to CHITOWN in Nov.

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    • Laken
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 12:42pm

      Vid….If I Was Your President…Boyfriend Spoof

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPL1tG4caA

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    • dianna9490
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 3:58pm

      U r wrong! People need to feed themselves by having a job and if one job is not enough then they should have two jobs! It IS NOT THE GOVERN RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE YOU ANYTHING! You can earn it just like our forefathers! I am sick of the entitlement society – its a game to them – the more babies the more free crap – GET A DANG JOB – GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND GET A JOB! Obamascammer just wants people to think he cares about them – yea right – just like THE SHOVEL READY JOBS (laugh laugh) R people really this dumb to believe this liar? God said that people should be like ants – ants are born to work until they die!

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    • MAMMY_NUNN
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 10:49pm

      And some people are dumb enough to believe Obama has no police record. “I don’t buy it”.

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    • CWinBaltimore
      Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:26am

      @ JACKERS and 229MICK, you BOTH missed it! he said the only time states rights matter in over gay marriage, what happened when the voters in California passed Prop 8 and made gay marriage illegal? The Federal courts stepped in and struck it down! so they don’t even care then.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on May 24, 2012 at 4:28pm

      Two good videos on the the libertarian position on drugs.

      The whole point is that you don‘t want to give government the power to tell you what you can or can’t put into your own body. That power can be used to take your liberty to, say, drink raw milk.

      See here.

      Defending the Undefendable (Chapter 4: The Drug Pusher) by Walter Block
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT1WgD1Ujh8

      And here.

      Defending the Undefendable (Chapter 5: The Drug Addict) by Walter Block
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZnnP3scLU

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on June 5, 2012 at 12:24pm

      Penn is a libertarian, not a liberal.

      The Republican Party needs to welcome libertarians into the party or Obama will probably get another 4 years.

      Last week nearly half of the Republican Delegates in Washington State were Ron Paulians.

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      Your hate for Ron Paul pollutes your ability to think objectively. Even Ronald Reagan your messiah said that libertarianism is the core of conservatism. I would love a forum to debate your inconsistent philosophy on ANY subject.

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  • Chevalier
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:48pm

    He had me until he said, “he would not have a beautiful, smart wife;” Was Obama married before? He surely wasn’t talking about Michelle, was he?

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    • thegreatcarnac
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:58pm

      Naw….can’t be Mooschelle…….she be ugly.

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    • OklahomaMike
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:13pm

      Staying above crude personal attacks lends credibility to one’s other comments…

      Though I think Barack O. is a dangerously naive and destructive president, that doesn’t prevent me from saying that Michelle has a very curvy body and a fairly nice face.

      Is it any more classy when people here make fun of Michelle‘s looks than it is when people on the Left make fun of Sarah Palin’s, or other conservative women’s, looks?

      There are so many good and substantive ways to argue against Obama. Making fun of his wife is not only not one of them, it’s crude and counter-productive.

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    • eaglescout1998
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 8:38pm

      Michelle Obama is more attractive than Hillary Clinton.

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    • goldmankc
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 10:25pm

      roflmao!!!

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    • ZaphodsPlanet
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 10:29pm

      We pay in excess of what? $6 freaking MILLION for her damn staff every year. And how many BILLIONS has she wasted being jetted around the globe on our dime. We didn’t elect her but for some reason she costs as much as a nice chunk of the military. So I feel no harm in saying that I agree with Penn until he starts saying MO is attractive and smart. She has the chin of a man, feet bigger than BO, and ass the size of an elephant and she’s got an attitude problem the size of Alaska. I wouldn’t screw her with your “johnson” as a joke …. for charity. There’s not enough beer, gin or drugs of any kind on this planet. The reason the media was so focused on her arms was because…. They‘re the only part of her that’s NOT UGLY. On top of her eyes behind too close together and her man chin what really makes her even uglier and more insanely STUPID is what’s on the inside. The woman is a tanorexic version of pure white trash. She’s as much of a narcissist as her commie husband. Oh yeah… and most color blind 5 year olds would have better tastes in clothes.

      It’s time we change our history, our congress, our senate, our president…. and our tramp of a first lady. Screw the “Political Correctness”.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 12:04pm

      Wonder if Michaell handled the family budget before they took
      the White House..could not have been SMILEY..like someone
      said before, this AH couldn’t run a Lemon-Aid Stand..and they
      have the balls to knock ROMNEY..the only thing this guy has
      accomplished is to rack-up the most frequent flyer miles on
      Air-Force-One while being POTUS…The only thing……………

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    • Luvs2golf
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 4:32pm

      Penn wrote…………he would not have a beautiful, smart wife:

      I was just going to say: really, you think? Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder I guess, lol. I’d better not put in print how I would describe her!

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  • tckid17
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:47pm

    Long live Penn and Teller. You gotta see their show in Vegas!

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    • Redwood Elf
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:16pm

      Yeah, they rock the Rio casino. I got em to autograph a DVD set of season six of their showtime “********” show.

      Penn is never shy about making his political position very, very, VERY clear. And in case you didn’t get it the first time, he says it again, louder.

      I love the little metal cards they sell at their Rio gift shop with the bill of rights printed on it, with the fourth amendment in red (That’s the one about unreasonable searches and siezures) Like he says, if your constitutional rights are going to be violated at the airport, they might as well be violated because of the Bill of Rights! Every American needs one of those cards.

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    • llotus
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 9:36pm

      Eaglescout……thats not much of a compliment to the first lady…….a wombat could quite possibly be better looking than Hillary. Lotus.

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  • Chevalier
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:45pm

    He had my attention until he said, “he would not have a beautiful, smart wife;”. . .was Obama married before? He can’t be talking about Michelle?

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    • PatrickW
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:14pm

      Sad, sad and pathetic.

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    • crazyrightwingmom
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 9:16pm

      You know, I agree, we shouldn’t do personal attacks on her. But she has put herself in the spotlight with trying to control our lives, with her fake veggie garden, with her queen-like life and assistants. It is this that has turned us off….not to mention I wish I could just go on a weekend vacation! These Libs. pretty much ruined that for me!

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  • Wesley
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:41pm

    I’m entirely with Penn on this I don’t need to have him list names he is correct, if you need names check the federal court dockets yourself. The entire “War on Drugs” is a misguided disaster that has cost us far more in lost freedoms than it has gained us in safety. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin. Drugs are a problem that need to be addressed but prohibition did not work with alcohol and the absurdity of declaring war on inanimate substances then thinking that would allow prohibition of drugs like marijuana to work is pure folly. Just one example of what that folly has given us are the psychotic Mexican crime cartels that make Al-Qaida seem civilized by comparison, their brutality, and depravity are unrivaled in our time.

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    • UnionSeeker
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 6:52pm

      The Criminalization of Drugs is the cause of the “Drug Problem.” Decriminalization is not the same as legalization. Those who want people jailed for sin have established religion. Jailing drug users has proved to be no more effective at reducing the incidence of addiction than jailing insulin users would be at reducing the incidence of diabetes. Drug addicts are sick, throwing them in jail makes them sicker.

      According to Christ, the only unforgivable sin is the condemnation of other sinners and that is the essence of the criminalization of sin, be it drugs, sex, gluttony or greed.

      Government must follow God’s law of Love or it will not survive. The Founding Fathers recognized this and wrote the Constitution to reflect it. Recognizing Rights come from God is the essence of Love. Government, corporations and individuals must operate inside their jurisdictional limits and the breach of those limits is what causes all the evil in the World.

      Personal sin, no matter how abhorrent is not evil until magnified by collectivization. The right by criminalization sin and the left by criminalization charity have encroached the individuals domain and established virtual slavery.

      Limited Government 101.

      PROVIDE, stable currency, nothing more. (Rights are not provided by government)
      PROTECT, property, nothing more. (Rights are the God given property of individuals)
      PROMOTE, general welfare. (by giving credit to individuals who provide, setting thresholds, etc.)

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  • MotoMofo
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:34pm

    He sounds like Rush at times.

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    • charleyrocks
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:46pm

      I agree kudo’s to legal mj no one should be in jail for what the indians do when wanted and needed.

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  • GoodStuff
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:30pm

    of course his rant has to do with pot. Big surprise. Do liberaltarians care about anything else except getting high?

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    • Kathleen
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:31pm

      Exactly. With so many issues to debate, its all about pot.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:49pm

      Pot (and other drugs) are a very important issue. Not because of the drugs themselves, but because of the civil rights implications of our drug laws. Government uses drugs as an excuse to violate our civil rights, enrich themselves (private business and unions as well), and spend tons of tax-payer money in the process. So tell us, how are civil rights and spending unimportant issues?

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    • lordaction
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:51pm

      That is an ignorant statement. Libertarians are about state rights, following the Constitution and not using force or fraud against other individuals.

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    • GB__The Holy Warmonger
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:51pm

      A person would have to have their head ….let’s just say in the clouds to make such a stupid assertion.

      I find it interesting that so called conservatives feel threatened by libertarians. I’m beginning to believe that conservatives are for big government just like liberals just a different brand. Conservatives and libertarians should be on the same side.

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    • countryubergeek
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:08pm

      Yes, we do care about other things and no, it’s not about getting “high”. Drug use is not the problem, drug abuse is; one beer is use, fifty at a time is abuse. There is no logical reason for marijuana use to be a crime, especially if one considers the degree of harm. Under that standard, alcohol should be banned because of the number of deaths directly related to its use. Locking people up and destroying their lives because of extremist laws applied to a relatively innocuous substance causes more harm than good, and not incidentally costs us untold billions every year. Prohobition does not work as history teaches us; education does. As for mariuana somehow leading to the use of “hard” drugs, that’s like saying (in former Seattle police chief Norm Stamper’s words) that milk is a gateway drug for alcohol.

      It is time to stop the madness and the injustice dished out to thousands of people every day. Logic and history are on Penn’s side and hopefully the destruction of lives and damage to our freedoms will stop very soon. Penn is also right that Obama is being incredibly hypocritical, and that this is yet another example of Obama’s pandering to whatever audience he is in front of. Obama has no ideology, just ego.

      I don’t agree with everything that Penn says, but he is absolutely, 100 percent correct on this topic.

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    • Dishevel
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:48pm

      Conservatives != Republicans.
      Republicans, Democrats, Green Party and Liberals all want the expansion of government.
      Libertarians and the Tea Party want smaller federal governments.
      Not to say that the groups all agree with each other on other things, they do not.
      But I am for a smaller and a more accountable federal government.

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:06pm

      @Goodstuff, If you think it’s about weed, you’re in your own little world. Practically all the Libertarians on here are posting about sound money, our constitutional rights, undeclared wars, or Republican politcians who are progressives. You know, like how all you “social conservatives” are really progressives.

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    • OklahomaMike
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:25pm

      Let’s not be tunnel-visioned and simplistic. He‘s railing against an oppressive federal government mixing into people’s lives and locking citizens up for doing something that should be no different in the eyes of the law than having a glass of wine. So it’s not about pot. It’s about a control-freak federal government.

      It’s also about how many dollars and lives have been wasted by this crazy drug war, and how wealthy it has made the gangs and drug cartels…and therefore how it has destabilized society.

      Wise up: Don’t think in buzzwords. Think about the real issue. Just because you hear the word “drugs” doesn‘t mean that the behavior is terrible or that the government’s actions are correct. Think about what’s really going on, and how the federal government is unnecessarily locking up millions of people, spending billions of taxpayers’ money, making gangs and drug cartels rich, making our streets more dangerous–and even with all that, not solving the “drug problem” in any way at all!

      What ever happened to conservatives’ belief in individual freedom, lower government spending, states’ rights, and less intrusive federal government?

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    • jonboy1903
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 10:02pm

      The freedom that Penn is raving about is not only linked to the capability of a person using a natural substance for enjoyment. I guess you didn’t read the part about him never using alcohol or drugs at all. It is about stupidity of the closed and ignorant mind and the thinking that “you must do as I say because I am the normal one.” People should be more free to do what they want, if they want to build a bonfire of pot and sniff it all up and dance naked and sing, it is really none of your tiny minded business…We are the least free people on Earth and Obama wishes to to leash us with more chains of debt, ruls and regulations, and bureaucracy while promoting the freedom to engage in meaningless things like gay marriage…

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 1:38am

      @goodstuff

      Your posts are always bad. Did you even bother listening to this clip? He is a libertarian, he doesnt do drugs and never has. I dont want crack to be legal. I would want my state to keep it illegal. I dont want the Federal government spending money on a drug war that just doesnt work. Let the states decide these issues.

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    • DissenterKnight
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 3:18pm

      “Pot (and other drugs) are a very important issue. Not because of the drugs themselves, but because of the civil rights implications of our drug laws. Government uses drugs as an excuse to violate our civil rights, enrich themselves (private business and unions as well), and spend tons of tax-payer money in the process. So tell us, how are civil rights and spending unimportant issues?”

      Bruce P. makes an excellent point. Consider the story we saw here about the man from Ohio pulled over on his way back home from St. Louis. The pretense for searching his car was an alleged hit by the drug dog. The War on Drugs is a weaponized phrase similar to “Republicans are for dirty (air, water, etc.)”.

      I am not and have never been a drug user or even a heavy consumer of libation (stone sober for 20+ years). But, drug legislation should be a state issue. Want to live in a state where drugs (or gambling, or prostitution for that matter) are legal; find one and move there. Want to live in a state where drug use (or alcohol consumption, or business transactions on Sunday) is illegal, find one and move there. This is what the Founders had in mind.

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    • UnionSeeker
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 7:21pm

      ABSOLUTELY NOT, the issue has little to do with Pot, it’s about the breach of jurisdiction corrupting medicine and driving up the cost of health care. It’s about government confiscation and collectivization of wages, jailing people for sin, a justice system the re-victimizes victims in the name of deterrence and leaves them twisting in the wind after “perpetrators” are punished. In true justice there are no crimes against government. Justice is a blind re-balancing, restoring what has been taken to those it was taken from.

      The more fear an punishment are used to force people to live “right” the more evil society gets. The criminalization of alcohol empowered corruption that still haunts us today and the criminalization of drugs is causing corruption orders of magnitude worse. Those who started and support “the war on drugs” are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands in Mexico and the ruination of hundreds of thousands of lives in this country. Willful blindness and self righteous bigotry against people addicted to drugs will be no excuse for people when they reach the Pearly Gates and find they’re at the Gates of Hell.

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  • Roboteer
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:28pm

    That’s the ANSWER!!!!! Somebody use the Way Back Machine, go back to when Obama was in HS and ‘drop a dime’ on him!….. Except now we’d have Hillary. Nevermind. [sigh]

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  • dont_drive_slow_in_the_left_lane_obliviot
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:26pm

    i’m mostly with you on this one. all prohibition did was waste resources, get people killed, and made criminals rich and powerful, and corrupted the gov. legalize pot, regulate and tax it and watch the cartels lose power. liquor was harder to get after prohibition than before!

    10A, states rights.

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 8:29pm

      Yeah – That‘s were the Kennedy’s got their money. Joe Kennedy used to run moonshine during prohibition.

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    • ADNIL
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 5:32am

      Not to mention the crimimal just-us and incarceration industry funded by your tax dollars. They will not be legalizing anything anytime soon. There is too much money being made and spent on both sides.

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  • newmexican
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:25pm

    Go Penn!!!! Penn for Prez!!

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  • Meyvn
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:13pm

    And if state‘s right don’t mean Jack, so much for the individual eh? Buck Ofama!

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  • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:09pm

    Gillette is an Atheist Libertarian/Libertine/Liberal. Not to be taken seriously. But Obama bashing is always a good thing… but better when served “Conservatively.”

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:11pm

      Sorry…. “Jillette”… he certainly ain’t no razor.

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    • Locked
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:22pm

      “Atheist Libertarian/Libertine/Liberal.”

      That fact that you equate Libertarian (individual freedom, small government) to Libertine (devoid of moral restraints… an odd accusation against a man who’s never smoked, drank, nor done drugs) and Liberal (big government, pro-regulation, irresponsibility) shows that you’re a one-trick pony. Now that Ron Paul’s stopped his campaign, you’re quickly just becoming a troll.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:26pm

      LOCKED. I guess you don’t like my opinion eh?

      Well here’s another then…

      Libertarians and Atheists: A Dangerous Mix: http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/03/19/599/

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:32pm

      If government is essentially the collective exercise of the individual right to self-defense, then of course people are within their rights to protect themselves from drug-related crimes and accidents by prohibiting the source. Conservatives in particular should know better than to fall for libertarians’ superficially appealing arguments about the “right” to do drugs—John Locke himself argued that man’s power over his own body was not absolute, that liberty didn’t cover the right to enslave or destroy one’s self:

      […] a man, not having the power of his own life, cannot, by compact, or his own consent, enslave himself to any one, nor put himself under the absolute, arbitrary power of another, to take away his life, when he pleases. No body can give more power than he has himself; and he that cannot take away his own life, cannot give another power over it […] But though this be a state of liberty, yet it is not a state of licence: though man in that state have an uncontroulable liberty to dispose of his person or possessions, yet he has not liberty to destroy himself […]

      Liberty requires that we to put up with a lot from our neighbors, but indulging the chaos that mind-altering substances inflict upon society is a bridge too far.

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    • Locked
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:38pm

      ” I guess you don’t like my opinion eh?”

      Nah, I just like to point out that you’re both:
      A. A troll, and
      B. Wrong

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    • GB__The Holy Warmonger
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:42pm

      That’s like saying Conservative, Confiscate, and Concoct are all synonymous.

      And fyi, I heard on the radio that Ron Paul just picked up 12 of 13 delegates from Minnesota. Haven‘t confirmed that but I’m sure TheBlaze being such an unbiased source of news will be sure to report on it.

      Time to end the war on liberty.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:52pm

      LOCKED. Lmao… sooo what you’re saying is that if I deviate from YOUR view… I MUST be a “troll” and most definately wrong. Try again. I never liked that “troll” jargon anyways. Makes the accuser (like you) seem rather nerdy if you ask me.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:54pm

      It is not about the “right” to do drugs, but how drugs are used as a boogeyman by the government for all sorts of shenanigans that violate our Constitution, our trust, and our pocketbooks. The War on Drugs is cover for a war against the citizenry.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:57pm

      GB_ _ Talking about the GOP Convention because that‘s what you’re alluding to…

      Top Paul Supporter Tells Delegates To Disrupt Convention http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/ron-paul-supporter-who-contemplated-romney-killing

      Lol.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:04pm

      BRUCE P. Some will do anything, say anything, write anything to try and rationalize drug usage. Nice spin BRUCE. And of course it’s NOT the spinners here who do the drugs… they just try and rationalize it for ALL those other poor souls who want the freedom to intoxicate themselves with immediate and harmful mind-altering substances.

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    • Fella
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:50pm

      Like cancer patients. Just suffer, Time_2_end, knows best.

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    • countryubergeek
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:50pm

      “Liberty requires that we to put up with a lot from our neighbors, but indulging the chaos that mind-altering substances inflict upon society is a bridge too far.”

      Then you would support the prohobition of alcohol, many blood pressure meds, all opiod painkillers, psychotropic drugs like Ritalin, etc.?

      We’ve tried the approach you are suggesting; it was called “Prohibition” and it caused an upward spiral of crime and killing that was breathtaking in scope. Not to mention overloading the justice system and ruining the lives of innocent bystanders caught up in over-broad laws and gunfire between bootleggers and police. One cannot assume that the club of government is going to do less damage than the substances one wants to control.

      What of the people who use so-called “dangerous” drugs because it’s the only medical option they have? Should we condemn thousands to screaming pain for the rest of their lives because of the misplaced moral objections of a few people? This was actually suggested in one state, forcing many to consider moving so they could get pain control meds for their MS, arthritis and neuralgia.

      Drugs are not the problem; people abusing them is the problem. By the logic of Prohibition, we should ban all firearms, but our founders understood that doing so would place us at the mercy of an armed elite. Which problem do you prefer?

      I would suggest that education and a strong personal moral code are far more effective than a police state.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:59pm

      FELLA. YOU’RE BACK! I was just talking about you!

      Actually, no I wasn’t… but welcome anyways. You care to stand up for the drug addled with a cry of FREEEEDOM for the oppressed??

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    • FromSeaToSea
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:10pm

      This guy TIME-2-END-THE-PAUL-CAMPAIGN-IN-12 is either a marxist, paid banking cartel blogger, or an idiot. Of all the presidential candidates for the last 20+ years, Paul is the only one willing to give your freedoms back with the stroke of a pen.

      This guy needs to pack for N. Korea.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:11pm

      GEEK. Reefer, sorry, refer to my BRUCE P post about rationalization and then look at the material I have provided (ton more where that came from). You won’t change my mind, so I‘m not going to try and change your’s. I do however agree with your point that regarding abuse and personal responsibility. We’re stuck with alcohol I guess, but there is no need to compound the situation with other crap that affects one’s mind by choice. Why would someone want to put a thief in their mouths to steal their brains?

      Btw, I think in certain cases that medicinal marijuana is a helpful tool, but I also think the medicinal marijuana program is a ruse and failure in many aspects.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:13pm

      SEA. Lol. Been to South Korea… does THAT count??

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 6:59pm

      TIME_2_END — it is not spin. It is fact. The excuse of drugs has been used to violate the Constitution, pardon abuses by law enforcement, enrich the government, enrich unions and private business (both in the prison industry). It is not spin so that people may intoxicate themselves; rather an effort to protect ourselves from the abuses of government. You on the other hand are defending these abuses because “drugs are bad, mmm’kay!” You are no different than Obama or the progressive who want to use government-force to change individual behavior.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:17pm

      Contrary to TIME_2_END’s claims he has provided materials that show a sound justification for government abuses of the citizenry in the drug war, he has shown us nothing to support that. His only justification is an impotent one, that since “drugs are bad” therefore it is justified for the government to violate civil rights. What he has shown is that he is on the side of an abusive government, wasteful spending, big unions and crony corporations. And in that, he has shown he is no conservative.

      There is no need to “indulge” the chaos of mind-altering substances, even if drugs were decriminalized. We already have laws against driving while intoxicated, public intoxication, bans on smoking in certain locations. Such laws already apply to drugs; there is no reason to suppose they would not continue to be enforced even after decriminalization. The benefits outweigh the risks; there is no reason to believe that the rate of drug-use or abuse would skyrocket after decriminalization. Those who want to intoxication themselves are already doing so.

      However, what we would gain many things. We would strip from the government an excuse to abuse the citizens. The private prison business and prison guard unions that write our drug-laws, and push for harsh punishments, would have their power weakened. Valuable resources, money and man-power, would be freed up.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:32pm

      BRUCE P. First, it’s simply insane to do anything federally that would increase drug use (and let’s not kid ourselves, that’s exactly what would happen) until after we’ve secured the southern border drugs are currently pouring across, and dismantled whatever federal programs currently force taxpayers to pay for drug users’ bad decisions.

      Second, persons with a particular drug legalization agenda want to go further. In recent years, a growing number of voices on both sides have called for a wholesale end to drug prohibition. For leftists, drug use is a personal lifestyle choice, the condemnation of which would be the unpardonable sin of judgmentalism, while legalizers on the Right frame the issue around personal responsibility, suggesting it’s paternalistic for government to keep people from putting harmful things in their systems.

      Well, yes, that would be paternalistic…if that were society’s only beef with narcotics. But drugs aren’t like Big Macs or cigarettes. It’s one thing to clog your arteries or ravage your lungs; it’s quite another to consume substances that warp your mind or dull your senses to the point where you become a threat to the rights of others. And despite what the legalizers say, drugs use certainly isn’t victimless… not even when it comes to marijuana, allegedly the safest of the bunch. Many studies have shown the harmful effects both in the short and definately the long term.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:36pm

      The British Medical Journal unveiled the results of a ten-year study of German adolescents and young adults, which confirmed cannabis as a factor in “increasing the risk of incident psychotic experiences and if use continues over time, increasing the risk of persistent psychotic experiences.” A 2008 study by the University of Melbourne agrees, finding that “long-term cannabis users were more prone to a range of psychotic experiences.” The Tides Center’s Schizophrenia.com lists thirty studies indicating a connection between pot and schizophrenia. According to a 2004 study by the Netherlands’ Maastricht University, “THC [pot’s main psychoactive substance] positives, particularly at higher doses, are about three to seven times more likely to be responsible” for car crashes than factors unrelated to pot or alcohol. Other studies have linked marijuana to increased paranoia, anxiety, risk-taking, inability to focus, and distorted sense of time.

      The result? The Center for Disease Control says that drugs other than alcohol are a factor in around 18% of driver deaths. The Substance Abuse & Mental Health Service Administration’s data isn’t pretty, either—their 2004 National Survey on Drug Use & Health found that the “percentages of youths engaging in delinquent behaviors” such as theft and assault steadily rose alongside “increasing frequency of marijuana use”; while in 2005 they reported a strong correlation between drug use and other crimes.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:43pm

      You have still not shown us how drugs being bad justifies abuses of government.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 8:51pm

      BRUCE. I’ve been waiting for you to tell me from A to Z besides the few comment bites you offer up like “civil rights, private prisons, unions, freeing up this and freeing up that” etc. You brought it up, you seem to be in the know…. so answer your own question and enlighten me.

      I certainly don’t feel like MY civil rights have been violated in any way regarding the war on drugs… have your’s? I’ve never been in jail/prison for anything at all, let alone drugs… you? I’m not at all happy about where all my tax dollars go, but I have no problem helping fund this war… you?

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    • deeberj
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 1:43pm

      Time2end – You said “It’s one thing to clog your arteries or ravage your lungs; it’s quite another to consume substances that warp your mind or dull your senses to the point where you become a threat to the rights of others”

      We already have laws that get people in trouble if they commit crimes or as you say “become a threat to the rights of others” from having a warped mind or dull senses. We don’t need drugs to be illegal to enforce those laws.

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  • randy
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:08pm

    Sorry Penn, You lost me when you stated Obama has a smart and beautiful wife……
    Seriously? Come on Penn, she’s a freaking COW!

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  • Bruce P.
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:04pm

    Our drug laws are not in place to protect people from drugs, but to enrich the government, unions and private industry, as well as giving government an excuse to violate our civil rights. And we allow it, because “drugs are bad!”

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    • UnionSeeker
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 7:46pm

      time_to_end is either a troll or deceived. The Criminalization of Drugs is what’s causing the Drug Problem. It drives retail sales down into collages, high schools and even grade schools. The easiest way for Drug damaged people to support their habit is by pushing drugs. Organized crime wants and needs drugs to remain illegal, it’s gives them a way to corrupt and and get a hold on people like Clinton the coke head, Holder the gun runner and a raft of whores dependent on chemicals they control the supply of. Those who perpetuate illegal drugs are useful idiots for immoral people profiting from their stupidity. Ron Paul isn’t the best candidate, he‘s the only candidate who recognizes the breach of limits is causing America’s decline.

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  • kentuckypatriot
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:03pm

    With all this obummer bashing by comedians lately, Jillette, Lovitz, and Adam Corolla should all get together and tell Americans how they really feel!

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  • rickc34
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:03pm

    first of all they must have changed the meaning of cool since I was in school have you seen the pictures of the president back then ? He looked like a dork . No cool kid would of hung around him back in the day that’s why he was pushing girls around and by the way he still looks like a dork. So I guess dork is the new cool!!!

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  • Baikonur
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:55pm

    I think the hack that wrote this blurb doesn’t realize that Penn and Jillette are two separate people.

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    • Mark0331
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:07pm

      Penn & Teller (Penn Jillette and Teller) are American illusionists and entertainers who have performed together since the late 1970s, and are known for their numerous stage and television shows.

      …left yourself wide open for that…don‘t throw around ’hack’ so easily..learn something, anything, before posting..

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:16pm

      LOL,

      Hey Baikonur, just so you know, Gillette, and Wilkinson are two different companies that manufacture razor blades.

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  • possom
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:54pm

    pppppffffffttttt!!!!!!

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  • Tom K
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:52pm

    Penn Jillette – keep it real Mister and give ‘em hell.

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  • Wigan
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:49pm

    Wonder if Obama’s stand would anger the Choom gang from Hawaii High School?

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  • Sniprfire
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:49pm

    It is a Joke… but the Joke will end in November…

    America lets take our Country Back from these A__ Bags

    Nov 2012

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:48pm

    The matter is very simple with Obama’s fanatical point of view:

    The Federal government must dominate and control all aspects of life; the States rights mean, as with the individual, NOTHING.

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  • broker0101
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:48pm

    Please, Penn, cite for us ONE example of someone in Federal Prison for “smoking pot” as your last quoted sentence implies. Forgive us if we don’t hold our breath.
    Penn is a fairly bright guy; it’s a shame he chooses to use pitiful Straw Man arguments to try to persuade people. Makes him too smart by half, in my book.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:01pm

      He didn’t say federal prison. It is not implied in his sentence. He said, “prison.” That’s it.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:03pm

      When I retired from the Army, there were a good number of military personnel in federal pens for just that.

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    • grunt24
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:10pm

      (2011 – prisons & drug offenders – inmates in federal prison for drug offenses) “Of the inmates residing in federal prisons as of September 2011, and for whom offense data are known, more than half (101,929 or 50.4%) were serving sentences for federal drug offenses—including simple possession.49 And of the 24,366 federal drug offenders known to have been sentenced for drug related offenses, 6,336 were sentenced for marijuana-related offenses and 4,309 were sentenced for methamphetamine-related offenses in 2010.50″

      do your own research http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Prisons_and_Drugs#Federal-Data

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    • Mark0331
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:11pm

      @RJJ….yup, exactly..many good Marines I served with did a stretch in the Brig just for burning one on a boozey weekend….rules are rules…

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  • Locked
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:43pm

    Jillette is an atheist whom I really respect. He doesn’t force his views on others, he calls out BS when and where he sees it, and doesn’t hold much back. And best of all, he can be funny while doing it!

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:07pm

      LOCKED, I will have to agree with you this one. Even though Penn is an atheist he has been open to dialogue with a variety of religious personnel and does not have the usual metal meltdown like ENCINO_NAMBLA_MAN, JZS, and a number of others here.

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    • Mark0331
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:10pm

      @LOCKED…I agree with your statement….I have atheists friends and they are more like Penn, sensible and fun..not angry and in your face…cool, we can agree and disagree…there is hope in world..;-)

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 4:46pm

      Have you guys considered that he is mad at obama because he will not let the states legalize pot. In other words, if obama lets it be legal Penn is just fine with him. So, that would mean that obama is not liberal ENOUGH for him … great.

      I did drugs … I did alot of them … I KNOW how it works …. anybody that wants to legalize pot is a friken (forgive my language) stupid, moronic, idiot.

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:31pm

      I agree 4truth. People steal, rob and kill for drugs now.
      If they were legal they would still steal, rob and kill for the money to buy legal drugs.

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    • rookorami
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 7:31pm

      RayBlue. If they already do it and we waste a ton of tax dollars on just keeping a small portion of drugs off the streets. Why not legalize and tax. We then make money from the drugs that are going to come in anyway. And we can still arrest people for stealing, robbing, and/or killing just like we do now. And we dont need to legalize it all, but in the scope of things pot is no worse than alcohol. Legalize regulate and tax it. I have never seen violent pot head.

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    • Jeetman
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 8:17pm

      WOW!! I cannot believe the amount of pot advocates that have posted here. Just because in your mind (more than likely due to personal experience) smoking marijuana doesn’t hurt you, I know from personal experience that it can. After my experimentation with pot, I suffered severe panic attacks that started right after getting completely wasted on pot (I was 16) until I was about 35.

      4truth2all I agree with you. If people want to legalize pot, they are idiots.

      I don’t quite understand libertarianism or libertarians. My brother is a libertarian. He told me that all drugs should be legal. I said that’s crazy. Yeah, you may want to be free to do stupid things but what kind of parent would you be?

      So libertarians, how far do your “freedoms” go?

      Legalize all drugs (great for the kids. Who the f–ck does the government think they are telling me I can‘t get so doped up that I’m a detriment to my children???

      Damnit!!! I want to drive as fast as I want. I want to drive 80 on the streets of libertarian residential areas. They should have no problem with that. Heck with the rules that the government puts on us to restrict us!!

      Who is the government to tell me I can’t have a meth house and sell MY drugs in libertarian residential areas?

      Why is prostitution against the law???? I want to hire hookers to hang out on libertarian’s streets. I mean it is a free country right?

      This is how dumb you libertarians sound. Sorry but there are laws that are needed to ke

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    • Doctor Nordo
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 11:07pm

      RAYBLUE

      People steal, rob, and kill for the new Nike Air Jordans also. Does that mean that need to make shoes illegal? Don’t be dim. Also, I would challenge you to provide a single example of someone killing for a weed fix. It doesn’t happen. People might kill over weed, but it would be for business, not for use. Decriminalize marijuana and that no longer happens.

      Besides, if weed were to become legal the price would plummet. Criminalizing the substance artificially drives down supply which in turn drives up price. Criminalizing it also forces people to buy expensive indoor growing and hydroponics equipment instead of growing it in one’s own garden or in a 1,000 acre field. Things are ALWAYS more expensive on the black market.

      It’s not called weed for nothing. It grows like crazy. A single seed can sprout and grow to 5 feet in height over about 2 months. It would NOT be expensive to produce, it would be FAR cheaper to sell, and weed-related crime would all but disappear.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 11:10pm

      Yo Rook:

      You really don‘t want me to tell you the truth of how I feel about you’re post, because it would not get posted.(They can steal from and kill you’re family. but don’t worry they might get arrested for it). It’s not the pot dumbell, it’s the direction that it leads one in. I don’t know how many people I KNEW that are dead for one reason or another ………and it ALL started with JUST SMOKING A LITTLE POT , stoogebreath. But hey, who cares about the ruined lives and those that love them … we can get a little tax money out of it so you can live better …

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    • rookorami
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 11:25pm

      4truth

      I said it already happening legalizing it will not make it anymore common than it already is. It could even possible reduce some of the issues. And for some yes it has led them down the wrong path, but so has alcohol. I am very sorry for those you know that were led down the wrong path, that is a shame and I really mean that. I myself know a couple but I don’t blame the pot. I can see you are passionate on the subject which is understandable but lets not result to insults.

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    • deeberj
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 1:32pm

      4truth and rayblue
      I disagree with you. Using drugs harms a person, like eating too much does, but it should not be a crime. It only hurst the user. Making using drugs illegal to use is not stopping drug use, it doesn’t stop an addict from stealing, hurting, killing – whatever it takes to get the next fix. Illegal or legal, that part of drug use and addiction would remain the same.

      However, when illegal we have people in jail merely for having drugs on them. From something as innocuous (no worse than alcohol) as pot to something as dangerous as heroin, they go to jail for possession. So a pot smoking kid is in jail with rapists, theives and murderers. This makes no sense and our jails are overcrowded, inhumane and dangerous. Why take a person whose only crime was using a drug and put them in such an awful place.

      AND illegal drugs have entire industries making money off of them. From clinics to rehabs, gov’t funds go towards them. If having drugs were no longer illegal, taxes could be less.

      AND, if drugs were made no longer illegal, people would still go to jail if they commit a crime to obtain their drugs, like theft. Those laws would still remain so hurting others for your drug use would have consequences.

      AND, if drugs were made no longer illegal, the gov’t should also stop enabling drug users by paying for rehabs, clinics, transportation to them, needle programs, etc. This would save a lot of tax money. Drug users would be free to find a way to support

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    • deeberj
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 1:35pm

      Everyone likes to say pot is a gateway drug. Actually cigarettes or alcohol are. Every drug user I have EVER known (from casual weekend pot smoking to hard core herion addict) started with smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol. So lets make them illegal.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on May 22, 2012 at 9:28pm

      “ Everyone likes to say smoking pot is a gateway drug” …. THAT”S BECAUSE IT IS ….
      and ANYBODY THAT SAY“S OTHERWISE DOESN”T KNOW WHAT THE F THEIR TALKIN ABOUT.
      (excuse my language) …

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  • CatB
    Posted on May 21, 2012 at 3:42pm

    States rights ??? Under Obama … what rights? His right to sue a state if they are enforcing Federal laws? Obama don’t care about no rights!

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