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Perry Gets Pounded Day After Debate

Consensus is hard to find in Washington, D.C. these days, but a strong consensus has been found after the GOP debate in Orlando Thursday: TX Gov. Rick Perry struggled.

Talking Points Memo (TPM) has pulled together a video of conservatives pounding Perry in the aftermath of the debate. Critiques range from his delivery, to his demeanor, to his debate preparation. Many seem to think that Perry — who has been the frontrunner in the young presidential race — took a massive hit:

TPM has also aggregated some of the criticisms:

Bill Kristol published an editorial at the Weekly Standard, stating the magazine’s official reaction to the debate: “Yikes.” Kristol negatively reviewed nearly all the candidates — pining for Chris Christie to save the GOP by entering the race. As for Perry’s performance, Kristol writes: “But no front-runner in a presidential field has ever, we imagine, had as weak a showing as Rick Perry. It was close to a disqualifying two hours for him.”

Rich Lowry wrote on Fox News: “A few weeks ago, the question was how far and fast he would ascend; now, after his third debate, it’s how much he’ll drop.” he also wrote on National Review: “I really thought Perry would get better, but he hasn’t.”

RedState’s Erick Erickson wrote late Thursday night: “Rick Perry was a train wreck in this debate. He flubbed his response on Romney flip-flopping. He got the first question tonight and stumbled. Good grief.”

Michelle Malkin is especially shocked:

The cringe-worthiest moment, by a hair, was when Perry botched what should have been his most potent attack on Mitt Romney’s chronic flip-flopping. As I noted on Twitter when it happened, any random high schooler at the CPAC conference in Washington could have done better than this.

If this is how Perry’s going to take Obama on in debates, we’re in trouble. Someone inject him with some Red Bull and a dash of Herman Cain’s personality.Dana Perino, the former Bush White House press secretary and current Fox News commentator, had this to say:

This was like a 3rd date with Perry – where you decide if you’ll go on a 4th…would you?

And Ann Coulter, in a rare moment of genuine wit and brevity, summed it up: “Governor Perry losing debate with his own tongue.”

Pete Wehner piled on:

I hope Governor Rick Perry enjoyed his six-week run as the front runner of the GOP field, because it’s now over.

Perry has had three debates. His first was mediocre. His second debate performance was weaker than his first, and last night’s debate was worse than either of the first two. Whatever strengths the Texas governor has, debating is not one of them, for the reasons covered by my colleagues. He comes across as unprepared, sometimes, unsteady, and at times his answers border on being incoherent.

So did Jonathan Tobin:

Rick Perry entered tonight’s Republican presidential debate with an opportunity to reverse the image of him as a poor speaker that had slowed the momentum of his campaign. Instead, he reinforced it. Perry may have started out strong, but once again, his energy and focus seemed to leave him in the second hour of the debate. He clearly flubbed a chance to nail Romney on health care as well as his other changes of position.

The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin wondered if Perry’s “collapse” means conservatives will finally see Chris Christie enter the race.

Ouch. This all doesn’t look good for Perry. How do you think he did? Weigh in below.

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  • TADTAD
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:37pm

    Ay Dios Mio, amigos. Cain is my guy, but there’s no way. Americans are too fat, dumb and lazy to be worthy of that cat. My father always told me to never underestimate the stupidity of the American people, and dad was always right. We get the government we deserve.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:45pm

      Your Dad sounds like a very smart Cat!

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:54pm

      Cain is my guy, too. Try to get the word out. The Romney/Perry show last night was terrible. The MSM, as well as Fox are trying to push one of these two stiffs on us. They were like a couple of mannequins last night. Fake, plastic smiles.

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    • Bluegill
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:55pm

      Perry was like the Pawlenty in his last debate. Looked too concerned about attacking Romney rather than laying out a plan. Cain all the way!

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:00pm

      I‘m a reluctant Paul supporter but I guess it doesn’t much matter. One of the two RINOs will win the primary and I will vote for him…

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    • netmail
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:06pm

      ‘Father knows Best’…..but we might be “worthy”…maybe. (of Cain) Things are changing fast.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:09pm

      So after complaining about how the “liberal” mainstream media paints a picture of Americans as stupid lazy passive people who don’t know enough to vote for their own interests, conservatives use the EXACT SAME PREMISE as the reasoning why their favorite conservative candidate won’t get elected. Hypocrisy much? I thought this was the EXACT THING that Glenn Beck get’s off on making fun of Obama and crew for–implying that Americans are stupid fat lazy incompetent idiots. But now you’re explicitly SAYING that, and getting SUPPORT for it, on GLENN BECK’S very blog. The irony is just too great to bear.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:21pm

      Perry? Maybe La Raza can give him some pointers (Bush II) ……..I want Cain

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    • RabidPatriot
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:31pm

      The Republicans are making the same mistake the Democrats made with John Kerry. George Bush should have been easily defeated but they put some dopey, unelectable, party hack up against him and they lost. I’m sure among Democrats, Kerry was a wonderful choice but to the rest of America he was a faux military hero, flip-flopper and unremarkable career politician. The current group of Republican candidates may not be as offensive but just as unremarkable. At this rate, we will wake up the day after the election and wonder how Obama was just given four more years to ruin the country.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:31pm

      Bush II lost all public support when he accused those who disagreed with him “racist”. Now Perry calls disagree’ers “heartless”. Perry now bites the dust but any one of them is better than “O’Bummer”.

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    • king1
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:44pm

      I like cain too he is one cool cool kitty but I will vote in the end for anybody but OLDBUMA URKLE THE SHADOW MAN what ever you want call the IDIOT that is occupying the WH

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:47pm

      @ TROLLTRAINER
      You weren’t a Paul supporter in the first place. The fact that you would vote party over principle, just shows what a simpleton you are.

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    • blue_sky
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:03pm

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      IT IS TIME TO RESTORE AMERICA

      ( warning: potent stuff of Liberty )
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzXKXilSSxY

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:12pm

      Glenn should have listened. Perry, Romney, Huntsman………..useless idiots. There are 3 people I would consider.

      1. Herman Cain
      2. Ron Paul
      3. Michelle Bachmann

      All the others are nothing more than, more of the same bending to the left and destruction of the United States.

      Only 2 of the names really amount to a steadfast determination for forcing this Country back on the Republics right track, and they are Cain and Paul. Michelle doesn’t do her homework and trips all over herself. Her heart might be right, but her head is not and it shows through lack of standing on principles founded on facts.

      Ron Paul best exemplifies my sentiments politically, but Herman Cain brings the best business mind to the table along with right values.

      I really have no idea what Beck saw in Perry that was so intriguing. Just a little research shows he deficient of right thinking ideals and principles. He’s led by emotions, not facts and truth. That makes him no better than Obama.

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    • JMorcan
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:13pm

      He should also have said that you get the economy you deserve. What‘s happening now is payback for all the Chinese junk you’ve been buying.

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    • Rampart
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:18pm

      Perry lost me last night…Cain, Gingrich and Santorum are the only true conservatives I see on that stage and I don’t think the media will allow them to win the Primary, much less the final election…Marco…?

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    • CatB
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:18pm

      I also like Cain .. I just heard Perry on Hannity and HE STILL DOESN’T get it ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL! Got dumb as a stump .. we don’t need another President giveaway!

      TEA!

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    • BluifoxEd
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:47pm

      Oh Saraaaaaaaa!

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    • vichoff
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:52pm

      It’s gotta be CAIN in the current field. Marco…wish he would. But it’s gotta be Cain right now. Thought it would be Perry and man he screwed the pooch last night.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:09pm

      Reagan started out as a democrat, he also started out pro abortion. People learn, and some change.

      I believe it was Churchill that saide people who are not liberal in their 20s have no heart. People who are not conservative by their 40s have no brain.

      Perry is coming along just fine. he will be the one to beat Obama
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    • johnannegalt
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:29pm

      Perry deserves it. His true colors in regards to illegal immigrants finally showed.. http://markamerica.com/2011/09/22/romeny-bickers-with-perry-stumbled-cain-gingrich-shined/

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    • bolsen00
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:31pm

      Anonymous–Seriously??? Cain isn’t even electable! He’s never even been elected to anything! There’s no record to question him on! Obama had little record to elect him on and look at the mess! Cain is running for the wrong office…he needs to start with something local and then run for something in his state. He doesn’t understand how to put together legislation, how to work with congressional law makers, a state legislature, hasn’t struggled to balance the budget constraints of a city or state while being criticized by constituents, hasn’t had to deal with the National Guard or sending troops into harms way while dealing with handling a natural disaster! NO EXPERIENCE is a real problem! It’s great to have some private sector experience, but it takes a mix! Cain doesn’t have it! He’s in the wrong place!

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:34pm

      TadTad, I didn’t know Bill Maher had any kids.

      Also, your dad is right.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:50pm

      Perry supports the TTC (Trans-Texas Corrider). That’s the highway from hell (Mexico) to as far north as Oklahoma. His in-state tuition for illegals is sickening.

      This guy not an American Patriot, and here are some other initiatives he has supported:

      NAFTA- that is the American job-robbing agreement with Mexico. This gem is modeled after the European Common Market. That led to the now so-sucessful European Union, and makes the case that there is substance to the argument that a North American Union is planned. Perry even said, in a 2002 speech, how he was the first state official to support NAFTA. Back to the TTC for a second…if you strengthen trade with Mexico, would you not have a plausible argument for the TTC?

      Evan as late as 2009 (and after the TTC was said to be dead), Perry said “The key is that we have to go forward and build the infrastructure.”
      Cintra, from Spain, wanted to build the roads, in return for toll revenue. Did I mention that eminent domain would take possibly thousands of acres of private property? Oh, that siezed private property would go to……you guessed it, Cintra!

      Still think Perry is your man?

      In 2008- Perry supported first Rudy Giuliani (who is pro-abortion/pro gay-marriage) before endorsing McCain. Neither candidate could be considered a true Conservative. Remember, now, that Perry was first a Dem.

      Perry likes PPP (Public Private Partnerships). Look that up sometime.
      Have a nice night.

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    • mcsassy96
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:31pm

      Amen!

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    • Pappypatriot
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:09pm

      Mitt Romney showed how prepared, qualified, sincere and competent he is to be our President. His answers were sharp, thoughtful, clear, concise and he answered the questions. He also showed that he has great intelligence, tremendous wit and has a very solid grasp on the issues. None of the others came close to being as specific and knowledgeable or clear headed as Mitt. He is clearly in a league of his own.

      Cain’s 9-9-9 plan is very poorly thought out and if implemented it will not be many years that it will have evolved into 18-18-18. It may work fine when first implemented and while I think he is sincere in his intentions one day he will roll over in his grave to see what it would morph into given that we have politicians not angels running our government. Maybe in a perfect world it could work but anyone who thinks for a minute that those percentages will not go up are totally naive.

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    • jzs
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 2:27am

      TADTAD, you’re avatar must be very appealing to to all the posters here who are opposed to DADT. You’re a girl right?

      Looks like it’s Romney vs. Obama at this point. That fact gives me faith in Democracy because at least Romney has intelligence. Unfortunately for him, he’s also a Mormon. I don‘t care about a person’s religion myself, although Mormonism sounds a bit strange to me after reading “Under the Banner of God,” still that’s okay with me. I just don’t think Christians will vote for a Mormon, no matter how bad the economy is.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 4:21am

      jzs

      I’m no supporter of Romney but I just gotta comment on this clown trolls post.

      That‘s right JZS they wont vote for a Mormon but they will vote for someone who’s

      Father was a communist

      Mother was a communist

      Child hood mentor was a communist

      18 yrs in a Church which taught Communist based Black Liberation Theology

      Sought out Communists in college

      Befriended a domestic terrorist who murdered police officers

      Appointed communists in his inner circle

      Promotes socialist tenets in his presidency

      Obama has been exposed. A monkey with cymbals can beat him!

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    • pinchanze
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 10:18am

      Americans are fat,dumb and lazy? With that said, you must not be an American,which means anything you have to say about America does not matter. If you are an American, then you are also fat,dumb and lazy! LOL!!!!

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    • FreeMan5771
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 12:42pm

      OK! Time to say it! Rick Perry is controlled opposition who came into this race as a distraction. The Global Elite want Romney…badly! He already rolled out his version of Obamacare in Massachusettes. See how the two are similar? Same ideas. One party, controlled by NWO Elitists.

      Rick Perry is in the race for two reasons. One, Michelle Bachman’s blunders were putting Ron Paul into the number 2 position for the GOP nomination. Secondly, polls show Ron Paul running better against Obama than any other GOP candidate, it’s true. This panicked the Global Elite because Ron Paul will set back their agenda 50 yrs if elected. They think they can see the end game fulfilled in this lifetime, a one world government utopia…for them!

      The first debate was nothing more than a scripted bunch of BS. Perry shot up in the polls and this took attention off of Paul, Cain, and the others. Now that most mindless Sheeple fell for it, time to diminish Perry so the cherry picked winner of next year’s election–Mitt Romney–can be President.

      I’m registered Independent but will change soon to Republican so I can vote FOR either Ron Paul or Herman Cain. I like Cain, but Paul is most hated by the Global Elite which makes me like him a little better.

      Wake the hell up! The IMF is already priming us to accept further standard of living reductions. PLEASE lets nominate either Ron Paul or Herman Cain.

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    • Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 12:58pm

      rangerp

      You couldn’t be more wrong. There is a huge difference between Perry and Reagan’s conversions…

      Look what the both did when they were actually in office.

      In no way, do Perry‘s executive actions resemble anything of a conservative nature like Reagan’s did. Crack open some history books! Perry is pure RINO, but then again like he says maybe “Idon’t have a heart.” Please!

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    • BecksTheMan
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 5:10pm

      @FREEMAN5771,

      Your argument falls flat and makes you look totally foolish. Ron Paul is a total moron. Anyone who thinks we can just put our faces in the sand and ignore Iran is absolutely crazy. Ron Paul is totally unelectable. His supporters are almost entirely made up of young people and druggies and he will be killed by Obama in a general but his nomination will not happen because in the real world which you choose to fantasize does not exist, the GOP electorate would never be foolish enough to nominate Paul. Get over it already.

      BTW Mitt Romney a hand picked establishment candidate! really! How do you explain all of the anyone but Mitt movement then? The truth is the shadow government and insiders do not at all feel comfortable with Mitt Romney. Mitt has too high of principles and cannot be bought. He took exactly $1.00 per year salary for a total of $4.00 for his entire political career. Gave his entire salary as President of the Olympic committee to charity. Gave all of the proceeds of all of his books to charity. He cannot be bought, if you knew anything about him being a faithful member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints you would know that the Book of Mormon comes out very very strongly against secret groups like the CFR, Bilderbergers and shadow government groups and fraternities. You may be right about Rick Perry but are way wrong about Mitt Romney or your thinking for one minute that Ron Paul has a snowballs chance in hell of winning.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 6:43pm

      I Apologize to Rick Perry for dissing him on grounds of letting illegals have in-state Tuition. My son
      sat me straight that these people allowed in-state Tuition have to agree to become Citizens of the USA.

      OK, this does make a difference. We need educated people immigrating to America and stop so many manual laborers from using all our resources. We have enough unskilled people who need these type jobs, and why give them away to illegals? It’s time to put our own people to work.

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  • dealer@678
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:36pm

    Perry shot himself in the foot with his immigration statement. I also cant stand watching him stick his chest out like hes a king or something. Im for Ron Paul

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:55pm

      I really like Ron Paul but his ideas on foreign policy scare me. Have you looked at Gary Johnson’s record as governor of NM or his stance on the various issues?

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    • Shasta
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:58pm

      I wanted Perry to be my guy. He isn’t. But no way am I voting for Ron Paul.

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:45pm

      You either vote for the ONLY TRUE conservative in the race, or you vote for more of the same phony, crony capitalist,flip flopping, stick your finger out to see which way the wind blows politicians.

      Ron Paul is the only intellectual on that stage.
      Name ONE CANDIDATE that has been invited on the financial channels to discuss this failing economy, more than Ron Paul. You can’t.

      NO ONE is more qualified from an economical or Constitutional standpoint to defeat Ohmamma next year. NO ONE.

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    • king1
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:46pm

      Gary johnson was great gov and is‘nt afraid to veto bill that don’t make sense infact he veto plenty of republican bills cause they were 1 rino bills and 2 they just didnt make sense

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:31pm

      @ DrFrost
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:55pm

      I really like Ron Paul but his ideas on foreign policy scare me. Have you looked at Gary Johnson’s record as governor of NM or his stance on the various issues?
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      Pauls views on foreign policy in my opinion are rock solid according to founding intent. He’s not an isolationist, he’s a non interventionalist, and that’s the right ideal. We should never be the worlds police force. Our Military was born to preserve our sovereignty and protect our essential interests. The Military takes the same oath of office relating to defending and upholding the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic. Who gives 2 shakes of a lambs tail what Iran does. If they attack us, we annihilate them with the full might of our Military’s arsenal.

      Anyway, this is the Founding ideals that should never have been abridged by megalomaniancs like Wilson, FDR, Truman and Kennedy/Johnson, the Bush’s HW and W.

      “If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest.”

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    • blue_sky
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:43pm

      I have been watching neo-cons readers of the Blaze for long. They often beat themselves in the chest claiming to be true conservatives and mocking progressives. Last few months seeing them salivating with Perry, Rubio, Romney, Cain etc was enough to convince me that those neo-cons are both empty and RINOs as their so-called “conservative” candidates.

      Now Perry and Romney are deflating themselves.

      And old neo-cons still cannot accept the true conservative man and the man of constitution – Ron Paul. Why? Because inside they are no conservative at all. Their ignorance about economics, politics and constitution is fine (we are all brainwashed and learning, no high white horse here), but their resistance to learn and desire to fickle from one RINO to another answers the question – why America in this poor state of retrogression.

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    • Delete the Elite
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:45pm

      @KING1, LOL. You silly cheerleaders crack me up. If Gary Johnson is as sincere as he sounds, I am sure Ron Paul will look him up for a cabinet member. The fact that you are trying to take the spot light off of Ron Paul, shows how desperate you are; “Forget RP, look at this guy! Isn’t he neat?!”. Save it. Ron Paul will be Republican primary (unless they destroy the evidence of his polls, like fox news tried to do today).
      Proof that he did not only win, but he wiped the floor with Romney: http://w w w .infowars.com/fox-news-poll-ron-paul-wins-orlando-debate/
      You will probably follow up with “The Paul supporters voted multiple times!”, don’t do that, It will only make you look foolish SINCE you can only vote once.

      Don’t want Ron Paul as Republican primary? To bad, its you neocons turn to switch 3rd party.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:27pm

      I hate to say “I told you so” about Slick Ric. Ric was Fox’s man and for all the Morons who think Fox is fair and balanced now see that they were pushing an open border, big government phony. Perry is done, finished, over johhnny, see ya later, yesterday’s news. I still support Ron Paul and then Romney.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:04pm

      I understand the sentiment for Cain, and think it may be the way to get Blacks to part ways with the Dems.
      I didn’t look at the debate, and have to say that with having my 92 y/o mom here, and planning an addition for her, that I don’t know his stance on illegals.
      However, if we don’t elect a true, proven Constritutional Conservative, that we will not be able to undo the damage from several decadent decades of the politically correct socialism being fostered upon Americans.
      Ron Paul would be the man to uphold the Constitution. His knowledge is second to none about that, and….not understanding the Constitution and why it was crafted the way it was has led to our problems.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:35pm

      I agree with Blue_Sky 100% on this. People say they‘re Conservatives but generally don’t understand what it means because they won’t take the time to understand. The Republican Party over the last 20 or 30 years has really been no better that any of the left leaning groups, except maybe the commu, I mean progressives. It’s just a little different poison. The left wants a quick death, the right wants death in doses.

      Screw them all, I want the Politician who best exemplifies Founding intent and wants to restore this Nation to same power that gave rise to America being the greatest Nation ever on the face of the earth. We’re not going to get that with anything on the left because they are all wasted in socialism and outright communism. We’re not going to get it with old right wingers like Boehner, McCain, Graham and a bunch of other “republicans”. To save the Country it’s going to take a hard right turn back to the Constitution. It’s going to be painful for entitlement babies, but it’s high time to relearn personal responsibility, principled life, and the doctrine of the Nations Founding.

      I wonder if Blue_Sky agree’s that the 17th Amendment needs to be vetoed?

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 4:25am

      Jefferson
      Ron Paul is the only intellectual on that stage.
      Are you kidding me?

      “After 9/11, (people said) ‘Oh yeah, it’s those very bad people who hate us,’ but 15 of (the hijackers) came from Saudi Arabia,” said Paul. “One of the reasons they attacked us, is we propped up this Sharia government and the fundamentalists hated us for it.”
      Paul is totally clueless. They attacked us because we were propping up a “Sharia government” and “the fundamentalists hated us for it”? Since when do Islamic “fundamentalists” disapprove of Sharia governments? They attacked us, according to Osama bin Laden, because, among other reasons, we were in his view “prevent[ing] our people from establishing the Islamic Shariah,” not propping up a Sharia state.

      Paul cited a University of Chicago professor, Robert Pape, whose research argues that most of the suicide terrorism in the past 30 years was caused by military occupation. Pape’s research, funded by the Defense Department, shows that suicide bombings in Afghanistan went up one third after the Obama administration surged 30,000 troops into the country.
      Not only is Pape wrong; he’s on the dole of Hamas-linked CAIR.

      Code Pink activist Liz Hurican told Fox News: “The Ron Paul people are closer and closer to our talking points with each election.”
      Ron Paul Spokeswoman Rachel Mills says “Code Pink is actually leaning more in the direction of Ron Paul’s beliefs and politics”, saying the Congressman “is

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 9:18am

      I resent Perry saying I don”t have a heart. I’m a native Texan and I not only resent Illigals getting instate tuition I resent his argument that we hace educated them in our schools. The education in our schools was paid for with my property taxes. Why should I continue to pay to educate someone who is illegal (adj. Not legal, not allowed by law, against the law).
      Wake up Ricky I think you just stepped on your ****.

      OMG – Psalm 109:8

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 9:28am

      I’d like to hear more from Gary Johnson. What little I have heard I like (even if he did steal a joke from Russ). If the moderators would give the other candfidates a chance and quit pushing Romney and Perry at us as the only alternatives.

      OMG – Psalm 109:8

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    • n8isgrate
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 2:47pm

      @delete the elite
      Mr Alex Jones follower. Ron Paul is very smart I like him alot but seriously he has won every debate on an online poll since 2008 but never won or was on top of a real poll that samples real people who cant vote more then 50 times. this isnt american idol. Ron Paul would be great if he switched his foreign policy view to protect israel from iran and the rest of the middle east. He speaks for 2 minutes or 5 minutes in a debate and wins the debate thats a joke he could speak not one sentence and all the ron paul people will vote for him on an online poll. very loyal following which is good but until he actually pulls ahead in a real poll like new hamshire or iowa or florida or just in general i will never take seriously him showing he won in an online vote where you can vote as many times as you want if you know how.

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    • n8isgrate
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 3:06pm

      @delete the elite
      and if you really dont think you can vote more than once you dont know how to use a computer very well anyways besides even if they all did vote once its the same people every time very loyal which is good but they seem to be the only ones who care to point out online because in reality he doesnt show in the top of the polls in any of the state contests for the primary or in general so you explain that to me. I honestly believe all polls including the state and general polls can be rigged as well but they are not nearly as bad as online american idol type polls.

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:35pm

    One RINO down. One to go.

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    • Arkansawyer
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:58pm

      Absolutely!

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    • Shasta
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:59pm

      Sheesh! They are either RINOs or unelectable. We are in trouble.

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    • CatB
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:21pm

      Don’t fall for that “unelectable” cr*p again .. that is how we got McCain as a candidate .. that worked out well didn’t it? At this point I would think anyone could throw the Dictator and Chief we have now (Obama) Out! Especially a Strong Conservative .. Don’t fall for the Progressive rhetoric!

      TEA!

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:00pm

      Where do these RINOs come from? Seriously, were they asleep for the past 2 years and miss all the Tea Party news, the town hall meetings, etc.?

      Conservatives seem more galvanized and focused than ever – so where are all our guys at?

      Get rid of these RINO clowns. Send them over to another party, they can have them. Give us people who know history, know the Constitution, and adhere to fiscal conservatism.

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  • netmail
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:34pm

    Watching Perry is like watching a stiffer version of George W Bush and I’ve already seen that B grade movie. I guess I still like Newt (“the smartest man in the room”), baggage and all. At least when he talks, I like to listen.

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:58pm

      I have to agree. Newt is in my top three and almost always has the most interesting replies. I’m interested in seeing his new contract with America.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:08pm

      I disagree Bush looked totally relaxed and not afraid to be who he was…PERRY appears to be acting (and very badly)like a conservative/moderate. His immigration policies sunk his chances. Three’s no way in he77 he gets the nomination…unless they just want 4 more years of Obama.

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    • trueblueday
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:00pm

      From what I have gathered, Newt’s a globalist. Plus, I also tend to believe that if he were POTUS he would not listen to opinions made by his cabinet on any matters whatsoever, and his decision would always be final. That’s just my opinion.

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    • netmail
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:01pm

      Trueblueday…..I don’t know enough about the “globalist” part, but your observation about Newt “not listening to his cabinet” just might be on the mark. When Newt gets defensive there is self rightous air about him that is very noticeable to me. How much more if he becomes POTUS?? All his advisers didn’t bale for nothing either. The longer the trip, the heavier the baggage gets. I look forward to his new contract with us tho.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:31pm

      Netmail, Gingrich is a CFR man. Beck has warned against the Council for Foreign Relations. Look them up. Started under Wilson!! You don’t want Newt. Romney is also a CFR man. Our country will never be restored should the CFR continue to control it.

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    • bolsen00
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:40pm

      i seeNewt nixed his own future in politics when he had affairs with staffers and messed around behind his wife’s back while he was speaker of the house. It was all going on the same time bill Clinton was having an affair with Monica Lewinsky! Gingrich and Clinton were on oppositen sides politically but good pals privately who openly talked about their affairs with each other! During Clinton’s scandal, publicly Gingrich criticized Clinton for the affair. Clinton got tired of it and called Gingrich to the White house, told him to stop criticizing his affair with Monica or he was going to go public about Gingrich’s affairs. Gingrich left his wife and married Callista, one of the women he was having an affair with. It’s all become public knowledge now, and The American people can’t trust a man who will lie and do that to his own wife…No more Clinton scandals! No more newt Gingrich scandals! He’s hoping people have forgotten, but none of it was that long ago. Gingrich has good ideas and is sharp politically, but he ruined his own career and reputation in Washington! Newt can consult and encourage discussion, but that’s it! He can’t control himself or be trusted! Look what happened with governor and Jenny Sanford a couple of years ago…wanted to see his mistress so badly he disappeared from the state, lied to his wife and everyone about where he was and flew to South America to secretly see his mistress. Then he got caught! It’s a matter of national securi

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  • wewantchillywilly
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:34pm

    look out people! Herman Cain is going to win this!! He’s my favorite now.

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    • netmail
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:52pm

      Yeah.. I trust Herman Cain to surround himself with the best people. (He doesn’t need to be cloned with Newt but Newt could be a valuable/trusted advisor nonetheless)

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:55pm

      Herman Cain is the man! He’s got my vote. Get out the word! Cain 2012.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:04pm

      That would make me happy but I‘m not sure the establishment Republicans and the media won’t be able to hold him back.

      ABO 2012!!

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    • trueblueday
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:56pm

      I don’t understand why the media makes Cain out to be irrelevant. This guy has been great from the start. Perry and Romney are both just a lot of hot air. I would love to see Cain and Obama have a debate. That would be monumental.

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    • XavierD
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:19pm

      I hope Cain is the winner, I do not like Perry or Romney. I figure that Paul or Johnson won’t win the nomination. I really do not think I could vote for either Perry or Romney, it is like a little version of Obama. I want real change for him. :)

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    • Delete the Elite
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:51pm

      Cain is holding himself back. The internet is way to large to not do alittle bit of research on the Federal Reserve. I would say that with the publics distrust of the Fed, Cain has a snowballs chance in hell.
      http://w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhen9QiYai8

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:32pm

      All I can say is ANYBODY BUT PERRY!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • n8isgrate
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 3:16pm

      I really liked heman cain as well he did very well I moved him up on my list and perry down and mitt is also up on my list.
      Herman Cain
      Mitt Romney
      Rick Santorum
      Rick Perry
      Michelle Bauchmen
      Newt
      No to Ron Paul he sounds like a democrat when it comes to foreign policy I would vote for half of ron paul though.

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  • JMorcan
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:34pm

    The more you know about Rick Perry, the less you’ll want him as a candidate. He’s an arrogant egotist who has remained governor of Texas through sheer luck of the economic draw.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:44pm

      Perry was the media’s pick, just like BO. Now we need American’s pick, someone who will follow the Constitution – Ron Paul.
      He may be unpolished, but we do not want another empty suit, CFR member, Big Gov, globalist running our country into the ground.
      Ron Paul is the only person who will withdraw the US of A from the UN and WTO.
      Ron Paul wrote HJ 46, a Constitutional Amendment strengthening the 14th Amendmendment which specifically denies US citizenship to individuals born in the United States to parents who are neither United States citizens nor persons who owe permanent allegiance to the United States. This would fix the illegal alien problem.
      Paul also follows the Austrian school of economics ideology – the exact opposite of Keyenesianism that has brought our country down with its bailouts, ‘stimulus’ and QE’s.
      I’m praying that Americans wake up, stop going for looks and telepromptor reading skills, sees Ron Paul has our Founder’s heart beating within and votes for America this time.
      A vote for Ron Paul IS a vote for Ameria.

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  • eternalhostility
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:31pm

    You know what is funny about Perry is that he is better than Romney but he doesn’t get the issues. He talks a decent game (out of the two) but doesn’t really get what he is saying. For example – the instate tuition breaks for illegals is not consistent with small government and less spending. The forced vaccines are not consistent with small gov – yet Perry truly in his heart believes in these things so he tries to support them. He doesn’t realize he is a walking contradiction.

    Either way Ron Paul is clearly and firmly in second and will be in first soon enough.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:23pm

      Where can I buy my tin foil hat?

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:22pm

      I’d much rather have Rand as the candidate than his father. Dr. Paul is right on a lot of things, but he just doesn’t do it for me.

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  • mml35
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:31pm

    perry took the steps needed to keep these kids from turning into thugs, while waiting for the fed gov to get off theit butts and do their jobs, some of you are buying right into the establishments arguement. A wall?…..seriously sounds good but will do zero but cost a ton of money we don‘t have and still won’t keep the illegals out, ever heard of a ladder or a tunnel?……the only way to stop it is to enforce existing laws on the books at the federal level and they will stop coming. Don’t be sheep be sheep dogs and think big picture. Perry has been the only candidate to speak the truth about climate change and social security…..did not hear a peep about that till him, don’t fall for karl roves little political stunts see things for what they are my friends.

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  • patbarker
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:28pm

    Perry isn’t dead, though he didn’t do well last night. a lot of know it alls reacting out of their emotions.

    Perry will be the GOP nominee…United States isn’t ready to elect a MORMON FOR PREZ!!! TALK ABOUT A WACKY, CULTIC RELIGIOUS SECT!!

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:33pm

      Speak for your self, religious bigotry is so plllaaaayyyed….

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    • GayDem4Beck
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:35pm

      Perry is a chump… a Liberal Democrat before he was a Republican. He‘s not protecting the border like AZ is and he’s giving incentives for other illegals to cross the border in the form of cheap and easy education.

      Herman Cain for POTUS, I think he’s gaining ground

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    • patbarker
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:42pm

      here’s a start for you…http://mmoutreachinc.com/mormons/facts.html

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    • Baikonur
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:16pm

      I think as far as most people are concerned, it is the competency and the character of the candidate, not his personal religious beliefs, that matter.

      I find all overly religious people to be cooky. The cookiness is admirable when it is a private motivation, but gets very tired when they try to impose their beliefs on me. Mormons are not any weirder than any other American Christians. Actually, I find their nationalistic invented religion a fresh Americana type phemonenon, a cool folkloric thing.

      Scary stories to tell in the Dark, as Alvin Shwartz may have put it.

      Plus, Mitt is not only the smartest and most moderate candidate, he is also the best looking, and those usually have a better chance.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:17pm

      PatBarker, I don’t care what flavor of Christianity Romney believes in, there are so many. As long as they believe that Christ is the Lord and the only way to everlasting life, the rituals and traditions don’t bother me too much. Travel the world and you will see some really crazy stuff being carried out by Christians, it doesn’t discount or question their faith, nor should you. Jesus the original Christian actually practiced Jewish rituals (gasp)!

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  • Baikonur
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:27pm

    Perry showed that he has a human component, as has Romney in the past. They are not part of the ‘V’ invasion. They still care about humans. This will make them enemies to the tea party faithfull. RINOs, right?

    What is wrong with Perry saying that children of illegal immigrants who have lived in Texas most of their educational lives should qualify for ‘in state’ tuition rates? They are residents of the state in the truest sense of the word–they reside there, and have for a long time.

    Having said that, I currently live in a Western European country where showing my legal permit to reside and work there, my passport, my proof of health insurance, my work contract, last payment slip, annual tax statement, report from the central police department, etc. is standard for all interactions with banks, schools, doctors, dentists, landlords, police officers, customs officials, etc.

    So yes, some control is absolutely necessary. Otherwise, the world will become Chaos.

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    • krjones
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 11:27pm

      What is wrong is that they are illegal! Meaning they are breaking the law. The biggest problem with Perry’s response was the “you don’t have a heart” comment. This is typical liberal response about feelings. I think it is heartless of liberals to keep these people in a constant state of poverty just to garner a vote.

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  • hazmat2010
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:24pm

    that was posted in reply to NOCOMMENT. West should be someone’s VP! Hopefully we can get a good, conservative,16 year run!

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  • joe1234
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:24pm

    we really need CHARLES MARTEL….

    but he isn’t around…and no one is close to him or reagan…we’re in a GREAT deal of trouble….

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  • cemerius
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:23pm

    Romney or Perry? I will STILL go with Perry even though I am totally AGAINST in-state tuition for “ILLEGALS”…..Just like Bachman said “they are magnet attractions”!! What starving poor parent doesn’t want to make their kids lives better???? Get rid of the incentives!

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    • alces1
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:02pm

      I think the last thing illegals think about is in state tuition.I would assume most think about jobs and the social programs that liberals have pushed for such as welfare,foodstamps,section 8 housing,medicaid,Obama phones and possibility of a 52″ TV.Again, in state tuition would probably be last on their list of priorities.

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  • Ookspay
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:23pm

    Now I see why the MSM and democrats have been giving Perry a pass, they would love to run against this guy in the General election. Perry es finito! Vaya con Dios hoto!

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:35pm

      There’s no need for name calling.

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    • patbarker
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:44pm

      what planet are u on?? Dems have given Perry a pass??

      woohoo, now that’s funny!!!

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:16pm

      Firedbrand,

      Lo siento, yo no sabía que hablaba español…

      Ookspamanos

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  • mml35
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:21pm

    still like perry, ppl fail to see the big picture I am sticking with him

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    • ThankBabyJesus
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:52pm

      Me too MML35. Ron Paul has some stellar insights, but we must protect our liberties and hammer closer to the source the better off freedom is. Freedom is the bigger picture and is hard to comprehend for some. Death to Tyranny. Perry has shown tremendous leadership and has taken responsibility for his wrongdoings. Perry made an excellent point last night about his perceived issue of vaccines that I think he was implying that people need to comprehend the value of opt out, rather than ‘permission’ to do so (opt in) which would be timely and may cost lives. I don’t think people understand that. Rick Perry has stood his ground well and is still my choice for being our next president.

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    • trueblueday
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:16pm

      I did hear callers from Texas on a radio broadcast this morning state that Perry has come out multiple times wanting a borderless country. Is this true? Is it true that legal citizens of the US who go to college in Texas must pay a portion of tuition that goes towards illegals? If he is a progressive, we can’t vote for him.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:34pm

      If you still support Perry you are beyond help. You might like his Mexico-USA healthcare plan proposal. You are a fool and a Tool.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 5:07am

      Perry is as dumb as a worm, and I am sorry for disparaging worms. I like worms and use them as bait for fishing. Anyone who has an ounce of common sense and still supports Perry after all his skeletons in the closet are being revealed is, let’s just say beyond redemption. Perry had his 15 minutes of fame so it is time to move on. Slick Ric with his perfect hairdo and pearly white teeth, may attract the groupie vote, but that is about it. Also when you outright lie, which he did, that should be enough period.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:18pm

    Good. Now, maybe Palin will formally announce.

    We really need somebody outside the box, people. Romney will be marginally better than what we have now, but at this point in the game, that isn’t close to being enough. 4 to 8 more years on the present course and Newt is certainly right about buying Greek debt and going down with the ship.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:25pm

      I’m sure that Newt was being facetious (but I’m not sure what Newt is doing being a candidate).

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:42pm

      I agree completely Hauschild! Sarah Palin has consistently been the most conservative person in the GOP since 2008. I have always believed in her but I got swept up in the “she’s unelectable” drumbeat. I was hoping that someone would step up and be our new champion, but as of now I am leaning back to a Sarah run. The TEA party for some reason rallied around Perry, hopefully now they will focus on a real TEA Party Patriot. Perry’s toast.

      PALIN/Rubio 2012

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    • momprayn
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:02pm

      Yes, as I’ve been saying for awhile now, don’t give up on her. She has always ran an unconventional campaign – since she is unconventional to most politicians and that‘s why she’s so popular among the Consvs. She knows what she’s doing. She’s waiting to make sure and see what pans out. People already know all about her – it‘s like she’s been “out there” since she ran for VP and she’s already been vetted beyond reason. Also what others don‘t think of is that she’s very devout Christian & believes strongly in the power of prayer, etc. So maybe she feels God hasn’t given her the “go ahead” yet..and who‘s to say that isn’t right? It seems more ppl are thinking more favorably of her now than they have before – seeing that they’re not crazy about our present selection that are “electable”. Ignore all that “unelectable” nonsense. Plus things will probably change & don‘t be surprised if it’s not Obama that runs but Hillary — which would change some minds to her also.

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    • Tagudinian
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:42pm

      Sarah Palin’s stealth aircraft is just on a holding pattern. She’s off the radar – which is good. This way she can express her views without any liberal pundit getting too excited and too nosy. Sarah Palin is a solid conservative who is not afraid to face the Republican Establishment, the Ruling Elite, the Crony Capitalists and those who scream that she is unelectable. It is now time to watch for her signal so that we all can go to work for her grassroots campaign. We need her brand of fire-in-the-gut really bad to reclaim our American exceptionalism, revive the economy, to get government out of the way of job creation and to fire the EPA and the Czars.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:54pm

      Palin is doing a great job of avoiding all the debates, know why? CAUSE SHE ISN’T RUNNING DUMMIES. She knows she can’t win and moreover she knows she can make more bank sitting on a fake stage in Alaska taking pot shots. Don’t you get it? She’s all about the Benjamins, beginning and end of story.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:16pm

      @simpleton, So if she does run then I guess you’ll be the “dummy”, Right? I’ll get back to ya…

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  • toodarnedstubborn
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:17pm

    Go Herman Cain!

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  • Stu D. Baker-Hawk
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:17pm

    Perry has just killed his chances at getting a shot at POTUS. Talk about a RINO… damn! Glad we found out now before too much money and time was invested in this fool. Now, if only Herman Cain would start getting some traction, then I might actually find some REAL ‘hope’ for us as a nation.

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:27pm

      With every public appearance, Perry will prove to be the lightweight he really is. He lies a lot. His lack of depth is stark.
      Hopefully, his days of being “the flavor of the week” are over.

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  • Locked
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:17pm

    Article title sounds like an X-Rated movie. The follow-up to “Who‘s Nailin’ Paylin?” perhaps?

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  • Dudley Do-Right
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:16pm

    Come on Sarah…it’s time!

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  • squeaker
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:15pm

    Perry is a RINO, and as someone posted… Seems to be a plant from the Democraps. — He seems dumb as a rock and attacks Romney every chance he gets. —- He’ll NEVER get my vote..! Perry is NO better than obambam……

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:27pm

      Yes, he is better than Obumbler (but yes, he’s one of the bottom two candidates I saw last night).

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    • squeaker
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:12pm

      @Chuck Stein – You’re right “Not as bad as obumbler” – But Perry in now where near the improvement this country needs. …Perry’s only in it for himself…

      also notice that Perry always has that “deer in the headlights” look…

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  • Mandors
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:13pm

    “PERRY GETS POUNDED DAY AFTER DEBATE”

    Hey, isn’t that the type of thing Larry Flint is looking for? Go get your $1M, Blaze.

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  • Iam4EnoughALREADY
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:12pm

    I am pro Herman Cain after this one….

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    • Countrygirl1362
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:20pm

      Have liked Cain all along, but his idea for the EPA is the best I have heard yet.

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    • teddie888
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 3:26am

      Cain doesn’t speak properly (ei. proper English) And he wouldn’t beat BO. If you’re serious about not becoming a socialist country and having BO out, then it’s best to vote for someone who will beat BO. The Wiiliam Buckley rule

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  • alleyfarms
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:10pm

    Seems like the media should focus less on Romney and Perry and really allow the other candidates to speak more. Perry and Romney are just two more “establishment” types who will say ANYTHING to get elected. We deserve better than this. I really hope that the next debate format is actually fair in terms of equal number of questions and time to EVERY candidate. Then the VOTING PUBLIC can make an informed decision.

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  • nocomment
    Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:09pm

    Why isn’t Allen West up there?

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