Perry: ‘I Don’t Think You Have a Heart’ If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants
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Republican front-runner Rick Perry took some serious shots at his record on illegal immigration during Thursday night’s Republican presidential debate. Mitt Romney, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, and Rick Santorum all weighed in on the issue, with Bachmann asserting that a Texas law allowing in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants only serves as a “magnet” for illegal immigrants.
Perry didn’t back down from his critics, however, stating “I don’t think you have a heart“ if ”you say that we should not educate children who come into our state for no other reason than that they’ve been brought their through no fault of their own.”
“We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that’s what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature when this issue came up [there were] only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it today.”
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D_Engineer
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:07amI agree with Perry on this one. If you think more of your pocket than providing basic education to this kids. Perry is right – you don’t have a heart.
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:16amPhony “compassion” argument dooms Perry:
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/09/22/romeny-bickers-with-perry-stumbled-cain-gingrich-shined/
Cain did very well…
IAMNOTKNOWING
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:16amFAIL!
FAIL!!
F’ING FAIL!!!!!!
Tough shi*t!
Report Post »Your parents broke the laws of our country. You’re “entitled” to exactly what they are, …. NOTHING!
ashestoashes
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:17amD_Engineer…Oh really.. so you think that illegals should be preferred for college education over our own children on our tax dime….makes perfect sense to me.
Report Post »Patriotme
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:18amThe in-state tuition for illegals is just a magnet, or incentive for more to come over illegally, and risk their lives in the process. It was also a means for Perry to secure a large portion of the Hispanic vote in Texas. Perry has proven that he is just more of the same; a politician who will warp his ideals to suit the highest bidder. Why am I heartless to stick to my convictions, and to put my country and fellow citizens first?
Report Post »D_Engineer
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:23ambasic education. Not College- Children! How much do you spent on giving basic education to children?
Report Post »It doesn’t broke the bank.
ccr
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:27amOh, my………..WHAT about all of the LEGAL citizens of this country wanting/needing a FREE college education?? Are you saying we should give FREE college education………to the WHOLE world??
Come on.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/278074/perry-s-ambiguous-employment-record-steven-camarota?page=1 Here‘s some interesting info on Texas’ “great” employment numbers.
Maybe Perry is running for …………President of the World……instead of the US.
Report Post »408 CheyTac
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:28amscr*w this bozo. if they nominate him I am going to vote for the bumster just to not support more of these rino fools.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:29amNothing wrong with my heart. This about right and wrong. Illeagal = NO education from tax dollars. None.
Illegal is just that.
Report Post »D_Engineer
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:31amwe are not talking college here. BASIC education-that’s it. And that what Perry is talking about.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:33amD_Engineer..he was talking about college educations.. But the truth is ..these kids along with their parents need to be deported. That is why they are called illegal immigrants. Would you really expect to go to any other country illegally and expect to get on their welfare system? My other posts didn’t make it on. so I will state again that Perry braggs about job growth when the job growth predated his governorship, he imprisons illegals on our tax dime and he has raised taxes a lot. He is not a contender that is for our own people..and remember…we are the tax payers…they should be worlking in our best interest.
Report Post »D_Engineer
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:39amIf it is college then I retract my statement.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:50amHere we go with the compassionate conservatism crap again. I have a huge heart and I do NOT want my tax money going to pay for in-state tuition for ANY Illegals.
Even worse, it’s because of this stupid thinking that it looks like we are going to get Romney as our nominee. I hope all you people are happy now cause you have handed Obama 4 more years.
Report Post »Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:50amThe problem is that this is a magnet for more illegals. He won’t do E-Verify, he won’t secure the border with something that will hold back illegals. Border guards are hit and miss sadly, and only another 1,000 National Guard on the border will do nothing.
This is why people say he is like Bush, except in Texas Bush created more jobs… so did his predecessor, than Perry.
This is why the Tea Party is calling him back to Texas to fix their immigration problem because it is bad in Texas, one of the worse states, minus California, a sanctuary state. Remember that he was also booed at the Tea Party Debate for his stance on Immigration: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/sep/perry_booed_immigration.html
Report Post »Gamaliel
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:53amKids? How long do we have to feed, clothe, educate, house, & medicate these “kids”. By the time a person goes to college they are a young adult, typically at least 18 years old. (Old enough to join the military by the way.)
Report Post »darkrage000
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:56amHey! Sneak into this country! We will clothe you, feed you, Give you FREE medical treatment, Free Housing… AND… We will pay for you and your kids to go to school! And then, we will let you drive drunk, rob, kill, rape, murder, steal….. and NOT DEPORT YOU!
We don’t do this for our OWN citizens, but will will happily do it for you.. on THEIR BACKS!
Get a grip already
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:07amWhile watching the debate with my 20 year old son who’s paying his own tuition, he asks me what that was all about, I explained to him that Perry gave 100,000 off tuition to illegals, just so long as their going for citizenship, he as well as I ,think thats CRAP!
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:11amSo lets take what he’s said and what the act actually says and allows for.
1) you have to live in TX for 3 years
2) you have to sign an affidavit of citizenship intent (you must be pursuing citizenship)
3) you get in state tuition, NOT a free ride
4) you aren’t eligible for state financial aid (getting our greenbacks back)
5) you aren’t eligible for federal aid
6) you are letting the state of TX know where your illegal parentsPlease are
7) money isn’t being diverted FROM anyone to anyone else
please refer to the following:
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/77R/billtext/html/HB01403F.htm
The argument I would have is that the law needs to be changed to make sure that the applicants are ACTIVELY pursuing, or in the process of pursuing, citizenship and that enrollment in the process must be completed before they graduate college.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:14amI think basic education great, but being a U.S. Citizen should have benefits !
Report Post »Like trying terrorist in U.S. Courts with all the benefits as a U.S. Citizen . They dont have those rights!
Thats where Holder is clueless……..come on …..there makin it as their are No benefits of citizenship !
gdbhusker
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:17amIt’s not a basic education question…… Can in state students who wish to attend one of the major universities afford to go there??? can out of state students????? not unless their parents have some serious cash…but illegals??????? oh yeah…big daddy government to the rescue…off the backs of the working class stiffs!!!! so the message is clear in TEJAS…..work hard so that your kids can get a Community college education….and jose, jaun and his 4 brothers can go to UT, A&M, Tech, TCU etc… subsidized by you…schmucks!!
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:18amI forgot. You have to graduate from a TX public school. That’s a kicker for me. How do illegals graduate from TX public schools. That should be the real question that people ask of Perry.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:21am@godlovin
Report Post »is your son going to a school in the same state as your home? If he is, he gets the same “discount”. If not, he gets the same “price hike” as illegals that live in or out of state, respectively.
neverending
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:26amI am with him as well. Young kids can’t change the situation they are in. So when we have a President that is serious about securing the border and fix the problem from there then we won’t have young kids put in that situation.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:34amAfter thinking about this for a minute, this is actually a pretty ingenious way to get money back from people that are here illegally. They aren’t eligible for financial aid, so that money goes straight to the school. In addition, the kids have to pay taxes on the required school supplies and textbooks (trust me when I say that after tuition this is the biggest expense that a student has) three times a year since there are three academic sessions per year. IF they do become citizens, then they are higher paid citizens buying more expensive goods and therefore paying more in sales tax.
Just a non-well-formed thought.
Report Post »patsne
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:34amI have a lot of compassion for people who came at such a young age with parents, that they are very Amercianized and have never known nor can they recall anything else. It is very disturbing to think of kicking some teen or young adult out and requiring them to live in Mexico, when they are as American and my kids. I don‘t think this means we have to have compassion and I think we need to be very careful that it isn’t used as a way to get others in who came when they were old enought to know and realize that they were breaking the law and needed to at least begin the process to become a citizen but haven’t. But if cases were looked at individually, and you could petition the courts to consider your case, based on the fact that you could not recall living anywhere else as you came at such a young age and if you could make a VERY good case that you are someone that America would desire to have stay – you have no criminal record, good school behavior and grades, lots of volunteer work and accomplishments – you have to be the best of the best – maybe willing to serve in the military, etc. – then I say just grant citizenship in those cases. Any who are law breakers, a drag to society, mal contents, lazy – sorry – it’s tough luck-you’re out.
Report Post »Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:41amFrank Luntz came out and said this is the first focus group that has ever turned on their republican candidate… this was about Rick Perry because of immigration… this is the nail in his coffin:
http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/sep/luntz_winner_romney.html
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:52am@pats
Have you ever read Australia’s requirements for citizenship? You have to be able to contribute to society. You basically have to have a PhD!
@Anyone
Nice nickname! ABO2012
Well immigration is a hot button issue for repubs. Anything other than “round ‘em up and ship ’em out” is pretty much unacceptable. I think that a case-by-case approach is needed. Theoretically, there are illegal children who have NO IDEA that they are illegal. If they came here young and their parents stayed under the radar for 16 years, there is a possibility. What do you do with those cases? Just a thinking exercise.
Something else that I want to point out is that the law prevents you from being eligible for in-state tuition if your country borders or shares a border with Texas, which kind of narrows down who isn’t eligible. At least that’s the way I read it. I need to go back and reread the bill, but that was my understanding.
Report Post »Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:55amThis is the video I was looking for where the Tea Party in Texas is getting frustrated with Rick Perry for not fixing Immigration and tell him to come back and fix the TX immigration problem:
Report Post »http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/sep/teaparty_pressures_perry.html
blue_sky
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:00am“You don’t have a heart” what that socialist BS supposed to mean. If you have a heart, do not shame me. Pay for your pet projects, follow your heart, but stay out of MY pocket!
It is now very clear that those old guard neo-cons and RINOs who cling to Perry and Romney despite them being exposed as fake conservatives, shows how sad GOP retrogressed to. No wonder Tea Party view neo-cons and socialist-progressives as two wings of the same party.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:02am@blue
Report Post »Well you’re going to have to pick someone, and Paul can‘t and won’t win in the national GenE.
godlovinmom
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:28amIf you aren’t a citizen of America you should not get this rate reduction…period…one thing I agree with Romney, its a magnet…financial aid is a joke…why would you need federal or financial aid with a 100 grand knocked off your fees…as far as a good idea, it only shows that it apparently pays to do things the illegal way, it pays off…I have compassion for these people, but we all know they are a BIG drain on America, not to mention the security risk, and we all know that alot of their allegiance still lies with mexico…they don’t want to be Americans, they don’t want to speak english…so why should my tax dollars go to their welfare, medical problems, when we have enough to deal with taking care of legal American freeloaders. And as far as those jobs illegals have that nobody wants, if we get these people from collecting 99 weeks of unemployment, and actually have to get a job, well those unwanted jobs might fill up quick…the real minority in America is the single white christian male, they “qualitfy” for nothing!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:57amDUDE, these illegal kids who are there and no one has the guts to deal with CAN go to SCHOOL…just like I did and millions of others…WE WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH…not on other people’s tax money.
Report Post »WHAT PART OF THAT can’t PERRY GET? WE have a heart, but BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER and we need to make sure OUR OWN get educations too/first.
PAYING their TUITION also adds to the MAGNET drawing ILLEGALS. IT makes -0- sense. IF they want an education so badly, let them work 3 jobs and 6.5 days a week too! WE did. WE made it. NO one paid our way….and for that NUTCASE WARREN: Gas tax pays for highways; Property OWNERS pay the school taxes… people who pay 0 taxes pay for 0… the “RICH” build the buildings, the plants, the warehouses, buy the trucks, HIRE THE PEOPLE.
AND…toots…. since we all used the COMMUNAL ROADS and EDUCATIONS paid for “by ALL THE PEOPLE ” (which is a lie) WHY AREN’T ALL THE PEOPLE RICH??? ??? STUPIDO.
Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:02am@godlovin
Romney’s calcuations are a little off. Tuition and fees in TX for a resident are approximately $3500 a semester. $7000 if you live in the dorms. It’s closer to $12000 if you don’t. That’s only 10K a year. So over 4 years, that’s only 40K, not 100K. Also, the stipulation is that you had to live here for 3 years and graduated high school in TX. So, at most the child was 17 years of age. I highly doubt that a 17 year illegal would be able to assimilate into the American culture easily enough to attend high school at that age. So they were probably here for a while and didn’t know know any better.
With that being said, Do I have any compassion for the parents? Absolutely not. I’m actually really upset with them for bringing a child here illegally. More so than I would be for them coming over alone. The safety of the child is in question. How stupid do you have to be to bring a baby through the desert or hidden in a truck or car. It just makes me gnash my teeth.
I included the bill from the Texas legislature above/below this post. It’s not like they are getting free money or stealing from someone else. There are no admission quotas. I would agree that there is a tiny magnetism to the equation, but I seriously don’t think the illegals are thinking of their kids going to college when they come over. Hit the employers. Hit them hard. I’m talking a 3 strike rule, and on strike three you get shut down. That would stop it quick.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:24amFirebrand…I hear ya…don’t know whats wrong with me tonight..after watching the debates…I felt nothing was accomplished…NOTHING…quite a few rhinos still exist…we need someone with our ideals in mind…so don’t give up on Sarah…just saying…I can relate to her more than any so far.
Report Post »MontereyWill
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:27amCorrect me if I read this wrong, but the Texas law gives illegals the same tuition rates as other nonresident (ie. other states) students. Here is the section of the law which states such:
“(m) Unless the student establishes residency as provided by 1-9 Section 54.052(j) or 54.057, tuition [Tuition] for a student 1-10 [students] who is a citizen [are citizens] of any country other 1-11 than the United States of America is the same as the tuition 1-12 required of other nonresident students.”
Report Post »Windwalker
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:58amMost states clip hefty out of state college entrants “out of state” tuition fees and Texas is no exception. So let’s see…..if you are an illegal alien, you don’t pay it, but any legal American citizen coming from the other 49 states does. Brilliant Perry…..just brilliant.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:15amtexas is mexico.
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:29amWhy would you agree with helping to break the law?
“I think that’s what Texans wanted to do.”
Report Post »I think he’s beginning to develop liberalitis. Just like the liberals, he does something that he wants to and automatically all of us Texas wants it. BS!!! If he was man enough to get the illegal ALIENS out of our state, educating the kids would not be an issue because they would go back to Mexico with their parents. When starts saying things like this, that just shows that he is all FOR amnesty and keeping the criminals here instead of shipping them back to Mexico, etc, etc, etc. He is fixing to lose a LARGE portion of voters(out of the ones that were going to be voting for him, except for the liberal voters like D_ENGINEER). Perry, why don’t you go ahead and send them back to Mexico and you can go with them if you like them being around you so much!!! Everyone just remember that when they start talking about it being a good thing to educate the kids of illegal aliens, it really doesn’t have anything to do with the kids but their somewhat hidden attempts to try and keep the parents here since sending the parents back means the kids go back with them so no educating them here.
symphonic
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:29amD Engineer is RIGHT. So is Perry on this one. Most of you don’t seem to have any heart. Where’s the Christian in you?
Report Post »jujubeebee
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:29amCollege is not “basic” education. They are illegal and citizens from neighboring states need to pay more? why? What part of ILLEGAL is not understood here? Why should taxpayers foot this bill? This is NOT about who has a heart!
Report Post »vrodder
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:29amTo steal my money is immoral, no matter how noble your cause!
To say if we do not allow these people to be a drag on society then they will become one, does not make sense!
Report Post »LadyGOP
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:32amHe is the only one that can talk about the subject because he is the only one with any experience with illegals. Romney has not a clue. He had no support from the feds trying to address the problem. He may not be a a slick talker like Romney but he has more relevant experience than them all.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:35amI’m in Texas. I had to provide records for my child to enroll in school….birth certificate, utility bill (for proof of residency), shot records. How do illegals have this to provide? And if they don’t have to provide it, why do I? If you get here illegally, you should be entitled to only one thing….a trip back home. I wasn’t here to vote on that issue yet, or I would have thrown a fit. I guess he thinks that’s the only way to get the Hispanic vote.
Report Post »dancermommd
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:37amPaying for a college education is now considered basic? Basic is 1-12. After that it’s up to them. They want to go to college great, go to college, but if the state doesn’t allow in state tuition for US citizens from other states then why should they be granted in state for ILLEGALS?
Report Post »HKS
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:40amGiving strangers something you won’t give a citizen is just fundamentally wrong.
Report Post »Tom21773
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:45amYou fake conservatives are disgusting. Illegal is illegal. Perry wants to pander to illegals. He wants to give illegals special deals, thus encouraging more illegals. To help them get here, he does not want the border protected. I believe this guy’s first name is really Ricardo.
Cheating American citizens is treason. Treason and being a traitor should be punished. On that one issue alone, I would not vote for Perry if he was nominated. I know a lot of people feel the same way. Obama may be re-elected after all.
We don’t need another RINO from Massachusetts any more than we need one from Texas (had both with Bush), but if it comes down to being close between Perry and Romney, I would vote for Romney. A better choice would be Bachmann or Santorum, if for no other reason (and yet there are plenty) then because they not only want to stop illegal immigration, but they know the Department of Education should be closed. Carter created that scam, most intelligent people know what a joke he was and yet we still have his legacy biting us every day. Why do we still have it. And then Bush came along and made it worse. Time to get rid of that and the EPA.
Time to make the U.S.A. free again.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:49amMaybe with his stupid comment people will wake up to the idiocy of Rick Perry the RINO. But then again, someone like you will like that bullcrap he is spreading. That’s why we got an idiot like John McCain last time…
I say we hire some compassionate bus drivers to drive all the illegals back home where they belong!
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:51am@ D_Engineer
Report Post »That’s just wacky!!! Illegals should have to go through the process for citizenship that’s in place — period!
No special benefits. Non-citizens don’t deserve ANY kind of taxpayer support. How is it, an American citizen from Oklahoma, would have to pay full tuition, while an illegal would not?
Bachmann is the best on illegal immigration. Romney’s rhetoric is good.
Jackers
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:53amRick Perry is just another open-border, One World Order, global elitist with a terrible record on illegal immigration.
There is a right way to enter this country and a wrong way to enter this country. It is not a matter of “having a heart.” It’s a matter of upholding the rule of law, securing our borders, defending our sovereignty, and protecting the safety and security of the American people.
These open-border advocates can spin all they want, but the truth is simple: Illegal immigration is illegal. Our law-makers should not be rewarding law-breakers at the expense of law-abiders.
What good are “laws” if they are not enforced? What good are law-makers who give preferential treatment to illegal aliens over legal citizens? Has this country been turned upside-down on its head? And now we’re supposed to “accept” that right is wrong, and wrong is right? If you’re an illegal alien, you could become our next President; but if you’re a law-abiding, tax-paying citizen who happens to oppose mass illegal immigration, you’re a “radical” or “mean spirited” or “racist”… Give me a break!
The overwhelming majority of the American people have clearly expressed over and over again their absolute opposition to amnesty of any sort. It is far past time that our elected “representatives” stop representing global corporations, global unions and special interest groups and start representing the majority will and best interests of the American people.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:23amHannity‘s post debate interview with Bachmann exposes Perry’s pay-to-play cronyism:
Report Post »http://video.foxnews.com/v/1176992416001/2012-candidate-reacts-to-gop-debate
smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:32amThat should be what anyone with a brain needs to hear…Perry should be removed after that and that alone. Santorum made more sense when he told Perry that even if you allowed illegals to attend college in America they should have to pay their own way like every legal American.
Report Post »Perry will not and should not get the nomination…..HE’S MORE OF THE SAME
smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:34amhttp://news.yahoo.com/most-texas-job-growth-went-immigrants-102213687.html
Report Post »81% OF NEW JOB GROWTH IN TEXAS WAS FORIEGN WORKERS NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:44amChurchill said it best,
Report Post »Anyone whose 20 and not liberal has no heart,and anyone whose 40 and not conservatiove has no brains…….Well I think Gov. Perry showed everyone where he is ……..dropping him from the nomintion is a NO BRAINER
Quagmir
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:48am<——-Heartless
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:55amI know illegal immigration is a hot button issue for many, but for me it isn’t that critical. I think the assimilation question is more important, plus the drain on our budgets from giving them money. But this in-state tuition doesn’t look like they are getting a handout. They aren’t getting state scholarships or loans. They are simply being charged the rate for Texas residents. I assume that rate covers the cost of the education. Plus, if they can afford that it means they or their parents are working and thus paying taxes that help pay for it in any case. In short, they aren’t, on this matter at least, costing us anything.
So what’s the problem? It’s the illegal thing. Yeah I hate that too. But as we are a nation of immigrants, some of whom are descended from ancestors who came here by hook or by crook, the question of legality when it comes to getting to the beacon of freedom for the earth isn’t the big moral problem that our debt, union tyranny, socialist takeover of our economy, corruption of marriage, slaughter of the unborn, betrayal of Israel, etc.are. Giving them the privileges of real citizens is unfair to both real citizens and those who are waiting in line to become citizens legally. But this unfairness isn’t endangering our country the way the other things are. And many problems involved with illegal immigration can be rectified in ways other than being hard nosed about the law.
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:02amHope you Perry supporters are ready for compASSoinate conservatism 2.0…notice the name of the symbol of the democrats cleverly disguised in that label?
Report Post »bread and circuses
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:05amLettuce pickers don’t need college
Report Post »Belzar
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:06amI think if the children came here at a young age, they are Americanized as much as children born in the U.S. I have not read the law but I bet it includes the provision the children and parents must meet the residency requirements to qualify for in state tuition. All states have that provision for in state tuition.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:09am.
Get serious.
Do we want to take every person in the world in?
There’s a billion people in Asia who have a tough life, do you have that big a heart?
Do you have that big a pocketbook? Oh, yeah, it‘s other people’s money.
What do you expect from a RINO?
Report Post »Think Perry will cut the budget if he supports more free stuff for criminals?
Gonzo
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:14amWhat does heart have to do with it? It’s about money! Why should a Mexican kid get cheaper tuition in Texas than a kid from Alabama?
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:15am… Hey Rick! What part of ‘Illegal … ALIEN’ do you not understand? What you want to do is a mis-appropriation of our tax dollars! It is ILLEGAL for the government to do what you do! You, and every other lousy politician, cares more about ILLEGAL ALIENS than you do about the AMERICAN PEOPLE!! GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!
Report Post »PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:19amSorry to tell you but if my kids who are not illegal aliens can’t go to school for in state tuition in Texas then the illegals need to pay full price also.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:21amAnd what about those who have waited for years to become legal? Why should they be penalized? It’s wrong. Upside down.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:21amWhat people need to realize is that, even if you are 100% right about the policy issue, if you appear cold hearted in the application it will kill your chances of winning in the general electiuon.
Remember winning?
We are Americans, and Americans are an optimistic people. That means to capture the support of the broad populace a candidate is going to have to appear more open and generous than not. And our better nature don’t like treating others as the enemy, unless they attacked us. And you will never get the independents and moderate republicans to look at immigrants living next to them as their enemy. I can’t stomach that and I hate out goverments laxity on immigration.
But let’s face it. Our real anger is not to the illegals. They are only doing what any sane many would do: get to freedom however you can. How are they much different then Cubans floating on rafts to Florida? Our real anger is toward the government. We make a big mistake my letting that anger seep into our public reactions to illegals. No matter our merits on the law, it makes us look hard hearted, and frankly unAmerican.
So I don’t blaim Perry for making sure his principles are moderated by compassion. I may disagree with the way he is moderating them, but that he does so is not that upsetting. I expect every decent leader to do the same. I just hope he HAS priciples he is moderating.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:25amPerry’s actions have nothing to do with helping the rich. Therefore, they are not acceptable.
Report Post »gobnait
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:29amWhat do you say to the American citizens and legal immigrants turned away from universities because illegals have taken their seats? What do you say to the American citizens and legal immigrants in adjoining states who are frozen out of those same schools because illegals enjoy benefits that they do not like in-state tuition? What do you say to those American citizens and legal immigrants-that they are chumps for playing by the rules?
Report Post »gobnait
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:32amI think you’re confused. The issue is a college education at taxpayer expense. States are ALREADY Constitutionally mandated to provide a FREE public primary and secondary education to illegals at our expense.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:32amWe spend $360 billion on illegals a year. Its time to give the money to our troops. No border fence is enough to make mine a no vote for Perry.
Report Post »MarathonPatriot
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:37amNo one was saying that! They should have to pay for their education just like every othe American and not get special priviledges. Perry is just and all the Texa politicians are playing Politics trying to secure the Latino vote for their own political greed. This man is Obama light. He must not rule!
Report Post »Thank heavens he got his butt kicked in that debate by Romney & Santorum
notatoomah
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:37amFine, let’s have it put on as optional, and we’ll see how many people actually contribute to it. If their parents want to immigrate the legal way, then they can use our schools if they dare. Problem is, the amount of time we have to spend teaching the to speak english first.
Report Post »jnobfan
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:46amWhy not offer the same deal to American students if his heart is so big?
Report Post »My kids can’t go to Texas schools for free.
Perry is in trouble on this one and he should be.
Islesfordian
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:51amAnyone think this country can take another four years of Obama? How many are wondering if we’ll survive until the election?
Being hard nosed and hot headed about immigration is not going to win in the general election, and it might just cost us the latino vote. Is being “right” on immigration worth losing?
If you were given the choice of taking it up the rear on the illegal question or letting Obama get reelected what would you choose?
Report Post »DJR
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:56amI understand his thinking on this but I don’t think illegals should get any service from the government, state or federal, except a ticket back home. We need to come up with a solution that complys with the current laws. Illegal is illegal.
Report Post »Dkoonz
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:09amNuts! Why would my kids have to pay out the …. while people that are here illegally pay nothing. Perry got such a big heart then let him pay for the illegal”s.
Report Post »Perry has lost my support.
Silvertongue
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:18amWhat my heart says is irrelavant If there illegal send them back or change the law. Right is Right and wrong is wrong… Trust me i dont want law changed just send them back and make them do it legally.
Report Post »SFsuper49er
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:19amPerry trying to sugarcoat something that is wrong….
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:24amI am an American from Konnecticut, Can I get in state tuition?? If no, then they shouldn’t either.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:27amI just have one question will any “Politician” even thou they run on it ever do away with taxes or term limits?
No…
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:28amPerry is done! Finished ! Finito! Buhbye! This guy is a progressive, I was a fan and hopeful he would be the guy but he isn’t. Amazing that he thinks that an illegal mexican should recieve better tutition rates than a kid from another State. And then to say that we have no heart, unbelievable!
I was warned by some of you Texans here and by Pat Gray that he was “Slick Rick”, now I see the truth. In his book he stated that social security should be given back to the States, he even said it in the previous dabate. But last night he was trying to walk that back and say that he meant for State employees to opt out of SS, bullcrap.
This is why primaries are a long and grueling process, One can only hide who they are for only so long. Perry is finished.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:28amThese idiots just don’t understand basic facts of life, if we take all the resources of the planet and divide it equally to everyone, with in a very, very few decades, we will over populate the planet, and if this redistribution continues we will all starve. Life isn’t designed to be fair, it’s designed for the best to survive, the best survive by getting stronger, not killing themselves so those least equipped to survive do.
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:31amHey ENGINEER, Why don’t you pick up the tab for all the illegals? Or better yet, go to Mexico and see how fast they enroll you into their school for free and maybe they will even pay for your medical, food and anything else you might need.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:32amMaybe your heart should also extend to poor white males born here, but out of state who meet entrance requirements for college, but dont have the funds and don’t qualify for the minority secific grants of have a parent or parents who make just a shade more thant is allowed, but can’t come up withthe thousands necessary for college.Since you are so concerned about THE CHILDREN — where is YOUR HEART!
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:39amI want a candidate to appeal to the legals in this country for a change.
Report Post »We can no longer afford to be everyones keeper when we can no longer feed our own.
I don’t call that heartless I call that a sad reality in the USA.
TheRockman
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:40amFirebrand said “7) money isn’t being diverted FROM anyone to anyone else”.
There are only so many slots available in the school, and most schools get far more applicants than they have slots for. So you’re saying that illegal aliens should get a slot before another Legal Texas applicant or American citizen from another state?
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:41amNO, if they want a college education, they should have to pay for it as all of the other non-residents do. This business of pandering to illegal aliens, and let’s cut to the chase the vast majority are Mexicans, has to end. IF, other countries provided reciprocity to American citizens to work, obtain health care, and to have every other legal right and privilege as their citizens, then perhaps we could talk. Until then, this should be out of the question.
If you’re Mexican and you want to attend university at a reduced rate – please go and do so in YOUR country. Nobody is stopping you. Go study in Monterrey or Toluca or the DF. If you want to study here, do as Saudi Arabians have done for years and get a friggin’ student visa. End of story.
As for Perry, he just lost my support in the primaries. This one issue is that important. We already had 8 years of a Texas Republican who was pitiful on immigration and we need something different. Or else we’ll all be speaking Spanish.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:52am@PATRIOT DAVE We are handing Obama back the Presidency by liking Romney? So a musilm is better than a Mormon? Come on Dave. Perry is not a man for the people. He raised taxes, he gives preferential treatment to illegals over our own. His job growth which he braggs about predated his governorship. Hello. Romney has lowered taxes. prefers our own to illegals..wants to place a plan into action to return them home. They take 338.3 billion from us every year. Romney understands what the majority of knuckleheads don’t and that is to fix Social Security and Medicare. Loads of the eldrely will be out in the streets in the future if they don’t . Perry has placed more of the burden of insurance to fall on the insurance consumer. Romney has admitted his tried healthcare had problems. Romney is a leader..one who would serve our best interests. If we prefer the muslim in office, God forbid…then we deserve all we get.
Report Post »hvy_gunner_0331
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:56amSorry folks, the law is the law… If you don’t contribute to the infrastructure, you shouldn’t be offered any other services than those required to save life or limb. Illegal immigrants broke the law – it’s not my problem that they dragged their kids into it. Maybe they should have considered that before they decided to be law breakers. I’m not shouldering the burden for them. It’s a hard call, but sometimes the hard call needs to be made for the good of the Nation.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:05am“I was warned by some of you Texans here and by Pat Gray that he was “Slick Rick”, now I see the truth. ”
Funny, my problem with him is that he seems anything but slick. He seemed clumsy and inarticulate. I thought his big selling point was as a strong advocate for real conservatism. Even allowing for his occasional variances from sound conservative principles, he is showing that he isn’t up to the task up being a rhetorical leader. He isn’t showing much steel in the mind or fire in the belly. Romney ran circles around him.
Does anyone else think his accent sounds a bit like Gore’s?
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:09am@D_ENGINEER
Report Post »You can apply that flawed logic to any illegal situation. Returning those children to their real country sooner will allow them to begin the legal process to enter this country sooner. What compassion do you have for those waiting in line to enter this country legally …… I think none. You must be a Social Engineer.
slr4528
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:10amYou are wrong! There are hardworking parents who are U.S. citizens who have children who would like to attend Texas A&M but can not afford to do so because they cannot afford the tuition. I would like to vote for a president who is on the side of the hard working U.S. citizen verses a president who accused the U.S. Citizen that they do not have a heart and who expends more energy protecting the rights of illegal immigrants verses the rights of the U.S. citizen.
Illegal Immigration is burdening the U.S. citizen with rising healthcare costs,rising education costs and rising crime rates. Perry is a globalist pure and simple and there is probably some billionaire globalist propping up this idiot because it is certainly not Perry’s brain!!! Perry has the intellect of road kill.
Report Post »toyfalcon
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:22amHe will not get my vote no way, cannot afford to keep up with this illegal financing of illegals
Report Post »Harpotoo
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:24amWhat‘s the point in eating up OUR resources to educate someone who can’t legally WORK here?
Report Post »Mike Westfall No Hiding
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:33amBorder states with Mexico deal with different problems than non-border states. Rick Perry put this as a state issue which I agree. The issue is to pay instate vs out of state rates. Get a life people, they still are required to PAY INSTATE rates. The University of Texas is a quality education so if they are good enough to qualify and are willing to PAY INSTATE rates, I see this as a good thing. Whereas California wants to if not already does use scholarship awards to make the cost of tuition less than for a instate legal resident.
Report Post »PUSHBACKTHELIBERALHORDE
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:47amOk, you’re right; I don’t have a heart, because I oppose the children of ILLEGAL immigrants receiving in state tuition, over American citizens! I also, oppose ALL illegal immigrant receiving ANY state or federal benefits. They shouldn’t even BE HERE to begin with!
Report Post »But, then again; using logic, reason and critical thought, usually escapes liberal “feelings”!
PUSHBACKTHELIBERALHORDE
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:49amIt’s not “basic” education, it’s tuition for higher education!
Report Post »PUSHBACKTHELIBERALHORDE
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:55ambasic education. Not College- Children! How much do you spent on giving basic education to children?
It doesn’t broke the bank.
Ah, now it’s CLEAR to me!
Report Post »Given your grammatical errors and errors in syntax, I suspect that YOU are an immigrant, either legal or illigal and given your support for ILLEGAL immigrants, I presume the later!
The vast majority of LEGAL immigrants are opposed to ILLEGAL immigration and breaking the rules for them, given that they went through all the requirements to immigrate here legally; so answer me this D_ENGINEER; ARE YOU HERE ILLEGALLY?
Tex Expatriate
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:18amThis Texan has a heart, and to hell with all illegal aliens and their children. They have no business in America, no business in Texas. Send them back to Mexico.
Report Post »ccr
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:22amI’m listening to Beck on the radio…………for a little bit because that is ALL I can stand of him anymore!!
Beck is so full of it!!!!!! Perry has been a PHONY from the beginning! BECK has promoted and protected that bumbling, jibberish speaking guy!!!!!!!!! He’s bashing Romney over and over……..and Pat’s right in the middle, too! Perry LIED at LEAST TWICE last night!!!!!!!! Oh, sure, you called him out a little……a little……….but BASH Romney!!!!!!!! Oh, and Obama will be the POTUS again if Romney is the guy!
YOU ARE SO IRRESPONSIBLE, BECK!!!!!!!!!!!!! I used to be a devoted listener, but NO MORE!!!!!!!!! YOU have an AGENDA………….and it is just PARTIAL truth and INNUENDOs to promote YOUR AGENDA!!
I‘m so thoroughly disgusted with Beck’s “honor” and integrity!!!!!!
Has Beck gotten some kind of pay to play package from Perry’s Texas??????
Report Post »4XGrace
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:27amPerry was a closet Progressive. Now he is out. Why, oh why is he a front runner in the Republican caucus? GET YOUR HEAD OUT THE SAND AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trash that Snake and back some one who is a REAL Republican!
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:30am@therock
I siad this in a previous post. There are no admission quotas in TX. If there are too many qualified students being admitted, they hire more professors.
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:39am@Mike Westphal: So, if I illegally move my family to Baja California, my kids should be entitled to the same education that Mexican kids receive at top Mexican universities? Shouldn’t the Mexican Social Security system cover us? After all, if people like me are so unjust, perhaps we should behave as our dear friends to the south do.
Oh, that’s right: we CAN’T EVEN OWN PROPERTY THERE!! Even when you buy property, you only can own shares in a corporation. You yourself as a “foreigner” can’t own squat. Your US-registered car will be pulled over at every chance and inspected. And we have no rights to anything aside from being robbed by cops and ending up in an unsanitary, filth ridden jail cell.
How dare these people pontificate to us about how we treat their ghetto slime! And Perry is a dumba** if he really believes what he was shoveling last night.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:41amSo there are pipe dreams and then there is reality. There is an illegal immigration problem. Perry tried to fix it. It’s an attempt to say “If you apply for citizenship, you can get a college education.” Instead of being illegal and not paying anything other than sales tax, you have to become a citizen and pay income tax. Which is what many of you complain about right? Think about this, the children had “NO CHOICE” on whether or not they came here or stay here. Many of them don’t even speak their native language. They are in every respect, other than the fact that their parents are jerks, american citizens minus the paperwork. Perry has said, “Start the paperwork and we will let you attend college just as if you WERE a citizen.” Its a way to make sure that illegals that could potentially have a benefit to American society are allowed to do so. Why is this so hard to understand? Again, there are no admission quotas in TX. They aren’t taking anything FROM anyone, but they are giving money to TX that otherwise they wouldn’t have (no financial aid, remember?).
They are also getting an education and have to pursue citizenship. I don’t know about you, but I would prefer that all of the people that enter the country legally had a college education. The program is used to incentivize illegals (that didn’t have a choice in their illegality) to become citizens. Geez.
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:47amForget about Rick Perry… He reminds me of Bush. It’s SCARY!
RON PAUL 2012!
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:54amAnother thing I want to point out is that these same students could have still attended the same schools. Even if they were considered international students. They would have had to pay non-resident tuition, but then what benefit does America get when they take that education back to their own country? None. We get the additional 40K per student and miss out on the income taxes and skills of those people when they go back home. Think China, who is kicking our tails when it comes to math and science. Why? Because they come to America, get a top quality education and then head back home where they innovate and invent and research over there versus here.
Do I like that the law doesn’t absolutely ensure they are enrolled in the citizenship process? No, I hate that part. If I was Perry, I would admit that it needs to be tweaked. I think the overall idea behind it is sound. It’s the execution that stinks.
Report Post »Brizz
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:35pmThanks to the debate for flushing this out into the open. Thanks, but no thanks, Perry.
@D
Report Post »Education isn’t free for US citizens. Many of the illegals‘ children don’t even speak english, which steals the efforts of the teacher away from the other children.
You must not have a heart either, but I was leaning towards lack of a brain.
Rightsofman
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:42pmSpoken like a true Liberal/Progressive. Defend sneaking into a soverign nation and making its citizens responsible for your kids . I break into your house and bring my kids – now they’re your responsibility. Perry is out as far as I’m concerned.
Report Post »TheGoverness
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:43pmD_Engineer
Report Post »“Kids” don’t go to college, adults do. There is no deprivation of “basic” education to children. College is not a right and furthermore it is not “basic education”, college by it‘s very definition is ’higher’ education. In-state tuition is for people whose parents have paid into the tax system in that state.
techengineer11
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:44pmNo way I even consider Perry as legitimate after learning of this…
Ron Paul
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Newt Gingrich
Herman Cain
Faith1029
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:02pmSo you would rather have the legal American citizens struggle financially to get an education, while the illegal freeloaders basically get a free ride. Come on. Just because they are here doesn’t mean we cater to their every whim. These kids should not be here in the first place. No, it’s not their fault the parents brought them here. None of them should be here if they didn’t go through our laws to be here legally. And we wonder why America is in decline. Deport them, parents and kids. Perry allowing this to happen in his state is only going to bring thousands of illegals here. I am so tired of people who do someting illegal in this country, only to get out of it by some loophole. I don’t care how long the illegals have been here, illegal is illegal!!!!!!! Why have laws if they are not followed???That’s why this country is going down the tubes fast.
Where is Perry’s heart for the American people? I wish someone would have said, Yes, I have a heart, for the legal, American citizens who abide by our laws.
I was going to vote for Perry but I have changed my mind. I want a President who obeys the laws of our land.
Report Post »Daddymac10
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:06pmAnd you are the prime definition of a socialist. Taking my money to fund those who break the law. You, Perry, and Obama should go out to dinner tonight to rethink your rhetoric..
Report Post »Ordie69
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:12pmThis topic has nothing at all to do with compassion or having a heart. It has all to do with principles. This is a nation of laws; period. As citizens we do not get to pick and choose which laws we want to follow without repercussions, so why in the world would any of you give illegal aliens a pass on something that would land you in jail. Not only are you giving them a pass, you are condoning the financial support of the situation on the backs of legal American citizens. What is wrong with expecting foreigners to obey the laws of our nation? I have been all around the world in the military and have had to abide by every other nations laws while there. Till my dying day, I will never understand this fallacious argument. It is very simple. Follow our laws, and reap the benefits of our great nation. Don’t follow our laws, and pay the penalties. Period. Oh, and for the kids, I am sorry that your parents are criminals, but that is not my problem nor should it be financially forced on me.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:15pmI may be missing something here, but we’re not talking about illegal kids, right? Just kids who were born in the US while their parents were here illegally?
Well, of course they should get in-state tuition charges. If they’re Texas citizens, no matter how it happened, they should qualify for the appropriate rate.
If they themselves are illegal immigrants, then no dice. But as Perry said, it was a state issue and Texas decided.
Report Post »Arkansas Thinker
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:20pmIllegals cost American citizens over 100 billion dollars each year. They take millions of jobs from Americans and they take millions of dollars out of our economy by sending it back to their home countries. Something has to be done to take away the perks for them to be here so they will self deport.
I think that immigration is wonderful. I want legal immigration. I also only want people who want to be Americans and not those people who are just here to get monetary gain. I know some illegals who are here working, using our hospitals, kids attending school, etc and they have no love for America. One lady said that the only reason she is here is for her kids to go to our schools. Her allegiance is still to her home country. That attitude weakens America.
I am compassionate and I don’t like it when Perry or anyone calls me a name because I disagree with them. It is not America’s job to educate or take care of people in/from other countries. America’s first responsibility is to help Americans. It is the job of individuals to help those in other countries. Millions of Americans donate our own personal money to charitable causes that help millions of people in other countries. That is the way it should be done. When government helps people by using American citizens money it gives the politicians more power. By giving instate tuition to illegals American citizens are charged more for their own college costs. The money has to come from someplace.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:47pmPerry might as well said if you don’t support illeagls getting state tuitions,you’re a racist. Because he damn sure sounded like an Obama supporter calling everyone heartless for using common sense.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:17pmBTW I absolutely loved Ron Pauls response regarding subsidies and tuition for illegals!
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:32pmSYMPHONIC: “D Engineer is RIGHT. So is Perry on this one. Most of you don’t seem to have any heart. Where’s the Christian in you?”
THE CHRISTIAN IN ME IS OBEYING THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
Report Post »ilovethiscountry
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:33pmA college education is not “basic education”. They get that in grammar and high school. If they are illegals thay shoul pay more than out of state tuition, they should pay out of country tuition.
Report Post »kysteelgirl
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:39pmYou are wrong, he is talking about college @ $22,000 per year. Us Texans pay $40 Million dollars per year for this benefit for illegals. Of course, k-12 is also free, we provide for 90 sum per cent of them free breakfast, free lunch, snacks for each night and week-ends. They do not pay to ride the school bus like American kids, $180 per semester. We furnish their school supplies, backpacks & clothes. My noece, a teacher says many are picked-up after schooln new Lexus, Mercedes & suburbans. A study (Center for Immigration Studies) came out this week that shows of the jobs added since 2007, 81% went to immigrants, both legal & illegal.
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Hard Tack
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:44pmI may not have a heart, but I am starting to wonder if Perry has a brain. America has enough of it’s own citizens on the take, we don‘t need half of Mexico’s too.
Let’s make a deal, ALL Mexicans get American citizenship when America gets ALL of Mexico. It would make a fine landfill. Has to be some natural resources down there we could use as well.
Report Post »Duck and cover
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:25pmWow, post a link to a now defunct debate poll and they remove all your posts.
Now I have to spam it, The truth has no agenda!!!
http://www.infowars.com/fox-news-pulls-poll-showing-ron-paul-debate-victory-claims-mitt-romney-won/
Report Post »rangerrebew
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:31pmYou must be a communist because you don’t support Americans first! Do you think that sounds stupid? It no more asinine than your comment. If I use worms for fishing I must hate animals by your logic. If I spend money on my family instead of illegals, I’m a racist by your definition and I would guess so are you. If I buy Christmas gifts for my family instead of illegals, I’m a racist, correct? What a completely stupid comment.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:37pmIf he gets the nomination, can Obama beat him up in a debate, over Perry giving in state tuition to non legal mexican kids?
He aint perfect, and none are. His state is on the border with mexico. he has a very large hispanic voting block. Different states have different problems.
Do not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Some of these things are not huge issuse. Can he beat Obama, and do you want Obama out of office?
Report Post »ColleenMP
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:30pmI’m sorry but I disagree with Perry. These children, their parents and other relatives that have come to this country illegally are NOT entitled to ANYTHING from this country. They are called illegal for a reason-they have come into our country and broken our laws because they have not followed the proper channels for achieving either residency or citizenship. This is a major problem in California, Arizona and Texas and for Perry to say we should educate these illegal children with our taxpayer money just tells me Perry has no respect for the laws of our land, nor respect for its citizens or legal residents. I, as one citizen taxpayer, born and raised here in San Diego, have continued to see the fraud perpetrated by the illegals at our schools and our welfare offices. Enough is enough, it’s time to stop the bleeding hearts like Perry from ruining this country through their “progressive” ideas. I want our citizens taken care of first, not illegals. Period.
Report Post »kathrynks
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:26pmSorry – illegal is ILLEGAL. If it happened in Mexico – the whole family would be jailed – THEN deported. We are not only broke, we’re in the hole to the tune of 14 TRILLION DOLLARS. We can’t AFFORD to care for our OWN kids like we need to. Sorry – charity begins at home. If we can’t give our own children from out-of-state IN state tuition – why should someone who is from out of COUNTRY get a break our own kids don’t.
For those that want to sponsor this – GREAT – YOU pay the difference in tuition for the illegals’ kids. Heck, they’re probably already on food stamps and welfare. We need to stop it all – it is just an incentive to KEEP them here and bring their extended families. We need to give them all a nice send off back to their LEGAL country. Let THEIR country coddle them.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 12:35amFederal Law requires that children of illegals be educated. TX state law requires that they be offered instate tuition. They must pay for it themselves and they can not get federal grants. So it is a TX issue.
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 1:26amWe’re talking about collage not grade school. Dumb A$$.
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 1:39amWhat Perry doesn’t get….a child of an illegal with a college degree is STILL an illegal with a degree who can’t be hired and is still on the government dole!!! Meanwhile, American kids can’t find jobs to pay for college, take out enormous student loans that can‘t be paid back when they have a degree because they can’t find work…that’s a LOSE!!! LOSE!!! Meanwhile, the illegal with a degree can take a fully paid for degree to another country and America benefits nothing!
Report Post »blindwithsight
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 3:32amthey can always join the military and recieve all the benifits our boys and girls do. Why must we make all the sacrifices, why cant they pay back the country they depend on like our children do.
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 9:22amtypical liberal I have a heart for ANY one that wants to go to school but Americans have to work or get a loan to go school so should they, What part of ILLEGAL don’t you understand, if you allow this what are we teaching American kids? that they take second place in our country
Report Post »shadowski
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 1:33pmOh brother. Let me point out one crucial fact. As soon as the illegals graduate with a degree they are STILL illegal. They can’t be hired. It’s illegal to hire them. Government subsidized education is an investment in America’s capital future. If the illegals can‘t work with their degree it’s a BAD investment. Bad use of tax-payer dollars.
The illegals can find a cheap community college to attend if they want a degree, and it won’t waste millions of taxpayer dollars.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 6:56pmForgive me Rick Perry, I Apologize for remarks I’ve made before learning more. My son told me you are only giving in-state tuition to those students who are taking the necessary steps to immigrate to the USA.
The problem is, you didn’t define this in your debate. I’m all for kids to get the chance to go to college and become legal immigrants too. We need more jobs that require more brain power. This will open up more jobs for them and for unskilled labor.
Report Post »I thought you were just handing out in-state tuition to any illegal who applied and I’m against that.
If they are working for citizenship, go for it and that does take Heart. Forgive me for misunderstanding and badmouthing you.
slimster
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 11:33pmYa, Rick Perry is for letting these illegals go to school at a price cheaper than actual US citizens will get, as long as they are pursuing their citizenship- Which means they will have to take Gardasil and Perry will earn a little more money.(Gardasil is on the list of vaccines immigrants must get.)
But really that’s not even the point. The point is Perry’s idea just reinforces the idea that it is ok for the illegals to be here, and more will come because of it. He is not enforcing the law, on the contrary, he is actually making people want to break the law even more.
Report Post »pianotech
Posted on September 25, 2011 at 9:12amIf you believe people not even in the country legally should pay lower tuition than legal citizens from a neighboring state, then you don’t have a brain.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:06amSince when are American taxpayers FORCED by the government to bear the responsibility of the actions of foreign criminals and their families?
Report Post »ccr
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:09amWOW! What a CONSERVATIVE Beck is promoting/protecting!!
Like Romney said……..PAY $100K for ILLEGALS to get a college education??? Oh, yes! That sounds like CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES.
TEA PARTY: Where ARE you standing up against this guy “parading” as a CONSERVATIVE???
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:30amRemember, this is the guy who was “shocked” at the Tea Party response to the Health Care question. He doesn’t truly grasp the conservative ideals of idependence and self-reliance over big-government.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:40amDo you have a heart? I do…….
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loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:49am@ccr
We had a local conservative talk show host ask the question, should Texans tell the nation what we really think of Rick Perry? Overwhelmingly the answer was yes. And it wasn’t a good thing for Rick Perry. I’ve only lived here maybe 6 years. I don’t like his stance on illegal immigration, I’m against the Trans Texas Corridor land grab. I will only vote for Perry if he is the Republican nominee.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:46amOK! This makes my blood boil. We give freely K-12 for illegals, teaching them English so they can learn. Our States spend plenty schooling these illegals. At first I was giving Perry credit that he only gave in-state tuition to those who had applied for citizenship. Not the case, so I’m tired of giving to law-breaking illegals what we can’t give to our own citizens of other States.
Plus, I understand, a huge amount is added to everyone’s tuition in Texas to pay for the illegals to get in-state tuition. Is this fair? Make other Texans pay a share to allow illegals to illegally attend college at a reduced rate? ‘Scuse me? These people are breaking the laws of the United States and we reward them? Send them & their parents home, across the border, then fence them out.
Perry has lost my support over this issue alone. I didn’t like the vaccine for girls, but this is way over the pale to encourage unlawful conduct and reward them. Hell yes, I have a heart, but not for this.
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smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:52pmCCR it’s coming the Tea Party much like me was unaware of Perry on alot of issues…NOT ANYMORE
Report Post »Zorro6821
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 5:29am@CCR…I am glad that someone else can see how the Beckster was promoting Perry. For all Beck’s so called do your research crap…well quess he did not do enough to find out the obvious RHINO sign stamped on Perrys head. Beck is all showbiz and theatrics. If you listen to his radio show and his TV show, you will notice a stark difference. Radio show, sucks…goofy mumble jumble, TV show, polished with theatrics and lots of crying. Beck is all business (good for him) and you should not take him too seriously.
Report Post »rickbob
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:05amAccording to Rick, I am now dead.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:27amI’m not voting for Perry – he helped Gore run against Reagan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLGt1O1wycQ
I sense a big-government snake-oil salesman under that Texas 10 gallon hat. I am uncommitted to Ron Paul, (like Michele better right now) but that link is to a video about Perry teaming up with Al “Global Warming” Gore.
Can we PLEASE find a REAL conservative?
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:55amReal Conservative is the one who protects Libery and Constitution – RON PAUL.
Perry has deflated himself today showing himself as being a liar, a corrupt politician and a not very smart man in general. He is much worse than Bush.
Romney? …..he is finished, if you see this bust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJgLXC66ttk
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Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:55amBLUE_SKY
Report Post »Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)
Belzar
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:25amIn the early 60s when I registered to vote in the South, I registered Repub. and was told at the time there were very few Repubs. If I wanted to vote I should register Dem. so I changed to Dem. I found out later there were two factions within the party,Conservative (Blue Dog Dems) and Liberal. I related to the conservative faction. I also thought Gore was a conservative at one time, not today. After the
Report Post »Dems became too liberal, I switched to Repub.
The-Monk
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:05amI still like Herman Cain.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:12amCain, Bachmann, Gingrich.
Cain – Honest, relates to people through common experience.
Bachmann – Integrity, courage, determination.
Gingrich – Knowledge, experience, candor even when it hurts.
All three should be part of the next administration. But most importantly we, as conservatives, have to gain conservative power of the senate and house for them to be effective.
Gaining control of congress should be no problem as I see the current progressive democrats increasingly throwing each other under the bus as election day comes closer, and Obama’s numbers diminish further.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:14amPerry is finished (after tonight) even though he doesn’t realize it yet.
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:51amAgree with you, too. Those were the winners for me, tonight – Cain/Bachmann/Gingrich
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:52amabsolutely, I like Herman Cain. I love is 9 9 9 plan. It gets money away from illegals in a legal way. I think he should have added in his policies a refusal to give aid (monetary and food) to illegals.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:15am@TSUNAMI-22
Report Post »Cain, Bachmann, Gingrich… Right on!
If push came to shove, I could vote for Romney. Never thought I’d say that.
Hannity’s post-debate interview w/ Bachmann exposed Bilderberg Rick’s Pay-to-Play cronyism. The stuff is beginning to hit the fan for Perry. Thankfully.
lillymckim
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:24am@ Monk
Report Post »Cain is so wonderfully “normal” isn’t he? a breath of fresh air…
TSUNAMI-22
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:39amI’ll tell you all what, though…….if this country votes like they always do and votes with the warm fuzzy feel good (Perry or Romney) instead of voting with their head and common sense, then we deserve whatever we get. We need someone who‘s going to lay political waste to the status quo and it’s going to take a concerted effort from the proper conservative minds in order to do it.
I feel as time closes towards the election that it will be more and more obvious to the average American what will be “best” for the long-term benefit of the country.
My fear now is that Hillary will jump in at the last minute and suck the democratic base into voting for her and the republican vote will be split due to so many candidates.
If Hillary gets in, we’re FINISHED ! Say goodbye to individual freedom and personal ownership of property in favor of “progressive takeover 2.0″.
Mark my words. Be very scared.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:47amNewt should be getting much more attention and support than he has gotten. He would make a strong president. He said he would write executive orders on the first day to undo everything Obama has done. I support him 100%. I just wish more people would get behind him and push him to the top.
Report Post »DORVAN
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:46pmPerry lost me too. I’m also needing to hear more from Newt about his position on immigation. I read on some Mexican pollitical site that Newt is for the “dream act” also. Agreed, he is experienced and very smart. I really like him, But if he is of the same mind as Perry on immigration, well no. We need to study all their positions very closely. I was not sold on Perry, Something simply seemed a bit phony about him. My opinion about christians supporting the immigrants is, Christians are to obey the law of the (their) land. We have heart , first for our law, and then to act as the good samaritian within the law of the land. By the way, our neighbors should ACT like the good samaritian who helped the injured man on the road. I think they must first become citizins the right way before they can be our neighbors. God bless America..
Report Post »bolsen00
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 2:08amOkay people! I’ve had it with the Cain and Gingrich naive crowd! Listen up folks! Gingrich’s political career was over years ago for good reasons. Gingrich was in Washington as Speaker of the House during Clinton’s Lewinsky scandal. Gingrich had as many affairs on both of his wives as Clinton on his wife. Gingrich’s current wife, Callista, he had a six year long affair while cheating on his second wife. Gingrich and Clinton were good friends and discussed their many conquests. During the impeacment, Clinton was tired of Gingrich criticizing him in public and told him to stop talking about it or he would make Gingrich’s affairs public. Gingrich left his first wife laying in her hospital bed after cancer surgery. There is no honor or honesty in him. He may be able to discuss policy, but personally he’s despicable and so is Callista. Cain is completely inexperienced and not eligible for the presidency. He doesn’t understand how to put together legislation, how to work with anlegislaturenor congress, how to balance a budget while being criticized by constituents, sending troops into harms way while dealing with natural disasters…Cain has no record in elected office, and the current president had the same problem and we‘ve seen how well that’s worked out. Cain is in the wrong place and needs to go back and run for mayor. Get some experience and run at the state level next. He’s jumped the gun.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 4:47pm@ bolsen00
For a second there I thought you were describing Obama.
Report Post »FaithfulFriend
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:03amWith the federal government out of education, which all candidates pretty much agreed on, issues like this will take care of themselves on a state by state basis. The liberal states will give all the freebies so families looking for freebies will flock to them, and those states will go broke and then go conservative in the end. It’s pointless for them to go broke, but I say let them. They’re allowed to.
Report Post »100 Million Patriots Standing
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:02am“”children who come into our state for no other reason than that they’ve been brought their through no fault of their own.”
no it is the fault of our government not securing the borders that allow the parents to cross.
these so called parents use children as a shield from legal action and to garner more benefits….and Perry would just fall in the long line of presidents favoring the Soros Open Society Institute AKA UN governance.
taken as a whole with his record of RINO activity- and most promoted by the MSM – I withdraw my hesitant support…..and I have a heart….but if the parents can bring them across illegally, they can take them back. I am just very opposed to all things illegal, no matter how you sugar coat it – illegal people of any nation sneaking into our country against the law—-are criminals….and those in support of them are aiding and abetting.
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:02amPerry is done!!!!
Report Post »Messenger4God
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:21amYeah, stick a fork in him ’cause he’s done. The man flip flops all over the place and contradicts himself. Just another politician…
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Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:16amI think his manner of speech got him tonight. He didn’t seem “with it”. I think his coaches dropped the ball on what he was supposed to be learning. Don’t they know, all you have to do is watch the news and get “teh talking points”. That’s what the questions are going to be over.
Report Post »Fed up in Bama
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:21amI was waiting to hear his explanation on some of these issues. He blew it. We should NOT be giving breaks to illegals over American citizens. At this point, it was the only big issue that kept me from contributing to his campaign. I’ll save my money for now.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:43am@fed
I have to admit that I closed my wallet tonight too based on that performance. The next debate will cement who I like for president.
I can tell you who I think doesn’t have a chance for POTUS. Paul, Bachman(n?), the governor from NM, Santorum and Cain (even though I like Cain personally, his previous statements would get him slaughtered in the general election). Although, Santorum has gotten a little feisty lately, he’s just too….ya know? For me the top contenders are Perry, Romney, Gingrich, Huntsman, with Cain being on the margin because I like his personality. If Cain had a 9-9-5 AMENDMENT plan, he would get even more support from me. Just tossing my ideas out there. =o)
Report Post »Fed up in Bama
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:07am@firebrand
Report Post »I hear ya. Personally, I’m waiting for Sarah.
WHY am I waiting for Sarah?
Took me a long time to support her…….I have a bad habit of questioning little things and listening to the media. BUT…I’m there now.
SHe’s been vetted like no other.
She believes as I believe.
How many others has had CSPAN run live feed of a speech? (and she’s not even running)
How many others have the media in a frenzy and followed around like a puppy dog?
She scares the ‘crap’ (can I say that?) out of the left and she‘s got the biggest ovaries I’ve ever seen.
I’d vote for her in a second.
But, in the end…no matter who the ppl choose, I’ll support them over Obama. Obama has to go!!!!
Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:28am@fed
I can’t get behind Palin. It‘s not that I don’t like her sassiness, but to win the GenE, you have to get votes from the people that lean left. The left HATES her like no other. They would vote for the opposition (Obama) out of spite. So (and this is just a personal opinion) a primary vote for Palin would waste a vote on a candidate that might have a better chance nationally.
Right now, as an independent who wants Obama gone, we have an advantage in that a possum in a tutu would get voted on by everyone on the right before Obama would get a single vote from them.. Basically, the right is tight and most of the true independents I know are leaning Repub or Paul. So now the mission is to survive through the primary and start trying to pull left voters away from their side. I’ve been leaning Perry because he would pull the Latino vote.
Report Post »AmericanDogMan
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:21amMitt Romney is anti- 2 amendment
anti personal freedom
a progressive
Who believes Massachusetts Socialized health care should be brought to the rest of the country!!
And you wanna talk about HPV and in state tuition!!
Wow
Done… I think not!! You sound like a ROMNEY MOLE
Report Post »Reptillica
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:59pmOuch.
Report Post »Bush Hating Conervatives make me sick
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:58pmI like Romney. I want Romney and Gingrich! Cain would have to have a spot in the administration. Perry just proved to me what I laready knew. He supported Gore in 88, and he sounds like a liberal calling us names! ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! Illegal breaking the law! We the American Citizen should not be punished for following the law! Illegals are destroying the country. Look at California!! That’s our Future!!!!
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:19amI agree and I think most Americans get it. Why should we pay for illegals on our dimes when our own people are suffering through these hard times? Bottom line: If you want to come into our country do it the right way and quit sneaking in through our back doors. You are breaking the laws and we are having to pay for it through our weak leadership in Washington.
Report Post »AmericanDogMan
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:24amMitt Romney is anti- 2 amendment
anti personal freedom
a progressive
Who believes Massachusetts Socialized health care should be brought to the rest of the country!!
Wow thats UN-AMerican (Support for Mitt Romney in any form is un-American)
Your an Obama supporter
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:56pmPerry is a RINO!!!
Report Post »My LADY is not in the Race YET….When She dose, She will have my time and money!!!!!
BARRACUDA 2012!!!!
libwhacker
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:06amThat’s Sarahcudda LOL!!!!! I do to i like sarah she is the real conservative.
Report Post »Messenger4God
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:12amYeah, I think she’s making sure she comes in with razor sharp teeth and make things very interesting. I wish her well.
Report Post »woodrowsux
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:44am@banjarmon- BINGO! You nailed it!! I was rooting for Perry , but he lost me ( and probably everyone in the TEA Party with this response on illegal immigration tomight. He‘s also stumbling and bumbling around too much and it’s his 3rd or 4th debate allready. Nobody is taking note or calling out Romney for hid AVOIDANCE of using the word REPEAL of Obamacare, rather he promises to allow states to “opt out”. This is the 5th debate in arow that he’s gotten away with this – are you freaking kidding me?? The time is right now for Sarah to jump in and Perry to step aside, and Bachmann had her chance – let Sarah in and she‘ll nail Romney on Obamacare crush Perry and ’NUDGE’ Bachmann off the stage and rip the nomination from these rinos and represent us TEA PARTIERS.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:56amPalin is too polarizing. It’s a guaranteed loss in the GenE. Lets get Obama out of office first and then camp out on the lawn at 1600 if we get a rhino that starts charging.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:57amwe’re sick of the LOTE…if the nominee is a RINO like perry or romney, I will be sitting this one out.
I’m already sick of the gutless republican house members….they had a chance to stop the spending and the chickened out…..
I’m sick and tired of the socialist-lite republicans.
Report Post »beverlee
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:54pmPerry lost a lot of people with that statement and I doubt he even understands why. Someone should buy him a clue.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:01amagree……. he sound’s like Bush sucking up to La Raza. He can take a hike and take the Mexicans with him
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:48pmI’m tired of being called names because of the positions I take… for example – heartless, xenophobic, hater, etc. It is expected from those on the ‘other side’. I certainly will not accept that from someone who is reaching out for my vote. Perry is not getting it.
Still sticking with Santorum.
Report Post »be1776
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:48pmPerry used a tired tactic of the Left that Glenn and pals often heckle. I hope they don’t hem and haw about it tomorrow. He is a liberal who dresses like a cowboy to fit in with his neighbors. NEXT….
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:46pmAnyone who wants to reward illegal invaders for their crimes is an enemy of America. Perry is toast. What a puke.
Report Post »squeaker
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:42pmPerry… You’re a RINO… You won’t get my vote. You’re too much like Obambam…. an empty suit…! To vote for Perry would just be more of the same we have NOW……….!!!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:51amhe’s another bush, and we sure don’t need that.
Report Post »stewartist
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:39pmI have a heart….I just don’t have the MONEY!!!!!
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:39pmDamn. I now have to find a new top pick! What part of “illegal” do so many people have so much trouble understanding???????? That comment is insane. Yes I understand it isn’t the childrens fault that their parents came here illragally. That does NOT make me responsible to help underwrite a higher education for them. Or even a K-12 education for that matter! Any thinking human person has to see that this is a false arguement.
Come here by the rules, play by the rules – WHICH ARE THE SAME FOR ALL LEGAL RESIDENTS – and take advantage of what our great nation has to offer. No problem there.
Whanever you start with ILLEGAL there is nothing else to talk about. Period. No education. No health care. Only enough food and water to get them back to where they belong.
Report Post »mom4times
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:54pmI’m with you on that one…..pretty sad that he would feel that way…..and even worse is that it’s getting into my state now…..ssn‘s aren’t required on the free/reduced lunch apps (if ya don’t have one) shhhhhh we won’t tell
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:58pmThat’s carzy too! Sorry for all the typos in my OP.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:48amWhat are you going to do with the kids then? Send them back to their home countries doomed to a life of poverty beyond poverty because you denied them even the level of education they would have received there and they can’t even read? Or let them stay here with pretty much no choice but to turn to a life of crime even though they probably started out as pretty decent kids with the potential to amount to something worthwhile?
Report Post »RavenGlenn
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:12am@ Chet
I’m going to do exactly this: Nothing. Their parents chose to come to this country illegally and their children shouldn’t get something special because of it. If you are a US citizen who is born in the ghetto…do you get special treatment and a hand up? If your parents are crack addicts, do we step in and give them everything for free?
No. It is the parents’ responsibility to raise their children as they see fit, and if they choose to do so in the process of committing a crime, then so be it. That was THEIR choice. Nobody gave me the option when I went to college to claim in-state tuition simply because my parents chose to have me live elsewhere. I didn’t get special treatment because I was just a child who had no choice in where I lived.
Illegal immigrants should NOT get special treatment. Especially when that treatment is better than what our own citizens get.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:52amI should have made myself clearer. I wasn’t really defending Mr. Perry’s policy on in state tuition. I just think your statement about denying kids even a basic K-12 education was way too harsh. What good does it do anybody to punish a child so cruelly for something that isn’t their fault?
Report Post »FLDeb
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:47amChet, you miss the point. In FL it is costing a fortune to educate these children k-12. At the detriment of our own children. Every school has to have X number of translators, we have to have special classes for these children because they do not speak English. Do you have any idea the drain this is putting on our limited resources?
Don’t even ask what this has done to all levels of our government. We are going to cut back on needed services because we need to spend so much money on translators and everything being in 2 languages? We do not have the resources to be doing all the bending over backwards that enables them to REMAIN MEXICAN CITIZENS living in America. Big difference if you ask me.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:05amIs it America’s fault that their parents are criminals?
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:24pmCHET: You send them back to their own country along with their parents. We have poverty here also. Insensitive? Tell that to all the homeless people on the streets who ARE citizens of the US. What part of illegal do you not understand? Your response is one of the reasons our country is on the decline. No one follows the law anymore. Maybe we should just abolish it altogether and then it’s every man for himself. Keep rewarding these people for their crimes, let them come here by the millions and see what happens to this country.
Is English still our official language?
Report Post »David Foxfire
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:39pmI’d say K through 12 and some vocational training, but not in-state tuition. It’ll be a lot better than seeing them turn to drugs and crime.
It‘s the ’children of’ part that is sticking with me: There’s jumping through the border, and then there’s being dragged across the border. These kids were dragged across by their illegal immigrant parents. They needn’t be catching the same hell as the parents.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:49pmTheir parents can drag them back across the border. They are Mexico’s problem not ours.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:36amAs long as you are willing to pick up the tab that would be just fine with me. But not a dime from me or most conservatives that I know.
Report Post »Kathleen3
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:37pmWith 40+ million Americans on food stamps, 1:5 on welfare, 14 million children going to bed hungry each night, and on any given night over 100,000 homeless veterans sleeping on the streets Mr. Perry should be advised that there is nothing noble in feeding illegal aliens while ours go hungry.
In my mind elected and appointed officials who aid and abet illegal aliens and then pass on the cost of $113 BILLION a year for services provided to them to already burdened Americans is someone who truly does not have a heart – nor a soul, spine, or conscience.
Report Post »team1blazer
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:35pmSorry Rick….NO tuition for ILLEGAL aliens. I’m with the panel and the people on this. Illegal is Illegal. We have to stop the bleeding.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:40pmI agree .. and I HAVE A HEART >> I FEEL for the LEGAL kids who can’t afford to go to college .. you know someone has to make up for this WELFARE!
TEA!
Report Post »Jennifer_D
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:14pm@ CATB
Thank you for stating the obvious. If we are going to be helping students with tuition lets help those who are LEGAL U.S. residents! Why should people who break laws to enter the U.S. be provided perks that should be reserved for legal U.S. residents? We welcome legal immigrants, but when you enter the U.S. illegally you shouldn’t be granted any perks!
What we have here is another instance of Rick Perry proving himself to be the RINO he is!
Report Post »Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:33pmThis is what the Tea Party has been worried about. Sorry Perry, we have big hearts but the country has empty wallets, get your hands out of ours.
Here are the concerns by the people as put out by Fox News: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/sep/instate_tuition_perry.html
Report Post »GrannyATL
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:28pmPerry thinks we’re all idiots. There’s a whale of a difference between “educating these children” and giving them in-state tuition. The children are already educated on the taxpayer’s dime from kindergarten through high school. In-state tuition refers to college. Let them cope the same way all of us LEGAL citizens cope — either by student loans or by hard work.
Report Post »Edct
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:35pmPerry is a fool and unAmerican to spend our dollars on Texas wet backe children. First, calling a baby born in America an citizen is an abomination of the constitution and not what the founding fathers had in mind. We should not be supporting a child just because an illegal managed to come here illegally and squat to have a baby. Perry must have sold out to the mexs. What should be done is deport all of them asap and stop programs that encourage them to come here and use our tax dollars because of an illegal act. Where is someone with some balls in this country with some common sense who will act to stop this bs before it sinks our culture and way of life?
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:28pmThis guy speaks from the heart; more so than the rest of the field. And of course, that could be to a fault. I like him best.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:06amSo do the democrats, liberals, and progressives.
Report Post »Gamaliel
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:00amIt’s fake compassion.
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:26pmGov Perry, you are wrong on this one. Criminal aliens should not come before those who have a right to be here.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:58pmI never heard him say that at all. Can almost guarantee that Governor Perry is not on the side of criminal aliens!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:55amby definition every illegal alien is a criminal.
Report Post »GrannyATL
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:25pmJust one more reason why Perry isn’t getting my vote.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:49ammine either.
Report Post »seanscythe
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:29amTo hell with perry he is a bush clone and will do the same with amnesty. I won’t vote for no one but Cain, he’s the only person you can trust. He’s a Citizen running for President.
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