Phony Taliban ‘Negotiator’ in Peace Talks Dupes NATO & Afghan Government
- Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:12am by
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KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — A man leading the Taliban side of peace talks with the Afghan government was an impersonator, an Afghan close to the negotiations said Tuesday, an embarrassing revelation for Afghan officials who have promoted reconciliation efforts as the best chance for ending the war.
Quickly moving to do damage control, President Hamid Karzai dismissed the reports as “propaganda,” saying neither he nor any other members of his government had ever met with a man named Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour — one of highest ranking members of the Taliban council leading the insurgency.
The report about the impostor first appeared in The New York Times and The Washington Post.
An Afghan familiar with the reconciliation efforts, speaking confirmed that a delegate claiming to be Mansour “was a fraud.” He spoke on condition of anonymity so as not to jeopardize his contacts with both sides.
Karzai denied that anybody named Akhtar Mohammad Mansour was ever brought by NATO to Afghanistan for meetings with him and other officials.
“I did not see Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour and Mullah Mansour did not come to Afghanistan. Don’t accept this news from the foreign press regarding meetings with the elders of the Taliban because most of them are propaganda,” Karzai said.
NATO, which was reportedly deeply involved in the meetings and purportedly flew the impostor to Kabul, did not immediately comment on the reports.
Mansour, a former civil aviation minister during Taliban rule, is a senior member of the Taliban’s ruling council in the Pakistani city of Quetta. That council, or shura, is run by Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar.
If confirmed, the claims that he was not really involved would be a blow to the Afghan government’s push to find a political resolution to the nine-year-old war. It also raised questions about the credibility of some NATO officials who have said they facilitated contacts between Taliban figures and Afghan officials.
According to the reports, the impostor met with Afghan and NATO officials three times — including once with Karzai — before they discovered he was not Mansour. He was allegedly paid to attend.
Mansour was a well-known Taliban leader and had a high profile job in the movement’s Cabinet. It is not clear why officials would have had such a difficult time identifying him. There are a number of former Taliban in parliament and in the 70-member High Peace Council recently formed by Karzai to find a political solution to the insurgency. It was reported that the man was believed to be a shopkeeper in Quetta.
Although quite senior in the Quetta Shura, Mansour was not promoted to second-in-command of the Quetta shura following last February’s arrest in Pakistan of Abdul Ghani Baradar. The Afghan Taliban’s No. 2 leader was arrested in a joint raid with the CIA.
Mansour was passed over in favor for Maulvi Zakir Qayyum — a former Guantanamo detainee. Released into Afghan custody in 2007, Qayyum was freed four months later and rejoined the Taliban.
In Pakistan last week President Barack Obama’s special representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke, played down reports about that senior Taliban leaders were holding talks with the Afghan government.
Gannon reported from Islamabad.
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Comments (57)
moreteaplease
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 1:26pm@13thGEN: Did you just start junior high school this year?
Report Post »Barry Soetoro
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 12:52pmMake no mistake, my Muslim brother is as legitimate a negotiator as I am.
Report Post »Bernard
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 12:51pmIf anything this article has pointed out is the gullibility of our intelligence agencies and our media. Obviously this is a propaganda “victory” for the Taliban who in recent days have been testing our capabilities in security and now our ability to discern what is real and what is false.
Report Post »To date they have won and we have lost. The ground realities is that the war raging in Afghanistan and Pakistan points to the fact that both the Kazai government of Afghanistan and the government of Pakistan along with the US are losing the battle and they know it.
As for security we are still in the dark as passengers are humiliated at airport checking points while our borders are wide open, inviting any and every terrorist to walk into the US. During the decades from the 1990′s the Taliban and the Al-Qaeda have proved their mettle against powers like Russia and now the US and NATO. To quote Osama Bin Laden after the 9/11 attack “we have time on our hands”. Unfortunately the US does not as we have already set “exit windows” even before the war is over, while our enemy has not. We have crippled our military with “the seven rules of engagement” while the Taliban and Al-Qaeda does not even recognize the rules of the Geneva conference. There is a saying “War begins with deceit” and to date Iran, Pakistan, the terrorist groups have run circles around us with deceit with an obvious preparation of another attack upon our shores. This will be inevitable as long as our intelligence service acts like a child willing to believe anything told to him.
powhatan
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 12:07pmwasn‘t Peter Seller’s in this movie?
Report Post »Dandylyon
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 11:30amYou boys are really on top of things.Have you checked out who your wifes and ……uah……………your mistress’s are latly??
They got the whole world in there hands.wheres the doom when you need it?ask the usurper.
Report Post »sdeakins
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 10:52amFake negotiator…WTF, it will be a fake peace settlement anyway.
Report Post »sdeakins
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 10:51amAbout time to declare victory and get the hell out of Poppyland.
Report Post »LukeAppling
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 10:06amObama speaks ebonics with his friends, speaks taliiibaaannn with those the Afghans and speaks lies to the rest of us. 39% approval Jimmie Carter here we come.
Report Post »sjohn70037
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:59amKarzai and NATO in the same room at the same time? Is it wise to put that much stupid in one place at one time. I mean there’s that whole space/time fabric thingy. Doesn’t stupid effect that?
Report Post »JohnnyJT
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:56amPhoney like the DemonCrates in Washington.
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:24amIf it weren’t so sad, I would laugh. An imposter? What tipped you off? Was it the red clown hair or the sad smile painted on his face?
Report Post »Don’t they check the credentials of the people they meet with? They are groping us in airports, but an imposter can walk in and hold “peace” talks with NATO.
mike_trivisonno
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:58amKabul was once Hindu land. Kandahar means “Alexander”
These land weren’t always occupied by muslim colonizers. They were Western lands, they were Hindu lands. And, as is 100% predictable, the moment these lands began interfacing with muslims, they were destroyed and we have the wastelands that they are today. They have not progressed one tiny step forward and a civilization since the muslim colonization/forced conversion was complete centuries ago.
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:55amsnicker-doodles are a fun and tasty way to share the holidays with family and friends. My friend Dan foster has a web site that promotes festiv holiday recepies or however you spell that. but they are good and there is even one for coco vanilla cruch cakes.
eteme
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:40amWholly smacks, 13 yr. old Degenerate American you have gone off your rocker haven’t you?? Now time your answers carefully…
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:51amit’s time for coffee talk people, talk about ginger ale versus coke. Coffee talk yall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
coffee talk is da‘ real deal fo’ yo dogs!
Dan Foster is my friend and We are Elkhart hardcore!
mike_trivisonno
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:51amWhere not fighting “terrorism”. We fight against Jihad. Jihad is an incredibly effective method of warfare that has brought down nation after nation allowing muslim colonization of our lands to proceed with all due haste. What took us 5,000 years to build, Islam has crippled in only 1,400 and will utterly destroy in another 500 if we do not stop them.
Jihad is real and it deadly serious.
Report Post »HumanDoing
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:46amLOL you cant make this S**T up and make it sound real. But it is ..
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:45amNatalie Holoway is alive!!!!!!!!! Wake Up America!!!!!!!!!!
john seven eighteen
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:49amNatalee, not Natalie, genius.
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:56amspelled right or wrong she is alive idiot! you are a backwards American and you need to get with the progressives or get out the way MO-RON
john seven eighteen
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:28am“…backwards American…”
Is that the position you take with your “friend” Dan Foster? I hope at least he changes things up for you from time to time and lets you be the “upside down Progressive”!! MO-RON!!
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:43amDan Foster could beat you up if he wanted to. He knows where you live. Keep that in mind.
john seven eighteen
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 10:00amI will certainly keep that in mind. BTW, ask Dan if he has any of that Obamacare yet. Actually, never mind, the hospitals here are of the “no pay, no service” variety.
Report Post »Sledgehammer
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 12:14pmyep, off your meds. for sure!
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 3:30pmSledge – crack is not a med.
Report Post »nathanhale
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:39amI am not the least bit surprised. Why do we continue to trust these people? And, yes. By “these people” I mean muslims. Look back through history and ask yourself if they have ever given us a reason to trust them. You will find that the answer is a profound NO. From the Galloping Hordes to the Barbary Pirates to the Moors to the Taliban. Anyone who has ever offered the Muslims help has come to regret it later on. The muslims have turned on anyone who has ever helped them with anything. Why, you ask?
Well, it’s easy. They turn on most of their “allies” because most of their “allies” aren’t muslim. So it’s okay to be dishonest, dishonorable, and murderous when it comes to them. We‘re not the first nation they’ve done this to. We just refuse to apply our history lessons in this case. I, for one, no longer trust muslims. I expect them to turn on me. I don’t care if they are “peaceful muslims”. One bad apple. Right? Well how about millions of bad apples.
It’s time to stop taking prisoners. It’s time to stop the interrogations. It’s time to fight terrorism as if we are FIGHTING TERRORISM. Otherwise, we have no business fighting a war.
TRUST NO ONE. DESTROY EVERYTHING. TAKE NO PRISONERS.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 4:59pmYou would think that after that Jordanian doctor blew himself up inside the CIA HQ and killed our most valuable and irreplaceable CIA agents, the Coalition Forces would have learned their lesson. But no. This degree of stupidity can only be credited to spiritual deceit. That’s what we opened ourselves to when we put Barack Hussein in charge of our country.
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:36amMy friend Dan Foster says that “A Clockwork Orange” is one of the best movies ever made. He said it should be in a world museum.
Report Post »HumanDoing
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:53amDepends how you define best, best to define how you feel and want to be, or best as a warning or example of how not to be? MY thought…yes its an art piece…its disturbing,and thought provoking.
Report Post »Would I say its the best movie…not exactly the term id use, Its an impact allegory. But to say I felt any elation while viewing it the several times I have watched, would not describe my experience.
NickDeringer
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:40amWe’re onto you, 13thgenerati0namerican, Glenn Beck hired you to say moronic things in order to attract people away from HoffPo and Daily KOS.
Glenn Beck is a jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenyusssssssssssssssssss!!
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 11:12amGosh, 13th, I figured you and Lt. Dan would be “Silence Of The Lambs” types…..also, lots of movies about gladiators……
Report Post »Sledgehammer
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 12:12pmNew comer, your off your meds again, aren’t you!
Report Post »politics101
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:34amHow incompetent is this Administration?
Country on verge of bankruptcy.
Iran going nuclear.
Fed devaluing the $ at breakneck speed.
60,000 TSA employees “feeling up” the American citizens.
0 troops on the border.
All while the Administration is focused on “don’t ask…don’t tell“ and meeting with fake ”Taliban-ees”.
Amateur Hour.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:19amAmateur hour? Kindergarten is more like it!
Report Post »john seven eighteen
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:28amAll this shows is that there will never, ever be peace in the Middle East, despite the valiant efforts of our incredible military men and women. These “people” know nothing but war and hatred and we cannot think that we can change that in the course of a decade of war. They will live on far longer than we will have a military presence over there. It is their culture and they embrace it. It’s like them invading us and thinking they could get us to stop believing in God. Not gonna happen.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:25amSurprised he didn’t come in wired with a explosives.
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:28amSurprised his name is’nt habib
snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:56am@Grandmaof5
The taliban and their supporters seem to understand they do not need explosives to get their point across where Obama is concerned. He fell for this dupe con-game as well. With Afghanistan turned into a fiasco, and now N Korea turning up the temperature, we soon will see what he is able to handle next before the inevitable breakdown he will have.
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:25amThat’s why Muslims have Baby muslims. Cannon fodder and instant martyerita mix. Notice the brave adult Muslims never blow themselves up. Dan Foster told me this
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 4:33pmTrue, Sailor. Adult recruiters indoctrinate their kids and take advantage of their youthful zeal. Imams don’t blow themselves up, either. Put a knife to their throat, and they will pee themselves and beg for their lives.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:23amTo say the anyone is “duped” by Jihad after all we have seen is to willfully refuse the existence of the same. What else can one expect from muslims engaged in jihad in an effort to spread Islam?
Negotiating in goof faith? That is a Western concept not an Islamic one. We project our system of thinking onto them at our own peril.
Jihad is real.
Report Post »aLinedog
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 11:01amThis is true. They are allowed to lie to ‘the infidel’ if it furthers the aims of ‘allah’. A religion that spreads ‘love and peace’ says it is ok to lie? Indeed, encourages it? Who is the prince of lies again? I wonder if Muhammed translates to Lucifer? (To the unlikely muslim reader: Yeah, I am insulting your precious ‘prophet)’ He was also a pedophile. Furthermore, he encourages muslims to be pedophiles… WTF?! Are we seriously allowing this disease of the soul to fester in our country?
Report Post »jimmythebullet
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 11:57ammike-absolute truth,well said.
Report Post »as long as we look at this region of the world through western colored glasses,nothing is going to change,except our body count.these people understand two things-strength and weakness.lopping off heads is strength,diplomacy is weakness.
if memory serves,alexander the great was the only one to control this region since the silk route was established.he sure as hell didn’t do it with books and group hugs or insane “rules of engagement”.these ROEs,again a western concept,are putting our troops in an impossible situation.we ask them to win an ass kicking contest with ONE leg.
sun tzu said no nation ever benefitted from a protracted war.if you decide to go to war,go with all you have and end it ASAP.
i,like many people,feel we need to unshackle our warriors and let them do what they do best,kick ass.otherwise,bring ‘em home.
“praise the Lord and pass the ammo”
jimmy “the bullet”
Psalm 144:1-15
kryptonite
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 3:57pmMike, spot on! For starters, America needs to stop debating whether Obama is a Muslim or not. According to Islamic law, he is. The Muslim world considers him a Muslim, and that is the bottom line. If we accept that fact, then we will start to understand many of his moves.
Report Post »iwalkalone
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:20amNow was that Taliban or Taaaaahwwleebaawn? Obama was negotiating with Taaaahwleeebahwn in paawhkeeestaaaawn. Being Moslem and a tourist there he knows more than the rest of us. Wasnt that his foreign affairs experience that wowed the ********?
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 11:02amIt’s ok……the joke is really on the Taliban…..our delegation to the peace meetings was led by our own impersonator, Rupaul…….it was Bubba Clinton’s idea……
Report Post »El Paco
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 11:28amWe should just get that Zanzibar fellow to be their negotiator.
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:17amNothing to see here, move along, folks.
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 8:29am2nd,eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:10amOur phoney, jug eared , president should go over and have an Imposter summit with this dope. Even this joker would make a fool of the man child. How far will Barry bow to Mullah Monseur. Probably all the way to his knees.. Barry will be sure to give him a Happy Ending.
Report Post »Shurmus
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:19amUhhhh…okay. Might as well use this spot to spread the word…
http://www.slugbuddies.com
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:46amAH HA HA HA HA, Even they think they all look alike.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 11:26amWell on a positive note …
This Christmas we would like to thank the brave men and women who selflessly put their lives on the line every day for us. This Holiday season please think about those who have sacrificed for us. Offer to help a military family, send a gift package to a soldier, or just let them know you appreciate their service. Everything you have, all of your freedoms are because of brave men and women who are willing to do what is necessary and sacrifice what most of us would not.
A Salute to our Troops … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIoEUTqhYmA
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