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Pit Bulls Rip Arms Off 74-Year-Old Disabled Florida Veteran
- Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:51am by
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HAWTHORNE, Fla. — An elderly man is in a hospital in Gainesville with severe injuries after his neighbor’s dogs attacked him. His daughter tells Action News the next 48 hours are critical.
Roy McSweeney, 74, was in the front yard of his Old Hawthorne Road home in Putnam County Friday morning, when two pit bulls attacked the disabled veteran.
After undergoing hours of surgery, McSweeney’s right arm has been removed, and his face has been badly damaged. Doctors are still working to reattach his left arm according to family.
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Comments (701)
llotus
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:42amIt doesnt help the breed that they are being taught to kill. The pit is designed to be a killing machine by nature. I know it isnt the fault of the dog but, they should be outlawed. The offence of the dog in full should be put directly on the owners back. Prosecute accordingly. It would not take many cases of this to make people think about having a dog that can send them to prison for life. Its not only pits, to be fare. Too many people have dogs that they alow to rome free. Two or three dogs together make a pack, and a pack is capable of the same thing a pit is. Dog responsiblity would stop this. Lotus.
Report Post »cypat
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:15pmReally, the breed (pitbulls) aren’t the biggest dog attack problem??? That‘s like saying we shouldn’t view young, muslim men as potential terrorists..Inbreeding. Or is it the religion’s fault?
Report Post »GOOOJOOO
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:42amA growing archive of U.S. fatal pit bull maulings dating back to 1877victim #284
Margaret Salcedo
1.April 2011, Sierra County, NM
Margaret Salcedo, 48
Fatal dog attack: pit bulls
2.April 2011, Carter County, OK
Virgil Cantrell, 50
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
3.March 2011, San Bernardino County, CA
Jennie Erquiaga, 47
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
4.February 2011, Kalamazoo County, MI
Baby John Doe, < 1
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
5.January 2011, Pontotoc County, MS
Ronnie Waldo, 51
Fatal dog attack: pit bulls
6.January 2011, Union County, NC
Makayla Woodard, 5
Fatal dog attack: pit bulls
7.January 2011, Colusa County, CA
Linda Leal, 51
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
8.December 2010, Riverside County, CA
Edward Mitchell, 67
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
9.November 2010, Dillon County, SC
Justin Lane, 25
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
10.November 2010, Rusk County, TX
Kaden Muckleroy, 2
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
11.November 2010, Riverside County, CA
Christina Casey, 53
Fatal dog attack: pit bulls
12.October 2010, Duval County, FL
Justin Valentin, < 1
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
13.October 2010, Callaway County, MO
Rev. John Reynolds, 84
Fatal dog attack: pit bulls
14.September 2010, McMinn County, TN
Mattie Daugherty, 85
Fatal dog attack: pit bull
15.August 2010, Marshall County, IL
Jason Walter, 7
Fatal pack attack involving pit bulls
16.August 2010, Calaveras County, CA
Report Post »Jerry Yates, 69
Fatal dog attack: pit bulls
mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:06pmStray Pit Bull Saves Woman, Child From Attacker
Report Post »http://www.thedogfiles.com/2011/02/03/stray-pit-bull-saves-woman-child-from-attacker/
the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:07pmCorrelation is not Causation..
If all Rapist Drove Blue cars, does that mean all people that drive blue cars are rapist?
It is not a hidden fact that animal abusers are predisposed to own and abuse Pit Bulls, so it should not be a shock that many Pit Bulls are involved in animal attacks.
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:14pmBy the way, your pitbull attack archive is notorious for lumping all breeds together and calling them pit bulls.
Report Post »A lot of those attacks reported as being perpetuated by pit bulls are not.
And in the ER i have treated more people from cat attacks than pit bulls.
Lets hear you start crying about rounding up and killing all the cats?
the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:25pm@MR_E_M_T — Kinda like all Guns are AK47′s?????
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:00pm@the_ancient pretty much.
Report Post »Or all guns are assault weapons.
Captain Crunch
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:45pmDo we go after the breed or the owner/trainer?
Do we go after the drunk driver or the bar owner?
There’s enough responsibility for both. We need to outlaw all drunk dog breeders who take their dogs out for a night on the town to the local bar. It’s the bar tender who bit that man, not my dog!
Report Post »blondenblueeyed
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:01pmMy husband nearly died when a paint mare he was training went on a rampage bucking him off then did a ‘rain dance’ on his head as he laid on the ground unconscious. While I would have sent the mare to the ‘killers’ to make a thousand cats happy, the owners wanted to keep her and ‘breed’ her
Report Post »to a stallion for yet another bucking maverick. Just as there are ‘stupid’ mare owners, there are ‘stupid’ dog owners. Some people aren’t qualified to own a goldfish much less an animal than can be dangerous in certain situations. Such as the case with these pit bulls. It is the owners’ fault. The animals need to be removed and put to sleep as they are not to be trusted. The owner needs to be SUED for everything for being negligent! Sorry, it’s called consequences! If we allowed one of our stallions or our bulls to run amok and someone was hurt the sheriff would be hunting OUR heads and the lawyers our pocketbook. Animals sometimes ACT like ANIMALS….imagine that. If you can’t be responsible and take care of them properly INcluding making sure they are secured then you do not deserve to have them.
Dannowood
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:40amThis is truly sad. But it’s the owners fault not the dogs. I live in the country and my neighbor has a pit. That dog is the biggest whimp I have ever seen. I also have chickens, ducks and geese. There are no fences and all the critters roam at will. However I made it a point to make the geese MEAN. They will attack and bite any dog or human that even comes close to the chickens. It’s hillarious watching those geese chase after the pitbull. I live in the south, and I do not have any bugs on the property. I get eggs, meat and have no reason to call Terminex. Garden is fertil, productive and bug free. It’s the owner, not the dog
Report Post »LastCallForEmpathy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:39amAfter all these years of mankinds abuse towards GODS creatures here on earth, I think if they all turned on us and killed every last human on earth it would be justified…And if you disagree with me then you are worse than hitler…
Report Post »USA4EVER
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:01pmLastcallforempathy You Really piss me off. One because your wrong about your statement about Pit Bulls. and Two most importantly something you can’t control but is you are either born with Common Sense or your Not…Sorry but you were not….So I guess I shouldn’t be mad at you for that one……You could try to have some though couldn’t YOU????????NO COMMON SENSE 4 U!!!!!!!!
Report Post »LastCallForEmpathy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:22pmMy comment was a clear counterdiction for personal amusement…I want to thank you for the extra giggles you have supplied…HITLER…
Report Post »USA4EVER
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:35pmJust like I said in my previous Writing! NCS4U
Report Post »Zcat
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:37amPoor guy.
Report Post »jas0707
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:36amPit Bulls have been breed for dog fighting for many generations. As a result, even your cute, good with the children have that genetic instinct. If that gene were to be set off any P.B. can easily become a killer. Sad but true. That is one dog that nobody should ever have around their house particularly with kids.
Report Post »poppavein
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:02pmPits were bred for dog fighting. They were culled if they showed any aggression towards people.
The current problem is they are being breed to be aggressive against people; this could happen with any breed. Its just that Pits are more popular due to their looks.
Cull the aggressive lines, prosecute the criminal owners. Don’t penalize the innocent due to the acts of criminals.
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:35amJust did a little digging.
Wish whoever posted this on the blaze had bothered with about 5 minutes of internet research
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20110610/ARTICLES/110619976/0/NEWS?p=2&tc=pg
The dogs breed is not determined, they are calling them pit bulls or mixed pit bull breeds.
Report Post »The owner of the dogs has a history of letting her dogs roam free and the dogs had a history of attacking people.
The local news article has more information and better sources than what is posted here on The Blaze
TumbleBumble
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:17pmThank you for doing a little leg work. Funny how this post didn’t have a single reply. Those who are bent on hating pitbulls are angry to read what you have found, I am sure.
It is disappointing to see the lack of integrity by the Blaze.
Report Post »wethepeoplepress
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:30amPut down all Pit Bulls because of the actions of a few?
That’s funny, and what of the pit bull that was saved from the pound and ended up being a great pet, guardian, and friend. In fact the dog warded off burglars and took a stab wound when the man of the house was away from his wife and two young children possibly saving the families life.
How about people take responsibility for their actions. How about laws being enforced to curb this type of backyard breeding by degenerate losers who breed to fight and create the bad apples. Lets stick them in jail and take all of their valuable possessions, it would serve the public better than sticking non violent dope smokers in jail and confiscating their belongings. Oh, thats right, most dope smokers have money and are cacausian while most breeders who fight pits are Black and Hispanic, looks like it comes donw to political correctness again, imagine that.
Face it, we are passed the stupidity threshold, all Americans are saturated with ignorance due to the media, the Republic is lost, if you vote for a RINO like you did last time with McAmnesty you deserve what You get.
Ron Paul / Allen West or Cain 2012
Bachman / Allen West or Cain 2012
Don‘t be an enabler to business as usual bu supporting the RINO’s.. At least these tickets would be beholden to the constitution more so than the rest, in the end it is a lesser of two evils, no?
Report Post »LastAmerican
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:28amI would say it’s pack mentality. Only allow one pit per owner. It always seems there are more than one dog when something really bad happens. Owners are totally responsible. Hope you pull through vet. If he doesn’t are the owners up for manslaughter? Should be.
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:24amClaiming pit bulls are “genetically programed” for “genetically programmed for random & unprovoked vicious attacks.” displays the most typical and ignorant mindset found of any critic of any discussion.
Report Post »Fact is you have to train and teach a dog to to be vicious.
The amount of training it takes to teach a pitbull this is only considered abuse.
The dog has to be chained, isolated, food with held so they are always hungry, and whipped. I have known people who fed pit bulls gun powder to “make them more mean”
orkydorky
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:58pmThat is BS and simply is not true!
Report Post »jdvo31
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:20amFine, cover the owners in raw meat and lock them in a room with their own dogs for an hour or two. Perhaps then there will be some enlightened attitudes about these bred for violence killers.
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:20amHellen Keller owned a pit bull.
Report Post »As well as Theodore Roosevelt.
Petey from the Lttle Rascals TV show was a pit bull.
Look up Sgt Stubby, he was a renowned canine hero, decorated after saving soldiers lives during World War I, a pit bull.
Pit Bulls are the favored breed of Ceasar Milan on the Dog Whisperer. Funny how seldom pit bulls are the topic of his shows.
Pit Bulls make some of the best service dogs.
They are called “the nanny dog” due to their NATURAL affection towards children.
There are many different breeds of dogs all get slapped with the title of “aggressive” and all because of owners who should have never been allowed to have a dog in the first place.
And there are a lot of dog attacks where the breed is assumed to be pit bull, and later found not to be.
Any dog can turn on their master, and the ones most common are smaller breeds such as chiuhaha’s and other “toy” dogs.
SO before you go out pit bull hunting, you may want to remember there are good ones out there, and before you shoot mine, think about the fact I am armed, I live in a Castle Law state, and shooting at my dog will be the worst mistake anyone ever makes.
10th MTN DIV SCOUT
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:19pmthank you couldnt have worded it better…my wife has a service animal pit bull…and she can speed dial 911…not to mention loves kids and the park…
Report Post »locedupaztec
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:58pmPray youre a better shot than who’s doing the shooting
Report Post »NanaLaLa
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:43pmI am really sorry, but I still would not feel safe having my grandchildren play in our own yard if there were a pit bull in the neighborhood.
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:16pm@ lucid
Report Post »Someone shoots my dog, they better pray I just shoot them and not revert to the ways of my ancestors.
freedomofspeech
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:18amknow the breed.
Report Post »The Divided States of America
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:16ami say take all the owners and their pit bull dogs, place them all on an island with no food and let the party start !!!
Report Post »Dannowood
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:49amSounds like an idea for a TV reality show.
Report Post »APROUDVETERAN
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:14pmAGREED !! And on the other side of the same island put all the druggies and alcoholics and libs..
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:31pmTHE DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA ~
Okay, then what would you expect to happen? Protecting my cowardly pitbull from things that go bump in the night is what I would be doing.
I would do this to prove a point to those of you who are so clueless.
APROUDVETERAN ~
Druggies, alcoholics, and libs sound pretty good right now. I think I’d rather stand along side of them than someone who claims to be a proud veteran and hates me because of the breed of dog I have chosen to own. Mind boggling.
Report Post »TheRev1776
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:16pmTumble: So yours is terrified of every noise too huh ? Mine will growl and bark at a noise and run to her crate….I spend a few minutes of laughing before calling her back out to sit with my and the wife. Pits, I’ve noticed anyways, are big scared cats really….kind of funny for the most hated, thug life dog out there huh ?
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:52pmTHEREV1776 ~ You aren’t kidding! lol! She gives me more hard laughs than anything else. I love it when she falls asleep and something touches her, like the remote slides down off the arm of the couch or the broom behind the door tips over… she flies away with her tail tucked between her legs! Ha ha ha! (I can picture you and your wife laughing just like my husband and I do) :D
I really wish, with all my heart, that people would spend some time with one. They should go to a shelter and ask the kennel attendants about them and what they think about their temperament.
That’s where I got Bumble. She had passed her date to be euthanized because the attendants had asked for a reprieve. Just for a few days. That’s when I happened in there. I was looking for an Aussie Shepherd but came out with an American Staffordshire! I am such a sucker. You cannot help but love them when you get to know them.
Report Post »Thelma Lightspeed
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:16amIn my encounters with Pit Bull dogs and Pit Bull dog owners they both seem to have had about the same level of intelligence.
I hope that gentleman pulls through.
Report Post »flrick
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:15amThe guy was in his own yard and the dogs attacked him? Why weren’t they tied up or fenced in? The dogs owner better have good insurance, the lawyers are already salivating like pit bulls.
Report Post »NanaLaLa
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:39pmFLICK
Report Post »I was going to say the same thing. The man was in his own yard, for goodness sake! I would not want to live next door to a pit bull and his owner, I would not feel safe nor would I allow my grandchildren to play in the yard (even if it was fenced).
Comment on another breed – Cocker Spaniels; I have owned two. We had to get rid of both the dogs because they were aggressive and I can tell you we raised them in a very loving home and DID not teach them to be aggressive. I loved my dogs and they were good with my children but others no, both dogs were territorial; anyone walking or riding a bicycle in front of the house were confronted by my “good loveable” dog. I cried but I did what had to be done for the sake of the people in my neighborhood.
RgnCnsrv1
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:13amVery sad but typical Hawthorne. Every other thug in Hawethorne has pit bulls!
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:06pmAha, so only the “thugs” in Hawthorne have aggressive pitbulls?
Interesting coincidence /sarc
These same people who hustle drugs and collect welfare checks while living in Section VIII are the very people who have turned pitbulls into aggressive monsters. This is what happens when you divorce people of the consequences of irresponsibility: more irresponsibility.
Report Post »ARealCharliesAngel
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:12amSuch a tragedy! I hope he pulls through okay and the dog owners are held fully responsible.
This is a perfect example of the value of a permit to carry a personal weapon.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:12pmMy hope is that people sue and the courts impose “fines” and restitution so high that these pit bull people are ruined financially for life. That seems to be the only way to rid society of these killers .. unfortunately many are owned by the lowest of the low and will never have anything of value to take or “legal” money to confiscate (drug dealers don’t declare “income”).
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:15pmSorry, while I am a STRONG supporter of the Right to carry, A Gun is USELESS in a god attack.
A Edged Weapon would be FAR FAR FAR FAR more effective, or Papper Spray 10000X more effective on Dogs then on Humans…
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:57pm“USELESS in a god attack.”
When God attacks all weapons would be useless
Sorry couldn’t resist.
Report Post »upstateny
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:10amThis is what happens when people indiscriminately breed dogs. I had to import my Rottweiler from over seas. The blood lines in America have for the most part been destroyed for profit. Just ask your local PD where their dogs came from. Most are brought in from over seas.
Report Post »Plunger
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:09amAll dogs bite. It’s just a matter of when.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:07amThe sad part is there are good pit bulls. The problem is the irresposible breeding. Fooish people breed these dogs with no understanding of genetic traits-for good and bad, and bring into the world the worst traits and genes. We know who does this, and the dog breed suffers for it. This man has suffered from the results of these backyard breeders. It would take a great deal of “weeding” to get the breed repaired. Sadly people will continue to suffer for the fool’s misdeads, and the good dogs will suffer too. I will keep this man and his family in my prayers
Report Post »Jorge
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:11amYou just like every other idiot Pit Bull owner refuses to look at the facts about dog maulings and the breeds responsible. There are plenty of other kind of dogs to won rather than a Pit Bull.
Report Post »NatalieF
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:17amWho are you calling idiot? What part of Jenny‘s comment didn’t you understand? Some advice – get proper command of the English language before calling someone else an idiot.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:17amJenny Lind
What are the genetic traits for “Good and Evil”? I know nothing about breeding just curious. Thanks
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:22amI do not own a pit bull,and never have. Understanding breeding and what has ruined this breed is not condoning the breed’s behavior. Like I said-it would take a great deal of weeding to get the original breed back. They were once called the “nanny” breed for their love of children. Look who owns them to see what has ruined this once good breed.
Report Post »TheRev1776
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:10pmSissy Katz look up the experiment done by the Russians with foxes. They managed to breed out the aggressive traits and created two kinds of foxes, one really docile and approachable and one too crazy to even look at without violent outbursts. Traits can be singled out and bred. Same way we do it with people.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:02pmJorge, you reFUSE to look at the statistics on assualt weapons. Seriously, assault weapons are far more deadly than regular “sporting” weapons or competition pistols. The statistics prove this. If you get shot by a .22, it is unlikely to kill you. But if you get shot with an AR-15, it will most certainly kill you. Nevermind all the responsible gun owners out there, we should outlaw ALL assault weapons because of the few irresponsible people that shoot them wildly into the air at the 4th of July…
/sarc
Report Post »patriot308
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:15pmTo dr funk;
Hey stupid; trying to sound like you have a clue: An AR15 is a .22……. .223 to be exact. If you really did know anything about “assault rifles”, or guns in general you would know that even .22 rimfire is slightly larger than .220 So when you start making up statistics; remember 97% of all statistics are made up, and 50% of all posters who use statistics…… are full of s**t.
And BTW: as posted earlier; that “all dogs are the same species, with different breeds being (races)”.
Yeah, every time I’m in my yard…. Jose across the street is pointing at some birds in the bushes and when I play golf with Yu So Fat; he runs after my ball and brings it back. For some reason they both like it when someone scratchs behind their ears. How about we just treat every situation differently and put the blame on the one responsible, not a blanket (fascist) policy.
And when will the armless man’s relatives feed the dogowner to the gators; I’ll bring the popcorn.
Report Post »krenshau
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:01pm@PATRIOT308
You’re the one that stupid. Aside from the technical fact that the NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT (.22 vs. .223), that number only refers to the diameter of the bullet. A .223 round will not fit in a .22 rifle. It is longer and has more powder. It also has a faster muzzle velocity. A AR-15 cannot fire a .22 bullet (without a conversion kit) because all the .22 rounds won’t fit properly, that includes .22 short, .22, .22 long rifle, .22 B and .22 super B.
I’m guessing that your lack of knowledge on firearms is equally matched by your lack of knowledge regarding dogs. Maybe, you should read a book.
Report Post »patriot308
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 7:39pmto Kenawhatever
they must have censored my first response to you. Imagine that. I am a 22 yr master gunsmith, and have taught at, NRA short term schools. (maybe YOU should take a class) Did you read dr. drunks post ????? He claimed that “assault rifles” are far more dangerous than “sporting” weapons. Where did I say anything about FPS or case pressure or anything but….. the .223 win. has a bullet diam. of .224-.225 what we commonly refer to as .22′s has a bullet diam. of .222-.224 this is the tough part read slowly….. They are both .22′s !!!!!!!!!!!! Even the bullet weight is in the same range, plus or minus. You are still shooting a fast .22 !!! Case closed !! Now….. are you saying that this uninformed idiot, claiming how dangerous an “assault weapon” is correct. Maybe you would rather get shot with a .308, .06, 7mm, .270, .300 mag. Do you understand now ???
And my only comments on dogs was the obvious one…… Don’t count out basic breed instincts, don’t try to equate it to humans, and lets decide on a issue by issue basis. Blame it on the dogs owner and fix any future problems. Did I type too fast for you ????
Report Post »Chasvs391
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:06amPut them ALL Down. And throw in ALL the Muslim DOGs as Well! Save the World!
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:31amChasvs391
??????
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:43pmYeah! Hooray Canine Eugenics!!!
Report Post »MATT
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:06amAnd you can bet the damn dogs are still alive AND their stupid owner is defending them as really good dogs!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:19pmNO, they were put down and are being tested for rabies.
Report Post »Read the original article….
mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:18pmActually according to the news and neighbor reports, i doubt the owners know what kind of dogs they owned since they neglected them.
Report Post »Don’t worry, they destroyed the dogs who were neglected and mistreated after they attacked yet another person.
Liberacrats
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:40pmOut Lawing Pit Bulls. Does this mean rounding up This particular breed? Going door to door taking, dog after dog, bring them to a giant oven of sorts and execute each and every pit bull living in america. Hitler style..
Well to all of you who want to “Outlaw Pit Bulls” I have to tell you my best friend in the world is a Pit Bull..
You all should be ashamed. This is descusting.. Im a Christian…
Report Post »kestrel27
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:02amPersonally, I’d just as soon shoot Pit Bulls. There are no reasons to have one and the dogs themselves are ticking time bombs. The people that own them, love all the attention they get, because it’s like “Look at me, look at me, I’m in control of this ultra dangerous dog”. Of course with today’s Youtube mentality of low accomplishments and soaring self esteem, what can you expect?
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:43pmI’m truly so sorry for this poor man and his family to go through this. I’m mortified that people have turned this breed into a killing machine and you never know when or what makes them decide to turn on people. Hope that ball player Vick realizes he was a party to keeping the fighting breed going. The thought of Vick still makes me cringe using little dogs to teach killing dogs to rip them apart.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:18pmA year ago my dog was attacked by a pit bull , he was getting his morning walk when a pit bull came from the back in a sneak attack without any barking or warning & he got my dog by the neck .
Report Post »After a $3200 bill somehow my dog did survive .
To the owners who say that it‘s not the dog it’s the owner I tell you this , when I see a pit bull coming towards me I’m not gonna test my luck & wonder if the owners are good or bad people .
& please stop comparing pit bulls to guns , a gun won’t fire unless someone pulls the trigger .
The official numbers of deadly pit bull attacks are a great proof that they are timebombs .
The mixture of this breed was purposely mixed for only one reason : dog fights & sadly they were used for gambling & some low life are still doing it ’till this day .
All of the pit bull owners who were involved in a deadly attack by their dog against another family member said the same thing ” He was so good with the kids he even slept with the kids we didn’t see this one coming “
orkydorky
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:36pmI’ve trained dogs for years and one thing I have learned is different breeds have different natural instincts.
Report Post »The instincts of the Pit Bull are going to be there no matter who owns the animal or how it’s taken care of, and I will say that abused animals are more likely to go off the deep end and injure someone, but don‘t think for a moment that you are completely safe from one of these dogs just because you’ve never abused the animal, it’s simply not true! I’m sure the owner of the dogs in the posting thought their dogs were quite safe too! Tell it to the one armed man!
Entropy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:58pmI am sure that some pitbulls are nice animals. But, notice that the only people that ever defend them are those folks that own them. Everybody else is terrified of them. The only reason many people own them is to inflate own sense of “toughness” or “worth” because they are lacking it themselves. But, I do sympathize for the good animals and responsible owners. And, also with the “get govt out of my face” argument.
Report Post »TheRev1776
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:03pmPit bulls got their name from a sport called ratting. They were placed in a Pit and a large number of rats were place in there with it. The most number of rats killed was the winning dog. That is where the pit came in their names, they are never bred to fight dogs, just rats, which is a Terrier trait, the bull trait came from bull baiting. They also used the Bull Terrier to control rats during the bubonic plague on farm lands. Pete was a Bull Terrier from the little Rascal, in fact some affluent used the pit as a baby defender to ensure kidnapping was kept at bay. This dog isn’t what many think, some should read their history before destruction ensues.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:43pm@ THEREV1776
I’ve read about their history of baiting & you’re keeping out that the pit turned from fighting rats into fighting dogs .
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:09pmReasons to own a pitbull:
Service animal: Pitbulls have shown to have one of the more higher intelligence known for dogs, with german sheperds and collie’s being above them.
My pitbull is part of my home security I depend on her to keep our home safe. A criminal will automatically know her by what she is by sight as easily as a german shepherd or rottweiler, but sheds way less hair. If someone were to attempt home invasion im reasonably confident that her greeting them would slow them down enough for me to reach one of my firearms and teach the person how to knock.
Report Post »She is our family pet and sleeps with my kids and is loved on by the elderly members of my family and has never shown a sign of any aggression.
For any person to claim there is “no reason” to own a pitbull puts them in the class of closed minded individuals that believe there is no reason to own a firearm. Everyone should own a firearm and learn how to propley use and care for them. A dog, of any breed, is no different
mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:22pm@ entropy The only reason many people own them is to inflate own sense of “toughness” or “worth” because they are lacking it themselves.
Yeah? Tell that to Helen Keller and thousands of other people who own pits for service dogs.
Report Post »TheRev1776
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:48pmI own them and raise them, Pits are no worse than a trained K-9 or junk yard dog. And Robert I didn’t intentionally leave that out, they were not bred for that, however, they become that due to the same mentality that uses Roosters for fighting. Ignorance. But if we are going to fear fighting dogs then here is a list of all breeds you would want banned:
A
Akita Inu
Alano Español
American Pit Bull Terrier
American Bulldog
Argentine Dogo
Boxer
Bull Terrier
Bully Kutta
Cane Corso
Caucasian Ovtcharka
Central Asian Ovtcharka
Dogue de Bordeaux
English Mastiff
Fila Brasileiro
Gull Dong
Gull Terr
Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Korea Jindo Dog
Lottatore Brindisino
Neapolitan Mastiff
New Guinea Singing Dog
Perro de Presa Canario (Canary Dog)
Perro de Presa Mallorquin (Ca de Bou)
Scottish Bulldog
Shar Pei
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Tosa
Might as well call them all Pits…..same way every gun is a cop killing AK.
Report Post »Lover of America
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:50amYou’re all ignorant.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:27pm@ THEREV1776
Good debate but for each his personal opinion .
Report Post »I was always around pets & I love them .
Bobbie
Posted on June 14, 2011 at 7:45pmi really wish the idiot ban will hurry up so we dont have to keep hearing from stupid people. I AM A PROUD OWNER OF PIT BULLS! My boyfriends 79 year old mother owns a red nose pit and he is her best friend. Her 77 year old husband fell in a ditch and this (evil.. haha) red nose helped him out of it and helped him all the way to his house. YEAH SOME AGGRESSIVE BREED HUH? the only flaw the pit bull breed has is mankind. We just got in a female red nose that has never been raised around any farm animals and cats. She has not once growled or hurt any of them. Actually she plays with the cat. My family and I would fight to protect my LOVING pit bulls dude and sassy.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:55amHow many more people have to be killed or mauled before these dog’s are outlawed….they can’t be trusted. I had a friend that had a female that was a truely sweet dog….but one day out of the blue she turned on a kid on a bike a severly bit him.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:06amI have to agree…these dogs should be outlawed. I’m an animal lover but this breed seems to be genetically programmed for random & unprovoked vicious attacks. I know people who swear that violent pit-bull behaviour is caused only by environment, but the statistical facts prove otherwise.
bospopp
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:12amFunny that we all believe PEOPLE kill people, not guns….. and complain when the lib’s want to take away our personal choice to own a firearm…. Say PIT BULL and everyone runs screaming KILL THE DOGS!!! First they came for your Pit Bull, then they came for your pug…..
Report Post »LastCallForEmpathy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:13amcompletely asinine comment…when pits are treated with love and the proper attention they are well behaved…This story could have been about any number of large dogs…I am sick of pits getting a bad rap because of their locking jaws…The owners are the problem not the dogs…
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:14am@bluefish:
One of my nephews pit bulls turned on my mother a few months ago, ripping her hand apart. I have no love for these particular kind of mutts; I know that may be harsh, yet where once I regarded the attacks as just the exception to the rule, now, not anymore…these dogs are walking timebombs indeed.
Report Post »upstateny
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:14amIt’s the humans people we did this. Yes there are bad ones, it’s called life. Just look around and observe the majority of the people. People can’t handle their own kids how in the world do you expect them to control an animal.
Report Post »barak hussein osama arafat
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:16amoutlaw pitbulls. period.
Report Post »LastCallForEmpathy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:18amI forgot to mention that i do feel bad for this elderly man and those close to him…
Report Post »faithwalker
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:25amThis man’s life will forever be changed by the lack of the owners responsibility to control their dogs. I pray for his speedy recovery. Let this be a lesson to everyone who takes on a creature that is incompatible with humans, DON’T it rarely turns out good. As an example take a look at the everglades. They have become overrun by snakes and lizards that PEOPLE thought were cute at first and then when they grew too big they just released them into the wild. Hogs and even cats have become such a problem that they are even threatening neighborhoods. Wise up people, if you can’t control yourselves what makes you think you can control an animal that would just as soon attack the hand that feeds it as it would an enemy. God set a natural order on this earth, don’t try to mess with it.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:26amthen they came for your pug…..
A pug can’t rip your arm out
Report Post »stinkybisquit
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:28amIt’s not the breed; it’s not how the owner raises it; it’s not the particular family line. It’s all of them. I own a Scottish Terrier, which was originally bred to go in burrows and kill weasels, etc. That is still in mine, even though I got him from a show breeder, and I teach him not to. Pit bulls have it in them to attack; you can breed some of it out, and the owner can train some out, but I still won‘t turn my back on the nicest pit I’ve seen.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:30amI understand that people say it is not the dogs fault it is the owners.I agree when it comes to barking, urinating, chewing etc. But wouldn’t you think with all the attacks from the Pit Bulls They would at least REGULATE who owns one. I am an animal lover but I am very unsure around Pit Bulls. How do we know who is a GOOD OWNER and who is not? Can a Beagle for instance be trained to kill on its own without a command from an owner? I am just raising questions, I do not know for a fact, only what common sense tells me. I would like to be educated
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:37amhttp://www.gainesville.com/article/20110610/ARTICLES/110619976/0/NEWS?p=2&tc=pg
You should arm yourself with a few facts before going off unarmed to pick a fight.
Why dont you people ever look at the owners of the dogs who are involved in mauling like this?
Report Post »Seriously get a grip people.
Cemoto78
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:45amIt’s not the dog, it’s the owner(s).
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:48amEither outlaw these dogs, or make the penalties harsh if an attack occurs.
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mill
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:50amnature over nurture….proves true alllllll over the animal kingdom
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:53amIn some places they are already are.
It is illegal in Miami-Dade County to own or keep American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, or any other dog that substantially conforms to any of these breeds’ characteristics. For more information, view the Miami-Dade County ordinance, Chapter 5, Sec. 5-17.
There is a $500 fine for acquiring or keeping a pit bull dog and court action to force the removal of the animal from Miami-Dade County.
Report Post »mill
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:54amALSO,…NEVER heard of a PUG tearing a eprson’s face off, or mangling their body…
Report Post ».not a ood argument…
Teapartycorner.com
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:56amReally you are on a limited government site and say you want to outlaw a dog breed. Do you know that Pitbulls make up less than 1% of all dog bites. Way to want less governmental intervention in our lives. Freedom first!
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:03pmI had two pit bulls at different times, they were the most sweet dogs I ever had, it is the way they are raised. I will make bets that the owners are thugs and raised them to be mean and vicious. These dogs will not attack unless 1 they are provoked or 2 taught to attack.
Report Post »PaBowHunter
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:06pmI agree. It’s not the breed. It‘s the owner’s of the dogs. I will admit that these dogs are more apt to attack other animals and on occasion people, but it’s the training (or lack there of) that is the real root of the problem. I think the answer is to make people criminally responsible for their animals.
Report Post »TopOfTheMuffin2u
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:11pmAs a former horse trainer I can tell you that different breeds of animals have different characteristics and temperments. It is ill-informed to believe that Pit Bulls just need a loving family to care for them. Yes, not all of them are going to kill or injur someone but it is a dangerous breed especially aroung small children.
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:23pm“To know me is to love me”, says my loving American Staffordshire Terrier a.k.a. pitbull ‘Bumble’. Case by case, people. Case by case.
Here was a story that Drudge posted a link to the other day –
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110610/D9NOPLUG0.html
Because these were not pitbulls, the headline only mentioned that they were dogs. So every story is basically either pitbull attack or a generic catch-all; dog attack. Propaganda tool. You all are eating it up.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:25pmThis it’s the owner, not the dog crap just doesn’t hold water, there are to many people that get attacked by these dogs that have been raised in loving homes until one day they just snap and kill some 8 year old for a lollypop they don’t even want to eat. 40 years ago my 6 year old sister ended up with 130+ stitches in her head and face by a half pit/half germanshepard mix, that she had grown up with, for a blowpop. I don’t know about the rest of the nation, but in the south there are growing packs of wild pit/wolf mixes that are big powerful, aren’t scared of man, and like to kill just for the fun of it.
While pits are great as a tool to detect people you don’t want to hang out with/don’t want your kids associating with, they also carry some huge negatives that need to be at least regulated.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:33pmI disagree.
RESPONSIBILITY dictates:
Know WHAT you are dealing with and adjusting your life style accordingly, or DO NOT follow an activity.
I rescued a Chow/Rottweiler that had been severely abused the first six months of her life. I mean beaten,starved , and locked in a closet for fourteen hours a day. My wife and I understood fully what we were getting into. Insurance companies refused to insure us and our home. We took care of this beautiful creature till she had to be put down because of advanced cancer at the age of fourteen (human). We live in a rural area. Our neighbors had our phone number, this had been discussed, if she got loose go inside and call. They also had consent to shoot to kill IF THEY FELT IT NECESSARY.
Report Post »Large animals do not belong in suburbia, there are too many variables.
techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:41pmLastCallForEmpathy: My wife had a Pit when I met her. At first I didn’t care for the dog especially with their reputation but in time I came to love the dog. It is the most sensitive well behaved smartest animal I’ve ever been around.. I assure you that it’s smarter and better behaved than a lot of teenagers.
On the other hand, a neighbor of my mother’s is housing two Pit puppies in her old kennel. Both blue noses and she plans to fence them in her back yard. I told her at a very minimum she should give one away. She didn‘t like my comment and it’s easy to forsee a bad situation just waiting to happen.
These dogs require the utmost in attention and nurturing and if one intends to pair them up they need to be out in the country with warning signs all around their property. I would quickly advocate city gov’ts requiring a permit to own these types of dogs and others for we all know that common thugs and low lifes are procuring them for devious purposes or at a minimum because they look tough.
I hate regulations but this would be a prime example imo for some type of local regulations.
Report Post »His Lamb is Satanic
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:42pmIt is not the dog’s fault, or an breed. It is the owners who train them to be mean as a matter of vanity.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:43pmI read this in my local paper yesterday .. under Florida news .. I was hoping that it would be picked up nationally … These killer dogs have no business in civilized society! Children and the elderly (and others and pets) are being killed and maimed by these thug dogs AND THEIR OWNERS. If this were a “PRODUCT” it would be banned! HOW MANY MORE?
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:44pmbooger71: Ha! That was funny.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:48pmAnd to you “pit defenders” .. do you NOT understand? .. that dogs are bred for certain jobs … a hunting dog will “hunt” .. a pointer will “point” … a water dog will “swin” .. etc a fighting dog will “fight”. These dogs have been bred by thugs for thugs … and they are killers … uncontrollable often by the very owners who claim they were “very loving” and “sweet” right up until they kill or mame someone.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:55pmabbygirl1994
That’s the same cop out all pitbull owners use, just after their pit killed or maimed a child.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:56pmShoot the dogs AND the neighbor.
Report Post »lildeb56
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:56pmAre you truly this ignorant to blame the dogs? Then you are the person who thinks guns kill people. I agree with the televised comment. These dogs are territorial and will protect their territory. The owner should be arrested for letting them run loose. The dogs have been destroyed. You can’t blame the breed. There’s an organization in California that teaches people how to handle their dogs. Please visit their website. The breed is a good one. Owners need to learn how to handle them. They also have a Facebook page.
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the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:58pmI had a Beagle that would do the same thing, Why It was an adopted pet that was Abused, the the second it felt scared, it would go on the defensive
The Vast Majority of all Pit Bulls are Abused, and have Abusive Owners, Thus they have problems.
The Owners are to blame not the dogs…
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:04pm@SISSYKATZ,
Any Dog can be trained to do anything. beagle are Breed to be HUNTING dogs, they go out and find prey, that is their think. They could be trained to attack, but due to their size would probally not be Idea,
But just because a Breed has the Size and Ability does not mean they should be Banned, What about Rot’s? Labs?, Dobermans?, Sheapers?, Infact there are more German Sheppards Trained to kill and attack then there are Pits, The Problem with Pits is that OWNERS do NOT train them, they turn them in to mindless fighting beast that feel their very survival rests on killing anything it sees. That is not TRAINING that is abuse. PERIOD.
German Sheppards are still, for good reason, the most popular breed for people that want to have a true “attack” dog, I dont see anyone calling for them to be banned
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:04pmWow!!! I‘m not sure why I’m so amazed at the ignorance on this blog but I am.. My gawd. No wonder this Nation is in such a sad state of affairs…
Report Post »Hula Calhoun
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:07pmPit bulls are genetically vicious. They are called pit bulls for a reason: they were bred to be able to fight bulls, literally. That is why they have the snub nose, so that the bull couldn’t bite them on the snout.
Report Post »MontanaRob
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:10pmFirst, I love dogs!!! More than most people anymore unfortunately.
Report Post »I DON”T like pitbulls, period!
If any animal, dog, mountain lion, bear, whatever comes at me, I will empty my sidearm on it! I don’t care if the “owner” is standing there or not. In case he, she or it is pi$$ed off, I will execute a quick reload and give the person the choice to back down or join the dead animal. No apologies!
the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:12pm@HULA CALHOUN No they were not actually, They were Breed in Europe for Cattle Ranches and as Police Dogs.
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:42pmI will start this off by saying that to those of you that have had actual negative experiences, I can understand your bias… to a point. I have stated in the past that I had been bitten as a child – once by a German Shepherd and once by a large Poodle. I do not hold anything against either breed. They were just bad individual dogs.
Let me extend a sincere invitation to anyone in the Chicagoland area to stop by my house for a visit and meet my girl. She would be happy to see you, since she loves human attention (positive attention, in case that needs to be said). And if it matters at all, she has her CGC certificate (has passed the Canine Good Citizenship program). I will put away my Shepherd/Black Lab/Border Collie mix, though. Missy would be happy to bite any hand that was extended towards her in friendship.
People are either willing to acknowledge that they might learn something from experiences or they have a locked mind. You know, like they’ve grabbed a hold of an idea and clamped down on it, unwilling to let that thought go. :)
But I am serious about the invitation. I welcome anyone who would like to stop by for coffee, to talk, and maybe a sloppy kiss or two from Bumble.
Report Post »billybe123
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:47pmTotally agree… These Dogs are no Good. They will turn Eventually. Its in there Breeding. And I don’t want to hear about how good dogs they can be. Sure, for a while, but then something at sometime Snaps with these animals, and they attack. They should be exterminated, the whole breed.
Report Post »Independent-Conservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:54pmTo all you calling to outlaw this breed, come try and take my dog. You would not be walking away and it would have absolutely NOTHING to do with the dog…
I love how quick people are to jump to conclusions. Pit-Bulls are incredible dogs and that is a FACT. Do some research before sounding off on comment boards and sounding like an ignorant piece of trash. It has EVERYTHING to do with the owners and how they raised the animal. any dog, treated unkindly and aggressively can turn into a weapon. I wish the media would cover when everyone’s favorite German Shepard mauls an elderly person or child. That would be something, now wouldn’t it.
On top of all this, how completely hypocritical it is to be a follower of this conservative/libertarian site while making ignorant comments such as “Outlaw this breed.” I would vote to outlaw your opening your mouth as it is far more dangerous than any dog’s could ever be.
http://dogtime.com/pit-bulls-and-the-media-hooray.html
http://dogtime.com/dog-breeds/american-pit-bull-terrier
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:02pmTo TECHENGINEER
I don‘t like to argue with friend’s, and at first I was going to not post anything.
Lets look at the injuries, “arm removed” “face has been badly damaged”
Each time one of the Pit Bull storys come out its hard core stuff. not just a bite on the leg, but arms removed, kid killed, postal clerk attacked . . .
Another one that surprizes me is when one of those big snakes attack, last year in Florida a baby got killed when the snake got out and entered her crib.
I see your point, but just like with guns people get careless, and someone else pays the price.
Remember that ape attack, that woman lost her face. I’m just saying some pets are a little to wild.
Report Post »jds7171
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:02pmNo wonder us conservatives are believed a joke. WE say different things in each situation. If someone trys to take a persons gun we are all up in arms. But if the government wants to take a persons pit bull away we don’t care. I thought individual freedom is what we believed. The person can sue the owners of the dogs. ITs called negligence. As an owner of a pit bull I understand that.
With people on here, I am afraid to call myself a conservative. But Then I just remind myself that I am the conservative (and people like me) and you guys are the PROGRESSIVES. You may not be as bad as Reid, McCain, and the rest. You guys are still bad. I can’t believe one of you guys used the word regulate. Seriuosly. I believe that some regulation needs to be put in place in this world, but to regulate who can own what kind of dog. Who are you to tell me what I can or can’t do.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:05pmOwners of dogs that attack and do bodly harm to a person for no reason should be jailed,fined big time,the dogs then put down,i don‘t care if it’s a pit bull or whatever,if dog owners can’t control their dogs then they have no business having a dog,i personally don’t want a pit bull dog,to many times they have attacked for no reason at all,God Bless this elderly man i pray for him that he will recover as well as he can
Report Post »mr_e_m_t
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:07pm@sissykats
Report Post »Part of being a good owner is making sure your dog goes to good homes.
Rest of it comes down to law enforcement to protect the public and protect the dogs from bad owners.
Hence Michael Vick being banned from owning any dogs.
By the way, about the pitbulls Vick owned? http://www.globalanimal.org/2010/11/02/update-how-are-the-former-vicks-dogs-doing-now/21490/
coloradopaytreeot
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:20pmExcerpt from http://www.pitbulllovers.com/responsible-pit-bull-owners.html :
Quote “Responsible ownership starts from the time your Pit Bull comes to live with you. Irresponsible owner’s are one of the major causes for all the problems the breed faces today. It’s our hope here at Pit Bull Lovers we can spread the word and educate more owners to take responsibility for their dogs actions.
In order for things to change, we must change the way we look at our own actions and how they effect the world around us. Until we do that, things will simply stay the way they are right now.”
Responsible ownership is obviously what the issue was here. People who think that Pit Bulls just randomly bite people or attack or maul, are ignorant to the fact that ALL dogs have the potential to become violent. Proper training, attention, and managing of a dog especially Pit Bulls will assure a life filled with happiness and love with your dog. Sure you may think that it‘s cute when a little dog goes ballistic and protects it’s owner or it’s toy, but, you need to realize, that is the same behavior that other dogs do that gets them in trouble. ALL dogs are predators and protectors from birth, proper care for your dog will assure that your dog has no reason to use those instincts.
Report Post »coladude
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:28pmThey are calm until one day they lash out.
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Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:30pmIt’s the dog, maybe the owner, but rarely is it the victim.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:35pmThe same goes for the Chow breeds. My (young, not after grown) children’s half siblings had a Chow until he tore into my step-daughter’s arm. And the dog was that family’s pet!
Now, if you want to see some really nice puppies, you should take a look at MarysLittleLamb’s little babies. One is sitting in a coffee cup and is happy and safe from “this cruel world.” Great shots, MML!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:36pmStupid!
Report Post »Jail the owners of the dogs! It’s been done before and it should be done here to these people.
I had a Pit Bull that was the nicest most well mannered dog I’ve ever owned. People complemented me on how sweet natured he was. He did bark at strangers who approached my house when I wasn’t there. But that was the only aggression he ever showed. I had some friends that had two of the biggest Dobermans I ever saw. Same thing with them. On the other side I have seen little lap dogs that were the meanest little ‘piranhas’, that they could not be allowed to be around people.
Look at the, ‘Dog Whisperer’, Cesar Millan’s favorite training dog. He is a large docile Pit Bull.
It’s not the dogs. It’s the owners!…..JAIL THEM!!
Truth Wins Every Time
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:43pmWatch any Dog Show and see how Pits behave………gentle and sweet.
Report Post »So what is the difference between “show” pits and just non-show pits????? The answer is HUMANS.
Or more to the point…….the type of humans who own the pits.
TheRev1776
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:48pmBluefish: German Shepard and Doberman Pincher are attack dogs. Both bred for it and taught too. Under extreme control they are the nicest dogs and on command the meanest dog you will ever encounter. As for Pit Bulls they were bred to fight Bulls, big 1000+ lb animals full of rage and this thing was sent in to corral an out of control bull. With training and control a pit is a great dog. However, I believe they should be kept in a fenced yard and on a leash when in public at all times. They, like a K-9 cop, must be handled by the owner constantly. That way their is control established always. I have a pit (45 lbs) small side and a Min Pin (10lbs) and I allow them to play for so long but I intervene when needed to establish my dominance over all in the yard. It really does fall on the owners to control and keep them in a secured place. Pits, like any dog, shouldn’t be roaming a yard with no fence. My personal belief. Where I live there is no fences so I use runs when I am outside, the dogs never stay out there without me or my wife. This is a major problem around here, dogs running around the streets getting hit; it falls on the OWNERS always ! I say, we need a permit to carry, maybe we need a permit to show we are capable of handling any dog. My next dog will be a D. Pincher and maybe a Rottie, which also have a bad name. Dogs are what they are through traits but making a mean dog can be done with any. I’ve seen some evil Jake Terriers because of the owne
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:50pmI can tell you this, and this is a fact, if I ever see one of those mutts running around loose, I will shoot to kill.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:50pmwhen the pitbull became the dog of choice for the ganster, thug, rap music crowd is when we started seeing all the attacks. dog bit stats are trickey. It is not so much that pits, rots, shepherds bit often, but when they do bit, it causes much damage.
I do not wish for gov intervention into much of anything I do, to include the dog I own. Would be nice though, if the average American would study before getting a dog. It is like folks in Alabama owning sled dogs for a pet. They can not take the heat well, and not alot of use for a sled dog in the deep south. If you are going to hunt hogs, get a pit. If you just want a good yard dog, get a boxer. To each his own I guess.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 2:51pm“German Sheppards are still, for good reason, the most popular breed for people that want to have a true “attack” dog, I dont see anyone calling for them to be banned”
Because week after week, you don’t see in the news that a German Shepard has killed or maimed someone.
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:00pm@INDEPENDENT-CONSERVATIVE,
Conservative have never and will never be for individual freedom, your confusing “conservative” with “libertarian”
Conservatives what just as much government control over your life as liberals, they on differ on the topics of that control.
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:04pmTo COLORADOPAYTREEOT
When I was in the American Army, they sent me to Egypt as part of that Jimmy Carter peace plan, ya big waste of money, anyway one thing they always say in the arm’s room is “clear your weapon” over and over “clear you weapon”
We had been in Egypt just a few weeks and in the arm’s room, PFC. Little got shot in the stomach, the PVT. that shot him didn’t clear !!! his M-16
We flew PFC. Little to Jerusalem on a Blackhawk, on the way PFC. Little was in shock, and he just kept saying “cooksy” shot me.
I haven’t wrote about that in 30 years, it still freaks me out thinking about it.
PFC. Little died in Jerusalem
My point is some people are careless, and an innocent pays the price.
Do you think everyone should have the right to have any pet/weapon they want ?
Report Post »Luckywon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:08pmBospopp – Your comment makes no sense. You are comparing dogs, which have proven to be very unpredictable, to guns, which are 100% predictable. I have children, therefore, I will Never own a nanny dog. (Pitbull). And if my neighbors happen to bring home a pit bull… I will keep a gun close at hand and shoot the thing in the head the first time it steps foot on my property.
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:20pmTo The Ancient
Report Post »True
I’m the most conservative on the Blaze
I would love to go back to the good old days of Jim Crow laws and segregation
But when it comes to living next to a guy that has a cat or bog or ape that can kill me, ya should he have that?
Dale
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:24pmI have two ‘dropped on me’ pits. I was very reluctant to take the first one, having heard bad reports about them. She was a pup when we puppy sat her for the first time. I said we could keep her in the back yard so as not to attack the other two ‘drop’ dogs we had (I’ve since told my kids no more dogs). Some time later my son asked if we would take her. She is the sweetest dog ever! People try to get her to come to them. Other dogs attacked her, she didn’t respond! I’m tired of the breed being blamed. I forgot the Arizona sicko who shot Congresswoman Giffords. He attacked without provocation – should we ban all humans? Or only whites? I’m told that should someone attack me, she will defend me; I hope never to find out, but she is so gentle that I doubt she would. There are several other breeds (IIRC German Shepherds, and others) who attach humans more than pits-but they don’t get press.
A 2009 fatal dog report can be found here:
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2009-DBRF-Booklet-FINAL-11.pdf
The article which only covers fatal attacks cites neglect, maltreatment, and other negative causes contributed to the majority of attacks. It also indicated that small dogs attack, but these attacks are less damaging. I think we may reasonably conclude the above-cited reasons contribute to dog attacks.
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:39pmIf the Blaze posts these types of stories here as a test on their members, I’d say this one shows just how powerful fear and ignorance are.
It has been shown time and again that pitbulls are blamed for attacks because either the victim or a witness had misidentified the breed of dog. Rarely is a retraction printed when the facts are known. This is easily researched. BTW – O’Reilly even blamed pitbulls of a dog attack when the dogs were actually Cane Corsos. (San Francisco, Calif – woman in hallway of apartment)
Media outlets will use PITBULL in their heading to draw viewers. Like Shark Attack, it gets the viewer’s adrenaline going and they devour the story. Ask yourself – do you read a story that is titled Dog Attack the same way as when ‘pitbull’ is mentioned? Just be honest with yourself.
I speak with experience because I was that kind of person. I swore to my husband that I would never own one and never allow our kids near one. I was converted after I met one. I started looking at these posted stories just a little bit closer. And for the record, I am one stubborn girl who is not easily swayed.
Maybe some people are proud of being tough and cold-hearted. But should you declare to all that you really haven’t done your research and that you just bigoted? Sorry if this offends, but I cannot see it any other way. I live by the motto – Err on the side of caution. I do. And I’m saying here that you are unnaturally afraid of these dogs.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 3:51pmYou are an idiot. These dogs are no more vicious than any other dog is. The fault lies with an ignorant or complicit owner who either didn’t know how to handle a dog or did and taught the dogs to be like this. How would you like it if I tried to outlaw the children of minorities because they commit more violent crimes? I bet you’d be outraged (as would I at the thought of eugenics) because race has nothing to do with the problem, the real cause is how the person is raised and what they are taught. The same applies to domesticated animals. All dogs are the same species, just different breeds or in human speak, races.
Report Post »Jedrin
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:11pmA dog is like a 4 year old child with a loaded gun. It is not the dogs fault for attacking anyone, it is the owner. The owners of pit bulls should be euthanized, before they cause any more trouble. Dog owners are like smokers, I don’t care what you do to yourself but the disrespect smokers and dog owners show to me makes me euthanize them. Half the people in my apartments that own dogs can not even pick up the feces and get mad at me for complaining. I have a three year old daughter that want to play on the grass but it is full of dog waste. If I were getting mauled by a dog be sure my first shot will be to the owners head.
Report Post »Sir_Eric
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:15pmSometimes it hard to determine fact from fear, My niece has two dogs a Rottweiler and a Pitt bull for the protection of her children. She raised them from pups and took training courses. When i first met them, I admit I was leary of them, and they of me. After a few months, ie. the dogs getting to know me, my fear vanished, however, I would pitty the poor s.o.b. that tried to grab one of her kids. On the other side of the issue I cant recall hearing a news story that read’s “ Chocolate Labs viciously attack man ” or “ Child Malled by Irish Setter ” or “ Malamute ”. not that it couldn’t happen. Some dogs are far more aggressive by nature, and this is were it gets tough to figure out whats – what as it were. We have laws regarding Cougars, Lions, ect. why not enact similar laws, if you want to own an aggressive breed you must take courses in dog training “learn how to control the dog” and have a large enough property to accommodate them ect.
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:50pmthanks for your open mindeness here . lets just open the door for the eugenisists. kill those who are not in your framework. this is good now go to sleep mindless minions.
look punish the people who weaponize an animal to be vicious and those who are irresponsible. not everyone.
how many people need get killed or have broken bones before you shut down all play grounds or bicycles or my god the horror of brainj freeze from a nice cold shake on a hot summer day.
be carefull of what you ask for. ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL. PUNISH THE GUILTY ONLY!!!!!!!!! I HOPE THAT YOU ARE INTELLGENT ENOUGH TO GET THIS AND NOT ACT LIKE A F*ING LIBERAL!
Report Post »notreally
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:52pmDoes such behavior remind anyone of a certain religion?
Report Post »BlazingPatriot
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:58pmSo sad!
Because of a dog attack, this poor old man’s life is now the PIT(s) and that is no BULL.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:07pmEach and every comment above, I replaced the words Pit Bull with the word Muslim, and they all make sense to me.
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:17pmIf you own an animal that harms a human or someones pet, then the same thing should happen to you. If this was my relative you could count on it. Pit bulls are dangerous animals and if you are stupid enough to own one, then you should be willing to pay the price with interest. If your Pit Bull kills a child or anyone else then you should lose your life in a very traumatic manner… like throwing you into a pit of hungry alligators.
Report Post »Wayne
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:19pmThese dogs need to be outlawed, they are just killers and a status symbol for drug dealers, and gang members. they are also abused and used to fight in the arenas. I would not have one next door to me.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:20pmClassify pit bulls as you would a lion.
Report Post »I‘m sure most places don’t let just anybody keep lions running around loose in the U.S.of A.
There is much compelling evidence these are wild animals and should be treated as such.
The difference is, they were intentionally bred for this behavior, whereas wolves and lions come by it naturally.
imreddog
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:38pmTrying to compare a Pit Bull or any other dangerous animal to a gun is really stupid. If you lay your gun on a table, in the yard or anywhere else, it will simply lay there until it is picked up by someone. A dangerous animal, like a Pit Bull, will roam around and attack without provocation. Unfortunately, Pit Bull attacks almost always end with very serious injury or death to those who are attacked. If your Pit Bull attackes me or my family or my dog, I will go to jail and you will go to the morgue… right after I kill your Pit Bull. KEEP YOUR VICIOUS ANIMAL UNDER CONTROL!
Report Post »I have trained my Brittany Spaniel to;
1) Not bark.
2) Not bite even if you take food out of his mouth.
I will not have a dog that bites anyone! And, I’m not going to put up with your dog running loose and terrorizing the neighborhood.
anOpinion
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:03pmThe bottom line is the owner should be personally responsible for any damage/injury/death done by their dogs. If they are unwilling or unable to control a pit bull or any other potentially dangerous breed then they shouldn’t own one.
These dogs are like loaded shotguns, they are safe in the hands of people who know how to handle them, and very dangerous in the hands of those who don’t. If you cannot or will not put in the time to properly train their dogs, then get the equivalent of a squirt gun instead of a shotgun, opt for a small dog.
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:19pmWow there sure are alot of people the NetBalls, I bet none of these people would do anything in the offline world
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:38pmAny dog can be vicious. It has to do with how you raise them and train them.
Pit bulls should not be outlawed. Stupid people should.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:45pmWe should also outlaw great danes, and rottweilers, and german shepherds, and english sheepdogs, and any other dog that can inflict harm upon a person with its jaws.
Because its the dog‘s fault that their owner teaches them to be aggressive and can’t control them. Its the dog’s fault /sarc
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:52pm“Authorities have twice dealt with Blitch over dog bites, Greenwood added.” From the above-cited article.
I have a hard time understanding everyone here who advocates killing these dogs. Their owners TAUGHT them to be aggressive. They nurtured that behavior. That’s why its there. If you reward aggression, it gets worse. Its called knowing how to train your dog.
When you nip aggression in the bud, and refuse to reward anything but submissive calm behavior, then you won’t have a dog that viciously attacks people.
The pit bull is strong. So what. Plenty of dogs are strong. Behavior isn’t bred into the dog. Behavior is molded from birth. Instincts and tendencies can only go so far.
Look at chihuahuas. I’ve seen more cases of vicious biting chihuahuas than any other dog. Know why? Because people think “oh, they’re small, I don’t have to train them”, and they turn into aggressive anxious dogs. The only difference between the aggressive chihuahua and the aggressive pit bull is everyone wants to kill the pit bull out of fear of its power, rather than blaming the owner for abusing and neglecting it.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:55pm“nature over nurture….proves true alllllll over the animal kingdom”
Except that, it doesn’t. Whenever you find an aggressive dog or cat, you find an abusive or neglecting owner.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:00pm“In Canine homicides and the dog bite epidemic: do not confuse them, it has been pointed out that the dog bite epidemic as a whole involves all dogs and all dog owners, not just the breeds most likely to kill.
“In all fairness, therefore, it must be noted that:
” Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous.
” An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous, as in the case of the Pomeranian that killed the infant (see above).
” Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be potentially dangerous. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack.”
http://dogbitelaw.com/dog-bite-statistics/the-breeds-most-likely-to-kill.html
The reason why retards go and improperly train or abuse these powerful breeds is because of the perception that they’re dangerous. Aggressive and irresponsible people gravitate to powerful dog breeds, because they want a dog that can tear someone’s face off. And then they basically train them to do so.
If there wasn’t a stigma against pit bulls, the attacks would be less frequent.
Report Post »Physicist_In_Training
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:07pmHere’s an interesting thought; what if owners had to face charges of assault, as the responsible party, if their dogs assault someone? From a cost/benefit perspective, I think this would be a much better way to control pit bull attacks than to pass a blanket law outlawing them. There are people who work professionally with animals like this who would probably be very confident that their dogs wouldn’t randomly attack people; and those more lazy people who don’t take the time to properly train their animals and give them the attention they need might think twice before they choose a pit over, say, a retriever.
I think pits can be nice animals…but let’s face it, not all animals are equally benevolent and easy to train, even if they have an owner who treats them well. If people had harsher consequences for their pets‘ bad behavior then they’d be more likely to get a more docile breed in the first place.
I think it is absolutely horrible, what this vet experienced, and I sincerely hope the doctors can help him recover his life as best as possible. I honestly do think the owner of the dogs should be charged, and these dogs put down immediately, since they have so loudly declared themselves to be a danger.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:10pmWe have a pitbull/dachshund mix. Other than her short legs and longer body, she’s pretty much all pitbull. She’s always had an overpowering instinct to chase down anything that moves.
Once she got to be bigger than a puppy, she’d chase down the feral cats, and try to “hunt” the local wildlife. Then she got to be quick enough and strong enough to kill them, and brought home a half-eaten rabbit. We punished her for it. Yelled, stuck her nose in the carcass, and gave her a good hard swat. She knew then that what she did was wrong, and she was so ashamed, she puked up what she had eaten and sat in the corner for the rest of the night with her tail tucked and her head on the floor. Next day, she was fine. She hasn’t tried to kill anything since. Discipline is necessary for any dog.
To all those saying that pit bulls are too dangerous, and need to be outlawed…rather than holding the owners accountable and educating people on how to train ALL dogs…how about we outlaw everything that’s dangerous in the hands of an irresponsible person: cars, guns, fire, heavy machinery, tools, rocks, pencils, and even clothing (you can choke someone, you know). Then we’ll be safe, right?
Wrong. Outlaw pitbulls, and these morons will go out and find another breed to corrupt to be their vain statement of “I’m tough”…remember, these are the same people who get in brawls at IHOP and stabbings at McDonalds. Its not the dogs, its them.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:30pmI hate to say it, but these dogs tend to turn on people. Case in point, a young pitbull (1 year old) was playing with my border collie in the backyard and had done so several times with no problem, suddenly out of the blue, she pinned my dog down and grabbed hold of her jugler vein and would not release her and when she did she severely bit her owner. Never again, will I allow my dogs to play with a pitball.
Report Post »Physicist_In_Training
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:32pmDr Funk,
I think it’s obvious that the way the owner treats their animal will affect how the animal behaves. I think that the whole “nature vs nurture” debate is really quite silly, because it seems quite clear that both are important. Take myself as a case example. I own two cats; one is a purely domestic long hair calico; the other is a longhair whose mother was domestic, but she was sired by a bobcat, or some similar wild breed.
I obtained both of these cats as kittens, both almost the same age, raised both of them myself, fed them the same food, gave them the same love and attention, housed them in the same place, regularly associated with the same people around them. However, there is a huge difference in their behavior. The first cat is extremely docile, very playful, purrs constantly, lets anyone pick her up and pet her and play with her. The second, however, is skittish and aggressive toward even people that she has known for years. She treats my bedroom like a “den,” and tends only to exit it when I’m at home, at which point she will follow me around the house. She hisses at anyone who gets within a 3 foot radius of her, and doesn‘t even let me pick her up unless she’s really comfortable and in her “den.” I bathe my first cat regularly; the second has never had a bath, because I know I’d come out all scratched up. But at night she is so cuddly, curls up right on my chest. She was also harder to house train than the other.
Breeds do ma
Report Post »getalong
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:34pmDear lastcallforempathy, While I am sure there are some loving pitbulls, the pitbull I refered to in my last post had a very loving owner. So, maybe there are some dogs that do have some kind of genetic misfiring. I hate to say it, really, because I love dogs.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:35pmAll of you “kill them all!” folks are operating on the same knee-jerk hysterical emotion that liberals react to guns with.
And the answer is the same: when people are educated on how to properly handle and care for (dogs or guns), there are no problems. Its when irresponsible people get a hold of them that it becomes a problem.
Please stop acting like liberals, people.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:51pmI’m honestly ashamed to be a conservative, reading all of these responses. I thought you people stood for individual freedom and personal responsibility?
My faith in conservatives seriously dropped off a cliff tonight. You all need to reevaluate what you stand for.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:55pm“On the other side of the issue I cant recall hearing a news story that read’s “ Chocolate Labs viciously attack man ” or “ Child Malled by Irish Setter ” or “ Malamute ”. not that it couldn’t happen.”
That’s because, in order to sensationalize every news story, every pit bull attack gets reported as “VISCIOUS BLOODY PIT BULL ATTACK RESULTS IN DECAPITATION ZOMG” to get more reads, and then if its a pomeranian mauling an infant to death (which is far less sensational, but just as true and just as tragic), it gets reported as “Infant Dies in Dog Attack Accident”.
Report Post »pdh42
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:01pmPit bulls have there place, but not in an area where people live and children play…. I would never own one and do not understand why ANYONE with any sense would own one if they had children around…..
Report Post »justhefax
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:56pmAnimals are unpredictable and will attack for a variety of reasons. Some we can understand, some we can’t! The owners of any animal that has the potential of harming a human being to the extent these dogs injured this man should be charged criminally if the attacked was found to be unprovoked.
Report Post »smokie
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:23pmMany people in my area are purchasing this breed of dog solely due to the bad publicity it gets. They like to rile up trouble, and use the dog as a prop due to its reputation. There are few owners that StoicOne described, that know what kind of dog they have, that understand the peculiar nature of this breed, and are willing to work with neighbors. Though I’m lucky to have neighbors close by that truly love and are vigilant in caring for their pit bull, they are outnumbered by people who let their pits run loose, or not provide a good enough penning area for it, nor tend to the dog enough for its needs.
Report Post »Pits will escape and run about, and sometimes cause havoc, as they are bred to do. It is their nature. Good owners would do the whole breed well to educate themselves to the nature of the dog they own, and act accordingly, as StoicOne did. Pits are a time consuming, demanding breed. You just don’t leave them out like you would a birdbath.
JJ Coolay
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:25pmUmm.. BOSPOPP… you need to rethink your thoughts. First of all, a gun is an inanimate object. It doesn’t jump off the shelf and kill people. A pit bull on the other hand has a life of its own. The comparison is absurd.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:28pmSorry, I disagree; no bad dogs, just bad dog owners. They didn‘t ask to be born ’pit bulls”.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:31pmSome of the comments on here are REALLY DENSE!!
Report Post »I understand some people will defend Pit Bulls… that’s fine whatever.
But QUIT COMPARING an attack dog and some people’s desire to have them outlawed as a contradiction to those same people not wanting to outlaw guns. Guns don’t do a thing without a human manipulating it. A dog however can attack a person without it’s owner commanding so.
My Sacred Honor
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:53pmThis is NOT the fault of the breed, but rather the fault of the owners who train this breed or any other to kill at will. For every story like this you hear, there are 1,000 that you do not hear about how utterly sweet these dogs are when left to be raised by good owners. The only reason you hear of certain breeds doing horrible things is because of their reputation. Some sadistic …..“people” will buy these breeds because they think they are the best at being vicious. Truth is, there are vicious golden retreivers too. Dalmations are some of the most inherently vicious dogs there are, but you don’t hear about that because that is bad press. Who wants to know about a “firedog” killing some infant? But this does not mean Dalmations should be shunned or outlawed either. You take a chance whaen you invite ANY animal into your house. For the vast majority of the time, they do well if you do well with them. it is the same as human society. Sometimes, you give birth to Charles manson, sometimes Mahatma Ghandi. 95% fall in between.
Don’t hate on Pit Bulls. They are great dogs with a well known history of BEING great. Research the good before you knee-jerk about the bad.
Just look at Caeser Milan’s dog, Daddy. A former fighter pit that now won’t even blink at another dog trying to get bad with him. Now he’s a sweetheart.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:10amLASTCALLFOREMPATHY true…. poodles rip off arms every day
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:16amISLESFORDIAN is a lib troll baiting us
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:18amCatB
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:48pm
And to you “pit defenders” .. do you NOT understand? .. that dogs are bred for certain jobs … a hunting dog will “hunt” .. a pointer will “point” … a water dog will “swin” .. etc a fighting dog will “fight”. These dogs have been bred by thugs for thugs … and they are killers … uncontrollable often by the very owners who claim they were “very loving” and “sweet” right up until they kill or mame someone.
This brings me to my next arguement, which no one has brought up. Inbreeding. Any animal, human included, who are inbred, especially for a time develope weird characteristics, one of which is viciousness. Dogs are no different. I agree with posters that these ‘thug dogs’ are being bred for “thug purposes”. They do this by breed the meanest and most alpha of a litter together, over and over, and after several generations you get almost “retarded’ dogs who only know to kill whatever disagrees with them. That is why you only get a known AKC dog whose owners you trust NOT to be puppy farmers or inbreeders. The breed itself, “pit bull terrier” was bred to take down bovine bulls, NOT humans. Bet most of you didn’t know chihuahuas were bred to “distract” bears so hunters could take them down. Wanna outlaw them too? I know they are smaller than pugs, but what if some smart guy used their breeding to inbreed some chihuahuas to go after the testicals of humans and it spread? The pug reference IS
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:35amFind the owners, I‘m sure they’re low lives
Report Post »408 CheyTac
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:19amThey don’t need outlawing, they just need killing on sight if they are not properly restrained.
The morons that defend the breed are as much a problem as the animals. Why is it every time I meet a stafford owner, they have a severe case of “small man” syndrome?
Their aggressive attack nature is in their very DNA. it can’t be trained out of them. With proper handling it may be kept in check, but will always be there. Their brains are hardwired to be vicious, complements of man’s attempts to create a fighting dog. Just as border collies want to heard, and labs want to retrieve, staffords want to kill things. As a true libertarian, I would not outlaw them, I would hold their owners as culpable as if they had committed the violence themselves.
Report Post »jeffyfreezone
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:15amIn the mid nineties, I was honored to be named Humanitarian of the Year by a large animal charity. I spent decades rescuing animals. The last two years I was involved, I personally rescued OVER 100 puppies each year. That involved taking them to my house from the pound, vets’ or individuals, getting them vet checked, snipped, vaccinated, and wormed and adopting them out at PetSmart. My point is, I LOVE DOGS? NOBODY on the planet loves dogs more than I do! I had to shoot and kill one of my next door neighbor’s Pitt bulls.Both dogs were well cared for, not mistreated. They both jumped their fence and attacked other dogs. I shot and killed one, another neighbor shot and killed the other. You make think it‘s not I’n them , but it’s still there waiting to be set off. Those who don’t believe it are in denial, much like the Messianic Obama followers won’t see the facts about their Dear Leader. These genes may lie dormant, but they are still there, waiting to be triggered, as CATB above pointed out. Those Pitt bull true believers who mock Obamatons should look I’n the mirror. It’s the same kind of delusional misplaced blind faith, and it is very destructive, to people, and other
Report Post »animals.
UPSETVET
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:12amDon’t blame the gun, blame the person that fires it. Same thing should apply to Pit Bull dogs, don’t blame them, blame their owners who don’t know how to properly raise or control them from harming others. The dogs have been euthanized or killed by authorities. What’s being done about the owner of the dogs ? Maybe it should have been him or her that was euthanized !
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:14amIT ISN‘T THE DOG’S FAULT. IT IS THE TRAINER/OWNER!!! I know pit bulls quite well, and they are very docile, unless they are trained to be this way, as a guard dog, fighter, ect. If you study the “bite” chance of dogs,
Report Post »1. Dalmatian(they are almost deaf)
2. Cocker Spaniel
3. Doberman(but they are used by the police, so this skews the number I would think)
FORLORNHOPE
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:42am30 years ago I knew some dogmen who were very big breeders. These men killed any dog on the spot if the dog bit or attempted to bite. This is what they told me; when training pit bull dogs for fighting you ‘roll’ your dog (a practice fight to work up the dog and gain it confidence) you are in the pit with your dog. You sometimes grab the dog’s collar to restrain him . These men did not breed dogs that bit people they killed them so not to continue that trait in the blood lines.The truth is that a dogsmans dog was safe to be around if you were human. You do not want a fighting dog that bites people thats a common sense rule for a dogman. Now you got tough guy idiots breeding the dog..
Another fact is that in the late 1800‘s and early 1900’s pit bulls were the most popular dog in America everybody had one. Just look at old pictures from that time period…. why was this biting not a problem back then? Owners said that the pit bull was the most trusted dog. All the pictures I see show these dogs a companions to babies and children. You want to rewrite history like a progressive have at it.
I have never fought a dog and have never seen a live dog fight. From pictures and what I have been told I do not want to. But the dog has qualities that I love and I will defend the breed as a safe family pet if socialized and not over breed, or over inbreed. The Germans know how to protect a breed… blood lines have to be recorded.
Report Post »Orange Pekoe Tea Party
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:30amWow. Liberals in the room. OUTLAW pitbulls? I’ve owned 2 American Pitbulls. FANTASTIC animals. The problem is with the mentality of a dog owner and how it is brought up. If you havent owned a Pitbull, and you qualify these animals by the Pitbull-hating media, your not qualified to judge. Would the Pelosis and Michelle Obamas please leave the room and leave the rest of us to our freedoms? Thank you. Couch legislators and dog haters need not respond. Come get my dogs and guns, cowards.
Report Post »Lover of America
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:43amIt’s very unfortunate that Pit Bulls are always the bad dogs in the news. Our family has one and he is the sweetest dog. Like any animal, they can be good or bad depends on their environment. It’s sad that they get a bad wrap all the way around. Remember pit bulls are abused by their owners for fighting and such, it is absolutely disgusting; thank you Michael Vick. Pit Bulls are awesome animals. I have owned a lot of dogs in my life and this breed is highly intelligent and loving. Don’t bash the pit bull, educate yourselves.
Report Post »YourFavoriteT
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:44amAll dogs have animal instincts… I had the nicest dog in the world statistically (Golden Retreiver). We were playing the front yard and a person on a big rode by and the dog gave chase and knocked them off the bike and bit into thier face. 42 stiches on the persons face and body. It’s not the breed it is what the people do to these dogs to make them this way. Or you have the occasionally instictual freak out.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:25pm@RANGERP Funny that you enjoy your own personal liberties but hate the fact that people different than you demand for the same ability to run their personal lives to the best of their ability, as well as receive equal treatment under the law (homosexuals).
Report Post »krenshau
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:43pmThe problem is that people get these dogs and don’t have a clue about how to interact with the dogs. Dogs are pack animals and they have a hierarchy. Too many people let the dogs be the pack leader, and then they wonder why the dogs don’t listen. This person let their dogs run wild. The dogs didn’t respect the owner. Had the owner been the pack leader these dogs would sit where the owner told them to and not move until they were told they could. Pit Bulls are a powerful breed, but they still follow their pack leader.
Report Post »tuberzz
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:14pmIts not the dogs it’s bad irresponsible owners!!
Report Post »Ishalan
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:35pmI use to swear I would never own a pit. That was 2 years ago when a little red nosed puppy ran up into our house and hid under the dining room table. I have friends over all the time that swear he acts more like a collie than any pit or bull dog they have ever seen. My wife was the only person he would come out of the table for and follows her around like he was tied to her with a leash. He is the kindest thing I have ever seen. I do not know if it is the love we show him every day or the fact that our other dog a 3 year old beagle took him under her wing so to speak and loved him every day. I just hate to base anything now on stories instead of experiences. Peyton is a true joy in our life. One time when he was less then a full year old we had a good friend come down with his two year old to visit. I asked them just to be safe not to let Peyton in the house with their son unless My wife or I was with him. Somehow he got in one morning and was sitting licking the 2 year old as it took Peyton’s toys and banged on his head with them. I almost had a heartattack at first but then just hugged peyton who was wagging his tail as fast as he could. For good measure he went back to the baby and kissed him again and then laid down at my feet.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:11pmI don’t know bluefish there are OVER 10,000,000 Pitbulls in America and less than .00001% are every involved in attacks. In comparison there are 70,000,000 Blacks in America and .001% are criminals or have committed crimes. Infact you’re 100 times more likely to be a victim of a black crime than a Pit Bull attack. A bigger factor is the dogs don’t have a choice some owners just train them to be mean and all blacks have a choice and some just chose to be thugs. Point is are going to ban blacks who when compared to Pit Bulls are a way more likely to attack people.
Report Post »Here’s a more novel idea hold the owners responsible there,Adolf the animals are innocent.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:25pmHEY CATB,
Report Post »Pit Bull weren’t bred for fighting as you just put oout there. They were originally bred to hunt wild pigs and capture them alive. The dogs will team up and going for the jowels holding the pig until the team capture it. And like any other dog if they are trained propertly with a stern hand and with kindness and affection they never turn out bad ever. It people who train them for protection without a true way of keeping them detained from the population and straight Micheal Vick type ******** that give the breed a bad name. When you think Pit Bull think about petie on the little rascals not Cujo .
Bloody Sam
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:50pmA Collie or German Shepherd could do as much damage if it were treated and trained like some of the pit bulls are.
Report Post »The four-legged animal is not at fault. It is doing what it is trained to do.
The two-legged animal needs to be the one exterminated.
Budweiserdan13
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:52pmIts the owner not the dog! What king of asshat let’s there dog roam free, no matter the breed.
Report Post »Anne Beck
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:39pmMy personal experience with pitt bulls: My neighbor’s pitt bull escaped her “cage” and killed my dog on my property in front of my daughter and grandchildren. Family friend’s pitt attacked a 76 year old woman for knocking on the door (dog came through the storm door). She broke her hip in the fall and was seriously mauled and hospitalized for almost a month. Same friend’s dog attacked her own son just last night. That’s why I have poodles.
Report Post »Pandajerk
Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:16pmYes, the government needs to protect us from those dogs. We need to be protected from guns too, as well as salt. We should outlaw everything that is potentially harmful and not worry about people actually being responsible. They can’t be burdened with looking after their dogs. The problem is, where would we draw the line? Why stop with pit bulls? Let’s outlaw everything with teeth. Fish tanks can have dangerous bacteria, ban those too.
Report Post »Cerealface
Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:37pmLets outlaw everything that kills a person
Such as a Job. Jobs kill people.
Report Post »Lets outlaw those because, how many deaths on the job can we have until we smarten up and outlaw them.
Isala
Posted on June 14, 2011 at 5:30pmPitbulls are wonderful dogs. They can be malused like any other deadly weapon. I just bought my pit an awesome collar at tuffenuffchains.com
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