Pledge of Allegiance Debate Divides NY School District
- Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:54am by
Meredith Jessup
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An upstate New York school board is convening Tuesday evening and will hear community residents‘ concerns about the district’s current policy regarding the Pledge of Allegiance.
The controversy has grown in the North Collins school district and left some casualties in its wake, including Rosemarie Tridle who prides herself on being very patriotic and resigned from her two-year post on the school board in protest on October 26.
At issue is how students in North Collins Elementary School are reciting the Pledge at the start of each school day. Currently, morning announcements are broadcast over the school‘s intercom system and are immediately followed by a recitation of the school’s “character pledge.”
But when it comes to reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, only the first few words of the Pledge are recited by the announcer.
“From that point forward, the student [announcer] cuts out and each individual classroom continues with the full Pledge (of Allegiance) in their own classroom at their own pace,” North Collins Central Schools Superintendent Ben Halsey told WKBW. “So that kindergartners can say it at the rate and speed and understanding that they are capable of. And the sixth graders who are in the building can say it at the rate and the pace and the understanding that they are capable of,” he said.
But Triodl disagrees. “If this can be said as a group (referring to the Character Pledge), there is no excuse that our Pledge of Allegiance cannot be said as a group,” Triodl argues. “I’m 50 years old. The way it was taught to us, we stood as a group. The entire school stood as a group when we said it, and I didn’t understand every single word, but I grew to learn it,” she told WIVB.
Regarding her resignation from the school board, Triodl says, “I can’t be a part of a group that in my opinion does not respect the flag.”
Tridl is not not alone in her concern; over 250 people have signed a petition demanding that the school district read the Pledge of Allegiance in full each morning over the school’s P.A. system.
During a school board meeting planned for Tuesday evening, these upset residents planned to convey their concerns. “We are listening and we have given a lot of time to this issue. And we are not just casting it aside saying we are going to do it a certain way,” Superintendent Halsey says.
In the meantime, a school district committee is reportedly “studying the policy” and is expected to submit its own recommendations to the superintendent by the end of the month.
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captquest
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:18amProgressives hate the pledge, because it mentions that we are a republic, not just a democracy. And of course it mentions God.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:05pmI like the republic part, republics are good. I respect the pledge, but when a large group of people says it at once, it’s eerie to me. Reminds me of Nazi rallies.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:36pmMRLOGAN3, Something tells me you would know all about those Nazi rallies.
Report Post »Hondaman
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:17amAnd these idiots call themselves Americans?????????????????
Report Post »LadyLirpa
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:18pmWhen did this become an argument about undocumented immigrants?
Report Post »john1417
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:10amLmao I‘ve said it befor and I’ll say it again there is two sides the one that believes Big fed Gov. needs more power and those who believe in states rights and limited Gov. It is comming clashing together and only one side is going to win. And who knows which one it will be. Thats what Glenn and others are talking about.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:02amHere’s one for you…when I was in grade school we said….get ready for this….WE SAID…THE LORD’S PRAYER…YES WE DID!!!! (((((SHOCKING)))))….the entire classroom said the LORD’S PRAYER…and it was a public school…GO FIGURE…my religion did not teach the repetition of the Lord’s Prayer, however, my mother instructed me that I WOULD show respect and say it AND the REALLY REALLY WEIRD part is that MY PARENTS actually took the time to teach me why my faith did not believe in the repetitiveness of the Lord’s Prayer and I WAS TAUGHT HOW TO ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A PRAYER TO GOD AND SAY IT ALL BY MYSELF!!!! Did I make fun of my Catholic friends who believed in saying that prayer? NOPE…sure didn’t…I would have been severely punished if I had! OH YEAH, we also began the day with the entire class standing and putting our hand over our little hearts and saying the Pledge…AMAZING…SHOCKING…
Report Post »shellmen
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:21amWhat is to decide? We are taling about the Pledge of Allegiance if someone cannot understand why we hold this to be a good thing for all of us then move out of the country. SCREW PC
Report Post »faires
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:20amIt’s about time these school officials stand the hell up, and not take this crap anymore!__Have some brass & Stand up and say the whole pledge of allegiance!!!__-Political Correct my A$$!_
Report Post »koyettsu
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:06amThe Pledge should be REQUIRED in every school in America, if you don’t want to say it than I would question your loyalty to our country.
Report Post »HouseNegro
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:21amAgree………….
Report Post »benrush
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:29amCollective education is designed to have us arguing with each other rather than fulfilling on the purpose.
It’s no accident, is it, that we spend too much money and education for too little return? We have expensive building and expensive administrators and our children have not learned anything but have become conditioned to conform with the collective.
Not my kids. Not in my America.
Teach your children well. With firm reliance on Divine Providence, teach them character. They are deliberately being dumbed down – they are the target of a lot socialist dreams. They are pawns in someone else’s agenda for them.
As in 1 Samuel 13, the Israelites had no weapons of war because they had to go the Philistines to get anything sharpened, so our children have no ability to reason because they have been educated in a collective to conform with a collectivist worldview.
It’s not an accident.
Report Post »spendthrift
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:23amThis is only one incident that is occuring all over our great country. It’s about tiime we stood up for American Values and define exactly what they are. IT’S ABOUT TIME.
Report Post »benrush
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:22amSpeaking of education – I’m for a Christian one. face.net.
Expose the cockroach communists. This has been their agenda all along – to get GOD our of our children’s lives, progressively, over time, over generations, to discredit the flag, to discredit America, and now, to discredit Glenn for uncovering the cockroaches and termites who have helped bring about this progressive “change”. They want us weakened so we don’t have the spirit to fight them.
They will fail.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:59pmWell, historically speaking, socialism and religion are closely connected. The early Christian communities were run in a socialist system, communal property and such. I definitely think religion should be taught in school though, but all religions, in an unbiased, historical and cultural context.
Report Post »benrush
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:20amYes, BS, you consider yourself moderate. Good for you. THAT’LL mollify us. ROFL.
That’ll enhance your resume fer shur.
Report Post »benrush
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:17amYes, BS, you’re a moderate communist propaganda agent, a slime machine. Slither away.
Report Post »We know what progressive indoctrination is all about, a smear campaign, an attempt at mass deception. Happy trolling.
mrlogan3
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:53pmHow is that trolling. That’s the only problem with this site, anything not conservative is trolling. TBG is trolling. To declare oneself a moderate is not.
Report Post »thebsnetwork
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:03amOn a side note: I’d consider myself moderate. I don’t vote based on party lines. I vote based on what I think is best for America.
In the previous election I voted for Bush. During the 2008 elections I voted Obama; although, I did start liking McCain at the end of the campaign. Sara Palin scared me off though.
Report Post »sean_m.
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:10amlol It’s funny how someone has nothing better to do than to come on a website and mock Glenn Beck. I find it hilarious. Get a life, sir.
Report Post »tea ****** patriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:16am@sean_m.
I totally agree, why don’t these commies get a life and stay off of our boards.
Report Post »thebsnetwork
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:43amwhose mocking Glen Beck?
Report Post »Me? For asking questions? Sorry I ask questions…
But someone has to save the world from BS.
proudinfidel54
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:34amTo Sean_M and Impeach-Bo Have you ever had a pimple on your rear end? It is very irritating but there is nothing you can do about it. If you pop it, it only gets infected and becomes more irritating, it is sort of like responding to Teabaggin Patriot it only makes him show his posteria more (Believe me I have better words I would like to use, but out of respect for Glenn Beck’s Wishes I choose not to, beside that is exactly what ol Tea Baggger wants, then he can run around claiming what crazed fanatics the right are) You ever noticed how he is usually one of the first in line wih a response, and at first he tries not to tip his hand, starting with a little light sarcasm, then, as people challenge his remarks, he begins to thow in a bunch of condesending insults, and if you bite on that, he rears his ugly head of liberalism and and gets down right vile and nasty with his Phsycotic rants, Then he follows up with God bless you or I’ll prey for you, what a hypocrite, we don’t want or need any of your preyers to george soros, in closing, It is best to just leave the little pimple alone to start with .
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:23am@tea ****** patriot
Report Post »You and all your right wingers are a bunch of rasists, why cant you just leave keith oberman along? he is a greate american. he wears a suite and tie and has a short harecut and he dont got no marxsist beard. how can people not beleave what he says? he is a respectful freedom loving american patriot just like you so leeve him along!!!!!
thebsnetwork
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:29am@burntey86
I could be wrong… but I think tea bagging patriot isn’t serious. I really sense a strong sarcastic humor coming from that one.
Report Post »tea ****** patriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:32amSir I would suggest that you tune in to glenns show.
This week he is explaining how Soros is training the teachers union as a private army, and how he plans to resurect the corpse of woodrow wilson and take over the world.
I will pray that you come around and become a real american tea ****** patriot.
TEAmerica
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 4:23amMan…I love you!
Report Post »ozz
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:47am@tea ****** patriot is a TROLL! A spooky dude Soros plant, and a ******* to boot.
Report Post »TEAmerica
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:14amI think Glenn is doing all the Flamin‘ and Trollin’ on this site to prepare us for 2012. I know, I’m fired up and ready for the grill.
Report Post »shane2813
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:45amI don’t think some of these Leftist Loons get it yet. Hey listen up!!!!!!!!! WE THE PEOPLE are running the show now. So you little Leftist Loons can sit down and shut up!. Now remember elections have consequences. MARXIST=DEMOCRATS=TERRORIST All the same. Just ask little Barry.
Report Post »thebsnetwork
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:48amI seriously hope you where being sarcastic…
Report Post »That kind of logic is what will destroy this country.
tea ****** patriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:52am@shane2813,
Exactly, how can all of these lefty loons not realize that if they don’t agree with our conservative agenda then they are terrorists.
Sir you are a true tea ****** american patriot.
God bless you.
Report Post »thebsnetwork
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:18amSo… some one is non-american if they don’t say the pledge? 0_o
Report Post »Personally… I don’t agree with the pledge. I think kids should sing the star spangled banner instead.
Why not? The star spangled banner in my opinion is more patriotic anyways.
TEAmerica
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:16amI do ask myself, “Why the refusal to say the Pledge?”
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:38amI attended the swearing in of 270 new citizens to the US yesterday from 56 countries, some communist, and all recited the “Pledge of Allegience” with no hesitation. Get rid of the Dept of Education and any administrator, teacher, secretary, janitor who thinks patriotic songs and the pledge should be eliminated. Give them a one-way ticket to Cuba or some other communist country and let them work over there for a year or so, bring them back and see if they have had an attitude adjustment. This borders of treason as far as I’m concerned.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:24pmTeamerica people reject the pledge because it says one nation under God and the progressive can Not stand it.
Report Post »Mizpah55
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:15amI am so tired of this stuff I could spit. If you don’t like our wonderful country, the United States of America, then get out of it. I choose to love my country and have no more patience for those who do not. Get out! Go away! Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord, who I believe in, even if you don’t, split you!! Good bye!! So long!!! Get out of my country!!!!!
Report Post »LadyLirpa
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:14pmIt’s not yours.
Report Post »Its Gonna Getcha
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:10amCome on North Collins School District, get it together!
Rarely do children get to feel they are somehow in unison with “the older kids”. Leave it as a group. Concentrate on something that is much more confusing to them. And no, that’s not an invitation to rehabilitate what their parents are eating. F O C U S !
Report Post »Nietsretto
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:02amI have been saying the Pledge since kindergarten. I am a Vietnam era Air Force veteran and it galls me to hear of these progressive attempts to indoctrinate our youth. Unfortunately these activities have been going on far too long and they have become more prevalent recently. I don’t think we have enough tar and feathers to deal with all the progressives in this country. I am so sick and tired of all this political correctness I could spit nails. I say we start at the top and try them all for treason.
Report Post »tea ****** patriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:11amYes,
Let’s try all liberals for treason, because they have different views then us.
Sir you are a true tea ****** american patriot.
God bless you.
Impeach-BO
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:31amNo, little Matty(AKA Tea ****** non-patriot), we’re trying to get rid of the commies, marxist, etc such as yourself who are trying to FUNDEMENTALLY TRANSFORM AMERICA and trash our constitution. Remember that thing? Oh, you probably don’t, it was never taught to you in your school.
Yeah, but I guess trashing our nation is what you actually DO know about. After all, you already know what your end goal is, don’t you? Well, us REAL patriots don’t just say no to this idea, we say, HELL NO!
Do you remember communists and the whole 80′s? Oh, probably not because you were probably in diapers then. Wake up and read history, then come back and talk.
Report Post »tea ****** patriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:46amImpeach-bo,
Why read history when I can watch a drunken crazy man play with puppets everyday at 5:00. Then if I have any questions I can go to his website and “do my own research”
As a tea ****** patriot, why would I believe what all of those college professors told me, when I can listen to a drunk with a high school education.
mrlogan3
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:50pmThe pledge itself is indoctrination. Did you honestly know what “allegiance” was when you were in kindergarten? Or what a “republic” was?
thebsnetwork
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:59amHate to say it… its not the end of the world.
Report Post »They didn’t even say the pledge at my high-school.
alshere
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:32amThe pledge is the pledge. It said to affirm our loyalty to the country we love and honor what it stands for. It is not for a bunch of left leaning moral cripples to argue about. I fought for this country and lost a lot of freinds in the process and it sickens me to hear and see these ungrateful people fool around with something that is sacred to me. Dman them for it.
Report Post »Harvey
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 4:09amGod Bless you Alshere,you are right,every child who turns 18 and as soon as they graduate high school should be required to spend at least two years in the Military before they are allowed to vote or go to College.This would do the United States more good than anything we can do..If any of the children over 16 that gets ib trouble before they get out of high school should be given a choice between the Military and Reforme School.
Report Post »T his would save a lot of our kids,just this month a 19 year old in Tulsa has killed five people over drugs.We must save these kids,they are the future of our Country and if we fail them whats going to happen to them.If they get past the Abortionest theymust be saved.
tea ****** patriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 4:39amYes Harvey,
Because nothing says “freedom” like being forced into military service.
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 11:28amI don’t like TBpatriot but he or she is correct. Harvey, you are wrong! You should want to serve your country not be forced. UNAmerican!!!! That being said… TBpatriot, if we do need to defend our country… I will use your rotting corpse as a stepping stone to get at our attackers… In that way you finally become useful to the American people.
Report Post »God Speed……………… You to Hell!!!!
mrlogan3
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:46pm@harvey Why would we send kids into the military before college. Say goodbye to qualified doctors, lawyers, teachers, and dentists. You don’t send academics to the front lines. I would probably make a horrible soldier in this current war, can’t shoot straight and I hate the heat. But put me in a classroom and that’s where I perform. We can’t send kids to their deaths before they get a chance to learn something. What if they become handicapped while in the service but have no skills or education beyond high school? McDonalds doesn’t pay the bills.
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:05amI can see both sides, however I don’t think this is something a school board member resigns over. I think that is going over board, no pun intended. If it was to leave out “under God” I would resign but they make a point about the different speeds of the kids. Then I agree that saying as school at one time together makes a lot of sense.
http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:44amThe different ages and understanding of the kids would be a logical argument if they followed the same practice for their school “character pledge”. But apparently they say that in full. The logic for one should apply to the other or it’s just an excuse.
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:07amPoint taken, however how long would they have to pause to let everyone say the first pledge then pick up again to say the second pledge. I don’t think there is any harm being done here or any underhanded going on. I would much rather the kids say the pledge at their own pace and learn it better. If you noticed in the clip the classroom had the words on the board and each one was definded. I would say that is pretty good. I did not have that when I was a kid. I just learned it and then later on was able to figure it out what it meant. this is not a major deal, especially resigning form the school board.
http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist
untameable-kate
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:35pmWhen I was in school I went to St Catherines and every morning the whole school went outside, watched the flag raising and said the pledge. We said the pledge standing side by side with our hands over our hearts, I always felt proud of my country and connected to it. The libs don’t want our kids to feel that way.
Report Post »912always
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:23pmI say don’t resign, stay and fight for what is right. Let them fire you if it must be, but keep on fighting. Resigning or being resigned is what got us here in the first place.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:04amI find it counterproductive to almost idiotic how schools over the decades have found the need to “fix” things that were never broken to begin with.
I said the Pledge of Allegiance in the 70′s every morning like every other kid, there was no coddling, you did it and if you were slower you eventually knew it so well you picked up and and got it. My daughter is in upstate NY and they have said it since pre-school and she knows it inside and out, I’m teaching her the Star Spangled Banner (inbetween her singing Juster Beiber songs) so she’s fine…
Simple message to schools, leave those things, that for decades have been perfectly fine… alone!!! Stop screwing around with a formula that has always worked, it is this meddling in things that never needed fixing that continues to screw up our schools, stop being so damned smart that you’re acting stupid!
Report Post »tea ****** patriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:32amBeck warned us this was coming.
They are forcing our children to pledge allegiance to george soros and the teachers union.
Thank you mr beck for educating us on these commie teachers and thier “puppet master”, and for putting all of the information on this one wbsite so I can come here and do my own research. That way when someone says I am blindly following a lunatic, I can say no, I did my own research on theblaze.com, so it must be true.
Rowgue
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:41amThey need to just shut down the department of education. Before we had the department of education the United States was near the top in schoolastic achievment in every category. Since this failboat of a department was put in place our school system has done nothing but go downhill. The only people getting real educations now are people fortunate enough to be able to afford good private schools, or those getting home schooled.
It’s also a massive and unnecessary drain on our economy. Not only is the money that is spent on education wasted money that’s stolen from taxpayers, but every time they want to raise taxes or justify the next insane pet project it’s sold to people as being for education or for our children.
It’s like earmarks. They are used to sell people on things they would otherwise not want, but because they’re being promised that it will help kids a lot of people are stupid enough to go along with it.
Report Post »Impeach-BO
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:24amHello everyone, for those on here who already know Tea ****** Patriot(AKA matty1631) is a union member plant then ignore this message.
He is a Soros union member plant.
Never is and never was a conservative or a tea party member.
Constantly belittling the tea party members and often making racist comments.
He’s already been exposed for the lib-tard union plant he is so just ignore him.
He’s trying to bait real Tea Party members(using the term “tea bagging” is condescending) into agreeing with him and/or saying some of his similar hatefilled rhetoric. Don’t fall for it.
I am here to follow this fake and counter every lying post he promotes. Check the link on my screen name and read the whole page. Sorry little matty, you lose..again.
For anyone new take note. Thank you.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:45am@tea ****** patriot is a TROLL!
Report Post »A spooky dude Soros plant,
and a ******* to boot.
JJ Coolay
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:25amI find it amazing how anti-American so many Americans have become. The PC movement of 10-15 years ago has scared so many people into not wanting to hurt feelings that people have gone way beyond being just sensitive and are now shutting things down like the Pledge of Allegiance.
Report Post »This is bull crap and it needs to stop!!
djaymadd
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:20amMy granddaughter learned the entire pledge at 3. This is a ridiculous excuse.
Report Post »HouseNegro
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:27amNo big surprise coming out of NY. I think the whole state is one of the main breeding grounds for morons(AKA Democrates).
Please people remember what Bob Barker says “Spay and Neuter your Pets”
Report Post »HKS
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:05amNothing to debate here, The pledge is sacred ground, hands off commies.
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:28am@ TEA ******
I often notice your sarcasm getting attacked when you “act” lliberal to shine light on their flaws.
However, I am glad you’re speaking with your own words on this. Glenn has done alot of work to bring alot of very evil people into the public view. I think your comment was right on the mark.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:34amI am a Patriot. I am currently active duty us army, 101st Airborne. I take pride in the flag. Saluting the flag while hearing our national anthem brings me pride in my country. That is ME and my experience.
I am also an Agnostic. Since the middle of high school, I stopped saying the Pledge in the morning. That was my personal reason against it, I did not like “Under God” in the Pledge. I was respectful while everyone else said it.
Now onto my point. I dislike mandatory pledges. It feels very Soviet Union to me. I have to pledge an allegiance to this country? Why? We’re a free society with various degrees of beliefs, whether it’s social or religious beliefs, hell, even nationalities. You’re free to even be Anti-American in my book. I think you’re a hypocrite for staying in America at that point, but to each his own.
The problem is, we no longer have a strict constitutional republic anymore. If we did, I wouldn‘t worry about people like George Soros or President Obama’s radical socialist ideals. They can be president, or own all the media, with a constitutional republic, they can‘t change the foundation of the nation but since we’ve destroyed the Constitution, we do have this possibility.
Say it, don’t say it. This is America. Right now, we have bigger problems to worry about…..
Report Post »valarie
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 11:50amIt sickens me to no end to have to respectfully disagree with an AMERICANSOLDIER but I do on this point.
I grew up saying the Pledge every day since Nursery School. I am also from an immigrant family (I’m the first born in the U.S.) I can say that doing so made me feel that I was really part of an amazing country. I have never had a day where I wasn’t wildly proud and Patriotic. I believe that the UNITY created by saying the Pledge had a lot to do with my current attitude.
Report Post »Impeach-BO
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:12pm@DimmuBorgir
I take it you are a liberal by your Icon pic of Hillary. Well, the deuche ****** matty1631(his real ID) is mocking what Glenn Beck has said to people who watch his show. Oh that’s right…little matty and many other liberals never even watch his show. They regurgitate what one liberal says and then another and then another. It‘s like a comedy act when they finally try to say what they’ve heard its all FUBAR’d.
Let me break it down for you.
Glenn said to do our own homework and check out all the information for ourselves by going to different websites, reading history books, library info, etc. But deuche bagging matty is mocking Glenn when he says he should blindly follow everything on the Blaze.com as gospil truth.
No, litty matty that’s NOT what Glenn said. So again, your commie brain has failed you. Keep trying.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:39pm1. The pledge should be said together, it’s honestly not that hard
Report Post »2. I myself am a liberal and frequently post things that contrast with what others say, but Teabagging Patriot/Matty/Idiot is really starting to get to me. I at least try to raise points that can be supported by research. Coming from a fellow liberal, STOP POSTING!
mrlogan3
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:42pm@americansoldier Agreed. The word that comes to mind for me is facism. We’ve been indoctrinated to say these words since before we knew what they meant. As a recent high school graduate, I can sharply recall the lack of enthusiasm present in the room when the Pledge is said. It’s a droning, monotone sound, no pride in it, well trained.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:24pmfascism, sorry, missed the s
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Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:08pmlet me see if I remember right the schools get FEDERAL funds for all kids in attendance.. How much money would the school lose if 250+ parents kept their kids HOME?? A Kid Cot.. the answer to the UNIONS BOYCOTTS..
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