‘Pole Fitness’ for Jesus? A Form of Worship? One TX Woman Says ‘Yes’
- Posted on March 22, 2011 at 11:21pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Colosians 3:17 gives Christians a charge: “And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.” But I’m not sure pole dancing is what Paul had in mind.
But don’t tell that to Crystal Deans, who runs a program called Pole Fitness for Jesus in Houston, TX.
“On Sundays, we do pole fitness for Jesus,” Deans, a former stripper, tells My Fox Houston. “We do the upbeat contemporary Christian music because people have to bring their church program to get into the class, so we basically are just continuing the whole worship thing here.”
And she has a message for those who may look down on her class:
“Just to get past the whole stigma of the whole thing, I’m very Christian. I go to church every Sunday and I pray. I talk to God things like that I think there’s nothing wrong with what I do. I teach women to feel good about themselves, to feel empowered and we get in really good shape. God is the only person that judges so anybody who wants to judge me, feel free to but I’m good with God, so that’s what’s important to me and I really don’t care what people think.”
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StevenL1955
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:21amMatt 24:10-12
10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.
The increase of wickedness of this day and age is comparable to those of Sodom. And we all know how that story turned out.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:11amJust two words, apostate Christianity!
Report Post »The world and the church don’t mix in the eyes of the Father and the Son!
Especially when it comes from something that got it’s start in a strip club!
How foolish!
pork
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:51amnothing wrong with dancing with polish people…oh wait..thats not it..
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:19amHe in above comment should be capitalized, sorry.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:01amYou are right Ghostrider.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:15amJesus don’t go along with our sins, he forgives them. The sooner all people learn that, the sooner we will improve this country and around the world.
Report Post »Ghostrider
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 9:27amJesus will only forgive sins when you REPENT of them. That means to turn away from your sins. You must be Born Again and be Washed of your sins by His Blood. Jesus forgives us of sin when we turn to Him.
Report Post »freedomofspeech
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 3:13amwasn‘t Jesus’s first miracle changing water to wine at a wedding? didn’t want the party to end?
Report Post »NICE NICE TACO
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:40pmNo, he did not want to do it initially. He asked Mary (his mother), Why are you involving me in this issue, it’s not my problem? Re-read the chapter and you will realize your interpretation is totally wrong. This item had more to do with Jewish tradition than not wanting a party to end.
Report Post »freedomofspeech
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 3:09amAmen, sista.
Report Post »BarbWire
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 3:05amNo, this is not valid worship!
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:04amThis girl spent her dancing money on a …cultural fad….Real mistake…In a short time her poles will wind up as clothes rods …Today it is considered a over worked day when someone has to bend over and pick something up …But exercise if you buy or pay someone or something to move your lazy ass.
Report Post »ClockKing
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:02amReminds me of Madea (Tyler Perry’s alter-ego):
“Madea, when you gonna come back to church?”
“Soon as they get a smokin’ section, I be up there every Sunday.”
This woman is confused and misdirected. She has been taught the touchy-feely, “cool” Jesus new-age Christianity. The “don’t judge me!” garbage. Someone needs to tell her that if you respect yourself, and love God, you don’t do “imitation sex” dancing.
Report Post »Karama
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:32am@FooBear
I normally don’t feed trolls but your lack of biblical knowledge demanded this.
Yes premarital sex is condemned in the bible Paul says it in 1 Corinthians 7:2:
http://biblia.com/bible/esv/1%20Corinthians%207.2
So is polygamy Christ himself condemns that one right in front of the Pharisees in Mark 10:2-12
Report Post »Jesus tells them flat out that God intended marriage to be one man one woman from the beginning but Moses allowed it to shut the Jews up.
Karen D.
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 8:13am& Moses wasn’t God, so what could the poor man do? Thx for posting these!
Report Post »foobear
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 7:35pm@Karama:”Yes premarital sex is condemned in the bible Paul says it in 1 Corinthians 7:2:”
Yes, right there it says premarital sex is wrong! Or, eh. Wait. No it doesn’t.
You can spend as much time as you want trying to find a relevant passage, but the issue isn’t actually addressed anywhere in the Bible.
“So is polygamy Christ himself condemns that one right in front of the Pharisees in Mark 10:2-12″
Again, your Biblical knowledge is inadequate. That passage talks about divorce, not polygamy.
By contrast, Levirate marriage was the basis for social welfare in ancient Israel, which basically meant you had to marry your brother’s wife if he died. This *required* polygamy to function. Read the New Testament at Matthew 22:23-33 – They pose a question directly regarding Levirate marriage to Jesus. Pop quiz: Does he say that Levirate marriage / polygamy is wrong? You answer the question.
My views are orthodox. If they anger people who don’t have a very good grasp on the Bible, so be it.
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:11amye shall know them by thier fruits,,,,empty christianity ,,,its gonna get worse day by day .. dont be fooled by this
Report Post »ldwaddell
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:04amYour beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. 4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight I Peter 3:3
Report Post »Ozymandias
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:01amFeelings good is like having gas….it will pass. This is a silly woman using the Church as bait to attract others to exercise. There is nothing but vanity in this woman. Vanity is what she is sowing and the seed of corruption is what she will reap. This is why I Corinthians 14:34 says that it is a “shame” for a woman to speak or have authority over the man in the Church. Caveat emptor!
Report Post »powedj
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:58amOh Boy, a pole dancer at church. That will increase attendance.
Report Post »Ken
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 9:30amIf she had problems in the past finding a date…she won’t now!
Report Post »ldwaddell
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:46amI love the line that God is the only one who can judge her and since she feels good about it she is good with God and no one can say anything. As long as I am okay with my ridiculous behavior then God is okay with it too and you are judging me unjustly if you disagree. It’s a Christian version of political correctness.
Report Post »Rex Corvinus
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:04amI can hear the defense now:
“So, like, Jesus once said something about not judging or something and so you shouldn’t judge me because Jesus said that was bad.”
Oy vey. I weep for the future when I look at the idiocy of present.
Report Post »medd11
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:40am“But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.”
Report Post »Eph 5:3
foobear
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:05am@Medd11: Want to continue that quote? “Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God”.
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:38amJust go jog, dingbat. You can‘t bend God’s word in your favor. No matter how innocent you want it to be, you’re still acting like a tramp.
Report Post »ldwaddell
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:38amJust another example of Christians lowering the bar to appease the culture and to make a buck. As a confessing Christian I feel embarrassed that someone would use the faith to line their pocketbook and gain 15 min of fame.
Report Post »Karama
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:23amI’m pretty sure this falls under lascivious behavior which is clearly condemned in the Bible. Sure the body is to be a temple and we are supposed to take care of it but there are some lines you just don’t cross and fornicating with a pole would be one of them.
Report Post »foobear
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:50amEh… If you’re fornicating with a pole, you’re really doing it wrong.
Besides, lascivious behavior isn’t clearly condemned in the Bible. Specifically: adultery, prostitution, beastiality, homosexuality and orgies are condemned, to various degrees.
It is incorrect to claim that polygamy, pole dancing or even premarital sex are prohibited by the Bible. They’re not.
Report Post »LAM2
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:19amfoobear — premarital sex is cool with God? You don’t think it falls under the category of sexual immorality or impurity? You must have missed that part where Jesus taught that if a person even looks at another with lust in his/her heart that they have committed adultery with that person in their heart (sin begins in the heart and mind and then can manifest itself further in behavior if acted upon). When one considers all the negative consequences (physical, emotional and spiritual) that sex outside of marriage brings, I can’t imagine anyone (except perhaps someone trying to rationalize their sin?) making the case that premarital sex is either neutral or even good.
Report Post »outathecircle
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:55pmFolks this one needs to learn how to read scripture. Pray for him that he doesnt ruin the faith of others
Report Post »foobear
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 7:25pm@Lam2: “foobear — premarital sex is cool with God? You don’t think it falls under the category of sexual immorality or impurity?”
It‘s an issue I’ve studied substantially since being challenged by a friend to point out the passage against premarital sex. And I actually came to the opposite conclusion than what I was looking for.
In particular, consider the case of a pair of fiancees sleeping together before marriage.
There’s nothing in particular against this, though individual instances could be sinful. For example, a girl lying about her virginity is wrong, though presumably if she’d been sleeping with her fiance, he wouldn’t be feeling very deceived. Likewise, sleeping with another man’s fiance is considered a crime, but sleeping with one’s own, is not. Likewise, sleeping with a virgin and then dumping her was a fineable offense. But not sleeping with a non-virgin. And so forth.
“You must have missed that part where Jesus taught that if a person even looks at another with lust in his/her heart that they have committed adultery with that person in their heart”
How could I miss that passage? The Expounding of the Law is one of the most critical parts of Christianity. But if you’re reading that to mean that two unmarried people could somehow commit adultery, I have a bridge to sell you in Alaska. Adultery is very, very clearly sex between a married person (technically a married woman) and someone not her spouse.
Generally, modern day Christians have tried to argue against premarital sex by defining adultery as extramarital sex with a married person, and fornication as extramarital sex between unmarried people, but the word fornication is a modern invention, never appearing as such in the Bible. It’s a translation of the Greek word “pornea”, which you correctly translated as sexual immorality.
It’s a pretty big category, so if you look at examples of things defined as sexual immorality in the Bible, you’ll see warnings against temple prostitutes (both in the OT and NT), orgies, and so forth.
If you look instead at things considered acceptable in the Bible, these include Abraham sleeping with his handmaiden, Israelites being able to take female captives of war as wives / sex slaves (Deut 21:10-13), the Israelites sleeping with the foreign women (which was bad not due to the sex, but because the women were using the sex to lure the Israelites away from God), polygamy in general, concubinage among the Kings of Israel (David was castigated by Nathan for killing Uriah, not for having multiple wives), and so forth.
Draw your own exegesis from this.
Report Post »Hungry_i
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:11amWhy do I think that this will be mocked as an example of Christian idiocy?
Love the shoes!
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:10amJesus had long hair,body piercings,and dated a ******
Showtime
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:18amHe did?
Report Post »Jon
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:21amReally ????!!!!! Where did you read that?? and let me guess you want pot legalized….
Report Post »Rex Corvinus
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:55amLong hair — Probably.
Piercings — Not even close.
Dated a ****** — This is so wrong as to be comical.
So, 1 for 3. Where I went to school, 33% was a solid F.
Report Post »JJCon
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:08amRex, think a little harder about the body piercings.
Report Post »Tony Cat
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:56amOh, I get it – Body Piercings… as in his hands and feet! Clever.
Report Post »Dated a ******? He did spend time with Mary Magdeline, but I wouldn’t say they “dated”… unless you’ve got another clever use of a homonym, or something ;)
sleazyhippo
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:16pmThink about those boats – lots of fishnets and hooking going down.
Report Post »davuf
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 5:33pmNice
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:19pmLong hair? who said so? maybe, but it was never reported. the woman that broke the perfume over him washed his feet with her long hair – but didn’t catch the part that said Jesus had long hair. He was a Nazarene (meaning he came from Nazareth) not a Nazarite, one who was dedicated to God and was forbidden to cut his hair. 1 Corinthians 11: 14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:21pmBody piercings – I suppose you mean the spikes that nailed Him to the Cross. Dated a ****** – still trying to find that reference.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:03amAt least it’s not a cross….too soon. Come on, Pole fitness, she should be in a Santa outfit. Hello, is this thing on.
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 7:49amIt is said “Spare then rod-spoil the child”….
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:02amIn the case of this, let the Almighty and His standards be the final judge. Let the deeds and actions of her life be the final testimony unto the world as well, for as Jesus said “By their fruits you shall know them.”
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:19amWell, I’d rather have a Christian pole dancer in the White House than the Muslim thug we have in there now.
sissykatz
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:52amsnow and show
Snow that was beautifully put and I agree.
Show I completely AGREE I don’t think she is doing as much wrong as the Muslim in Chief
ClockKing
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 2:04amShow, I’ll take the Witch. At least she’s honest and clear(er)-headed than the pole dancer.
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:25pmWhy wait for God to judge when all you so called Jesus loving *Christians* have already judged?
Why are christians so narrow and dirty minded?
Thank God I have never seen myself as God’s left hand knowing he does NOT need me to tell him what is right or wrong.
I just realized that it is not my doubt of God that is my problem, it is the know it all, better than others, I am right you are wrong people that profess to be believers.
I do not want to ever judge others simply because I *think* I am right.
Who is this woman hurting? No one.
But you all have your rules in place and heaven help anyone that strays from those rules.
I have love in my heart for others.
I forgive when others deserve forgiveness.
I help others from a sense of wanting to help not from earning a place in heaven.
I say what I see as the truth. If you don’t like my answers, don’t ask your questions.
I learn something new each day because learning should never end.
I remember that each of us is different. I don’t tolerate others…..I understand the difference.
I do not go to church…….and yet I have lived my life with truth, honor, love, and forgiveness.
I always try to understand that those who think differently than myself are still worth as much as I am.
Whether christian, protestant, Jew, morman, catholic, etc. etc., is not the God of each the same God of all?
If I ever commit a crime and need a jury, I prefer a jury of 12 atheists, with forgiveness and understanding in their hearts, rather than 12 closed minded better than me chistians.
I have had enough here.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:00amWhere’s this gonna end ?
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:18amThat will depend on how large of a gathering she continues to have; and how long the Almighty allows it to succeed or come to an end.
As the article states, the church members bring the program to them, so the final yea or nay will lay at the feet of the congregations themselves.
Just as with the previous article of married and unmarried pastors, it is the congregations who are the final chosers within any church; the pastor and his aids of the elders and deacons/deaconesses are the custodians and guides of the flock.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:19amAt the bottom of the pole.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:21amMaybe she could perform at the Church they started at the Bar.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:32amThe secularization of America’s mainline denominations…
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 1:46amRobert-CA
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 12:00am
Where’s this gonna end ?
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Probably at “selling my body on a street corner for Jesus” or some such nonsense.
(New) subject…
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Bob Holland
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 3:48amShe is going to be shocked one day as she looks back on her life and realizes that when she thought she knew everything that she actually knew nothing. I hope she recognizes this soon before she continues to humiliate herself even more.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 5:07am@Robert-CA
Report Post »I believe God will be answering that. I feel that His answer will be totally different from hers since the Bible warns of doing things in a sexual manner that can entice men and lead them astray. I think that it would probably be a safe bet that the large majority of the congregation is men.
AriBenTZion
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:06amThis is twisted.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:25amIt reminds me of Larry Flyntt’s pretense that he had become a Christian but was still producing porn. He said he would be a “Huslter for the Lord”. He had the wrong master in mind.
To call this woman a Jezebel would be an understatement.
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:53amProblem solved…..The young pencil necked preacher who cant get a job because he doesnt have a wife should drop in and hussle up one of the Christian dancers, maybe that will improve his chances.
Report Post »ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 9:37amWhat?! Women feeling good about themselves? Women feeling empowered? In the eyes of Jesus, a woman is supposed to be two things: a faithful, obedient wife and a good mother! I don’t mind her dancing on the pole out in the garage with her boobies shaking, but she best know her place in the eyes of God and her Husband.
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:22amBless their Hearts!
Report Post »DLG123
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:40amThose crazy Catholics always… wait this is from a protestant denomination… Never mind
Report Post »gsplgtr
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:45amSnow If you go to 1 Thesselonians 5:22 it reads; “Abstain from ALL appearence of evil” How big the congregation gets is totally irrelevant. Satan uses things like this to decieve believers and to distract people from seeking a real relationship with the Savior. And to all you other enablers, If a person has a real relationship with the savior, they already feel good about themselves. They don’t and wont need a pole dancing session for that!
Report Post »black9897
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:47amIf a wife wants to Pole dance for her husband in the privacy of their home, that’s fine. If women want to take classes to get in shape, learn how to do that, or feel better about them selves, that’s great…but don’t bring Jesus into this and call it “Christian pole dancing” that’s just not good at all. Sry, doesn’t work.
Report Post »LibertyGoddess
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 11:32amUnreal the “Christian” comments made on these boards. It’s a good thing Christ looks upon the heart. This woman would never stand a chance around the arrogance displayed here.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:07pmThere’s nothing new here……….Deuteronomy 12:8 Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes. Judges 17:6 In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes. Judges 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Report Post »Just makes us look like very slow learners………..or non readers.
sleazyhippo
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 4:10pmThey just want to be Tax Free. By the way, James O’Keefe just asked for money to bail out his credit accounts, saying he will close down one Government Funded entity fro every $50,00 we send him. Maybe he could start a church and begin a religion of Breitbartism to save money.
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:06pmdid you read the other story about countries losing their religion?
Go read Robert Heinlein’s “Stranger in a Strange Land”
Report Post »Thesimpletruth
Posted on March 23, 2011 at 6:54pmWell, as long as people use their own “guidance” and NOT the word of GOD, there is no end to what people can conjure up and call “christian”. It is interesting how this woman only refers to what she feels or believes, yet claiming to know GOD, and not once does she use scripture to justify her “exercise program”. We are living in some very trying times and we as christians must constantly study the scriptures and compare this to what is out there and being called “christian”. We are not supposed to go by how we feel or what “I” think is right, but what our Creator says is right in HIS EYES. Paul the apostle said himself that we as followers of Jesus are to think of others. He himself said that he would not eat meat itself if it caused a weaker believer to stumble as he thought of the other person being more important than himself. There is a very wishy-washy false gospel out in this nation today basically saying anything goes as long as it has “christian”stamped on it. There are many churches packed out every week, with little impact around them due to this luke warm message being promoted. The word of GOD is to be are final authority, period… If this woman tries to say she does not care what people think, that is where her heart is, for “out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks”. I am not judging her, GODs word sheds the light on all falsehood and she herself will have to answer him face to face, just as I will……
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