Police Serve Planned Parenthood With Search Warrant for Aborted Fetus in Child Rape Case
- Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:00pm by
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Police in Spokane, Wash. served a local Planned Parenthood with a search warrant Wednesday to take DNA evidence from an aborted fetus as part of an investigation into a child rape case.
According to Spokane’s KREM 2 News, police hope to prove paternity by pulling DNA from the aborted fetal tissue to and matching it to that of a 21-year-old suspect accused in the third-degree rape of a child.
Records say the victim, whose name is not being used, became pregnant in early August. When her parents found out from her school the next month, they took her to Planned Parenthood where she had an abortion Sept. 20.
At the same time, police served Planned Parenthood with a warrant to seize the aborted fetus for DNA testing to bolster their case against the suspect, who has not yet been charged.
Karl Eastlund, interim CEO of the Spokane-area Planned Parenthood, told KREM he couldn’t comment on the specifics of the case due to privacy laws, but said they are cooperating with authorities.
“We are a proud partner with law enforcement and we work with them a lot,” he said.
According to KREM, this is not the first instance of local law enforcement using DNA from an aborted fetus as part of an investigation.
The testing is expected to take up to several weeks.
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MarysSorrows
Posted on September 25, 2011 at 11:55am“Each religion or faith must find a way of explaining and providing guidance on issues of sex and sexual relationships among young people, which support s rather than denies their experiences and needs. By highlighting strong values in faiths and religions, and overcoming stigma and stereotypes that religious conventions perpetuate, communities and leaders can help improve young people’s access to sexual and reproductive health information and services, and so improve their health and well – being.”
Ephesians 5:5: Be sure of this, that no fornicator or impure man, or one who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Here is what Planned Parenthood sees as a human right for your kids as young as ten years old:
Sexual and reproductive rights
Young people have the right to life, liberty, security of the person and bodily integrity
Young people have the right to privacy, which is essential to the exercise of sexual autonomy
Young people have the right to confidentiality regarding sexual health services and care
Young people have the right to access information and education about sexual rights, sexual orientation, sexuality, social relationships and gender identity
Young people have the right to choose whether or not to marry and to found and plan a family.
Report Post »MarysSorrows
Posted on September 25, 2011 at 11:54amYoung people’s sexuality is still contentious for many religious institutions. Fundamentalist and other religious groups the – Catholic Church and madrasas (Islamic schools) for example – have imposed tremendous barriers that prevent young people, particularly, from obtaining information and services related to sex and reproduction. Currently, many religious teachings deny the pleasurable and positive aspects of sex (**NOTE – fornication is strictly forbidden by the bible) and limited guidelines for sexual education often focus on abstinence before marriage (although evidence show s this strategy has been ineffective in many settings). (**NOTE – Abstinence is biblical, everything Planned Parenthood proposes is not).
The reality is, young people are sexual beings and many of them are religious as well. There is a need for pragmatism, to address life as it is and not as it might be in an ideal world.
Report Post »MarysSorrows
Posted on September 25, 2011 at 11:52amThey dont mention her age, but one can assume she is around 12 to 17yrs of age. We do not know if this was an actual rape or if the girl consented…maybe the parents pressed the charges because they disliked him or her age..who knows..either way I am sure the girl will carry her Cross knowing HER child who was HER flesh HER blood too was aborted…
Jeremiah 1:5: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
Isaiah 49:1: Listen to me, O coastlands, and hearken, you peoples from afar. The LORD called me from the womb, from the body of my mother he named my name.
Psalm 139:13: For thou didst form my inward parts, thou didst knit me together in my mother’s womb.
Luke 1:44: For behold, when the voice of your greeting came to my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy.
“Culture, religion and traditions are some of the biggest obstacles in implementing sexual and reproductive health programmes for young people.”
“Faith and spirituality have their pros and cons. On one hand, it puts up a set of rules and regulations which if followed properly, make you a better person. On the other hand, it curbs growth of some issues which are necessary for the better upbringing of present- day adolescents.”
Young people’s sexuality is still contentious for many religious institutions. Fundamentalist and other religious groups the – Catholic Church and madrasas (Islamic sch
Report Post »Lolly811
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:38pmWhat about the young girl that was raped. Why should she have to suffer for another 9 months, with the constant reminder of what happened to her. You don’t know how old she was. Why should she have to suffer through the pain of labor. Hasn’t she been through enough? As for all of you who are condiming abortion, will you take into your home the unwanted babies? I think not. Also remember genes. That child might grow up to be violent just like it’s father. You all make me sick with your holier than thou attitude.
Report Post »John Henry
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:10pmI fear you are sick of mind already. Sad that all you can condemn is those with compassion, but the man who abused her gets little abuse from you. Why don’t you adopt the child. Oh wait you fear the genes of those inferior to you. Ok find your rock and crawl back under it.
Report Post »Rwg0417
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:25pmWow, lolly811you paint with a large brush. I am a conservative. Will I take a child like this into my? Yep! Done it twice already. You worry about the young mother living her life after giving birth? Have you ever spoken to women after they had an abortion? Abortion is more destructive to the long term emotional health of the mother than giving birth and adoption. Any idea who the single largest group of adoptive parents might be…..? Christians. You might pause before condemning others next time.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:20pmLiberal Democrat judges will throw this evidence out because child sex is one of the most important sacraments of of the Liberal Atheist religion. The First Amendment protects Planned Parenthood on religious grounds. Some may look on what happened as rape but others (in judicial power) look on it as a Atheist religious sacrament.
Report Post »alina.bolero
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 4:40amYeah, there is a great deal of fire ‘n brimstone around these parts, directed at us Godless heathens.
I’d be fine with a federal ban on abortion past some measurable threshold of brain wave activity of the fetus. … somewhere around 60 – 70 days after conception. If you don’t know your body well enough to know you may be pregnant by that point, too bad, you are going to have a baby.
http://eileen.250x.com/Main/Einstein/Brain_Waves.htm
Forcing an expected outcome, a viable fetus, based solely on potential, is the same sort of “compassion” for the “good of the many” that leads you right to “from each, according to their ability … to each, according to their need”.
No government should ever have the right to kill ANY human being, except in defence of the sovereignty and its people. Sorry, but an embryo that is not self aware and has no concept of pain is not yet a person. Potential to be one? Yes, but not one.
Report Post »TheGothicConservative
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 9:57pmOne: Why should the baby have to die? It didn’t do anything wrong.
Report Post »Two: Violence isn’t hereditary
Three: You’re a totally moron. Need proof? Please read Points One and Two.
Bullhorn Guy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:40pmHey, a story from my town! I feel like I’m almost famous.
Report Post »Lost Rebel
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:27pmAre you aware there is a move to decriminalize pedophilia in America? That and incest are a plank of Islam. It must be made legal because they have practiced it forever. We cannot allow this. There are so many things coming to America and so many Americans are in la-la land.
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:38pmI hope the DNA proves who the rapist is. I do not know the age of the victim. As a woman, parent, survivor, I would NEVER take my daughter for an abortion. It was a vile, criminal act & the attacker should be punished. The innocent baby should not be punished with the death penalty for a crime he/she did not commit. Adoption is a good alternative to death. God bless the little children. Jesus, hold them in your arms. God bless the victim of this crime. God help her parents.
Report Post »Lolly811
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:22pmJust exactly what are you a survivor of? How dare you judge these parents. You have no idea of the age of the girl for one. Why should that girl go through the anguish of carrying that child for 9 months, go through the pain of labor. Have you no sympathy for that young girl?
Report Post »mimishebear
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:23pmLolly811- Just FYI if you listen to the news broadcast it says that the victim is 15 years old. It is a horrible thing that happened to her but every child is a blessing. And yes, I would adopt a child because I have already done so. So as for telling others not to judge, you might want to look in the mirror and stop judging yourself. Just sayin’!
Report Post »TheGothicConservative
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 9:58pm@lolly Have you no sympathy for the unborn child?
Report Post »Opinionmonger
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:18amAs to be expected :
Report Post »Everybody is babbling without ANY real facts.
scootyscot
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:37am“Discord” – It‘s 2011 and we have the science to know what’s going on and whether or not there’s a seperate human being. Tune in to SilentScream . org and view an average 1st trimester abortion for yourself. This is what you currently support. It’s hosted by Dr Nathanson who helped abortion become legal and founded NARAL. He later became pro-life b/c of what was going on within the womb.
“…after fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being….Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception.” ~Dr Jerome LeJeune (discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down sydrome), Univ of Descartes in Paris
“…the beginning is conception. This straightforward biological fact should not be distorted to serve sociological, political, or economic goals.” ~Dr Watson Bowes, Univ of CO Medical School
…human life is present throughout this entire sequence from conception to adulthood….This is human life at every stage. ~Dr. Alfred Bongioanni, Univ of Pennsylvania
The heart starts beating around 3 weeks. A woman does not have 2 hearts, 4 arms, and 4 legs. There’s a seperate human being there (created by a man and a woman).
“The basic fact is simple: life begins not at birth, but conception.” ~Ashley Montague, geneticist and professor at Harvard and Rutgers
SilentScream . org (SilentNoMoreAwareness . org)
Report Post »freeforevervet
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:36amNoun 1. atheist – someone who denies the existence of god.
Now , ito not believe in God…wouldn’t one have to acknowledge tha God exists?…..things that make you go hmmmm
Report Post »Abysmal
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:07pmYes.. You are using a trick of words and you confused yourself. Approach the same definition of from the angle of disbelief, rather than denial, and the implication vanishes.
Report Post »Trance
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:40pmI’d say that definition is poorly worded. Better would be “a person who does not believe in the existence of a god” Your definition would be the same as defining a Christian as “Somebody who claims Jesus is the son of God”. Better would be “Somebody who believes Jesus is the son of God” This is simply because the belief in anything supernatural is a faith based belief and not a fact based belief.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:24pmTrance ‘
Report Post »“A person who does not believe in the existence of a god” is not a more accurate definition because that would also include agnostics – people who do not claim to know whether there is or is not a God and do not believe that it is possible to know.
OldVietVet
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:09amThis is a non-story if not for the participation of Planned Parenthood! They are cooperating with the law enforcement agencies BECAUSE of a court order which is issued under a criminal investigation! This doesn’t make them innocent of what I consider murder–it just means the law has the upper hand in this case and they had no choice! We need to change the law governing abortion folks!!!!
Report Post »lainpa
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:51amYes, they are cooperating under court order, but if the girl was underage then the sex act was a crime and by law PP must report it. They did not, therefore they are complicent in not one crime but two!
Report Post »BJColter Country Music Iconoclast
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:26amPlanned Parenthoods plan, under Sanger, was to wipe out blacks and eastern Europeans. Sanger wanted to murder these races, knew she couldn’t, and settle for murder of the unborn in her ideology. She was in on the development of eugenics, and attended numerous meetings with Nazis. She worked on eugenics with Averell Harriman in his Cold Springs Harbor Laboratory, the same lab the Genome Project is located. The Genome Project is attempting to change the “human germ”, the essence of humanity.
Report Post »duek
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:54amIn your leisure today, do some homework on PP and Margaret Sanger. A firm believer in eugenics and all its nasty little details. She was a vile racist of the most despicable kind
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:52amPokemon: The First Movie
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:55amOopsy daisy, wrong thread.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:13amThanks for the explanation, I thought I just hadn’t had enough coffee.
Report Post »scootyscot
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:41am“Discord” – It‘s 2011 and we have the science & technology to know what’s going on and whether or not there’s a seperate human being. Tune in to SilentScream . org and view an average 1st trimester abortion for yourself. This is what you currently support. It’s hosted by Dr Nathanson who helped abortion become legal and founded NARAL. He later became pro-life b/c of what was going on within the womb.
“…after fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being….Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception.” ~Dr Jerome LeJeune (discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down sydrome), Univ of Descartes in Paris
“…the beginning is conception. This straightforward biological fact should not be distorted to serve sociological, political, or economic goals.” ~Dr Watson Bowes, Univ of CO Medical School
…human life is present throughout this entire sequence from conception to adulthood….This is human life at every stage. ~Dr. Alfred Bongioanni, Univ of Pennsylvania
The heart starts beating around 3 weeks. A woman does not have 2 hearts, 4 arms, and 4 legs. There’s a seperate human being there (created by a man and a woman).
“The basic fact is simple: life begins not at birth, but conception.” ~Ashley Montague, geneticist and professor at Harvard and Rutgers
SilentScream . org (SilentNoMoreAwareness . org)
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:44amPlanned Parenthood is an extraordinarily helpful organization not only in helping women who need to have abortions, but for providing free gynecological care as well. I happily support them.
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:06amAre you sure that you “happily support” baby murderers? Apparently you do not believe in/follow God since what they do goes totally opposite of what Gods Word says.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:32amI am an atheist, thank you. And it is not baby murder, no more than eating a walnut is eating a walnut tree.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:08am@Discord – Following your logic, murdering you today would simply be a delayed abortion. Gotta love moral equivalency.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:27amPlease explain which part of my logic gives you that idea, I’m curious.
Report Post »duek
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:47amIn your leisure today. look up the name Margaret Sanger and note her particular fondness for the practice of eugenics. She was a vile racist and started Planned Parenthood. Although I suspect you already know this and don’t particularly care.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:03amThe ideology of planned parenthood has obviously changed radically. At this point, you are correct and I don’t care.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:16amI got news for you, most people who go to abortion clinics have no desire to have a kid. They go for either birth control, which is free, or abortions. It‘s been that way since I became aware of it in the 80’s. I had a friend who’s mom was extremely religious, so she got free bc from there. I had a girlfriend of a friend’s cousin (but I did know her) get 3 abortions in highschool, that was her form of birth control. And most people who go there could probably just as easily go to a clinic (not abortion, but medical clinic) and get free exams.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:38amI never implied that everyone who goes there did intend to have children.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:52amDon’t give Discord beliefs a forum. He/She is committed to to his/her beliefs just as we are. Judgement comes later and not by us. He/She appears to believe murder is okay. I suggest that from now on no one responds to any of his/her postings.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:56amThank you, o leader of the Blaze.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:56amAnd if you would read my posts (and perhaps read them over again), you’d realize that I do not in fact advocate murder.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:00am(Oh yes, and for the record, I am male.)
Report Post »georgiavietvet
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:33amdiscord……………………….. you are supporting murdering babies. GOD will not look favorably on you when your time comes to answer to him. you might want to rethink your ideas on suppoting pp.
Report Post »Gavinwcaf
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:19amYes hitler would be proud of them,
Report Post »cgizzy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:24amI dont believe or advocate for abortions. I do think they are wrong and I do believe strongly in god. However, I have to agree with Discord. While I dont agree with the abortion aspect of planned parenthood, they do offer a lot of services. I use them to get my yearly check up and perscription to birth control. I dont have inssurance (something I choose not to do, based on my medical history and how often I have ever needed to see a doctor) and I dont qualify for their “free or reduced services;” however, they are very affordable, considering I’m on a tight budget.
I know the history of PP, and Sanger is a deplorable woman. That being said, I‘d support them much more if they weren’t government funded. I’d even pay an increase in fees if thats what it took.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:51pmGuys, how do you not understand that God is about as valid an argument as the tooth fairy?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:02amAbortion for the win!
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:06amLOL these headlines crack me up. This one makes it sound like Planned Parenthood was trying to hide the aborted fetus or something… The one about Alec Baldwin was great (until they changed it), making it seem like that racially charged derogatory comment was his, when it had absolutely nothing to do with him. Keep up the propaganda, Blaze.
Report Post »Right_on_the_Left_Coast
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:48amWas there there anything misreported in the story? Just because the headline could be misunderstood, that makes it “propaganda?” Have you never noticed that headlines are often a little vague, simply due to their brevity? There are whole books devoted to such headlines.
And do you think that Blaze readers are just reading the headlines and then moving on?
How about this, if you want to see some real examples of propaganda (meaning misinformation, and deliberate distortion of the facts, within the actual text of the articles themselves) go pay a visit to Media Matters and the Huffington Post. They produce the real deal.
Report Post »Bluzie
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:29amI agree with you on the headline part Nick, nothing but attention grabbing sensationalism.
I’m on Huff Po a lot to debate the lefties on all of the fallacies they post so I have a baseline of comparison. I can assure you, no outlet has more inflated, misleading propaganda headlines than Huff Po.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:13amThe parents decided to abort the 1 month fetus of the rapist. Got a problem with that? The Parents apparently filed a complaint and told the detectives where to obtain the DNA proof. Got a problem with that? The rapist will end up in jail and hopefully the child will suffer no disgrace. Got a problem with that?
Report Post »I don’t. But i also don’t think PP should be funded 1 nickel by taxes which represent forced participation in PP corrupt activities by taxpayers who might.
Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:35amThat’s not how you spell Gandhi.
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:50amNo to answer your question I do not have a problem with putting a dangerous rapist in prison.
Report Post »The DNA could and should have been retrieved from a LIVE BABY!
This is a tragedy all the way around. A child was raped…another murdered at the had of his or her mother.
Heartbreaking.
Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:36amA fetus is, by definition, a parasite. Unless whomever is pregnant happens to want to raise a child, they should not have to let an unwanted mass of cells feed off of them and cause them grief. That’s simply ridiculous.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:34am@Discord, thank your own mother for not considering YOU a parasite to be eradicated from her body, heartless swine….
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:58amMy mother had planned to have a child. She is as big of a supporter of choice and Planned Parenthood as I am. I would likely not be here if it weren’t fore them, in retrospect. I’ll leave it at that.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:12am@ Discord – a progressive is a parasite by definition; a fetus is a living human being. Get your facts right.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:26amGet your politics out of my biology (and while your’re doing that, get your biology right.)
Report Post »JohnHW
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:56amRapist. The age of the man was stated as 21, but nowhere was the age of the female stated. She could have been one day less than 18. They are looking to charge this as a 3rd degree rape. That means that she gave her consent to having sex. The law NOW says that a child is someone under the age of 18, unless, they want to charge a child as an adult. In other words, if a girl is 16 and shoplifts something, the DA could charge her as an adult, but let her lie about her age as 18 (and most guys can’t tell the difference between an 18 or a 16 year old anymore) while giving her consent and authorities will charge the guy with rape if there is more than a year difference in age.
Now, as far as Planned Parenthood is concerned, did you notice that the parents, who took her there, were the ones WHO CONTACTED THE POLICE and told them where (and when) she would be going. Tissue?? that is removed from the girl is destroyed very quickly if the police had not requested. it
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:20am@Discord
you have to remember, at some point in your life, you were just that same mass of cells. So, you were a parasite. If we follow you’re reasoning, all parasites should be killed. Does that also mean the parasites that exist on the government teat? Does that include you also? Some say as high as 47% don’t pay taxes, yet they all have cell phones, free medical, food stamps, etc.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:39amIf I had been aborted for whatever reason, I preeetty certain I would not care since well, you know, I would not exist. So…Yeah.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:42amOh, and of course not all parasites should be gotten rid of, only the ones that are unwanted. There are people who want children, obviously. Heck, there was a guy who allowed a bot fly larva to grown inside his hand in order to observe it. There would be no reason to remove it other than the hosts’ desire to, which they may or may not even have.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:22amYou are still one sick, heartless swine. Hey, it’s just a collection of cells, right? So why stop when the BABY is still in the womb? Why not just kill the CHILD at birth? Using your “logic,” I guess you think it‘s also OK for a woman to strangle her newborn baby and toss him over a fence because it’s her “choice.”
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2011/09/09/edmonton-effert-infanticide-suspended-sentence.html
And you probably don’t mind a teenaged girl stabbing her newborn baby 135 times then tossing her into a trashcan because, again, it’s her “choice” as a “mother.”
http://www.startribune.com/local/east/35323774.html
May God have mercy on you and your kind who think that a baby is an inconvenience or a burden. Here’s an idea. How about PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY?? If the woman doesn’t want to get knocked up, then perhaps she should keep her legs closed? And while we’re at it, it‘s a crying shame that your own walking incubator didn’t choose to be more responsible and instill some values in you. Oh wait, I guess she did. Too bad it’s the kind of “values” that fight ferociously for the “right” to murder innocent unborn children yet will also fight to keep a condemned, deranged murder off of death row. How the heck does THAT make any sense?? We’ll continue to pray for soulless creatures such as yourself.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:26amOnce a baby is born, it is no longer a part of its mother’s body and therefore it is a separate person.
Report Post »Please do not put words in my mouth and think before you find yourself overcome with whatever it is you’re feeling.
heroc
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:26amDISCORD
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:36am
“A fetus is, by definition, a parasite.”
http://herestheblood.com/
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:33amI’d also like to ask, don’t we as men (I apologize if you are female.) have the same amount of responsibility if abstinence is indeed the best way to prevent pregnancy, or are we just fine and dandy because we do not bear the equipment to host offspring? Is it the woman’s fault if she decides to have sex with a man and does the man have no accountability?
Report Post »You know, you can avoid pregnancy by avoiding sex. You can also avoid getting salmonella by not eating. And having a roof collapse on you by not living in a house.
Stuff happens; that’s no reason not to live your life.
Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:34amHeroc, appeal to emotion doesn’t mean anything and is not the way to win an argument.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:38amIt’s also incredibly low to compare abortion to tragedies like the holocaust, you should be ashamed. In massacres like those, lives of people who had families, friends and siblings who knew and cared about them as developed, thinking and feeling individuals with memories and a prior existence, were lost. When a fetus is aborted, nothing has even begun; there is no one to miss, no one to feel any pain and no reason to feel regret.
Report Post »scootyscot
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:26am“Discord” – It‘s 2011 and we have the science to know what’s going on and whether or not there’s a seperate human being. Tune in to SilentScream . org and view an average 1st trimester abortion for yourself. This is what you currently support. It’s hosted by Dr Nathanson who helped abortion become legal and founded NARAL. He later became pro-life b/c of what was going on within the womb.
“…after fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being….Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception.” ~Dr Jerome LeJeune (discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down sydrome), Univ of Descartes in Paris
“…the beginning is conception. This straightforward biological fact should not be distorted to serve sociological, political, or economic goals.” ~Dr Watson Bowes, Univ of CO Medical School
…human life is present throughout this entire sequence from conception to adulthood….This is human life at every stage. ~Dr. Alfred Bongioanni, Univ of Pennsylvania
The heart starts beating around 3 weeks. A woman does not have 2 hearts, 4 arms, and 4 legs. There’s a seperate human being there (created by a man and a woman).
“The basic fact is simple: life begins not at birth, but conception.” ~Ashley Montague, geneticist and professor at Harvard and Rutgers
“Modern technology have convinced us that beyond question the unborn child is simply another human being , another member of the human community, indistinguishable in ever
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:49pmYou are using quoted from individual people giving their personal worldview, not the results of studies.
Report Post »Please learn science.
Elena2010
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:05am@Bushie — statutory rape usually applies to children having sex w/other children as well as older perps.
Where were the parents? Where did the rape happen since it sounds as if they knew the perp?
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:34amThat varies from state to state. Most states specify a minimum difference in age so that it is not a crime to have sex with a person of the same age. This is the case in Washington.
(1) A person is guilty of rape of a child in the third degree when the person has sexual intercourse with another who is at least fourteen years old but less than sixteen years old and not married to the perpetrator and the perpetrator is at least forty-eight months older than the victim.
It doesn’t say here, but this girl is fifteen so she must have been at least fourteen at the time of conception. If she were younger it would be first or second degree rape and an age difference of less than 24 or 36 months would make it a crime.
This makes sense, because if it were a crime to sleep with a person of the same age, the girl would technically be as guilty as the boy. Sticking two high school sweethearts with a felony sex rap that would follow them for their whole lives wouldn’t benefit anyone.
Report Post »Michael
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:41amHow many times did law enforcement miss a chance to get a child rapist because planned parenthood would not report a young girl going in?
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:46amA young girl going in for an abortion does not imply rape. A 14 year old girl can get pregnant from a 14 year old boy.
Also, how jaded are you to assume the worst? This article emphasizes their cooperation with police and you immediately – with no basis – that the number of times they don’t cooperate outnumbers the times they do. You are one stone’s throw away from paranoid.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:20am@12 – the search warrant was used to make sure that they got the DNA, and did so with a good chain of evidence. Without it, anyone with standing could claim it was illegally seized. No sensationalism here, just the facts …
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:47pmOh, you are such law abiding people, Planned Parenthood. It just amazes me….
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:45amThey are.
Report Post »Right_on_the_Left_Coast
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:53amI personally despise Planned Parenthood. But you should really read the story before you comment. The story is about their cooperation with the law, not that they’re in trouble with the law.
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