Police: Sikh Temple Shooting Being Handled as ‘Domestic Terrorism,’ FBI Taking Over Investigation
- Posted on August 5, 2012 at 5:46pm by
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An ambulance drives down Howell Ave SWAT officers surround the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin where at least one gunman fired upon people at a service. (Photo: Getty Images)
OAK CREEK, Wis. (AP) — Police in Wisconsin say the FBI will handle the investigation of shootings at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee.
Oak Creek Police Chief John Edwards says the case is being treated as a domestic terrorism case and the FBI is better equipped to handle that.
Here is Edwards’ explanation:
Edwards added during the news conference Sunday afternoon that seven people are dead, including the suspected shooter, and three people are wounded. One of those is a police officer shot by the suspect.
According to JS Online out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a congressional letter in April urged the FBI to track hate crimes against Sikhs:
Ninety-two members of U.S. Congress signed a letter to the Department of Justice in April urging the FBI to collect information on hate crimes committed against Sikh Americans, according to Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.)
Crowley’s Web page says Sikh Americans are members of a community “that is acutely susceptible to violence because of their appearance.”
“The more information our law enforcement agencies have on violence against Sikh-Americans, the more they can do to help prevent these crimes and bring those who commit them to justice,” Crowley says in a statement posted on his Web page.
“The Department of Justice and FBI have carried out important outreach efforts in coalition with the Sikh community, but these efforts must also be paired with data collection to ensure we are doing everything possible,” it says.
The shootings happened about 10:30 a.m. as people were gathering for a service at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, which is just south of Milwaukee.
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Comments (167)
Jimmie427
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:49pmGet used to it. Everything crackers do will be domestic terrorism. Everything a Muslim military person does will be job related. This is the way it will be from now on.
Report Post »Ohello
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:16pmAll the white hispanic and black white hispanic crackers all do hate crimes on blacks and muslims especially the white black african americans who kill each other on the south side of Chicago. The city where the dear leader launched his campaign in SDS Weatherman pentagon bomber’s house. With a president that idolizes communist anarchist domestic terrorists, it is just an expression of society’s demise.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:51pmI heard (and saw on the news) a person that talked to a witness say the shooter was white, about 6 feet tall, black pants, white t-shirt and had a 9/11 tattoo. Guess we’ll find out tomorrow, maybe.
Report Post »XScramblerX
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:14pmThese false attacks are purposely executed for :
1- Gun control
2- Further the non existent “domestic terrorists” agenda that will facilitate in the police state.
3- Bigger TSA. They’ll be everywhere.
These planned attacks on Americans will continue until the people beg for a POLICE STATE.
Report Post »I’ll just watch the lemmings line up to jump off the cliff.
Red Meat
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:20pmThe stench of the Obama WH is all over this one.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:40pmHomeland Security and FBI are two federal departments that need to be de-funded before they completely destroy this country. Under these departments, everything is terrorism and justifies the communistic police state we are almost living in. We are just one or two more mass shootings before we are living in a total police state.
Report Post »KyleD
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:56pmJust in case you thought otherwise Sikhs are not muslims. They are often mistaken for muslims because the men wear turbans but they are very different.
Report Post »BlenGeck
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:01amIt’s only domestic terrorism if a white boy does it!!! Heil Holder, Heil Obama, get used tro saying it!
Report Post »RanScot
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:37amYep, and Black crime is because of poverty or racism.
Report Post »People aren’t responsible for their actions.
ViewPointtt
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:25amSikh Temple False Flag Shooting
Witness: 4 Men Dressed in Black Opened Fire on Congregation
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSvex9GYPlc
Bluefish49
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:35amExactly…the WH has yet to classify the Fort Hood Shooting an act of domestic terrorism….go figure….look out gun owners…this was the one they needed. I seem to remember something coming out of the WH about domestic terrorists being our own military also…..just wait, buy ammo and hide your weapons.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:07amHe has now been reported as a soldier who never progressed beyond the rank of SP4, or grade of E4, and discharged under less than honorable conditions. Meaning that he could not have re-enlisted had he desired to do so.
Report Post »raspberrytea
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:42pmI can just hear “Bloomers” in the morning yelling about more gun
Report Post »control.
justangry
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:08pmThe Senate already tried to slip in a gun control ammendment into the internet security bill last week.
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:05pmThis is another govt run psy-op, this is such bull..s h i t. One report has witness that saw 4 shooters dressed in black..the dead guy is a patsy!
Report Post »427
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:54pmlol there pushing anything and everything they can to try to outlaw guns. Make the American citizen passive and compliant. Yes everyone that allows a pat down in the airports and wonders why they need to do it to kids. It’s called training the masses not unlike going to prison and have power imposed over another.
Report Post »Now when the great fiat ponzi scam crashes down they want use to be passive and unarmed
Secret Squirrel
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:54pm.
Report Post »News speak:
“Domestic terrorism” = the shooter wasn’t a muslim.
“Work place violence” = the shooter WAS a muslim.
“An immigrant who’s name is being withheld” = the shooter was an illegal alien.
427
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:00pmSomething is vary fishy about this. They know the gun mans name,address, and allegedly a terrorist. Over 8 hours they have not released his name, what are they trying to put there story together. There false flag
Report Post »wolfveryne
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:21pmThe Police State ,, first We got the TSA ,, second , Now What?
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:45pmWait and see. Could have been a hate crime. Could have been radical Islam as they hate the Sikh just as much as they hate the Jews and Christians. Most likely, the reason will be far more stupid. Sometimes morons just are morons, and they kill for no reason.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:13pm@JOHN1776- ALL moo-slum crime against whites and Jews is a Hate Crime. The only Hate Crimes the Government recognizes is white against anyone else.
That’s why I would NEVER convict on a so-called “hate crime”. Who decides who hates who? The Govrnment?
Report Post »trinklefinder
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:19pmWas he going for Muslims, because he failed.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:27pmThe police are now looking into a nearby house. Perhaps the shooter was the homeowner and had some grudge against his Sikh neighbors, or perhaps he feared his home’s value was declining because of them.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:17pmThe msm will make a connection to the TEA party one way or another.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:34pmand if they do….. will Romney say “no comment” like he did with Bachmann’s Muslim Brotherhood comments and Chick-fil-A?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:10pmBOMB, Where was your head when Romney made his comments yesterday?
Report Post »raybojabo
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:14pmWitness reports that there were “4” shooters dressed in black. FBI moves in to cover for false flag and claim domestic terrorism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRBuhXeXels
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:34pmthat isn‘t enough to confirm a false flag but i wouldn’t be surprised if it was. could have been federal agents especially if they have shaved heads.
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:08pmagreed RAYBOJ, FBI covering their tracks
Report Post »Totally Domestic
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:02pmThe lady who gives an account fm. her relative said:
“That, some people went, I don’t know how many,
Some people went inside, unidentified people, went into the church,
and they did bunch of shooting and we were having a holy ceremony…..”.
Ok, that is 3 witnesses on video that said that there were multiple shooters.
Report Post »One saying they were white males, in all black clothing. Sure does sound familiar.
Totally Domestic
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:53pmColorado and Wisconsin are battleground states in the upcoming election
Report Post »go2gym
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:14pm“…the case is being treated as a domestic terrorism case and the FBI is better equipped to handle that….”
And the Fort Hood shooting by a Muslim extremist was just “workplace violence.” I see how it is. Many of us see how it is.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:28pmMy thought exactly, I’m so sick of the double standard and come the next Muslim shooting bombing or whatever they’d better get it right across the board.
Report Post »wolfinshdo
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:31pmI was wondering the same thing.
Report Post »Ritter
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:47pmI’m glad you pointed it out. When I read the story I almost blew a blood vessel in my eye. I’m so sick of the double standard, like many real Americans.
Report Post »Onbendedknee
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:28pmAmen!
Report Post »Kilmerfan
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:57pmDrudge keeps saying the shooter is a white male in his 30′s but on the link Drudge provides it posts nothing of the kind. What gives?
This sounds like it is going to be like when Drudge posted the Santa shooter story around Christmas then took it off his site when he found he could not Christian bash with it.
Drudge is a fake.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:19pmDRUDGE IS NOT a flake, my dear.
If it was a white male shooter, I do ask that each and every one remember that the noman and the men who own and control him are perfectly capable of buying someone “out on the edge” to do their dirty work. Remember Oswald? Jack Ruby? Not accidents, y’all, by any means. Planned, plotted, executed.
This is exactly what the noman needs to cause alarm and panic thereby calling for a “national emergency” and he will choose to shut down the elections. DO NOT LET him or his evil companions do this to us.
PRAY ON, AMERICA.
Report Post »PRAY NOW AND ALWAYS IN JESUS’ SWEET, HOLY AND MIGHTY NAME, AMEN.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:35pmKicka: I am curious. Who are these people who “own and control” Obama? Are they, as well as their white hirelings, mostly “white males?” If so, who are they? (I’m asking in general terms, not asking you to name names.) If not, then what?
As to the expendable hit men, would James Earl Ray be considered one of them, even though he assassinated a black radical? What about Sirhan Sirhan? Was he part of this tangled web? Again, just curious.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:37pm@Kilmerfan–Try to keep up. The articles you refer to has quotation marks on it. If you have ANY knowledge it refers to the exact writers statement.It was from Fox news any problems will be Fox’s not Drudge (but thanks for trying)
Report Post »Kilmerfan
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:47pmI said fake not flake, breakfast has nothing to do with this.
Report Post »XScramblerX
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:42pmLloyd Drako
Report Post »They would be the global elites. You know the people that spew catch lines like….“we need global governance”… “ a new world order is emerging”….“global warming is imminent”or the UN that is asking for global gun control. etc. Just follow the $ and the control.
Has your father never taught you about people that are crooks and want to take what’s yours? That’s who they are! And they’re looking for useful sheep to further their agenda until they are no longer useful. You know the people that think these massacres will stop when LAW ABIDING citizens are denied their 2nd amendment. You know, the not too intelligent type.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:33amAh yes, the global elites. How stupid of me not to have realized that these masterminds who lurk in the shadows can find no better way to deprive us of our liberties than to incite disturbed loners to perpetrate mass shootings. How did you discover this? Through the device they implanted in your dental fillings?
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:53pmBrace yourselves everyone
New Gun Control Legislation is comming……….
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:19pmanother flip for weapon investments, due to response of peoples fear of gun control.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:31pmINDI
I don’t fear gun control, I’ve been shooting for years it’s become second nature.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:42pmDon’t you find it curious that in the aftermath of Aurora, and at least in the immediate aftermath of the Sikh temple shootings, no one–no political figure, no major media opinionator, no prominent clergyperson–has put forward any specific gun control proposals? Oh, there’s been talk about regulating magazine capacities and extending background checks, but surprisingly little.
So much more rewarding to use these atrocities irritate certain exposed nerves, to stir up the faithful over the issue of “gun control” without being at all specific. “OMG, doesn’t this prove we need to do something about guns? And about the crazy people who own them?“ ”OMG, watch out now! They’ll be coming after our guns, so we’d better buy more.”
There will be no serious gun control at the Federal level. There will be more mass shootings. Bet on it.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:10pmnew gun control is coming…..And we have two presidential candidates who are anti-gun
Report Post »Endyr
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:43pmI fear far far worse. EO from POTUS.
Report Post »XScramblerX
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:55pmThat’s an easy one! I WILL NOT COMPLY! or maybe this old dusty one…..OUTTA MY COLD DEAD HANDS. See it’s not so hard! Here’s another old one…YOU GOTTA STAND FOR SOMETHING, OR YOU’LL FALL FOR ANYTHING!. C’mon patriots! Go on out and buy yourself some protection! It sure would have been good to see some one in these last few shootings do what old Mr. Williams did at the internet cafe!
Report Post »DesdemonasCrew
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:27pmCalifornia is already pushing a bill to ban “bullet button”. This means that guns that require a tool to remove the magazine will be banned, and you will only be able to have a fixed magazine.
Report Post »Yes, the gun control laws are coming.
ViewPointtt
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:35amWatch What Happens When Guns Are Banned In Australia!
Report Post »http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/08/watch-what-happens-when-guns-are-banned-in-australia-2447882.html
marybethelizabeth
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:52pmThis is a case where a Republican governor is too cheap to pay for the investigation.
Republicans never accept responsibility if it’s going to cost them money.
Soon you will here him complain about wasteful federal government spending, probably as the fed are still cleaning up his mess.
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:03pmYup that’s exactly how it works. The governor calls up the FBI and says “take this please”? Like the federal government needs to be told when to take something! LOL thanks for the laugh.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:06pmMary : That is a lie. The governor does’t get to “ chose” this action. Nobama 2012 No Democrats 2012
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:12pmROTFL… what you are really saying is that REPUBLICANS ARE MORE CAREFUL WITH TAXPAYER MONEY THAN DEMOCRATS… DUH!!!
Obama debt – $5.4 TRILLION AND COUNTING… ($17,000+ per citizen…). More than the first 41 Presidents combined. More that Bush’s 8 years in office, including 2 wars…
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:16pmYou are slipping Mary or Elizabeth or whoever you are. You made a straight forward but still illogical liberal argument. Are you on your meds today?
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:23pmOh, LORD, child, grow up, unstop your ears, shake the cobwebs from your brain and get with it. Time is too short to be stupid.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:50pmThe Feds decide it might fall under the rubric of “domestic terrorism,” because if they don’t, and if it is, there will be hell to pay. The state of Wisconsin is off the hook and saves money.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:19pm@MARYBETHELIZABETH
Report Post »Such hateful stupidity. My guess is momma was too busy doing drugs to drop you on your head. You dropped yourself.
marybethelizabeth
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:46pmOpen your ears guys. The governor said he called the FBI in his statement.
Report Post »dugbru
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:17amwhy did the registered Democrat shoot those people??? 1st in Colorado, now this.. Why are Democrats doing this ????
Report Post »godhatesacoward
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:51pmWisconsin shooting = domestic terrorism. Colorado shooting = domestic terrorism. Arizona shooting = domestic terrorism. Fort Hood shooting = domestic terrorism. The hundreds of armed robberies and murders last week = domestic terrorism and so on. It‘s hard to believe POS holder can have his head so far up obarfo’s ass that he can still manage getting it up his own! Well, I guess if you‘re a real POS that’s where you belong until you’re flushed down the terlit!
Report Post »pissantno.10
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:11pmfort hood was a job related not terroism
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:55pmAny time a religious community is targeted, “domestic terrorism” is a reasonable assumption. There would be little doubt of this if someone had opened fire in a synagogue–or a mosque. Of course, it could still turn out to be a personal grudge, or a marital problem, or even something job-related.
Report Post »kalli
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:51pmThe WH will make this shooting out to be anything they want it to be even though they “say” they are not pushing any of their b.s. until after Nov. 6…you know, when he’ll have time to take care of business and not have to worry about his re-election. But, mark my word, if this country does not remove this evil man, his acts to come will be so atrocious, they will make the antichrist a little jealous.
Report Post »oceandove
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:48pmDomestic terrorism? Does anyone know if the shooter is white?
Report Post »AzThunder
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:47pmOur “Terrorism – in – Chief” sure was quick to comment on this
Report Post »GoldenSage
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:46pmThe sad part of all this, no one seems to be caring and talking about the people that were killed. We are more concern about the shooter first. Some will probably start, and have started, comparing this to other recent shootings. There are differences. In the last mass shooting, the victims were highlighted greatly. But, in this one, it will be more the shooter and the FBI. Why? The place, and most likely, the people who were killed and wounded. Their ethnic and cultural standing. As some have pointed out, this will be used as a political weapon to make Obama look good. The ethnic and cultural warfare continues. And the progressives and liberals will eat it up.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:06pmYes, within hours of Aurora we were beginning to get the names of the victims, the heroes among them who died saving others, and so on. This has not yet really begun over Oak Creek, but expect it soon. It will be harder for most people to wrap their tongues around strange Sikh names, but not impossible.The media will surely cover a funeral or two
You’re wrong about the likely politics of this. If Obama really wants to make political capital out of this, you will soon find him (or his minions) singling some out some of the victims, telling the story of their undoubtedly “American” dreams and aspirations, wringing a lot of mileage out of their families’ tears, using them to plead for liberal values like toleration and multi-cultural understanding, and so on.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:07pmConcern for the victims is a given.
Report Post »spairhair
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:41pmBoy, it did not take long to call it domestic terrorism. Almost out of the gate. A total shame for the crazy act. Just seems funny“ domestic ” called right away and I agree but dragging your feet when others involved Fort Hood anyone? That was workplace crime.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:56pmNote how the only “big media” shooting involving an active or former member of the military was at Ft. Hood. I’m not saying certain elements of our culture or govt. are hoping for a white bread Army boy to eventually engage in one of these mas shootings, but I‘m sure they won’t be disappointed if that eventually happens.
Report Post »“SEE! SEE! We told you this would happen!!!” So far it’s just nuts who avoided the probable cause process and were minimized by mental health, police and ecucational agents. Ya think progressives and alarmists will settle for a racist, white nutjob w/no meaningful military history?
Walkabout
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:26pmTerrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion. In the international community, however, terrorism has no universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition.[1][2] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians). Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war
-Wiki
How is this horrible act terrorism? The shooter is dead. Therefore he cannot do it again & be “SYSTEMATIC”.
Loughner was a kid who listened to everyone who had a beef or conspiracy theory about the governement, this or that group until he was totally screwed up.
James Holmes was mad at the world because he never fit in. When he didn’t pass a final exam for the year that he could retake, he decided to take it on society.
Who knows with this shooter. I suspect that he hated Muslims but I don’t know. Maybe he hated foreigners. How hard it is to mistake Sikhs for Muslims. There have been so many stories ran on it for the last 17 years I wonder who didn’t get that memo?
But systematic? No there is no system here but a bad economy, tearing down of faith groups (replacing it with ___?) & tearing down patriotism.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:58amWell, let the smug patting on the back begin. DHS finally has its white, veteran shooter for the media to parade about. I suppose the law of probability can never be denied.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:39pm“Domestic terrorism .” An interesting phrase. One that Jesse Jackson used when he spoke in Denver on July, 27: He said “This is not an issue of guns for the house, or keeping guns for hunting but rather, domestic terrorism. None are safe in the rise of domestic terrorism. I am convinced this kind of access to weapons emboldens international terrorists. We have gone from protection from the wild to a state of war.” Anyone else see a pattern here ? Wonder if the Wisconsin case will be treated with the lock down silence of the Colorado case or will be treated as the media circus/ witch hunt in Florida. Wonder which will benefit the Democrats : media circus or judicial lock down.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:32pmWhy was the first comment deleted and my reply along with it?
Thats not cool Blaze.
Fix that please.
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:23pmMaybe they just don’t like you.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:40pmyou said some stuff about Rand Paul the other day…Theblaze filter catches “Paul” and now you are on their watch list.
Next time, try saying “Rand whats-his-face”
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:32pmI think I’d be more comfortable if the local authorities handled the investigation.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:10pmSorry, JUST, “Local Authorities” do not maintain jurisdiction once a case becomes an obvious Federal Crime. Shocking that you are completely ignorant of that fact. NOT!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:22pmSo every time I post a comment, you’re just going to insult me? The reason I’d feel more comfortable with local authorities handling it, is I’m afraid it will politicized at the the Federal Level. I mean we could debate the FBI being a unconstitutional department started in the progressive era and a violation of the 10th ammendment and the view of constitutionalism that was used to justify it, but something tells me no matter what I say, you’re just going to lob your personal attacks. You’re getting to be as creepy as Barber.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:30pmwhy is this an ‘obvious federal crime’?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:55pm@Soy, Check out his last 10 comments. The dude is creepy.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:05pmJUST and SOY need to exchange contact information. I sense the beginnings of a passionate, if brief, relationship.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:09pmI see his last 10 comments include the word “Just” and “Ron Paul” at an unhealthy rate. It also appears he is obsessed with 50 cal guns
Perhaps he is about to commit an obvious federal crime, yes? Or maybe we just send a note to our ‘lefty troll friends’ over at HSA and have him detained indefinately via NDAA
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:42pmAmazing that proven-ignorant Leftists would attempt to personally attack those who have outed them as ignorant. LOL! For anyone paying attention, it’s hysterical!
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:15pmnow the mudslinger is crying about personal attacks
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:43pmIn a very depressing way, this thread reminds me of “arguing” with my nine and eleven year old daughters. The difference is that my daughters are intelligent enough to identify, acknowledge and actually absorb knowledge passed on to them by those more knowledgeable than they.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:19pmIn the wake of the UN small arms treaty, these shootings are becoming a little too convenient. It really is time for us to start clinging to our guns because all it will take is a few more acts of conveniently placed “domestic terrorism” and the globalists will have all the ammo ( pun intented ) that they need to pass a small arms ban.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:39pm……ditto……
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:37pmi said the same thing a couple weeks ago, was called an anti-government ron paul nut….Be careful
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 6:21ameh, i’m a libertarian……i’m used to being called “anti-government”. I wear it like a badge of honor these days.
Report Post »Faith_Grace
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:11pmHow can any of you comment until all the facts are in…LOL…your no better than ABC news…
Report Post »trinklefinder
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:30pmNo, ABC is supposed to report the news. We are just people voicing our opinion or speculating on what happened. It’s grapes and bananas.
Report Post »NO_MORE_OBAMA
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 5:58pmWhat are you thinking? Its only domestic terrorizm if a white man kills a muslim.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:28pmSikhs aren’t Muslims.
Report Post »PeachyinGA
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:37pmMuslims don‘t like Sikh’s either.
Report Post »pissantno.10
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:40pmwhats your point and does it matter a muslem guns down our troops and its job related not terroism
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:52pmThe Sikh religion has elements of both islam and hinduism.it’s a hybrid of both faiths.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 5:57pmTranslation – Holder found out the shooter is neither muslim or a minority so now he will use this to advance the agenda of gun control, make Obama look good, and blame the conservatives and the tea party.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:12pmI just used Google to search Holder and Sikh shooting. I found an Eric Holder, Washington DC. that is connected with crimes against the US Constitution, and is wanted for raping Liberty. I wonder if, even though we don’t know, if this is the same Eric Holder. I haven’t verified this, but I just want to get it out there. Again, I don’t know if this is the Same Eric Holder, but it is one that lives in the DC area, and whose name is connected with the shooting.
I also found a Joe Smith that is part of the Tea Party, Orlando Florida, he became a member last year, even though we don’t know at this time, there is a Joe Smith of the Tea Party, Orlando Florida.
Hey wait, I found a lot of hits on a Scott Walker, Madison Wisconsin, I don’t know at this time, but he has been in the news a lot this year. Again, a Scott Walker, Madison WI, may be connected, we just aren’t sure at this time.
Hey ABC, how am I doing, can I be one of your reporters, I can use google.
Report Post »ViewPointtt
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 5:02amIt is more likely that Holder and his cohorts orchestrated this from the start… the start being long before the shooting occurred. Holder would never have planted, designated a Muslim to be the shooter. In order to maximize the gun-control potential, it is crucial to their stratagem that it be a single, unstable, gun-happy, outsider/loner, domestic, white male.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 5:56pmI thought no one was “permitted” to use the word “terrorism” anymore? I guess when it is considered “domestic terrorism” it’s different. >:-( And why it is so quickly assumed as such by law enforcement? They seem to list everything else as “alleged” even when it’s plain as day what happened (and plenty of witnesses!). Why can‘t they assume that it’s just some crazy nutcase as easily as they assume “domestic terrorism” which implies there’s some thicker plot? Just wondering aloud here. . .
Report Post »Delta D-5-3
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:01pmI guess if this nut job yelled “ALLAH AKBAR” he would have been considered a madman, NOT a domestic terrorist. He would be in the clear, just like the Foot Hood Muslim extremist.
Report Post »revel222
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:03pmI completely agree with you and why is this not a STATE issue? Why does the government keep overstepping its boundaries? This is rhetorical of course…we know the answer.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:27pm@Delta D-5-3 I was thinking the same thing.
Well hopefully justice will be served in this case. Obama’s FBI would not be happy if they found that this white man was white Muslim.
Ether way the man is a terrorist and should be charged as such.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:29pm@JustPeachy – Obama and the admin use the term ‘terrorism” only when it is to their political gain.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 5:52pmSO what was FORT HOOD?
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:05pmI agree. This was a act of terrorism and so was fort hood.
It seems like they are comfortable to label and call proclaim this a act of terrorism because the suspect is not known to be Muslim and is a white male.
We will see.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:10pm@Delta D-5-3
I haven’t heard anything about what color this madman was. Do you have some info on this? TIA
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:10pmCome on, Fort Hood was just a Muslim trying to protect himself from hundreds of intolerant infidels. He was simply exercising his freedom of religion and killed because Mohammad told him to. Therefore, it wasn’t terror or work place violence, it was self defense. Sorry, I was just channeling Eric Holder.
Ft Hood was Domestic terrorism, but won‘t be deemed such because he didn’t single out one specific type of people, he just randomly shot, just like the Aurora shooter. There lies the definition.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:14pmWhat was Fort Hood? It’s obvious that it was a combination of religious fanaticism, job stress and mental disorder–plus of course ready access to weapons. As a military man, Hasan is subject to military justice and seems likely to be executed. Why does it matter so much to you whether you call it “domestic” or “international” terrorism, or terrorism of any kind?
Report Post »kcinco
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 7:12amMy question too. The difference is the obvious bias of the obama regime. This stinks to high heaven of manipulation. If you read the definitions of hate crime vs. domestic terrorism, any fifth grader could tell you this act fits under hate crime (well, maybe not because they don’t teach the truth in our schools). But as he has done all along, obama and his regime change the meaning of our laws just to fit their agenda.
Report Post »PurrrpleMtnMajesty
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:59amOne of you asked:
Why does it matter so much to you whether you call it “domestic” or “international” terrorism, or terrorism of any kind?
Because Ft. Hood being labeled as “workplace violence” despite all the evidence saying the shooter was in jihad with the infidel and even yelled “Allah Ahkbar” upon killing- clearly an act of terrorism.
Report Post »Yet this gov’t chooses to pretend otherwise. As a result of the incorrect labeling, many wounded & families of fallen soldiers are not eligible for various benefits/programs/help that would otherwise be available. SERIOUS difference. Of course what do you expect from a party who wishes to suppress the very vote the military risks their lives to protect?
Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:25pmThe Fort Hood victims are not eligible for Purple Hearts because they did not die in combat outside the US. Legislation has been introduced that would remedy that. Otherwise, the labelling of Hasan’s atrocity seems to make no difference except to those who would use it as a stick to beat Obama with.
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