Crime

Police Violently Beat ‘Gentle’ Homeless and Mentally-Ill Man…to Death (Warning: Graphic Image)

Homeless Man Kelly Thomas Died After Violent Police BeatingThe local community in Fullerton, California, has been shaken by the violent death of Kelly Thomas, a homeless man who suffered from schizophrenia. On July 5, a local student caught some raw footage of police officers utilizing a Taser to subdue Thomas after he purportedly resisted arrest. According to sources, the man was beaten so profusely that he was placed on life support and then died several days later.

Thomas caught the attention of police offers after someone reported that a burglar was breaking into cars that were parked at the local bus station. When cops then approached Thomas and attempted to arrest him, he resisted. This is where the story takes a bizarre turn and the facts get murky. According to Gawker, Mark Turgeon, a witness to the police beating, claims that Thomas wasn’t at all resisting arrest:

“They kept beating him and Tasering him. I could hear zapping, and he wasn’t even moving. He had one arm in front of him like this, he wasn’t resisting. And they kept telling him, ‘He’s resisting, quit resisting,‘ and he wasn’t resisting.”

While the following video does not show the actual beating, Thomas’ screams can be heard as the beating unfolds. Pay particular attention to witness commentary, as it does seem to corroborate Turgeon’s statements:

Homeless Man Kelly Thomas Died After Violent Police BeatingThen, there is this image (see left) that shows just how battered and beaten Thomas was left after the incident. It should be noted that, while some are claiming that he was not resisting arrest, two police officers did, indeed, have broken bones. This seems to indicate that there was a violent struggle of some sort.

Since the incident, Thomas‘ family has held protests outside of the police department’s headquarters, but has yet to receive any substantial answers. His father, a former sheriff’s deputy, is distraught and has even stated that he is ashamed for every having ever been a law enforcement officer. The family, in their grief, claim that the man, though mentally ill, was not violent; others corroborate the notion that Thomas was “gentle.” Below, find some reaction from his family members (from to KABC):

“It was gang-involved, the way I see it, a gang of rogue officers who brutally beat my son to death.” – Ron Thomas (father)

“Very loving, very kind. He cared about family. I mean, his sister and brother in Nevada state, he would ask me constantly how they were…Can’t even begin to explain the loss of a son. I just want to see him again. I want to hold him. It’s just not fair.” - Cathy Thomas (mother)

“I can’t fathom that this happened. It’s terrible. It makes me sick to my stomach, and I can‘t believe that they’re not saying what happened.” – Dana Pape (stepmother)

Below, watch video from KABC-TV that shows the family protesting last week outside of police headquarters:

And, here is an interview with Thomas’ father, Ron:

The six Fullerton police officers involved in the incident have remained silent, but they welcome an investigation by the local district attorney. Others, though, are weighing in. On July 17, Fullerton City council member Bruce Whitaker issued an open letter to local residents. In it, Whitaker pushed for “a clear, factual and complete explanation of events.” Below, you can read the letter for yourself:

Homeless Man Kelly Thomas Died After Violent Police Beating

The police department will likely need to release details at some juncture in the near future. Considering the video and the graphic image that have already leaked to the public, this scenario is not likely to disappear. Hopefully, the public — and Thomas’ family — will be given adequate information to make a final determination about the merits of the officers’ actions that evening.

Update: Mail Online is reporting that the police department has retracted its statement that two officers suffered broken bones. Now, they are calling the injuries “soft tissue damage.”

(h/t Gawker)

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:57pm

    All I can do is pray for justice.

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    • BIGJAYINPA
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:21pm

      Normaly I am a 100% supporter of the police. However after the questions raised here and the video of the toad in Ohio berating the CCW citizen I am starting to question what the heck is happening to our thin blue line. I want any police officer that I have to deal with to show me his membership in Oathkeepers. It is a shame when a few rogues can make us fear all our uniformed officers….Just sayin’

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    • olddog
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:27pm

      The police spell that a little differently, they spell it just us….wise up

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:35pm

      Just testing…

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:41pm

      Actually, I’m praying that the truth will come out and that everyone will recognize it as such. Police officers bones don’t break on a whim. And usually the people who are Tasered are immobilized by the electrical shock. I realize that the video shows something, but there have been times when video was creatively edited, also. There is more to this story than meets the eye. Also, I want to be careful of getting herded by the media into making a judgment like many did with Casey Anthony.

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    • Kitsune
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:49pm

      @ BigjayinPA : Can you say, Agents of Van Jones?

      I knew you could.

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    • mils
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:02pm

      IT DOESN’T MATTER….the police will get off. a human suffered at their hands, yet they will get off. One man against all the officers…a little slightly built man…no weapons..

      Such a shame. i hope his family sues the hell out of the police…where are jesse and al when they could be used

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    • WeDontNeedNoStinkingBadges
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:10pm

      America’s Founders WARNED us about a standing army being a threat to our Liberty. THAT STANDING ARMY is “The Police”.

      What we are seeing here is “hired thugs” who are “above the Law”. WHAT CRIME was committed here? “Resisting arrest”? THAT’s the crime for which a GANG OF THUGS beat a man to death?
      Wake up, people.

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    • WeDontNeedNoStinkingBadges
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:13pm

      Oh, did I forget to mention … “YOU WORK FOR US!”?

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    • 1proudAmerican
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:23pm

      Cops no longer support the people, they work against the people.

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    • duckman1911
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:37pm

      All the video shows is a dark street with lights flashing. You cant REALLY hear what is going on so you have to read subtitles which were added by people that put what they want when no one else can understand it. This video isnt clear evidence of anything. Yes the family is upset but arent they all when a family member gets killed? A person could ge shot while holding hostages in a store and the family will still question it. For all of those that hate the cops. Dont call 911 anymore. You want them at your beckon call when its helpful for you but if its not you hate them. Im a volunteer fireman and I have a full time job apart from that but I still get out of bed at 2am in the work week to come pull your sorry drunk or stoned ass out of your mangled car wreck in a ditch… Maybe since the people that save your ass arent appreciated we should just let you solve your own problems?

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    • G3L
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:39pm

      Several thing that struck me was first this guy was a homeless man with schizophrenia. His friends and family are now pissed. Where were they when he needed help. So, don’t be so fast to point fingers at the police, you were not there nor was I. However, the police officers also have broken bones so this was not a gentle man. The only thing that stands between you and the bad guys are the police so shut-up until you know all the facts. And a witness never can tell you the whole story, check him out also. So, until you walk in a police officers shoes and understand what they went though keep your comments to yourself until all the facts are out.

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    • obamanation
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:46pm

      This is where I live. This happened in front of a bar I come to sometimes. I have dealt with these very cops and seen what they have done to others… They are brutal.

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    • Jess415
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:47pm

      This is horrible. I too was very pro police, etc. Then they sent me to jail for something I didn’t do and while in that “justice” system I spent 44 days in jail for a crime I did not commit. Why? Because others had been in there for several months fighting their cases and I just wanted to go home to my child. I am not a criminal but they sure treated me like one. I have no trust for them anymore.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:50pm

      tHIS IS THE REASON THEY HAVE TASZERS-TO STUN -HANDCUFF ! -restrain
      pUNK COPS GOT MADE FOR GETTING HIT BY A sCHIZOPHRENIAK , that could of been having a seazure ! PUT THEIR A$$E$ IN JAIL DAMN IT !
      And bring home the troops ! ! ! ! Now………………………………………..
      STOP THE SPREAD OF THE POLICE STATE! NEW WORLD ORDER !
      there mace that ones for you ! KELLY THOMAS….r.i.p…………..

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    • darkknight91
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 12:00am

      Nothing surprising here. This is what you get when you have ex-military has beens on ego trips and anger issues with their shaved heads and gloves and roid rage “protecting” our cities. With this blind hero worship of anyone in uniform since 9/11 more and more of this stuff is happening. It just amazes me, these guys are supposed to be so tough and bad, they can’t even contain a skinny homeless guy with 6 of their sorry a$$es on top of him without beating and tasing him to death. This country is rapidly transforming into 1930′s Germany with the thug tactics in Washington and on the streets. You better pray the day doesn‘t come when they’ve disarmed everyone. And don‘t tell me it won’t happen. They’ve got so much stuff in motion to that very thing and people are just sitting around taking it in the pooper.

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    • Restored One
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 12:08am

      I agree with many of the posters here. There seems to be a lot of suspected, video taped Police Brutality lately. I support and know many Blues. Are they being indocrintated for the Marshall Law tactics. I will start asking.

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    • darkknight91
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 12:18am

      Duckman, save the self-worship. Nobody’s impressed. I don’t call 911 for help. I don’t get drunk or stoned. That’s the world you live in. Not mine. I see more and more firemen and cops on ego trips nowadays than ever. Using 9/11 as booster to that status when in reality, the only heroes from that day were the ones that actually helped and the ones who died. I don’t give blanket praise to everyone in uniform because of what a few did. Get over yourself.

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 12:23am

      Broken bones? What their pinky? Cops looking for their daily power rush yet again. Asses

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    • obamanation
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 12:24am

      Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward… Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both.

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 12:24am

      Taquoshi: Creative editing from a phone camera in one shot from one angle… no breaks or stops—all one straight shot? Come on dude. They didnt photoshop the action.

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 12:30am

      Bottom line: when there are several cops and 1 perp (whatever he did) there doesnt need to be a mass beating. They could have and should have handled the situation differently. Tasers are meant to help subdue a perp so a cop doesn’t have the kick the crap out of someone. And when there are several cops involved they sould have been able to detain him. I can’t believe BEATING A MAN TO HIS DEATH was necessary. This is what the outcry is. This is what people need to be watching because it’s happening more and more frequent where the police is acting with excessive force.
      I don’t care what the facts are, 1 man against a half dozen armed cops— the man should still be alive.

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    • anOpinion
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 1:06am

      Just like in Vancouver airport a few years ago, nothing will happen to these cops and they will get away with murder.

      The problem is that when someone is being held down with the weight of someone on their back, and they get continually tased, it can be like a drowning man trying to get a breath. He isn’t resisting arrest, his primal instinct is taking over and he’s doing anything he can to get a breath and recover.

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    • Huguenot Descendant
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 3:59am

      From that former Marine who’s house was broken into and was killed by the police, to that resident who owned a permit to carry concealed weapons and had his life threatened, and now this? What is happening with the police departments? Is this some sort of new code that they can get away with murder now? Things are looking more and more scary in the United States everyday.

      As a fore mention I would like to point out I am not anti police or anything of the such. In fact I have been working to obtain a degree in criminal justice so I can become a police officer as a career choice. But I would not want to be viewed or have anything to do with the actions of police officers like this.

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    • Dont-hate-on-me-2
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 4:11am

      how many times in the month have the police gone complete nuts or out of control and you all still think its just a few bad apples, you need to open your eyes, they will beat you for not following a command or worse yet shot you dead. their is no excuse for this we have lost control, this is a matter of the people dont stand togther on the issue of police brutailty, we cant have short memorys here, nobody deserves that kind of death, have no facts im the first to say on this case but all cases are the same latly (last 5 years)

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    • Pucci
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 4:31am

      DO not blindly support the police or the military. They both become tools of the state as our freedoms errode.

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    • Sheepdog911
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 6:14am

      OK, so he has one arm under his chest that the police want behind his back and he won’t allow them to have that arm. I’d call that resisting. Cops with broken bones? Sounds like the police resisted eachother while trying to kill this guy. Naw, I don’t think so. Mr Gentle schziso… went off. The biggest problem with any photos of this is the head trauma. The police need to address why his head and face are beaten to a pulp if it was his arm they were trying to get control of. Blows to the head with batons are usually considered an application of “deadly force”.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 6:35am

      You can‘t get justice when it’s the police killing your citizens. They are a publicly paid random hit squad.

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    • Bluefish49
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 7:36am

      Everyone must remember that when the day the you know what hits the fan. The police will be part of the “Union” civilian army. They will not protect you…..rather they will attack you.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 7:38am

      If it took six officers to beat one man to death, they probably received broken bones from each other in the melee. The pain of having a child with mental illness must have been horrible, and then to lose him to law enforcement’s brutality, unthinkable.

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    • danyelle55
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 9:16am

      Ok, I have no clue what went on…but did you say that the homeless schizophrenic had a MOTHER FATHER SISTER and BROTHER!!!! Why was this dude homeless again?! Shame on them!!! They should be taking care of this ill man!! Ridiculous!!!

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    • Baron_Doom
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 9:17am

      What’s wrong with the police in California? Didn’t they just kill an unarmed boy in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago?

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    • richard the lion-hearted
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 10:31am

      @duckman1911 – You are the perfect example of why the police have become what they are now. Your ‘blanket’ statement of the “honor” of police and firemen that should be applied to all without question shows your laziness or inability to access a situation or treat each person as an individual. Just like your hateful, “…but I still get out of bed at 2am in the work week to come pull your sorry drunk or stoned ass out of your mangled car wreck in a ditch…”. That statement reveals who you truly are (I would venture to say that no one wants someone who thinks like you to even be in such a position helping them in any way), someone who thinks that a job of sacrifice that YOU volunteered for, no one forced you to join, that somehow you’re due some higher standard of treatment for it. Real heroes never expect anything for what they do, they know that they are doing the right thing and that God will reward them in heaven and that is enough for them. To in any way stand by police who BRUTALLY beat anyone is just plain WRONG. Police are trained to subdue and arrest and for anyone to be beaten like that shows that they were far from that scenario happening. “To Serve and Protect” was the phrase that used to be on our police cars here, they have since removed those emblems years ago. Teach your children to respect law, just not blindly follow like so many others do ignorantly, because the ‘police state’ that we are finding ourselves in by and by is the result of such narr

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    • richard the lion-hearted
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 10:36am

      …That would be “narrow thinking”, don’t know why it cut my comment short.

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    • FuturePresident
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 11:12am

      No, how about we get millions of people to write letters and call that police department until they can’t do their jobs because they are so overwhelmed with calls and letters. The police responsible for this should have their badges and guns taken away (oh yeah tazers too). The cops lied about getting broken bones too? Bench all these cops without pay. I respect real police officers not dirt bags in uniforms.

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    • ME
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 12:33pm

      All you pro police people are a joke, my father was a cop years ago the only new thing is that now everyone has a video camera on there phone. There has always been an element of the Police that is rouge now they hide better in SWAT and other paramilitary groups within the departments. If full military outfitted cops are a good idea to you, you will love where we are going:) enjoy the thin blue line will be an iron chain sooner then latter.

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    • ME
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 1:42pm

      How right you are Bluefish, I have a theory you threaten what put food on a mans table and 90% of them will toss anything they believe in to keep that food on the table. Not a mark against police but all mankind.

      Bluefish49
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 7:36am

      Everyone must remember that when the day the you know what hits the fan. The police will be part of the “Union” civilian army. They will not protect you…..rather they will attack you.

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    • conservativeagent
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 1:48pm

      G3- with the beating the man got, maybe while in the middle of beat the man, the police inadvertantly struck each other, thus the broken bones. Who knows!

      The Shadow knows!

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    • April1775
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 3:24pm

      @duckman1911 — that is PERCISELY the kind of “argument” we get from Obama — believe what I believe or you are the most vile creature on the planet. Very juvenile.

      One can be a supporter of law and order and still question a brutal beating in which the victim died. Sorry, but just because they were wearing blue does not give them immunity — if it was a shooting, that kind of action can be defended as a mistake or a flaw in judgement brought about under duress. But a vicious, relentless beatdown by at least five officers on a man, screaming for his Father, well that is a different kettle of fish.

      So, spare us the juvenile argument that just becase we don’t fall blindly in line with the police state, that we shouldn’t ever be allowed to call for assistance. If the police are not to be at the “beck-and-call” of the public, what is their function? I suspect that someone like you thinks it is to control that Public. Although, like many on this board, I am perpared to defend myself against criminals if necessary because, as we all know, the police are not obligated to help in an emergency situation and often arrive after it is over. So again, spare us the theatrics of a straw man argument.

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    • sablegsd
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 3:24pm

      Amen.

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    • 408 CheyTac
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:35am

      US (the general public) vs. THEM (the police jackboots)

      Someday this nation of sheelpe might actually figure that out.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:52am

      Here’s my ? Where were all of his “oh so concerned” family when he was getting wasted on the streets and ruining his life? For years he had apparently been abusing drugs and making awful life decisions and no one in his family had the love in their heart to show him an ounce of discipline and tough love in order to reverse his path and bring him back to sanity.

      Men like this are a dime a dozen in Ca. I drove the PCH about two years ago from Oceanside to Monterey and had to slam on my brakes for a man who had apparently fried his brain. He appeared to be playing hopscotch in the middle of the road. Just as he cleared my path, he took 3 hops back into the middle of the street again and it took every ounce of my patience to not put him out of his misery then and there. It is a shame and a disgrace that an American family would let one of their own fall so low.

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    • leahasevedo
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:32am

      the real sad part is no one said anything. i know it may be scary to question police who are so unlawful in their actions, but we as citizens need to grow a pair and start speaking up. if that same guy with the camera would have walked up with his camera on and maybe with a few more brave citizens and said hey come on just put some cuffs on him and end this then maybe a life would have been saved. we all need to start being better more involved citizens.

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    • mycomet123
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 4:25pm

      I prayer for this poor man’s family. Just looking at the picture of this guys face it’s pretty clear the amount of force used can NEVER be justified!!. Then you add in the fact that they also used taser guns?–how the hell do the police get away with this!!!!.

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 4:52pm

      I’m with bigjay-I normally support the police, but something is terribly wrong here. He was un-armed, six of them could have put him down safely. His face tells the story of sacred, angry police, and I do not like this story at all. Condolences to his family, may God grant him, and his family peace and justice if possible. One of the saddest day’s in this country is when they forced mentally ill people out of the hospitals in the name of giving them their rights-not to take their meds and be watched over. Families try, but they can’t make them take their meds or stay home either because of the law. Families suffer for their inability to legally help their sick loved ones, and then get judged for it. Be carefull what you say, the aclu is who screwed them and their families.

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:57pm

    Jail the killers and throw away the d–m key. When police officers do this the we really have no hope! My God help us!

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:31pm

      @Abbygirl,remember it happened in Ca..they release hard core criminals early,way early, the officers might get their hands spanked,but i doubt they will get any serious time

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    • TunaBlue
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:31pm

      Can we have an investigation before we convict anyone.

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    • Love glenn protect glenn
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:47pm

      Was it not the Liberals who closed down the mental hospitals and made sure the release of mentally ill patients ?? Now, many of them are either on the streets or in jail.

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    • Fuul Aluuf
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:02pm

      Before throwing them in jail and throwing away the key, I want to know how each of the cops got their broken bones. Some bad cops have been known to fake an assault to justify their actions, but I’ve never heard of a cop desperate enough to break their own bones in the process. Something tells me the guy may not have been so lovey and cuddley…

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    • aguynameddave
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:34pm

      @Fuul Aluuf

      when night sticks (or fists) are swinging, it is possible that the “wrong person” may get hit.

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    • Jim in NJ
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:36pm

      @ FUUL:
      I think the broken bones may have come in the melee, from their buddies swinging their batons. There has been an epidemic of cops acting like this all over the country. The police have become their own military branch, with their own entry teams, air support, and in some cases armor. And the increase in their power has directly related to their disrespect of average people. They have become a protected class where there lives are now more important than the regular joe.

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    • Samantha3
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:45pm

      To love glenn … Actually, I think it was under Ronald Reagan that budgets for the mentally ill were severely cut and they ended up on the street or in jails. The thinking was that charitable or other private organizations would pick up the slack…didn’t happen.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 1:43am

      There is always two sides to a story. Let us wait for the details before we judge the matter.
      - Proverbs 18:13

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    • Shiroi Raion
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 2:05am

      I‘m wondering why he didn’t live with his parents. A schizophrenic would find it virtually impossible to find work, especially with 18% underemployment/unemployment.
      Even if the 140 pound malnourished man was somehow able to break the bones of 2 cops. That doesn’t justify torture. I‘m guessing he probably wasn’t burglarizing the cars and the cops ended out murdering an innocent man.
      There are good cops. I’ve met some. I’ve met terrible cops too. I’ve met 2 that admitted they took pot from kids and smoked it themselves. Also, it seems some cops just assume everyone is guilty. I’ve actually heard a cop say that no one was innocent. Scary. People like that shouldn’t be cops.
      The personality test that they use to see if someone should be a cop, it doesn’t work.

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    • Katydidnt
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 6:26am

      To Love Glenn and Samantha3, you are both right. Ronald Reagan did shut down the Psych hospitals, but the liberals made it very difficult to get anyone committed to a mental hospital without their consent.

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    • Bluefish49
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 7:49am

      @tunabue……really…an investigation? six armed police officers against one vagrant….what is your basic malfunction?

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 8:22am

      I see two parts to this story. The first part is the Rogue cops beating a mentally ill homeless man to death and the second part is our broken healthcare system, that uses the streets and jails as the only option for the mentally ill. Welcome to the greatest healthcare system on earth.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:56pm

    Charge them with murder — and that indeed is what it apperars to be. They will walk though, as most rouge officers do, unlike the Border Patrol agents who are condemned as murderers in jail just for the action of defending themselves when shot at.

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:10pm

      Not just murder (more like manslaughter), torture as well.

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:34pm

      Wait ’til Obama’s “Brown Shirts” are fully funded.

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    • Delta D-5-3
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:36pm

      Posted by: duckman1911
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:37pm
      All the video shows is a dark street with lights flashing. You cant REALLY hear what is going on so you have to read subtitles which were added by people that put what they want when no one else can understand it. This video isnt clear evidence of anything. Yes the family is upset but arent they all when a family member gets killed? A person could ge shot while holding hostages in a store and the family will still question it. For all of those that hate the cops. Dont call 911 anymore. You want them at your beckon call when its helpful for you but if its not you hate them. Im a volunteer fireman and I have a full time job apart from that but I still get out of bed at 2am in the work week to come pull your sorry drunk or stoned ass out of your mangled car wreck in a ditch… Maybe since the people that save your ass arent appreciated we should just let you solve your own problems?

      Hey Duck, it’s people LIKE YOU who support domestic terror when you support Police who do this to law abiding citizens. ONE man, tasered by how many police officers?? And then BEATIN to death?? How many friends of your are Police officers??……..Thought so.

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  • Seneca264
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:56pm

    These cops committed murder, plain and simple. I was only in law enforcement for 7 years but during that time I had to take down many people and get them into restraints. Many times by myself. We did not patrol in pairs. I might believe that this could happen if only one officer was involved, but not six. I am not even going to believe the story that this man was “gentle” and that he was not resisting arrest. That being said, the worse case scenario based upon my training and experience, these cops committed murder. As far as two of the cops suffering from broken bones, I can also add the following. You can easily break the bones in your hand when striking an individual with your fists. If you don’t believe me, go ask an ER doctor or nurse. I guess if you are beating a mans face into hamburger, you could expect a few broken bones. Just my opinion.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:14pm

      Apparently 7 years in law enforcement wasn’t in the best interest of the public. The article stated that an investigation was being conducted. I’d hate to have you respond to a crime. You would have made a final judgement just from the fact that you set the parking brake on your patrol vehicle. That is unless you patroled the beach on a bicycle.

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    • mossbrain
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:11pm

      Yeah who’s doing the investigation, more crooked cops.

      http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/08/14/18656104.php

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    • richard the lion-hearted
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 11:01am

      @chips1 – Apparently you have no ability to self-govern or determine, all you have to do is look at the Kelly Thomas’s face you ignorant person. No one gets beaten like that unless it was intended. I know from experience as a bouncer and gifted fighter, I can subdue a man 50 pounds or more heavier than my 200 lbs. without beating him, it’s called joint manipulation of which all officers are trained for in taking down a suspect. I also can tell you from experience that almost ALL fights last less than a minute (one on one). To get beaten that bad takes many minutes, many blows. Six officers ‘chips1’, SIX!! I single-handedly fought a man who was high on heroin threatening to go get his gun in his car (while in a bar) for almost ten minutes because the police didn’t show up and he would not stay down once I put him there. I had no cuffs, no help, and his face looked similar once he finally gave up and I took the fight out of him. I still feel bad and ashamed that I didn‘t put him in a submission hold to ’subdue’ him, but I had never been trained to do so (self taught). After that incident though I made a promise to myself to NEVER let that happen again because I know that years down the road that a person can have severe repercussions from such trauma to the head and that still haunts me today regardless of the man’s actions against me or the other bar patrons. Side note: Broke my hand while fighting him as well, didn’t even know it till the next day (from adrenaline I

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    • Delta D-5-3
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:45pm

      chips1
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:14pm
      Apparently 7 years in law enforcement wasn’t in the best interest of the public. The article stated that an investigation was being conducted. I’d hate to have you respond to a crime. You would have made a final judgement just from the fact that you set the parking brake on your patrol vehicle. That is unless you patroled the beach on a bicycle

      Chips1, I take it your a police officer? In your eyes, these cops who beat this ONE man, AFTER tasering him into obliviation were justified to then BEAT HIM to a pulp?? And you wonder why people are finally wakeing up to the militeration of the US police force. What a joke…..

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  • xoke
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:55pm

    Man…I usually come down on the side of the police…but holy cow. I’m a fairly tough SOB, and I’ve been tasered…you are not putting up much of a fight after that. Not the kind of fight to warrant a beating like that. I hope these jackwagons get put in a cage where they belong.

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:53pm

    I KNOW THIS KIND OF THING HAPPENS! I have a very good friend who stopped after a slow speed chase, offered no resistance after and was stomped and kicked by several officers (about eight) and then kicked some more (likely solidarity with the cops) by EMS after they arrived on scene. This all went down in the wee hours of the morning on a desolate street (no witnesses). He spent two weeks in a hospital with broken ribs and facial bones. He was being chased for attempting to pick up a “******” who happened to be an undercover cop. My friend did talk with her, true, but did not offer her money for sex and drove off. Guess they needed an arrest, so after he drove off, they chased him down and she lied about what happened, after the beating of course. THERE ARE MANY ROGUE COPS OUT THERE and they PROTECT EACH OTHER. Disgraceful for America!

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    • RightPolitically
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:24pm

      By the way, that undercover female cop was shot dead by a criminal earlier this year, almost twenty years after the above described incident. One must wonder how much additional damage was done by this female cop and her buddies during those many years?

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  • Glenn in Virginia
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:52pm

    The Tazer is a very dangerous instrument. The big problem is: the cops don’t have a clue to whom it is dangerous.

    Having had quadruple bypass surgery and being, from that point forward, a lifelong cardiac patient, I’m reasonably sure one “zap” would kill me on the spot.

    I think it’s a dangerous instrumentality that should be banned.

    Possibly equally dangerous is pepper spray.

    All in all, I‘m reasonably sure I’d be a lot more likely to survive being shot with a gun than “zapped” or sprayed.

    Ugly, bloody, yes; but survivable. I like survival.

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    • Zer0
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:29pm

      @Glenn in Virginia,

      The problem with a cop using a gun vs tazer/pepper spray is that cops are not trained to shoot someone in the arm or leg. They are trained that in the event that the are forced to draw their firearm, they aim for “the center mass” which, in essence, is your torso. Second, cops tend to not stop discharging their firearms until they have empty their magazine.

      Cops should use lethal and non-lethal force only with the upmost discretion and only when needed.

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    • mossbrain
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:20pm

      Maybe you’ll get lucky and have Johannes Mehserle or Marcie Noriega shoot you with their “taser”

      Marcie Noriega, the Madera police officer who says she mistook her service weapon for her Taser and accidentally shot and killed Everardo Torres, 24, of Madera, will not face charges for the shooting.

      Torres was handcuffed and placed in the back of a police vehicle when shot in the chest.

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:52pm

    this a very sad thing that should have never happened, to beat some one who has already been tasered and on the ground, wow the union police are getting out of hand or getting ready for what they have been instructed to do. we all know that there is some video missing,and the truth can be skewed by the anarchist ,but damn, if he was just tasered ,he should have never looked like he had the hell beat out of him. if this is true and he was beat, they should let his family taser and beat the crap out all the police that we’re involved,

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  • Son_of_Liberty
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:51pm

    “Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of the day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers (adminstrators) too plainly proves a deliberate, systematic plan of reducing us to slavery.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    3%

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  • Lowgo1981
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:49pm

    Didn’t hear anything on tv about this. Must have just been a white guy.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:03pm

      There is much truth to your comment!

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 1:38am

      If it had been a black guy or an illegal alien the Eskimos and the Bulgarians would know about it by now.

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  • MrButcher
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:49pm

    Who wants to blame mexicans, muslims or marxists first?

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  • TumbleBumble
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:48pm

    Stories like this really make it hard to have a good feeling towards cops. I wish that wasn’t so.

    The video from the guys cell phone doesn’t show anything that I could make out – just the audio of it. If two cops were injured, then that says something rough was going on. But Thomas’ face is a bloody pulp.

    The cops who witnessed this need to speak up, and fast.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:01pm

      they said the cops had broken bones, but not which bones. Probably wrist or knuckles broken from beating this man

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  • dealer@678
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:47pm

    If it had been an illegal mexican they would have given him a police escort to the Beverly Hills Hilton

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    • I.Gaspar
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:08pm

      Hell; they would have offered him Paris Hilton if he was an illegal mexican.

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  • Netsurfer2
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:47pm

    How can you not move when your being tazed??? I believe the cops were very wrong in beating him and tazing him! They need to fire those cops that did it and look into those that stood there. They should have looked up his record to begin with and would have found he has a medical condition. Then they could have handled it right.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:26pm

      If his father knew about his sons condition, he should have hung a sign on him. I have made no opinion because of a lack of any information. The police were acting on the situation as presented to them at the time(correctly OR wrongly). They had no knowledge of this person at the time. He was reported to be breaking into cars which is illegal.

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    • looseyloo
      Posted on July 28, 2011 at 3:21am

      What? Breaking into cars, if he did it, does not justify what they did to his face. Look at the face in the picture above, then tell us how that could possibly have occurred in an encounter with all of those police.

      Please just give us a description of any plausible events that end up with the man’s face looking like that. Write it down, describe a possible blow-by-blow that the victim looks like that at the end of an arrest. There is no known scenario that would not include extreme, unwarranted brutality.

      They didn’t know who he was, the just came upon the situation, he got violent– all a bunch of hooey. He weighed 165 pounds. They smashed his face into an unrecognizeable mess. Get a clue.

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    • Delta D-5-3
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:52pm

      Chips1 your a REAL piece of work. Perhaps you didn’t get your dounut today??? Idiot……..

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  • grabyrgun
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:47pm

    what. no protests in the streets saying cop pigs you can’t kill us all? oooh sorry i forgot. he is WHITE!

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  • ISRAELISOURFRIEND
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:46pm

    If the cops become Union Cronies for Obama, we are in DEEP S.H.I.T.

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    • dealer@678
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:52pm

      Anyone with half a brain should leave that God forsaken state.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:53pm

      sorry to tell you this, but most are union

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    • Seneca264
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:58pm

      They already are sport.

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    • Middle Finger
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:00pm

      Oh my friend, if Obama para-militarizes unions, he will have his civilian force “just as well funded and trained as the US military.” That is deeper shite!

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  • grabyrgun
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:45pm

    is this part of obama’s civilian force as strong as the military? arms yourselves… you’re gonna need it.

    keep your powder dry ~ r

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  • KEA
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:45pm

    At what point do we hold cops like this accountable. There is no excuse for beating a person like this.

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  • AmericanStrega
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:44pm

    “It should be noted that, while some are claiming that he was not resisting arrest, two police officers did, indeed, have broken bones. This seems to indicate that there was a violent struggle of some sort”. The cops with broken bones were probably hit by their fellow cops. Kinda like when a shark gets bit by its fellow sharks during a feeding frenzy.

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    • ISRAELISOURFRIEND
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:56pm

      It should be noted that Casey Anthony’s father is an ex-cop, she goes free!

      Drew Peterson is an ex-cop, he will go free!

      These cops too will go free!

      Why?

      They know the system and how to manipulate it.

      Drowned in a swimming pool planted a seed of doubt. Nice? It worked…

      Sucks to be on the honest side…

      However;

      Nothing is stronger than THE TRUTH and in the end, that’s all that will matter.

      OBAMA, QUIT LYING TO US. THANKS!

      We know you know how to manipulate the system, hence “organizing for America”.

      This poor man deserves justice!

      Caylee deserves justice!

      Americans deserve Liberty and Justice FOR ALL!

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  • Phoenixsoulfire
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:42pm

    why are you deleting post that are tame and none offensive?

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    • grabyrgun
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:48pm

      they delete most of my stuff too. including this i suppose. guess glenn isn’t into the truth as much as he lets on…

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    • UnsilentMajority
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 11:08pm

      yeah… I wonder who reviews the posts. I tell a guy to put down his crack pipe cause he is so off base and in the next page some commie can call a vietnam vet a mass murder and it gets posted. go figure

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  • RazorsEdge
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:42pm

    $100 says cops got broken bones when the tried to punch guy at the same time as their buddy was hitting him with baton.

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  • ***** joe
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:41pm

    Filfhy d-bag cops………..I hate these above the SOB’s

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    • ilovestock
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:58pm

      with a mouth likes yours – you are no better than them.

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  • Phoenixsoulfire
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:40pm

    pretty much what I said but my post aren’t posting all the time

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  • Phoenixsoulfire
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:39pm

    Thise cops went to far, there should be something against tazing someone over and over if they are on the ground. Only should be allowed to taze again if the person gets up or attempts to pull the tazers out. The police might have gotten hurt when the man was defending him self.

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  • mrsmileyface
    Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:37pm

    Sad state of affairs if you cant trust the police in your neiborhood. This situation is beyond sad.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:51pm

      Thomas is one of those white terrorists that Home Land Security to be on the look out for. Well they just found one and eliminated him. Is Thomas a Jew? There is a TASER attack in every white American future. The cops got broken bones while beating Mr. Thomas to a pulp. Mothers should begin teaching their kids that the police are not our friends anymore.

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    • DeannaRae
      Posted on July 27, 2011 at 9:59pm

      @mrsmileyface

      Police are human beings with all of the weaknesses thereof. There are several types of people that are drawn to police work, but two are predominant. One is the person that seeks power and frequently uses it in ways that are not necessarily judiciouos. The second are those that are drawn to service. We are grateful for the second type and watchful of the first. Don’t assume that because they are police, they are in the right. Also, don’t assume that because they are police they are in the wrong.

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