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Political Endorsements Divide Veterans and VFW

In anticipation of the upcoming midterm elections, the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) PAC announced the group’s official political endorsements.  According to their website, the PAC “is dedicated to the support of candidates who have taken responsible positions on issues involving national defense and legislation pertaining to our nation’s veterans.”  But he PAC‘s endorsements are drawing some criticism from members and the VFW’s national line officers who are calling the group’s endorsement methodology process “seriously flawed at best this year and in immediate need of extensive review.”

“Even though the law requires that VFW-PAC be a separate organization, the acronym ‘VFW’ is attached to the committee and the natural assumption is that the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States is somehow making the endorsement decisions. Nothing could be further from the truth, but perception is reality,” said National Commander Richard Eubank.

“Obviously, an organization’s political positions have to reflect the opinions of its members. But those opinions can’t be perceived as ‘off the wall,’ and the methodology used this year to grade candidates obviously is skewed in favor of the incumbent,” he said.  “That isn’t fair, and it actually subverts the democratic process.”

The endorsement of some incumbent candidates are causing an uproar among members, including an endorsement for Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., who infamously dressed down a brigadier general for calling her “ma’am” during a congressional hearing.

The VFW-PAC has also endorsed Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., the author of H.R. 5353, the “War is Making You Poor Act.”

Blackfive military blogger Mr. Wolf condemned the VFW-PAC’s endorsements, claiming the organization “no longer abides by the very virtues our veterans lived and died by.”  The group‘s first round of endorsements didn’t receive much attention, but as more endorsements were announced — including some key races where the PAC endorsed “non-veterans over some highly qualified veterans from within their own organization,” it caught fire, Wolf explains.

Another race Wolf specifically objects to is the endorsement of Rep. Ron Klein, D-Fla., over retired Lt. Colonel Allen West. “LTC West, a hero from Iraq, and a member of the local VFW, is leading in the polls for that race.  Yet, here they were, the VFW going with the incumbent, non-serving, Democrat in the race.”

Worse, Wolf says, is a report from the Weekly Standard that Rep. Klein “voted against funding for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq back in 2008, voted for withdrawal timetables in 2007, and voted for the House concurrent resolution in 2007 which expressed disapproval of the Iraq War surge.”

“For many, that was the last straw in a series of gaffs the VFW has been doing since the Obama administration began,” Wolf wrote at Big Peace.

In a letter addressed to the PAC’s Executive Director, the VFW’s Florida Commander scolded the PAC, claiming its decision to endorse Klein over West would have “lasting and negative consequences on our ability to recruit and retain members in the Department of Florida.”

“It is evident from the tone of the received emails that the VFW-PAC and by association the Veterans of Foreign Wars is not sewing the interests of some members and potential members. This regional firestorm could have been avoided if the PAC board and staff remembered the old adage that all politics are local,” State Commander Pete Nicholsen wrote.

According to Wolf, the endorsements “ignited a firestorm” among VFW members who called and wrote into the group’s national headquarters. As for Wolf himself, a member of the VFW since he returned from Iraq, he says he’s renounced his membership and is asking others to do the same. “The current leadership is too entrenched, and the process too long to do that. The ONLY way to effect any change is via their pocketbook- period. Resign, drain their coffers of member dues, and they’ll change far quicker.”

John Lilyea, a military blogger at This Ain’t Hell and 20-year member of the VFW, shares Wolf‘s frustration but says he’s sticking with the organization to try and work for change from within. “I’ll admit that resigning my membership was my first reaction,” he writes, “but then I realized that it would probably do more damage than good.”

But members of the VFW who may object to the group‘s endorsements or endorsement process will have no recourse in this year’s elections. Instead, the national organization is now pledging to address the issue in 2011. “Because of the controversy surrounding the endorsements, VFW line officers have decided to bring the question of continued existence of the PAC to the floor during the 112th VFW national convention in August,” the group says.

Comments (92)

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  • Booberry
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 8:15am

    So, I regularly give money to the various veteran programs, I guess this one is coming off my list. I‘m sure I can double up on Oliver North’s organization. Just saying.

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  • AndrewOH
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:56am

    The VFW is working hard to destroy itself and as far as I’m concerned, succeeded. It is a mistake not to stop membership.
    They have decided to become close to socialists and–yes–communists.

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  • hempstead1944
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:41am

    This is unthinkable>>>>what is with the vfw ?

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  • derekcrane
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:50am

    The left is very good at infiltrating large organizations from within — even the VFW. Who would think — they must be retired Pentagon types. Barbara Boxer and the limp-wristed Alan Grayson? Amazing!

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    • derekcrane
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:21am

      It’s worse than you think. The VFW PAC also endorsed Rosa DeLauro, probably the most leftist Congressman and friend of the “peace” lobby, Patrick “Leaky” Leahy, known for blabbing state secrets, Chuck Schumer, no friend of America, Patty Murray, generally agreed to be the dumbest person in Congress, Harry Reid, no introduction necessary, and many more far left legislators. Take a look:
      http://www.vfwpac.org/Revised%20Endorsement%20List%20Sept%2024-1.pdf

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    • Midwest Conservative
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:42pm

      You are correct. The AMA and AARP come to mind for their support of HCR.

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  • RETSarge
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:29am

    I am not a member of the VFW nor will I ever be so view my comments from that perspective. It seems to me that the VFW, at its core, hasn’t changed. It continues to do what is expedient for the current benefit of the VFW leadership over the long term benefit of the member veterans. FULL DISCLOSURE..I am a Vietnam Vet who was denied membership in the VFW when I returned home due to ‘Nam not being a real war.

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    • PJPony
      Posted on October 13, 2010 at 2:00am

      I’m sure it was very real to you. I’m sorry for the behavior of some in this country when you returned home and I thank you for your courage in going to Nam. There are many people who believe in our vets and are grateful and we all feel shame and disgust over those who aren’t.

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    • NamProud
      Posted on January 10, 2012 at 4:53pm

      Sarge you have the VFW pegged correctly. VFW cliques have ruined the organization for members. If you sort thru the bs concerned postings are all over the Internet. With the exeption of an attorney campaigning for national, the future leadership crop is depleted. The current image is bad. By comparision, present day will be viewed as the good old days. APATHY is rampant throughout post membership which encourages incompetent political cliques to rise up. By default they get elected to top positions because apathy create meeting no shows. Since VFW lacks objective direction the backstabbing & cut throat exist throughout. Vets with anything on the ball won’t join to experience bullying. Those who do let their memberships lapse, but check the stats out for yourself. It is hard to believe some of these members once defended our country.
      .Any honorable member who rubs these cliques the wrong way soon find out their fate. They manipulate until they get what they want. If clique wrongs are pointed out political posturing kicks in & they know how to play the victim game. Ego nuts excel at tooting their horns with the gullible taking the bait. Go to a convetion and you will see comicial politicking. It is just a stage a political stage for misfits out for themselves. There are plenty of other organizations that do far better representing vets. When I think of VFW, I associate it with good old Bubba’s, embarrassment, & incompetnece. It didn’t use to be that way. Go elsewhere.

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  • NHABE64
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:00am

    As a lifetime member of the VFW I am wondering if some of our officials have lost sight of what we represent. These things I have been hearing about whose side they are on I do find disturbing and they are not representing me on these issues. NO way.
    Barbara Boxer by the way is a fool and not worthy of even being in the presence of this fine General. She is simply an ******* and I would love to tell her straight other face. How dare she do that to a military professional ? She can stick her so called title straight up her sorry ass!

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  • WireWizard
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 5:37am

    Time for the VFW membership to start a new PAC ASAP, Call it VFW-PAT-PAC. PAT for Patriot

    Where is John Galt?

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  • nothingbuthetruth
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 5:33am

    This makes me sick, The vets were my last hope of some sanity and good in this world. I was really relying on the vets to pull us out of this mess. GOD help us.

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  • BoilitDown
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:43am

    Wolf is right, if an organization no longer reflects your personal code of ethics it is only fitting to resign. These people misused the membership’s funds and need to face the consequenses. The American Legion lost me as a member when our local post forgot what the tenets of the organization were all about. If I were a VFW member I’d raise seven different kinds of hell like Wolf and then resign.
    Defend your code and don’t back down.

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  • GEDouglas
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:15am

    How is that people which represent the exact opposite of it‘s due’s paying members become the leaders of organizations like VFW? It seems all of our institutions have been infiltrated by progressive democrat socialist. I know this is part of their long term strategy and has been since Wilson but the VFW! They have managed it with education, unions, state and local governments, the courts….but the VFW??? This can’t stand. My family has a long history with the VFW with my father, several uncles, and myself (and I’m 57) all once being or currently a member. Someone above mentioned “fixing from within”. That’s certainly what needs to happen but the first step in accomplishing that is to get their attention. Issue a strong statement that can’t be ignored….. NO MORE MONEY! Every member who disagrees with these endorsements and what is obviously a progressive agenda (and I would hazard a guess and say the majority) should cancel their membership and stop the money stream. Once you get their attention, and this will, change will certainly follow.

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  • Marine Recon Dad
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:12am

    I called the VFW-PAC organization today. First off, the VFW spokeswoman told me that ABSOLUTELY no money was being funneled through them (VFW) to PAC. But when I questioned her as to where PAC gets their money (as they are a subsidiary of VFW), she clammed up and gave me another number to call (guess what, an answering machine).

    Next I called PAC,,,,, and guess what, another answering machine. WHEN THE HELL will these people get the message? Oh, and BTW – PAC is also supporting Patrick Leahy,,,, you know, the SOCIALIST from Vermont. WTH!!!!

    .. have dogs started sleeping with cats yet?

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  • USNVET66-70
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:59am

    Thank you for bringing up the subject of the military vote. I fear that the situation in NY of 320,000 military forms not being sent out will an excuse to invalidate / postpone the result of the election. Many people would support it out of rage that our service men / woman’s vote was not counted. They will be looking for a way to avoid the landslide against the present party in power.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:54am

    i live right next to a vfw in pa and am a social member………..all of its members didnt even know about this and they are pissed

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  • cheezwhiz
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:12am

    So what is the VFW-PAC doing to make sure that 100% of our men and women in uniform fighting abroad get to vote , ON TIME and their ballots COUNTED in 2010 elections ????

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    • FreedomOfSpeech
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:20am

      It’s always liberal districts that fail to get the ballots to our troops on time. I suspect they are particularly scared in this environment, as nearly all of those absentee ballots that go to military personnel will vote anti-incumbent.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:40am

      @ FreedomOfSpeech
      How about we start asking the candidates PUBLICALLY if they are aware of the problem of disfranchisement of out roops abroad , and what they will do to correct it ?
      I’d like to see some liberal @$$es squirm with discomfort answering that question because their cheap theatrics and phrases like “ bringing people together ”
      and “ minority voters rights ”
      and “ I will fight for you ”
      and “ democracy and social justice ”
      and “ working for the American people ”
      will not cut it this time .

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    • FreedomOfSpeech
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:51am

      The Feds are suing New York over it tomorrow so it’s a start. Sadly, a lot of those ballots could be state department personnel and those pukes vote democrat.

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  • Arc
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:11am

    During a recent extended vacation out thru OK, TX, AZ, NM, UT,, I noticed the countless memorials to the wars our country has fought since our Declaration of Independance. I noticed the graveyards, cemetaries, bridges, roads and structures honoring the fallen. Dozens of VFW’s, American Legions,
    Paralyzed Veterans of America, Viet Nam Veterans organizations dotted the trail I took. On Veterans
    Day, Nov 11,2009 I sat at a Veterans Memorial in Littlefield, Texas .Having spent 20 years in service to my country, standing against Marxist, Socialist and Communist regimes, I was painfully aware of just how much blood was shed in defense against those forms of government. Not only for the rights of my countrymen, but for the rights of others in other lands. My personal battles were trying to make sense of our current governments allowance for the likes of Van Jones, Carole Browner and other vocal supporters of the teachings of Chairman Mao, Che Guevera and other foreign sources of influence in our governemnet. Slowly, the realization that the blood shed by my former brothers in arms, was being made meaningless by the introduction of Marxist, Socialist and Communist into our Freedom, Liberty and Justice For All form of government. Even more alarming to me was the fact that a lot of American citizens were turning a blind eye to the slow infestation of our country by the enemies of freedom. And now I see that the VFW and other Veteran Organizations are having trouble deciding what stance they will take in support of a political party. I suggest you spend a few days weighing the difference between freedom and communism, socialism or marxism. The easiest decision I ever made was the one that meant I would never be shackled to a political party.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:23am

      Thank you very much for your service Sir.
      It shames me to see the sacrifices of so many men and women of honor being negated by political allegiances of a handful of political hacks.
      But I have faith….. this November. .

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:41am

      Also from myself thanks for the service to keep our light of freedom alive.

      Too many people forget what is given by the defenders of our home.

      Thank you and God keep you, our soldiers, and all those fallen from the first in His protective embrace.

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    • PJPony
      Posted on October 13, 2010 at 1:53am

      Thank you for your service, sir. I have never served, but I did live outside of the US for several years. During this time, I realized just how wonderful this country is. I will never take it for granted, nor will I ever be still when I see something that threatens it. It is extremely heartbreaking to me to see an organization that represents our wonderful vets backing these infiltrators. It is also distressing to know our National Park Service has allowed the removal of the memorial cross. I will not enter another VFW and I will no longer visit another National Park until our veterans are respected and the cross is once again allowed to be a symbol of love and respect for those who have fallen for our freedoms.

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    • American_Woman
      Posted on October 13, 2010 at 11:25pm

      Thank you for your service ARC. I was in Washington DC on 8/28 and stood in the National Mall between all the war memorials and wept. I’ve never held a gun or sacrificed much of anything, but the duty I felt in my soul that day to protect our country was great. I for one don’t know exactly how yet, but I won’t just sit down and let our country be over-taken by socialism. And I know I’m not the only civilian who feels that way. Thank you for making it possible for me to KNOW and love freedom.

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  • jcatlanta
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:07am

    Which is why an informed electorate should not give money to ANY PAC in my opinion. We should read the individual politicians views, read their websites, look at their voting records if they have one and give accordingly.

    I have been lead for the first time in my life this election cycle to seek God and ask for wisdom and discernment on which campaigns to donate money to. There are great candidates out there and many black conservatives in districts that have been democratic for decades that need our support. It is imperative we use our voice or we won’t have one soon. I feel we have better candidates this election cycle overall than in my lifetime (my first election was 76 when I first voted for Reagan when he lost). I am very encouraged by the Military Vets like Alan West in FL-22 or Sean Bielat in MA-4 (against Barney Frank and on the verge of winning) and I am encouraged by the conservative Pastors that are running like Stephen Broden in TX-30 (against a corrupt democrat).

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  • Will NV
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:56am

    These liberal orgs need to be shamed and then shuned.
    There is nothing patriotic about their choices.
    All Democrat-Socialist-Communist-Marxist-Nazis.
    Everything a real vetern fought against.
    Either quit the org or never sign up.

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  • RobertCA
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:56am

    Yeah right Barb you worked hard to get that title & guess what , WE THE PEOPLE is gonna take that title away .
    I only hope that Californians are tired of your 28 years sitting on a chair & filling your pockets .

    Robert .

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  • joseph Fawcett
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:55am

    It sounds like the country today.

    http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist

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  • Ken
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:41am

    Boxer? Klein? GRAYSON??? WT(V)F(W)?!?!?

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  • ...............R..U..Kidding...Me
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:30am

    It looks like another union trying to control the military. I think it is good to stop paying dues to any organization that doesn’t surpport your views. Just another look how the socialist union supports have inflitrated the military and are controling the voices of the retired military. Fight back. Stop the union.

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  • jjbbaj14
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:30am

    I wonder, as a veteran, if I can sue this group to force them to change their name. They do not represent me in any way, shape, or form. They are a disgrace to veterans.

    Supporting an anti-war-funding politician over a veteran. Shameful!!!!! Ms. Barbara “Call me senator” Boxer? Disgraceful!!!!!!! Whoever made these selections needs to be fired immediately!!!!!!

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    • ...............R..U..Kidding...Me
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:50am

      Maybe start a new VFW. Call it (True VFW) for all those that actually are veterans. Leave out unions and veterans wantabes like duds running for office who claim to have been in Nam but…oh I misspoke crap.didn’t. .

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    • RealityCheck
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:37am

      I would follow Wolf and stop the funding, I can understand wanting to create change from within but lets be realistic, waiting til 2011 and continuing to fund this outright slap in the face is just denial. How would it feel to know you keep funding something and then before you know it, it’s too late to do anything within or from the outside? Scary stuff if you ask me.

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  • FreedomOfSpeech
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:26am

    Barbara Boxer? Gimme a break. I wonder if they also endorse the scumbag who said our military is “burning villages and killing civilians” in Afghanistan.

    Who said that? Why, it’s our usurper president of course. What a patriot.

    Obama burns books just like the Nazis did.

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  • dominke
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:25am

    VFW PAC should be ashamed for degrading its members. The members should also be ashamed for not canceling membership NOW. I left VFW a few years ago as I saw some of its leaders going the wrong way. They can quit now or wait until it doesnot matter. I believe in doing whats right some dont.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 5:25am

      Could it be that the VFW was bought by George Soros?

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:05am

      I will not ever to The VFW again. Backing the dirtbag Alan Grayson abd a Barbra Boxer.

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:09am

      GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:05am
      I will not ever give to The VFW again. Backing the dirtbag Alan Grayson and a Barbra Boxer

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    • Post-Progressive American
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:14am

      I never thought I would see this from a VFW-related organization. Have we really sunken this low?

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    • RONALDREAGAN1980
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:52am

      Any veteran knows the Republicans have not been friendly to the Dept of Veterans affairs. Promises made to both my parents who served in WWII have gone unfulfilled, benefits have been cut, programs scaled back or eliminated. Whenever we deal with the VA, my 91 year old mother goes into her usual, “But we were promised this.. that… or the other”, and i have to remind her that is what she gets for voting republican all those years. Now what we hear are “Oh, that service is no longer available unless you are at least 70% service-related disabled“ or ”We don’t do that anymore“ or ”Yes, but there is a 2 year waiting list“ or ”No, you have to pay for that now”. The republicans don’t give a damn about the veterans who kept our world safe from Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini…. they are just waiting for them to die off. However, the republicans sure are big on sending our kids off to fight in the wars de jour. It would be a lot more convenient for them if our kids didn’t come back.

      RONALDREAGAN1980  
    • starman70
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 8:59am

      Good by donations to VFW. I know it will hurt the veterans but the leadership is causing my boycott. When they elect leaders who reflect the values that we fought for, they may regain my support.

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    • pavnvet
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 10:23am

      @RONALDREGAN1980
      WWI veteran benefits were the most liberal ever provided returning military. If you have a fault with them, you should blame the Democrat Administration of Harry Truman. I can’t imagine what kind of benefit your 91 year old mother thinks she is entitled to or what promises were broken. I also can’t imagine what benefits were reduced by Republican actions. As to Republican wars, sorry to inform you I was in Vietnam because of 2 Democrat Presidents. In fact, veteran benefits are usually the one item that receives bi-partisan support.

      Now let’s move onto the VFW. That POS Senatorial Candidate Bloomenthal in Connecticut actually came out and said he misspoke regarding serviing in Vietnam at a VFW Post. (Which is against their national policy). I have other beefs with the VFW and this is why I never belonged to the group. Hell, the name itself is misleading as you do not have to be a veteran of a foreign war, just to have served during war time. The sad fact is that many vets belong to these posts because they have a cheap bar. (Before anyone goes off on that statement, there are exceptions to that and I applaud the members that do work voluntarily to better the situation of their fellow veterans).

      The VFW, along with all veteran groups should do one thing politically and only one thing. That is to promote or protest legislation that affects veterans. I do not believe they should be involved, either directly or indirectly in the election process as it can cause harmful dissention among its members.

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 10:50pm

      My God! the left wing radicals have infiltrated every thing.

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    • Rickfromillinois
      Posted on October 13, 2010 at 8:04am

      As a veteran and a U.S. Army retiree I can say that in my opinion the party that is in the forefront of cutting veteran benefits are the Democrats, not the Republicans. The absolute worse in my time was Jimmy Carter followed closely by Bill Clinton. To claim that the Republicans are the main ones who cut veteran’s benefits is a gross distortion of the truth. As for the idiotic claim that the Republicans are the ones who are quick to send Americans off to war I wish to point out the there was a Democrat in office at the beginning of WW1, WW2, Korea, and Viet Nam. Of course allot of liberals don’t let little things like history get in the way of their so called “facts”.

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  • snowleopard3200
    Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:22am

    Lets see this group endorses progressives, and backs those like Sen. Boxer who upbraids the general for usage of the military correct phrase of “ma’am” in recognition of one of superior ranking. Once again it seems to be that controversy of the fact that the old progressive guard has gotten too entrenched and is determined to punish those who survived serving in wars, and securing that very freedom they enjoy to gripe about it.

    Many of these veterans had friends and family as well who gave the final sacrifice of life and limb, often both for our country to be free and safe. Remember, freedom is not free for it comes at the cost and price of eternal vigilance.

    To all who have served you have my thanks and my graditute forever.

    http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mixed art)

    Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}  
    • FreedomOfSpeech
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:42am

      Are those cats?

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    • LONGLEGGEDMACKDADDY
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:17am

      Nice pictures. Have you ever been in prison?

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:36am

      Why do all the pictures have horns on them?

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:35am

      To answer the questions in this order 1. Yes they are cats – humanoid type cats look up on google references to “Cat Girls” 2. No prison I am self taught 3. No they are not horns, they are the girls ears as in “cat ears.”

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mixed art)

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    • DrammyCoke
      Posted on October 13, 2010 at 7:13am

      They are breathtaking, would you mind if I printed them out and put them on the underside of my top bunk so I can stare at them while I fall asleep?

      How old are you? Where did you study?

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    • golfguy
      Posted on October 13, 2010 at 12:00pm

      Thank you for your appreciation of Veterans. I served two tours in Viet Nam, I am a life member of the VFW and I had no idea the VFW was endorsing candidates for public office. I get the monthly magazine plus hundreds of mailings asking for donations constantly, but I have never been given a chance to vote for whom I want to see elected. I am appalled at some of the endorsements mentioned in this article and I will write the National Commander and express my outrage. Thanks for pointing this out, my guess is there are more veterans who feel the way I do and trust me Boxer and Grayson would not be our pick.

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    • JackBoot101
      Posted on October 13, 2010 at 12:13pm

      Use to be a member of the VFW but have not been for several years because there is no Post near where I live; however, If I were a member I would tear up my card NOW.

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