POLL: Almost 1/3rd of ‘Occupiers’ Say Violence Is OK
- Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:23am by
Mike Opelka
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According to a poll published today in the Wall Street Journal, 31% of the protesters in Zucotti Park believe that violence is OK in order to advance their agenda.
From this stunning OP-ED piece from pollster Douglas Schoen we have learned the following about those who want us to believe that they represent 99% of the nation’s population:
- 32% call themselves Democrats – 33% say that no party represents them
- 25% probably will not vote in 2012
- 52% have been politically active before
- 98% support civil disobedience (that’s kind of obvious… if you’re camping in a city park for a month, guess what you’re doing?)
- 15% are unemployed… meaning most have jobs
- 51% disapprove of Obama’s performance
- 48% claim that they will vote to re-elect the president
Schoen’s analysis of the protesters also includes his astute comparisons to the overall population, and a question as to why the President and the more left-leaning wing of the party are aligning with the movement:
Among the general public, by contrast, 41% of Americans self-identify as conservative, 36% as moderate, and only 21% as liberal. That’s why the Obama-Pelosi embrace of the movement could prove catastrophic for their party.
Consider that the very top level of the Democratic Party is openly endorsing the protests. Former President Clinton has called it “good positive debate.” President Obama claimed that Dr. King would support them as well.
Add to that fact, significant portions of the mainstream media are endorsing the occupations – Ed Schultz has promised to cover the story “until the last protesters go home.”
SEIU’s Stephen Lerner has been photographed marching with protesters in Chicago.
Van Jones appears to be looking for an opportunity to step in front of the crowds and lead them back to (his version of) the American Dream, he recently appeared with Ed Schultz:
Did you catch that? Mr. Jones said:
“…we should let the spirit of this movement co-opt the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, and the whole country; it’s the best thing in America right now.”
The best thing in America right now? Democratic pollster Douglas Schoen begs to differ:
Our research shows clearly that the movement doesn’t represent unemployed America and is not ideologically diverse. Rather, it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence.
Read the rest of Schoen’s op-ed here.



















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Comments (187)
JohnQTaxpayer
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:16amAnd as soon as someone kicks their ass they will be against violence.
A brain dead protester throwing a brick thru your window, OK for them
You shooting back in self-defense, not going to be a good day for them
Going later to the sporting goods store to buy more ammo
Priceless
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:39amthese wimps don’t even need bullets shot at them you can hit them with a paint ball and they will run home crying.. MORE so if they are wearing their DESIGNER clothes.. LOL..
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:15amI’d like to see the same poll for the Tea Party. I bet the results would be close to 1 or 2%.
Report Post »Oh, I see 13th Imam had the same thought.
Well, I second that idea.
CatB
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:39amYes .. also the 2/3 that said no would just “go along” .. in the TEA Party the 98 – 99 percent would not (I hated to have to use 99% LOL! They really think they are the “majority” .. I am not the 1% but I sure a H E L L am not part of them!)
TEA!
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:13amThe objective of the “Occupy Thugs” is violence. http://commonsense21c.com/
The purpose of these demonstrations is to create the chaos required to justify the declaration of martial law and suspension of the Constitution. The wannabe tyrants will not accept compromise that does not advance the cause of chaos. Their plan is the use of force and violence to overthrow the Constitution and create a world with the tyrant uses the unbridled force against the individual.
Any attempt to compromise with these wannabe tyrants will only result in increasing the length of the confrontation and make the final solution more painful! See the cartoon describing the economic system that will result from their efforts. http://commonsense21c.com/images/TYRANNY-OLD-ECONOMY.jpg
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:21amYou know, there’s medication you can take for paranoia…
I.Gaspar
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:47am@spineless:
Report Post »But is there anything you can take to make you less of a dimwitted fool?
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:44am@Lumbar
Oh my, more hoplophobia.
I encourage you to consult Sigmund Freud in regards to hoplophobia.
Slainte!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:49pmThere are no Constitutional provisions for the declaration nor implementation of martial law. Any attempt to do so would constitute a coup d’etat.
Report Post »Diego Roswell
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:54pmToby – The Japanese thought twice about invading the US mainland, except for remote islands off of Alaska. Why? Because the military leaders knew that millions of American civilians were armed. Any attempt by this president or any other to violate their oath of office, or suspend habeas corpus, will be met by those millions.
Report Post »Augie4
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:12amI don’t know about the bongo bangers. Those things seem like a good place to hide stuff.
Report Post »MattO
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:11amLet’s see…. They’re against any war, but FOR violence/revolution. Explain that…. anyone?
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:44amCure for that.. BRING back the DRAFT.. see how much against war they are when they are getting shot at..
Report Post »FEMALL
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:45amWar=Capitalists
Report Post »Revolution= Democracy/The ends justify the means
Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:04amWhat these useful idiots don’t understand about violence is that there are thousands of veterans who actually know all about violence. The “silent majority” is not so silent anymore.
Report Post »Applehead
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:12amThese are the real Jews Christians love so dearly and should stand with!!! I stand with these Jews!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZiVRedU-4&feature=related
Report Post »undercover
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:36amWake up applehead – So, you think it’s time to jump on the anti-Jew bandwagon? We’ve seen how that ends, and it’s never pretty!
Report Post »Applehead
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:20pmUNDERCOVER, Prayer and fasting not war and violence!!! Anyone who lives by the sword will die by the sword!!!
Report Post »tommy_pete
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:12pm@ Applehead. I beg to differ with you.. Those who DON’T live by the sword are usually shot by those that do!
Report Post »bringiton
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:03amWell, I’ll be dipped! Something I agree with them about!
Report Post »TxMadMac
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:01amPray for Israel, pray for America and pray for Christians worldwide. The evil ones have control and they have us in their sights. These lost souls are their tools, one of many, to bring this nation down. May Almighty God have mercy on us.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:06amSomething that these radical hippies should be made aware of is the fact that the silent, patriotic majority of America, when backed into a corner, is also fine with using violence to defend their lives, family and country, and they are much better armed and prepared to win.
Report Post »FREDD The WILSON
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:16amThat’s right TX, we are the ones with the .357′s and .44′s and plenty of ammo.
Report Post »STOPTHEPROGRESSIVES
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:02amwell said Tex.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:00amBlaze, Please replace OWS with the TEA Party. Do the same poll. Might be enlightening
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:09amThe neocons back there behind this site don’t understand what “Don’t Tread on Me” really means.
They think it’s ok for the INCOMPETENT local police to be teamed up with the corrupt ATF and going door to door questioning residents about their firearms in Cleveland…
It’s for our “safety”, not a Nazi-run Door-to-Door Gun Confiscation Pilot Program…noooo….it isn’t in violation of Posse Comitatus…nooo…
Nothing to see here folks. Move along.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/10/law_enforcement_officers_go_do.html
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:57amV-MAN MACE…so you think Cleveland should do nothing to disarm criminals in a high cime area? Interesting…
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:46amYou cannot disarm a criminal until he becomes a criminal or is caught in the comission of a crime. If a person is going about his day without harming anybody, who is armed, then he is not a criminal and cannot be disarmed.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:49amLumbar Spine
How bout jailing the criminals or just execute them, and leave the law abiding citizens alone.
Report Post »We’ll never give up our guns, to you or your commie friends
Diego Roswell
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:47pmV-MAN – Law enforcement agencies that participated in Thursday’s canvass called “Knock and Talks,” included Cleveland police, the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Office, Ohio Highway Patrol and U.S. Border Patrol. If this is not a snatch and grab operation by the feds, I don’t know what is. Reminds me of Nazi Germany, “just tell us what you know about your neighbors, it will go easier on you later”. Gun owner = Jew. The sheep that call themselves US citizens are getting what they deserve. Government, rather than liberty.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:10pmIf you think that going door to door asking residents about their firearms is intended to disarm criminals, then you have some learning to do.
If they knew who the “most violent criminals” were, then why are they JUST NOW going after them…AND asking people about their firearms?
Why do they claim that their door-to-door fishing expedition confuses criminals in the area about who is snitching to the cops or not?
Why must everyone get caught up in their dragnet fishing expo in cooperation with the CORRUPT ATF WHO JUST GOT CAUGHT SNEAK ATTACKING THE 2ND AMENDMENT because the local law enforcement is INCOMPETENT when it comes to preventing violent crime?
They aren’t targetting “high crime areas’, that would mean the entire city of Cleveland…they’re targetting the so-called “most violent criminals”, which there is no way for them to know until they encounter them, or else they wouldn’t be on the streets, and if they are, THEN WHY ARE THEY ON THE STREETS?
What does targetting the most violent criminals for outstanding warrants have to do with asking residents about what kind of firearms they own?
This is TYRANNY!!!
WAKE UP!!!!
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:59amAnd exactly how did the pollster define “violence”…breaking a window? Knives, guns…? Waterboarding? The question itself is flawed…but, of course, I doubt if any of you Einstein’s here would notice that.
Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:09amHey thanks for noticing we’re much smarter than you! Have a nice day troll.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:25amHow bout fat ass Rosanne Barr threatening to chop bankers heads off if they don’t hand over their money.
Bring it on, she loses
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:16pmYou have something of a point in regards to “what kind of violence”. However I think it’s safe to say that when people answer “are you willing to use violence to advance a political cause” the respondee is probably not assuming that the questioner is asking “Will you go out and gently slap the hands of those with whom you disagree while playfully laughing”.
Initiating violence against people not engaged in violence is wrong, it’s always wrong, it will never be right. The kind of violence is irrelevant. If you initiate violence you open yourself up to retalitatory violence, and you have no reason to expect your protest to those acting in self defense to be taken seriously.
So, technically you have a minor point, which when taken into the argument as a logical consideration, means nothing to the whole of the argument.
I so enjoyed studying the ancient Greek sophists. :)
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:57amIf anyone caught Fox and friends this morning, specifically an interview with Peter Johnson Jr., he was talking about the 300K the protesters raised and brought attention that the teachers union warehouse was storing supplies ( something Glenn has made it a point to discuss ). PJJ also metioned that in the warehouse are swim goggles, which he seemed oblivios to the fact of what are THOSE for? Well gee, do you think OWS is getting ready for violence??
Report Post »qzak491
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:32amLike they say, they think violence is OK. If you hit them hard enough in the head those swim goggles will fill with blood and they will drown.
By the way I am a KYian also.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:34amSwim goggles are to protect the eyes from police pepper spray…
AxelPhantom
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:56amI didn’t see any swim goggles at the TEA party protests. Guess they didn’t think that they would be doing anything that would threaten the safety of the police.
Another way of looking at it is that if you trust the character of people you surround yourself with knowing they are peaceful, law abiding and honorable people, you don’t need to be worried about pepper spray in the first place.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:01amUhhh, AXEL… a week or so ago peaceful protesters in New York were pepper sprayed by police. Thankfully it was not widespread.
AxelPhantom
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:21amIntentionally invading the safe zone that every police officer has whether it is a traffic stop or a protest is not peaceful. It is provolking a response and the protesters knew it, they got what they wanted so cry me a river.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:23amThe Pepper Spray will be a welcome relief from the Stench of these useful idiots
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:47am@ QZAK:
Awesome! Where abouts? I’m in Northern KY
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:57amLiberalism is a mental disorder. Just listen to these fools.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:53amCool, let‘s beat ’em up.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:34amMy daddy taught me.
Never start a fight,
Always finish one.
You must have never had a daddy, Sorry
Report Post »Mommy_of_3
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:54am@13TH IMAM ~ That’s right! My mother taught us the same thing. You never, NEVER throw the first punch but you damn sure finish the fight if they are so bold to start it.
I am 30-something yr old woman – just ask the three males what happened when they hit me. (2 broken noses & a quick flight over a desk with an even quicker landing on his a$$)
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:29am@13th Imam
It’s called sarcasm. Like your screen name, moron.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:52amWitty SPANK! OWS motto…..it ain’t a party til someone gets hurt.
Report Post »Uechi
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:52amThe people who say they want or are ok with violence believe it. It doesn’t matter whether they are paid or not they are dangerous. Wake up America before there are rivers of blood in the streets, caused by these misguided and in many cases evil people.
Report Post »drago
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:46amAnd 100% of legal gun owners say, bring it……Lock and load people!
Report Post »Applehead
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:58amSave $5.00 a month and read this it will tell you all you need to know that Glenn will NEVER tell you!!! http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html
No wonder they will never talk about Ron Paul! He not for any foreign aid or anymore wars in the ME! Ron Paul is the only man that will change our country for the better!!! Why won’t Glenn tell you this??? Fact check all the names owning and controlling the media that we blame in this country! They are all on the same side, you are being deceived America and Glenn is part of it as much as anyone!!!
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:22am@Applehead.. Fitting name.. Course Rockhead would be better..
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:30amThanks for the riviting video. OK Actually , I didn’t look at the video. Oh yeah , I heard yesterday that Sybil was a hoax. You know , multi-personality Sybil. How’s about some video on Sybil?
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:40amWell, of course they say that. They have been well paid to SAY it, but standing there after they are bloodied and flat on their butts in the street will change that tune, I’d bet. Maybe 1 out of 500 would still be willing to fight?
LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND OF ALL WHO DWELL THEREIN, please forgive our absolute insanity and heal us, LORD. In JESUS’ name, amen.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:44amAmen to that Grandma!
Report Post »Godfather.1
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:13pm@kickagrandma
So in one sentence you criticize those who would support violence and then support violence yourself. Wow! Then, you have the audacity to praise Jesus. What would Jesus say? I bet according to you he would advocate violence against these people.
Report Post »ronaldreaganthegreat
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:39amThey better be careful what they wish for… We out number them by tens of millions and it will end very bad for them :-)
Report Post »Oldphoto678
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:40amBut you don’t out number those that support OWS. Twice as many americans support the protest as support the tea party. That’s close to half the population. Three quarters of the popunation support President Obama’s jobs bill. Doesn’t sound like you out number anyone to me. Much less by 10′s of millions. So I have an idea. Why don’t you do something different? Instead of flapping your lips about how you out number us, and how badly it’s going to turn out for us when your little minority of tea party types have finnally had enough. Why don’t you stop running your mouth, and pick up your gun? Otherwise just go back to waving your flag, and pretending you’re relivant
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:46amPeople like you who subscribe to this irrational, paranoid view of America as expressed on these boards are actually (thankfully) a very tiny minority. It’s part of your delusion that makes you believe otherwise. Join reality…it’s actually not too bad.
Oldphoto678
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:49am@LUMBAR SPINE
Reality has no place in the tea party.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:09pmLumbar and Old man have no idea how much we outnumber them, plus we got all the ptotection we need to.
Obama is just a coon and porch monkey
Report Post »Godfather.1
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:18pm@ronaldreaganthegreat
You don’t outnumber anyone. More people showed up to Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert’s rally and they announced it nowhere near as far in advance as Glenn Beck. However, because you don‘t read anything that doesn’t come from Glenn Beck, you would never know that.
Oh yeah, I see you praise Ronald Reagan. Well did you know that he raised taxes a number of times, raised the debt ceiling, and exponentially increased federal spending? If Ronald Reagan were running for President right now you would hate him and say he is a RINO.
@MHP
If you’ve ever wondered why everyone thinks tea partiers are racists, you only have to look at your last comments. For those tea partiers who always claim the tea party is not racist, thank @MHP and other like him for showing the tea party’s true colors.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:59pm@Godfather
If your contention is that nasty, rehensible comments by MHR make everybody or even most associated with the tea party racists, then it is a fair counterpoint to note that because Hitler, a devout socialist leftist, perpetrated genocide then it logically follows that all leftists advocate genocide.
Your choice in the discussion now comes down to retracting your statement, or standing firm and proudly accept being in the company of Hitler in your ideology. What do you choose?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:38am…and Democrats support them. Remember this independents, remember this.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:38amWhen you believe that you are entitled to the “redistribution” of your neighbor’s goods, it isn ‘t much of a leap to believe that you are also entitled to use violence to get those goods. The Democrats are running with a dangerous crowd. Malcolm X learned that lesson. Guess Van Jones and company haven’t done their historical research.
Report Post »Hephzibah
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:36amI imagine 1/3 of every crowd would be stupid, unmovable leftists but I‘m surprised that number isn’t larger in this crowd of fools.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:38amMaybe they are the only part of the crowd who have been told by their masters of the left to be called socialists and radicals.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:47amThe number is larger. The other 2/3 rds are just smart enough to know that telling the truth would hurt their cause.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:35amWell, what a GREAT place for Muslim extremists to blend in with the violent crowd! The Communists, Socilaists, Marxists and Nazi‘s aren’t even HIDING any longer. These people protesting have NO IDEA how bad things can get. This isn’t just a pot smoking hippy sleep over party..
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:01amOMG…the Caliphate Glenn predicted!!! Grab your guns…LOL.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:07amMost of them wouldn’t join the military to defend this country. They are COWARDS! Watch how fast they will run and hide if real violence starts. The remaining 1/3rd will be the only ones left. They are the dedicated Communist and Marxist revolutionaries. The rest are just “Useful Idiots”.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:20amIf you read your history, socialists and fascists have long had a love affair with Islam. While the goals of the Jihad and Socialism/Nazism are wildly divergent, their enemies (free men and women) and their tactics are similar; a synergy exists between the two forces and is chronicled in the history books.
Indeed, it was the Hitler regime which lamented their being saddled with the flabbiness of Christianity and envied the “warrior” nature of the muslims. Hitler employed muslims to kill for him during WWII.
I would even go so far as to suggest that Soros is taking his directions directly from the Saudi Royal Family. The 1,400 year old Jihad puts newcomers like Soros in short pants.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:33amThis will not end without violence and that violence will spread. It is the intent Obama’s and the Democrat party.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:50amAnd that is exactly their intent and this exact timing. How convenient for this to occur with one year to go until the next election. Get ready, folks, this is going to be a bumpy and scary ride.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:29amScared is exactly what Glenn Beck wants you to be…because then you’ll tune in and listen to more of his paranoid predictions of death, doom and devastation which never actually come true. And maybe you’ll even buy some of his merchandise, too. A coffee mug perhaps…or a $65 polo shirt.
BTW, where’s that Claiphate…?
Bill Rowland
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:39amLumbar – The Muslim Brotherhood was active in all the uprisings in the Middle East. There goals are sharia law and a caliphate for the 13th Imam to rule, just look at their stated objectives.
The establishment of the caliphate and the appearance of the 13th Imam is their signal for world wide revolt and the establishment of Islam as the only religion.
OMG
Report Post »FToth84
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:31amNo real surprise here. It is apparent 100% want to over throw The USA.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:26am1/2 of all country folk agree and are heavily armed. Bring it on.
And By the By, shoot the bongo bangers first.
Report Post »JohnQTaxpayer
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:08amshoot the bongo bangers first
that is so funny
Report Post »Wrath or Mercy
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:00pmI got a .357 should the psycho’s come down my street with the intent to hurt me or mine no issues putting down animals, (only animals wouldn’t think about where they defecate but maybe animal is too nice, as even an animal prefers to be clean and not soil where it sleeps)
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