Poll: Who Won Tuesday’s GOP Presidential Debate?
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Tacitus42
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:03pmMichelle kept the focus on Obama she wins.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:10pmwill be in a massive war with her
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:19pmIt was an interesting debate. Romney fell on his face and as far as I’m concerned, dead in the water as a legitimate Republican candidate. Maybe he should move to the party he represents. Progressive.
I was torn between Ron Paul and Herman Cain. They both have the right answers, although I think that Gingrich is far and away the most intelligent across the board candidate on the stage. God knows I love Michele Bachmann but there’s just something missing. Can’t put my finger on it. Her ideals are rock solid, but I‘m not convinced that she believes what she’s saying. No conviction. I’m afraid that Obama would humiliate her in head to head debates. Cain, Paul would hold their own and win as much as they would lose debating Obama. If they can keep the debate on economy, they shut Obama down cold. Gingrich would run Obama right out of the Country debating any topic, including Constitutional Law. My problem with Gingrich is that he’s not turning hard enough back to the Constitution.
Cain
Paul
Gingrich
Bachman
Perry
Romney’s not a Republican.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:37pmnewt is not dumb “politically”… but i feel he would roll over to big business and special interests, just from his past records… plus he believes in man made global warming…
Report Post »Misty Williams
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:45pmI think keeping the focus on Obama defeats the purpose of the Republican only debate. If you’re campaigning to get the nomination to run against Obama, then you’re obviously against him. We need to hear the campaigners discuss issues with one another, what makes them different from one another, not what makes them the same (i.e. being focused as against Obama.) Just my take.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 3:10am@ Misty Williams
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:45pm
I think keeping the focus on Obama defeats the purpose of the Republican only debate. If you’re campaigning to get the nomination to run against Obama, then you’re obviously against him. We need to hear the campaigners discuss issues with one another, what makes them different from one another, not what makes them the same (i.e. being focused as against Obama.) Just my take.
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It’s a good take.
Emrys
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 8:43am@Misty
Agreed.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 8:49amtoo bad they aren’t really debates.
Report Post »Gerrymanderer
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 8:57amA Motely Crew. Squabbling, finger pointing, jabbing millionaires reminded me of a fifth grade classroom. Is this what’s going to defeat Obama? …IS this the best that the GOP has to offer? I fear for my GOP and am slowly coming to realize that no one candidate has a shot in hell. Glenn, can you please run for office?
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:04amNotice on the debate last night when NV was asking if nuclear waste was going to be dumped on them?
TWO candidates saw it as a matter of PAYING NV ENOUGH MONEY and only Ron Paul said IT WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL STATES RIGHT ISSUE!
What do you think? Does a slick politician with MONEY solve America’s problems, or is the CONSTITUTION the answer?
Ron Paul, President 2012
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:29amMichele lost when she voted for the Patriot Act Extension. Disqualified as unconstitutional.
Herman lost because he worked for the Fed and says it shouldn’t be audited, his 9-9-9 plan is a GIMMICK that won’t work when the Federal Reserve keeps inflating the currency.
Rick Perry is a Bilderberger Globalist stooge who supported the Trans Texas Corridor, supports a North American Union, supports instate tuition for illegals, etc.
Rick Santorum is a foreign policy mess. He is a neocon warmonger.
Romneycare is Obamacare. Disqualified.
John Huntsman is a provocatuer caught red handed helping foment dissent at a Jasmine Revolution rally in China…and has his own issues with being CIA lackey… even though he is articulate and charismatic, etc.
Newt Gingrich always knows the right talking points to hit, and he does it well with orthodox wit, but that type of finesse doesn’t neccessarily come from sincerity, it comes from him being around WAY TOO LONG on the establishment republican plantation. He’s good at it. He’s gotten good at blowing smoke up rear ends.
I would say that of all the candidates on the stage, Ron Paul would choose either Michele Bachmann or Newt Gingrich as his VP. That‘s not to say he wouldn’t choose someone wholly unexpected that isn’t even on the stage. I would prefer that he chose Michele Bachmann over Gingrich, because I agree with 99.9% of her stances. That Patriot Act thing though really irks me. It’s unpatriotic.
Report Post »MontyRay
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:40am@10thamendment
I agree with your point on Newt, but I don’t think any of the candidates pass the purity test on constitutionalism. (I know I’m inviting the RP supporters with that comment…but I’m not discussing my opinions of RP in this comment). I also don’t pretend to believe that any of them are going to pass any purity test. I do think Gingrich has it in him to do what he did as Speaker. I think he has the capability of changing the trajectory of this Country to a positive one.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:52amMONEY BOMB at RonPaul2012 has passed $500,000.00
Report Post »Thank you, true American conservatives and independents, for donating to this champion of Liberty.
blue_sky
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:54amNEW! A game changer ad by Ron Paul just came out.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2ATkTYOHU
BSdetector
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:58amThe only winner in any of these ridiculous debates is the LIBERAL MEDIA who hosts them!
Report Post »I‘m thinking none of these people are fit to be president if they can’t figure out that letting their enemies control the narrative is a sure path to failure!!!
aafriend
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:14amCain- Firm, Presidential, Un Afraid, Non Confrontational.
Romney- Defensive just like Liberal Dem
Romney is your typical politician actor.
Report Post »im_a_free_man
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:19amAmericans are insane. Yes you are. For decades you keep voting and voting and look at what the people you voted for have done to the US. We are in more slavery now than ever in our history. And yet, you will vote for the same people again and again expecting different results. You are insane.
The truth is only one man is running that has and will obey the US constitution. And ONLY obedience to the Constitution will restore freedom and property rights and ultimately prosperity.
Go ahead, elect your Cain or Romney or Joe Blow. You will still have the same results that we have today. You are insane.
Report Post »duskerhu
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:20amTotally agree 10thAmendment !
Report Post »stillsmiling
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:21amNo she didn’t. She showed a side of herself that has never been shown before. Then afterward, she snuggled up to Wayne Newton. She’s a typical politician. Herman & Newt both have wisdom, not just words.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:35amHowever, she might just want to learn a ittle geography if she intends to become President and be in charge of Foreign Policy!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:50amThe big winner in last night’s debate? Obama.
Report Post »Brizz
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:51amBachmann, Perry, and Santorum need to pack their bags and get out of the way!
Report Post »SeanW
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:52amRon Paul is clearly the only individual up there that actually has a solid track record. He speaks from the heart with wisdom and intellect that is sadly missing from our political discourse. I know you don’t like him because he would make Israel stand on their own two feet. Again, as I have mentioned here, the single largest recipient of financial aid from the United States (pre-Iraq) is Israel with 6 BILLION dollars a year. We pay for their military and we pay for the aggression and hatred with which they treat any non-jew. You morons say they are our biggest ally, they are not an ally if we have to pay them to be so. Alliances indicate equality, and when we are giving the Israelis 6 billion a year (that we have to borrow in order to give) we do nothing but weaken ourselves. Let Israel apply to china for their own damned loans rather than us doing it for them.
Report Post »dwalt6187
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 11:05amThat is ALL she focused on…I think everyone can come to the common agreement obama SUCKS! We all know he needs to go. We need to know what she is going to do better than the other republican candidates
Report Post »trickball
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 11:22amBut she didn’t keep the focus on the questions that she was asked. For example, she was asked would military cuts be apart of her budget. She goes into some rant about supporting foerign add especially to our freinds, FOCUS Michelle, FOCUS!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 11:46amLiberals disguised as republican hopefuls, Huntsman, Perry and Romney arn’t conservatives at all. They are the democrat candidates running against Obama.
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:05pmFor you Herman Cainites out there, watch this and wake the He-l up!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2ATkTYOHU
Report Post »PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:38pmGingrich, Paul, Bachmann, Cain? Gingrich would slay obama in debates. If Paul would announce he’d pick John Bolton or Marco Rubio as VP, and offer all the others cabinet positions, he’d win the GOP/RNC nomination. I like Bachmann’s & Cain’s determination. I think we need them all to join in each of their best capacities to turn this huge Federal monster around and root out all the corruption….just follow the money. Maybe they should each face a job interviewer while hooked up to a lie detector and a body movement expert watching. They would have to answer all questions back to childhood and give examples of critical thinking and experiences all on camera.
Report Post »Beawalker
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:07pmMichele Bachmann continues to be the best candidate to turn the country around and defeat Obama.
Report Post »Biscuit Feed Bubba
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:24pmhttp://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Laffer-Cain-tax-plan/2011/10/19/id/414998?s=al&promo_code=D49D-1
Economist and former Reagan adviser Arthur Laffer says Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 tax plan is a good one.
“(The) plan was designed to be what economists call ‘static revenue neutral,’ which means that if people didn’t change what they do under his plan, total tax revenues would be the same as they are under our current tax code,” Laffer writes in The Wall Street Journal, adding that he believes that with the boost Cain’s plan would give to economic growth it would bring in even more revenue than expected.
“Once the dynamics take hold, many of those below the poverty line will find good jobs and thus will rise above the poverty line and start paying taxes,” says Laffer.
Report Post »jmanuola
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:47pmI love Michelle, but she’s turned out to be a one-trick pony.
Report Post »jmanuola
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:55pmVMAN, that is one of most illogical and ill-conceived attempts to bolster Ron Paul on the backs of lies, half-truths and utter BS about the others candidates that I’ve ever seen. It is buffoons like yourself who have actually almost guaranteed Ron Paul will NEVER get nominated. Instead of being convincing in your post, you do little more than show yourself to be ignorant and blinded by your hatred for anyone that doesn’t agree with you.
Report Post »Jennifer_D
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:01pmI thought she did a GREAT job focusing on Obama. After all; HE is who these candidates will have to run against as we move forward. I also liked Herman Cain! They both did a great job focusing on Obama’s failed policies.
Report Post »jmanuola
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:02pm10thAmendment
I actually don’t disagree with Paul on many of things he says. Though I think he is like 50 years too early or 100 years too late in his arguments. Even if he’s right about what we SHOULD be doing, we are not ready as a country to face the consequences of removing 950 military bases in foreign countries or thumbing our noses at countries like Israel or pointing a gun at the Federal Reserve at suggesting they leave our country if they know what’s good for them. That all sounds so very nice to the OWS people. But won’t solve any problems and will create a boat load more.
So Paul is out in my book. Cain is a refreshing candidate who has the gumption to be a good president or vice president. However, at such a vulnerable time in our world, it does scare me to have someone in the oval office who has no experience on the foreign fields.
My vote, at this point, is going to Newt. I have read his 21 Century Contract thoroughly and agree completely. I think he has the personality and experience and the plan to handle this country at this time. He certainly would wipe the floor with Obama in a debate.
Report Post »louise
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:23pmBlue,
Report Post »Great ad!!! All of his ads are good
DrFrost
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 3:37pm@JMAN
Newt has a lot of personal and political baggage and that is going to be a big detriment in a presidential campaign. Note that I‘m not saying he wouldn’t be a good president. Unfortunately for me, my favorite candidate was once again excluded from the debate: Gary Johnson.
Gary will remain my top pick because he’s the only one with a proven record of fiscally conservative EXECUTIVE leadership. I don’t know how any conservative who looks at his record can keep from loving this guy. I think he’s EXACTLY what we need at this point: someone who will come in and do his absolute best at limiting government and balancing the budget. And at this point in my life I put much MUCH more weight on what the candidates have actually done than anything they say.
My 2nd picks are still: Ron Paul (his foreign policy idea scare me though), Herman Cain (his lack of foreign policy experience scares me) and Newt (his baggage worries me…. but if he doesn’t get the nomination I hope whoever does is smart enough to pick him as a running mate).
I love Michelle but the MSM would crucify her (to them the only thing worse than a nonbeliever is a heretic) and I don‘t think she’d do well in debates with Obama.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 3:52pm@BLUE
That was an awesome message by Ron Paul. But I think most conservatives love what the man says on limiting government and limiting spending. It’s his foreign policy ideas that make us uncomfortable. One legitimate role of the US government is to protect us and that does, to some degree, mean that we need to take an active role in helping the world become more democratic, more capitilistic and more stable.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 4:02pm@ V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:29am
Michele lost when she voted for the Patriot Act Extension. Disqualified as unconstitutional.
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This forum is a poor format so I’m actually commenting on your entire post.
The Patriot Act is a Liberty stealing worthless Law. Anyone who supports it can’t have their head attached. (shakes head at my brother Allen West). Perry is definitely left of center, while Romney is center leftist. Newt is a smart guy on a lot of topics, and he can change the conversation on a dime and be fluent. I trust him to do what he says he will do, but don’t think his ideals turn toward the Constitution hard enough.
Cain did defend the FED, but I remember another Patriot who after having allowed the Central Bank 20 year charter to expire, eventually agreed (1814 after seeing the impossibility of the war of 1812 to finance) allowed the legislation to re-establish it. But only after Hamilton (who Madison viewed as anti Constitutional constructionist and active in usurping the rights of the people). I can’t use the lack of will to audit the FED control the extent of my view on the politics of the candidate, because a central bank is essential if a Nation is forced into war. They should be audited however by those who give it power.
I like both Cain, and Paul. The rest are washouts.
Report Post »robert
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 4:15pmThere’s no one in this field of Republicans that is a true social conservative.
If I were to select the lesser of all the evils presented, I’d have to go with Gingrich. He’s the smartest one running, and, as Sarah Palin said, he would trounce Obama in a debate. I like Herman Cain as a person, but he’s not fast enough on his feet to go up against an experienced debater.
My choice, however, of ALL Republicans is Pat Buchanan. He’s the only one who would return this country to a mostly white, Christian nation, and he’s even smarter than Newt. It’s a shame he botched his chance to make a difference when he listened to the Karl Rove types and selected a running mate strictly on the basis of color. With Ron Paul or a Ron Paul look-a-like as VP, he had an excellent chance of winning.
The best case scenario of this election is someone who will take us on a slower road to Hell. The US empire is slowly sinking in the West.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 5:04pm@Misty
Excellent point.
Report Post »Captainshays
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 5:08pmFor all those who think Herman Cain knows that he’s talking about relative to economic issues just watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUwDg1LLk6g&feature=player_embedded
The guy is fast being exposed as a fraud. First it was Bachmann, then it was Pawlenty, then it was Perry, next it will be Cain. Fruit flavors of the day not lasting long in the sun. Ron Paul consistent, principled, honest, right
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 6:04pmLet’s be very careful here…..the most important thing for this country is that Obama must go in 2012, no matter who is running against him.
Report Post »Make no mistake, the left will rally behind Obama, the democrats will mostly solidify behind him. The senate will go Republican and the house will remain Republican but with Obama in office, he’ll veto every repeal and law that comes from congress, including repeals. No matter who the GOP candidate is they’ve made it clear, Obamacare and Dodd/Frank will be repealed as first order of business. Trust me when I say that Dodd/Frank is hurting lending, business and jobs as is Obamacare. Once they’re repealed..watch the country start to move again..hiring, growing, investing. Please….this coming election is one of the most important in this nation’s history…don’t let ideological purism keep you home or begrudge a candidate enough not to vote. Just get Obama out and we can clean up any RINO’s later just like we have started to do in the house. Be smart, be strategic NOTHING gets accomplished with Obama still in the white house and four more years of leftist upheaval and stealth policy will take place.
oneshiner
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 7:26pmCain: not as strong as he has been. Didn‘t like Romney’s slap about bushel of apples & oranges.
Report Post »Perry: brought up good question, but needs to learn when to shut his mouth
Romney: He also needs to shut his mouth and stop arguing.
These two left such a bad taste in my mouth, I‘m not sure I’d vote for either of them. Too childish
Paul: Always speaks my language, except, I want a Prez who will defend our Country.
Newt: Always on target. Smart man, understands how it works, perhaps too much? Cronyism?
Michelle: Talks a good talk, stays on subject. A couple of underhanded digs I didn’t like.
Santorium:Hmmm? it’s prob. me not him, but I hated his choice of music on Fri. radio shows.
Dam, who will fill the bill. Not sure I’m really happy with any except Cain/Newt.
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 7:54pm@jmanuola,
“Even if he’s right about what we SHOULD be doing, we are not ready as a country to face the consequences of removing 950 military bases in foreign countries …”
What do you think the consequences would be for removing our bases from other countries?
“… or thumbing our noses at countries like Israel …”
Not giving something to someone to whom it doesn’t belong is NOT thumbing our noses at them.
“… or pointing a gun at the Federal Reserve at suggesting they leave our country if they know what’s good for them.”
Please learn Austrian Economics, because it is the Federal Reserve that is responsible for most of our economic problems.
See here.
Smashing Myths and Restoring Sound Money | Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzExlEsIKk
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 8:09pm@DrFrost,
“It’s his foreign policy ideas that make us uncomfortable. One legitimate role of the US government is to protect us and that does, to some degree, mean that we need to take an active role in helping the world become more democratic, more capitilistic and more stable.”
It has never been Constitutional for the United States to take an active role in helping the world become more democratic, more capitalistic, or more stable.
One country gets to tell another country how to live? Are you insane?
As for spreading democracy, we are NOT a democracy. Our Founders SPECIFICALLY denounced democracy. We are a constitutional republic.
See here.
Federalist Papers #14
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa14.htm
“The error which limits republican government to a narrow district has been unfolded and refuted in preceding papers. I remark here only that it seems to owe its rise and prevalence chiefly to the confounding of a republic with a democracy, applying to the former reasonings drawn from the nature of the latter. …
“… Under the confusion of names, it has been an easy task to transfer to a republic observations applicable to a democracy only; and among others, the observation that it can never be established but among a small number of people, living within a small compass of territory.”
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 8:53pmI know Ron Paul’s little brother here in Texas. I have met Ron Paul and spoken with him on a few occasions, and have communication with him.
Report Post »He is as down to Earth of a man that you will ever meet. So is his family.
I have never been a political junkie, I’ve been paying CLOSE attention since at least 1998. Never really wanted to involve myself in this mess.
I can tell you that THIS IS RON PAUL’S DESTINY.
He was BORN TO RUN.
Raised on a dairy farm, worked his ass off as a kid.
Track star in high school. Almost beat the state record by.02 seconds.
Became a doctor because he wanted to help people, not for the money. (BIG CLUE THERE)
Was reading economics books as a doctor, waiting for women to go into labor, as there was/is a lot of downtime in this activity.
Got INTO politics when Nixon took us off the gold standard. He KNEW THEN THAT WE WERE IN DEEP ….STUFF
Has been WARNING US for OVER 25YEARS, that this was going to happen, and was LAUGHED AT.
Many times he sat alone in the cafeteria, when the cool kids were doing their thing. Many times was he the LONE NO VOTE when it was UNCONSTITUTIONAL. “Dr. NO”
He left more integrity in the TOILET than all of these other clowns COMBINED could muster.
He has more support from the military THAN ALL OF THE CANDIDATES COMBINED INCLUDING OHMAMMA. Doubled his support from Q2 to Q3 from the military. Most support from Independents and recovering dems and Neo cons.
HIS MIDDLE FREAKIN’ NAME IS “EARNEST” What more could yo
b.mclane
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 12:37amBachman‘s attack on Cain’s 999 plan was underhanded. As a Congresswoman she knows ONLY Federal taxes are contolled by Washington. Nobody’s plan including current laws can alter State taxes. Secondly, she also knows Cain has built in a 2/3 Majority vote needed to raise the rate above 9%. She worries me talking off her cuff like this.Like her claim that the HPV virus caused someone’s daughter to be mentally retarded, sadly, she is not honest.
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 2:51amThe Republican Party doesn’t like their socialism, but likes our socialism. Why does the Republican Party believe that they can take money from tax payers and redistribute it to other nations (allies)? Answer: Because they are our allies? Yet gnash their teeth at redistribution with the word WELFARE attached to it.
So Democrat socialism is bad, Republican socialism is good.
My fellow Republicans really need to be consistent in their philosophy.
Report Post »ENDOFSANITY
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 6:40amRon Paul wins again! He’s asking the right questions ans stands for individual liberty!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:57amMichelle Bachmann is a phony. She is self-serving, sickeningly ambitious, a user and then totally inept. She bragged two days ago about being int he Same Committee as Barney Frank and she “opposed” his efforts to ruin our economy (force the banks to make sub-prime loans) but she wasn’t smart enough to blow the whistle. She wasn’t able to stop him. She wasn’t able to go to other people and let them know that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were ripping off the American Taxpayer, the head of Fannie Mae (and Barney’s lover in Freddie Mac) were scoffing up Millions, under her powdered nose and she said nothing, did nothing but she did try to use it later to make herself seem important. She came out west in 2009 and attempted to go around from Tea Party gathering to Tea Party gathering to pretend she was somehow in charge of that organic operation…then she went back to DC and made a lot of TV-covered speeches and “brought the Tea Party into Congress”…except the TEA PARTY never wanted to be INSIDE, but she wanted to control it. And then, woman to woman/mother to mother, I would never describe ANY children I was lucky enough to raise as “MY FOSTER KIDS” – how thoughtless…especially when we heard that some of them were only in her home 3 days…I’m sure that she thought her looks could carry her through, but we see through her. WE do not need another self-ambitious politician. We need a Patriot. She’s not it.
Report Post »VintageAmerican
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:34am@Politiciansrcrooks,
Report Post »We are in massive wars now. Uganda is the next place on earth that Obama must rid of all christians, by hook or by crook.
Spero
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:37pmMichelle is clueless
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:01pmHerman Cain was very good tonight. Ron Paul has been superb for 30 years, consistently. That is what we need.
The democrats made a terrible mistake voting for a black man *because* he is black. Republicans could make the same mistake for the same reason. Either way, it is racist voting.
I refuse to be a racist, and that means voting for the best man, regardless of his color. Even if it matches my own.
Cain would make a great treasury secretary under Paul. And we will all enjoy not paying taxes every year, too. Think of the prosperity when America keeps 20% of what it earns!
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:13pmToo much in the bag for Ron Paul. Not right on some of the issues, and may not be electable.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:25pmStop saying he’s not electable when he has over a million followers
Report Post »Mettag
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:39pmthere are 300 million people in this country, gonna take more then a million to win an election. Besides he has ran what 5 times and never came close. WHat makes you think he has a prayer this time?
As much as I don’t like to admit it, but Romney is really our only chance to beat Obama. Everyone else is to conservative to win the moderates and indapendants. But they will vote for Romney because he is more moderate, plus the tea party conservatives will still vote for him since he isn’t Obama
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:03amtalk about Ron Paul after tomorrows [BLACK THIS OUT] money bomb and tell us how unelectable he is… you do know that he’s been elected over and over again for 30+ years into congress right?… to say he is “unelectable” when he is consistently elected is absurd… more active duty military people donate to Ron than all the other candidates combined. more have gave to Ron than their current commander… the people protecting our country and fighting these wars want Ron Paul… you figure it out…
Report Post »Gooch
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:08amCain would be a huge mistake for treasury, he supported TARP, wasn’t sure which administration passed TARP(He blamed Obama for TARP, Bush passed TARP as part of his plan to “abandon the free market system to save it” non-sense.), he missed the housing bubble, and thinks Alan Greenspan was a good Fed Chairman. Cain said the economy was just a victim of bad press until Mid 2008. After the Housing collapse had happened. Cain is not the guy we need as president. Do your research on Cain, there is plenty out there that shows he is in over his head. Also, do your research on Paul, he saw all these problems coming and warned us, and a lot of people just laughed. Not laughing now.
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:16amPaul isn’t “electable”? Well, not as long as you keep saying that. If you vote for people based on their “electability”, you end up with only a couple decent Presidents in 90 years. Just look at history. We got since Coolidge, based entirely on “electability” (a nice term for charisma and media attention, don’t you think), 4 years of Hoover destroying our economy, 12 years of FDR keeping it in the tank, Truman getting us involved in Korea, and finally Eisenhower – a decent President. Then, we got JFK, a big supporter of the welfare state and Vietnam, followed by LBJ, with his Great Society. Nixon started the EPA and used price and wage controls, as well as ended the gold standard so he could print more money for ballooning deficits. Ford wasn’t elected as President, so the argument doesn’t apply there either way. But then we got Carter, because he was superbly electable. And wrecked the economy. Then Reagan was the most electable, and actually helped some – although he couldn’t control deficits, either. Now we have two “electable” Presidents that actually did well – and it only took 52 years. Oh, but it got worse after Reagan, as HW, Clinton, W, and Obama have all successively worsened the protection of American liberty and the Constitution. All together, we have 19% of the time with good presidents since the Roaring Twenties. You still want “electable”? Go ahead, but know that sacrificing principle for personality will result in a destruction of
Report Post »Moonepie
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:22amWhat the heck does “not electable” mean?!!! Like is there some force field that’s going to prevent people from marking his name on the ballot? Does he not have the right ‘look?” Is that what that means? Does he not have the manly man stance while standing at the podium?! Like what?! Is his hair too white? Is he too old? Is he maybe too humble?
Report Post »Moonepie
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:24amGooch is right. Too many inconsistencies with Cain.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:06amYea Paul was so great over the last 30 yrs he has put his tail on the line for what he believes….. NOT.
What has he truly done aside from barking away on the House floor and sponsoring this bill and that bill? Ive seen politicians as passionate as Paul get arrested for what they believe. Curious when did Paul organize a walkout, sit-in, govt shutdown with other like minded politicians about our debt, spending and the corruption in DC? When did Paul organize a Congressional delegation to physically go to the Feds main office and demand the books be open!? When did he organize a Congressional delegation to go to Ft. Knox demanding to see our nations gold supply? When, WHEN has he actually lifted a finger, broke the rules, protocol for what he believes in and taken physical action? NEVER
Report Post »Yea he is so great for this nation… phhhhhh! You RP followers are so critical of the other candidates who run their mouths etc but they are NO different than Paul. He just wears the Constitution on his sleeve to as his schtick! Attack me, flame me all you want but facts are facts Paul is all talk and in his 30yrs he never took it to the next level for everything he is so passionate about to get you to vote for him! Rp followers say we “are all being fooled and are sheep!” Yea well so are you this guy never lifted a finger. Proposing bills on the floor is NOTHING, for someone you prop up as a savior!
Alucard
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:16amPaul is not my first choice and some of the Paul supporters drive me up a wall sometimes, but I hate the “not electable” excuse. It is the very reason we are left with options of the lesser of two evils. At this point anyone of the GOP candidates are better than BO.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:17amMettag
Report Post »Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:39pm
there are 300 million people in this country, gonna take more then a million to win an election. Besides he has ran what 5 times and never came close. WHat makes you think he has a prayer this time?
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RP has had 30 years at this, so what has been his biggest accomplishments all these years? And since he’s a Congressman, a longtime one at that, why doesn‘t he go after Obama’s eligibility issue if he’s so darned great?????
We don’t need another politician. Those are the ones that get us in all sorts of trouble. Cains best attribute as far as I’m concerned….. he’s NOT a politician!
thepatriotdave
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:26amI don’t care if you love Ron Paul or not, HE CANNOT BEAT OBAMA! And that alone is reason enough for me to avoid him at all costs. And I will.
Report Post »People had better swallow their pride one last time because our main goal this election is to be rid of Obama and throw him out of the People’s House. Once he’s gone we can get back to fixing the GOP with a more Conservative agenda. You know… for the good of America for a change.
chfields62
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:31amI see the Paul loons are out tonight…..They are just as looney as he is, if not worse……Some of his economic views are dead on, but his foreign policy is plain looney…..saying Iran has a “right’ to a nuke? That he won’t support or protect our allies? That makes him even worse than Obama…..
Winning 1 district does not make him an electable candidate…He has his small following, but he will never win the hearts and minds of the intelligent voters.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:51amI meant to say a million followers on random sites
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:09am@chfields62 We’re not a Global Communist Government and Police Force that dictates to other Nations what they can and can’t do within their own borders. Ron Paul said that if Israel feels threatened by Iran that they should go right ahead and take care of them. And that if they are in need of aid and ask for help that he would not decline. He actually respects Israel’s independence and sovereignty. He understands that our subsidies and meddling in the Middle East keeps Israel from making its own decisions. Israel knows what’s best for itself. I think we should trust Israel and stop thinking we know better than Israel. Ron Paul supported Israel when they bombed Iraq’s facilities, when many others didn’t. He wrote a constitutional Letter of Marque to go after Bin Laden and his minions. He co-sponsored a bill to go into Afganishtan to capture those responsible for terrorist attacks, like Al Qaeda. He urged Congress and the federal administration to go into Pakistan to get Bin Laden, when most other officials doubted he was even there. He is in favor of Pilots being armed and ready for defense, and that we should profile and investigate real suspects in an airport. He is in favor of stopping all foreign aid, and thus stop funding Israel’s enemies. Israel is one of the greatest powers in the Middle East right now. They know about a thing or two about fighting against several enemies all at once. Of course we got their backs.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:10amI recommend that people take a look at Paul’s Plan on his site. Whether you disagree or agree with the guy on some things, one thing is for certain, his Plan makes the most sense concerning huge spending cuts, ending welfare programs, not raising taxes, not creating new taxes, ending certain federal agencies and departments (Education, EPA, Energy, etc), slashing funds for other bureaucracies (FDA, etc), limiting the size of the federal workfoce, giving some things back to the States to take care of, and many other TEA Party advocated positions. One should look at his stance of cutting foreign subsidies wihtin context. He’s trying to save our economy and keep the US from going bankrupt. You can’t deny the effectiveness of the plan to help in those goals. Rush also said that Paul is the only candidate that has proposed such a plan, which we Conservatives have been demanding for years now. Definately something interesting to look at, no matter your candidate of choice.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:15am@PatriotDave
Report Post »I have been saying that for months now. He cannot beat the machine behind Obama and these ppl who support RP will not accept that. They forget about the millions he has in his campaign the millions on its way from Soros. They forget about the countless number of uninformed, uneducated, unengaged zombie army that will be out in droves come election day. For evey 1 Paul voter there are 5-10 “sleeper” voters for Obama. These are people completely off the charts, polls whaterver census one has for him. Folks better wake up and understand how important this election is. We cannot play games with RP and his obamapaulbots. This guy is nitroglycerin for the country… but you all go right ahead and psh him for the nomination. When he loses we all will know exactly who to blame before this Republic is set a blaze by BHO…. You think after he gets a second term he is going to be Mr. Niceguy! Watch and see the punishment that will come our way if he gets re-elected, he will remember all of this!
colt1860
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 3:40amRon Paul was head to head with Obama by many polls and news media polls. He had the most support from independents also. He also is stealing votes away from Obama by convincing disgruntled democrats to vote for him. He has the best chance against Obama. Why do you think the mainstream media is trying to ignore him and slander him? They know he would take the most votes away from Obama.
newsmax.com/TheWire/Harris-poll-Romney-RonPaul/2011/09/27/id/412375
businesswire.com/news/home/20110721006488/en/Ron-Paul-Polls-Head-Head-Obama
latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/ron-paul-polls-just-4-points-below-obama-if-the-two-ran-head-to-head.html
ronpaul2012.com/2011/07/21/ron-paul-polls-well-in-head-to-head-versus-obama/
csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0823/Has-Ron-Paul-become-electable
reuters.com/article/2011/08/22/idUS202725+22-Aug-2011+BW20110822
finance.yahoo.com/news/Ron-Paul-Bests-Obama-in-bw-3821734650.html?x=0
endthefedusa.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ron-paul-wins-independent?xg_source=activity
whiteoutpress.com/articles/wach/ron-paul-wins-independent-voters-poll378/
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 4:23amFunny how one day, it’s, “Obama can’t win again“ or ”even my dog can beat Obama”, and it’s reasonable, and the next day, it’s, “Paul’s not electable”. Is a Constitutional Conservative not electable in America anymore? I thought Bachman had already said, this come election Obama is out, for sure. Did not Romney say, any one of these Candidates would much better than Obama, and that Obama doesn’t have good chance of being elected? Come on guys. If your going to state your opinions and not facts, at least stay consistent and base them on reasonable claims. If your going to state your opinion and no facts, atleast don’t pertend they are facts. Where is the proof and evidence? I want a direct quote or article from some reputable and credible source stating that Paul is not electable in a match against Obama or that he is not electable in a general election. Where is it?
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 5:34am@savingtherepublic
So you believe the key to a good leader is the ability to “Take it to the next level” & ignore the rule of law? You are making this too easy. So what you are saying is that you would like the next POTUS to start more wars without congressional approval? Or maybe better yet he could disband congress permanently & totally ignore the constitution. What is wrong with you? Introducing bills & doing & standing for what one says & believes in is nothing? By that premise your own saving the republic company means & stands for nothing. Are your Iphone covers & products even made in the USA? All of you anti Dr. Paul folks can do is throw insults & lies because you can’t back it up with anything. Trying to tear down a good man for 30 years at the fight you haven’t been in for 30 months is pathetic at best. If insults are all you can understand, then I will stoop down so you can hear me this one time: How do you pick your candidate? Do you just walk around a room in opposing directions with the other blazers & randomly bounce off one another into the candidate of the week? Is Cain still able with his three large one topping pizzas for $9 a piece, or was that one Pizza you pay for three times? What right do you have to envoke the original patriots in your logo? Oh that’s right they risked everything to give it to you, & you in turn use it to spit on the ideals they would have & did give their lives for.
Give me Liberty or give me Death!
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012!
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 6:35am@Cat
If we put Romney, Perry, or Cain up against Obama, we wil lose. Writing is on the wall and as clear as day. All three supported the bailouts, support wall street, and are looked at as Establishment. Obama will mop the floor with them thru exposing their contradicttions flip flops and ties to big money. We will lose even with Ron Paul not running 3rd party. If you are honest you know this is true. I agree the establishment big money is trying to maniupulate the election by putting up Romney, Perry or Cain because they know Obama can beat them. Has nothing to do with Ron Paul running 3rd party.
@Sissy
Report Post »Your name says it all. Our military is quite aware of Ron Paul’s message and is the reason they support him so much. Maybe our military knows more then you do sitting on the sidelines. Iran is only a threat if we attack them. Saudi and Israel would take Iran out if we would let them. We have been stalling them for about 8 years now. Wake up!
HADEN0UGH
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:24amRon isn‘t electable because he thinks it’s ok for Iran to have nukes. 95% if America thinks that is just insane.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:07amHere are some reasons Ron Paul isn’t electable.
Raising awareness on issues is not passing legislation on them.
Report Post »He believes Iran should have Nukes
He believes there should not be any ILLEGAL DRUGS. Hippies would love him.
He is an Isolationist.
He has authored lots of bills but has been unsuccessful at getting any of them passed. Evidently he doesn’t play well with others.
stillsmiling
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:26amRon Paul has some very good ideas, but I could never vote for him for president because of his foreign policy ideas. We have enemies who aren’t willing to be our friends. They want to destroy us. He would be a good secretary of the treasury.
Report Post »tbb
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:47amWhat is it with all of you RP supporters and your bad grammer? I like RP but I wouldn’t vote for him. Most of his domestic policies are OK but his foreign ones are not well thought out. Romney and Perry are so progressive that only one a progressive would vote for them. Gingrich has some really good ideas but I believe that he would roll over to the lobbiests. Michelle just hasn’t quite got the stick-to-it-ness that is needed. Santorum just seems to be whiney and Obama would wipe the floor with him in a debate. Cain has said some stupid things but he owns up to them and tries to make things better. I don’t agree with all of his policies either but I agree with a great deal more with him then with any of the other candidates. Saying all of that, any of them, except Romney or Perry, would be better than Obama.
Report Post »GallopinggLibertarian
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:48am@Mettag Wake up to the fact that WE control whether a Democrat gets sworn in 2012 because as it stands right now (and we are not even into the primary States yet) Ron Paul supporters are 15%+ percent of the GOP voting block. We never vote the party line…those days are over. Every time Paul speaks that number grows.
Now that that is established how are you going to get any of the other establishment hacks to beat Obama? Answer: It’s not possible. You do not have the numbers.
Vote Ron Paul or suffer the complete collapse of the dollar, a short term of starvation and civil war and then your untimely death and liberty disappearing into the dustbin of history.
Ron Paul 2012 Or Bust (Literally)
Read Ron Pauls books and see why he is different than any other candidate and why we are so adamant in our support for him…
http://www.ronpaul.com/books/
Report Post »Liberty Defined (2011)
End the Fed (2009)
The Revolution: A Manifesto (2008)
Pillars of Prosperity (2008) – Free PDF
A Foreign Policy of Freedom: Peace, Commerce, and Honest Friendship (2007)
Freedom Under Siege: The U.S. Constitution After 200 Years (1987) – Free PDF
Mises and Austrian Economics: A Personal View (1984) – Free PDF
The Case For Gold (1982) – Free PDF
SimpleTruths
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:14pm@POLITICIANSRCROOKS
Report Post »A million followers in a a country of a over 130 million voters is a spit in the ocean. That equates to less than 1%.
Itchee Dryback
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:05pmRon Paul is a loon imo. He is just as obsessed with the “righteousness” of his personal beliefs as a religious fanatic is of theirs. They are both blinded by their own “light”…its dilated their pupils and caused all they see to appear as black and white shapes that they can interpret at will.
Report Post »jmanuola
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:50pmCain handled the pressure okay. His 999 plan has some serious flaws but Newt got it right when he said at least Cain is making a bold attempt to fix the problems. The real weakness of 999 is no so much the number crunching…but the devastation his plan would have on the new construction industry, the housing industry, the accounting industry and charitable organizations.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 5:38pm@HADENOUGH We’re not a Global Communist Government and Police Force that dictates to other Nations what they can and can’t do within their own borders. Who are we to determine the Rights of other Nations? Ron Paul said that if Israel feels threatened by Iran that they should go right ahead and take care of them. And that if they are in need of aid and ask for help that he would not decline. He actually respects Israel’s independence and sovereignty. He understands that our subsidies and meddling in the Middle East keeps Israel from making its own decisions. Israel knows what’s best for itself. I think we should trust Israel and stop thinking we know better than Israel. Ron Paul supported Israel when they bombed Iraq’s facilities, when many others didn’t. He wrote a constitutional Letter of Marque to go after Bin Laden and his minions. He co-sponsored a bill to go into Afganishtan to capture those responsible for terrorist attacks, like Al Qaeda. He urged Congress and the federal administration to go into Pakistan to get Bin Laden, when most other officials doubted he was even there. He is in favor of Pilots being armed and ready for defense, and that we should profile and investigate real suspects in an airport. He is in favor of stopping all foreign aid, and thus stop funding Israel’s enemies. Israel is one of the greatest powers in the Middle East right now. They know about a thing or two about fighting against several enemies all at once. Of course we got the
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 5:49pm* Of course we got their back.
Report Post »reform
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:33pmIf you really want to know what is the matter with our economy and the world I dare you to watch the money Masters.com really big wake up call. For this reason and this reason only do I support Ron Paul. I am aware of Newt Gingrich’s past and the baggage that he had but I do believe the marriage to Calista has changed the man in all the books that he writes in the speeches that he gives he does love America he may have been on the Council foreign relations at one time but no recent evidence is showing him to to belong. Bad marriages can do a lot to good people I know that’s not an excuse but it does happen.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:58pmI’ve had my picks being Cain, Paul, Gingrich, Bachman in that order. I continue to have Cain as the head of my choice options right now, especially after taking a few hours over the past few days to drink the 9-9-9 plan. But the separation from Paul isn’t much. The other “would be” candidates, Romney and Perry aren’t conservatives at all. They might have affiliations to the GOP but they are definitely not Republican (as in 4th Amendment Art. IV) in philosophy.
Cain and Paul to me represent holding up the Stars on the banner of the Union (perhaps Michele and Gingrich too). It’s odd, some people hold Pauls non interventionist foreign policy as a negative. I think that’s what makes him the strongest true Republican candidate.
Report Post »mattsanz
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:14pmDo you think China has a strong defense? How many bases do they have around the world? Will any Counrty attempt to attack China? How many bases does China have around the world…I’m sure Cain will know what to do, make you feel all safe inside.
Report Post »JeffersonPaul
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:01pmCain just says what he is told to say. Always backtracks on everything. Had no clue on foreign policy and the 999 plan is flawed (need to repeal the 16th first). Romney is a big government Progressive Republican. Perry voted for J.Carter and backed Gore, not to mentioned a mandate to vaccinate all girls in his state. Bachmann supported the patriot act. Newt, Paul and Santorum are the only one that can beat Obama, and Paul is the most prepared.
Report Post »ozkmtnrbl
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:20pmIm sure there are problems with 999,but the 16th has to be repealed by the states, not the president, and it is a little farfetched to suggest that it should be repealed first, then a new system created to replace our current one. That is the argument that will keep us where we are forever. Cain, while flawed, is the only candidate with the guts to suggest a fix for the tax code. Bravo for that, at least.
Report Post »JeffersonPaul
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:28pmLook at Pauls Plan, it is much Better!!! http://c3244172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/RestoreAmericaPlan.pdf
Report Post »TulsaYeeHaw
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:44pmSanatorum couldn’t beat obama at anything except a teeth bleeching contest.
Report Post »JeffersonPaul
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:56pmlol Tulsa, you might be right ;-) More reason to vote for Paul
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:19amI agree, The only real candidate for me is Ron Paul.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:11amWhy am I getting email from the Herman Cain campaign? I’ve never signed up to receive any of his literature. Where did they get my email address?
Report Post »joeapp24
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 4:04pmI agree with almost everything you just said. haha Santorum is the only true conservative(reagan like) candidate running. Yea he gets a little whiney when they don’t ask him questions, but thats fine. I love Ron Paul, except for his foreign policy. If we ignore the the problem it won’t go away. Iran is a a huge threat. If Santorum doesn’t win, someone should make him Sec. of State.
Report Post »trickball
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:59pmI thought it was interesting that the idea of the individual mandate originated with Speaker Gingrich.
Report Post »buh-bye libs
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:42am@ Trickball,
FINALLY! Sombody gets it! Newt is the ONLY one who can crush Odumbazz in ANY form of debate. This is not for President of the dam Glee Club. This is for the REAL World! All the marbles! Game over. Romney is a RINO, Perry is …well….Perry….Dr Paul is BRILLIANT and would serve well as Chief auditor and dismantler of the Fed..But WOW! Sometimes he’s in FAAAARRRRRR out left field….Bachman……Smart, likeable lady…not her time yet. Maybe Sec of Health and Human Services to kill Obummer Care. Mr. Cain, I hope you will be Newt’s VP to get some foreign relations experience, because we’ll need you in 8 years!
My fellow Americans. The Chicago Thug Machine is growing it’s 2nd set of legs…Don’t we NEED the smartest guy in the room to defeat him? It’s gonna be dirty as you can see from the Bus “Jobs” tour…Blame, Blame, Blame……..
NEWT/CAIN 2012
Report Post »StandUp4U
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:15amI agree.
Newt is obviously the SMARTEST, most informed, even tempered, and presidential candidate io the running. True, he has baggage (most notably the global warming thing) but think he would absolutely obliterate Obama on issues, hands down, EVERY time–I secretly would love to see him “educate” Professor Obama on the Constitution on a national stage.
He DOES need to explain his views on Cap and Tax, though before I go all in.
Not to disrespect anyone else on the stage but Newt is definitely the grown up in the room. Has not resorted to bickering or cat-fighting (Romney-Perry) like other candidates. Come on Perry, no need to rehash a topic that was “put to rest” during the last campaign. Romney, I don’t trust you. A leader should lead based on your convictions, not polls.
Bachman: like her for a cabinet posiiton.
I like Herman Cain as VP. Big fan–he is gutsy and a non-politician. On the other hand, he would be better if he had some degree of “education” in the ways of government/foreign policy. Ron Paul–also smart, but too extreme on foreign policy and wants to cut defense NOW? I can’t see putting him in office for 4 years much less 8.
Report Post »Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:39am@buh bye libs
Report Post »You got it. Once all the emotional crap settles down, the smartest guy in the room, is the one who kept his word and ran the contract with America. Don’t know what happened in his marriage, but not for me to judge. He would kill PBO in a debate. Love to see Cain as his VP.
reform
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:23pmHere’s the problem that most are missing the president is the head of his party whether it is the Democratic or the Republican. So the blame does not totally lie with the president but of the bodies that make up our Congress that make up our laws. So in order to change this country we have to put people in Congress that back the Constitution, as we‘ve seen with the Democrats in the first part of the president’s term. So if you have a majority that believe in the Constitution that we put their that’s when we get the country back on solid ground. And when you have enough in the Senate and the House to change the debate terms then we the people win, as the house a representative writes the laws and the Senate at the amendments to the bills and the president vetoes it if he doesn‘t agree but if there is a majority in the House and Senate that can override his veto then it’s irrelevant. Now we have all these liberal media outlets conducting the debates and they’re laughing behind our backs, and there still is 12 more to go. I say answer the question each and every one and no going back to any other candidate to rebut it next question MoveOn, oh how the Republicans don‘t see how they’re being set up by the liberals fools. This just goes to show us where our conservative voice really is.
Report Post »coopchase2
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:56pmPerry calls Cain “brother” twice, Romney says he fired his illegal lawn mowers because he was running for office and it would look bad, and most of them spent the night in a ******* match. Boy, its hard to make Anderson Cooper look good, but I think they pulled it off.
What an embarrassing night!
Report Post »TunaBlue
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:11pmThey were co-opted, again. Bad form, bad showing.
Report Post »Logic77
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:55pmHerman Cain 2012! No RINO’s allowed, on the Cain train!!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:01pmHerman is a RINO. He nearly had me fooled.
He was the head of the Federal Reserve of Kansas City.
Check these out !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UqcY8lGUUE
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:11pmCain got killed in this debate, what were you watching>?
Report Post »Logic77
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:14pmCain 2012!!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:18pmIf you are not a Jacksonian, willing to cause a Depression alike in 1837, then Cain is great!
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:32pmCain peaked tonight.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 3:48amCain is a RINO, and not a very good business man, either. Why no one is vetting his Godfather days is pathetic so let me clue you in.
Report Post »Pillsbury bought Godfather’s Pizza in 1985 for nearly $400million. They put Cain in charge. By 1988, they were ready to sell. That’s all you really need to know. Had Cain been able to turn Godfather’s around and make it really profitable, Pillsbury would not have sold it.
That’s the bottom line. And the fact that Cain won’t release the p&l from the years he was in charge of the pizza joint should also be a concern. We already have someone in the White House who is very protective of his past and keeps everything secret, do we really need someone who will do the same?
Ookspay
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:55pmThe Paulbots are burning up their back arrow while re-voting for Paul over and over and over, LOL.
Report Post »Duck and cover
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:58pmkeep telling yourself that
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:01pm1 vote per IP address.
Report Post »xoke
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:01pmI don’t have to tell myself that…his “votes” just went from 305 to over 500 in about 20 minutes. All you Paulistas should realize that your silliness in these regards turns more and more people away from Paul everyday. I like Paul, on a ton of things…but all you moonbat Paulistas make it really hard to continue liking the guy.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:02pmShouldn’t you be back down in Zucotti Park by now?
Report Post »cadmstr01
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:03pmYeah, they are!
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:03pm“Thank you, we have already counted your vote.”
What part of that don’t you understand, moron?
circleDwagons
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:06pmpaul did a good job tonight. there is much there to like. like cutting government. i migh be wearing a tin hat next week Cain 2012
Report Post »ThoreauHD
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:10pmI’m not a Paulbot, but I voted for Paul. So you can blame me for voting for the guy that actually does what he says instead of feeds you what you want to hear, and does the opposite.
Report Post »CoSkiTeacher
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:11pmHappens every time, the same 50 Paulbots.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:12pmhow bout you who say we paulies are voting more then once send Merideth an email and ask her.
You can only vote once. So suck it up and stop trying to slander and discredit like little kids. If your candidate isn’t reaching people maybe it is because his/her message sucks. Think about that.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:12pmyou cannot vote twice. You people sound so desperate of lying when Paul wins. Its sad. I pitty you people
Report Post »southernORcobra
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:13pmRight like how he complains about pork spending then sneaks it into bills and votes against it because he knows it’s gonna pass anyway?
Report Post »TulsaTodd
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:14pm@SECESSIONISTA~ It doesn’t say that at all. I was just able to vote 39 times for Rick Santorum. He now has 39 votes. LOL!
Report Post »Caunotaucarius
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:19pmExcept that every IP address can only vote once. Ooops, maybe one should check what he says against the facts before he spouts absurdities.
Report Post »Duck and cover
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:24pmI tried it, lets me vote but they dont appear in the count for santorum. so i got one vote for paul
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:29pm@Tulsa Todd
Quit lying and making us Okies look bad. How bout you try and vote again and then read the top of the form that says “We already counted your vote”. Don’t be such a hater
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:32pm@OOKSPAY
I guess Rush Limbaugh is a “Paulbot” Now.
You are an Idiot, BTW !!!! Not for being a politically Uneducated individual, but because you were the only one to Laugh at yourself. Pathetic !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcTYUwCbslE
Report Post »Impuri7y
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:45pmRon paul 2012!
Report Post »LibertyJ
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:58pmDr. Paul had over 100,000 individuals donate to his campaign last quarter. How many did your candidate have?
Report Post »Moonepie
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:11amWell, I don’t know about everyone else; but I voted once. Ron Paul and his people do a very good job at directing people to all the polls to vote. If you have him on your Facebook page, he gives you the links to all the polls. So, if the other candidates are not doing that, then their ‘fans’ may not know where to go to vote for their candidates. So, it may not be that the people are voting a trillion times at the same poll; but simply that the other candidates are not as successful in directing people to the polls. I don’t think Paul requires people to vote for him over and over again to win the polls. He actually has a huge following. It would really not serve any purpose for any of us to cheat on these polls.
Report Post »DrWho
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:37amSorry, i only voted once. I don’t live in Chicago
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 11:50amAs I have mentioned before and is proven here on my post, the main thing I dislike about Ron Paul is his supporters. Conspiracy freaks and one issue zombies. Maybe my computer is controlled by the CFR or someone more sinister, but I voted several times and was not notified any differently.
Report Post »kf4omc
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:50pmDONT BACK DOWN CAIN!!!!! PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Hold to your guns and we will stick with you!!
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:13amThe big problem with Cain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:49pmIt’s hard to answer this because it depends on what you are looking at.
Who seemed the most unflapable despite massive attacks? Romney. He held his ground well.
Who came out the victor most when under attack? Cain. I think he suffered the fewest blows. Gingrich really landed one on Romney over Romneycare while his “critique” of Cain’s 999 was as much mixed with praise for its boldness.
Who scored the best points? As always, Newt.
So, take Newt out of the equation and it’s between Cain and Romney. Romney sounds better, but also more packaged. Cain sounds honest and real. I’m sticking with Cain.
Report Post »chipmunk
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:49amagreed brother!!!!!!!
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:20amRight on! The 9-9-9 plan might not be the best way to go, but I trust Mr. Cain to look at the matter with fairness and genuine intelligence. That’s just it — I trust Herman Cain.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 8:54am@Chuck stein You said “That’s just it — I trust Herman Cain.”
Report Post »How can you trust a man who refuses to release the annual profit and loss statements from Godfather Pizza during his time there as CEO?
Owebamao won’t release his info and now you want a guy who does the same thing.
VET THE CANDIDATES!
HADEN0UGH
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:33amI like Newt just for the fact that he will repeal Sarbanes-Oxley.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:14amI am beginning to wonder whether Newt should be discounted. If he were the nominee I think he would be abl;e to formulate a powerful argument against Obama OUTSIDE the debates. INSIDE he will anihilate him. And I think, despite his foolish vetures into global warming, that he is fundamentaslly conservative in his political philosophy and with a Republican Congress he would be a very good President.
So can he win the nomination? I thought it highly unlikely before because he, like Romney, is a known quantity with a natural ceiling for support among Republicans. But his rise in the polls, coupled with his intelectual dominance of the debates, makes me think maybe Primarry voters might give him a shot. I saw Palin came out and called him the winner in the debate last night.
Things are still very fluid in the search for a viable alternative to the perfectly plastic “conservative” we are seeing in Mitt.
Report Post »fixlungs
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:48pmFrankly, I dont care who gets in at this point. As long as we get rid of the muslim Obama. Obviously, a conservative would be great. Newt is smarter than all of them, but idiots wont elect him on looks alone.
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:55pmNewt’s real problem is that he is a “global warming” advocate…
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:40pmi’m not voting for the next hollywood actor… i’m voting for Ron Paul… someone who really does care about this country and how astray we have gotten from creating strong, hardworking individuals through the soil of freedom and personal responsibility…
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:47pmCain gets caught in to many lies
Report Post »xoke
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:54pmLies? He fumbles some of the questions…not sure about the “lies” I’d leave that title to Mittens.
Report Post »fixlungs
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:55pmname one
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:15pmHe lied about trading guantanimo detainees for a POW…He lied about not protesting in the 60′s because he said he was too young
Report Post »Moonepie
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:18amI think he just changed his mind is all. He said he could see himself negotiating with the terrorists; but I’m betting that later on, after the interview, he realized how dumb that would be and changed his mind. But made it seem like he must have misunderstood the question. I find it hard to believe that he misunderstood the question. He really doesn‘t have a foreign policy as he wants to wait until he’s president and has a chance to talk to everyone to find out what’s really going on. But we simply can‘t wait for someone like him to get a crash course on what’s been going on. We need someone that already knows and has a good foreign policy in mind.
Report Post »shackero
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:47pmI just don’t trust Mitt—–I agree with Rush—Mitt is a flipp-flopper……………Go Herman Cain—–If not Cain—-Then Newt is my next choice………….
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:51pmDitto Although I am beginning to start to trust Mitt more and more. I believe the GOP ticket will be Romney – Cain.
Report Post »TulsaTodd
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:00pmAt this point, I’d LOVE to see a Cain/Gingrich ticket up against Owe-bama/Biden-our-time! That would be a no contest – Cain (or Gingrich) would absolutely wipe the floor with obama in a debate – if he would ever agree to one.
CAIN2012!!!
Report Post »WatchingAndListening
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:02pmMy sentiments exactly.
Report Post »LoisLane1951
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:47pmReally? A debate? Where?
Report Post »steveh931
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:46pmAfter watching tonight‘s debate I’m warming up to the idea of Cain / Gingrich ticket, either way, doesn’t matter.
Report Post »fixlungs
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:50pmagreed
Report Post »FreetownBill
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:53pmI agree Gingrich/Cain – We need the brains and power that Newt demonstrates. Baggage our not He can stand up to Obama and then tear down the structure obama and the progressives have built!
Report Post »NYCPATRIOT
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:06pmAgreed. NEWT/CAIN. CAIN/NEWT Nice ring to it either way!
Report Post »gfmucci
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:23pmYes, Cain/Gingrich (or Gingrich/Cain) would be a great ticket. Cain is looking for an “insider”, one savvy in Washington politics to complement his own “outsider” experience. Newt fits that bill the best. And very importantly, both Cain and Newt have the greatest awareness of the threat of Islam, Sharia law, and mosque proliferation in this country (mosques are centers of Saudi-funded sedition). The others (except Santorum) are politically correct dhimmis on Islam, especially Romney and Paul. See http://muccings.blogspot.com/2011/10/presidential-candidates-position-on.html
Report Post »Free2speakRN
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 4:15amsteveh931,
Report Post »Cain/Newt, even Newt/Cain.
I really like Cain. And I believe this combo will best help the American people, poor and rich. I want to know more nuances about 999, but I’m going to listen and research it. I’m one of the lower income citizens that can get burnt if his 999 attackers are correct. But I would sacrifice whatever to help America ‘stay’ America, especially for my kids and grandkids. I think the most amount of Jobs will be created with these two leading the country. Hopeful result, work hard and make a halfway decent living. Newt, as the vice-president, certainly historically known as being around the block, will advise Cain on DC’s comings and goings, and the greed involved. Newt’s got baggage, but he seems a bit different to me.
Cain I think first of all, is a good man. But also, he is smart, successful, and let’s face it, a black American. Cain may emotionally, logically, in some cases rightfully so, be more likely listened to by minorities. Only a black man, considering the history of the country, and before in Europe, I think, can attract the hearts and minds of minorities in general, and the fact that they don‘t ’need’ to depend on government. If there are jobs availabe, then all Americans can try to advance by ‘out-performing’. Hopefully there may finally be more ‘love’ in the country as well. We can only hope. Also, in a debate, Cain will “destroy” Obama. No race BS, just a battle of ‘ideas’ of mankind. Common Sense vs. Obama.
steveh931
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:30pm@FREE2SPEAKRN,
I agree, we have a year to examine this 999 plan. I do believe it has been proposed by a man, that if it’s proven to hurt the economy and put to much of a burden on low income citizens, that Mr. Cain would have no problem with re-assessing the entire plan. Mr. Cain seems to be a leader that listens to those that support him through their knowledge and labors, which in our case would be our elected Representatives. If all citizens nation wide pay close attention to those running for office in 2012 and elect those that best represent the people of each district in each state, along with Cain / Gingrich, I believe we might be able to get something done.
Report Post »LoisLane1951
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:46pmThere was a debate tonight?
Report Post »William Hemenway
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:46pmNewt is the only one who speaks with substance the rest are the same old same old.
Report Post »questioningwithboldness
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:50pmWould love to see Newt / Cain ticket. I think that newt would make a great president and would love love love to see him debate obama like he said a lincoln/douglas with NO moderator! The moderators are the ones screwing up these debates by asking the same people over and over. I also would like to see them all get the same questions and go down the row and all answer the questions. This format is stupid and anderson gets to say when the time is up?? This is not a good way to “debate”. Who decided all these questions? I say let each candidate pick a question for them all to answer. These debates have to get better as time goes on.
Report Post »LibertyJ
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:04amNewt who cheated on his wife while going after Clinton for cheating. Which Newt, the one who voted for the Department of Education or the one who is for small federal government?
Report Post »UBETHECHANGE
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:46pmGingrich/Cain 2012! Ron Paul Treasury Secretary.
Report Post »shackero
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:48pmI agree—-the dream-team…………..
Report Post »NotaLemming
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:06pmThis one looks good to me.
Report Post »Gingrich/Cain 2012! Ron Paul Treasury Secretary
Allen West as Secretary of Defense
Judge Andrew Napolitano as first Supreme court justice appointment
NYCPATRIOT
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:11pmlove it!
Report Post »Spatafizzle
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:54pm@NOTALEMMING
Now THAT‘s an ideal world if I’ve ever seen one!
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:16amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 7:47amDon’t forget to put Sarah Palin in charge of the EPA (unless it is eliminated) – drill, baby, drill!
Report Post »Bob
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:45pmCain/Gingrich 2012!
Report Post »Moonepie
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 12:31amHerman Cain was part of the Federal Reserve….the entity responsible for all of our economic woes. Cain has said that he doesn’t think the Federal Reserve needs to be audited. When there was finally a partial audit, thanks to people like Ron Paul, they found that trillions went to bail out foreign banks. So, do we really want a guy who had no idea what was going on at the Federal Reserve and had no idea that there would be an economic crisis today? He thought everything was just find and dandy in 2008.
Report Post »usmc1063
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:45pmI’ve said it before and I will say it before Herman Cain is the real Deal.
Report Post »420 Patriot
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 3:25pmThis election is going to be more of the same. I am beginning to believe that most Americans, even though they say they are Tea Party Conservatives, are just stuck in believing the MSM knows best on who should be President. Oh, Cain, he’s not a politician, he’s just like us, he just shouts 9-9-9 and everyone say’s yeah! Well, take a look at this video, it is long but worth watching.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5355374476580235299#
Income taxes are illegal. There is no law that requires any individual to pay income taxes. You are brainwashed into thinking it is your responsibility to pay. The IRS code says it is a voluntary tax. If Cain is elected and gets his 9-9-9 plan implemented the way he wants, it will finally make income taxes legal and will benefit the FED! We will then be in a position to lose all liberties to a point we cannot get them back. End the FED and we end the I.R.S. Get back to the Constitution and we will all start having a better life. Freedom is what we should be fighting for.
RP is the only honest candidate and the one with the guts to do it.
Report Post »Ok-Sure
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:55amRon Paul!!!!
Report Post »piper60
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:44pmHerman Cain acquired himself well tonight.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:44pmcain supporters disgusting.. aren’t you tired yet ? sheesh !!! You’re only going to get more of the same.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:14pmthe pizza man can deliver :) nice warm good safe pizza CAIN/ Gingrich 2012
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:27pmhave fun being taxed like crazy
Report Post »netmail
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:44pmA lot of it was hard to watch for me. I have a feeling WE are the ones who lost. For now, it‘s Cain for me but I’m not jumping up and down about it.
Report Post »nighteight
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:48pmDitto
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:58pmYep… I really had hopes Sarah would come to our rescue…
Report Post »L-man
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:26pmDitto ~ Cain seemed shallow tonight. newt shined with confidance .
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:43pmCain was great. 9 9 9
Report Post »Libby Tarian
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:43pmRon Paul has been in Congress for 30 years, he will not back down on his positions. I like that. You may not like his positions which are Libertarian positions. As a libertarian I believe the Federal Govt. should provide for a system of roads and a military …The End. Now the States ( all 57? of them, j/k) can enact whatever they want to according to the Constitution. That means if I get tired of what Texas enacts I could move to a state that is more to my liking. End Of Story, no fixing a broke system.
Report Post »nocomment
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:41pmCAIN 2012
Nuff said!
Report Post »xoke
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:44pmCain 2012!
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:44pmSay it again….
Report Post »GO CAIN 2012!!!
demint.disciple
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:45pmShould have stuck with “ nocomment ” …
Report Post »Blazer123
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:47pm“Bailouts are a win-win”
-Herman Cain
Part of his resume you won’t hear Cain brag about is that he served as Chairman of the Board of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He does talk a good game in the debates though.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:48pmTruth is that Gingrich is articulating Dr. Pauls ideas much better than he is.. So I‘d probably have to give it to Newt but I don’t really trust him.
Report Post »xoke
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:59pmUhhh, the fact he served on the Fed board in KC is on his website…not sure he is running from it. I love Ron Paul, but I hate his supporters. Ron Paul is not a clean as the wind driven snow like you all believe. I agree the Fed is an issue…but it’s not the only one. If you like Paul, great…so do I, on a lot of things…but the constant Fed this Fed that gets old. I’m done with career politicians…even one’s like Paul the earmarker.
Report Post »revolution4
Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:28pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn0EApd5wgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYkFYdLTTw8
Art Laffer loses credibility, watch the vids.
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