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Pope Defends Family as Spanish Gays Hold ‘Kiss-In’

BARCELONA, Spain (AP) — Pope Benedict XVI strongly defended traditional families and the rights of the unborn Sunday, directly attacking Spanish laws that allow gay marriage, fast-track divorce and easier abortions as he dedicated Barcelona’s iconic church, the Sagrada Familia.

Pope Defends Family as Spanish Gays Hold Kiss In

AP

It was the second time in as many days that Benedict had criticized the policies of Spain’s Socialist government and called for Europe as a whole to rediscover Christian teachings and apply them to everyday life.

As he headed to the church named for the sacred family, about 200 gays and lesbians staged a ‘kiss-in’ to protest his visit and church policies on homosexuals, condom use and a host of other issues. Church teaching holds that gays should be treated with dignity and respect but that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.”

Benedict has focused much of his pontificate on trying to fight secular trends in the West such as the legal recognition of same-sex unions. Benedict has visited Spain twice so far and has a third trip planned next year, an indication he sees this once staunchly Roman Catholic country as a battleground for the future of the faithful in Europe.

During his homily Sunday, Benedict noted that the Sagrada Familia church, a soaring, Art Nouveau marvel begun over a century ago, was initially conceived of as a temple to the family of Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

As he inaugurated the church’s main altar, he railed against same-sex marriage and divorce, saying families are built on the “indissoluble love of a man and a woman” who should be provided with financial and social benefits from governments. The pontiff also consecrated the building for use as a church in a colorful ceremony seldom seen performed by a pope.

He criticized policies allowing for abortions, saying “the life of children (must) be defended as sacred and inviolable from the moment of their conception.”

To press his point, Benedict was to visit a Spanish church-run home for children with developmental and behavioral problems later Sunday before returning to Rome.

Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero’s Socialist government has supported a legislative agenda that has deeply angered the Vatican, allowing gay marriage, quicker divorces and easier abortions.

Spain’s new abortion law allows the procedure without restrictions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy, bringing Spain more in line with its European neighbors.

As he arrived Saturday, Benedict blasted such policies, saying today’s “aggressive” anti-church, secular movement in Spain was reminiscent of the 1930s, when the church suffered violent persecution as the country lurched from an unstable democracy to civil war.

The reference was striking, given the scale of violence back then: poverty-stricken and disgruntled Spaniards burned churches and murdered priests and nuns whom they considered obstacles to much-needed change. The church claims 4,184 clergy were killed by the government, or Republican side, which accused the church of backing fascist Gen. Francisco Franco.

In his homily Sunday, Benedict again called for the West to embrace God and shun secular trends. He said the dedication of the Sagrada Familia church was of great importance “at a time in which man claims to be able to build his life without God, as if God had nothing to say to him.”

During the ritual-filled dedication ceremony, Benedict poured holy oil over the marble altar and spread it across all four corners with his hands, an apron protecting his vestments. He then lit a brass incense burner on the altar as Spain’s King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia looked on.

Afterward, four nuns dressed in black mopped up the remaining oil from the altar and placed fresh linens on it.

The church, which was being declared a basilica, is the masterwork of Antoni Gaudi, a Barcelona architect and staunch Catholic who dedicated his life to the project but died in 1926, only a few years after it was begun. He is on the path to possible sainthood.

The light-filled basilica is awash in Christian symbolism and imagery; its planned 18 towers which pierce Barcelona’s skyline represent the 12 apostles, the four evangelists, Mary and Jesus; the basilica‘s three main exterior facades depict Christ’s birth, death and resurrection; the 52 palm treelike columns inside represent the 52 Sundays of the year.

Benedict praised Gaudi for integrating nature, scripture and liturgy in his masterpiece in a way that overcame the distinction between the temporal and the eternal world.

“Antoni Gaudi did this not with words but with stones, lines, planes and points,” Benedict said. “Indeed, beauty is one of mankind’s greatest needs; it is the root from which the branches of our peace and the fruits of our hope come forth.”

Thousands of Spaniards lined Benedict’s motorcade route, cheering and waving the yellow and white flags of the Holy See. Mixed among the throngs outside Barcelona‘s cathedral were 200 members of the gay ’kiss-in’ who smooched as his popemobile went by.

Sergi Benavent, a 22-year-old nursing student, said he protested to show his opposition to those “who want to love in just one way.”

“This is a peaceful demonstration that there are more ways of expressing one’s love,” he said.

His partner, Andreu Martinez, a 27-year-old administrative assistant, concurred, saying he wanted to protest the church’s “antiquated, homophobic and sexist hierarchy.”

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Associated Press writers Joseph Wilson in Barcelona and Harold Heckle in Madrid contributed to this report.

Comments (105)

  • Robert W
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 5:28pm

    God bless the Pope!

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  • megaman
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 3:04pm

    Same sex marriage is ridiculous whats next having the right to marry an animal or maybe adults marrying kids horrible if we give in to same sex marriage whats next

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  • welovetheUSA
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:50pm

    And they wonder “Why” we can’t stand these filthy animals.

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  • jblazak
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:00pm

    Sorry for the typo s/b “in the eyes of our Creator”

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  • jblazak
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:55pm

    Sodomy is sodomy no matter how it is cloaked! It will alway be an abomination is the eyes of our creator!

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  • Johnnyp1958
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:49pm

    I accept your apology Deutscher and don’t care if your a bigot

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 3:32pm

      How clever. I can’t think of anything on that level to say.

      Wait my 8yo niece suggests: ” I know you are but what am I?”

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:46pm

    as soon as Spain hits muslim saturation, all these gays will be slaughtered by islam. period. and here they are protesting and grossing out the one major religion left on earth who wouldn’t kill them for their deviance.

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:09pm

    A woman cannot be a priest or be a pope.

    The Bible does not contain a single word of God.

    Cathedrals are outrageously expensive golden calves.

    Number one most popular activity on the internet is pornography. Number one most favorite type of pornography of men is lesbian action.

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

     
  • Endstatism
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:58am

    If you are gay and you dont agree with the Catholic Church`s teachings on homosexuality, find another church that will fit your beliefs. Dont demand that the church conform to your beliefs or change to suit the popular culture.

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  • number1write
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:50am

    I would like to see the stats on the social diseases spread as a result of this little exhibition.

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  • Johnnyp1958
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:48am

    You people are hetharaphobes, If I don‘t agree with your way of thinking I’m labeled as a homophobe or I have a problem. Well my Problem is this I don’t agree or approve what these low lives do, I know there will always be Gay‘s on this planet till the end of time but I don’t give a s**t about there special needs or them . If you want to be politically correct about them that‘s your choice and I don’t care. I’m glad there is still an outlet where I can speak my mind and not care about the likes of you who disagree with me , that’s your right . Thank God we still have a right to disagree , also to the obtuse Spokavriel, I never said anything about killing any gays . I guess it’s fine for people of your stature to find nothing wrong with insulting the Pope or a religion as long as you make your B.S. statement‘s about how good you feel as a person of tolerance or maybe your one of these broken minded parasite’s yourself. I really don’t care what you are or stand for in life . PERIOD

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:16pm

      There is nothing wrong with SPEAKARIEL insulting the pope, or religion for that matter if it is an honest rebuke and not just a mean spirited diatribe ( see above ).
      Yes there will always be gays just as there will always be biggots.
      It might surprise you to find that some are disgusted by them, just as you are by gays.
      But then you don’t care what others think, so I imagine you won’t concern yourself with this.

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    • Spokavriel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:31pm

      Broken perverse mislead whatever the view of gays they are still our fellow man. Your earlier statement was that the world would be better if they would just die. Very few of the Nazi party of Germany were involved in ethnic cleansing. But the attitude of, there being people who, the world would be better off with if they were just dead was prevalent at the foundation of that party.

      Admittedly this is not a similar situation but the attitude in the last line of your earlier post is.

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  • Iamtheoracle
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:54am

    That is gross… I frankly am sick of having gay actions – kissing and fondling shoved down my eyeballs every which way… I dont watch much TV anymore because of that. Look – I don’t even like having heterosexuals all up in their hoohas making out in public

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:48am

      It is only going to get worse. But, take courage. Matthew 24:14

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    • Spokavriel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:24pm

      @Whitefang I like going back 1 verse further. 24:12 “And because Lawlessness will abound the love of many will grow cold.
      13 “But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

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  • MrButcher
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:43am

    it’s hard to take the words of a man who is a front for institutionalized child-rape seriously.

    why hasn’t ratzinger been placed under arrest for his role in the cover-up of hundreds of cases of raped children?

    the pope and Roman Polanski should be in prison together.

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    • jcons114
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 3:53pm

      Excuse me?? Institutionalized Child Rape?? Covered it up?? Pope Benedict FKA Cardinal Ratzinger has done so much tobring an end to this problem. He ordered apostolic vistis of seminaries and religious orders, he lowered the statute of limitations on abuse. He has taken the resignations of several BISHOPS who had misshandled the cases. The Pope is not a babysitter to the bishops…it is they who messed up not the Church as a whole. and who was it who actually met with abuse victims, condemned it in the most vehement terms, and wept as he said how he was “terrified” at how widespread it was??? THE POPE!!!
      And for you holy roller evangelical protestants who keep saying the Catholic Church is some false religion: It has been the Catholic Church who has remained unchanged in faith and morals for 2 millenia. when the anglicans and mainstream protestants changed their views on homosexuality, contraception, abortion, etc. It was the Catholic Church that consistently said “NO!! this is not God’s will.” While the protestants have divided and divided like bacteria cells The Catholic Church remained whole and thrived. While Protestan minister fake healings and buy expensive suits, Catholic priest have saved countless souls wearing nothing but their tab collars. That’s my rant for this article. lol

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  • slimster
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:19am

    what the pope said was true, but it is hard to take him seriously when there is so much sin and corruption going on inside the catholic church, sexual abuse and cover ups. They need to take the plank out of their own eyes, other wise it just looks like the blind leading the blind.

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    • computerdweller
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:46pm

      Why don’t you be specific. Gay priests inside the priesthood molesting boys. A situation caused by state anti-discrimination laws by which the church was denied the right to discriminate against their admission to a seminary. The mistake was not throwing them out one first act, but then without enough proof they probably would have just lawyered up and caused a different kind of fuss.

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    • tmarends
      Posted on November 8, 2010 at 1:43pm

      @computerdweller

      There are plenty of straight priest who molest girls, or have “special” sessions with female members… it just doesn’t get reported as much. Remember “The Thorn Birds”?? It was about a priest who had a sexual relationship with a girl young enough to be his daughter.

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  • UlyssesP
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:19am

    Giant GAY Jesus Now Looms Over Italian Town

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  • Johnnyp1958
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:38am

    Gay’s are nothing more than broken humans. They are the SCUM of society who feel the need to be treated special or different, needing special laws for there protection from society. It would do the world good if these perverted parasites were to all die.

     
    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:51am

      You are a sad individual Johnny.

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    • Spokavriel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:12am

      Johnny have you ever heard of the Reich there were allot of people who believed they should cleanse the world of people they thought were unworthy. Kinda lead to something called World War II. That is a frightening stance and I hope you seek help.

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    • Nvrforget
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:40pm

      Because being allowed to marry the person you love = special. Gotcha.

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:25pm

      You are so wrong and dark hearted. Some gays, as in every group, are self-centered prigs. What these gays did in protest was despicable. But, God still loves them & they are still God’s children, just as we all are. And we are all sinners. We are all looking for redemption & salvation. It will be found in Jesus, not in any specific church. God loves you too.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 3:44pm

      Clearly, you’re not a Christian in any sense of the word Johnny.

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    • caitlynsdad
      Posted on November 8, 2010 at 2:20pm

      Johnny is a troll in a poor disguise.

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  • Spokavriel
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:31am

    I thought projections had it taking another 20 years for the Sagrada Familia cathedral to be finished… Anyone know if the reason the architect died was related to the loss of clergy in the 30′s?

    Its a great work but I find it kinda sad that the Temple to the Family isn’t simply the family home. You know with a Husband Wife and Children Other generations aunts uncles grand parents visiting.

    While there can be Love in a gay relationship and they can even adopt its not the same blood of my blood flesh of my flesh family that is canonized and sanctified. What is the big deal to homosexuals that the Church cannot embrace them? Its a relationship that requires someone else to have a child to give up for it to become a whole family. In other words it cannot have a whole family without breaking another family at least a little. What church could ever accept any even minor attack against families?

    So you want to live your life however you want go ahead. That doesn’t mean the Church has the right nor capacity to accept it. And really there‘s no reason to persecute but I’m not seeing persecution here just condemnation that when you look at it from a survival of the species standpoint makes perfect sense even without going into all the higher scriptural reasons.

    Gays can be gay all they want and its between them and God IMO. God made everything but marriage is for the pairing of a Husband and a Wife. Not husband and husband because without a wife you are not really a husband nor wife and wife because without a husband there is no true wife.

    Feelings may be true but that doesn’t make it a relationship that creates a family that will continue. And really as a family if they want to consider it one it should be pitied because it has no future beyond the current generation.

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:39am

      “Feelings may be true but that doesn’t make it a relationship that creates a family that will continue”

      Again applying that standard excludes many opposite sex couples who adopt. I think they would argue that thier family does continue through their children, adopted or not

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    • Spokavriel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:46am

      If the children take after their adoptive parents instead of their biological ones again it requires the breaking of another family for them to have children. Again the only way for it to continue is by tearing at other more traditional families. For it to continue without changing back to traditional style relationships it has to destroy. That’s not a good thing in the big picture sense.

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:54am

      I just can’t follow the “broken family” argument. What am I missing? No adoptive families are families? So when opposite sex couples adopt a child who has no family, that is a bad thing in your opinion?

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    • Spokavriel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:55am

      I was a little unclear. For a Gay relationship to become a Family it has to break off a piece of another family. The Gay relationship does not have any way to become a family without that breaking of other families. Children born out of wedlock are also in a broken family one that was never bound together in the first place. Do you see the Church going out to support that practice or condemn it any more or less than they are gay relationships?

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:02am

      I still dont understand how putting together pieces of “broken” families to make a new one is a bad thing.
      As far as what the church stands for, that is their business. I just think it should not try to put it’s values on those who are not members

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    • Spokavriel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:09am

      I’m not saying making families of broken pieces is a bad thing. I’m saying that Gays can never make the transition from couples to families without a broken one being there. If the church were to accept the relationships they would in effect be accepting that families will be broken. That is not a side the church can take because it undermines survival. Big picture view of course. But because of that picture they can never accept.

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:21am

      Thanks for the discussion. I think I understand your opinion.

      In a discussion regarding what the church recognizes as a family, I have no opinion. The church can obviously have whatever position it wants. I’m just against that position being codified in civil law which affects those who are not members.

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    • Spokavriel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:29am

      Oh boy… I got stuck as you can see. I really wish this place had private messaging right now. I’m pretty sure the Church started adoptions to help keep kids from being left without families. And I really wish there were some more programs to help prevent unwed or “Parents without Partners” situations but really I should have at least had some coffee before responding to responses. Adoption is a good thing and yes it makes a family. But the key confusion is traditional. Its a family that is how it is only because another one broke. More help is needed to avoid the creation of broken families in the first place.

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:18pm

      No worries. I think we all would like a world with great families.
      Enjoy your Sunday.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:26am

    There are going to be many a soul going to hell because of the Catholic Church. Satan has completely infiltrated them. We need to pray for the Catholics that God will open their eyes to the truth.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:26pm

      Not only the catholic church, but all of false religion will have to answer to the Great Creator, and Righteous God Jehovah for their actions. Revelation 18:1-8 refers to false religion as “Babylon the Great”. A very interesting read indeed.

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    • Spokavriel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:30pm

      @Blacktooth Wouldn’t it be better to start that one at verse 4 and go through verse 8?

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:12pm

      Starting with verse one sets up the context of the subject, which is Babylon the Great, and its condition in God’s eyes. It is good to include as much of the context as possible to help a person understand what is going on and to understand the issue better. Thanks for your observation.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on November 8, 2010 at 3:36am

      You know what Babylon represents in the Book of Revelation? Babylon, that’s what! Not America, not Spain, not western Europe or Rsussia or any country that’s still around – it represents Babylon, and since Babylon stopped being a major power over a thousand years ago, and none of the stuff in the book ever happened, that means that none of it ever will!

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on November 8, 2010 at 4:54pm

      OK Chet, ‘whatever’.

      I do have to say though, you definitely need to get some accurate history lessons concerning the literal Babylon. Do some research the subject of Babylon.
      That ancient City/Empire is referred to in the Bible as a type, to represent a false religious nation or entity. During the time of Christ, old Babylon was no longer a player in the affairs of the day. The anti-typical Babylon (the Great) is now not a literal city, but is to represent false religion’s on the earth.

      If you do want to learn about this, then fine, go about your life in peace.

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  • RepubliCorp
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:19am

    What is next? Planned Parenthood will do a abortion in front pope?

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  • janddjohnson
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:06am

    This is one of the most disrespectful acts that I have ever seen. It is disgusting. Do they think after seeing their displays of kissing and groping that the Pope will change his mind? I know that it only makes me more disgusted with them. Where has respect gone? I will not ever accept the gay lifestyle as being normal. I will never embrace it. Displays like this only make me more angry.

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    • texasfarmer
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:43am

      Think that’s disgusting? Check out the rump rangers in San Fransisco gay parades.
      It’s their perverted view of a relationship. Want to be friends? Fine. Don’t call it marriage.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:56am

      The situation is this; It is too late for the catholic church to demand respect, they have lost that opportunity and now they are reaping what they have sown. The deviant section of society never had the respect of anyone. So, both parties are absurd.

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  • wonderbug
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:02am

    “In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph.”… The Blessed Mother said that at Fatima.

    Prayers for our Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI…. speaking the Truth amidst the uproar ..

    Lord, have mercy on your people.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:42am

      Your comment illustrates my point. Your catholic rhetoric makes no sense in the light of the Bible, nothing in your words are accurate nor are they in harmony with what the Bible actually says. The catholic church does not teach the Bible, they teach a religion.

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    • wonderbug
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:20pm

      WHITEFANG… the Catholic Church put together your Bible, and only they have the rightful authority to interpret it. Jesus made it so. Many have written extensively about this — Patrick Madrid, for one. http://www.surprisedbytruth.com/

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:07pm

      Wonderbug, I’m sorry but you are wrong again. You should read 2 Timothy 3:16-17. There it indicates that God put his Word, the Bible together, not the catholic church. God had it written and He preserved it so we could know what is true and what isn’t. By the time of Constantine, the true Christian Church had become so apostatized that the resulting catholic religion did not resemble the early Christians at all. I do understand catholics are discouraged from reading the Bible, but you might benefit from it.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:32pm

      Mr. Wonder,
      Who is Patrick Madrid? and why does he matter?
      I think I will listen to the words of God and of His son, Jesus.

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  • Colonial Revolutionary
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:55am

    And to think just 200 years ago Spain was still holding inquisitions. I am not condoning the inquisitions I am just saying how ironic God’s plan for us can be.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:37am

      God’s purpose for the human family is clearly set out in His Word, the Bible. The problem with the majority of mankind is they do do want to accept that purpose. They prefer to follow some apostate church or deviant lifestyle. Accurate knowledge can not to be found in the churches of christendom, as they are too far removed from the teachings of Jesus, the Christ. We need to read the Bible! There is no other way. John 17:3

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:10pm

      Ahh, Matthew 7:13-28 is very enlightening. It will educate us, to learn how Jesus feels about false religion.

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  • angelcat
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:53am

    Doing and saying what is right is not always popular. Marriage is a sacrament between a man and a women. Gays can pretend to be married with the sanctions of whatever state or country they live in, but it will never be a marriage in the eyes of God. They can’t change that. True marriage has the opportunity to result in natural procreation. A gay union can’t do that, so it can never be a true marriage.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:04am

      …and they know it, which is why they throw thier little tantrums. Good post ANGELCAT.

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:33am

      So any marriage where there is no ability to procreate is not a marriage? That’s an arbitrary condition, and would mean my fathers marriage was not valid ( step-mom was steril).

      And I think most gays are not concerned with gods view. They just want civil equality. As long as it’s legal, no one cares if churches recognize it I think.

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    • tierrah
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:03pm

      @Deutscher: I think the issue is do they have the PROPER equipment to procreate whether or not there are obstacles to that procedure!!!

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  • john654
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:43am

    The Culture of Life against The Culture of Death!

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:46am

      No. To me its the philosophy of death fighting each other in order to make you think one of them must be right. Read Atlas Shrugged.

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  • yooyanks
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:39am

    Gays against God. Pretty much sums it up, or to have their lifestyle legitimized.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:54am

      The protests are not about them being allowed to practice thier sexual deviance, they already are allowed to live thier lives any way they choose. They are about making us accept thier lifestyles and agree that same sex unions are natural and normal. So again, they should have the right to feel the way they do about same sex stuff but we shouldn’t have the right to feel the way we do about it. Shame on them for thier disrespectful behavior in front of the pope.

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:34am

      @Untamable Kate

      In agreement there, as a chaplain my view is of course shifted to one side, and that is no one should have the right to force down my throat their beliefs or perversions. If they chose to do what they do out of my area, in private, fine, just do not invade my space. God will sort the mess out soon anyhow.

      Also, thought I would pass this on, the J Laurance radio show last night had a caller that is a self declared socialist-progressive-libertarian (I know the gentleman) who claims that “Mr Obama has sold himself to the republican party over matters of oil industry, unemployment, higher taxes, immigration non reform (he called it catch and release)…“ and declared the President has ”prostituted” himself out to the republican right wing special interest groups and does exactly what the republicans do.

      This aired last night about 8pm phoenix time on KTAR radio.

      The caller failed to get that Obama works for the democrats and progressives to annhilate this great country. Go figure.

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm

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    • EgoBrain
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:34am

      Why,why why do they need to hold a ‘kiss in?”
      Why?

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    • jds7171
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:17pm

      They are complaining that they can’t get married and reap the tax benefits that married people enjoy. Just like here in the states. IF you get rid of the marriage tax benefit, a good portion of them wouldn’t care about getting married.

      In order to do that, the government has to stop taxing us so much. Then they can get rid of all of the deductabiles. But that will never happen because the government don’t want to get rid of their power.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:31pm

      I love a rousing defense of the family and traditional Christian values. That said, the Catholic Church would be much more credible on this front if they would “repeal” Vatican II in toto (it basically liberalized the Church) and dismiss the members of the clergy that are gay (and yes, they know who they are most of the time, and if they don’t they should strive to discover such things).

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    • uncleherbert
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:21pm

      demonic is the only thing you can call it. spain has shown its true spirit…lucifer will be proud!

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    • Robert W
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 5:27pm

      Gay marriage is just another nail in the coffin of society.

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    • Seabeece1
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:09pm

      Oh yeah wow, yuk, just the thought of….. puke. Man& Women. God made it so. Not man& man, not women & women.

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