Pope Demands Greater Morals & Ethics in Global Economic Policy
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Pope Benedict XVI with Spain's King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia in Madrid
MADRID (The Blaze/AP) — Pope Benedict XVI denounced the profit-at-all-cost mentality that he says is behind Europe’s current economic crisis as he arrived in hard-hit Spain on Thursday, and said morals and ethics must play a greater role in formulating economic policy in the future.
Benedict made the comments as he traveled to Madrid for the Catholic Church’s World Youth Day, a weeklong Catholic festival that is taking place against a backdrop of the European debt crisis and social unrest among the young that exploded recently in the riots in Britain.
Benedict said the crisis and sense of desperation among young people proved that ethics have been increasingly left out of formulating economic policy at local and international levels.
“The economy doesn’t function with market self-regulation but needs an ethical reason to work for mankind,” he told reporters traveling aboard the papal plane. “Man must be at the center of the economy, and the economy cannot be measured only by maximization of profit but rather according to the common good.”
He said the current crisis shows that a moral dimension isn’t “exterior” to economic problems but “interior and fundamental.”
Benedict explored the theme more fully in his 2009 encyclical “Charity in Truth,” in which he called for a new world financial order guided by ethics, dignity and the search for the common good.
On Wednesday night, about 5,000 protesters opposed to the pope’s visit clashed with riot police in downtown Madrid. Police said eight demonstrators were arrested and 11 people were injured in the disturbances Wednesday night in the city’s Puerta del Sol plaza. A protest against the pope last year in London drew some 10,000 people, the largest such anti-pope demonstration in recent times. Al-Jazeera has more on the protests:
“People were going really crazy but, at the same time, God wants all of us to be here and I know that he‘ll like protect us all while we’re here,” said Holly Springfield, a 17-year-old American who witnessed the protest and said she was a bit shaken by it.
But Benedict arrived in Madrid on Thursday to a boisterous welcome from young people with their faces painted the colors of the Spanish flag chanting: “These are the pope’s young people!” A cordon of youngsters decked out in faux Swiss Guard uniforms greeted Benedict on the tarmac at Madrid’s Barajas airport, along with Spain’s King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and conservative opposition leader Mariano Rajoy, the man forecast to take power in November elections, also were present.
Clouds and a breeze kept Madrid’s notoriously hot August temperatures down to a relatively comfortable 25 Celsius (77 Fahrenheit), though the mercury inched up as the sun broke through.
In a speech delivered on the tarmac in Spanish, Benedict referred to the precariousness many young people see in their future. Unemployment in Spain is nearly 21 percent and is the highest in the eurozone.
“Many young people look worriedly to the future, as they search for work, either because they have lost their job or because the one they have is precarious or uncertain,” Benedict said. He urged young people to keep fast in their faith.
“With God beside them, they will posses light to walk by and reasons to hope, unrestrained before their highest ideals, which will motivate their generous commitment to build a society where human dignity and true brotherhood are respected,” he said.
King Juan Carlos also referred to the sense of hopelessness many young people feel, saying today’s youth are “frustrated by the lack of personal and work possibilities, and rebel against the serious problems facing the world today.”
As Benedict was being driven from Madrid‘s airport to the Vatican Embassy through one of the capital’s ritziest neighborhoods, streets and bridges were filled with youths waving flags, throwing white and yellow balloons – the Vatican’s colors – and cheering. The popemobile was surrounded by security cars and motorcycles with blue lights flashing.
Later Thursday he is to be officially greeted by World Youth Day participants in Madrid’s Plaza de Cibeles.
This is Benedict’s third trip to Spain as pope, cementing its reputation as ground zero in his campaign to reinvigorate the faith in European countries where Catholicism has fallen by the wayside. Laws passed under Zapatero allowing gay marriage, fast-track divorce and easier abortions have deeply angered the Vatican, which sees the once staunchly Roman Catholic country as a battleground for the future of the faithful in Europe.
Many Spaniards have balked at the cost of the visit at a time of economic difficulty. Many have cited the fact that pilgrims are getting deeply discounted subway and bus tickets with their accreditation packages, while such prices for everyone else went up 50 percent this month to $1.50.
Vatican Radio responded to the critics Thursday, noting that the euro50 million ($72 million) tab for staging World Youth Day is being paid for by the participants themselves, some private donors and the church. Critics say the organizers‘ estimate for the price tag doesn’t include security costs and is a fraction of the total price tag for Spaniards.
On Tuesday, police arrested a chemistry student working as a volunteer for the pope‘s visit on suspicion he was planning a gas attack on protesters opposed to the pontiff’s visit, officials said. The 24-year-old Mexican student, Jose Perez Bautista from Puebla state, was ordered released on Thursday. He wasn’t formally charged but remains under investigation with his passport seized.
Organizers expect a million or more young people from 193 countries to attend the festival. The main events are a prayer vigil with the 84-year-old Pope and outdoor sleepover for pilgrims Saturday night at a sprawling air base, and Mass there the next morning.
Except for a trip Friday to a historic monastery in El Escorial, 50 kilometers (30 miles) northwest of Madrid, the pope will spend the whole visit in Madrid, meeting with young people, hearing confession from some of them, riding through the city in his popemobile and greeting young nuns, seminarians and university professors, among other activities.
In Spain the church faces a congregation for whom being Catholic is more a birthmark than a way of life. A poll released in July says that while 72 percent of Spaniards identify themselves as Catholic, 60 percent say they “almost never” go to Mass and only 13 percent every Sunday.
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Lisa4Catholics
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:46pmBENEDICT XVI (2005 – present):
Report Post »“We do not need a State which regulates and controls everything”
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Benedict XVI
“The State which would provide everything, absorbing everything into itself, would ultimately become a mere bureaucracy incapable of guaranteeing the very thing which the suffering person − every person − needs: namely, loving personal concern. We do not need a State which regulates and controls everything, but a State which, in accordance with the principle of subsidiarity, generously acknowledges and supports initiatives arising from the different social forces and combines spontaneity with closeness to those in need. … In the end, the claim that just social structures would make works of charity superfluous masks a materialist conception of man: the mistaken notion that man can live ‘by bread alone’ (Mt 4:4; cf. Dt 8:3) − a conviction that demeans man and ultimately disregards all that is specifically human.” (Encyclical Deus Caritas Est, December 25, 2005, n. 28)
sooner12
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:53pmGood post and thank you.
It’s a shame that there are so many here casting the “first stone.”
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:03pmGod said, “Thou shalt have no gods before Me.”
GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:38pmThe popes see themselves as the visible god on earth. With that kind of blaspheme I don’t care what any of them say until they come clean, stop leading people to hell, and truly repent of their ways. The catholic church is responsible for leading hundreds of millions of its followers to hell. That is not to mention how many thousands they murdered in the crusades.
Please, please seek the face of God for yourselves. Get on your knees and beg God for forgiveness and ask Him to come into your heart. Read His Word for yourself. Everyone is born with a specific purpose to fulfill for Him. So if all you know about the Bible is what others have told then you have not received what he wants you to do. Church doctrine is just like what is going in our government. They keep adding more and more laws and things get worse and worse.
Report Post »This is nothing new. God gave 613 laws for the Israelite’s to follow so they religious folks decided to add over 6 thousand more before Jesus was born.
Avoid religious people. Religion kills and leads one away from God.
becker88
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:42pmDeadly sayings.
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Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:46pmGreater morals and ethics? Well, that kicks Obahmer’s arse out into the street where it belongs.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:46pmThe Word of God is not just controlling our religious life; it’s controlling the orbits around the sun of the asteroids. The Word of God is controlling the trajectory of earth through space. The Word of God is controlling the physics of the universe. The Word of God is controlling every area that His Word will prevail, He works all things after His counsel, and He is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think. So every fact, every law, every molecule is under His control.
When ever you detect the order, God created all there is. Everyone involved is given a chance to reveal their creativity. However, those who act foolishly and demonstrate wickedness will become the sea of fire.
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:48pmIt is obvious Gideon doesn’t read the other posts; he just replies to the top most posting so that his hate and vitriol will be seen by all.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:53pm@ poverty… so it’s god who is letting starving children in Somalia die? I don’t get it… if he’s controlling all molecules and trajectories. And that you’re probably an American not starving to death and suffering opposed to a starving suffering child in Somalia is because god likes you more than those children? I really don’t get it.. why would god give you better luck? i don’t get it? why would he do it that way.. seems petty or evil to me…
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:11pmSomali is controlled by Islam. Give credit where credit is due.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:46pm@sooner12
I forgive you.
As a late comer to this I forgive you also.
I am trying to warn you. Do some research of your own and you will see that I have been actually very nice in the way that I have presented my case. If you do truly research the real background of the catholics and still feel the same then satan has you already.
May God bless you and open your eyes.
Report Post »bruce_baker
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:16amPeter, the first head of the church, and thus, the first “Pope”, was a disciple of Christ and could cast out demons and heal the sick. Common sense tells me that it was his job to train a successor, and that the tradition and knowledge passed from Christ to Peter should have been carried forward. Methinks that some “apprentice Pope” cheated on his final exam, and the “secret” of Christianity was lost. That would mean that we’ve all been just “going through the motions” since that happened. I’ve heard of warrior Popes from the early Middle Ages that went into battle with a mace instead of a sword, so they wouldn’t be guilty of the sin of shedding blood. That doesn’t sound very Christ-like to me, so it’s apparently been a long time lost, that “secret”!
Report Post »1bambam
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:32amlook who’s calling the kettle black……why don‘t we straighten out our own house before we worry about someone else’s house Morals and Ethics and Priest can we clean that up first…..ya think..
Report Post »CatholiConservative
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 6:17amGreat post- I‘m tired of the socialist media trying to portray a religion who’se main driver is individual conversion & loving a God who died & rose for each individual, and each individual is solely the reason he came- to our friend who is trying to breed division among conservatives- nobody- especially the pope – sees him as anything more than human. Your argument about hi
Report Post »Thinking of himself as a ‘visible god’ sounds more like a disgruntled teenager who’s parents arent saying what he wants to hear- the pope ( papam in Latin- meaning father) is likely one of the most mis- quoted & spun leaders in the world
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:07am@CatholicConservstive
Gideon is speaking truth. The division comes from your choice to follow the Pope instead of Jesus Christ, not from Gideon telling you truth.
If your denying the Pope believes to be Christ on Earth your denying Catholic Doctrine. Either your ignorant of your own “faith” or flat out lying. Fact, which can not be negotiable, the Popes think they are Christ.
A two page list can be compiled and posted if you would like of the contradictions between the Pope‘s teachings and Jesus’s teachings.
A two page list can also be compiled detailing the anti-Christ from the Bible which the Pope fulfills perfectly even up to this day.
A two page list can also be compiled showing Peter was no Pope and Jesus never declared for there to be one.
We do not speak these truths out of hate but out of love. If you know Jesus you know He is all you need to bow to, talk to and worship to.
Follow Jesus, not the Pope!
@Sooner12
Gideon is speaking truth. What proof do you need for you to accept the Pope teaches opposite of Jesus? When your courageous enough to face truth we can provide the facts. Your choice.
Report Post »wesleyapril
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:08amCesium,
No the Islamic slimes are letting people die in Somalia – they are refusing to give the food to the people there – especially if your Christian. I don’t care for this Pope – I tend to think that Catholics are totally messed up – I wouldn’t listen to any rubbish that came out of his mouth.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:09am@bruce_baker
Here we go again.
Peter never set foot in Rome in his life, he was sent to spread the Gospel to the Jews. Paul was sent to the gentiles. Peter was married, Jesus healed his mother-in-law. The catholic priests are not allowed to marry so they turn to their accepted practice of unnatural, immoral, illegal, and anti-Biblical tradition of burning in their lusts and brutalizing children sexually.
Yes, Jesus cast out demons and and told us to do the same, have you yet?
Jesus said in Mark 16:15-18
-And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
-He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
-And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
-They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
If you are involved with a church that does not have a healing ministry, does not cast out demons or teach others about it, denies and prohibits speaking in tongues than you are not obeying Christ and not a follower of Him. How can you be a witness for God when you do not follow or believe His Word.
Report Post »We are is a spiritual battle here on earth and the biggest obstacle we have are those that have been indoctrinated by religious spirits that lead people to “ another jesus ”.
Make your calling and electi
beckisnuts
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:35amCatholic Church = country club for pedophiles. End of story. Shut it down.
meanwhile, proof of evolution and information on how it works:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2027558/Scientists-undo-evolution-create-chicken-snout.html
By altering the DNA of chickens to resemble alligator genes before the beak developed, Dr Abzhanov was able to change the evolutionary path of chickens so that they grew snouts instead.
Dr Abzhanov told the New Scientist: ‘It looks exactly like a snout looks in an alligator [at this stage].’
Jack Horner, a leading paleontologist based at the University of Montana, is conducting similar work in an attempt to make a ‘chickenosaurus’ with a tail and hands similar to those of a dinosaur.
Craig Albertson, a developmental biologist at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst, said: ‘Abzhanov’s ‘snouted’ chicken provides a striking demonstration of just how easy it can be to provoke major evolutionary changes.’
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 9:03am@beckisnuts
Report Post »The debunked THEORY of evolution is not the topic and carries as much weight as the non-issue global warning party.
You are dismissed. Thank You for stooping by.
beckisnuts
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 9:45amGideo, you are welcome to keep your head buried in the sand or under the robes of a Catholic Priest to your heart’s content. Information is information and I have introduced this news here as I saw fit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2027558/Scientists-undo-evolution-create-chicken-snout.html
lolol
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 9:52amGideo, no one is going to hell. No one has ever gone to hell. You are so brain washed into believing the lies and myths that were spoon fed to you, that you have lost all sense of reason. Your whole Jesus story was fabricated, just as the religion of Jewish people, Muslims and all the others has been fabricated. People have science and reason now to explain the things. Religion and all of its hocus pocus, supernatural nonsense has grown threadbare. Wake up before you harm someone with your delusions.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2027558/Scientists-undo-evolution-create-chicken-snout.html
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 10:01am@BeckIsNuts
You obviously do not know Gideon because he isn’t Catholic.
You believe your ancestors came from Monkeys? I’m curious to why monkeys stopped turning into humans and if only one monkey turned into human or two at the same time so to create more humans.
Have scientists turned a Monkey into a human yet?
Man is simply understanding how God works (Science) not that God does not exist. If you could prove God didn’t exist you would. Fact is you can not because he does. 2nd law of Thermodynamics, Science, tells us just that.
Educate yourself….Something wound the clock. It was God.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 10:34am@beckisnuts
You know deep down that you are wrong. What keeps telling you that you are wrong is God’s still small voice within you, His Holy Spirit. This is a very common thing among those that try to rationalize away that there is someone or something greater to them. It‘s a real ego killer isn’t it?
In the end you are left with circular thinking and running around in a squirrel cage.
Just like going to a museum.
” These rocks are millions and billions of years old.”
How do you know?
“We have dated them by the bones that are near them.”
How do you the age of the bones?
” We have dated them by the age of the rocks that are near them.”
Circular thinking.
All the science keeps going back to a starting point and a highly organized design.
Nothing is ever created out of catastrophic explosion but a mess.
The only reason that people hold on to these anti-God views is that they wish to continue to live their lives the way they want and believe that they can reconcile with God on their death beds.
Darwin only wanted to create a reasonable doubt that God existed. This was done so he could live in sexual promiscuity which was not accepted by society in his time and region. Society was controlled by the church and to be cast out of the church left one outside of the social loop.
Darwinian’s refuse to speak of his findings that the human eye could not have been the product of natural selection or that on his deathbed he discouraged anyone to
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 10:44am@beckisnuts
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Report Post »Darwin discouraged anyone to follow his THEORIES.
DLG123
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 11:22amLisa4Catholics great post and may God bless you Father, Son, Holy Spirit!
Report Post »To all Catholics out there I have argued with Okie and Gideon before and presented the truth about the Catholic Church believes and teaches. They are more than likely JW‘s or SDA’s which means they look at what thier particular brand of faith says the Catholic Church teaches and or believes. They would not think to look at the Catechism Catholic Church which they would find exactly what we teach. When you present your side of the arguement they hit back with tired talking points like the pope thinks he god or catholics worship statues or the pope is the anti-christ or Cathiolics worship the sun god. Some parts of me thinks they are the same person or a troll baught and paid for by the left to monitor the faith section of theblaze and stir up hatred between Christians. Divide and conquer has been the strategy of the devil since the beginning.
Dust your sandals and move on.
Peace,
DLG
poverty.sucks
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 11:51amGod sent a Flood upon the earth, next will be Fire, Hell will be right here in earth. That’s Global Warming no environmentalist or Evolutionists can prevent.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:04pm@DLG
It would be much more creditable if you debated the truths provided rather then distract and avoid those facts.
Why are you putting obstacles between you and God? Adam and Eve did the same when they first sinned.
Anytime you feel you can refute these truths feel free.
Followers of Jesus are to be fishers of men. We are to share the Gospel of God’s Word. Criticizing us for doing what Jesus tells us to do in the Bible clearly shows your not following His teachings.
Again, when you feel you can refute these truths feel free….
Follow Jesus, not the Pope!
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:12pmOkie musk…your questions illustrate your ignorance of the science involved, so you will need to get informed before any serious discussion cane be had. Take the time to read the article at the link provided above. It’s very well written and informative. Even an uneducated person could benefit and learn from it. Then do a little thinking and you will be able to answer the questions you posed for yourself. If you’re still confused, feel free to email me at beckisnuts77@yahoo.com and I would be happy to assist you further.
Gideo, the supernatural is a figment of mankind’s imagination, and since it is asserted without proof, it can be dismissed without proof as well. Your delusions are not the burdens of others.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:34pm@BeckIsNuts
I did read your article. Because man figured our how to change dna structure and manipulate genes of animals does not mean evolution is fact.
It simply means Man through Science, the study of a certain topic, is learning how God created animals and how to manipulate that process.
It’s perversion to give a chicken an alligator snout, that is why Nature, God’s work, didn’t give a chicken an alligator snout.
Quit hiding from God. You never answered what started the clock…
2nd law of thermodynamics-God is real!
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:39pm@beckisnuts
LOL, see what I mean. Circular Thinking. Your group says there is no God, nothing spiritual, and nothing but the here and now.
This is done while your type speaks of karma, employs physics, and talk to dice at the craps table.
I am sorry that all you are left with here while you are cornered is to ask us to review sites that others have written.
The rest is to attack and give no basis for anything that you have said.
It is clear that what is inside of you is real. It is stirring and there is a conflict there. It all depends on which dog you decide to feed.
Who’s report will you believe? The voice that is trying to tell you that He is real and there for you? Or the voice that is just rage, anger and in the end empty?
Please stop trying to take others with you.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 4:53pmGideo, as a sane person, hearing things that are not there is not a part of my life. You should seek help if it is a part of yours. If you want to believe in a collection of stories that was cooked up by a group of ignorant ancient people, that is your burden to bear, and thankfully not mine. Off you go now.
Okie, your question about the clock etc. is an example of primitive thinking and as such has no merit. Science is closing in on information as it pertains to universes and physics, but patience is necessary. If you still cannot grasp the fact that changes in DNA are expressed by changes in organisms (living things Okie) and successful changes lead to an increase in the number of said organisms, you will need to work on that until you can. Or remain ignorant and believing in the supernatural, which does not exist and never has. People used to believe in witches, evil spirits and hundreds of different gods. Most now only believe in one god. So just one more to go and they’ll have it right.
Report Post »408 CheyTac
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 9:56pmthis ass needs to go.
When the pope gets his way with a nation you get the results of 1970 Irish Republic.
A church needs to concentrate on the spiritual, and stay out of gov’t, and bedrooms. He should go back to covering for the kiddy-diddler-priests, and get the hell out of non-catholic’s lives.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 10:08pmWhen the Catholic church demonstrates ethics and morality that is consistent, that‘s when I’ll listen to the Pope.
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on August 20, 2011 at 12:24am@Gideon612
For the love of Pete, the Pope is not God.
Report Post »Tribulation
Posted on August 20, 2011 at 1:11amJoseph Ratzinger aka Pope Benedict XVI, Hitler’s Pope — Former Hitler Youth Elected Pope
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/former_hitler_youth_elected_pope.htm
In 1937 Ratzinger’s father retired and the family moved to Traunstein, a staunchly Catholic town in Bavaria close to the Führer’s mountain retreat in Berchtesgaden. He joined the Hitler Youth aged 14, shortly after membership was made compulsory in 1941.
Two years later Ratzinger was enrolled in an anti-aircraft unit that protected a BMW factory making aircraft engines. The workforce included slaves from Dachau concentration camp.
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on August 20, 2011 at 1:34am@ Tribulation
You sir are a dispicably cold and vile little creature to refer to the Roman See as “Hitler’s Pope”. He was forcibly impressed into the German military at an age that in this country still wouldn’t legally be recognized as an adult. What heck would YOU have done in his postion, Oh Holier Than Thou Thumper?
Report Post »AmericablessGod
Posted on August 22, 2011 at 5:43amGIDEON612
Do your research as well. The Catholic Church contains all you claim it does not. We do have all the gifts of the Holy Spirit including healing ministries, speaking in tongues, etc. Maybe it would help if you would research the Church through the Church itself rather than believe the lies you’ve been told. There is no other church I know of that has as wide an umbrella as the Catholic Church. We include charismatic Catholics, Missionary Catholics, Pentacostal Catholics, and on and on. There are a multitude of Christians from separated denominations coming home to Mother Church – some entire congregations have converted recently.
For more information, call your local parish and inquire about the RCIA program. God Bless you.
Report Post »jim
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:40pmThe Pope could do a lot to change the world by urging its church members NOT to vote Democrat in the next election, like they did in the previous one. Catholics were some of the biggest supporters of Obama… now where do you stand, Catholics? As the world crumbles around us…
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:46pmGiven the Democrats stand on abortion, seems difficult to understand.
Report Post »Katydidnt
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:57pmWe were not encouraged to vote Democratic. We were encouraged to vote for life. Many Catholics are Democrats from the JFK days when Democrats were a different breed. Pope John Paul II was very much against communism and reprimanded many of the social justice priests especially in Latin America, because it was bordering on communism.
Report Post »Catholics have traditionally had an affinity for the poor and the downtrodden. We built the first schools for blacks and Indians in this country. They have built many of the charitable hospitals in this country. There are many issues where Catholics may feel a greater affinity towards the Democrats because of this. The way to win them over is to show that the methods of the Democratic party are ineffective and ultimately harmful to the poor and less fortunate. bashing someone is not usually an effective means of winning anyone over.
capitalismrocks
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:09pmJim
Other then the fake Catholic, Pelosi I know of no Catholics who support Obama, everything he’s for goes against most of Catholic Christian teachings.
If you have links to facts to prove your case, please post… We deal only in facts here on the message boards. We don’t just throw unverified claims out there
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:28pmNot this Catholic. Any critical thinking Catholic will not tow the line when it comes to social justice. Why so many believed Obama is beyond my understanding. We’re taught that abortion is an abomination. That life is precious. Social justice and liberal Catholics that entered the Church in droves after Vatican II have weaked the Church significantly. Social justice is something I don’t believe in it and is not necessary. Catholics are taught from birth to take care of their families, be charitable, and follow the Commandments. We’re not a cult and most of us love and respect the Pope because he prays for everyone and the world. I miss John Paul II. Rest in peace my Papa. I grew up with him and remember him praying for the end to Communism and his efforts to protect those persecuted in WWII. He was Polish and understood the perils of the Nazi age. I don’t think this Pope will be the one to undo the social justice that permeates the Church, but he will have to pray very hard for the world and its economic state. Europe has a new enemy and they don’t wear swatikas, but they do wear their zealot beliefs on their sleeve and think every non- Muslim is an infidel. We’re in trouble in the U.S., but Europe in in far more trouble. God help us all.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:55pmCatholic Advocates are democrats who pressure legislators not to enforce illegal immigration laws because it harms the 2nd largest Roman Catholic people group.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:08pmThe hierarchy of the Roman Catholic church defines the term hypocrite.
God said to his people, go and multiply. Yet priest and such are to be selebant and still wide spread sexual misconduct among them and between them. Sick people.
poverty.sucks
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:14pmIncludes nuns, I’ve met them.
Report Post »CatholiConservative
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 6:30amI’m a youth leader in a large Catholic church in Illinois – you know the state where obummer is from- church leadership is not allowed to tell anyone how to vote- by the IRS- & any priest worth his collar would encourage his congregation to consider life as the principal view- all many non political Catholics knew about obummer is that he couldn’t be more pro abortion if he was an abortionist!
Report Post »wesleyapril
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:10amPersonally I don’t see how anyone can claim to be a “Christian or a Catholic” and call themselves Democrat – sounds a bit hypocritical to me. Personally I believe also, that anyone that votes democrat is going to hell :)
And salvation is gained by a “personal” relationship with God – not no church – not Catholic, Episcopelian, Lutheran, Baptist – you can sit in a garage 24 hours 7 days a week – but does that make you a car? :)
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:56am@CatholicConservative
Correct, Churches can not speak out against the State due to becoming state “agencies” thru the IRS. In essence, the Church is part of the State, restrained/controlled by the State.
It is almost as if we built an image of the old Papal Rome, In which the Pope dictates legislation to State and the State silences Churches from speaking out and forces them to follow. Just like the good old days of the dark ages………Just as the Bible says would happen……
Please look and do your research behind the political aspect of the Vatican. Many many many legislation comes from the Catholic Church in Rome. The Club of Rome who divided the World into ten kingdoms pushes Social Justice, Global Warming, open borders and and global governance. It also had a hand in agenda 21. Look yourself….
Follow Jesus, not the Pope. Read the Bible and any help I can give you in understanding these truths I am more then willing to help.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:30pmI am a Catholic. Apparently protestants consider me the same as a muslim jihadist. Because they don’t consider me a Christian. WGAS. There is one Holy Roman Catholic Church but there are so many different protestant denominations from free thinkers like the United Church of Christ to Penacostal snake handlers. Protestant churches range from ones that advocate abortion and gay/lesbian pastors to churches that have members that blow up abortion centers. I guess you guys have not got if figure out yet.
I bet the Sunnis and Shiites have this exact intolerance. Boy, GOD grew some awesome haters.
Since I believe in GOD the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, I pray for the misguided protestants to find salvation. I pray the rosary every Sunday and offer my prayers for you.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:34pmMy wife and I are both practicing Catholics. She is a Democrate and I am a Republican. We both do not give a vote to a candidate who endorses abortion. We both voted Republican in the last election. I believe that any Catholic elected offical that endorses abortion and/or does not actively act against it should be excommunicated. They can go join some Protestant chuch that says it is ok.
Report Post »john1513
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 5:01pmCatholics vote on issues and not party. Voting for candidates who support abortion is morally unacceptable for a Catholic. Protestants had a fair hand in electing Obama. I would be more concerned about all voters regardless of religion who stayed home. Getting a candidate who is unifying, people want to get out and vote for, and is not Washington-as-usual will win elections.
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:36pmWhat the Pope should do is sell all the millions of dollars of artwork, smoking purse, pointy hat, pope mobile and vatican palace and give the proceeds to the poor. Once the leaders of the Catholic church begin to live like Christ, I will return to the church, until then I will live by my own concience, not theirs!
http://guerillatics.com
Mimi24
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:47pmI would agree that leaders of most denominations could tone down their luxurious lifestyles and sanctuaries a notch or forty. The sermon on the mount doesn’t have the same ring aa the sermon from the Crystal Cathedral, just to name one.
Report Post »Nick697
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:50pmRight on! Jesus wore a cloak and sandals, and rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. The Catholic Church keeps one of the richest treasure houses on the planet. Jesus called his followers “fishers of men.“ The Church calls its cardinals ”Princes of the Church.” They wear fine silks and satins, and ride in limousines. The pope lives in a palatial apartment in the Vatican, or in the Castel Gandolfo, travels in an armored Popemobile (his skin being more precious than yours or mine) and flies in a jumbo jet. He and the cardinals are surrounded by precious art and gold and bejeweled chalices, etc. Just selling off the gold and Old Masters paintings would feed the poor of the world for a long time.
And how dare does this ex-Hitler Youth lecture on morals, when hundreds of his priests – and even bishops – have for centuries sexually abused children? By the way, being convicted of child sexual abuse does not automatically, or even often, lead to a priest being defrocked and forced out of the priesthood. You see, the crime is a breach of CIVIL law, not church law. Now if a priest were to marry, out he goes.
Rayblue
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:54amAround 1973 I and some friends went to a Catholic church while the priest was away. The alter boy let us into his apartment behind the church.
Report Post »We sat on his enormous couch and watched his giant TV and cooked steaks and drank wine.
Then he showed us the treasure rooms.
Each room was filled to the top with gold and artifacts. Silver and golden statues and strangely, dozens of TVs. And these were Big rooms. It influenced my view of the catholic church forever.
It was like an episode of “Hoarding” only with jewels and precious metals.
wesleyapril
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:25amGo Nick! Not many people want to admit it – but YES HE WAS A NAZI SOLDIER – how many JEWS do you think he sent to the death camps folks? Come on you Catholics – lets talk about that :)
And YES he knew about the other priests having sex with children but DID NOTHING for the children. What a great and morally leader you have there :) lol – funny he should be yelling for “greater morality” when he is a inmoral sob. :)
Much like Cameron. lol
Report Post »chaberthy
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 10:05amJohn 12:5,8.
Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me.
I see nothing wrong with providing beautiful artifacts (e.g. artwork, statues, stained glass, etc.) to glorify God and His church. It inspires and provides an atmosphere where people can be reminded of the Glory and majesty of God.
Report Post »john1513
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 5:13pmWho’s going to buy them, you? By your logic, we should sell off and tear down every church, cathedral, and piece of art on the planet that man created for Gods glory just so you can go back to church. Not only will you be waiting forever for this, but you’ll be missing out on all the good the Church has done and is doing for civilization now and for the past 2,000 years by trading the Gospel for passing, popular, false talking points dressed as criticisms of the Church.
It‘s time to step outside of the secularist lies you’ve been fed about Christianity and the Church. The truth is there for your grasping but the popular media will not feed it to you.
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on August 20, 2011 at 1:45am@Nick and WesleyApril
Right on heretics!
Who’s this Paul of Tarsus guy to lecture us on how to be good bible thumping-fundies? He only led something akin to a mini-genocide against the early Church! Let’s talk about that!
Ah yes, the Fundamentalist quacks who love their Bibles so much that they hardly read them and then get their panties in a bunch over how Catholics don’t read theirs.
Take the plank out of your own eye, Hypocrites!
Report Post »gmoneytx
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:30pmCan’t get through to 911, some rapper wannabe must have sent a tweet and jammed the phonelines to the local sheriffs office…aarrgghhh!
Report Post »Johnnyp1958
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:29pmPeople are starving all over the globe, war is killing tens of thousands and where is the catholic church? There worried about the world monetary system, disgraceful
Report Post »johndylan1
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:11pmThe point that the pope makes about ethics in business is an important one and is consistant with capitalism. Serving each others needs is indeed the very basis of capitalism. The free flow of capital is very important to the growth of an economy and money flows best where there is trust between those who engage in commerce. Where there is mistrust and fear capital doesn’t flow and people starve.
Report Post »narcan1
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:21pmThe catholic church is the worlds largest health care provider, so they give every thing away, now they cant help any one.
Report Post »designbyinspiration
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:20amYou want to be called ‘ignorant’ or ‘liar’ or ‘arse’? Take your pick.
Report Post »Name a disaster or famine, who is the first responder95% of the time? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! They have been there for >100 years. Support infrastructure and logistics all over the world. The majority of hospitals in america and the third world are from THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! Look it up and educate yourself. Sheesh.
john1513
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 4:56pmTravel around the globe and you will see the Catholic Church is there: building and running hospitals, schools, and universities, teaching agriculture, and preaching the Good News of Salvation. Step outside the talking points of anti-Christian and anti-religious secularism. Witness the Church in action and don’t depend on the popular media to show it to you.
Report Post »gmoneytx
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:29pmI’m about ready to pass ouuuutttttttttttttttttttlvb v/;KDLjvfbdn ‘lSvb Someone call 911!
Report Post »gmoneytx
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:28pmI’m turning blue, come on hurry up!!!
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:42pmWell Obama could maybe send a letter before he goes on vacation.
Report Post »wesleyapril
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:27amAre you okay GMOney?
Report Post »gmoneytx
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:27pmHe demands greater moral ethics…hmmm, O.K.
I demand the impeachment of Obama, and Catholic Priests stop rapping small boys.
Wait, wait, I’m holding my breathe!
Swamp Yankee
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:27pm“Rapping” little boys? Learn to spell, jackass.
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:03pmYeah, those evil Catholic Rappers. Can’t make a CD that will sell! Guess there aren’t too many rhymes for Deuteronomy
Report Post »Katydidnt
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:23pmI think you are reading socialism into his statements, that is not there. He grew up in Nazi germany and is very personally aware of its threats. His father was a very outspoken critic of it, at the risk to his life and the lives of his family.
Report Post »There is a level of godlessness among many of the corporations today. If they can make it two cents cheaper in China that’s where they will go. I believe it was St. Paul who said, the love of money is the root of all evil. Not money, the love of money. Jesus said, you can either serve God or money, you cannot serve both. Don’t get me wrong, the unions have huge issues and socialism is just as driven by the love of money, other peoples. There is a level of godlessness and disloyalty towards the employees and communities where corporations dwell.
Small business tend to be the most moral and loyal, because the business is a reflection of the individual running it.
Katydidnt
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:56pmGideon over 5 million non-jews died during the Holocaust. Many of them were Catholic Poles and Slavs. According to the Holocaust Museum of the US 2579 of them were Catholic clergy. Many Catholic families risked their own lives to shelter Jews and their children.
Report Post »You will believe anything hateful said of the Catholic Church. Is hate a trait of God? Do lies come from God? When John asked Jesus to call down fire on the head of someone who wasn’t who preaching about Jesus and not part of their party. Jesus said, No one can speak well of me, and be against me at the same time. Paul urges people to stop their divisions. Is Christ divided?
What is the fruit on your tree? Is it hate? Is it lies? Is it division? Are you standing in front of the temple (like the Pharisee), saying thank god, I am not a sinner like that Publican ( Catholic)? The same measure that you judge others by gets used on you. Do you have every point of doctrine correct? Or are you just following Him by the light that you have been given.
GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:40pm@Katydidnt
You seem to overlook all of the cases in the Bible that the high places, alters, and other worship places to Baal where torn down. Most times these were commanded of God and one of them was by God. That was when Jesus was overturning the tables and kicking out those that were changing God’s House of Prayer.
King David said, “I have hated my enemies with a perfect hatred.”
I speak the way I do to warn others and most people in this group are arrogant and need to be rattled to hear anything. Being raised and sent to a lutheran school I was deceived for many years by that spin off of this cult I am speaking of.
Do some research on your own and you will find that what I have said is not even scratching the surface of what this group is about and has perpetrated.
May God give you all eyes to see and ears to hear.
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on August 20, 2011 at 1:49am@Gideon612
Amazing, you were raised a Lutheran and wound up a Fundamentalist nut. How tragic. Sheesh, what kind of crap education did you get at Sunday School? Did they even go through Church history from the Apostolic to Reformation Era?
Report Post »Johnnyp1958
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:23pmWhere is this Nazi a$$ clown when you need him? People are dieing all over the world from wars and now he crawls out from under his Roman Catholic Rock and all he can talk about is the economy? The economy ? Hay clown the world is falling apart and where is the church? This is just one of the many reasons why I don’t go to church anymore.
Report Post »Swamp Yankee
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:31pmIt‘s hard to tell what’s more flawed, your assumptions about the Catholic Church or your command of English grammar. Perhaps you should have attended Catholic schools, last time I checked they taught their pupils to spell correctly.
Report Post »RIGHTHOOK
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:11amThe venom that spews from all the “experts” on Catholicism (several that can barely write or spell) is typical. You get most of your data points from mainstream media or SNL skits. You are correct, they have had a poor record when it comes to ordaining some losers and pedifiles. Easy target (the Catholic Church) however there are murderers, pedifiles, rapists, etc. in all walks of life including clergy from all the organized faiths, police departments, fire departments and on and on. They seldom are mentioned or targeted as an issue if targeted at all.
Report Post »The Catholic Church has leadership in this Pope (they do not think of themselves as a God) that is working to eradicate and flush out the problematic Bishops and Priests. The Catholic Church is run by humans and humans are a broken race therefore imperfect. Unlike many who rant here and elsewhere but have no facts, just opinions and ignorance.
Santi
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:22pmBe ready people, the end is near. You guy’s are really rejecting the bride of Christ which is the Catholic Church. That’s ok but get your facts straight. I know you guy’s worship Mr. Glenn, wow from a holiy man to someone that is decieving you. ???????????
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:53pmI think you are a Far Left Soros Media plant. No educated Catholic would says such things. I think that the Blaze is now a media project for the Soros media group funds. Have noticed many totally goofy comments. Know the Left thinks that all conservatives are just dumb, white crackers. The Left is not only arrogant, but very wrong. Naive ? Not us.
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:46pmIt’s the other woman……….Revelation 17:4 – 6
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:58pm@SANTI……………..“Get out of her”…………………….if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.
Report Post »Revelation 18:
Ironmaan
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:21pmThe Pope clearly knows nothing of economics and should shut his mouth. What he should be decrying is the entitled mentality of the socialist societies of Europe. THAT is what has caused the economic breakdown. You simply cannot have most of society on the dole and have it survive economically. The Pope shows he is NOT a wise man; opening his mouth on topics he knows nothing about. http://guerillatics.com
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:59pmAm finding it a tad difficult to get a lecture on “ethics” from the current Pope. His back round and the recent history of the church just doesn’t work for this. Sad as the last Pope was just what we needed. Not so sure of this man. Even CHrist said to “render unto Caesar ” what was his due. Jesus was savvy and dedicated to spiritual matters. Wish the Pope would address the issue of hate and intolerance in the world and leave economics to conservatives!
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:21pmwhat i took from it, was the Pope would like the elitists to surrender some of their profit that they were able to manipulate off the backs of the middle class through devious means, you know selling your soul for the money…… satan is amoung us, the time is not for socialism, the time is for repent. do the right thing.
Report Post »Ericben
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:20pmI know alot of fellow Catholics in the Tea Party. Even though it sounds like he is advocating socialist ideas, I think he must mean it in a different way than how it sounds. Remember, John Paul II was right there with Ronald Reagan trying to bring down the walls of the Soviet Bloc.The Catholic Church has been fighting Communism for decades now. That being said, I believe there needs to be a revival within the Church. The Church needs to start taking a harder approach to the liberal catholics who do not abide by the teachings of the church. The Church is losing so many because there are no demands placed on the people anymore. I pray for a Christian revival for our nation and world every day
Report Post »mlcblog
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:46pmHe is sure not the same man as dear Pope John Paul (I am not a Catholic but am a Christian). For the Pope to demand certain actions of people? This tells me all the difference between the two. John Paul would have encouraged and motivated people to rise up to their better selves, not lecture like a parent. Inspiration not intimidation!
As for socialist tendencies, they go right along with demanding, forcing, insisting how we should act and what we should do with our money.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 3:21amThe Catholic Church is not alone in the “liberation theology” and “[Marxist-themed] social justice” that is preached by some — or even by many. There is enough trouble to go around without singling out the Catholic Church for any special level of accusation.
Report Post »Libby Tarian
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:14pmBlah Blah Blah, excathedra, Blah Blah
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:09pmThe variety of self-righteous religious posturing on The Blaze is truly astounding. Apparently, most of you have physically stood in God’s presence and return bearing His situationally specific wisdom. Jesus could learn patience, wisdom and forbearance lessons from many of you. Really inspiring stuff.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:16pmI have no respect for what controls and leads so many away from God.
Report Post »I pray God will open your eyes.
Have you heard from God lately yourself? Have you ever?………………………………………………..
MODEL82A1
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:23pmThank you, GIDEON, for illustrating my point so succinctly. Your self-righteousness is an inspiration to….. well, someone, I’m sure.
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:31pmI haven‘t stood in God’s holy presence yet, but, through the grace of God one day I will. Not through any of my own wisdom, but by the shed blood of Jesus Christ my savior. Any wisdom that I can hope to attain in this world comes from him and his word. I hope you will read it and understand .
Report Post »Katydidnt
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:33pmGideon, I hear from God. I know I have a relationship with Him because He disciplines me. He disciplines those He calls sons. I know I have the Holy Spirit in me, because of the fruit of the Holy Spirit showing in my life. Love, patience, kindless, endurance, faithfulness, generousity, gentleness, and fear of the Lord. Jesus says,” Good fruit does not come from a bad tree.” I see these fruits in the lives of my fellow parishoners. Why don’t you take that verse from Paul about no-one is free to judge another’s servant to heart. Even if you don’t agree with all of the teachings of the Catholic Church, these people love Jesus and are serving them to the best of their ability. Jesus will not reject those who call upon his name. Stop worrying about others, just make sure there is good fruit on your tree.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:39pm… hey, pope! Yer missing the point. Since this turd in our WH was elected, the socialist / marxist / commies, gays / lesbians, anarchist’s, union thugs, dimwits, atheist’s, and all around idiot’s have come out of the woodwork, and they have continued to offend the moral fabric of the American people for the last three years to the point of murder! Beyond the hard working American people there ARE NO MORALS!!! And beyond that we, and the rest of the world, now have the cult of ISLAM to deal with! Gee, how did that happen? Address the ISLAMIC problem, pope. That is what’s most important to Christianity, and all other faiths right now!!!! Again, we are watching history repeat itself with these God cursed muslims!! Stick to the POINT!! And no worries, pope … we American’s, in due time, we’ll deal harshly with the other nutballs mentioned here …
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:42pm@KatyDidnt
Followers of Jesus Christ also hear His Words “many will come proclaiming themselves to be Christ” and not to follow them.
The Pope proclaims to be Christ. That is fact. He isn’t! Fact!
The Pope teachings many opposite teachings than Jesus. Fact.
The Pope is calling for social justice. It started in the political arm of the Vatican, club of Rome.
There are many good Catholic people and they do great miraculous things but if they choose to follow the Pope instead of Jesus they are simply good and great people.
The devil is not some scary looking creature. The devil deceives and tricks.
We are to be our brothers keeper. Remember Cain and Able? Those of sharing truths are simply loving our brother. Being his keeper….
Follow Jesus, not the Pope.
I stand with Jesus Christ.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:29pm@Katydidnt
Perhaps a little background would help you in this area. I was raised in a home that was loosely church driven and then sent to an offshoot of this cult, a lutheran school. Years later after following what I was taught there things continued to be hell on earth. That was until I finally got on my knees and truly went to God.
When my eyes were opened I began to seek Him with all that I had. By doing this I also had the need to try to wake up those that have been deceived by this misguided organization.
I hope that you may see your way through to research what I have stated in my posts and see for yourself that the catholic church is as far from God as the east is from the west.
Report Post »Just walk into a catholic church and see how hard pressed you are to see Jesus through all of the idols. When you do see Jesus He is usually depicted in three different ways.
- He is either dead on the cross.
-Dead at the foot of the cross with Mary there.
- or a useless infant in Mary’s arms, while she has a hallo on her head.
In all of these renderings Jesus is useless to them without Mary first.
And here is a shocker for you. Jesus‘ Mother’s name was Marion or Mariam, depending on the language. So the perpetual virgin mary that the catholics worship is a familiar spirit and that is another reason why this deserves its due title as a satanic cult.
Greenwood
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:38pm@KATYDIDNT…………Matthew 7: 21 -23
Report Post »chaberthy
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 10:26am@ Gideon612.
Because of the fallen nature of Adam, we are ALL susceptible to sin. No religion is without a few misguided folks. We cannot judge the whole on the few. However, “…and I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (Mathew 16:18). So even after 2000 plus years, the Catholic Church still survives. Have there been misguided priests, bishops and popes – certainly, the HOLY SPIRIT calls on new people to right the ship. How many times did the Israelites fall during their 40 year journey from Egypt? Yet through God’s love and understanding of their faults, eventually brought them to the promised land. Life is a constant struggle and a marathon. Keep praying for guidance. Peace to all.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:11pm@chaberthy
If anyone took time to not take this passage out of context and actually do a word study into it in the original language they would see that this is one of the most misunderstood passages in the Bible.
Yes we live in a fallen world, but why make it worse on yourself?
What happens when a catholic sins in between confessions?
Why does the Bible say that no man can forgive sins?
So why do catholics disregard God in this manner and try to replace Him with man?
God’s Holy Spirit is what the clinical and scientific fields calls your conscience.
If your conscience tells you it is OK to confess your sins to a man whose office is in great question then we need to examine ourselves.
We religious spirits come upon a leader of a church their ego grows.
Do not get me wrong. I am not just giving grief to the catholic church. Any church that puts their existence above their original vision or above God has become institutionalized and is unprofitable for the Kingdom of heaven and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
When I say research what I have stated I mean to do this objectively and not reading church doctrine to shore up your views.
The picture of the real Church is in the Book of Acts.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:13pm@chaberthy
* When religious spirits……..
(typo)
Report Post »Johnny_neoPatriot
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:03pmSo are we saying the Pope is an advocate of socialism while supporting traditional family values? That doesn’t mix real well; especially in the USA. Maybe he needs to read some Alinsky, Marx or Mao? He could ask Obama, he can lend him a copy.
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:24pmGlobal economic policy? It sounds like the Pope has gotten solidly behind the nwo agenda.
Report Post »stonebridge
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:14amAm Catholic and conservative, but have to admit, I’m a bit creeped out about his statement of embracing a new financial global world order, and by his previous jump to embrace cap and trade to combat global warming, although he did back off a bit on that after the initial statements. It reeks of Marxism and is not social justice on a personal conscience level, but as an institutional concept–not good.
Report Post »Redistributor
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:03pmI pray for my Catholic brothers and sisters in Spain! They are going through very difficult times.
Report Post »Hopefull_2012
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:08pmThings are brutal there right now… I have heard about thirty somethings living in their parents basement (with their families) waiting for an opportunity to get a start in life (sort of like what is happening here…). Personally (being a conservative Catholic) I am hopeful that God’s Grace be brought to bare in this country and their difficult moment. As the European nations threw God (Christ) out of their cultures, it would eventually lead to their demise. :(
Report Post »ares338
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:01pmWho cares what he demands? In fact I don’t care what anyone DEMANDS!
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:00pmUntil he comes clean on what is really going on in that cult he heads he has no right to speak on anything.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:10pmAgree with you
Report Post »john1513
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 4:52pmThat “cult” is the Church of Christ. Do some reading.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:00pmPapal demands carry less weight than current US President’s demands. At least the Pope is fairly widely respected.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:06pmRespect by who?
Report Post »Could it be those that have won some of lawsuits against that cult which amount to well over a billion dollars for being raped and assaulted as children?
MODEL82A1
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:15pmWell, let’s see, GIDEON. there are an estimated 1.1 Billion Roman Catholics on Earth, most of whom presumably respect the Pope. There are about 310 million people in the USA, some of whom do not respect our current president. Now, I’ll let you do that math, although I have no confidence that you’ll come to the correct conclusion.
Report Post »Steel Awesome
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:48pm“…some of whom do not respect our current president.”
No way!
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:30am@MODEL82A1
yea, those numbers are sad. And they fall right in line with the left too. Worship, pray to, and honor mary above God.
The math that adds up is the fact that most people that will have any part in the Kingdom of Heaven are those that have left these organizations and turned to God. ” Many are called, few are chosen.”
Working in the clinical area the worst cases that I have dealt with are those that have been devastated by the catholic church. Recovering catholics are some of the most gracious people on the planet. Their love for God is so great and their thankfulness that their eyes are opened. Their new state is almost beyond what human language can describe.
Report Post »Being brought up in a lutheran church and sent to their school I know most of the traditions that are involved by these groups. I call them pew aerobics. “Sit, stand, kneel, …chant, -sit, stand kneel, chant,….blah,blah,blah.”
We are to heal the sick and cast out demons. Building hospitals all over the world is not what Jesus had in mind. I have been miraculously healed by God of many things and I am so grateful to Him for this. Demons do not need exercise or to be medicated they need to be eradicated. Using pieces of dead people in a ritual to get rid of demons only brings more of them.
I realize that indoctrination is difficult to overcome. It usually takes something rash to open the eyes. I speak pointed at times to try to get someone to open their eyes and take a good look at the
UBETHECHANGE
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:57pmI don’t trust the Catholic Church for the reason Kathleen3 just stated. They are corrupt and evil. Look at the Pope, he has dead evil eyes. Spooky.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:26pmUBETHECHANGE: The third message of Fatima was soooo horrible that the Pope fainted when he read it and requested that it not be revealed. I believe from the way that the world is being lead by Lucifer, and that your comments are an indication that it will come to pass with your help. The warning was about YOU!!!!!
KickinBack
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:56pm@ubet…
When 84 years old you be, look as good, you will not.
Report Post »Kathleen3
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:49pmRead “The Vatican Exposed,” by Paul Williams and you will never view the Catholic Church as anything more than a vast mafia-type operation hiding behind the mantle of God/religion. As a former Catholic I’ve come to the conclusion that organized religion is nothing more than a carefully orchestrated venue to control our minds and purses.
One only needs to go outside, look at all nature presents to us, and pray and honor God there – sans digging into our purses or threatened with going to hell because we did not report to church on a specific day.
Report Post »hi
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:58pmTry the Bible church! Please pray for wisdom.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:01pmSorry, pope. You aint God and you aint correct on this issue. Jesus and the Bible call us to INDIVIDUALLY respond to those in need. Thats called CHARITY. What you are calling for is redistribution of wealth and that is what got Europe into this mess (along with USA) in the first place. No one asked for your financial advice anyhow.
Report Post »RedTexan
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:08pmOh come on Kathleen… I know a ton of people that don‘t give a dime at Mass and a few that don’t think twice about skipping the Sunday obligation to sleep in or go fishing– is this welcomed, no. But they aren’t tortured or stopped at the door and told to step in line or suffer in Hell. I also was raised Catholic, rebelled, returned, and chose to study theology and Church teaching to better understand WHY the Church says what it says, why the rules are what they are. I am glad I did and I hope you find what you are looking for. As for me and my house, we will praise the Lord– Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity; in the Eucharist.
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:43pmRedtexan………Amen. I appreciated your post.
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:56pmI don‘t think the catholic church with it’s history has any moral authority.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toBOML5W4uQ
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:25pmAnd the woman was arrayed, in purple and scarlet and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her forication. And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and the disgusting things of the earth. And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with blood of the witnesses of Jesus. Revelation 17: 4 – 6
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toBOML5W4uQ
beckisnuts
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:43amKathleen3 is certainly moving in the right direction. Leave the supernatural behind completely and she’ll have both feet firmly planted in reality and reason.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2027558/Scientists-undo-evolution-create-chicken-snout.html
Report Post »Tribulation
Posted on August 20, 2011 at 8:05pmHere’s some news…Vatican Bank mired in laundering scandal
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-12-11-vatican-bank_N.htm
Report Post »hi
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:48pmThe Jesuits believe that society made people poor and charity is diddly squat. They believe the poor have a right to take it from the rich. This is what social justice is. It is pretty darn scary.
Report Post »RedTexan
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:14pmNot all Jesuits; that is the far left of the order. Don’t forget, while it is the Universal Church there are differing opinions within it. Even within the Jesuits there are varying views on Social Justice. Certainly, there is that view but there are others which are more in line with the tradition (which is from the Jewish tradition) which is that a society or community has an obligation to help (not merely provide for) the needs of the less fortunate. The idea was to lift the poor out of poverty and improve the good of the community by helping that person be a full member of the society contributing his or her gifts back to the whole.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:20pmI think all of this governmental “social justice” stuff is wrong. Jesus was concerned with our individual spiritual lif, not our monetary status. I think he wanted individuals to help anyone in need. He was not telling governments what to do! He was not requiring governments to “take/redistribute” belongings from one person and give them to someone else. While He got very testy with the sellers in the temple, I think it was more because they were defiling a place of worship with a market place atmosphere than that He was against selling/ capitalism! I think that the “social justice” crowd has misinterpreted Jesus’ message. They mean well, but they are actually causing injustice. Free will has always been an important pillar in Christianity. The governmental force of the “social justice” philosophy negates that very important tenet.
Report Post »chipmunk
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:52pmTo HI
Report Post »I agree with RedTexan, I attended Jesuit HS & University, & never recall even the term social justice never mind the liberal view of what that means. It was all about hardwork, learning, & helping the less fortunate, as in being charitable & compassionate.
And although I made some harsh (but I think justified) comments on this topic earlier, I am a strong believer & supporter of a Catholic E-school education. It provides a solid education at a good value, & a strong moral foundation which is priceless. Of course the parents & family must lead the way on both as well.
Carol Ingian
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:43pmI wonder where he stands on Israel?
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:57pmPfft.
How about this?
Greater focus on ethics in the cult that he is head of.