President and Republicans Reach Debt Deal
- Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:55pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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President Barack Obama arrives to speak from the White House briefing room, Sunday, July 31, 2011, in Washington, about a deal being reached to raise the debt limit. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
President Barack Obama announced an agreement Sunday night with Republican congressional leaders on a compromise to avoid the nation’s first-ever financial default. The deal would cut more than $2 trillion from federal spending over a decade. While the President and Republican leaders have reached an agreement, the package still needs to be passed in Congress.
Default “would have had a devastating effect on our economy,” Obama said at the White House, relaying the news to the American people and financial markets around the world. He thanked the leaders of both parties.
House Speaker John Boehner telephoned Obama at mid-evening to say the agreement had been struck, officials said.
No votes were expected in either house of Congress until Monday at the earliest, to give rank-and-file lawmakers time to review the package.
But leaders in both parties were already beginning the work of rounding up votes.
In a conference call with his rank and file, Boehner said the agreement “isn’t the greatest deal in the world, but it shows how much we’ve changed the terms of the debate in this town.”
Obama underscored that point. He said that, if enacted, the agreement would mean “the lowest level of domestic spending since Dwight Eisenhower was president” more than a half century ago.
Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid provided the first word of the agreement.
“Sometimes it seems our two sides disagree on almost everything,” he said. “But in the end, reasonable people were able to agree on this: The United States could not take the chance of defaulting on our debt, risking a United States financial collapse and a world-wide depression.”
The Speaker has sent out this document to members outlining the proposed deal.
The deal includes no tax hikes, with spending cuts that exceed the amount of the increased debt authority. According to the Speaker’s outline the deal would cut and cap discretionary spending immediately saving $917 Billion over 10 years. The framework requires both House and Senate to vote on a Balanced Budget Amendment after Oct. 1, 2011 but before the end of the year.
The framework creates a 12-member Joint Committee required to report legislation by November 23,2011 that would produce a proposal to reduce the deficit by at least $1.5 Trillion over 10 years. Each chamber would consider the Joint Committee proposal on an up-or-down basis without any amendments by December 23,2011. If Joint Committee’s proposal is enacted or if a Balanced Budget Amendment is sent to the states, the President would be authorized to request a debt limit increase of $1.5 trillion.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
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Comments (502)
drattastic
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:10pmWaiting for the total SELLOUT by the RINOs. I’m bent over and not expecting a reach around. When we see the republicans snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, pay attention to who in your state goes along with this nonsense ,we can hand them their walking papers along with the democrats in 2012.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:20pmExactly, the old guard of all sides, the communists, socialists, and progressives of all means and ways will be on the ‘your fired’ board of resignations of the ‘12 elections.
Maybe someone will write a sone for Mr Obama:
“Mr Obama where are you now….there taking you off to jail WOW!!! The people rejoice in the street…”
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:21pmNow, if they could just get the Dumbascraps on board!
Report Post »uncleherbert
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:22pmI agree, The Tea Party are smarter than that. We have to stick by our guns, so to speak.
Report Post »Deuteronomy22
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:38pmThe Tea Party has maybe 80 seats in the house, the Dems control the Senate and White House. Sorry but there is no other option than compromise unless you want the country in depression with 30% unemployment and soaring inflation. The poor and middle class will be making ALL of the sacrifice while the only people who’ve prospered in the pasty 3 decades make none. Way to go teabaggers.
TheCenturion
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:51pmThis deal IS a total sellout! A lousy $2 trillion over TEN years? What a freakin JOKE!!
Take names on the yea votes, and GET RID OF THEM.
How STUPID are these people?!!!!! Adding another $8-10 trillion in debt in the next ten years? WHERE is their common sense? Oh that’s right, they don’t teach that at Harvard.
To say I’m angry is the understatement of the year, no make that decade!!
SO, what do we do? We take the lumps that are coming, and PRAY, pray that we survive the next 17 months, and when the TEA party takes over the house, the senate, and the WH, WE DISMANTLE THIS BEHEMOTH OF A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!
WE will balance the budget in THREE years!! And we won’t throw grandma under the bus in the process.
Report Post »TheOracleOfTruth
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:59pm@drattastic — too right!! This is really a glossy-eyed sham, $900 Bil over 10 years is $90 Bil, then $1.5 Tril over 10 years is $150.00 Bil, which is a whopping $200 Bil in cuts, which leaves $1.3 in deficit spending in place over the next 10 years (Bal Budget Amend will not pass states 2/3 test). And the Obumbler gets a wild card at the end? Epic Fail. I am in shock, but at least we avert bread lines and anarchy for a few more months LOL!!!!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:03pmThank goodness the adults in the room prevailed. Now let’s see how many Tea Party House members end their political careers by voting against it.
Report Post »Obeckian1984
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:05pmof course they do
he little man sat down, quite at his ease, and yet still with a servant-like air, the air of a valet enjoying a privilege. Winston regarded him out of the corner of his eye. It struck him that the man’s whole life was playing a part, and that he felt it to be dangerous to drop his assumed personality even for a moment. O’Brien took the decanter by the neck and filled up the glasses with a dark-red liquid. It aroused in Winston dim memories of something seen long ago on a wall or a hoarding — a vast bottle composed of electric lights which seemed to move up and down and pour its contents into a glass. Seen from the top the stuff looked almost black, but in the decanter it gleamed like a ruby. It had a sour-sweet smell. He saw Julia pick up her glass and sniff at it with frank curiosity.
‘It is called wine,‘ said O’Brien with a faint smile. ‘You will have read about it in books, no doubt. Not much of it gets to the Outer Party, I am afraid.’ His face grew solemn again, and he raised his glass: ‘I think it is fitting that we should begin by drinking a health. To our Leader: To Emmanuel Goldstein.’
Winston took up his glass with a certain eagerness. Wine was a thing he had read and dreamed about. Like the glass paperweight or Mr Charrington’s half-remembered rhymes, it belonged to the vanished, romantic past, the olden time as he liked to call it in his secret thoughts. For some reason he had always thought of wine as having an intensely swee
Report Post »mils
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:08pmall but 1 of ours dd…big names too..
no one really cares what we as americans need and want..it’s all compromise at our expense.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:10pm@JZS
You are joking, right? The “adults” have just gotten US credit downgraded. Any idea how much that is going to cost us in interest on ou debt? There really is not much hope left!
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:14pmI guess Ron Paul was right, AGAIN.
Report Post »Mrtoohappy
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:16pmWe are F))ked again. Wait and see no saving
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:22pmThis is sooooooooooooooooooooooo NOT a done-deal at this point.
Report Post »d. won
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:24pmNow that obama’s plan has been agreed on, it’ll pass and his reelection is in the bag. He truely knows how to lead this world to peace.
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:33pmJZS: It was politicians acting out of concern for their political careers that got us into this mess.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:53pm@Butcher
Republicans control House. Republicans courted the TEA party vote. Compromise goes both ways. What did Democrats give, no taxes? Republicans sold out. Time for an official new party. Republicans can go to Hell.
@JZS
Fact: We would not default if we did not raise the debt ceiling.
Fact: If we don’t cut 4 trillion we will be downgraded.
As an adult how do you say it is ok to pass this debt to your children instead of taking responsibility now? That is childish thinking JZS.
How do you help a junkie? Cut off the drugs.
How do you help a alcoholic? Cut off the boozes.
All that happened was Republicans gave a bump to the junkie and then told us they had too. BS and we both know it!
Be an adult and take on the responsibility of our actions instead of enslaving our kids! WAKE UP!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:54pmCan count on JZS to make the idiotic comment on the board.
Just when I’m waiting for it… ahhhpppp…. there it is!!!
The so called adults you refer to are burying us alive.
Report Post »Disnylv
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:00pmAmen
Report Post »HankScram
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:01pmOBAMA hosed us again. As much as I detest his policies, he sure knows how to make us look like a bunch of monkeys. The cat keeps outsmarting us over and over again. We need Christie or some candidate who can play the long game – not a knee jerk reaction that ends up going down in flames. We need someone who can match wits with this guy, and so far none of our current candidates can, imo.
Report Post »HankScram
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:02pmsay what you will about JZS, he’s clearly one of the most intelligent, thoughtful, reasonable posters on the board. you have to give him that, even if you disagree.
Report Post »FedupinCA
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:08pmShare the list, and target those members in 2012. My guess is we still get downgraded, if what I see of this bill is true, it does nothing to cut real spending. Would be real interesting to see what happens if we still get downgraded after they pass this.
Losing faith in just about everything at this point…
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:09pmWhat I don’t get….is why they have to do all these close door deals…most of the time not even letting the representatives that we send to Washington in on the negotiations, only a “select” few, I understand these are our top people, but like the health care bill, we don’t even get a choice!…We The People, ya right!
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:10pm@Deuteronomy22
Report Post »Is that a Jihad turban with a fuse on top that you are wearing? I guess your picture says it all.
rayh
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:18pmamen….. lets see if i get this straight , obama gets 2 trillion immediately and boehner gets to cut 917 billion immediately over 10 yrs… what kind of idiots do they think we are. which is it do we get to cut 917 billion “immediately” or over 10 yrs.. must be that special obama math.. after the first year congress doesnt have to abide by ANY spending cuts. its obvious boehner went to public school. i wish i could use that math to balance my check book… can someone explain to me why the taxpayers are on the hook for 6 trillion dollars when we didnt want any spending in the first place. why are we responsible. the politicans from both parties should pay all this back including social security which both parties have stolen from.. but their pensions are safe and secure. has any of them demanded a 40% pay cut..
Report Post »dave928
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:20pmPatience, everyone…This deal might not be the best thing but it’s going to give us a bit more time. When we clean out the Senate and the White House in 2012, we, the Tea Party, have the best chance in recent history to get our financial house in order. Remember, the only laws that aren’t repealable are the laws of Physics and Nature.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:22pm@hankscram
JZS is an ideologue and a biggot. He hates business and the free market system. JZS may be intelligent, but intelligence is no guarantee of being right or being fair.
Report Post »tamphusm
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:33pmWell guess it’s time for a third party. With no now cuts to spending the RINOS have sold us out again. Those promised cuts for future years won’t hold up. Why don’t we just keep kicking the can until we have no can to kick. Where does it end. If you ask me, time to re-transform our government. Wipe the slat clean. What is it going to take for us as Americans to stand up and take back our country and take it back to the times of our founders. We need a GOBACK program like on computers and have it revert back to 1776.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:38pm@Seeker9
I wouldn’t call JZS a bigot but more of a button pusher to get an over reaction. Seen him do it many times.
Best way to handle JZS is with truth and facts. Everything else just seems to melt away.
JZS is actually a pretty cool person. He has his beliefs as I have mine. I give JZS credit in that he does respectfully try to debate his views and will concede when shown to be wrong. Cool thing bout JZS is he can take what he dishes out and seems to know it isn’t personal. I like debating him, it makes me look good. :-)
I also believe as I said he likes to push buttons to see the response. A test of the responders intelligence over the matter, not necessarily his view..Just my opinion. And your welcome JZS.
Hope your staying cool from the heat Seeker9.
P.S. My first post was to Deuteronomy22 who shares the same pic as theButcher.
Report Post »noangel08
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:48pmYou are right. That is exactly what the rinos did. I can’t believe it.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:58pm@OKIE
Maybe I was a little harsh with JZS, but I have about had it with the “adult” talking point. I would think they could find another one. The focus group tested millionaire, billionaire, corporate jet, holding hostage, etc. are way over used. JZS simply cannot understand that dishonest and corrupt people can be in government. At any rate, just wanted to push buttons myself.
Be prepared for the hottest week of the year coming up. Think I will stay indoors as much as possible.
Cheers.
Report Post »lionslayer44
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:17am@THEORACLEOFTRUTH we do have breadlines they are called food stamps and if we all had to stand in lines we would figure out just how bad it really is right now and that might cause unrest. also the food banks in my area are out of food, so the “breadlines” are empty. BE PREPARED COLLECT, FOOD, WATER (FILTERS), AMMO. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Report Post »RetiredFF
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:26amWe will not forget, and cannot wait until November, 2012.
Report Post »johnannegalt
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:34amThe RINOs will sell-out as always. They’re worse than liberals, at least liberals make their intent known (usually.)
Waiting for the Tea Party to become the scapegoat as they have been recently.. of course. Typical
http://markamerica.com/2011/07/31/bi-partisan-war-on-the-tea-party-and-sarah-palin/
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:39am@Seeker9
I bet JZS will be ok. I actually haven’t seen him much around here lately. I agree with you about “adult” being used to describe the ones getting us into the mess to begin with not actual adults who want to stop the mess. It is frustrating. Being a Seeker you know though as I all we can do is speak truth. Know truth in our heart and stand in it and doing so we help many others seeing us do so. Keep up your good fight.
Very hot for around here. Actually seen hotter though. After 100 it should just read “horrible”. Drink fluids. Stay safe.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:45amThe Heading for this thread should be “Rhinos CAVE, Business as usual Monday Morning”
Soros and his tribe of Communist Money Jews, are all dancing with their candles lit tonight.
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:10amIt’s time to be the party of NO. Call your reps. and tell them NO. Don‘t think I’ll be able to pay my taxes. We cannot review this bill and to my knowledge it will not be released till it going to be voted on. Sounds all to familiar. We need to replace our leadership. We need to impeach obama.
Report Post »pschlentz
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:14amI am becoming so disillusioned by the Republican Party!! I am so sick of being tricked by Politicians!! I can’t wait to cast by vote against the Republicans I hoped, with all hope, would finally do the right thing.
Report Post »You Elected Official Idiots are doing exactly what the Progressives want. They have tricked you into believing that if you “COMPROMISE” you will look good. You are STUPID, now your own party supporters are pissed at you not them!!!!! I’m am Sick of You Idiots!!!! Your true colors are in front of our faces and we’re PISSED!!!!!!!!!
Dont-hate-on-me-2
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:46amyou know i read most commments and all i ever see is oh didnt do that didnt do this oh oh oh. I dont see very many of us being construtive. I see alot of people wining and throwing fits with words like children. I really would like someone or alot of us to put fourth some postive and negative pionts of view. I want to know what the heck you all really want. rep control the house dems the senate and top chair. you are all real quick to throw people under the bus. it would be didfferent if we had both houses. make fun of me if you want all want to see is our great country pull itself out of the the mud. and if anyone offroads and plays in the mud you know how hard it is. but with enough effort and hope it can get out..We need to hold strong, if this is the best we can get then its the best we can get. the odds are against us. we need to start by voting smart, spreading the word and seeing it thru we the people got our selves into this, only we can get out. Im all for the constutition and freedom. I cant stand seeing the world my daughters are going to have to grow up in. i feel sick just thinking about it. WE THE PEOPLE are the answer no the minorty socialist and commeys. I have plenty of hope. Lets get the senate and the white house and then not just hold there feet to the fire, put them stright in. WE can do this, we are strong. Stop bickering about this and that when you know there is not much we can do with only 1 of three houses.
Report Post »go ahead and troll me to hell
Deuteronomy22
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:59amThe-Monk
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:10pm
@Deuteronomy22
Is that a Jihad turban with a fuse on top that you are wearing? I guess your picture says it all.
No it is not. It was in a Dutch newspaper and created quite an uproar. It is an image of Muhammad. I will let you try to figure the rest out yourself.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:05amCan a AAA rating be bought? $300Million is a rounding error in a trillion $ budget, but it sure would make an individual awfully wealthy! Or maybe a promise not to prosecute for past abuses? The country is wide open for corruption on an unbelievabl scale.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:23amDon’t-Hate-On-Me-2
Just would like to point out one thing that correlates to your post:
Republicans hold the House. Can the Senate pass law without the House? Nope.
If no bill was passed, the House Majority Republicans stood in truth and principle, it would of forced the President and Democrats to cut wasteful spending. Being responsible for ones self, this case Republicans, they should have held to that responsibility by sending creating bills in the house that coincides with their values. Compromising by adding spending in a bill did nothing for Republicans nor did it address the problem. In fact it only enabled the President and Democrats to continue spending, exactly what the Republicans said they stood against. What gain from this compromise did Republicans get?
Remember any spending equals a new tax. Even if taxes aren’t increased in the bill, deficit spending means taxes will have to be collected in future to pay that debt. If anything we spend more in deficit taxes as interest accrues..So by agreeing to increased spending with no tax to fund it we really are worse off and will pay way more.
A self responsible Republican will hold their party accountable first. In doing so I say the Republicans gained nothing and sold us the People out.
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 4:48amDave928 You are right. We do not control our own destiny as this time. The dems control the senate and white house and this bill was the best we can get at this time. I believe that. We must work hard during the up coming election cycle to elect people that will turn this ship around. If we can, we must vote the dems out and get people elected that understand this nation can’t keep doing the same thing we have been doing for the last 50 years. I’m willing to work on that. Are You!!!
Report Post »bates8963
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 5:00amWhat’s the matter with you people? It seems that the media and posters simply argue the line when the facts are not even discussed. Case in point…… The discussion should be that the Obama admin directing Reid and associates to expedite the collapse of our economy to enact the new “financial reform bill” framework, “Obamacare” and “stimulus” into the new global order. Understand, this is their goal…period. Everything else is is just welcome noise to deflect the end goal……….. Haven’t you people been paying attention? It is a deadly game and we are suckers….. Fundamentally Transform America… No sh**! The process continues unabated……
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 5:57amNo one prevailed @JZS.
Report Post »They all are kicking the can down the road. How far that is…yea, I don’t know. Probably not very far. The cuts necessary to begin to bring the debt under control would be so deep the public would scream bloody murder. Federal spending is so lop sided that to balance the budget you would have to make cuts in entitlements and eliminate everything else besides debt service, entitlements and defense. That’s not going to happen. And you would also have to raise taxes significantly. That’s not going to happen, at least this year. Believe me I don’t want that to happen but I know thanks to the insane spending of late it is inevitable. The Obama administration guaranteed this with Tarp, stimulus and Obama care.
The only figures that matter, or tell the true story, 75% of Federal spending is Social Security/Medicare, debt service and defense. Debt service is on pace to eclipse the latter in just a few short years. Defense spending is the smallest of the 3 at about 700 billion. Federal revenue is about 2.5 trillion and we are spending over 3.5 trillion. Our deficit is about 1.5 trillion this year. I’m not even including unfunded liabilities.
So 2 trillion in cuts over 10 years is meaningless. It really doesn’t matter who sold out, who’s a rino and who had the best of intentions. We all lost today!
jcknccmret
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 6:01amof Vourse the first place they want to cut is the Military. Damm Socialist Pigs
MasterChief USN Ret
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 6:24amThis sounds like a bad deal, I hope the Tea Party Repubs stay strong and kill the bill.
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 6:33amSorry, the figures are actually worse. So far this year medicare/ss and defense spending are, cha-ching 2.2 trillion and revenue is about 2.2 trillion. So that is all we are able to pay for this year. If we balance the budget through cuts alone all federal spending accept the 3 largest budget items above would come to a screeching halt. Parks and recreation, Dept. of Education, Interior, energy, contracts, you name it would have to go. Unfunded liabilities projected to be 114 trillion dollars over the next 20 years. At least I hope it is 20 years. Could not confirm. I assume its not 10 years and doubt it is a 30 or more year projection. Check usdebtclock.org.
Report Post »No one has the political guts to forge a road down bitter pill way and the public will pitch a fit if we were actually forced to make sacrifices. The public needs to lead the way in this. We will never get a politician that is able to fix 100 years of stupid. A politician by nature cannot fix this.
Furthermore, the responsibility for the mess we find ourselves in is in fact, We the People.
Obama_Sham
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 7:09am“JZS may be intelligent, but intelligence is no guarantee of being right or being fair.”
The former dish washer at Red Lobster is not intelligent…
Report Post »chazman
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 7:31amThe corruption will fly now since they have decided to COMPROMISE! These thieves will line their pockets knowing they will be voted out for TREASON in the next election!
Report Post »The federal government is the enemy of the American people! How do you feel now, having been sold down the river? Just askin’ …
vincere vel mori
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:15amYou keep hearing the key word, “default”. Dont believe it. They are trying to scare americans into doing what they want. How about they do what we want for a change. Stick with the tea party, we will take it back.
Report Post »SShink
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:43amTAMPHUSM’s got it 100% right!…no more of this crap!…this proves there are not 2 parties, just 1…a bunch of “drunken with power” fools running the show with no regard for the Constitution or our well being. 1 trillion in cuts over 10 years, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
Report Post »First, get the commie out of the White House…Then it’s third party all the way! Should just be called The Constitutionalist Party to make it easy to understand their mission.
RESTOREVALUES
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:55amkicked the can down the road again just far enough to get past the election maybe.
keep the ky handy
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:15amIt’s all about career politicians and term limits. We folks and the whole country will miss Tom Coburn when his time is up. Mr. Coburn won’t have a problem because he will just go back to delivering babies in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Most people blame the politicians of getting greedy – but in fact they are protecting thei career’s. Do you think these idiots would survive in an unemployment line?
Report Post »MyFreedomsMyLife
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 11:17pmGonna be happy only if the deal includes a Balanced Budget and a Flat Tax…. otherwise, we are doomed to do this again with OBOZO AFTER the 2012 election.
One thing we cannot do is allow Dems to retake any seats and they need to lose a few so we can attempt to get back our losses….. and I don’t mean tax dollars.
This train needs to get on a different track…. and the guy who can‘t seem to lead other than by executive order isn’t going to support us getting there.
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on August 2, 2011 at 9:59amLet’s all concentrate on voting out the rhinos, progressives for the sake of our country. We the People must take our country back before it melts into the world. I pray to God for his mercy.
Report Post »tckid17
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:09pmit is like an alcoholic saying he will cut down beer drinking by a six-pack over the next 5 years.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:14pmI told my wife I would lose 5 ounces by 2035…That is if she let’s me eat all I want until 2034
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:15pmIf your going to drink now is the time!!
Report Post »uncleherbert
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:24pmYea, you better spend now, it will not be worth anything latter….
Report Post »Ampleforth
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:04amWe should solve the drunk driving problem by raising the legal blood alcohol level to .30 and make the drunks promise to cut back on their drinking by a couple of shots a year.
Yeah, that’ll work. This nation could solve so many problems that way.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:40amUncleHerbert,
You got that right, NOTHING CHANGED, toilet paper here we come! Can’t complain too much though, now that all the Rhinos caved in I will double down on my ammo orders tomorrow, and buy some more guns at the show this weekend. My 401 G (gun) account has grown eryday since the OBUMMER became a candidate in 2008. And God ONLY Knows what it will be worth when the bottom does finally fall out next year.
Report Post »dscon
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:09pmwhat is this “WE” have a deal stuff, from the prez…..
does HE have a turd in his pocket?
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:12pmA turd with a turd in his pocket…
Report Post »baystateconservative
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:16pmHa Ha Ha Ha! Hilarious!
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:22pmPrez Johnson said it all: you can polish it all you want, but you can’t put a shine on sh.., er, a turd!
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:23pmThat’s recursive!
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:25pmNo…he‘s is the turd in George Soros’ pocket.
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:27pmI believe that Mr Hankey and the Nuggets are doing a show in Obamas pocket.
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:04pmYes… it’s name is boehner…
Report Post »EyeofthePatriot
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:49pmBoehner + Turd = Bent-over Tea Party member?
No wait, Obama is the one with a turd with a turd in his pocket….
I always wondered what was going on behind those “closed doors”.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:09pmIf this deal is not right for the country….WE The PEOPLE WILL come after the Government!
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:31pmWhere, oh, WHERE do I SIGN UP?!!!!!!!
Report Post »Lori_Tee
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:53pmI believe Thomas Jefferson said it best: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Report Post »I feel like my people did when they offered us treaties and we signed them and then they laughed at us and said, “We were only kidding. You can’t have any of that.”
I hope Republicans can enjoy their betrayal of the American people as much as Obama is enjoying his. Come on Tea Prty. It’s time for a trip to Boston.
mohavegreen
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:08pmThree legged cockroaches in the toilet called Washington.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:48pmthat was almost poetic.
huh?
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:48amDon’t know about “Poetic”, but damn sure an accurate picture.
Report Post »NuffSaid
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:08pmJohn Boehner- Sell-out, socio-publican. Coward. Had the moment, had the team threw it all away. Boehner will go down in history as the Obama-Com Regime facilitator. Hell the Progs will probably put Boehner’s picture on a stamp, on his knees, with Obama’s shoe in his mouth.
Today is the first day of the end of the Republican party. Remember July 31- Tea Party Birth day!
Turn out the lights, Republicans. The Grand Old Party is over at last. And good riddance.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:33pmAgreed.
The rich BUY the politicians,…..
the poor get it for ‘free’ from the politicians,….
and WE the TAXPAYORS get,……………….
Report Post »AngelThree
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:07pmShould we take whats behind Door #1, Door #2 or Door #3….. WonahWonahWonah….. You Chose Door #3 and as you can see you get two more years of Spending and Broken Promises……
Report Post »Kurty C Wipe
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:14pmYeppie, we are still broke, now go to work tomorrow!!!
Report Post »texanpatriot
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:21pmI will personally campaign against anyone who votes for this in 2012. If one million patriots agree then we can continue cleaning house in DC.
It is only a matter of time – if we not hang together than we will certainly max out our credit card together. Hope and change = hope the American people sleep through this while we change the direction of this great country.
Report Post »Grandmadar
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:06pm10 years to cut an amount that should be cut immediately and every year for the next 10 years. It won’t even cover the automatice increase that goes up by law every year. Rush explained it very well this past week. What a joke.
Report Post »They still have to vote on it unless the President just rights and EO.
llotus
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:01pmTexas patriot….they are not asleep they are catatonic. Easy way out of this mess. Lotus.
Report Post »Joe
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:06pmSo once again we reward the people who have maxed out the credit card with more credit. We deserve to lose our credit rating. These politicians act like a bunch of Fifth Graders playing I got you last. Perhaps it’s time for the politicians to grow up.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:57pmPerhaps it’s time they find a new career.
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:06pmStill haven’t heard many details. Again, I don’t disagree that we need to cut the defense budget. To do that, we need to through attrition reduce troop levels by a third or a half and literally get out of every foreign country on this planet and let the world take care of their own business. We can‘t be the world’s police force. All foreign aid has to be taken away too. My complete plan below:
The Solution
First of all, we have to understand that we are going broke. My solution: we got to recall all our military from all foreign lands (and I mean all) and cut it by a third to a half and the remaining troops main mission should be guarding the borders as they are Constitutionally demanded too. Now that would save a heck of a lot of money. Let the rest of the world take care of their own business; we can no longer be the police force of the world. Domestically, I would eliminate the Income tax and IRS and go to a National Sales Tax model. Less entities to collect from so that will further reduce the need for government workers saving more money. Also, before we even had income tax, we got most of our money from tariffs and other fees. Repeal NAFTA/GATT and bring the tariffs back. Short term, things will cost more. Long term, the jobs will return (they have too if companies want to sell their goods to us at a reasonable cost to them). NAFTA/GATT just gave them incentives to leave. That’s my take; want to hear yours. :)
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:14pmSounds great to me start with the military pull back at once
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:15pmCut the Pentagon’s budget!!! Maybe TPTB and their military industrial complex wouldn’t rush into all these needless wars. Go to war, sell war bonds to finance it.
Report Post »This is still not over. BO’s nuclear option is still possible.
lylejk
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:35pmSun Tsu (Art of War) said war should be hated/despised. If you, however, had no choice but war, then you win. Win means you destroy your enemy. I mean utterly destroy them (i.e., they no longer exist). Going to war does not mean regime change. It does not mean re-building the enemies infrastructure either. That is why our policy should be thus. If the world fears us, so be it, but we first, should not be in every freaking country on God’s green Earth. We should only defend our borders and tell the rest of the world that if you even sneeze bad our way, you will no longer exist. I’m also not saying we should ban trade. We should just add tariffs to equalize our way of life with those who want to trade with us. It will give needed revenue to the government too (tariffs). Before the turn of the 20th Century, the government got most of their revenue from tariffs and other fees and not the Income tax. Now we are in a predicament that I do not see a real solution put on the table yet. We got to get our debt under control folks. You can’t sustain $14.5T (and if they pass this one $16.6T) debt because that can never be paid off. Not even sure what I outlined will work, but at least I believe it has a chance. I would like to say more, but running out of words so I’m ended this one now. :)
Report Post »omni
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:52pmCutting the military would not be as painful as one might think, if it is done sensibly. As was the case after Vietnam the services are very top heavy. That’s where much of the fat is and a healthy cut there would also cut the makework projects initiated to provide “meaningful” jobs. Getting lean and mean might actually be a plus.
Report Post »Scaredfuzz
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:07pmI like where you are going and as a member of the military I whole heartedly agree. If you want to cut the defense budget bring the military home, the air force alone is being forced to downsize anywhere from 3,000-7,000 airmen alone because of the budget cuts but is being asked to fight two wars and in libya. Now I completely agree there is waste in the DoD and it needs to be dealt with but even still when the military leaders say we can’t cut anymore, they are serious they are now cutting muscle and bone. I personally can find very little “fat” that is left to cut.
Report Post »TheOracleOfTruth
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:17pm@drattastic – I agree we should not be the worlds police, but do consider this, we had no toe holds in Europe when Hitler hit the fan, and we were almost to the point of all of us speaking German. However, the wars need to be stopped only when we are no longer a nation at war. They did attack us first! Iraq a different matter, and we should pull out now. Afgan, stay there a bit longer and crush the Taliban, then leave. Then we need to cut entitlement spending – welfare – yes, we are now at all hands on deck. SSN and Mcare – create a real trust fund and invest in munis or tbills safe steady increases over a 45 year working career + 401Ks. Eliminate income tax and do fair tax, which would save money also by eliminating the IRS. Abolish the Fed. I agree with you on NAFTA, etc, totally, with the addition of eliminating Public Unions, I don’t have a problem with Private Unions, although they all tend to price themselves out of the market. Reduce taxes and regulations, then all of this will start to create jobs, then we collect more taxes, and use the surplus to pay down the debt. We need a Bal Budget Amendment at the Federal level and 5 or 6 year non-consective term limits for ever politician!
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:31pmAgree with both you Omni and Scaredfuzz. Like Rome, we’ve overextended ourselves. If they are indeed cutting the number of military troops, then, we can‘t be sending what’s left to hostile places where there are not enough in numbers to defend the whole either. My brother’s in Iraq (third trip to the middle east; other two were in Afghanistan) and I worry for him. We should completely wash our hands of all this mess and go home. Again, the rest of this planet needs to learn to take care of their own, and we need to learn not to bud in. As a side note, I’m 1000% pro military; trust me. Our troops need a respite and we do not need to go to wars where we are not serious about winning. I should say we should not go to war unless we adhere to what Sun Tzu said thousands of years ago. You despise and hate and do everything in your power to avoid war, but once you go to war, you win. I don’t think with our modern technology that it should take millions of troops to win a war either if you know what I mean. Our troops main job should be to protect the homeland anyway, and we don’t need all the troops we have now to do this. Again, it’s time, through attrition, to reduce the number of troops and have the remaining soldiers guard our borders. I bet you, if you have airforce pilots do flybys between us and Mexico and between us and Canada, we wouldn’t have to put up signs in our own country warning our own citizens to be careful in their own country
Report Post »Vixvenom
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:57pmYou people seriously think we are out there because we are policing? You seriously think leaving the few democracies left over there to fend for themselves would be in America’s best intrest? Not only are your plans laughably uninformed, they border on the insane…..perhaps you aren’t aware, but we are where we are because of our economic and military reach……you ready to commute via bicycle or horse? You ready to start eating only what you grow or kill? Have you any idea what effect your ideas would have? At least be realistic…..and maybe take a foreign policy course or two. Just a little taste of what you aren’t thinking about…..if not us, who? Because it will be someone and you probably wouldn’t like who that might be……and they likely wouldn’t be the most free nation on earth….please people……think.
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:24pmHere’s where you are wrong Vixvenom. It’s should never be because of our actions that other cultures/countries be democracies. That should be by their choice and their choice alone. Now, if countries decide to not to be a democracy and also decide to try to take us on, then they will no longer exist. If they leave us and our property alone, I can care less what type of government they have. We can’t force our will on other cultures/countries and expect good outcomes. That’s been our problem since the turn of the 20th Century. People need to decide what is the best form of government that they can live with. Who makes you world dictator to decide otherwise? Who made us the world dictator and police force to decide that you must be a democracy? It’s time to take care of us and let the world take care of their interest. :)
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:42pmlylejk -
Here’s the qoute you need,….
the original Latin – Oderint Dum Metuant-
and in English – Let them hate so long as they fear.
Lucuis Accius. (Roman Tragic poet, 170-86 BC)
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:44pmI like that one OneFunR6. It’s when they stop fearing that will cause the problem. Case in point: 9/11. :)
Report Post »troopsupporter
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:53amI see another Adolf Hitler rising and America standing by with blinders on. We’ll all be in lala land… I hear no evil, I see no evil. Come on guys! Don’t you remember the holocaust. NEVER FORGET!!!!! We can’t turn back the clock. Its a damn shame but it is what it is. Our military and the people of the United States are what makes this country great! We stand against EVIL and the only way to defeat evil is to go get them before they can get us. Remember 911 anyone?
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:16amDon’t you think after Castro, Noreiga, Hussein, Shaw of Iran, and bin Laden (and that’s just a short list of all the folk we sponsored over the years), it’s time we rethink our involvement around the world Troopsupporter? Trust me when I say I’m pro Military (and did some desert training myself back in 1990/91). Our presence around this planet can not be sustained as our current debt has shown. We have other means to sustain our protection and we do not need to sponsor potentially evil dictators or show our presence in foreign countries whos citizenry secretly despise us imo. It’s time to stop this costly madness. :)
Report Post »Vixvenom
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:54am@lylejk
You’re probably right, those old morons in the past probably never considered your ingenious solution…..Churchill, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, etc. You have likely dedicated much more time and thought to these issues than any of those idiots. Don’t worry about those pesky realities other people have to deal with…..just dream the impossible dream…..that will fix everything…….be sure to vote Ron Paul…..he’s sure to win this time.
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:17amActually, I’m leaning more Cain. Perry‘s in bed with the Bilderbergs and Romney’s a Rino, but, if either one of these two ultimately wins the GOP nomination, I have to support them over what we now have as a Potus (and unfortunately it won’t be the first time I held my nose extremely tight; did vote for Perot and Peroutka over the past 4 election cycles too though but currently don’t see an independent worth voting that will have a chance to oust what we have now). Besides your omission of a few other potus’es and your list of a Prime Minister to boot, Churchill wasn’t even loved by his own people that well, Kennedy made some decisions, and some allege that ended up with his assassination (he did try to rid us of the FED and that’s what some believe cost him his life), Nixon was a crook; no doubt in my mind, and Reagan wasn’t perfect either, but was the best of the bunch that you listed imo. :)
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 4:36am@Vixvenom
Are you progressive? Please think for a minute.
The USA Federal Government’s job militarily is to Americans. The rest of the World can jump off a cliff. Fact
We need no troops overseas in order to have automobiles. In fact the World wouldn‘t have many things if it weren’t for the USA. Fact.
What good has come from having our military all over the world for Americans? Nothing. Fact
Americans saved Europe and they turn to Socialists.
Americans helped Vietnam and they turned back.
Americans fought Korea and they are still communist in the North.
Americans helped many Middle Eastern countries (Afghanistan against Russians) and they attacked us on 9/11.
Americans helped collapse the Soviet Union and they are turning back Soviet.
Please point to the Democratic Republic of the World like ours that came from our military or at all for that matter. Fact, you can not.
Our Military is the best in the World. The other countries asking our help and for us to babysit them by holding bases and stationing troops there should pay us to do so. Sadly we pay them to be there.
Ask Rome how well it worked out for them over stretching their reach and military. Those people you wrote weren’t to sharp were they or did they just have an agenda? Let the UN be the global police.
Think…….
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:04pmBunch of fkj’in LIARS. Whatever it is it IS NOT what We the People have demanded.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:09pmYou honestly think you (or I) have the power to “Demand” anything of our government? Stop deluding yourself.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:18pmOnly one cure for Tyranny .
Report Post »AreYouForReal
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:18pmWhat planet do you live on pal. What an idiot.
Report Post »BeerSnob
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:40pmC’mon people. We need to organize and do SOMETHING! The 2012 election won’t change a thing.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:40pm@MODEL82A1
If they won’t listen to our voice at the ballot box then they leave us no option but the last one. And that one won’t be bending over and grabbing the ankles like they expect us to do.
And to you @AREYOUFORREAL, your statement tells me you have had a firm grip on your ankles for a long time already. Some people are willing to be sodomized by the government. Not me.
Report Post »muhamadhater
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:54pmYour right about that CRUNCH!! thIs country has got 2 come 2gether make a stand and change this country back 2 the way it should run…for starters give back the power 2 states WE THE PEOPLE live in..and then down size the government..just for starters…Then get rid of the pig polotitions that got us into 2 this mess!!! but the government has us devided, and until WE THE PEOPLE. realize this and come 2gether, all WE THE PEOPLE.. can do is sit back at our computors and b!tch and complain, whine and moan (including me) about how bad this country is getting!!!!! The sad things is WE THE PEOPLE arent doing anything but btching and complaing whining and moaning as this great country of ours is slipping through our fingers. I wish sooo bad I was a leader and had a clue on how 2 take our country back, but im not!! tho there has got 2 be someone out there with brains and intelligence enough 2 see what I see is happening 2 this country, and have a clue 2 helping WE THE PEOPLE GET OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM THESE GREASY POLITITIONS!!! Its time WE THE PEOPLE make our stand !!! BUT first we need 2 come 2gether as a nation and for that 2 happen we all need 2 find a common ground…Is that even possible?
Report Post »God bless America, Isreal and all NON muslim countries!!
jjoy
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:14pm@beersnob…
Sad, but a true statement…We write “cutsey” emails, sign “petitions”, blog on the internet, all of which the politicians are ignoring… I’ll be surprised if the 2012 election takes place at all…
Report Post »Big Book Harry
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:22pmRemeber David(people) and Goliath(government)? Gaviv didn’t see a big giant, he saw a target that was hard to miss, sometimes it’s a matter of perspective determines the outcome of any situation.
Report Post »Big Book Harry
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:32pm@model82 A1
Do you remember David(people) and Goliath(government)? Daviv did not see a big giant to defeat he saw a target that was hard to miss. Most of the time it is a matter of perspective that determines the outcome of any of lifes situaitons.
Report Post »Baberaham Lincoln
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:23pmYou have to realize “We the people” does not apply to only hardline Tea-partiers. It also applies to the other 360 million residents of the US, who are simply relieved that a compromise could be reached and a default could be avoided. Compromise being the key term here — and the entire point of our government structure.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:40pmCRUNCH, more impotent, deluded chest thumpIng. Not real impressive. If you grow the nuts to begin your ‘last option”, you’ll have my attention when your bullets are flying. Until then, you’re just another impotent blowhard
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:44am@MODEL82A1
Report Post »Impotent blow hard chest thumping….good description of exactly the way I feel sometimes venting my frustration on this blog. Since I‘m not prepared to incite insurrection complete with armed attacks against the government I guess I’ll just continue with the chest thumping for a while.
Just courious….when are you going to step up and be that leader? Don’t answer.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:00am@BaberahamLincoln
Correct. “We the People” refers to all legal Americans. That doesn’t mean you are right in believing fear tactics. We would not default if we didn’t raise the debt limit. Saying we would is a blatant lie. Could we default, only if the Treasury didn‘t pay it’s debt loan which per the Constitution is liable to be paid first.
Those wanting to continue spending lied and said a default will occur because they don’t want to stop spending on entitlements. In fact, they want to increase entitlements accruing more debt. They also lied about Social Security which is funded by a social security tax collected separately.
Don’t feel relieved because this fixed nothing. If anything it assured we will default in the short future as we added Trillions to the debt that we do not have. Im unsure how your relieved.
The TEA party is right and the Republicans sold them out.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:09am@Model82
If you feel we can’t demand anything from our Government why do you speak at all?
By practicing in free speech are you not demanding, thru action, your government grant you free speech?
Thinking we aren’t to demand anything from those who work FOR us got us into this mess as We the BOSSES fell asleep and the SERVANTS ran free.
I’m awake now and waking up everyone I see. Hope you wake up soon and demand your SERVANTS you pay for to act as such.
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:03pmEveryone is declaring victory but i just dont understand how spending cuts 10 years down the road is going to have any effect on the 17 trillion dollar debt which will be racked up on Jan 2013
Report Post »drhopkins
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:05pmDoes anyone else think it is crazy that the economic solutions of our time is to increase our debt???
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:08pmIt’s a bunch of BS. They think we are stupid. I’m tired of being stupid in their minds. They think they can throw us a bone to satisfy us while they continue destroying or childrens future and wrecking the country.
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:17pmThe goal appears to be to rack up so much debt that the only solution is tax increases on everyone with a final result of one class of people…all poor except a few people living the good live….a few people of the government’s choosing.
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:18pm@ drhopkins…
The rinos have yet to “figger out” that the real “fix” for our financial problems is to stop obama’s obscene spending spree…
Report Post »TulsaYeeHaw
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:03pmDon’t insult us with your facts!!
Report Post »TulsaYeeHaw
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:07pmand once again my post doesn’t go where i put it.
Report Post »NJGal
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:02pmI. Am. Just. So. Sick. Of. All. Of. This…………… We all knew they would reach a deal – as Rush says, grab your ankles!
Report Post »beckbotsrlame
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:57pmLimpballs can not even see his ankles let alone grab them,except maybe when he is getting pounded by his beard.
Report Post »Bonesaw
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:02pmWhy do I have a baaaaaaad feeling about this?
Report Post »Delta D-5-3
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:12pmBecause this deal absolutely SUCKS!! ARE THEY KIDDING??? We are SOOOOO SCREWED!!!!
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:15pmBecause you have a brain that works
Report Post »theimhoffs1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:02pmit’s not enough we will still lose our AAA credit rating. politicians are corrupt
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:57amIt’s not that it’s not enough it’s that it’s much too late. If Congress had just raised the debt ceiling last month without manufacturing a crisis, our credit rating would be secure no matter how bad the deficit was. It’s not the debt that’s going to get us downgraded, it’s the fear that Republicans will pull the same crap next time.
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:01pmWhy do I have a bad feeling in my stomach?
Report Post »DDD
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:01pmAll it cuts is $1 Trillion over 10 years. It does NOT reduce the deficit and with no balanced budget amendment, its pure trash. Why can’t I just live my life having credit card companies just up and upping my credit limit while I blissfully buy whatever I want and live however I want? Why should I (and the rest of the country) pay for the government’s follies!?
Report Post »Jimbo
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:00pmDid we sell out again. I will have to see the details.
http://www.therangersclub.com
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:02pmHere comes the wall street rally-THIEVES…
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:06pm“I will have to see the details.” Lol, JIMBO! The biggest negative of the Tea Party movement is convincing nobodies like you (and me) that we somehow have any say in “the details”. Stop deluding yourself.
Report Post »Delta D-5-3
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:08pmYES WE DID!! Just look at this “agreement”! Did we NOT want change in Washington?? Let’s just RAISE the debt limit by TRILLIONS, cut defense and MAYBE save money over the “long hall”??? You must be friggin kidding me!! This is NOT what we voted for last November!!!
Report Post »saviorammo
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:00pmGame, set, light a match!
Report Post »FLYOVERSTATEIOWA
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:59pmMore of the same….posture, posture…posture…..CAVE! I fail to see the value of these people. Might have to start my own country!
Report Post »flagbearer
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:51pmI’ve been saying that for a long time! Did you ever wonder what the liberals/progressives would do if all the conservatives could just disappear into another dimension and start their own republic? I wonder how long the libs would survive without conservatives to support them? Who is John Galt?
Report Post »Smug
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:57amI have an idea, the conservative states secede. Liberals go live in Progressivestan or what ever Marxist, Communist name they might want to give their (country) state. They can then pledge allegiance to that little “clenched fist flag” they all seem to admire. And the states that secede can remain the United States. Problem solved!…………..MSSMUG
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:58pmJust to clue most of you in (since I read so much Constitutional ignorance here today), the “fact” that the President and Republicans “make a debt deal” DOES NOT make law.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:58pmOnly time will tell whether we have a deal or not.
Report Post »coryf076
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:58pmCan’t wait to see what this looks like….read the fine print!!
Report Post »afwifemomof4
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:57pmhow much did they raise the debt limit by??? and how long for the 2T in cuts to take place?
Report Post »jetmech568
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:02pmI wonder how much they had to sell their souls
Report Post »Sicboy
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:03pmSnif snif, you smell that America? Smells like victory. For the politician. We‘ve been sold a bag a poo and told it’s a victory for all. Only the big banks and politicians will prevail. Please follow @JamesGRickards , he will teach everyone what’s going on.
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:10pmAs I read it, 900 billion (approx.) in raising the debt ceiling and 2 trillion (approx.) of cuts spanning 10 years. It’s all just b.s. like everything the congress and white house does.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:14pmWhat a joke. Republicans are a bunch of sissies.
If you spend more then you make, you will continue to have a deficit. A tax that our children will have to pay. How hard is that to understand…..
This does not fix our problem, only delays it, again.
Gains from this plan are:
More debt
More spending
Unbalanced budget
Time to stand. Republicans are happily sitting in the passenger seat while progressives drive towards the cliff. Republicans don’t say STOP your gonna kill us, they say slow down a little from 100-95 mph and don’t even address the cliff coming up. NO HONOR! PROGRESSIVE LIGHT!!!
Progressives have eaten both Republicans and Democrats and they showed us just that by avoiding addressing the problem.
Taxed Enough Already!!!
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