President Obama Grants Executive Privilege to Eric Holder Over ‘Fast and Furious’ Documents
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(The Blaze/AP) – President Obama has granted Attorney General Eric Holder’s request to assert executive privilege in regard to documents pertaining to Operation “Fast and Furious.”
Holder recently agreed to provide additional subpoenaed documents to members of Congress, including Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), however, the latest move indicates the attorney general has no intention of making good on his promise.
In a letter to President Obama, Holder wrote, “I am writing to request that you assert executive privilege with respect to confidential Department of Justice (“Department”) documents that are responsive to the subpoena issued by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform of the United States House of Representatives (“Committee”) on October 25, 2011. The subpoena relates to the Committee’s investigation into Operation Fast and Furious, a law enforcement operation conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (“ATF”) and the United States Attorney’s Office for the District of Arizona to stem the illegal flow of firearms from the United States to drug cartels in Mexico (“Fast and Furious”).”
“The documents at issue fit squarely within the scope of executive privilege. In connection with prior assertions of executive privilege, two Attorneys General have advised the President that documents of this kind are within the scope of executive privilege.”
Read the full letter here.
The House Committee on Oversight and Government reform is expected to take a vote on whether or not to charge Holder with contempt today at a 10 a.m. meeting.
Issa responded to President Obama’s decision to grant the attorney general executive privilege over documents relating to Operation “Fast and Furious.”
“The communications in question must relate to the quintessential and non-delegatable presidential power that requires direct presidential decision making. The privilege is limited to the core constitutional powers of the president, such as the power to appoint and remove, the commander-in-cheif power, the sole authority to receive ambassadors and public ministers and the pardoning power,” Issa said referring to the instances where executive privilege can be asserted.
“I claim not to be a constitutional scholar but the house is working to figure out what assertions may in fact arrive and we will take notice of them.”
Issa also called the assertion of executive privilege “untimely.”
Watch some of Issa’s statements at the hearing:
Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.) said he “hopes the American people will see this as a witch hunt, as political activity and not the legitimate interest of getting to the truth.” Watch his comments here:
During the hearing, Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) argued invoking executive privilege brings into question whether or not Holder and Obama both were aware of Fast and Furious.
Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) called the contempt vote a “witch hunt.” She also later argued for stricter gun laws.
“I am horrified that you are going forward with this contempt charge when the President of the United States and the administration has invoked executive privilege,” she said. “The Attorney General is being attacked for protecting documents that he is prohibited by law from producing.”
Judge Andrew Napolitano on Fox News made the argument that the use of executive privilege may be a lose-lose situation for the attorney general.
“If the President was not personally involved, executive privilege does not apply. If the President was personally involved, and they want to argue that fighting drug gangs at the border is a matter of sensitive national security, then they at least have an argument for executive privilege but that would be at odds with what Attorney General Holder has already testified to under oath,” he said. “Then he’d be in a lot of hot water.”
Napolitano’s assertion comes near the end of this Fox News report:
Obama asserted executive privilege for the first time Wednesday. He applied the presidential power to withhold documents a House committee is seeking in an investigation of a flawed gun-smuggling probe called Operation Fast and Furious.
Presidents have the right to invoke executive privilege to preserve the confidentiality of information and documents in the face of legislative inquiries. The White House says presidents have asserted that privilege 25 times since 1980.
Here’s a look at how many times each president since Ronald Reagan have asserted executive privilege:
President Barack Obama: 1
President George W. Bush: 6
President Bill Clinton: 14
President George H.W. Bush: 1
President Ronald Reagan: 3
The Associate Press contributed to this report.
This is a breaking story and updates will be added.
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Comments (514)
KEA
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:16amThis may well be the turning point to ensure Obama is thrown from office in November. The people are waking up and are not going to tolerate the Dictatorial actions of this sleaze.
Report Post »Unbelievable
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:28amIt won‘t mean squat if the MSM doesn’t report on it… as no one will know unless they are smart enough to seek other news source than the normal MSM outlets.
Report Post »shogun459
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:28amObama is ignoring Congress because they won’t do what Obama wants.
Report Post »What makes you think he will leave office if the American People don’t vote the way he wants?
WIjoyzie
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:30amYeah… people are waking up. Think the MSM will report this… don’t hold your breath.
Report Post »SocialistSlayer
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:35amThis So Called President needs to be impeached from office and tried for Treason. This is what happens when people vote a Communist into office. Obama is the biggest Liar in our countries history! He is pure evil.
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:36amYou’ve got to wonder, what are they trying to hide? More to F/F then they want to admit I bet.
Report Post »Sue Dohnim
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:41amA double down on TYRANNY,,,
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:43am@Socialistslayer, You’d never get a conviction in Harry Reid’s Senate.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:48amAgain, let me show you my shocked face…..
Report Post »1947
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:49amAmerica you can forget November….. His next move is to take OVER all the STREETS
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:51amHolder testified under oath that Obama knew nothing of this. So this dictatorial edict means either Obama knew and is thus responsible for the murders, or Holder perjured himself.
These people are not only corrupt, they‘re thug amateurs who don’t know how to stop digging their own graves deeper and deeper (metaphorically speaking).
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:52amObama has to do this Holder has alot of dirt on Obama.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:55amDid anyone notice the 14 executive order by Clinton…..How many were used to protect Reno from the 52 murders she and Clinton were responsible for in WACO TEXAS. Our government has become our enemy.
Report Post »Redd
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:56amcorrection: soetoro grants usurper commie privilege.
Report Post »Live_Free_orDie
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:58amWow…these criminals will stop at nothing! We have a dead Border Agent who was serving his country and the highest officials in the land don’t want to get to the bottom of what happened? If I were a Federal Law Enforcement Agent right now…I’d be very afraid, because you are just pawns, and no one has your back!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:58amI agree, this will be the point when Obama goes into freefall. The enemedia wont’ be able to hide this once the contempt vote against Holder is enacted.
Obama’s entire life is a litany of fabrications and obfuscations. He keeps his college records sealed and now he’s using the office he infests (yes..I said infests) to hide his complicity in F&F.
A slimier, more distasteful individual you’d be hard pressed to find than Barack Hussein Obama.
Holder on the other hand is nothing but a party hack. He knows Obama’s about to be thrown out of office and he wants to be seen as a good party apparatchik for future positions with the party..even if it means a contempt vote against him. He’s willing to take one for the team and hide his complicity in F&F at the same time. Chicagoland at it’s most detestable.
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:59amWhat a wonderful opportunity to assert that the White House orchestrated the whole operation that resulted in the deaths of innocents solely to generate gun violence in order to advance gun control legislation. With everything sealed, they can hardly prove otherwise. And they could hardly argue that there is no link, because that link would be the only justification for privelige being invoked. We know it’s true or Obama would have thrown Holder under the bus in a heartbeat. Check mate.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:09amThe ONLY way that Obama can invoke Executive Priviledge in this case is if Obama KNEW about what was going on and okayed the AG’s actions. Executive Priviledge can not be granted to just any Cabinet member or Federal employee simply because the President wants to do so. There must be a matter of national security, defensive strategy, or direct connection to international business or international communications. He can not just pull it out of his hat whenever he doesn’t want to turn over information to Congress (the Constitutionally delegated entity to CHECK the Executive Branch) that might prove members his appointed knew about and acted in a criminal manner.
This is CRAP. Forget the MSM! Facebook this, twitter this…email this… WE THE PEOPLE MUST DEMAND IMPEACHMENT!
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:15amAt this moment the hearing to vote is live on Fox News. If you really want to get angry well then watch it now.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:16amI hope you’re right, but I fear the average American is not paying attention.
Report Post »klammey
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:16amThere are people, and I know some, that will vote for King Obama no matter what he does because they don’t really know what he does. They don’t watch or listen to the news. And, if they do, it’s the Obama Network, ie, MSNBC. But, they can tell you all about American Idol and the Bachelor. They try to start talking about how poor women won’t get health care or birth control and when I start telling them the truth, they don’t want to talk about it anymore. Too bad….I just keep on talking. If they don‘t want to know the truth then they shouldn’t start with the lies. And, mention the Muslim Brotherhood! They think they’re like the Masons or something, Dumb and lazy!
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:31amThis only PROVES to Me just how corrupt this Administration
Report Post »really is… DOJ has had over 18 Months to provide the doc’s
needed to sum up this case.. Justice for Brian Terry..PERIOD !!
Terry’s MOM is correct when she called Holder ” A JOKE and a
COWARD”.. There are no words to describe My feelings toward
Obama and his Team of Misfits…..November can’t come soon
enough !!!……..One truly disgusted Arizonan…..
OORAH, Officer Terry!! our thoughs and prayers are with you and
your Family. May God keep you and Bless The Terry Family..
BumperMorgan
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:42amHe will not be thown from office, because there will be no elections. Time for God to flush this toilet and start over again.
Report Post »Saving_the_Republic.com
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:42amThere is absolutely no doubt in my mind the Emperor gave the orders for this program. The purpose of F&F was to create a crisis to UNDERMINE the 2nd Amendment. The Emperor has been abundantly clear that he would not go after Americans 2nd Amendment rights, but his actions as a Senator and POTUS show otherwise. He has always looked for opportunities to legislate/ regulate around it.
Report Post »Sue Dohnim
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:47amRemember this line,,,
“On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial “large magazines.” Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” she said.
“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/over-a-barrel-meet-white-house-gun-policy-adviser-steve-croley/2011/04/04/AFt9EKND_print.html
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:00pmNow We All know that this goes clear to the White House..
Why assert executive privilege if it doesn’t envolve the WH ??
Report Post »texasbeta
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:10pmHow curious…so when your previous President and his VP committed treason and outed a CIA agent’s identity, putting hundreds of operations in danger, and claimed executive priv in that nobody from the executive branch has to even show up….that was cool, right? You people are the most hypocritical element of any society I have ever seen or studied. It is really remarkable. Not to mention the fact that this program is exactly the same as Bush’s Wide Receiver program except that Obama actually prosecuted people.
Report Post »theblazerunner
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:13pmSue Dohnim,
dam nice…thanks
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:15pmIt means the stink goes all the way to the top, and O doesn’t want himself incriminated by a lacky.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:17pmThe libs and progressives, aka anti-gun people and anti-second ammendment people were using fast a furious to try and take away our right to bear arms. They just got busted, and now the cover up is on. You remeber hearing every other day in the news before fast and furious blew up in their faces hearing about stronger gun control, assault weapon bans, longer waiting periods, limits on how many guns a person or family could own. All of that stopped once they got busted. Time to fire Holder, impeach obama and the rest of the liberal progressive aka democrats and rinos now.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:19pmDO NOT FORGET: This was a PLOT to support GUN CONTROL and to LIMIT the 2nd Amendment of the CONSTITUTION!
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:22pmHouse Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, raised another question after the president invoked the privilege.
Report Post »“Until now, everyone believed that the decisions regarding ‘Fast and Furious’ were confined to the Department of Justice. The White House decision to invoke executive privilege implies that White House officials were either involved in the ‘Fast and Furious’ operation or the cover-up that followed,” said Boehner’s press secretary Brendan Buck. “The administration has always insisted that wasn’t the case. Were they lying, or are they now bending the law to hide the truth?”
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:41pm@Texas
That’s called knocking down a straw man. You posed a question that you allowed no answer to, that may not apply to anybody, and used it to indict. On the other hand, you did nothing but deflect from the point of the article, using a tactic known as Argumentum Tu Quoque. You folks are going to have to go into full banshee scream, flail and destroy mode now to keep this one under wraps. And you’ll fail.
By the way, Bush was a failure of a president and did an awful lot of bad things that I vehemently disagreed with during his tenure. So your strawman is now rendered impotent.
Try addressing the article. Or does the idea of innocent blood on the President’s hands not compute with you, as long as it’s “your President”?
Report Post »Kankokage
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:43pmTexasbeta: So your defense of your man-god is “bush did it too…kinda” Absolute failure. Hundreds of people have been killed, and there was no means put in place to actually track these guns (unlike Bush’s “thing”). Admit it: this is a big f’ing deal, and you are scared your man-god will be implicated with murder. Utilizing Executive Privilege to protect presidential communication is one thing, but using it to coverup potentially criminal evidence for a DOJ official? Seriously.
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:46pmThe Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I’ve just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.”
―Wilhuff Tarkin
Report Post »SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:55pmOne very important key element to true narcissim is the concept that you are above the law because your knowledge and motives rise far above the common man. Therefore, certain archaic and base laws are to be broken when someone with something so important to accomplish needs to be done. I think I would use Obama as my central character in that thesis….
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:59pmTimeline of events:
1871 – U.S becomes a Corp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOixE2ZFYtE
1913 – Corp. is broke and turns to the Global Elite ( Federal Reserve PRIVATE BANK ) for a loan.
Income tax begins.
1933 – Corp defaults, Declares Bankruptcy and surrenders ALL collateral which includes Government Branches, land and PEOPLE
1936 – The creditors of the bankruptcy need a Bond for their livestock. Social Security begins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
1937 – The International Banksters built Ft. Knox to hold all the gold they seized from America.
1944 – The lien on the bankrupt “United States of America” was transfered to the IMF and World Bank.
http://www.teamlaw.net/history.htm
1945 – The World bank and IMF create the United Nations, Which is the governing body of a One World Government.
1992 – Under Executive Order 12803, America is for SALE !!!! This was the SAME YEAR AGENDA 21 emerged.
http://www.rense.com/general86/nomis.htm
This explains why the Department of Justice is a PRIVATE COMPANY !!!
http://www.manta.com/c/mmcmldj/united-states-department-of-justice
This Country has rapidly deteriorated since then 1992.
2012 – Panetta Admits that the President follows the orders of the UN, and NOT congress !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSzZAOQnYFI
2012 – Americans Still believe they have representatives in Washington and that there is a difference between DemocRATS or RepubliCON Politicians.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:00pmIf you want to go to that well TEXAS…Obama’s White House has been leaking sensitive national security secrets like the “Stuxnet” virus that hit Iranian centrifuges for his political gain. These leaks have far more serious repercussions than the Plame incident you’re trying to hide behind.
See how this works TEXAS? Obama‘s running out of squirm room in barely four years and you liberal gits can’t cover for him any longer.
Report Post »inthealpine
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:04pmSomeone needs to make an ad targeted at Latinos citing that Obama/Holder participated in the mass murder of thousands of Mexicans with F&F. It’s about time conservatives take the gloves off.
***Just heard an ABC report on the radio and they took a shot at Obama on F&F. All it will take is one MSM outlet to break ranks and this house of cards is over***
Report Post »Azathoth
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:10pmIf they re-elected Bush after six, they’ll ignore his one.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:20pmThis is the last straw in many bales that will break the camels back! Congratulations, President Romney!
Report Post »TxHoboHank
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:36pmObama and Holder taking this stance could only construe culpability in this disgusting planned attack on 2nd Amendment Rights that ended up causing hundreds of deaths including our own Border Agent Terry. Innocence would be proven by opening up to questions and requests from an oversight committee, not by invoking executive priviledge. The Alphabet Newtworks that only carry “approved” Leftist rhetoric shamefully fail to bring this information to the American public.
Report Post »Which rat will be the first to abandon the sinking ship? NBC? MSNBC? For those corporate sponsors backing these Communist supporting stations: When are you going to realize that your investment is at risk and pull support for them?
WatchingThePuppetShow
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:39pmYou are under the assumption that our presidents are elected and not placed. Dreamer….
Report Post »Plan B
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:47pmAs frightening as this whole escapade is, no one is talking about a ATF program called “gangwalker” where as the ATF armed US gang members. Why has this been forgotten so quickly? Covered up?
Report Post »Providing guns AR-15, AK 47 ets to the gangs in Chicago through straw purchases in Indiana to specifically be used against US citizens.This is an absolute attempt to sway the public view on gun ownership. These people need to be held accountable. The press dropped the ball on this one, I only saw it on Michelle Malkins site back in September.
mils
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:50pmit is interesting hat they actually tried to blame all of this on Bush…obama has a lot to answer for , even more now.
Report Post »ALSO…ALL mexicans should be aware that obama didn’t care that he was sending guns to mexico …to kill your people. yeah, he‘s crazy about y’all!!! ahahahahaha
TH30PH1LUS
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:33pmHolder has American blood on his hands, and Obama is willing to do anything to protect him.
Will our nation keep sleeping?
Report Post »shortnsweet
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:36pmObama’s decision shows NO COMPASSION and NO JUSTICE for the 200+ Mexican citizens and the US agent that were killed as a result of Fast and Furious. Engaging in a little CYA is more important than justice.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:40pm@TexasBeta – so your defense of Obama is that since Bush did it, then its ok? So you are saying it was ok for Bush to do it …. is that what you mean? You supported Bush invoking executive privilage to hide his actions? Or is this another Alisky style tactic to deflect from the issue at hand since there is no way to defend the invocation of executive privilage?
I would like to see you or ANY liberal defend what the Obama and Holder have done without the ‘Bush did it’ argument – give it a try. Unless of course you supported Bush in the first place … I know I didn’t.
Report Post »MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:53pmYou may also find they were also supplying guns to the NBPP.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:18pmWe can read between the lines on this charade.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:32pmCome on folks – let up on Obama. I thought Holder would be happy with his name on Obamas Pardon list. I’m sure he decided and told Obama that if he went down, Obama would go too. I don’t blame Holder – going to prison and being in a cell with Big – Big – Big John as a cell mate would be bad. I noticed Clinton used Executive orders 14 times – and now all those same people are working for Obama!
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:49pmthis is another bogus move. the president cannot extend executive privledge to anyone. he can claim it himself but it sure as h-ll does not cover holder.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:53pm1947… if obama tries to take over the streets it will make the civil war look like a garden party.
Report Post »I.Heart.America
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:00pmI’m not defending President Bush but this is way bigger than anything he did. President Bush’s program was much smaller and had the full cooperation of the Mexican authorities.If President Obama thought this program was wrong then he could have stopped it. He chose to grab it and make it what it has become today and on his watch.
Report Post »essay
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:10pmshogun459, I‘m afraid you’re close to the truth.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:15pmThe contempt thing is being covered even by msnbc. It would be hard to cover the one without the other. I see this as an admission of guilt. If you have nothing to hide then show them.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:16pmAdmission of guilt?
Report Post »HoneyBager7x7
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:56pmHaha, nothing new under the sun.
Report Post »Backgammon
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:45pmSadly, they will say it is a Witch Hunt and keep slobbering all over Obama.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:26pmThere aren’t enough balls in the entire GOP House and Senate to even suggest impeaching anyone, most especially against the monkey pulling their strings.
Report Post »PROSECUTE_PUBLIC_SERVANTS__FOR_CONSTITUTIONAL_TREASON
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:12pmAmerica spoke 3.5 years ago. Americans voted for wicked, evil, vile, and tyrannical leaders. God in his justice gave America’s the evil they voted for. If you believe the lies and drink the cool aid then you deserve the evil. Americans are not waking up to vote for moral leaders and in time your children will be prisoners interrened in FEMA camps as a result.
Report Post »Christians are the worse for not being salt and light. Christians have the Bible to discern evil yet the majority of Christians sucked down the cool aide. Blacks were also sucked in wanting to vote for color instead of morals. In the end the black voter got his colored president a vile, evil black color of sin.
Romney will be no different. The voters dispise the only true freedom presidential candidate in 40 years. RP. No problem with God. America can continue to be destroyed from within. The voters have spoken.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:16amOnce again the dictator in chief has spoken; sweep in and take up Holder, Obama and all of his adminsitration, and bring them to trial for their continuing crimes. Obama is growing more and more dangerous and out of control by the hour. His insanity continues to grow as well.
Report Post »Plan B
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:20amExactly!
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:28amCome on now…he has to protect his boy!!!!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:28amYes Snow, he is growing more dangerous and his role as Dictator is being well established. This is why I still have doubts that he will ever relinquish the White House and the power that goes with it.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:39amagree. this admission of guilt by the dictator will go unchallenged again by the spinelss congress and senate. we the people have been defeated.
Report Post »acpd1461994
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:41amI agree completely, most people don’t realize just how dangerous he has become. I have several highly educated friends who voted for this clown and have since seen the light and yet I know of a few more who basically think the sun “rises and sets” on the liar-in-chief…..they truly drank the kool-aid.
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:00amHe’s not protecting his “boy” he’s protecting his backside.
Report Post »tweetybird
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:08am@ momrules……It is funny you say that he may not be willing to relinquish the white house. I have thought that for a long time. I don’t trust this president. I haven’t trusted him since he was running for president.
Report Post »fatsomann
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:52amWell said.
Report Post »sweetgold
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:42pmMy real concern about obama isn’t executive privilege. Or any other illegal or evasive thing he has done in office to date. It is obvious he does not care about any opinions except his own and the yes men (and women) he has surrounded himself with. My concern is… what is this guy going to do starting on November7th when he wakes and and realizes he is no longer going to be the prezzz after Janurary 20, 2013. Wow, do I look forward to that date !!!!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:54pm@Sweetgold:
Two probabilities come to mind for me…
Open declaration of his dictatorship
Report Post »A final economic scorched earth to bring everything down he can
HorseCrazy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:15amcriminals. this is an admission of guilt. holder whatever happens you will be judged and remembered as a crook, liar, and accomplice to murder. this is worse than anything I can remember between this and the leaks these crooks need prison time. these are high crimes against america. oh it must be good to be king. november cannot come soon enough.
Report Post »texasbeta
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:12pmInteresting, so when Bush and your Republican cronies invented this program under Operation Wide Receiver that was okay. But when Obama renews it and actually prosecutes people, something Bush didn’t do as he just sent guns in and walked away, it is criminal huh? I love the hypocrisy. You are like little children, so easy for the rest of us to point and say…”see, this is what people can become. Learn your lesson.”
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:46pm@Texasbeta
Oh, so sad, still doing it I see.
Here’s some education, attend to it.
“Tu quoque ( /tuːˈkwoʊkwiː/),[1] (Latin for “you, too“ or ”you, also”) or the appeal to hypocrisy, is a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent‘s position by asserting the opponent’s failure to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. This dismisses someone‘s point of view based on criticism of the person’s inconsistency, and not the position presented.[2] Thus, it is a form of the ad hominem argument.[3]”
Your poorly chosen rhetoric 101 strategy has failed. Choose another course or rightly be mocked by others. Your choice.
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:50pm@texasbeta
Report Post »Even if Bush started the program and all things Bush are EVIL to the King, why did the new monarchy keep and expand the program? Barry could have ended it and blamed BUSH and helped slow the killing in Mexico, being the global King of hope and change. What the hell? Things went much further legally with Abramoff and Scooter Libby who both went to prison and not one gun was walked or used in the killing of American and Mexican citizens!!!!! C’mon, now, this Kenyan is covering for Holder and himself. This case could bring down the King at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and they know it. Barry has called out Bush for using executive privilege too much and here he is using it himself. Wow. The rotting stench of D.C. is so bad we gotta burn more mesquite here in Texas to purge the smell of Obama pestilence.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:00pm@Yiska
Precisely correct. If a person continues a policy of a predecessor, that explicitly implies agreement with said policy. Lest we forget, there was a huge media blitz telling us about all those awful loopholes that were magically allowing Mexican drug cartels to buy severely overpriced semi-automatic “assault rifles” that they were using to kill people. No explanation was given in those news reports, now that I reflect, that explained why drug cartels would buy $1200 semi-auto rifles in America instead of $200 full auto underground weapons in Mexico. Remember all those blaring news stories, the kind we always associate with pushes for gun control? Remember how they disappeared immediately when “fast and furious” came to light?
This entire fracas is shameful.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:37pm@TexasBeta So you love hypocrisy but hate the truth. Is that correct? Was Brian Terry murdered under the a. Bush administration or b. the Obama administration? We are all hypocrites including you if we as American people want the truth but our government denies us by obfuscating and using executive privilege to protect an obvious attempt by our so called fair attorney general and we do nothing. Add to that the leaks to New York Times without concern of safety to we the people and another attempt by same Dept. of Justice to again deny us truth. Oh yes if you remember Nixon this all sounds so familiar. Seems you in your eagerness to blame others you don’t want to know the truth. Pity.
Report Post »2smart
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:03pm@texas beta, your bias is showing. Why is it that you libs can’t look at anything objectivly? I know that you‘ve made up your mind and don’t need facts to confuse you. So here goes and I really shouldn‘t waste my time on somebody who can’t think for themselves. In 2007, Pelosi became Speaker, do you really think she would have passed on an opportunity to railroad any republican if she could. Given the history of Holder why do you believe that he’s a saint? Is it because he has an “D’ after his name? A Border agent was murdered, you willingly give up your right to know the truth behind it because somehow your idol’s are above reproach, why? What gives them messiah status? They are politicians, and politicians from both sides of the aisle have been lying since the beginning. Why are these clowns different? Either that or you don’t care as long as your idols keep up there destructive path. Somehow you believe in this utopia even though history and the evidence in your City and State contradict the idea. Well I wasted five minutes, how much of your lifetime will you be wasting before you wake up and smell the outhouse?
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:48pm@TexasBeta – It seems you were a strong Bush supporter if you justify Obama‘s actions as following in Bush’s footsteps. I for one was not a fan of Bush and I am sad that Obama has continued so many programs started under Bush. So you have to ask yourself … did you support the exact same program whem Bush was President? If you did not then you Sir or Madam are the hypocrite.
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:14pm@GhostofJefferson (great username, by the way)
Report Post »I do indeed remember those stories. I’m going to look for video and info on it, if it hasn’t been erased. The thing is I clearly remember right after the Nadal Hasan, people were starting to cause spikes in license applications for Conceal and Carry permits here in Texas and across the nation for states that have C&C. Then the anti-gun nuts went wild, then the stories about the cartels went quiet for a while, and they went after the gun shop owners. Then Barry and Eric’s F&F was brought to light and tied to Brian Terry and the term “gunwalking” was first heard. How Americans hove not enacted the right to dissolve the current government or in the throws of revolt is an endless shame on us. I hope the God, our forefathers, and future generations will forgive us for allowing such low and traitorous men and women to rule this nation and not punish them for their crimes against the Constitution. Time for people to understand the term “dissolution”.
Tri-ox
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:14amThe time has come for obama’s impeachment – there simply is no other choice.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:39amYou would have to convict him in the Senate, and there is little chance of that. There is a bigger chance that he would get hit in the head by a falling meteor than to be convicted in the Democrat controlled Senate. All an impeachment vote in the House would be impotent. Just imagine what he can get away with in a second term where he does not have to worry about reelection. Is there any action that you think he could take that would cause Harry Reid to convict him in the Senate?
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:40amLet’s see. Didn’t O-dumber say he would have the most OPEN adm. I guess he lied…. again!
Report Post »Todd P
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:46amThis is how democracy dies – one executive privilege and then another and another. America has become a dictatorship. But, the worst is yet to come. November 2012 will be an “interesting” month.
Report Post »G-WHIZ
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:18amKing-O’ committed treson the day he kissed-but of our enemies and appollogized for things WE never did as poorley as [The-One] cried we-did! Treson-proceedings should have started in ‘09, including Jo.Bitemee, Peelousy, No-Reid, baa.aa.aany Fwank, and Kiss-a. Dod.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:20amImpeachment BEGINS in the House .. I know the Senate won’t convict .. but that IS how you get the LAWLESSNESS of this regime out to the people .. the MSM would HAVE to report IMPEACHMENT .. as they did with Bill Clinton.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:34amGranting executive privilege specifically to cover up a crime is an impeachable offense in and of itself – plus, obama has now directly linked himself to the Fast and Furious crimes – he has committed treason against this nation – he must be impeached.
Report Post »jens63
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:12pmYes, I was thining granting executive priveledge implies some executive involvement, doesn’t it?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:14amExecutive Privilege… means… SECRET… from the other Branches of Government and the People of the United States! Right?
Report Post »WIjoyzie
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:28amSealed… just like all of the school records. Guess there really is something to hide! What other reason is there for withholding the emails. Who knew what…Who gave the orders…maybe the “smartest” man in DC?
The idiot posing as president is way more corrupt than Nixon!!!!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:44amNixon wasn’t corrupt, he was holding a legitimate investigation into an attempt by democrats to commit mass voter fraud, the media just lied about it. Just as they have lied about Obama’s citizenship, his iq, and hidden that his father was a bigoted alcoholic, that deliberately crafted his son into the evil sob we see today.
Report Post »theblazerunner
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:58amnational security…need to know only
Report Post »Hiswill
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:15amhttp://voices.washingtonpost.com/white-house-watch/obamas-not-so-open-government.html
This is Obama’s transparent government……………..NOT! Read the full story at the website
The Government should not keep information confidential merely because public officials might be embarrassed by disclosure, because errors and failures might be revealed, or because of speculative or abstract fears,” Obama said in the FOIA memo, adding later that “In responding to requests under the FOIA, executive branch agencies (agencies) should act promptly and in a spirit of cooperation, recognizing that such agencies are servants of the public.”
His memo on government transparency states that the Obama Administration “will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.” The order directs the yet-to-be-named chief technology officer to work with the OMB director to develop an “Open Government Directive” in the next four months.
Report Post »Ponyexpress
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:14amCan anybody guess who else knew about Fast and Furious?
Report Post »Naw, couldn’t be our president!
Vickie Dhaene
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:21amAs sure as I am sitting here, the White House is Complicit.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:21amThey JUST PROVED IT!
Report Post »theblazerunner
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:40ambefore brian was murdered , clinton and obama and the dems were pushing that us gun dealers were responsible …
Report Post »90% of guns…
un small arms treaty.
BehindTheMouth
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:14amWill the lamestreet media report on this? NO!!!
Report Post »BehindTheMouth
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:13amGod I hate this DICTATOR!!!!!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:17amBetter to hate the Senate… for they will not Impeach!
Report Post »MetalPatriot
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:19amAbsolutely.
Can the president really grant priviledges so that people can’t be tried?
He & his administration act/behave like they WANT us to cut their heads off. I sure wouldn’t mind…until NATO or some NWO military comes to intervene.
Report Post »bluesdog
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:12amSleazy!
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:12amThey are both trying to cover up their crimes. Think of all the people on both sides of the border that have died because of this crime by Obama and Holder , just think of the lawsuits that will happen. Ghetto president, I have lost all respect for the office of the President .
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:12amImpeachable corruption.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:20amThis would implicate Obama would it not? This just got really big. I wonder if Holder is not willing to fall solely on the sword over this. I am amazed that Obama granted it. The spotlight just got brighter and is now focusing on Obama as well.
Report Post »Xyskalla
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:59am@OlefromMN I’ve been thinking this for a while now. Holder has become such a political liability, so for the past few months I‘ve been wondering why Obama hasn’t cut ties in an election year. Certainly not out of loyalty. These guys turn on each other like a pack of rabid dogs. The only thing I can think of is that Holder probably has something on Obama. It might not necessarily be F&F, it might be something completely different. But he may have told Obama, “You’re not throwing me under the bus, or I’m taking you down with me.”
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:47amI keep hearing you morons spout impeachment, do you not realize the time it would take to impeach him will just ensure his reelection. All you’ll do is polarize his base and give him something to blame his own failures on. “Well I couldn’t do anything, it was the republicans fault.” Yeah fantastic idea…
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 12:47pm@ PONTIAC,
“I keep hearing you morons spout impeachment, do you not realize the time it would take to impeach him will just ensure his reelection. “ This ”moron” has thought about that. I fully understand Obama will be on the next ballot for POTUS. Should I just stand down? Who is the maroon?
Report Post »Jon Andrew
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:12amRestore Courage to Congress again, site Holder in Contempt NOW!
Report Post »Rillobymorning
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:52amAnd Boehner would like for all this to just go away. Says it’s a distraction. Cowards…all of them, or at least most of them. Issa is the only one I see with any guts who still appears to be working for the people. The rest are all working for themselves.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:58pm@Rillo
I am afraid you are correct. I spineless speaker of the house is a golf playing lapdog to Obama and I for one will be shocked if he does anything more than play lip-service (I am sure Obama would like that … but thats another story) to the F&F deal. He has been a failure for the republicans
Report Post »showmerancher
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:12amWell, that pretty much tell us that not only were crimes committed, but also that the cover-up is in full swing and the White House is complicit… probably because it had knowledge of, or gave the order for Fast & Furious.
More evidence that the Shining City is sliding down the hill and straight into a landfill.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:16amI totally agree it shows the white house was involve. this is disgusting shameful and illegal these men need to be thrown out of office and tried for crimes against our country.november cannot come soon enough.
Report Post »Beckisdelusional
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:41amSo everyone would agree that Bush and Cheney should be charged with War Crimes as well right?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:06pmDelusional
Argumentum tu quoque
Address the article, or be ridiculed for trying such a sophomoric rhetorical strategy.
And I’d love to see Bush/Cheney tried for many things, including waging an unconstitutional war. But as mentioned, that has nothing to do with this specific topic.
What are your thoughts on Obama’s action specifically? I don’t care what you think of the right, address the points of the article.
Balthazor
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:44pmWhich unconstitutional war was that? The one congress voted on? Or the other one congress voted on?
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:52pm@BeckisDelusional – actually I do agree that Bush and Co should be charged with war crimes. So how does that make what Obama did better? So are you saying that what Obama did in regards to the F&F is justified? I would love to hear your logic on that part of the story instead of some other story about Bush and Co. Waiting to hear your rapier logic on Obama.
Report Post »BeingThere
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:11amGangster government!!!!! Arrest Obama and his administration immediately!!!!
Report Post »Vickie Dhaene
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:19amWe The People demand: IMPEACHMENT, IMPRISONMENT, AND EXECUTION for High Treason NOW !!!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:11amToo bad more than half of Americans couldn’t care less, or this might be a big deal.
Report Post »2GurlsGramma
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:21amSo sad that is true; of course if people actually watched something besides MSM and commie MSNBC they would change their attitudes and minds.
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:26amYep…if Obama was a Republican this would be the only story main stream media would be reporting on. Yet because Obama is a Democrat there are no reports anywhere to be found.
This just leads me to think even more that there will be no election come Nov. Obama will not give up his power. Does anyone think that the Liberals/progressives will not turn this machine on after setting it up for the past 100 years.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:31amPOPP40………I completely agree with you.
Report Post »Plan B
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:11amOMG, I am speachless.
Report Post »bsnrn98
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:10amYep, a cover-up. impeach, impeach!!
Report Post »honor007
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:09amTime for impeachment hearings.
Report Post »voodoolife
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:09amDic-tat-or
Report Post »Cabo King
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:09amChicago politics–crooks covering up for crooks….Obama has effed up this country so bad..What a croc of sheet….
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:30amCome on, we all know it is Bush’s fault! At least we should, they have said it enough!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:09amLet the cover-up go on, there is something big hiding here.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:44amThe House of Saud is behind Obama, quietly telling him what to do.
Report Post »CapitalismCzar
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:08amWorst President since Jimmy Carter…check that, this guy is worse than Jimmy Carter.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:17amThey are voting to hold Eric Holder in contempt? Now that “O” has gotten involved (illegally) shouldn’t they also be voting to hold Obama in contempt???
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:38amThis transparent choom chump is far worse. The biggest difference is that 0 actually wants to destroy our Constitution.
Report Post »contkmi
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:08amLook at all the transparency! Goodness, I’m glad we have them for the current administration!
/sarcasm
Report Post »TX_45_ACP
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:52amThey are definitely not trying to hide something.
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:07amWhat a shock!
Report Post »leasecommander
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:07amOK, things are going to get really serious now. I hope they drag Holder and Obama down, it is blantently obvious that they are guilty.
Report Post »Kisses6350
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:37pmGulity? Serioulsy? Don’t you dare think for 1 minute the Adminstration has not thought about the consequences of evoking Executive Privilege? Barry is not the average bear. It’s a done deal, and that will end that, believe it………………***Smirks***
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