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Cops Reveal Moment Shooter Opened Fire on Officer 8-9 Times (Plus Other Details from Sikh Shooting Presser)

Presser Reveals New Details About Sikh Shooting in Wisconsin

Shooting suspect Page (Photo: Getty/Handout)

In a comprehensive press conference this morning from Oak Creek, Wisconsin, law enforcement officials shared new details about Sunday’s shooting at a Sikh temple. While few new revelations were given surrounding Wade Michael Page, the suspected gunman, authorities did provide details about the crime’s timeline, the gun utilized, an unnamed person of interest and the victims involved.

(Related: Authorities Identify Sikh Temple Shooter as Army Vet)

“In my mind they’re all heroes,” Oak Creek Police Chief John Edwards said of his fellow officers during the press conference. “They did exactly what was expected of them.”

Edwards claims that the officers, through their brave actions, prevented more intense tragedy from unfolding in and around the temple. They “stopped a worse tragedy from happening by their actions,” he maintained.

(Related: Conference of Mayors, Representing 1,295 U.S. Cities, Calls for Stricter Gun Laws Following Sikh Temple Shooting)

Perhaps the biggest revelation was that, while police claim there was only one gunman, an unnamed person of interest is being sought. FBI Milwaukee Special Agent Teresa Carlson encouraged people who have seen the individual to call a police tip line (his image is below). According to witnesses, the supposedly-suspicious individual was on the scene following the incident.

Presser Reveals New Details About Sikh Shooting in Wisconsin

OAK CREEK - AUGUST 6: FBI special agent in charge, Teresa Carlson holds a photograph of a subject that the FBI wants to interview and is asking for any information as she speaks at a press conference on the shooting at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin where yesterday a gunman fired upon people at service August, 6, 2012 in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. At least six people were killed when the shooter identified as Wade Michael Page opened fire on congregants in the Milwaukee suburb. The suspect who was a United States Army veteran was shot dead in a shootout with police. (Credit: Getty Images)

Among the details given, Edwards spoke about Lt. Brian Murphy, 51, a 21-year veteran officer who was shot eight or nine times with a handgun during the incident. Currently, Murphy is listed in critical condition.

He said Murphy was the first officer to respond to the scene and was “ambushed” when he went to help a victim lying on the ground. The shooter opened fire hitting him in his extremities and in the neck. When other officers arrived shortly after, the shooter then turned the gun toward them and shot out the windows of multiple police cruisers. One of those officers then returned fire with this rifle and took the shooter “down.”

Despite his injuries, Murphy then instructed his fellow officers to enter the temple, Edwards said. But protocol dictated that those officers bring Murphy to safety, which they did.

Presser Reveals New Details About Sikh Shooting in Wisconsin

UNSPECIFIED DATE & LOCATION: In this handout provided by the Oak Creek Police Department, Oak Creek Police Lt. Brian Murphy who was shot mulitple times by suspect Wade Michael Page at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, Wisconsin poses for a photograph on an unspecifed date and location. At least six people were killed when the shooter, identified as Wade Michael Page, opened fire on congregants in the Milwaukee suburb. The suspect who was a United States Army veteran was killed in a shootout with police. Lt. Murphy is a 21-year veteran of the department is expected to survive. (Credit: Getty Images)

The police chief went on to share the names, genders and ages of the victims involved in the shooting. In order to respect the proper pronunciation of those killed, a member of the Sikh community came up to the podium to read information about them.

Aside from sharing Page’s birthdate — November 1, 1971 — new details about the alleged perpetrator were not readily given.

“We can say that he was in the military 1992 to 1998. He had a general discharge and that he was ineligible for reenlistment,” Edwards added.

According to officials, there was no reason to believe that Page would have been capable of such a crime. Prior to the incident, there were no open law enforcement files creating concern for viable threats.

While authorities have information about at least one of the guns that was used in the crime, they were reluctant to go in-depth. During the presser, however, they described the weapon as “a 9mm handgun utilizing multiple ammunition magazines.” It was purchased legally, officials claim.

Read more about Page’s background here (updated as details develop).

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Comments (153)

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  • TPaine
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:57pm

    This guy was obviously a Tea Party member, but I didn’t see it mentioned anywhere. Is the MSM slipping? And the 2nd Amendment is there for the main reason of self-defense and personal preservation. It matters not whether or not you have a license for a concealed weapon – you have a God-given right to protect yourself and your family, with deadly force if necessary.

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    • Shiroi Raion
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:14pm

      He’s obviously a Tea Party member? Where do you get that idea? From the prejudices you were taught by believing the Leftist propaganda? Did he call for lower taxes, smaller government, less regulations, and less wasteful spending? He doesn’t seem like he type of person that would care about those things. It seems his mind is focused somewhere else. If he is a Tea Party member, he only joined because he relished the divisive propaganda that dishonest Liberal hate mongers dished out. Where does he call for any Tea Party principles? Show us one.

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    • RRFlyer
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:27pm

      Come on SHIROI RAION, Read what TPAINE said before you make a fool of yourself next time. He was being sarcastic as the left always blames the Tea Party when there is a shooting.

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:29pm

      Eye witnesses inside the temple saw FOUR gunmen dressed in black enter the temple and open fire. This lone gunman psyop crap that MSM and the government is spreading needs to stop. This has false flag written all over it. Just one more incident that they will use to try and pass AWB 2 and sign and ratify the UN Small Arms Treaty.

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    • CuriousCat
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:30pm

      This is Government Sponsored Terror.

      Witnesses said that there were multiple shooters! Just like the Aurora shooting, the media is making it seam that the investiagation is complete, and it is an angry white male. So the solution they have is gun control…

      The biggest terrot threat is our rouge government. Not all but factions of it, and they seem to get away with it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLY2FaCPEHI&feature=plcp

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    • realindependent
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:38pm

      No he was A Nazi skin-headed nut job. Enjoy hating non white people. sounds familiar….

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    • imachristian
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:01pm

      I wonder how many of those officers were members of the Tea Party…considering they were willing to sacrifice their lives for the freedom of others, I‘d say it’s a likely bet,

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    • Shiroi Raion
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:10pm

      Sorry, I rarely use sarcasm. It’s too easily misinterpreted when in print. I assumed the end of his post was his sarcasm, not the beginning. Sorry, TPaine.

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    • mercenary4freedom
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:12pm

      Hey Special Agent Carlson, go ask the CIA who your subject of interest is, I’ll bet they know the whole op step by step & player by player.

      The govt thinks we’re dumb, this was a setup on the Sikhs as they are known to be peaceful people & odds were that none of them would be armed to fight back…This is getting way tiring, the govts little scam to usher in gun control & their attack on veterans. watch & see they will do it again. Stay vigilant americans, the govt is not our friends! Let me reiterate, the “barry hussein” govt!

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    • docgreen
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:19pm

      For all who think he was a Tea Party member, he was not! From WND their saying he has ties to the Neo Nazi party! But like I said yesterday, the left is going to do everything they can to get rid of the 2nd amendment! They will stop at nothing to Blame everything on the right and the Conservative Tea Party! And yet somehow the Left never takes blame for anything, including the new black pather party or for obama creating massive debt, or their ties to code pink, the muslims, and the Floatilla! And yet they still blame the Tea Party and Our rights to bear Arms! Do you see how the gun or guns were not AK’s or M16s or anything like that, but you can bet your life they’re going after them all! But If someone were to say, well if the Sikh’s would have had guns, they could have defended themselves; but NO, we’ll blame the Tea Party! You can tell its just like the radical left Blaming and saying the Sikh’s were tied to muslims and thats why this happened. Yet they have no clue, they didn’t even realize they not even muslims! Yet we are to Blame! Why? “never let a tragedy go to waste, when we can use it to take away the rights of America!…..

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    • SquareHead
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:24pm

      Another convenient event, to help support the coming gun ban.. I wonder if the police confiscated the security cameras in the area, or cell phones like they did at the Batman shooting….

      Wake up and get your head out of the sand.

      Watch this 6 min clip:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4EpZ-qJ-oE

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    • SquareHead
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:31pm

      @MERCENARY4FREEDOM

      Well said, except that these operations started before Obama took office as we see with Fast and Furious, so don’t think for a second that if we get rid of Obama, that the problem is solved. The only terror I fear, is the terror we could see from a tyrannical government here, and our government has been moving towards total control for some time. But when Bush was in, I did not complain when he started the TSA, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, so they can track all the people that watch TheBlaze, this all the while leaving the borders wide open?

      So as bad/ evil as Obama is, this has been in the making before he took office, so it is a problem bigger than him..

      Did you listen to this clip:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4EpZ-qJ-oE

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    • Clive
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:37pm

      i’d say a white supremacist mowing down 10 brown people in their place of worship, can be classified as terrorism. also, quit freaking out conspiracy theorists, you look like godd@mn idiots. the government didn’t kill these people, or the people in aurora, crazy people did the killing, end of story.

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    • mdlwoods
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:49pm

      I think TPaine was being a little sarcastic when saying he must have been a member of the Tea party. Lighten up Shiroi!!!

      The really sad part of this whole murderous incident is that the Sikhs are very passive, peaceful people who believe in serving others. I think this murder was so stupid that he mistook them for being Muslim. With him being ex-military, he may have had a real resentment toward Islam, then compounded by the idiotic white supremacy movement.

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    • docgreen
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 5:13pm

      The only conspiracy theory, is obama destroying America and Our Constitution!…. All it is, is people going off the Deep End! Yet obama will use all these to take away our rights and he’s doing it not for Safety, No, its to take over America and once he has our Guns, everything is lost! We can’t fight back if we only have pitch forks and knives! No, think about this, have you heard what obama wants to do with our military in his 2nd term? Lets just say, when you see him doing things to eliminate weapons and equipment, because he’s saying its budget problems and everyones looking at it that way, its not! Yes he’s down sizing, with troops and weapons; why would he want that? Lets just say, its allor easyer to have some other country take over if we have no military or cant defend ourselves! From what WND is saying, obama is about to change our military into world community organizers with no Weapons! Maybe they’ll teach them songs to sing, but We won’t have a military anymore, thats for sure! If you think islams going away, you better pray it. No islam’s going to be the New Religion everyone is forced into!……

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    • florida123
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 6:12pm

      Tea Party member? Where did that come from? Been to plenty of Tea Party function never heard them talk down about the Sikhs or any other religion……..The are against Taxes to pay for Gov’t BS……….thats it! This guy was a product of the US Army, sorry but thats where he learned these tactics and probably damaged soldier who the ARMY should have provided treatment………..We will never now the truth the Commander and Chief wont be talking, he will be sweeping this under his rug……..

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 6:13pm

      Something does not pass the smell test here and elsewhere. So, the UN arms control treaty comes up for vote and all of a sudden all of these evil white guys just happen to appear. All this is a little too convenient for me. Set the goon up, send him in for the shooting and then lie in wait and waste him. Then, you can say he belongs to this or that hate group and the dead guy can’t speak for himself. A little too slick for me. These guys appear to have been brainswashed by pros. CIA type goons. All this crap is too much just to be a coincidence. I am not buying it.

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    • Logistician
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 7:08pm

      TPAIN you filthy opportunistic treasonous pig. This attack had zero to do with “tea party” ideals. Those naive “tea party” people are amongst the few who actually believe that common sense and reason will change the hearts and minds of the communists traitors who actively work to turn America into a tribalism monstrosity. To whatever degree this shooter was a Nazi, to that degree he was unwelcome and unwanted amongst Tea Party folk; to the same degree that the collectivist communists are unwanted. Yet you sit there, stupid and self righteous, condemning those who support the Constitution and its ideals–the ONLY way to actually overcome the primitive collective hatreds you and your ilk work to actively foster in OUR land. Traitors against the Constitution and Liberty like YOU support “hate crime” legislation that denies equal protection under the law; Traitors against the Constitution and Liberty like YOU DEMAND that incoming peoples into this land retain first and foremost their native language, in order to divide and preserve that division; Traitors like YOU DEMAND that American History take a second row to the tribalistic history of alien nations all, and that historic grievances be preserved and nurtured into blood libels. You, sir, are a treasonous bastard deserving of a penalty fitting your crime; but guess what, numb-nuts? Real Nationalists know who you are, and eventually you will pay for your TREASON.

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    • Logistician
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 7:09pm

      oh crap if you were being sarcstic…..well, crap. sorry about that chief.

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    • Logistician
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 7:34pm

      Hey techengineer11, are you standing in line to lynch Mark Levin? You want to kill some of the folks who worked next to me slaving away to get you your circuit boards and monitors for the same wage I did, because of the blood running through their veins instead of the ideas running through their heads?

      Your idea of Treason and Nationalism belongs in Nazi Germany, not the United States of America. Here we don‘t imprison children for their father’s debts and we don’t stigmatize by virtue of the collective you may or may not have been born into. We don‘t have nobility and we don’t have a slave class–we have Liberty–and we will fight, die, and KILL to preserve and protect it.

      Realign your twisted notion of what it is to be a Nationalist or get the hell out of my country.

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    • docgreen
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 7:53pm

      @techengineer
      So now we come full 360 degrees, is it not bad enough the Left and the Left tweeters saying it was against islam and its the Tea Party’s fault? And now you step in and Blame the Jews? Your NO better than the guy who killed these people! Only difference, you haven’t shot anyone, yet! So explain to me how its now the Jews Fault, you imbicile! And then you proclaim this man to be Jewish, who did the killing? Before you state that, you’d better have the source down and verrified it! But once again, you probably don’t! Just like in the Tavonn case people were making accusations and the the facts weren’t out yet! So, don’t blame the Jews!…. Did you see Blazers saying it was muslims, or th Chinese, or Koreans, NO, we sat back and got as much info as we could! Yet at the same time, telling people the Sikh’s are not muslims! I guess maybe you keep your ghost costume and white pointed hat in the closet! Lets put the blame on the Shooter, and figure out if there were warning signs, before blaming the Jews on everything! When we see the terrorists blowing people up and we come out and say islam is not peaceful, its not becuase its one person! There are thousands of muslims killing people and when you put it all together, many signs point to muslims as terrorists! I’m not saying this man was muslim; HE”S not! What I’m saying is this person is full of Hate and thinking they were probably muslims! He went off the deep end! Thats it and its not the

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    • Thomas_Jefferson
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:46pm

      In 2010, Pakistan Muslims demanded eleven Sikh family’s to pay them a 180,000 dollar jizya, The Sikhs refused, They were beheaded.
      We dont hear a single complaint about this from the Sikh community
      but they demand we give up our gun rights because of one neo-Nazi.

      Oh by the way TPaine, NAZI is short for National Socialists, That’s you guys.
      This shooter is one of yours.

      Don’t take my word for it, Here’s a quote from your leader.

      “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

      Adolf Hitler

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    • stage9
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:55pm

      I think if we’d just all kill ourselves and let the animals inhabit the earth like liberals want us to, the world would be a better place.

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    • jzs
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:01pm

      I agree that this person was probably not a member any political party. He appears to be a neo-Nazi and white supremacist. So we can be sure he’s not an Obama supporter. In fact, he probably hates Obama. Check.

      But what else can we conclude? Well for certain he was anti-immigrant. Check. For sure as a neo-Nazi he hated Jews like Francis Scott Piven, Saul Alynski and George Soros. Check. Of course as a neo-Nazi he would hate gays and lesbians. Check. We can be certain he hated Muslims or members of other religions he viewed an “un-American.” Check. It’s a safe bet he despised Mexicans. Check. He loved guns. Check.

      No way he was TP. Must have been a liberal.

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    • RobbieTLHughie
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 10:07am

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA People at this site can’t even read a WHOLE comment before reacting like crazies! It’s hilarious to watch, you say one thing in sarcasm and the whole site explodes on you like a cluster bomb!

      Ah, that’s funny… Ah but the sad reality is it’s also very funny to watch you all do damage control, it’s obvious who this psycho was and while his political beliefs are pointless next to the titanic stupidity and insanity of his act, you all were Speedy Gonzales quick to shout “OCCUPY WALL STREET DUDE” when the theater shooting happened.

      This country has some problems and it’s nothing to do with gay marriage or abortion or sin or love… It‘s over reaction that we’ve all got to deal with.

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  • mbean
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:57pm

    Another crime where guns instead of untreated mental illnness will be blamed by MSNBC ?

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    • Shiroi Raion
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:58pm

      It could be mental illness, but it seems his motivation was hate. White supremacists, the New Black Panthers, the Muslim terrorists, La Raza, the Westboro nuts… they’re all taught to hate people who are unlike themselves. I see no ties to the Tea Party in any of these groups, but I do see ties to Democrats in all but Westboro.
      White supremacists seem to be whites brainwashed by the KKK. Who started the KKK? If I recall correctly, Democrats created the KKK just after they lost the civil war. They may have been rejected by modern Democrats, but they are not welcomed into any party.
      The New Black Panthers seem to be nothing more than a counter group of the white supremacists. They are welcomed as Democrats.
      La Raza are a group of hateful Mexicans. What drives them to hate? I have no idea, but they are also welcomed as Democrats.
      Muslim terrorists. Democrats are trying to get them as another voting bloc.
      I don’t like either party, but it appears that the Democrats have the bulk of hate groups. Politicians and media stirring up the hatred… all for the sake of persuading voters and even future voters. It‘s pure evil and it’s probably why George Washington believed that the party system would be the death of us.

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    • iBeliever
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:06pm

      or maybe we could work on preventing the mentally ill from obtaining guns?

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    • rawmilker
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:23pm

      Eleven people were killed in Texas last week in a pickup truck crash. A chicom in madman in China stabbed six people to death last week as well….The world is a dangerous place so watch your 6 folks.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 6:56pm

      You know what Sharoi? Unless you are a white guy, then you don’t know crap about how a white guy thinks and especially anything about who he “hates”. You see, the snowman does not worry about things like “keeping the minorities down” or “hating” people. We are perfectly capable of thriving on our own. We don’t need to knock the other guy down in order to make ourselves appear to be a more attractive alternative. We don’t have local, state, federal agencies looking out for us. We have just the opposite. We are villified and demonized almost like the Jews were in the 1930s-made out to be the enemy. And, like in the case of the Jews, we are not the bad guys at all. 95% of this “the white guy hates minorities” crap is a lie. All this business about us “hating” minorities is a myth. And we still kick ass and take names. We don’t need to hate to get ahead. We perform and earn every fricking nickel we get. Even with all the coordinated MSM smear campaigns that have been thrown at us, we are still on top and will remain there. History has proven this out.

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  • DetritusScreener
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:43pm

    Just because this guy served in the Army for a few years a decade ago doesn’t mean that made him a psycho killer. Why don’t the media focus on what he did for the last ten years of his life rather than being veteran? He didn’t even have an honorable discharge. The media is isolating his military service in order to stigmatize veterans and I think it is horrendous. Anyone who respects service to our country should be offended. This man is a mentally ill monster and the media is using his atrocity to make a political statement against the people who defend this country.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:00pm

      @DetritusScreener

      Thanks, good comments.

      Most are not aware that when soldiers do return from combat, statistically, they are less likely to commit crimes than those that never served or deployed. Those statistics are true of soldiers today, and going all the way back to WWI.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:28pm

      RANGERP, This guy reportedly never served overseas either, much less in a combat zone. Apparently he was in 6th Psyops for a while then was moved to Ft Bliss, He has been out of the service now for fourteen years, so I don’t see that as playing as much a part in this incident as the press, and the police department makes it seem. He has had more civilian life to make an impact rather than military life.

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    • SanDiegoCountyCitizen
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:30pm

      The “Army Vet” angle provides the “proof” of the threat that Veterans pose as potential domestic terrorism, as espoused by our progressive-statist top law enforcement officer, Janet “Big Sis” Napalatono, in 2009:

      “ the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks”.

      “Pay no attention” to the fact that this sociopath was simple a malcontent who did not spend any time in combat; the progressive-statists have all the “proof” they need now to add “military veteran” to this list of characteristics which the Federal Fusion Centers utilize to analyze an individuals “Threat Level”:

      * Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
      * Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
      * Survivalist literature (fictional books such as “Patriots” and “One Second After” are mentioned by name)
      * Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
      * Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
      * Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
      * Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government Homeschooling
      * Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
      * Belief in a New World Order conspiracy

      Where do you stand on that list?

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    • rangerp
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:39pm

      SanDiegoCountyCitizen

      I am that list

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    • Sgt_Rock
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:00pm

      SanDiegoCountyCitizen / RangerP….Yeah, I also match most of that list…As do alot of LDS folks I know. Given DHS’s logic, I suppose that means the vast majority of Mormons are potential terrorists? Most have cached food stores for a year. Hold conservative views, believe in the end times, many are gun enthusiasts, hunt, have prior military experience, etc. Wow, a new security threat group…who’da thunk it.

      That is the most ridiculous criteria I have ever seen, and that makes it all the more believable. Everyone of the SDCC’s bullet points is constitutionally protected, so basically, if you take legal advantage of your rights, you are a potential extremist…Yet, if you vandalize property, crap on cop cars, disrupt businesses, block workers from getting to jobs, trespass for extended periods of time, refuse lawful orders to disperse, injure police officers, riot, block polling places, threaten to kill “white babies” etc, you are not an extremist but a HERO to this administration. WTF

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  • SR1911man
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:41pm

    Fort Hood Shooter-
    Killed 13 people.
    Wounded 29.
    Shooter is an Islamic extremist.
    After thorough investigation, branded a WORKPLACE VIOLENCE.

    Sikh Temple shooter-
    Killed 6 people.
    Wounded 4.
    Shooter had white supremacist ties.
    With no investigation, branded a TERRORIST ATTACK.

    Justice is no longer blind.

    I have an issues I have with how our government doles out justice in this country. Both these men are evil. Only one is a terrorist. Who is our country in bed with?

    https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/404137_980743237464_301972011_n.jpg

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    • corchem
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:24pm

      You are right on the money, except you forgot to mention that that nice man Nidal Malik Hasan, was yelling allahu akbar at the time of his “work place violence”

      Welcome to “hope and Change” aka fundamental transformation of the United States of America !

      the libs have successfully dumbed down our population, so this is the result…

      My call out to Obama:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe53jFLVNY4&list=UUwr9M19DCByiWGfy935-gsQ&index=3&feature=plcp

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    • AmericanFightingMan1
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 5:35pm

      Well-reasoned. Ties in with the Justice Department‘s refusal to prosecute New Black Panther’s at polling station too. Selective, PC branding of violent events in the homeland.

      You can tell that the hippy Libs have nearly universal control over government. They own the courts. They own the schools and universities. They own Congress. They own the Federal Executive branch.

      The few brave souls who fight on also have the courage to identify with the Tea Party. So many in the middle waffle and hide behind the curtains, only emerging once it is “safe”. To hell with you I say. The timid and weak deserve their shame.

      This is full on battle now. Not (for the most part) with arms, but with courage. Courage to stand up and oppose those who drift, lean or wade in the marxist ways. Do NOT give quarter to marxists. Firmly confront them at every turn. When you do so, people are watching. Impressionable young people. Weak, timid people. You can build confidence in those who are weaker.

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    • Scottsman
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 7:39pm

      Good points SR1911.

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    • dawghowse
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:56pm

      Right on point SR1911MAN, could not have said it any better!

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  • SanDiegoCountyCitizen
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:28pm

    1. No “Sheepdog” citizen present, yet again. Why can’t men take responsibility for the protection of their family and community and carry a handgun???

    2. This evil malcontent’s weapon will no doubt be labeled an Assault Pistol, “that no citizen would ever need for hunting or target practice” by HVPC, LCAV, Brady, et al.

    3. Rot in Hell, you evil monster.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:33pm

      4. Repeat number 3!!! I believe this kind of person has a “special” place in hell waiting for them. The killing of innocent people…NO EXCUSE.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:42pm

      some facts the libs never want you to know.

      Of murders in the US, the “assault rifle” is used less than 3% of the time.

      Switzerland has the lowest murder per capita rate, and every house has an assault rifle and ammunition

      Blacks make up 12% of the population and commit 50% of the murders (they generally kill other blacks). If we could lower the black murder rate to equal that of whites, we would drop the nations murder rate by 32%, become a nation with one of the lowest murder rates in the world, and save the lives of tens of thousands of black males every year. To do this, we would have to talk welfare, and libs are not about to go that route.

      Accidental gun deaths are about 1% of the nations accidental deaths per year, It is about equal to deaths by dog bit, and a bit behind deaths from bug bites.

      Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in America, and has one of the highest murder per capita rates (once again, most of those getting shot and killed are black Americans)

      http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

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    • DetritusScreener
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:07pm

      @RANGERP – Thank you for the firearm facts. I appreciate the website link too. I am curious to know how many gun crimes are committed by legal firearm owners versus criminal acts committed by people possessing a firearms illegally.

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  • CulperGang
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:27pm

    Another government false flag slaughter to “prove” the need for removal of guns. This guy was another “dispensable” patsy along with the other three. When you peel this onion what you’ll find: The gov., pays these guys millions to pull this off(if they don’t make it too bad, that is the risk they take)…..and these guys disappear for ever drinking tequilas somewhere, never to be found or seen to be brought to justice. This is a war on civilians by the NWO/Your Gov., USING YOUR TAX MONEY and your army personnel, to enslave you; check out the below vid.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilIYMaxWLGw

    SEEK THE TRUTH

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    • SanDiegoCountyCitizen
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:49pm

      @Culpergang
      Unfortunately, my conspiracy obsessed friend, there are plenty of sociopathic and psychopathic individuals among us to provide poster child fodder for the progressive-statists in their march to enslave us, No need for “mind control”.

      While there is a place for critical “what-if” scenario analysis to figure out complex facts and motivations, a highly covert domestic mind control programs by federal operatives IS NOT a viable answer in this case.

      If you are concerned about the progressive-statists turning you and our citizens into slaves of the state, may I suggest you spend a little more time on grassroots politics and less time watching re-runs Manchurian Candidate!

      EVO-DIS-ENGAGE 002-001 REF:CULPERGANG-TB/GBTV ;-)

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    • neither1
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:50pm

      Wow.

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    • RRFlyer
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:32pm

      Wow CULPERGANG, How can you even take a bath with all those “Spy Cameras” watching your every move? How can you sleep at night when “They” are monitoring your every dreams and are going to hold it against you? Do you have a paid food tester to make sure you are not being poisoned every time you eat?

      and NO, I didn’t check out your video.

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    • iBeliever
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:05pm

      can you imagine being this severely schizophrenic? and having so many places on the internet to help you justify and enable these beliefs?

      you see things like this more and more often lately and it’s really depressing

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    • Sgt_Rock
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:16pm

      As my RTO used to say…Dude, you be trippin’

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  • rangerp
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:26pm

    Uh Oh, this makes things a little tough for the libs.

    Every time there is a shooting, libs jump out front, try to depict the shooter as some sort of Tea Party, conservative gone mad. They want folks to think the shooter is an NRA member, goes to Baptist church, hunts, fishes, does competitive target shooting, votes republican, drives a pick-up truck, and so on. Time and time again, they are proved false, and more often than not, the shooter is just plain psycho, or has left leaning ties.

    This dude was the head of a heavy metal rock band that was into white supremacy sort of music. You will notice that the Tea Party, NRA, Baptists, and conservatives have no ties or use for these white supremacy crowd. You will find that the white supremacy crowd shares much more in common with anarchist and OWS, than anything Tea Party.

    Here is the part that will make the libs shut their mouths, leave this one alone, and move on. The whole tie to violent racist music is the key. Libs would love to spout about this music, but they dare not mutter a peep. To do so, would open up discussion about the violent gangster rap music that is so popular in their base of voters. While the white racist music does exist, it is not near as popular nor is it pushed by MTV like the violent rap music.

    Once again, the libs are left with no one to point a finger at, and thus they will have to move on, or try to spin some sort of lie on all of this.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:52pm

      The problem is the likes of ENCINOM will show up later and accuse all of the Tea Party, Christian Religious groups and so forth with this activity. There are just too many of the left wing loons who buy into this stupidity and refuse to see the forest for the trees.

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    • Just_Us2
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:15pm

      People like ENCINOM have their own set of psychological issues going on. To ENCINOM, conservatives are less than human and should be exterminated. I have no doubt, given the chance, ENCINOM and like minded minions would put people to death for having differing opinions. This is precisely why we need to be armed….it’s called self preservation.

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  • John 3:16
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:23pm

    We really shouldn’t comment until, Little man, George Snuffalogafist and ABC communist news tell us what the liberal view point is so that we have all the “real” facts. I’m sure they have done their investigatory ground work before they speak…choke choke !!!

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  • Guitar Master
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:21pm

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    From THE REPORTER
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    FACT: There are at least two eyewitnesses in the church that said there were 4 shooters “dressed in dark clothes. re: CNN news footage..

    FACT: There were several witnesses at the Aurora shooting that said there was more than one shooter.

    FACT: In both cases the shooters were involved in mind control studies or professions.

    FACT: Both attacks took place in a crowded, confined location (place of worship & theater).

    Are these just coincidences or is a pattern developing?

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    • Copo
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:29pm

      FACT: Both places were very crowded
      FACT: This would make the scene extremely chaotic
      FACT: This would make it seem like shots were coming from all directions, it would give the impression of multiple shooters
      FACT: These witness accounts are taken into account and matched with the physical evidence at the scene
      FACT: There was no evidence of other shooters at the scene, and many witnesses have stories that change due to the chaotic nature of the scene

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:30pm

      Although I know where you are going with this, and I suspect the same, you can not call those facts (except for “eyewitness claimed” examples”……They are calculated guesses.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:34pm

      I believe little in coincidence. An obvious pattern emerges.

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  • rogie
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:20pm

    Watched this press conference…what a bunch of crap. The officials stood before the cameras and patted themselves on their backs for doing such a great job of responding to the shootings. They thanked everybody form the mayor to the fire chief to the multi county task force and on and on and on.
    All I kept thinking was that once again the police can only be there after the shooting starts.
    When seconds count the cops are just minutes away. Now every white male with a handgun will once again come under attack because of this stupid FXXX……….. man this stuff ****** me off.
    Responsible armed citizens can stop these attacks. Get a hand gun, take a class and learn how to defend yourself and your family. Law enforcement cannot protect you from stupid insane people.

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    • the_truth_or_not
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:00pm

      @ROGIE,
      I agree with you that more citizens need to conceal carry. But you have to remember, this was a place of worship. Do you carry your gun into your church, synigog, mosk, or whatever your place of worship is? That is one place that you expect to be safe.

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    • rogie
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 6:51pm

      I didn’t three weeks ago, but I do now……My wife would always say things about it when we would be going out for the night. You know, stuff like “do you really think you are going to need that at the Movie theater???“ or ”its a nice restaurant, can’t you leave that home just for tonight?”. Funny thing, we went to see the new Batman film the other night and she actually patted me on the hip as we walked in to check to see if it was there. I think she gets it now. Why would a church be any different? In fact it might even be a bigger risk today.
      I’m Not an advocate for untrained people carrying, its a commitment. not something to impress your friends with…

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  • term limits for congress
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:17pm

    I am going to reserve judgement on this issue until Big Sis Napolitano tells me what to think.

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  • DesdemonasCrew
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:10pm

    The 2nd ammendment will continue to come under attack. The press and the left will jump on these stories with glee, and self-serving politicians will use the outrage to pass new laws. One is already being pushed in California to eliminate removable magazines.

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    • CulperGang
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:32pm

      hmmmmmmmm blaze wont print that this was another gov fls Fl op…..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilIYMaxWLGw

      blaze not seeking the truth? boogie men from the gov……threaten the blaze?

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    • JediKnight
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:32pm

      @Culper: I guess the hour long episode that Beck did when he was on Fox about this very thing isn’t good enough for you? I guess Beck constantly ripping the central banks about their policies isn’t good enough for you?

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  • altops
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:09pm

    Eyewitness: 4 Man Team Behind Sikh Temple Shooting again where who are the other shooters? r they even looking for them?

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  • usafpatriot
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:04pm

    This guy got out of the Army 14 years ago. Him being a veteran is not an issue, I don’t recall us being in a major conflict during his 1992-1998 time frame. Following the Colorado shooting one of the first comments I heard from the MSM was there was a military base near by, probably hoping that it was a military member who returned recently from a deployment. I guess the MSM is hoping to pin this on the military and that PTSD is creating a bunch of crazy killers, sorry this guy was just a crazy and it had nothing to do with him being a veteran.

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  • TisOnlyMe
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:58pm

    “Who brings a gun to a temple?”

    Anyone that wants a fighting chance when one of these loons goes off.

    All these shootings happen because the bad guys are carrying guns more than the good guys. That needs to be reversed. How do mass shootings end? Someone else with a gun shoots the bad guy.

    Have a gun. Everywhere.

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    • the_truth_or_not
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:12pm

      @TISONLYME
      As far a bringing a gun into a place of worship, please see my comment to ROGIE. For the shooting in CO, do we know if the movie theatre has/doesnt have a sign out front saying; “No fire arms allowed!”? Without an answer to that question, we dont know if guns werent taken, or left in the car. Without knowing if there is a sign or not (doesnt need to be a sign. Just needs a policy of no guns.), we cannot say that guns would have/would have not been in the facility. Usually people who carry guns, are respectable and will respect the establishments they visit. I know I carry.

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    • McKinley
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:32pm

      As far as the man who had the gun was concerned, he WAS shooting at the bad guys.

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  • Swalker
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:53pm

    Were any of the police who shot the guy vet’s”"
    just asking…

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  • pwatkins
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:50pm

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/sikh-temple-shooter-was-in-army-psychological-operations.html

    Very seldom read this site but something is going on beyond our control and who knows maybe beyond the recent alledged shooters control.
    I am not liking that many of them were into similar mind control studies.

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  • goldmankc
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:15pm

    just a thought, the media likes to portray most of these shooters as leaning right politically. when the truth comes out it seems that the opposite is true. i’d like to pretend for just a moment that the political left wants to take away americas guns, and the mass shooters are left leaning, the shooters either end up dead before they can talk or drugged into submission for the same reason, suppose there is an agenda from the left happening?,,,, nah, never mind

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    • 70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:43pm

      Nazis, socialist, Marxist and fascist are more government thus left wing. To the right is less government. Neo-Nazis vote with the left and loved FDR’s segregation policies. The left always segregates using more stringent government dividing people into little minority groups, controlling what they do and think like the Obama administration. the put American against American. Favoring one group when they speak to them then favoring the other the next time. Putting more favor for their own personal gain and never for the Great American Melting Pot. They hate that term “Great American Melting Pot” it comes with freedom and less government.
      TEA PARTY UNTOUCHABLES!!!!!!!! Peaceful freedom fighters.

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    • FrankWhite
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:39pm

      @70′s kid. You really need to take a 100 level political science course. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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    • 70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:10pm

      @FrankWhite
      I have 2 degrees both 4.0/4.0. I am exactly correct. Socialism and Marxism must eventually turn into communism or fascism. Neo Nazi from “Mein Kampf” Volume Two: The National Socialist Movement. Nazi is an extreme fascist liberal form of socialism. More government is left and dictators switch from one form to another. On the right is less government to no government. Liberals continue to ignore science and facts for there beloved Rules for radicals. Lying telling falsehoods (means justifies the end). That is just plain fact jack.
      TEA PARTY UNTOUCHABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • FrankWhite
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:37pm

      @70, Fascism is on the far right of the political spectrum. The Nazi‘s weren’t socialist they just called themselves that, they were in fact as you pointed out fascists. Hate groups and hate militias in this country are usually on the far right of the political spectrum. That is not to say that people who are in the tea party or consider themselves right wing are fascists are in hate groups or sympathize with those individuals, just as liberals are not communist just because communism is on the far left of the political spectrum. I can’t imagine how you could have maintained a 4.0 in a political science course believing that fascism is a leftist ideology. In World War II if fascism is in fact a leftist ideology why did Hitler align with Mussolini and Franco instead of Stalin?

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    • luxlife
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:43pm

      70s Kid is right on the money and the PRIMARY evidence supports his analysis.

      FRANKWHITE, may I suggest you take a 200 level course and get back to us.

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    • FrankWhite
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:56pm

      Whatever if you need to continue your anti-intellectual distortion of history and the realities of political theory, that is your prerogative and not my problem. Just know it only is true in your own fish bowl of group think.

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    • Politijack
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 7:52pm

      Roosevelt aligned with Franco as well.

      Just sayin…

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  • PatriotK
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:10pm

    This is the biggest crock of crap, just like the Aurora shooting. Multiple reports, along with police scanner details, showed there were multiple shooters and multiple suspects.

    There have been multiple reports of multiple shooters – live on CNN and local news saying that ‘four men, all dressed darkly came in a highly coordinated attack.”

    Government False Flag and we know why.

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  • Anadara
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:56pm

    The government may make stricter gun laws, but Chicago and DC will always be a war zone where only criminal have guns.

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    • BumperMorgan
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:42pm

      The government can make all of the laws it wants, but it will not stop anyone crooks or not from having a gun.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:43pm

      The city and county government has always seen to that.

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  • conservative beckhater
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:35pm

    Why is a killer that uses firearms called a “gunman?“ Do we call a person who uses a bat a ”batman“ or a person who uses a knife a ”knifeman?”

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    • Calm Voice of Reason
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:41pm

      Why do we drive on a parkway, but park on a driveway? Why is stuff on a ship called cargo, but stuff in a truck is a shipment?

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:48pm

      It is far worse than insane here…“they” call the Fort Hood massacre “workplace violence” but the same act is called “domestic terrorism” when it is perpetrated by a U S soldier? We’d better hope for a major turnout in November or we are all DOOMED! In the meantime, is there absolutely NO way to stop these people legally?

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  • Individualism
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:24pm

    yeah oops it was goverment personnel how about controlling your own thugs instead of responsible citizens haha.

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    • Copo
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:57pm

      Ah, changed your picture to hide your trutherism eh?

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:15pm

      He aint hiding ish. 911 was an inside job and neoconservatives like you and bill krystal are the slime of the earth. WANT MORE WARS? What joke republicans have become. You people are enemies of the republic. Your worse than libs because you pretend to be conservative but what you really are is war mongering fools. Every war after ww2 was BULL to furthur the military industerial complex. Now I know that a million dead Iraqis really turns you on, but to the rest of the world, we look like crazy murders. You people should have listened to Eisenhower farewell address better. 911=inside job!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY

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    • Copo
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:33pm

      1. There is no proof to support that theory, besides the ignorance of how tower 7 was constructed and ignorance of the fact that the twin towers were also the first steel skyscrapers to be hit by a 767.
      2. War sucks, I‘m against interventionist wars over things that don’t threaten us
      3. I’m a teapartier, not a neoconservative. By definition your Paul guy is a neoconservative as he is a fiscal conservative and a social liberal.
      4. The general consensus for civilian deaths is around 100,000-200,000, and no I’m not happy that people died.
      5. I‘ve listened to it before and its a good speech however it doesn’t mean that a retaliation is a plot to build up a military police state.
      6. You‘re great at making assumptions now aren’t you.

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  • CatherineAnn
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:15pm

    The left is loving this. They can make a lot of hay with this one. I just hope we find out the truth to why he did it, not what the media makes of it. To me it sounds like we have another disturbed mind, and if someone in that temple would have had a gun it may have ended differently.

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    • conservative beckhater
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:24pm

      The shooter was mentally deranged. That being said, why do people leave their home countries to move to the USA but insist on behaving as though theyts till live in their home countries? This multi-cultural nonsense never works.

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    • Calm Voice of Reason
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:25pm

      Who brings a gun to a temple?

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    • vox_populi
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:05pm

      “That being said, why do people leave their home countries to move to the USA but insist on behaving as though theyts till live in their home countries?”

      Fun fact: the United States has had freedom of religion since always.

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    • let us prey
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:49pm

      Voxpoluli
      Fun fact: the United States has had freedom of religion since always.
      The progs and commies are doing a number on religion in the USA. Have you been asleep? Typical commie rhetoric you spew on a daily basis here on the blaze.

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    • Sosorryforyou
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:03pm

      Conservative Beckhater – right, just like the English, Dutch and Spanish assimulated to the Native American way-of-life when they first come here. Diversity is what makes America the great nation she is!

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    • conservative beckhater
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:08pm

      voxpimply, people used to emigrate to the USA and try to fit in by adopting western dress and customs. It works better than moving here to reap the benefits but refusing to become westernized and setting up your own subculture. Sooner or later we’re going to lose our identity as a nation and turn into fractured, divided failure of a country, like so many nations in Europe are. Funny how leftists like yourself are fine with the destruction of western civilzation. A lot of Americanst still aren’t.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:18pm

      Yeah..nice try POXPIMPLY…but the American left has been trying to silence Christians in this country for decades.
      How’s that Chick Fil A thing working out for you PIMPLES?

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    • sWampy
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:19pm

      Yes we did, but until this eastern religion push came, everyone got a long. There is just something about these peaceful eastern religions, they never turn out to be so peaceful, Gandhi, sided with Hitler, the Muslims sided with Hither, come to think of it, Hitler was obsessed with all the eastern religions, and they all seemed intrigued by him.

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    • Copo
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:41pm

      @Swampy I wouldn’t consider something to come out of Arabia to be eastern. While not by the Arabs, the middle east was the original center of world civilization, and we owe the fact that we are so advanced to early advancements made by the Mesopotamian cultures. That being said most of the eastern religions are mostly peaceful (there are instances of that being untrue), and though pagan and mystical, will not have anyone going around with a bomb under their vest ready to blow people up in the name of their pagan idol. Also, you probably think that Islam came from Arabic paganism, but the archaeological evidence says otherwise. The only mentioning of Muhammad within 50 years of his life said that there was a prophet who claimed to hold the Keys of Heaven. Also Islamic coins had crosses on them, then crosses and moons, and finally just moons. This points towards Islam starting as an arian (not aryan, just in case you don’t know what arianism is) papist sect that, because of its oral rather than written nature, inherited so many ideals from Arabic paganism that it is a completely different religion now.

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    • conservative beckhater
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:16pm

      Sosorryforeskin, your statement is ridiculous. Is that the best you can do? Make absurd comments like that?

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  • Kilmerfan
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:08pm

    a person of interest is nice way of saying suspect.

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  • finders75
    Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:07pm

    I know a few Indian’s and they are very nice and respectful people. The Muslim’s hate these people about as much as the hate america. all the Indians I have met love and support America. This is so sad that this happened to them.

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    • gbo
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:54pm

      This is sad when it happens to anyone. It is also sad when a government cannot or will not protect its citizenry from such attacks. I’m not sure a federal agency should be handling this case in light of a possible conflict of interest on the part of the DOJ.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:09pm

      I agree. As far as I know, the Sikhs are peace loving people. This was insane.

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    • SanDiegoCountyCitizen
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:37pm

      @GBO
      The government cannot, and is not responsible under the social contract, to protect us from individual criminals. That is each and every citizens individuals own responsibility. Looking to government for such unobtainable goals and related false promises will lead us down the road of serfdom and enslavement… take it from a disarmed serf in California!

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