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Priests Gone Wild? Explosive Trial Exposes Messy Record on Sex Crimes in Philadelphia Archdiocese

PHILADELPHIA (AP/The Blaze) — A string of Roman Catholic priests testified Wednesday in a landmark clergy-abuse case, saying they reported fellow priests to the archdiocese after finding them with pornography or in unhealthy relationships with children. (Related: Landmark Philly Priest Abuse Trial to Commence on Monday.)

The priests, uncomfortably, are prosecution witnesses in the trial of a longtime supervisor in the Philadelphia archdiocese, Monsignor William Lynn. The former secretary for clergy is charged with endangering children by allegedly helping the church cover up abuse complaints.

The Rev. Joseph Okonski told jurors Wednesday that he found pornographic magazines and videos, and a sexually explicit letter to a seventh-grade boy, in another priest’s bedroom in 1995.

The graphic letter, which purported to be from a classmate, asked if the boy wanted oral sex. The author said he fantasized about seeing the boy getting spanked by his father. The boy was told to write “Yes” on a bulletin board at the parish school if he wanted to engage in sex acts with his “secret lover.”

Okonski’s housemate admitted writing the letter and soon left the parish, Okonski said. But the next trial witness said the priest landed at his rectory, where he worked with altar boys and had no restrictions on his ministry.

The pattern of abuse may go back quite far. One adult man testified that when he was a student at a Philadelphia area Catholic high school, one priest stalked him, locked him in a conference room and sexually assaulted him, with no consequences. The Huffington Post reported:

In a far-reaching sex crimes coverup trial underway in Philadelphia, a former Catholic high school student testified today that a priest stalked him, locked him in a school conference room and ordered him to unzip his pants.

The student — now a 36-year-old man — said loud banging on the locked door halted the priest, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

The explosive testimony came on the third day of a historic trial against two Roman Catholic priests in the Philadelphia archdiocese. The Rev. James Brennan is accused of attempting to rape a 14-year-old boy in 1996. Monsignor William Lynn is accused of two counts of endangering the welfare of a child for covering up cases of molestation and abuse by members of the clergy.

Prosecutors argue that abusive priests were, at best, transferred if they got in trouble, then left to seek out new victims.

The witnesses, on cross-examination, said the archbishop had the final say in priest transfers. Lynn could make recommendations, but the late Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua or his successor, retired Cardinal Justin Rigali, made the decision, they said.

“Inevitably, any movement of priests is done by the archbishop,” Okonski said.

The priests testified that they put in awkward positions by the behavior of men with whom they lived and worked.

A pastor said he was tasked with finding out which priest had ordered the X-rated movies that showed up on their cable bill.

Another called the Office for Clergy because his pastor had an all-consuming relationship with a young boy. Father Michael Hennelly said he was concerned, especially after hearing about the pastor’s last such relationship, after a fallout with the boy had ended violently. Hennelly soon asked for a transfer.

“For my well-being, I couldn’t live and work there,” he said.

Hennelly later joined the Office of Clergy staff in 2004, the same year Lynn finished his 12-year stint as its director. He described working with priests trying to achieve what he called “sexual sobriety.”

St. John Vianney, a church-run hospital in Downingtown, had “Sexaholics Anonymous” meetings devoted exclusively to priests. Others attended “Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous,” Hennelly said.

There are about 800 priests in the Philadelphia archdiocese. More than 60 have been accused of molesting children since 1948, although only a few have ever been charged. About 500 Catholic priests in the U.S. have been convicted of sexual-abuse charges, according to the advocacy group BishopAccountability.org.

But no church supervisors were ever charged for mishandling abuse complaints until Lynn.

Prosecutors in Philadelphia issued two explosive grand jury reports on priest sexual abuse in 2005 and 2011. They blasted Rigali and Bevilacqua but concluded they could not make a case against either, in part because of legal time limits.

New accusations led Lynn to be charged last year with felony child endangerment and conspiracy. He faces up to 28 years if convicted. Prosecutors call the archdiocese an unindicted co-conspirator in his case.

Four others were charged in the same indictment with sexually assaulting boys. The Rev. James Brennan is on trial with Lynn. Defrocked priest Edward Avery will serve 2-1/2 to five years after pleading guilty last week to sexual assault and conspiracy. And the Rev. Charles Engelhardt and former Catholic school teacher Bernard Shero are set for trial later this year. They are accused of raping the same boy that Avery assaulted.

All but Avery have pleaded not guilty.

Comments (76)

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  • Aerocog
    Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:23am

    I wish more people in the world were more self-aware about their actions and how it affects their communities, especially religiously leaders who represent such important central role in the lives of people.

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  • Saved Forever
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:40pm

    The road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.

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    • burnbabylon
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:45am

      I think the road to hell is full of people who pretend to have good intentions on their minds. It just looks paved.

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  • Robert999
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:31pm

    These are liberal Democrat priests, not conservative Republicans. There are no conservative homosexuals or child abusers.

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    • Matt
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:01pm

      That is one of the top ten most ignorant things I have ever heard a person say. Apples and oranges. Politics has almost nothing to do with morals. It is based on ideology. If all you have ever been exposed to is communist literature you can be a great person morally and legitimately believe that communism is correct.

      Child molesting has to do with personal ethics. Ethics has to do with your conscience. We all have consciences, we all know right from wrong. Child molesters molest because they choose to be evil. Democrats do stupid liberal things because they are ignorant.

      Ignorance is not malevolence.

      but then, you already knew that, since you didn’t post malevolently. ;)

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    • Matt
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:04pm

      By the way, I am a hardcore libertarian conservative and liberal ignorance drives me crazy.

      But so does ignorance that comes from stupid republicans who think that just because they have a better political ideology that somehow they are saints and that people in their party can do no wrong.

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  • VoteRightDammit
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:29pm

    It is deceptive to call these perverts “Priests”

    These are GAY PEDOPHILES WHO INVADED THE PRIESTHOOD.

    The CC certainly holds its share of blame in this mess for not reporting the pedophiles to the police at the first hint. The same thing happened (on a worse scale) in our public schools, and the schools generally handled the mess in the same way (by NOT reporting the pedophiles but, rather, transferring them to another district). The CC is guilty as He!!.

    But it was the GAY PEDOPHILES, masquerading as priests, who raped the children. To THEM goes eternal damnation.

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    • bigmel754
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:50am

      Amen!

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    • RobMac68
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:33pm

      I think the CC is to blame in another area also. In 1 Cor 7:6 Pauls writes something by permission and not of commandment. In verse 7 He writes that he would that all men were as myself (unmarried) but each has their own gift from God. In verse 9 He writes that if they can’t contain, let them marry. It is better to marry than to burn. Paul himself, who btw wrote 13 or 14 books of the New Testament, did not command missionaries or preachers not to marry. He said we each have our own gift. But the Catholic Church forbids their priests to marry. Not even Paul was that gutsy. When you go against God’s word, bad things happen.

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  • BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:28pm

    All I have to say is “EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL”. That includes priests, representatives, the president of the United States, lawyers, janitors, preachers, ditch diggers, and whoever else breaks the law.

    These priests must have lost all fear of the Lord when they committed these acts. Well, I can assure you of one thing…… They will gain a healthy dose of that fear back when they see God at judgement.

    “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom…” Proverbs 9:10

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  • LostInTheCosmos
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:02pm

    A lot of these deviant priests (and the administrators who shuffled them around) were trained by Progressives who started infiltrating the Catholic Church to take it down from the inside.

    For more information check here in episodes 1 and 2:
    http://www.realcatholictv.com/cia/

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  • chips1
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:00pm

    Lucifer has his minions in positions of authority all over the world. Obama, Barney, Pelosi,Putin, etc. Churches have beenreduced to power grabs and the sheeple follow politely. Time to go back to basics. That means the Bible and also the Constitution. You can’t compromise with evil.

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  • bigmel754
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:52pm

    “The pattern of abuse may go back quite far. One adult man testified that when he was a student at a Philadelphia area Catholic high school, one priest stalked him, locked him in a conference room and sexually assaulted him, with no consequences”.
    You want to know how to stop this crap? Tell the truth! These are gay men who for years have conducted their lewd behavior in the disguise of being an exposed pedophile; they will continue to destroy young men lives until you start stopping the push that being gay is ok! How many of these young men are now deep into the homosexual life style not by their choice but by a gay predator! How many are now trying to convince themselves and others they were born gay! Crapola!

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  • 9635kari
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:33pm

    Men are not meant to be celibate!!!!! God made man to procreate and to bond with his wife. I believe that many of these men over the years have gone into the priesthood for the very purpose of finding a young boy. They are so protected from the law. Until these men are allowed to marry, this will go on and on.

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:02pm

      9635kari – Man is not as an animal. We all have different callings to act upon given to us by God Himself. We each must use restraint at times that we cannot comprehend for His reasons, not ours. Celibacy is a gift to some.

      Revelation 14
      The Lamb and the 144,000
      1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

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    • onegodinkansas
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:32pm

      1 Tim 4:1-3
      4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

      2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

      3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
      KJV

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    • LostInTheCosmos
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:45am

      @OneGodInKansas: You’re missing the context of Scripture. The Catholic Church does not forbid people to marry. That was a doctrine of the Gnostics who forbade people to marry because they believed that the material world is evil. Catholics elevate marriage to a Sacrament – holy and resembling the relationship between Christ and his Bride.

      Every single person is encouraged to stay chaste (no sex outside of marriage). Priests, because of the missionary life of ministry, are asked to take vows to remain single for the rest of their lives.

      And abstaining from meats? Have you never fasted like Paul asks?

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    • mycomet123
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:58am

      Matthew 19:10-12 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband & a wife it is better not to marry.” Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those whom it has been given. For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by by men; and OTHERS HAVE RENOUNCED MARRIAGE BECAUSE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. THE ONE WHO CAN ACCEPT THIS SHOULD ACCEPT IT.”

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    • Sh3LLz
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:55pm

      But even if a person does not want to marry, it was never a biblical COMMANDMENT that they couldn’t. So MAKING someone take a vow of celibacy as a REQUIREMENT to be a minister, from a DOCTRINAL standpoint is indeed a TEACHING of DEMONS. It is FALSE.

      1Tim 4: 1-3 Stands.

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    • Sh3LLz
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:57pm

      Furthermore, There is no reason a man and his wife could not both be missionaries. Its a false teaching.

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:28pm

    There are approximately 410,593 priests Worldwide in the Catholic Church as of 02/12. I am so grateful that the Church is assisting, once again, in the effort to condemn & punish those pedophiles & sex offenders who took advantage (molested/raped) of the innocents. Justice has been & will be served, and any who allowed this crime to continue will be punished by God if not by earthly Judicial means. The entire Catholic Church, all of the Catholics in the world are not guilty of these crimes. The evil, sinful “priests” involved in this crime are the guilty. Satan has & will infiltrate & destroy any who are weak & willing to turn their backs on God for their own pleasures. The Church is repenting & reforming & Satan doesn’t like it. God forgive us & help us all who judge.

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  • thriceconcussed
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:21pm

    What about the evangelical ministers with their prostitutes and embezzling from parishes? Wait, maybe bad people are everywhere, and it’s a sign of a deteriorating American culture… Don’t think to hard, I know evangelicals are mostly ignorant peasants.

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  • hi
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:17pm

    I couldn’t read the entire article. Anyone who harms an in ocent child is going straight to hell. Pedophiles are the devil.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:14pm

    But, but, the priests are forbidden to engage in any form of sex whatsoever, so there is no way anyone who would want to hide deviant sexual behavior would ever hide behind a CAREER BASED ON CELIBACY ……… Would they ???????????? Hey pope, HINT, if u want to attract some normal people to your “ religion” let them marry people of the OPPOSITE SEX ,,,,,,, duhhhhevery pervert in the world is attracted to the…… I’ve never had sex in my life ,,,,DEFENSE !!!!

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:22pm

      so what do you say to the teachers,coachs, and pastors and ministers WHO are allowed to marry?!

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    • CrazyChuck
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:05am

      Are you postulating that only celebate people engage in “deviant sexual behaviour?” Hmmm?
      One quick look at the sexual deviant list of the state registry of sexual preditors prove your statment incorrect.

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  • edmundburk
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:10pm

    look, i‘m not trying to make excuses for the priest’s who behave horrendiously, but I am sick and tried of holier then thou evengelicals who use this as a oppportunity to make trash the catholixc faith. as a former protestant, I can say with a athority that the evengelicals have plenty of things to apologize for.

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    • Onowicit
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:24pm

      @edmundburk

      I don’t think anyone will disagree with ya there, and if they do I’ll be the first evangelical to kick there ace.
      remember smile, people can see your face when your typing.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:44pm

      LOL! I am sorry, I love jesus and I love the catholic faith, I just get worked up when people trash it. sorry for the spelling, I try to be carefull when I type, but as you can tell, I was a very disengaged high school student. by the way, what is up with the whole whore of babylon thing?

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    • Onowicit
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:08pm

      @edmundburk
      Maybe we should think of something to call the EvilAngelicallgirls, thats just off the top. Get the point! Who cares if they or I call your church the whore of Babylon. How about IslamBAMthankyoumams. I don’t care about your church their church, I use humor as a hammer and it seems to work. Lets beat the HELL out of all evildoers. Drink some easy tea, make your point, have some fun. Sometimes it‘s fun to fight it’s just all in how ya go about it. I get blasted all the time. Happy trail BlAZing. I‘m sure I’ll read you around.

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  • AdrianRuehl
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:06pm

    “However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron; forbidding to marry…” 1 Tim. 4:1-3

    Forbidding to marry was a teaching of demons because it surpressed a natural God given desire, a very strong one at that. When it is repressed it finds ways to come out such as this and molestation. Sad.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:27pm

      wasn’t it saint paul and jesus who said to remain celibut was a superior state? just sayin’.

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    • Onowicit
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:32pm

      @edmundburk
      Paul also said it is better to marry than to burn.

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    • punyhuman
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:45pm

      Yeah, ya might wanna check 1 timothy 3:1-12 before ya claim celibacy is taught in the bible. maybe you can find it there, but I can’t.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:52pm

      That is true, however, there are 2 points to make 1. the early church fathers said that priests should be celibut and 2. that people entering the priesthood have a retreat to disearn weather(SP) or not the priest hood is the vocation for them. if they feel they can’t keep their sexual urges under control, they should not become a priest.

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    • punyhuman
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:59pm

      sorry, that was supposed to be directed @ edmundburk.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:11pm

      @PUNYHUMAN- so your saying that both jesus ans st. paul both said that celibicy was the supiour state?

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    • punyhuman
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:14pm

      Fair enough. I’m just sayin what the bible says. what the early church fathers and the catholic church taught and teach doesn’t necessarily follow what the bible says. they do their own thing.

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    • punyhuman
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:47pm

      Not really. I’m just saying read your bible. if you want to read celibacy into that scripture, go ahead. Peter was married, Paul was not. at least according to the bible. a lot of the apostles were married, a few were not. there was no command not to marry, and no command to marry. Paul also said that those who didn’t marry may be more effective ministers if they chose to remain single. If They Chose To. Christ approved marriage, his first miracle was at a wedding feast. There’s more. Read your bible

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    • Rekindledfire
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:06am

      Some try to claim that this verse represents the Catholic Church because in the Roman Catholic Rite – The Priests and Nuns are to be Celibate and not marry and during Lent we abstain from meat on Fridays. But one must know what the Catholic Church really teaches and then read this verse closely and in context. It is then that we see that the verse is not speaking of the Catholic Church at all.

      In this verse, Paul is actually referring to the Gnostic’s. An early church Heresy. The Gnostics felt that marriage was bad.

      We know this is what Paul is talking about because for one thing – Paul is a Celibate himself and would not condemn celibacy in his own letter. And we know that Paul speaks highly of Marriage in other letter to the Corinthians.

      We also know because he makes it clear later in 1 Tim 6:20 when he warns Timothy to stay away from the babbling of those of “Knowledge” – Referring to the Gnostics.

      Catholics do not forbid Marriage. Marriage is a Sacrament. Our Priest and Religious vow a consecration to Celibacy as Paul did simply as a Discipline of the Roman Rite. There is strong Biblical Evidence to support this.

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    • punyhuman
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 12:45am

      ok then, would anyone like a piece of cheese?

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  • valleyfever
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:06pm

    Any male, priest or layman (no pun intended) who molests another male sexually is a homosexual predator. Predator priests need to be in jail. Those who covered for them also need to be in jail. Interestingly however, the same laws that protect the average person from being fired now also applies to priests. You’ve gotta have a case against them that will stand up in court.

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  • kegbuna
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:56pm

    Does something draw a certain kind of people to priesthood, or are priests the only ones to get caught? We’ve seen a bunch of stories about teachers and coaches, but it seems like priests blow them all out of the water. I think part of it may be that they feel these urges early and hope that going into a life of piety can cure them, though they only find temptation.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:31pm

      @kegbuna
      Yes, something draws a certain type of pervert to the priesthood, it’s called CELIBACY, and the protection and defense it affords pedophiles and closet homosexuals, CELIBACY is more abnormal than homosexuality, sorry, and I was born and raised catholic , along with 6 wonderful siblings , we all attended catholic schools, and not one of us is a practicing catholic…..not one ! Let them marry people of the opposite sex, and they will attract people who are not hiding their perversions. PERIOD ! Celibacy, isn’t normal, a d for the most part, as we now see isn’t happening… Don’t mean to offend you Catholics, but oh we’ll if I do… Sorry !

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:31pm

      I think that preist’s get more pubisity because it is the catholic church is involved. and we know that the catholic church is under attack right now. wake up evengelicals after the catholics, YOUR NEXT!!

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    • chips1
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:07pm

      I agree with your post. Not one story about the perverts that work at Sears.

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    • Gr8ful1jim
      Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:27am

      There are limits put in place on how much you can sue a coach or teacher or school system. There is no limit on how much you can sue the Catholic Church. That is why you see and hear so much more about priests.

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  • hatchetjob
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:31pm

    Are there no priests who are pure anymore? These creeps are an abomination.

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    • REPUB1
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:34pm

      not catholic anyway

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    • proliance
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:54pm

      If you read the same article I did then you saw that there were many priests who turned the guilty ones in.

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  • burnbabylon
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:29pm

    They could have sent them to be missionaries…in Saudi Arabia.

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  • welovetheUSA
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:12pm

    Here we go again………..democrats trying to take the churches down…………Heathcare…….healthcare….Obamacare……….bye.

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  • burnbabylon
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:12pm

    Matt 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
    30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

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  • Onowicit
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:08pm

    Really! A priest sex scandal…NO!

    They are not called the WHORE of Babylon for nothing. Did I just say that out loud?

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    • REPUB1
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:22pm

      YES YA DID IT!!! and Bless Ya for you can SEE you can SEE another Real Christian AT LAST!!

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:26pm

      the stupid evengelicals strick again

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:29pm

      How do we know it wasn’t Nuns going wild?

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    • Onowicit
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:52pm

      @edmundburk
      Stupid evangelicals. Thats the best you have got. Listen, there are weirdos enough for us all. Have fun get all over the Evangelicals. Why don’t we hold them all accountable: Evangelicals, Catholics, Muslims. Atheist, Republics, Democrats, Conservatives, Liberals, that guy down the street from me. If evil lifts its head shoot it.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:06pm

    Wasn’t the Pope in town? They really thought they were ordering “Passion of the Christ”

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:29pm

      After the bakers,swaggart and rick warren you evengelicals can still throw stones, you have no shame!

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:34pm

      I am actually Catholic, with sense of humor.

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    • Onowicit
      Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:40pm

      @edmundburk
      Its not the dressing in black smoking cigarettes drinking wine and watching porn that every one has a problem with, Its the little boy stuff that bugs us. And for the record you are right about all the TV guys you named we don’t like them either.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:06pm

    This is not a Priest or Religious thing… this is a Human thing, were a percentage of people will Deviate from the Accepted Normal (where there is actually No Normal, only Typical)!

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  • marybethelizabeth
    Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:05pm

    Young Mr. Holt. The memo must be on that table that acts as your desk, to whit:

    “We Are All Catholics Now!!”

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