Principal of IA High School Resigns Following Christian Band’s Lecture on Gays & Abortion
- Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:27am by
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Bradlee Dean (Image Credit: YouTube)
DUNKERTON, Iowa (The Blaze/AP) — Earlier this week, we told you about Bradlee Dean and his band, Junkyard Prophets. Their performance at an Iowa public high school has made headlines across the nation and has inspired a fair amount of controversy.
Now, the principal of the secondary school that allowed members of a Christian rock band to espouse their anti-gay, anti-abortion views while showing students images of fetuses that had apparently been aborted is resigning, the district superintendent said.
Mike Cooper, who oversees grades 7-12 at the school in Dunkerton, will tender his resignation Monday and remain on the job through the end of the school year, Dunkerton Superintendent Jim Stanton told the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier for a story published Tuesday.
Cooper declined to comment to the newspaper Tuesday about his pending departure, and he did not immediately respond Wednesday to a phone message left at his office by The Associated Press.
Below, watch Dean defend himself amid massive controversy:
Stanton said Cooper‘s decision is not related to Cooper’s recommendation that the district invite the band Junkyard Prophet to perform at last week’s assembly, and said the plan had been “in the works” for nearly a month.
“He simply wants to be a superintendent,” Stanton said, acknowledging that the timing of the announcement suggested there might be more to it.
Several students and parents said they were puzzled at why the band was invited to the school in Dunkerton, which is 70 miles northwest of Iowa City. The band is affiliated with a Minnesota group, You Can Run But You Cannot Hide, that describes itself as a Christian ministry and that states its extremely conservative views on social issues on its website. The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies it as a hate group.
Students said the March 8 assembly kicked off with a performance by the band and discussion about how some music can negatively influence young people. They said the group then tried to impress upon students that homosexuality, sex and abortion are wrong, displaying images of aborted fetuses on a screen above the stage.
Here’s the portion of the address that covers infanticide, Planned Parenthood and offers some other graphic themes and pictures (caution: graphic images):
Jennifer Littlefield told the La Crosse Tribune, of Wisconsin, that her daughter Alivia, who is a junior at the school, called her crying so hard after the assembly that she could barely understand her.
“They told my daughter, the girls, that they were going to have mud on their wedding dresses if they weren’t virgins,” said Littlefield, who also said she didn’t appreciate what she described as gay bashing.
“They told these kids that anyone who was gay was going to die at the age of 42. It just blows me away that no one stopped this,” she said.
And here’s the segment of the speech with a focus on homosexuality (caution: adult subject matter):
Stanton apologized to students last week and said he shocked by the group’s message, which he says contradicts the message of tolerance and acceptance that the district stresses.
At a special board meeting Tuesday night, Stanton outlined a plan for the district to deal with the fallout from the assembly and prevent similar problems in the future, including providing counseling for students and faculty members who request it, bolstering the district’s diversity curriculum, notifying parents before future assemblies and vetting future performers more thoroughly.
Some parents said the changes weren’t enough and they called on Stanton to resign as well.
“The kids are suffering over this deal and, Mr. Stanton, you signed the checks,” Tim Westergreen said. “I respectfully ask for your resignation.”
Stanton said he does not plan to quit, and several school board members, including its president, Alen Nagel, said they had no interest in seeing Stanton resign.
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Comments (122)
DeavonReye
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 5:11pmRegardless of which position is correct, as discussed by this speaker, the school was in violation of the establishment clause for having an openly christian slanted speaker preaching to someone else’s kids. If you wish for YOUR kids to be preached at, take them to your church of choice or enroll them in one of the many christian grade school in this country. However, consider YOUR kids sitting in the same room, required to listen to a man promoting the phylosophies of Allah. . . . or a Wiccan High Priestess explaining about the Goddess! There should be no room in the public arena to force ideologies onto kids without the consent of their parents.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 5:20pm@DEAVONREYE: YOU SAID: “There should be no room in the public arena to force ideologies onto kids without the consent of their parents”. Unfortunately THAT is exactly what they are doing!
Report Post »http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Family/public_schools_are_evil.htm
LydiaLydia
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 6:07pmI know the left has no issue having an openly homosexual slanted speaker preaching to someone else’s kids while providing no truth about the high rate of disease in the homosexual community. Just check the CDC stats on what lifestyles/relationships are the highest risk for contracting AIDS/HIV and STD’s, men with men and bisexuals. If the schools want to promote homosexuality the facts should be presented also. The gay community does not care about kids or they would present all the facts. It has always amazed me that parents even let their children be influenced by gays involved in such abnormal relationships they cannot have children. I fully support Bradlee Dean the truth machine.
Report Post »Valkaneer
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 6:27pm@DeavonReye Know what im sick of … people who don’t understand English. What is the definiton of religion? What is religion? Why are you trying to force the Atheist religon down people throats. That’s right, I did say Atheist Religon. EVERY person has a religion. If you understood english you would know that. Do you know for years states had there own state religion, and it was not against the constitution. Know your facts and learn a little bit about this thing called word definitions.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:48amFWIW, Lydia, . . . I don’t think they should have a speaker coming in to talk about the pros of homosexuality either. If they want to talk about tolerence of various groups, maybe, but many of these issues should be personal and/or discussed at home. Parents just want schools to do their job for them.
Valkaneer, did you notice that you said “…states HAD their own…”. The nation, nor its states should be in the business of directing religious belief. They are there to make “business” decisions to keep the state running. They have no place in the religious arena.
And again, . . . schools have NO business having religiously based speakers preaching to students without consent of parents. I ask YOU, Valkaneer, . . . would you be okay with a Wiccan High Priestess addressing the wonderful and fulfilling aspects of Wicca to your kids? So, . . .be “sick of” whatever you want, but that is all on you . . . and you should learn to get over such things.
As for atheist [I'm agnostic, actually] being “a religion”, . . . does “not collecting stamps” make that a hobby? Does “not smoking” make that a habit? Just because you don’t understand the true definition of “atheism” doesn’t make your definition of it valid.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:11amAlso, on the erroneous notion that “atheism is a religion”, . . . it is a rejection of religion. If “rejection of a religion is . . a religion”, then “not playing football is a sport”. And absence of belief, such as atheism, is the same as the absence of belief in any number of things. It has no justifications, no creeds, no corollary obligations, no dependence upon unproven propositions, no faith, no rules or rituals or affirmations. . . . so it’s just silly to say that atheism is a religion.
Report Post »texasbeta
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:53am@Valkaneer – Maybe YOU should read the Dictionary once in a while. Speaking of definitions – A religion must have a supernatural force behind it. IT IS IN THE DEFINITION! Moron. Atheism, by definition, DOESN’T HAVE A SUPERNATURAL FORCE BEHIND IT.
Report Post »Seriously…like debating a retarded turnip.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:55amThe speaker wasn’t talking about religion so his religious ideology has nothing to do with his lecture.
Report Post »Fact is that the only way kids can get both sides of the argument is to allow a pro-life and pro hetro speaker or teacher to talk about. And if that speaker or teacher is Christian that does’nt matter. Using your illogical stance any Christian teacher can be removed if they don’t tow the liberal ideology line.
Everything he said was factual YOU liberalS call CONSERVATIVES CLOSED MINDED but it’s always the Liberals that try to silence any other views…..YOUR HYPOCRACY IS IN FULL VIEW FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 11:04amDEAVONREYE Wrote
Report Post »,Also, on the erroneous notion that “atheism is a religion”, . . . it is a rejection of religion
Religion-specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects
Athiest fundamentally agree that Christianity is wrong and backward . They farther more believe in unproven scientific theories that require as much faith as believeing in Christ. Atheism is the RELIGION OF ANTI-CHRISTIANITY.
.YOU’RE IN CULT CONGRATS NOW HAVE SOME MORE KOOL AID
DeavonReye
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 11:26amSmith, I’m not going to argue with you if you continue to misrepresent what Atheism is about.
So, what “unproven scientific theories” require as much faith as “a magic being who defies the laws of physics in order to impress a few desert dwelling sheep herders” and includes stories of “a talking snake”, “a talking donkey”, “a man who looses his strength because his hair is cut”, or many of the other ridiculous notions found in the bible?
Also, are you aware of what the definition of “theory” means IN science? Did you know that gravity is considered a theory?
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 11:40amFurthermore, . . . “ideologies” should not be expressed in a school. . . . liberal or conservative. The purpose of schools SHOULD be to teach kids what they need in order to prosper their chances at the university level and in the job market. Any teacher, regardless of religious affiliation, should have no fear of reprisal if they are teaching their specific field of study.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 12:37pmTHEORY MEANS THEORY IN EVERY LANGUAGE. WHEN THEORY HAS UNDENIABLE FACTS TO BACK IT,IT BECOMES A LAW OF SCIENCE. Issac Newton’s theory of gravity once proven became the LAW OF GRAVITY. IF YOU CAN’T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE STAY OUT OF THE FORUM.
Report Post »Anyone who believes in something that can’t be proven beyond doubt…uses faith to justify the belief.
IF YOU GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGTHER THAT SHARES THE SAME FAITH IN AN UNPROVEN SUBJECT —-YOU HAVE RELIGION.
CONGRATS YOU’RE IN A RELIGION …NOW IT’S BACK TO THE KOOL AID PITCHER FOR YOU
ONE MORE THING JUST TO CHEW ON WHILE YOU WHINE IN YOUR DIXIE CUP OF IDIOT JUICE
Charles Manson had no god and he had his own religion…just like your.
DeavonReye
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 1:29pmI‘m not sure why my post didn’t get posted. . . I’ll have to re-enter it.
Smith, why are you so angry and using all caps? Do you think that makes your point more relevant? The theory of gravity has ample evidence to make it as a law, within our current knowledge. But it isn’t an actual law universally. As for what you would state as “atheist’s faith”, if you research talkorigins.org, you will find ample evidence for evolution based UPON actual science.
Anyone should find it interesting that it usually is the proponent of religion that DOES resort to personal attacks.
In fact, some laws, such as the law of gravity, can also be theories when taken more generally. The law of gravity is expressed as a single mathematical expression and is presumed to be true all over the universe and all through time. Without such an assumption, we can do no science based on gravity’s effects. But from the law, we derived the theory of gravity which describes how gravity works, what causes it, and how it behaves. We also use that to develop another theory, Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, in which gravity plays a crucial role. The basic law is intact, but the theory expands it to include various and complex situations involving space and time.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 1:59pmNo matter how many ways you spin it Evolution is a theory. Scientific or other wise. And to a larger prospective it‘s a theory who founder confessed a hatred toward God after his daughter’s death.
Report Post »If the scientist put forth a thoery that man was placed here by a hyper intilligent being from another world and used the great structures in egypt,asia,and south america as the bases of that thoery . atheist like yourself would be more willing to swallow it…..WHY because your religion sole purpose is to destroy Christianity first and foremost…..
Actual enlightment isn’t any part of your agenda never was if it was you would want to debate every chance that came up.
DeavonReye
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:11pmSmith, thank you for the non-caps.
First, let me point out that I am agnostic. I just understand where atheists are coming from. I can’t disprove that a god type being exists somewhere in the universe, but have seen no credible evidence for believing such an ideology. But such a stance doesn’t make me “religious” about it. I rather have no allegeance to any specific group or physolophy. But I must acknowledge the scientific data discovered which has shown evolution to be evidential and supported by several disciplines.
It is the same with the atheist, . . . and why atheism cannot be called a “religion based upon faith”. I cannot speak for every person who claims to be an atheist, . . . and not being one myself, but I do not “have faith” in that which is incapable of evidentiary support. I accept the accomplishments of those scientists who have shown examples of how evolutionary principles work, and have been demonstrated. Again, talkorigins.org is where you can find much information on this topic.
As for “destroying christianity”, that is not my position. I post my opinion. People choose their own paths.
Report Post »garylee123
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:59pmGoing to try and be consistent. This shouldn’t be in the schools any more than Planned Parenthood or Oblammo re-election posters.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 5:05pmI agree! But Planned parenthood AND Oblamma ARE in the schools and we haven’t been able to get them out….soooooooooo
Report Post »Same thing with evolution. IF evolution is taught then creation should be taught too!
texasbeta
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:56amActually, no election posters are in school, by law. There isn’t one in one school, so you are lying – AGAIN. Secondly, Planned Parenthood goes to schools to discuss STDs and contraception, things that, unlike some of the fundamentalist extremist psychos in the country have a problem with, the rest of the country knows that they are very much needed topics.
Report Post »Finally – No, morons, creationism isn’t the alternative to evolution. One is based upon scientific discovery, fossil records, isotopic dating and the like…and the other is based upon the idea that a magic man in the clouds waved his hands, created everything in a week, that people lived for 900 years, talked to donkeys, and lived inside fish for 3 days. No, fairy tales are not on par with science.
wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:25pmYes, you‘re right but animals also don’t have the ability to surgically remove a fetus from their body like we do.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:46pmMy point was “we” as humans are supposed to be a lil bit better than mere animals who act on pure self serving instinct and survival are we not? The #1 reason people have abortions is for convienence and selfishness (no money or time to have a baby-don’t want to be pregnant right now).
Report Post »The reason we humans get rid of, kill, abort our children is because we want to do it quietly in the shadows where nobody can see or know about “it”. Because we all have a conscience and we know we are sinning against God. But ahhh God sees all and knows all and you can “Be sure your sin will find you out” (Num 32:23).
Animals were made for us to enjoy or use for food and they don‘t have a conscious the way we do so they aren’t trying to hide anything..they will do dumb stuff right in front of us.
kalli
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:12pmWow, I wonder if these kids who are so upset with being told the truth about abortion know how really lucky they are that their parents didn’t decide to abort them, or that their parents were not gay so they could be born! And, I guess the Christian right are the extremists, and the leftists are the all knowing humanists who have no god to thank for their blessed little lives so they thank themselves. Truth is the leftists are the most clueless and braindead humans alive who have been served the propaganda from the mouth of the devil himself.
Report Post »BenKatz
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:30pmGot it all figured out don’t you. Gosh you’re so smart.
Report Post »kalli
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:39pmBENKATZ: sorry you don’t and are a little slow.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:51pmNot even animals tear babies out of their wombs before they are born!!! Aren’t we supposed to be a little higher than the animals??? Unfortunately most aren’t.
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:02pmAnimal infanticide:
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/17/science/infanticide-animal-behavior-scrutinized-for-clues-to-humans.html?pagewanted=all
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:23pmLOL if I remember right, I said; “animals don’t “tear their babies out of their own wombs”….umm…get it? I do realize that some animals kill their own young. I had a boxer once that had 10 puppies and she was overwhelmed and ate the weakest one when I was out.
Report Post »But..ONLY HUMANS can be selfish enough to tear them out of their own wombs to kill them before they even know what they would become. It is called sin.
wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:27pmSo saying animals don’t do that is absurd. If an animal attempted to remove a fetus, it would die. It’s an absurd argument. I attempted to make the best refutation of your argument I could using the closest comparable practice, animal infanticide.
Report Post »texasbeta
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:59amDon’t bother. The nurse is a moron.
Report Post »hi
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:51pmI listened to the segment on homosexuality and it wasn’t full of hate, but informative. It made sense.
Homosexuality is an action that one has control over. Whereas, race is genetic.
It was sad at how many kids had broken families.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:53pmNo what is sadder than that is IF you could see how many either had abortions or knew someone who did…probably every hand would go up. Now THAT is sad!
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:15pmIf you believe abortion is so hideous, what have you done about it? I mean, if there was a serial killer in your town killing the local children and the police knew and did nothing about it, I’m pretty sure the people of the town would take it into their own hands. Yet, I see no equivalency with abortion. Typically, people talk about it but never actually take any action. In my mind, this fortunately means that even abortion opponents really don’t believe that abortion is equivalent to infanticide.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 5:16pmWVERNON1981: Well it’s a bit different when it is a “state santioned” murder…kind like Hitler, only deeply ingrained now in law. But there are many groups that I have worked for including these:
Report Post »http://prolife.com/
But you are right…IMO not enough is being done by anybody! And many of these groups use nonprofit status to be controlled by the same government that advocates abortion so they give them “rules” to follow…so…ongoing battle.
wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 8:34pmWell at least you take your position seriously. Not many people follow their reasoning to the logical implication, fortunately.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:39pmDepartment of Education, government schools, hide the truth and punish those who show it.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:58pmVery interesting
>and, well written.
Report Post »christos
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:06pmExactly what +JESUS+GOD+ had the +HOLY Prophets+ write in the +HOLY SCRIPTURES+ everything will be backwards in End Times,,good is seen as evil,evil is seen as good—freedom of speech is not being protected here,,,Liberals freedom of speech door swings only one way,the Wrong Way but it is protected why is Freedom of Speech not protected for CHRISTIANS…This band is doing an honorable Teaching Moment,,,what they are saying is TRUE…
Report Post »Bot
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 5:57pmYes, homosexuals have one-half the life expectancy of heterosexuals. Why not tell teenagers that?
Report Post »ScarletRose
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:40pmLOL! These Liberals won’t be bragging about promoting Joseph Stalinist Self Destruction on the Day they stand before their Maker and have to explain what they did with their time on this planet. They will be crying like little girly boys – blubbering.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:23pmActually, I will be fine standing in front of God when I die. I embrace my fellow brother despite their transgressions. Even you. Now the Progressives, they will need to answer for their actions. I pray for them just the same.
Report Post »ScarletRose
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:36pm42 IS the Average Life Expectancy according to the CDC of homosexual men. So I can understand why the homosexual political lobbies want to raise Cain with anyone TELLING THE TRUTH about the medical realities of their destructive lifestyle which is promoted by an old Joseph Stalin Agenda for the Destruction of America “from the inside”.
Report Post »~HOW DARE~ ANYONE TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT A DESTRUCTIVE JOSEPH STALIN AGENDA THEY ARE PROMOTING! LOL!
JohnnyMidknight
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:00pmUmmm… Historically, Stalin, Hitler and most communist countries criminalized homosexuality. It was not decriminalized in Russia until 1993 when communism fell. In the progressive world, homosexuals have no place, the are genetically not needed as they do not perpetuate the human race. The where embraced as a group of “useful idiots” to push an agenda versus the Capitalism and the bigotry of the majority of the US. It is same with many minorities and the poor. The progressives only stand with them to get the votes and collapse the system casting the illusion of the oppress as the right. With comments like yours, you are helping the progressives concrete that influence on the homosexual population.
In the end, the progressives will turn on the homosexuals, the poor, the entitled, and all those they championed in their rise to power. Much like the NAZIs and Hitler influenced power in Germany and turned on those that formed alliances. You need to look past your religious persecution of a class of people and learn tolerance though you disagree. Our are you going to form a Crusade against the Jews and Muslims next?
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:05pmA bit of hand waving on my part here, but I don’t think HIV will be a deadly issue for most homosexual men currently in their teens and twenties given our current pace of technological progress.
Report Post »Vladia
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 11:13amThat figure doesn’t come from the CDC. It’s from a debunked study by Paul Cameron of the Family Research Institute, not what one could call an unbiased source.
Report Post »jackact
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:04pmAny resignation of an employee of the dep of education is cause for celebration and a money saver.
Report Post »Good news.
hi
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:53pmNot if he becomes a superintendent. Our 50 year old retired one makes $250,000 a year.
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:01pmNa Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, Hey, Hey, Hey. Goodbyeeee
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:07pmWhere are you off to so soon? Happy Hour at the Blue Oyster?
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:03pmJust saying goodbye to the principal that allowed this.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:55amTypical left wing freedom of speech and freedom of religion hater.
Report Post »MrKnowItAll
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:52pmIf Only this guy would have gave Obama a Million Bucks. Everything would have been fine.
Report Post »Obama would have stated….”Last I knew in America, we listen to both sides of the Issue.”
sdarbro
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:09pmCheck this out: “elections”
That fantasy is adorable also.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:40pmAre children such wussies these days that they call their mommies, crying when someone says something they consider bad?
Report Post »We sat through the Crusaders and their ventrilioquist act and other groups. If we weren’t interested, we just tuned it out, we didn’t get on the phone, crying to our mommies. We didn’t have cell phones. Kids are SO spoiled nowadays, and the parents that perpetuate it should be fined for negligence or child abuse.
Gonzo
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:27pmWhen we were kids they didn’t have to tell us abortion is murder and homosexuality is unhealthy either.
Report Post »True American66
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:28pmYou are so right….we were shown actual footage of the Holocaust so that we could see what true evil looks like and our parents were supportive of it being taught. Our parents didn’t want to raise a bunch of clueless, pampered scaredy cats…they wanted us to know what the real world is all about, both sides of the issue, have the ability to make a TRULY informed decision….they wanted us to have common sense and not be led.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:18pmKids ARE wussies these days, but then again, aren’t we all?
This message was delivered to High School kids and yet The Blaze has to pre-amble the video with a warning about ADULT SUBJECT MATTER?!?! We have all been wuss-ified it would seem.
Report Post »amerbur
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:32pmIt is about time all points of views were shared with students.Some times it is hard to hear the truth.
Report Post »Caballosinnombre
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:19pmThey would have no problem inviting the real hate groups, all of which are liberal causes, to there assemblies. The days of instilling goodness in kids are gone. Now its defining your sexual orientation and learning to be tolerant of perverted behaviour.
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:05pmDefine goodness.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:25pmWVERNON1981:
Report Post »Goodness=NOT thinking t’s A-okay to murder babies with abortion all day long.
Goodness=Telling children the TRUTH that sex before marriage will harm them and having an abortion will actually make things worse NOT better.
Goodness= Being of good character, knowing what is right and wrong, and acting upon it by treating others as you would want to be treated.
I would want these people talking to my children. I would want them telling my kids not to have sex before marriage…not to have an abortion…and to be of good moral character.
If you think the opposite should be taught children than I believe that would be called bad parenting and possibly child abuse. What part of this do you disagree with? The fact that sodomy is bad? Or killing babies?
geomann
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:28pmGoodness: NOT killing babies
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 4:05pmMuch of what we call goodness is culturally subjective and some of it is biologically hard wired.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:54amWV – If you think that goodness is subjective, then being tolerant of homosexuals doesn’t make you a good person.
Report Post »Hollywoodron
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:06pmThe reporter said, “A gay student”… Why is sexualizing our kids the norm. Shouldn’t a children just be called STUDENTS? And shouldn’t we teach them which behaviors are good and which are not?
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:47pmNext they will be asking them for their sexual orientation like they are starting to do in Ca. colleges. All under the guise of anti-bullying!
Report Post »ShyMan
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:00pmWhat if they had told the audience how to properly put on a condom?
Or how easy it is to get an abortion?
No problem there I guess.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:55amMisleading title is misleading.
“Stanton said Cooper‘s decision is not related to Cooper’s recommendation that the district invite the band Junkyard Prophet to perform at last week’s assembly, and said the plan had been “in the works” for nearly a month.
“He simply wants to be a superintendent,” Stanton said, acknowledging that the timing of the announcement suggested there might be more to it.”
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:11pmSEMANTICS ALERT>>>SEMANTICS ALERT….LOCKED has locked onto some words in an article and will postulate, scrutinize, dissect and theorize with them for a good section of this board now. No syllable is safe when LOCKED is on the case.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:15pm@Avengerk
“PRINCIPAL OF IA HIGH SCHOOL RESIGNS FOLLOWING CHRISTIAN BAND’S LECTURE ON GAYS & ABORTION”
Do you feel the title implies that the principal left over the band, or that the resignation was somehow related to the fallout from it?
“Misleading” is quite accurate here.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:06pmWow you guys are talking about a lot of
‘controversy controversy’ (end of first paragraph)
If you are suggesting that these articles are left wanting (wanting basic editing that is) then I hafta agree.
More like Billy Hallo-HEAD. A-ha ha ha I make myself chuckle
Report Post »Gunonesis
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:52amGreat message, he should receive an award & be invited to speak at every school in the state!
Report Post »Polarized America
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:32pmI guess, but i think the parents should have been notified of the materiel presented to their kids in the form of a flier with some of the images. The parents should have had time to sit down with their kids to discuss the issue, and have the opportunity to opt out , that being said, i also feel the same about sex education
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:38pmthis preacher and his ministry should be closed. The Preacher is a bigot, preaching hate and nohing more.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:15pmPOLARIZED:
Bam! That comment makes a lot of sense. I don’t think the school should show this kind of lecture without a heads up to the parents.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:56amEncinom – No surprise that you hate freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
Report Post »SGinNC
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:51amWell at least Liberals can’t say that Fox news only supports Conservative positions, because after watching the Fox reporters report on this issue, it looked like they were all condemning the preacher for his views.
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:47amOMG! Someone speaking their mind/views and it offends someone! Of course Christians don’t have that right according to some of the “wise ones” on the Left. Freedom of speech is only effective if it defends the right to be offensive, in this case the graphic images of aborted fetuses. Even the reprehensible Westboro Baptist Church has the right to be as offensive as they are. This group as well. What is missing is the right of the students not to attend the assembly or to leave it if it becomes too much.
Report Post »On the other side of the coin, many Christian groups could benefit from some of the wise words my grandmother used: “it is easier to catch flies with honey than it is with vinegar. It is much more difficult to scare people into accepting Christ than it is to love them into accepting Him.
SGinNC
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:52amIts not offensive that babies are being killed hourly, it is that someone actually shows a picture of the horror.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:34pmEverything that is wrong has become right.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:54pmSGinNC
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:52am
Its not offensive that babies are being killed hourly, it is that someone actually shows a picture of the horror.
++SGinNC
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:52am
Its not offensive that babies are being killed hourly, it is that someone actually shows a picture of the horror.
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I clump of cells is not a baby.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:13pm“I clump of cells is not a baby”
Ok, typos aside. Do you think the pictures shown were of a clump of cells? If so, then what is everybody ranting about? Nothing wrong with just showing some cells clumping together.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:50pmRight ENCINOM! If it’s just a “clump of cells” as you say…then consider this a biology lecture!!!
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:42amSo actually having an abortion is ok but showing kids the reality of it is wrong? So it is ok to be extremely graphic in providing what is considered “sex” education via the Planned Parenthood playbook, where are manner of perversion and deviance is celebrated but it offends the parents and their precious little darlings to be confronted with the sinfulness of their behaviors?
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:40amoh brother, ofcourse southern poverty law communists classify them as a hate group how very intelligent of you SPL. You have all of the constitution partoes classified as such as well. Ifyou aren’t a leftist you are going to be on that list. Stupid call principal bringing this to a public school and not expecting backlash. Public=secular school whether you like it or not
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:56amThe Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group and a terrorist group.
Report Post »DonnaA
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:37am“suffering”? From a hard dose of reality! I say make it a manditory showing in our schools!
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:43amReality like the color of garments being dictated by the status of a piece of connective tissue in her reproductive tract?
Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:50amThat is what they have churches and youth ministries for. What good does it do to teach yungens about Perverts and abortions when they can not read? School assemblies are a joke and do not inspire Any one.This group probably stinks so bad no one else will have them. Better still,look them up on youtube or buy a DVD or something and show it to your own kids on their own time.On my tax dollar I want them Educated,let you tithes pay for their religious lessons.
Report Post »SGinNC
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:59amSmokey_Bojangles.. Funny you should mention education and then in the same breath say that you don’t want your kids to be shown the truth, which some would argue is getting an education. You say you don’t want this being taught, but the opposite view is being taught openly in the schools, does this also bother you?
Report Post »SGinNC
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:00pmMs. Lesbian re-look at the pictures of the murdered babies they had on display, does that look like just a pile of connective tissue? Really?!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:07pmYou don’t bring in a bunch of failed rockers to teach school children anything. Having said that…there‘s absolutely no problem with properly credentialed adults being brought in to educate children on the pitfalls of promisciuty and the reality of abortions if they’re already being taught the other aspects of this. Furthermore, it‘s important to counter the propaganda campaign in our schools that’s attempting to make homosexuality “normal”(under the liberal newspeak….“bullying”. Much like “access” to liberals now means someone else has to pay for something they demand is a “right” of theirs). Of course..the children‘s age should be a consideration in what’s acceptable material to present to them, I cannot stress that enough. The reality is that over 55% of cases of HIV each year in this country are attributed to homosexual males. That’s an overrepresentation of 2,750%. Clearly and without a shred of doubt the sexual compulsions of homosexual males are counter to the well being of human beings. It is not unfair to say that there’s something intrinsically very wrong with homosexuality when faced with the stark evidence of the results of their sexual practices. Clearly, unequivocally the sexual practices and compulsions of homosexual males are not beneficial to the species. Taking that further..homosexuality is a dead end it takes the species nowhere- in fact, it hurts us.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:08pmSo Smokey:
Telling the truth and showing it is not education ?
Yo Donnaa:
The “suffering” students probably amount to 2 students, and a couple of misguided adults that lie ..and that’s why the truth hurts. Darkness does not like the light. Simple as that!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:40pmSGINNC…liberals and their surrogates have to use euphemisms. Taking the humanity away from an unborn child makes killing that child a lot easier in their minds. So all of a sudden an unborn child becomes a “blastocyst” or “connective tissue” in this case. In this instance you have a lesbian asserting the term. For a lesbian to have a child either she had to have the child in a heterosexual relationship or a third party has to become involved. There’s a dynamic of detachment already in play. This is part of the bigger strategy by the left of eroding conscience from society. Part of that strategy is the removal of religion from prominence in society. Both of these adherences are what‘s preventing the left and it’s surrogate elements from supplanting the constitution with a piece of amorphous paper that any politician can change at a whim. “Far fetched” you say? Ginsberg was telling an Egyptian audience recently not to look to the U.S. constitution if they want a “plausible” model theirs. She echos the current leftist meme that the U.S. constitution is antiquated and not adequate for modern society. Obama himself has bemoaned the constraints the constitution places on him. My point? Conscience is something liberals and their surrogates have to erode both in what’s left in themselves and for everyone else. So using euphemisms like “connective tissue” become necessary.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:29pmAVENGER:
You are right on the money. The gay lobby tries to ‘cute-n’ the gay male to make them appear accessible but they leave out the mechanics of sodomy, as that perversity is difficult to sterilize.
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