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Pro-Israel Supporters Attack RNC’s Hiring of Former Ron Paul Staffer

Pro Israel Voices Attack RNCs Hire of Former Paul Staffer

At the end of June, the Republican National Committee (RNC) hired the communications director for Ron Paul’s presidential campaign and former Rand Paul Press Secretary and David Vitter staffer Gary Howard. The infiltration of increasingly libertarian forces into the RNC has reportedly been met with unwelcome sentiments from Pro-Israel supporters that object to Howard’s former boss Rep. Ron Paul’s foreign policy positions. BuzzFeed reports:

“As Romney is working to beef up his foreign policy credentials, he and the Republican Party should concentrate on hiring professionals who have a history of supporting a strong America and a robust US-Israel relationship,” said Josh Block, Senior Fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute and former AIPAC spokesman who has also sharply criticized the Obama Administration on Israel, in an email. “Not people like Gary Howard who hail from the isolationist, anti-Israel, Ron Paul wing of the Republican Party or who follow the the old Robert Taft foreign policy which advocated against US intervention in World War II.”

Howard was hired as a Special Projects Director, and has not been quoted saying anything about Israel. In a report from The Atlantic following allegations from former staffer Eric Dondero who accused Rep. Paul of harboring anti-Israel views and believing the U.S. should not have fought Hitler, Howard is quoted saying “I never heard a racist word expressed towards Blacks or Jews come out of his mouth. Not once.” The Atlantic also reports that Howard is black.

RNC Communications Director Sean Spicer affirmed the committee’s hire, telling BuzzFeed, ”We hired Gary Howard because he’s an excellent communicator and someone who can get our message out.”

Pro Israel Voices Attack RNCs Hire of Former Paul Staffer

The latest controversy in regards to Howard puts the spotlight back on a topic of the primary campaign regarding the conflict between Rep. Ron Paul along with the libertarian wing of the GOP against the adamantly pro-Israel neoconservatives.

Rep. Paul was a vocal critic of the Bush Administration’s military spending and policy during the War on Terror, and made ending “nation-building,” avoiding long and expensive land wars, and guaranteeing that the intelligence community’s efforts are not directed toward “spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act” part of his 2012 campaign platform on national defense. 

The Republican Jewish Coalition banned Rep.Paul from its presidential candidates forum last December, explaining that the decision was made for organization “rejects his misguided and extreme views.”

Columnist Richard Cohen slammed Rep. Paul’s foreign policy in The Washington Post in January:

Paul opposes just about all international treaties and organizations. He would have the United States pull out of the United Nations and NATO. He would do away with foreign aid, abolish the CIA and essentially turn his back on the rest of the world. This is pretty much what used to be called isolationism, and it allowed Hitler to presume, quite correctly as it turned out, that America would not interfere with his plans to conquer Europe, Britain included. It took Germany’s declaration of war on the United States, not the other way round, to get Uncle Sam involved.

The isolationism of the 1930s and early ’40s has come roaring back — in the person of Paul, I am tempted to write, but that is not exactly the case. The old isolationism was deeply conservative, both socially and economically, and its leaders — Sen. William Borah, R-Idaho, for instance — would never have advocated the decriminalization of recreational drugs. Paul does because he is a libertarian. It is this ideology coupled with his staunch antiwar pose that attracts so many young people and, when you take another look, some not so young people as well.

Others have defended Rep. Paul against these claims, as Bryanna Johnson writes in The Washington Times:

One of the strongest charges against the congressman is that he advocates cutting foreign aid to Israel. That fact alone makes many unwilling to consider supporting him or even take time to learn more about his position. This knee-jerk reaction prevents many voters from coming to an understanding of Paul’s beliefs, or even of the particulars surrounding his statements.

In her piece, Johnson goes quote-by-quote, exploring Rep. Paul‘s comments about Israel that have worried some conservatives and clearing up the congressman’s position.

The BuzzFeed report comes shortly after Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s announcement that he will visit Israel once again before November. President Obama has seen his support among Jewish-Americans drop 10 points since 2008.

However, a report released to POLITICO Tuesday from the Solomon Project, a non-partisan group that works to educate the American Jewish community about its history of civic involvement, ”offers an in-depth review of Jewish-American voting behavior from 1972 through 2008 that downplays the notion that the Jewish vote is in play.” The report reminds hopeful Republican strategists that the Jewish vote for Democrats has never dropped below 70 percent.

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  • In-God-I-trust
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:30pm

    To understand why it doesn’t matter if you vote for Romney or Obama and that both are just alike. This why the only choice we have is RP and here is why.
    Joseph Smith (creator of Mormonism) said:
    If the people will let us alone, we will preach the gospel in peace but if they come on us to molest us we will establish our religion by the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic ocean. I will be to this generation a second Mohammed whose moto for treating for peace was the all Koran or the sword, so it will be for us, Joseph Smith or the sword.
    Also:
    Joseph Smith became a FIRST DEGREE Mason on the night of the installation of the Masonic temple he built in his city Nauvoo in Illinois. That was also where he put in a bar, whore house and brewery.
    Mohammed, Free Masonry occult? Mormonism? Bilderberg doesn’t care if they get either O or R. They are both the same and are working for the same cult.
    Us voters are just being tricked into thinking we have a choice by bickering back and forth but in reality, we don’t. They cheat the votes, they fool the media and control it and they know we are gullible. We have been for so long that we don’t know truth from Science fiction anymore.
    No one cares to do any research of their own anymore but would rather listen to the media tell them what they should know.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 3:55pm

      This is Zionism.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9Qm_TejCo&skipcontrinter=1&bpctr=1341951778&skipcontrinter=1
      This is what the Jews think of Zionism.
      http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html

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    • football lady
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 5:49pm

      There are some issues I agree with Ron Paul on. His supporters, like you, turned many people off. Supporters like you are like the Obama worshipers. Anyway, get over it. RP is not going to be president. But hey, if you chose to put Obama in office again, it is your choice. Romney was not my first choice but ANYBODY but Obama will certainly be better than another 4 years of O’s agenda.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:22pm

      @FOOTBALL LADY..The people don’t understand how they have been schisted..not only recently but since the beginning.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJy4gSG8Q3w
      Then there was 9/11 to keep us in perpetual wars to drive us so far into debt that we would have no choice but to accept the NWO.. did you know..that the government issued visas to the men that were involved.? Did you know..that those men were trained at a naval base in Florida? Ron Paul is the only one who has told us the truth and offered real solutions..Romney and Obama receive their financing from these banks..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28tE0fKpISM
      The US worships Israel and as writer of the article I posted above..the Zionists have made Israel the golden calf..

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:22pm

      You do know that Ron Paul’s father was a free mason???????? And his wife and daughter belong to free mason clubs?

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:28pm

      @FOOTBALL LADY..I meant to say as the writer suggested in the article that I posted above..

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:53pm

      We are not Ron Paul worshipers..we just like freedom and we want someone to stand for the people..not the banks..tell us one thing that is different from Obama and Romney..except for their religion and their race..they are both liberals..both are for taking freedom away and both are for bigger government..They are both Zionists.. we are headed for the NWO and everyone has their heads in the sand..Henry Kissinger said we wouldn’t llike it but it was what was good for us..Do you know what the NWO is? It is Communism..Ron Paul was the only one running that didn‘t have his head up the Commie’s dress tails..To tell you the truth..I don’t see any way to avoid it now.. We are done…

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    • Longinthetooth
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 10:41am

      ….” Not everyone OF Israel is FROM Israel.”

      Cut the head from the Snake and the body will die

      End the Fed
      RP2012

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 4:27pm

      Some people just believe the establishments reporters on everything they say, taking their word as though they are godlike. It is sad that so many do not think for themselves. I bet most of you still think that we were attacked on 9/11 because muslims hate our way of life, the fact that we are free (well that is not true anymore) and that they just hate us for who we are because they consider us infidels. Well, it just is not true. Listen to Anwar Al-awlaki’s words back in 2001: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Ofg2BacIM&feature=youtu.be
      This was the true reason for the attacks on us and the continuing threats from them. Ron Paul is right on his foreign policy and all of you need to understand his true foreign policy beliefs and quit listening to establishment reporters.

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    • DefendersoftheFaith
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 6:34pm

      Here’s the bottom line (despite your ignorant slander)

      “The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done.”

      -Joseph Smith
      March 1,1842
      (History of the Church 4:535-541)

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 1:31am

      Joseph Smith also said that Christ told him Melchizedek Priests were allowed more than one wife, if the woman was a virgin and given to him from Christ. Jeez, that is what made my wife and I leave the church (that and the lame story given us by the Bishop).

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    • jsciai
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 2:59am

      WCP
      You know, WCP, in a previous post I opined your intense opposition to Romney must either be because you were a religious bigot or an obamaton troll. I then concluded you were an obamaton troll. You shot back that I called you a bigot, but since you were mormon you couldn’t be that(I clarified your post on that). Now, it seems you do have an axe to grind with Romney over his religion after all. I’m sorry to hear that you have abandoned your belief in the Bible since There are several instances where the LORD gave permission for the children of Israel to practice poligamy. So, for you to be intellectually honest, you would have to disavow the bible in its entirety,(hey, you can’t pick and choose what the Lord has said). Of course, by the time Christ came that practice wasn’t being followed, and it is my understanding the mormons do not practice it today, and have not for quite some time–over 100 years? You know, when you point a finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you. Something to think about.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:16am

      JSCIAI,You can think what you want. I am still religious and I would like you to tell me where Christ said any such thing. I think you have another religion in mind. Christ said that if you looked at another woman with lust in your eyes, you have already committed adultery. You see, the way I see it, Christ gave his life on the cross to forgive us the sins of our mind, as men have a difficult time keeping impure thoughts from entering. It is when you act on those thoughts that you have actually committed sin, Christ just gave us a way out of our sinful thoughts. You guys and your interpretations kill me. Catholics, you can do whatever as long as you confess to someone who cannot turn you in. Give me a break. Mormons, listen to someone who turned his back on the New Testament and created their own rules to suit themselves.
      I do not care what religion our POTUS is as long as he totally believes in our Constitution, which Romney does not.

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  • cdn1979
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:22pm

    i find it quite funny that people will attack ron paul because they think he anti-israel (which is not the case at all) but support a mormon romney who’s fellow mormons baptised the jews who died in WWII so they would get into heaven. If you ask me, he’s the real anti israel candidate. according to his people, no jews died in WWII because they are actually mormons.

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    • MAULEMALL
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:28pm

      maybe when pawl stops his love afair with bradley manning he might be taken serious.

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    • Neils60
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 3:13pm

      As an American, who happens to be Jewish, I‘m following Rand Paul’s lead, and supporting Mitt Romney in his presidential bid. Regarding Americans who are Jewish, and their support for Democrats. Remember, Ronald Reagan received about 40% of the American Jewish vote. And, as of this writing, despite what’s reported here, Americans, who are Jewish, support for Mitt Romney is on a steady climb. It’s now at about 37%. That improving support for Mitt, in some swing states, could put Mr. Romney in the White House. At least, let’s hope so!

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    • acidovorax
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 4:37pm

      MAULE, you mean the Bradley Manning that allowed American citizens to see the inner workings of our “elected” officials? Yeah, how horrible.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:25pm

      Just maybe it was the ten years of racist RP newsletter that got their attention

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 8:19pm

      @Repulicorp, Another lie from the punk-ass fascist who said murdering Muslim children is OK because they’re going to grow up evil. (I sware I’ve heard that justification somewhere before) It was 8 newsletters of thousands put out over a 10 year period. 7 were “insensitive”, 1 was considered racist. You’re the little biggot, don’t act like racism bothers you.

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    • DefendersoftheFaith
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 6:52pm

      “For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.”

      “And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.” (2 Nephi 25:23,26)

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  • AmericasBestChristian
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:20pm

    I did not support Ron Paul because of his stance on Israel. The U.S. is a CHRISTIAN nation committed to EVANGELIZING all Jews so that they can accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah and thereby become COMPLETED JEWS. The organization, JEWS FOR JESUS, does A LOT to bring the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ to these heathens. If the Jews do not accept their natural SAVIOR, they are going to Hell and are no better than the atheists when it comes to morality. If you are a TRUE Christian, you will NOT be ashamed of the Gospel and you will evangelize every Jew you come into contact with. Praise HIM!

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    • bravjim
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:45pm

      Sorry sweety, while your heart is in the right place, Christians from America might want to evangelize the jews, but that is not an American mission, it is a Christian one. I would love to see more Jews come to Christ, but the truth is that God has allowed them to be blinded for a time (like with Barjesus in chapter 13 of Acts–it is an allusion to what happened to Israel.) But that doesn’t stop us from preaching to them, just like Paul continued to preach in the synagogues despite knowing most jews would not convert. This happened because God had hidden the age of grace from the Jews because He knew their failures better than anyone, and it was His opportunity to pour His Spirit out on the Gentiles.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:46pm

      move to Israel if you care about that country more than America.

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:24pm

      @Indy
      If Israel‘s survival is in America’s interest, how is supporting it evidence of lack of caring about the US.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 4:50pm

      there is no benefit.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 5:47pm

      @AmericasBestChristian
      That kind of thinking is why we are in the place we are in….

      It is NOT America’s job to evangelize the world – that is the Christian’s job (yours included). Yes, America is a Christian nation – but that doesnt mean America should carry the Christian load. If you are a bible believer, you should know that government is not able to win the souls of men.

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:16pm

    I didn’t realize that the Jewish lobby was so anti-freedom and anti-liberty.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:07pm

      Could you imagine a foreign country telling America whether they should give foreign aid, be in UN and NATO, and whether we should have a CIA???? Insane

      “Paul opposes just about all international treaties and organizations. He would have the United States pull out of the United Nations and NATO. He would do away with foreign aid, abolish the CIA”

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 7:51am

      The same people who unfailingly support foreign aid to Israel are the exact same people who want to abolish welfare programs here in America.

      And the refuse to see the irony.

      Welfare destroys the recipient’s self reliance. Individuals, sub-groups, cultures, religions, and yes, even countries. Paul wants to end all foreign aid, and for that he is called an anti-Semite, though it is in the long-term best interest of Israel, and Jewish soverignty.

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  • Aaryq
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:12pm

    To those of you against the idea, I say it’s a smart move for the RNC. It’s best to have a collection of voices in your staff and not a bunch of yes men. Isn’t that the best way to come to a sound judgement is to take in opinons of most of the main points of view out there to make the right choice?

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  • bravjim
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:02pm

    Oh, I see, a progressive think tank. Okay, that explains everything.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:14pm

      All think tanks are progressive and contrary to American traditions.

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    • bravjim
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:22pm

      I don’t think the Cato institute is progressive; I tend to agree with many of their conclusions.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 4:57pm

      Fair enough.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 7:26pm

      Cato is the rare exception

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  • bravjim
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:00pm

    Now see, I don’t see what the big deal is concerning Romney hiring the guy. As someone who is pro Israel, I did not support Paul because he fails to recognize the threat that Iran poses to Israel and as an extension, to us. They consider us the great Satan, and Israel the little Satan. But just because Howard worked for him doesn’t make him anti-Israel, and it doesn’t mean that Romney is anti-Israel. So, why do they object to him being hired. He’s not being hired to set policy, but to communicate Romney’s message.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:50pm

      bravjim
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:00pm
      They consider us the great Satan, and Israel the little Satan.
      ===============================================

      While you’re on the subject of Satan:

      —————————————————–
      “The flag of Israel, depicting a blue Star of David on a white background, between two horizontal blue stripes was adopted on October 28, 1948, five months after the country’s establishment. The origins of the flag’s design date from the First Zionist Congress in 1897; the flag has subsequently been known as the “flag of Zion”.

      The Star of David, the Pentegram, has 6 sides, 6 angles and 6 points. Seeing the Exodus as a spiritual experience of our spiritual fathers, or as a pattern for worship and community (commune), or restoring the Jubilee which was always for the atonement or restoring Levitical singers and musicians is an end-time rejection of Christ‘s finished work as our ’central story.’

      “But you have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which you made to yourselves.”
      -Amos 5:26

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    • Classical Liberal
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 12:53am

      Charlie, a pentagram has 5 points, thus the PENTA in pentagram.

      The star of David is a hexagram. Six points.

      Your a we bit crazy btw.

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  • West Coast Patriot
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:55pm

    http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/high-tide-and-turn/2012/jan/29/ron-paul-and-israel-question/

    I wanted to put a link here so that more could read this important article.

    Ron Paul is still in the running even though the media says Romney is the nominee. The media, who before, reported on the fact that Ron Paul had secured five states with a pluralty of delegates (Fox was the first), now are trying to say he needs one more. Lies. Paul has over five states with a pluralty of delegates and will be on the nomination block for the first round of voting. Delegates are not bound to any candidate by law and Paul supporters are going to back Paul on the first round. Two things could happen, Paul gets the nomination or quite possibly a brokered convention as there are still three candidates with supporters voting. It is going to be an interesting convention.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/media-playing-rnc-ballot-charades

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    • bravjim
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:05pm

      Okay, so you are advocating that the delegates turn on the elections that nominated Romney because Paul has a plurality of delegates in 5 states out of 50. Something wrong with the concept of trying to overturn what the majority of republicans have decided, whether I agree with them or not. (I voted for Santorum, and my first choice was Herman Cain, and still is. sorry, I just like the guy.)

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    • jsciai
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:53pm

      hello bravjim
      Please forgive west coast patriot. He and others suffer from NUTJOB syndrome(not understanding truth, just opines bull). I’m afraid it runs rampant among the paulbots. I have already posted ABSOLUTE facts showing how badly Dr. Paul lost in the # of primaries, the delegate count, and the popular vote. WPC just decides to ignore them, living in a fantasy world. To bad. Maybe, after the convention when Romney gets the official nod and Dr. Paul endorses and supports him, wpc may come to his senses and be cured. But, I fear his case may be terminal. Soybean, bro winston and muttiny’s infection is beyond curing. I’m afraid political gangrene of the brain has set in. The smell is atrocious. Everytime they post something it stinks!

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:22pm

      @jsciai
      Don’t forget about Wakingsheep!
      With the posts I have seen by the people you mentioned; I will stand with them in their insanity.
      I always see posts about freedom, liberty, the Constitution, and U.S. sovereignity.

      Well if that is something that stinks; I‘m a F’ing pig.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:30pm

      @jsciai
      Also,

      Romney will not get Ron Paul’s endorsement……. He will bow out if that is what happens at the convention but I don’t see him falling out of his CONSTITUTIONAL stance by supporting Obamney…..

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:50pm

      @sheep
      So then your view is Rand endorsing Romney was done against his father’s wishes?

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 3:03pm

      @tzion
      Rand Paul
      Ron Paul

      Two different Pauls. Rand did suprise me with that one though……
      I hope Ron will not suspend his consistancy for the name of the “R” party.
      He might though….. more and more crazier things keep happening so I’m begining to just laugh at how rediculous it all is…..

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 5:54pm

      @jsciai
      Cant wait till the RNC convention. Either Ron Paul wins or Gary Johnson becomes the constitution candidate. Either way, your homeboy will be completely inadequate compared to the records and principles of these men.

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    • Classical Liberal
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 1:05am

      If you Liked Herman Cain in the first place you are a dolt. Did you even listen to what the man had to say? He was no conservative and he sure as hell wasn’t no constitutionalist.

      And then you blew off your vote on Frothy, a piece of filth socialist hiding behind a Christian cross. The very worst that washington has to offer.

      But you and many other republicans were duped by the silver tongued liar and the snake oil salesman. People like you are the reason America will fail. Death by ignorance of the truth.

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    • jsciai
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 6:11am

      @soybean,
      I however, do not have NUTJOB syndrome. WHOEVER gets the republican nomination I will vote for. Not because I am a sheeple(is that what you call us?) but rather I will vote to get obama out. You, and the others, have repeatedly stated you would rather have obama than Romney. Yes, yes, yes, you will reply that there is no difference–blah, blah, blah. I suggest everyone go to http://www.whyromney.com and see just how different they are. Romney will ge the nomination and Ron Paul will endorse/support him.
      Romney 2012

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on July 11, 2012 at 4:09pm

      JSCIAI, You do not like being called sheeple, do you, but you are the first to change a persons name on here, Soybean, LeftCoast, etc…. Hypocrite. I am just pointing out the FACT that you guys are supporting another McCain type candidate that will not defeat Obama. Romney will not get the Black vote, the Youth vote, the Paul supporter vote, etc…. He cannot win without these voting blocks. HeII, he doesn’t even have all Republicans on board or even half the Independents. You can try to throw your blame at us all you want when Romney loses, but you will only have yourself to blame, as we have been warning you with facts for quite some time. We cannot help it if you do not want to believe us.

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    • jsciai
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 2:43am

      WPC,
      I’ll clear up a couple of things : I have never called you left coast. I do use soybean, I just can’t help it! I don’t mind being called a sheeple-therefore I don’t consider myself hypocritical. Coming from a paulbot I think it’s kind of funny. I do not consider Romney another McCain type candidate and he will defeat Obama. Romney will get more of the Black vote, the Youth vote and Paul supporters than Paul himself after Romney seals the nomination and Paul endorses and supports him, same as his son. Republicans and Independents are coalescing around Romney and he will wipe the floor with obama come November.

      I do not blame you for anything–I’ve only said that following your advise will lead to 4 more years of obama. I’ve already posted the results of the primaries where Paul came in last in the delegate tally, the popular vote and the # of states won. I noticed you didn’t reply to my post on that. And yet you live in some fantasy world where Paul will pull all of this out of his hat. Balderdash! Truth is tough sometimes.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:21am

      JSCIAI, Well, when Romney loses, I will come here and laugh at you. Paul supporters are not going to vote for him, if for nothing else, the felony election fraud his campaign did against Paul supporters. He WILL not win without us, we all know it. Paul will not endorse Romney, you watch. Have fun under another four buddy.

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  • Jaycen
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:50pm

    Hey, Chris Santerelli.

    Don’t call us Neoconservatives.

    To the Ron Paul supporters. We don’t want to dump a lot of money on other countries, either, but we also DON’T support Iran having nuclear weapons. Ron Paul is good with that. Check his own words for confirmation.

    Oh yeah, and stop blaming the media for making Ron Paul sound crazy. He does an AWESOME job of that all on his own.

    Thanks.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:02pm

      Jaycen, I don’t consider you a neoconservative. I think you bought into their propaganda. The neoconservatives were in the pentagon cooking up lies to tell the American people to justify their lust for murder. I think neoconservative is used too often and misused by many Ron Paul supporters. You’re just a dude who believes there are people still in the media who are honest or blinded by their agenda.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:03pm

      Kinda like we didn‘t want sadam to use his invisible WMD’s on us?

      They weren’t making him sound crazy. They called him crazy.
      They also just ignored him.
      Kinda interesting how Gingrich, Bachman, Cain, and even Perry were all front runners at one point and yet they are now absent from the remainder of the race.
      Paul was laughed at by the media and ignored but guess who is going to Tampa anyway.
      Front runners…… HA

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:47pm

      Iran has the right to defend themselves like any other defensive nation.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 4:15pm

      Make up your mind then…..

      You were once supportive of Iran having nuclear capability:

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      “Ford‘s team commended Iran’s decision to build a massive nuclear energy industry, noting in a declassified 1975 strategy paper that Tehran needed to “prepare against the time — about 15 years in the future — when Iranian oil production is expected to decline sharply.”

      Estimates of Iran’s oil reserves were smaller then than they are now, but energy experts and U.S. intelligence estimates continue to project that Iran will need an alternative energy source in the coming decades. Iran’s population has more than doubled since the 1970s, and its energy demands have increased even more.

      The Ford administration — in which Cheney succeeded Rumsfeld as chief of staff and Wolfowitz was responsible for nonproliferation issues at the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency — continued intense efforts to supply Iran with U.S. nuclear technology until President Jimmy Carter succeeded Ford in 1977. ”
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3983-2005Mar26.html
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      …….and now suddenly you are not??

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:39pm

    There are two different types of Pro Israel.

    1. Pro Israel from the standard GOP perspective is to give them money, give their enemies money, tell Israel what they can and cannot do, stay in the UN who is completely against Israel, and invade countries in their name. If anything this Pro Israel stance is kind of like the way the Egyptian pharaohs were “pro Israel”.

    2. The Ron Paul view on being Pro Israel is bit different. We quit giving them money, quit giving their enemies money, we allow Israel to make their own defense decisions, we leave the UN, and we do not invade anyone in their name. Does that mean if Israel is attacked we will not help? No, mainly because war isnt declared by the President. We are allies with Israel, an invasion of Israel by a hostile force would be against our best interests and we would help. The major difference under Ron Paul running the show is we wouldnt be headed directly to bankruptcy and a declaration of war would have to be declared.

    You can either do your own research or you can allow the media to tell you what is going on. I hate to tell you this, but just as bad as the left media covers up stories or just out right lies. So does the right. Fox and talk radio caused us to have Romney. Had they given honest coverage we wouldnt not have Romney.

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:51pm

      For once mutiny, I can actually agree with you. As I have repeatedly stated, I have no problem with Paul’s idea of what our relations with Israel should be like. I do believe he is a little naive about the dangers of Iran and Islamic terrorism, as demonstrated by his comments about 9/11, and that he’s a little too isolationist based on his opinions on US involvement in WWII. The biggest reason why I can’t support him for President is because, while he is an excellent legislature, he hasn’t demonstrated effective leadership skills.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:55pm

      No, Mutiny. That’s a False-Choice fallacy.

      There are several versions in-between. The media isn‘t solely responsible for Ron Paul’s odd-ball messaging. I think there are plenty of Constitutional Conservatives in the world who are completely capable of discerning Ron Paul’s message all on their own.

      Paul is fine with Iran having nuclear weapons. I’m not. I think it’d pure idiocy to make statements such as, “Why shouldn’t Iran have a nuke? Plenty of other countries have them. Israel has them.”

      That sounds like Paul places Israel and Iran on the same moral footing. One forces their people into the streets to chant “Death to America!”. The other doesn’t.

      It’s probably a really minor different in your eyes, but to me it’s kind of a big deal.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:00pm

      “while he is an excellent legislature, he hasn’t demonstrated effective leadership skills.”

      He tells it how it is. He doesn’t soften it up to tell us; He lays it out there.
      Good, bad, and ugly; He will always tell it how it is.

      That’s the kind of leader I want.
      I don‘t want somebody who won’t even call out Obama’s power grabs (Obamacare/Executive orders) as being un-Constitutional.

      I also don’t want somebody who tends to change their minds as the political winds blow (ROMNEY).

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:11pm

      @Jaycen
      Your asking for WW3 by asking for confrontation with Iran. Plain and simple; WE CAN’T AFFORD IT.

      Also,
      Didn’t we already do this a few years back? We claimed somebody in the ME had WMD’s and he was going to use them on us. The confrontation that ensued went from being the WAR ON TERROR (even though the terrorists weren’t in this country), to the Iraq war, to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

      So anytime we think somebody might be a threat; we don’t declare WAR but just attack them?
      How many threats to the U.S. are there in the world and how many currently claim to be our friends?
      Do you think Pakistan is really our friends with all the money we give them? They have nukes and they had Bin Laden…..hmmmm…..

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    • neoconenemy
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:16pm

      TZION….You won‘t support Ron Paul because he isn’t a ZIONIST plain and simple. My biggest problem with progressives (who include republicons) is they will step over someone who has defended the constitution better than anyone else in favour of a half baked fraud like Romney. Romney is palatable because he is a zionist and will do what AIPAC wants. Ron Paul will tell AIPAC to take a hike. Whats important to zionists is what really counts, America be damned.

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    • bravjim
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:30pm

      I don’t support him because of his stance on Iran. I consider them to be both a direct and indirect threat to the United States interests. And to state that Paul’s position would be the same as the founders is a questionable argument at best. In order to protect our commercial interests, Washington himself responded to acts of piracy by the barbary pirates sending a small force into Tripoli where they garnered some support to move against the pirates there.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:38pm

      @tzion

      Ron Paul is not “naive about the dangers of Iran and Islamic terrorism”. I will allow Ron Paul to show you.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnPV2xea2ro

      How do we know Ron Paul was correct? Well lets hear from Osama Bin Laden on why he attacked us.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw 1:18 is where he declares war on the United States and tells us why. His reasons? He demanded the US pull out of Saudi Arabia. He did the interview in 1998.

      We completely have the wrong foreign policy right now. Its bankrupting us and will eventually lead to the total destruction of the United States. When that happens who will have won the war? Us or Bin Laden? Bin Laden said he wanted to bog us down in the middle east and referred to it as death by a thousand cuts.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:45pm

      @jaycen

      Why shouldnt Iran be seeking a nuke? They are surrounded by countries with them. If Canada and Mexico had nukes and we did wouldnt we be trying to get them? Ron Paul has never said he wants Iran to have a nuke, he has never said he hopes they get a nuke, he has never said he would help Iran get a nuke. All he said was “why shouldnt Iran want a nuke?”

      Can you answer that question? You cannot answer it from our perspective. Answer it from a Iranian government perspective. The only answer is of course they should be seeking out a nuke. Lets also remember my original post. Under Ron Paul, Israel has the right to defend itself. So if Iran gets close to a bomb, Israel would take it out. Remember during the first gulf war how Iraq kept send scuds into Israel. Why didnt Israel attack? We stopped them. We are the slave masters over Israel now. We have them in bondage and God is going to free them again from their slave masters just as he has done through out history.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:49pm

      Iran may treat its people like crap but it doesn’t treat other countries that way and they have never attacked another country. They want a nuke because they have been attacked by other countries throughout time. they have the right to defend themselves like any other nation does.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:51pm

      @brav

      What threat is Iran to us? What can they possible do to us. They cannot attack us, they cannot bomb us, they cannot invade us. They have zero logistics to even get to us and they dont even make gasoline to get here. What possible way could they attack us.

      As far as Jefferson sending ships to kill the Barbary pirates, and? They were attacking and capturing American ships and sailors. If we are attacked you attack back. What has Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, N. Korea, Vietnam, Serbia, or any of the other nations we have attacked done to us.

      The answer is nothing. All we have done is set our selves up for bankruptcy and cost Americans their lives.

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:22pm

      @Neocon
      For someone who claims to hate progressives you have mastered their collectivist way of categorizing people. You have falsely concluded that I must hold a specific viewpoint for the sole reason that I happen to be Jewish. You know next to nothing about me and yet feel justified in judging, or to be more accurate, prejudging me based on what little you know. You have condemned me for something you couldn’t possibly know anything about. You are clearly prejudiced against Jews which by definition makes you antisemitic.

      @Individualism
      Considering you probably see the US’s arming of Afghans against Russia or that backing those that overthrew an Iranian government as us attacking those nations, to insist that Iran, a country which has actively armed and supplied both Hamas and Hezbollah for the sole purpose of attacking and destroying Israel, hasn’t attacked anyone just shows how biased and self-serving your way of seeing things is. If a government you oppose arms the opposition to a country you support, it’s an attack. If a government you support (or are at least ambivalent to) arms those attacking a country you clearly despise, they are simply defending themselves. Sorry Indy, but your hypocrisy is showing.

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    • The-Real-Enrico
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:23pm

      @tzion I also agree. You statement for me hits it right on the head. I agree with most of his view on foreign policy but at the same time he is factually naive on islamist and foreign enemies. I agree with almost everything that comes out of his mouth even some the drug stuff to degrees.

      The only fact dis-courages me is that wouldn‘t and says wouldn’t do anything to stop or prevent people groups of who are actively trying to do us harm by killing/murder US citizens aka terrorism.

      He said he would only respond to people like Iran, not threating to attack the us or we have the intel that are going to attack us but only after they are to attack us even if it were nuclear.

      Its some type weird/crazy/stupid form of innocent until proven guilty. If we know if they want to kill and have the means to kill and have a plan to kill us, then we have the right and the responsibility to preventively defend ourselves.

      Everything else is perfect. We need to stop lying to the American people say what mean and mean what we say. We can’t fight terror. That dumb statement something a communist would say. We can fight war against terror just as much as we fight war on sadness.

      It is Islam or radical/extreme Islam that we are at war with. We can never when is we can not name our enemy. Like we did with communism we need to once again call a spade a spade. The world is not gray.

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 2:47pm

      @mutiny
      What makes Ron Paul naive is that he believes in appeasement. Somehow he thinks that if we just leave the Arabs alone all the hatred they’ve built up against us over the past decades will instantly evaporate. If Al Qaeda has declared war on us then we will continue to be at war until 1. One side is destroyed. 2. One side unconditionally surrenders or 3. A peace agreement is reached. Since surrender isn’t an option and Al Qaeda has no interest in making peace, our only solution is to destroy them.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 3:09pm

      @tzion
      That hatred in the ME you speak of; You do know why it is there in the first place right?
      You know why Osama attacked?

      Also,
      Did you know there were no Al-queida in Iraq at the time we invaded?
      Would you be pissed if somebody invaded our country on a lie (WMD’s/Terrorists) then killed thousands of innocents while saying it is for our own good?

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 3:55pm

      @tzion

      Look you are completely wrong on the Ron Paul stance. Did you hear this garbage from Bill Oreilly? Appeasement is not his policy. We will out and save our country from bankruptcy for one. Secondly when we occupy and bomb other countries we are creating more terrorist.

      What happens when we blow up a hostile but some kids die? Their fathers become hostile. What happens when we kill a dad? His children become hostile. Put yourself in these peoples shoes. If this was happening here what would something like that do to you?

      Lets not forget how hard it is to attack our country. We are a very hard nation to physically attack. We have the strongest military in the world and its its not even close to number 2. Under Ron Paul’s plan we cut back to 2002 spending levels which still puts us at 4 times number 2 in spending. Our real savings comes from closing most of the foreign bases. Now some of course we cannot close for strategic reason but many we can. Have you seen the map of Iran and the bases we have surrounding them? All of that for a country we will literally beat in hours?

      We are going bankrupt. If we dont fix our spending problem we will have riots, looting, murders and rapes on main st. You people need to wake up and realize that Israel will not be safe if we are not around. We will not be able to help any allies if we are on fire.

      WAKE UP!!!!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:10pm

      @TZION

      You said….”The biggest reason why I can’t support him for President is because, while he is an excellent legislature, he hasn’t demonstrated effective leadership skills.”

      Do you know much about Gary Johnson? Gary Johnson is very very similar to Ron Paul except his experience is Governor of New Mexico instead of Congressman. Gary Johnson started and built a huge company. What is your take on him?

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 8:12pm

      @Tzion, I have to throw the BS flag with your response to Neocon. You have Zion in your screen name, you post every time anyone says anything remotely close to being anti Israel or not deemed not to be PC by the ADL, and following your posts over the past year and a half and it‘s obvious Neocon could come to the conclusion you’re a Zionist without being a collectivist or a racist. I’ve always thought of you as a stand up fella, and have to admit I‘m disapointed you didn’t stand up for what’s right on this one. The people who are smearing Ron Paul in this piece, demonizing him, excluding him from the a presidential debate for blatant BS and neoconservatives are evil little worms. Even if they actually believed what they said about RP, they collectively applied what they think of him to his staffers, no? TBH, I think the Neocons alone are WORSE than Obama. I mean they’re both socialist (keynesians) like big government statistism, but the Neocons are WORSE regarding the police state, outright lying to the American public and murdering everyone else in the world. I wouldn‘t be suprised if they didn’t want to murder all of RP’s supporters too.

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    • PRESIDENT_OBAMNEY
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 11:18pm

      TZION wrote: “I do believe he is a little naive about the dangers of Iran and Islamic terrorism, as demonstrated by his comments about 9/11.” RP was just repeating our own CIA’s findings about blow back caused by decades of U.S. military involvement in Muslim countries. Ron Paul is not an isolationist of the right-wing Pat Buchanan persuasion — he is merely a strict Constitutionalist that believes we should have a deceleration of war from Congress before going to war. If that makes him a non-interventionist — I’m all for it; at least he’s following the Constitution! It also means that we go into war with the full objective of winning each war! That‘s something that hasn’t been done since WWII (which incidentally was the last time we “all out” won any war). Military Non-interventionism is also good for liberty, because it puts a leash on the Military-Industrial Complex that has decade upon decade of unconstitutional undeclared wars to test all its new weaponry (e.g., drones, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera) on the enemy before implementing it us on the general U.S. populous as it is doing right now. One other thing: RP and Rick Perry were the only 2 Republican candidates with any military background.

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  • WakingSheep
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:36pm

    Ron Paul is the only truely Constitutional candidate I have seen in my lifetime. Reagan would be a close second but I was 2 when he was President.
    This guy complaining sees no issue with the foreign aid?
    He doesn’t see an issue with the U.N. dictating our policy?
    So I also assume he has no use for the Constitution as well.

    We need more Ron Pauls running this country. With his liberty and trade mindset; WE WOULD BE BOOMING $$$$……

    Constitution 2012!
    F the establishment! Romney, Obama, Bush, Cheney, Clintons, Pelosi…… F THEM and their Utopia!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 6:22pm

      Yea I cant believe a foreign lobby group is going around telling people what our taxpayer money should go to. Its even worse when they tell us we have to be part of the debilitating UN or NATO. And it is OUTRAGEOUS that a foreign entity would tell us what we should do about our most covert agency….

      If people want Constitution and freedom – they will have to vote Constitution and freedom…Change can only come in waves, not drips and drabs

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  • windwardtack
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:33pm

    Why would a ‘progressive alliance’ member be commenting on an RNC hire? Because he’s black? Because he’s conservative? Because he is smarter than they are and will make the ‘progressive alliance’ look like what they are?

    Many questions present themselves.

    Ron Paul is not against Israel, he stood up for it defending itself in 83 when Israel bombed an Iraq nuclear facility and the US congress condemned it. Ron Paul is just against foreign welfare when we can’t fund our obligations at home to seniors and others, across the board.

    I sincerely doubt anyone can point to a single thing ‘anti-Israel‘ in Howard’s background. Anti ‘progressive alliance’ might be a different call.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:32pm

    Get this man out of the RNC if he is not pro Israel. We want no part of him.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:31pm

    England needs to get that bunch of Muslims who are not who they want the public to think out of control in their government too. They are taking over important positions in England. Drive them out.
    There should not be any more building of mosques in this country. This should be stopped NOW. This is our country, assimilate or go back to the dunes.

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  • Matt
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:30pm

    I think now that the nomination process is over, we should have a solemn pact in the media to never show any photos of Newt Gingrich again. Hes so ugly, and obviously deceitful that I cringe every time I have to look at his lying face.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:29pm

    If Romney or any of the prove they are not behind Israel there will be only one term for him too.

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  • Matt
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:29pm

    If Ron Paul would have just put his support behind Israel and publicly hyped the fact that he is actually a christian, he would have had the nomination in a heartbeat. Too bad.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:37pm

      His support is behind Israel.
      Israel is telling us to get out of the way and that is what Ron Paul supports.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:24pm

    Anyone who is against Israel will be deat with by Almighty God. Do not put people in our government who is against Israel. This man, should be let go if he is not pro-Israel. Get him out, he has not special talent except for usurping what could be a good thing. A man who is against Israel is against God and has no place in our government.

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    • windwardtack
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:29pm

      Why is a ‘progressive alliance’ member attacking an RNC hire? Maybe they just don’t like that he is black, and conservative. And a lot smarter than they are.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:36pm

      Your way of thinking is exactly why the establishment clause was put in the Constitution. I always support anyone‘s right to worship as they please as long as they don’t deprive anyone else of their freedoms. With your way of thinking, the government must deprive people who don’t necessarily agree with the Old Testament of the Bible of their property (theft) to pay for it.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:51pm

      Why not Pro America?

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  • justangry
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:20pm

    Wow, this article leaves me feeling somewhat betrayed.

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    • Matt
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:31pm

      Then let go of your anger brother, anger only begets more anger and more sorrow. Even if you are in the right and the person you are angry with is in the wrong, the anger still only brings destruction into existence.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:39pm

      Feeling betrayed is not anger, and I’ve explained my screen name already. It has nothing to do with my overall disposition rather frustration when creating my account.

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  • neoconenemy
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:19pm

    Many libertarians are well aware of zionism and the jew world order. That genie is out of the bottle.

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  • Swalker
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:17pm

    The power and weight of AIPAC and the media keep the voices of opinions contrary to theirs silent. It is a sad day when America has to depend on one faction for news and finds the truth hidden away like this. To oppose the Israel Lobby is to become second class. I hope the Republicans see the reality and move ahead with honor.

    When we allow fiction to be presented as fact we loose our liberty.

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    • mrsuperpat
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 10:57pm

      We give them billions so they can create the largest lobby body in DC thats got their nose in all of our Affairs. Every politician must grovel to their feat because it is ordered by GOD. Is it possible other countries can set up lobby groups in our country to bribe corrupt politicians? Maybe we will see a Russian lobby ARPAC. Does anybody see how ridiculous this is?

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  • OperationNorthwoods
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:16pm

    Ron Paul has a very talented and creative organization. I don‘t blame the Republican party for offering positions to some of Paul’s staff.

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  • DarthMims
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:15pm

    Strategically, funding Israel’s military is a smart move on our part, but there are a lot of areas that we need to pull funding from. I have always been wary of people who beat on their chest and claim to be a “friend of Israel”, since the antichrist will be one of the most vocal “friends of Israel”, while it serves his purpose.

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    • bravjim
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:19pm

      Since the antichrist is supposed to be able to deceive Israel into thinking that he is their Messiah, doesn’t it make sense that he will actually be a Jew? After all, they still believe that messiah is yet to come and that he will be their new king David, coming straight from the line of David.

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  • riseandshine
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:12pm

    Submit to AIPAC or else.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:10pm

    And yet obama and democrats can always count on the jewish vote…..as they stengthen and support all of Israels enemies……idiots.

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    • Nepenthe
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:30pm

      That probably has to do with the large amount of money we continauuly give Israel each year, as well as the uncondtional support, no matter what Israel does.

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    • tzion
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 12:38pm

      @nepenthe
      It‘s not that the government’s support is unconditional, it’s that they believe they can control Israel by making her dependent on our aid.

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    • neoconenemy
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:09pm

      An increasing number of American jews don’t really care about Israel. They do however care about communism.

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