Pro-Life Billboard Turns Heads in Wisconsin
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A pro-life billboard ad is turning heads in Marinette, Wis., and garnering national attention for its matter-of-fact message.
Standing tall near the local high school, the advertisement shows a young pregnant woman fretting about how “My mom’s going to kill me.” In her womb, an equally concerned unborn baby is having similar visible thoughts: “My mom REALLY is going to KILL ME.”
According to local FOX affiliate WLUK-TV, the billboard has attracted a variety of responses. “It’s a little awkward and offensive,” Marinette High School sophomore Samantha Bosch said.
“It’s just an anti-abortion sign is all I really see it as,” said Shane Cahill, a senior.
The billboard’s sponsor is LifeCore, a non-profit organization based in Menominee, Michigan. “It’s the way teenagers talk,” Michael Ebert, LifeCore president explained. “If someone is out too late they say ‘my mother’s going to kill me.‘ This girl has gotten pregnant and she says ’my mom’s going to kill me.’ Well what we also have is this girl is pregnant, and it’s clear you can see the baby. The baby does not have a voice so we’re giving the baby a voice: ‘my mom really is going to kill me.’ We give a place that if they want help: Bay Area Pregnancy Services provides alternatives for abortion and helps the girls who get into this situation.”
“We have the message of what the problem is, and we have the message of where the girls can go to get help. No girl should have to go through this alone and they shouldn’t have to have an abortion,” said Ebert.
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Marylou7
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 5:31amWhat many girls don’t realize is that this may be their only pregnancy. They could be killing their only child.
Report Post »voted against carter
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 5:15amI AM conservative.
The difference between Conservatives and liberals on abortion is as follows;
Liberals are OK with killing baby’s BEFORE they are born.
Conservatives think you need to wait until they are at LEAST 18.
Note; This is an old Viet Nam era joke. It pertained to the Uncle Sam & the draft. you had to be 18 before they could draft you for the army. OK, I know I didn’t have to explain it, but you never know,..
Just say’n.
Report Post »justsaying
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:11amNot really funny. I used to be somewhat pro choice until I had a child. Any woman with children who is pro choice cannot have a conscience. There is no doubt… there is a CHILD growing inside of you, not cells.
Report Post »benditlikebeck
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:24amHilarious
Report Post »kontrarian
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:33amA child conceived through rape shouldn’t be aborted. Adoption is a viable option. In spite of the trauma of being raped and then carrying the rapist’s child, at least the woman will not later have to live with the haunting regret of having murdered her voiceless child. Although the child cannot voice his desire to live from the womb, we can see that all living things have a divinely imparted survival instinct. Any mother should fight for the life of her own child. Coping with a rape and pregnancy is very difficult, but not insurmountable. However, dealing with the guilt of having killed your own child, although the decision seems the best solution, will later cause a pain and mourning that pierces the heart and doesn’t diminish with time as much as other tragedies do.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 5:29amVery well said. It has to be extremely difficult but it’s much easier than living with the guilt of having killed a baby.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:25pmI said it before and I’ll say it again: When a woman is raped, ABORT THE RAPIST!!!
Report Post »Noah_Gardner
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:14amI’m sorry, this is a 10th Amendment issue. I’d rather not have this come up in a presidential debate EVER again. If abortion is legal/illegal in your state, and you are pro-life/pro-choice, MOVE!
Report Post »DMD
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:30am23 years ago I made the choice.
Report Post »Biggest mistake of my life. I am now PRO-LIFE!!!
Not a day goes by I don’t think about the child I aborted.
EAGLEMOM
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:43amDMD….you are not alone.
Report Post »Wendy in FL
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:11amDMD,
Report Post »Thank you for sharing that. As I always say, bringing a child into the world will never haunt you but an abortion will.
messenger
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:41amBigGreenBoo, That even made my skin crawl.
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 11:41amYeah…I have a knack for it. Get’s me dirty looks and punches in the mouth alot… but if your gonna be a bear… BE A GRIZZLY!!!
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 9, 2010 at 12:24am@BIGGREENBOO
Report Post »Your sick post is gone because I and possibly somebody else reported it.
Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it!
FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:26amIn all honesty, I love my pug more than I love my kid. I love both of them more than I love my wife. I love my wife more than I love my secretary who I’m shaggin. Love is all around us.
EAGLEMOM
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:23am@FREEDOM…..your point?
Report Post »patriotwoman
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:37amWas that really necessary? What, really, did that add to the conversation other than to prove you have no class.
Report Post »messenger
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:25amFreedom has a chip and it ain’t red, white or blue.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:11pm@EAGLEMOM ET AL I was tired when I posted this one. The only true part about that statement is that I have a dog (and he is not a pug). I have some personal experience with this issue and it really bothers me that men have no rights in the decision. I don’t have a child or pay child support. I was just using the issue to illustrate that if you want to shut out the father from all of the decisions before birth and if you want the right to end a life without the father’s consent, then why are you not willing to shut out the father when it comes to receiving child support if you do end up having a child? I am referring the the collective “you” here. My point is that there is a father involved when you have a child. The pro-choice laws as they exist, do not recognize this fact during pregnancy and it can result in your child being aborted whether you want that to happen or not.
Anyway, sorry for the snide comment. This story gets me going on lots of levels.
Report Post »RAISINGCONSERVATIVES
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:59ameveryone should listen to this woman speak…she is an abortion survivor…meaning her mom wanted to kill her and she survived anyway…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_zhEIpTjs
Report Post »AngryTexanFromAmarillo
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:39amWoW awesome video, I am pro life all the way and after seeing her speak i‘m more pro life than I was and I didn’t think that to be possible.
When I watch my 3 kids play and giggle and come running for me or their mother to kiss a recently received boo boo I can’t imagine anyone being able to kill a child. I would do anything to protect my children with out even a seconds hesitation.
Report Post »EAGLEMOM
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:00ampowerful video, thank you so much for sharing it.
Report Post »EAGLEMOM
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:55amThe issue is always “pro-choice“ vs ”pro-life”. I consider myself both. Forcing a woman to carry a baby that she does not want to carry is simply un-enforceable. We should not be legislating morality.
Most Americans would agree that abortion is not a good thing and I certainly agree with that. I think most if not all Americans who believe in God (which is a majority) would agree that it is a sin, as I do. Instead of working together to reduce the number of unwanted pregnacies and abortions, we simply fight one-side against the other while the number of unwanted pregnacies and abortions rise. On the extreme left they want unfettered abortion and they many times have alternative motives. On the extreme right, they want Roe v Wade overturned, period, no discussion.
The sad part of all of this, besides the obvious…. loss of life, is that woman are not counseled on the long term psychological effects of having an abortion. It is something that haunts their very soul for the rest of thier life. Most promiscuous girls have a low self esteem already. Having an abortion will increase their level of self loathing and self worth. As they grow up and face the may trials and tribulations of life, they are constantly haunted by thier decision. The older they get the harder it is on them because they are wiser and realize that the issues that drove them to have the abortion are much less consequential then they thought at the time. They keep this pain inside and it slowly eats away at them. When they have a miscariage, or their child becomes sick, or thier child, God fobid, dies…..they are always reminded of thier decision and it is like a knife in thier heart. Not that any of these misfortunes are a direct result of thier previous abortion, but they cannot help but feel guilty and wonder (irrationally) if their child is being made to pay for thier sins. Can you imagine how a mother might feel if she has an only child and when the child is older and says….”mom, why didn’t I have any brothers or sisters”… or maybe “mom, I wish I had a brother or a sister. The questions are innocent enough, but the internal thoughts to the woman is heartbreaking. Everytime the issue is brought up in the news, in movies, on TV or elsewhere they think about thier choice. They cannot escape the guilt. Most women would give up everything they have and then some to have it to do all over again.
So I beleive we need to stop the “pro-choice“ vs ”pro-life” retoric and ineffectual diatribe and focus on the root causes of unwanted pregnacies so that we can reduce the numbers. And as we all know there will always be some level of unwanted pregnancies in society and we MUST fight for laws that do away with late term abortions where there is a realistic possibility of the child being able to survive outside the wound; provide for required counseling that discusses all options and all consequences, without any ideological slant or bias; and provide feasable and realistic support for women after they make their choice whatever that choice may be.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:02amNo…abortion is murder. If a woman kills a child, put her in prison. Why is that such a hard thing for you to understand. It is a LIFE! You would be killing a life and that is MURDER.
Life belongs to God alone. It is not ours to take.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:14amIf it belongs to God, then how do we justify taking it every day in defense of our nation (which i am all for by the way). The hajis may belong to God but we are the ones who put the 50′s in em.
Report Post »EAGLEMOM
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:15amI agree it is the killing of a life and a sin. But that is between God and the woman. The government cannot force a human being to continue to carry that baby. What if abortion was not legal as you wish and a woman had a miscarriage could she be prosecuted because it is suspected that she may have been culpable in the miscarriage. Should we make laws that tell women what they can eat, drink and do while she is pregnant? My point is that while this argument goes on, nothing is being done about the problem. We must do something now to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions. Standing your ground on reversing roe v wade or nothing has done nothing to save the lives of babies or their mothers.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:42am@EAGLEMOM But it’s not just about the woman. There is a father involved. And because the law only gives choice to the woman, she can abort his baby despite his objection or carry it to term and force him to pay child support despite his objection. If choice is going to remain solely in the woman’s influence, then the choice regarding child support should be the man’s.
Report Post »EAGLEMOM
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:20am@FREEDOM….I agree with you that men are an important part of this issue. I was simply trying to explain the horrific psychological damage a woman suffers who has made this decision.I have no experience in speaking with men on this issue…so I cannot speak to what they go through. I wish that all women contemplating such a decision be required to undergo proper counseling. Most woman who have had abortions wishes they were told of the psychological consequences, wishes that people around them tried harder to talk them out of it. I wasn’t presenting this point to the exclusion of others. There are many issues to consider regarding this issue. Constitutional rights, the rights of the father, late term abortions, rape/incest cases, botched abortions, legislation regarding required counseling and others, access, insurance coverage/government subsidies, etc. I was addressing only a couple of the issues. This is a complex issue and while we fight “right to choose versus right to life”, the problem grows worse.
Report Post »EAGLEMOM
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:29am@FREEDOM….child support seems to be a big part of your post here. Although that is something to be considered in a real debate of the issue, certainly your views on this go deeper than that. I am not trying to snipe at you….just feel strongly that the issue is so much more profound than child support.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:12amabortion is a natural act.
it is a legal act
but not an act that should be encouraged.
…..why cant it be left at that?
Report Post »firstHat
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:07amLike you I think there is a gray area, but that gray area for me rises to the level of the act of murder in self defense and should be treated as seriously. There are rare times and places where abortion is appropriate, but in all we do no know when life starts.
Probably the only thing our president has ever said that I can agree with is that that knowledge belongs to someone above my pay grade. However, unlike the pres I say that to mean that I must err on the side of caution. It is life until I know otherwise.
I remember when abortion was first legalized and at that time we were told that a baby born at six months could not survive. We now know that isn’t true. I don’t trust science to tell me when it is life.
Report Post »messenger
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:18amHahahaha! MrButcher, you’re an unnatural act, but I love it.
Report Post »justsaying
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:19amAbortion is not natural.
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 11:50amAs long as we are living on planet earth, and as long as there is a fight between good (God) and evil (Satan) then there will always be morality issues to everything we do, such as abortion, the death penalty, self-defense, etc.. God told us to OBEY THE LAW OF THE LAND, but as for abortions, which are currently legal, you still have a choice. Therefore, if you are SERVING God (I DIDN’T SAY BELIEVING ONLY as anyone can believe in God and not serve Him), you will choose life. If you choose abortion, you know who you serve. If it was a mistake, then ask God to forgive you and then just do the right thing by that baby and move on.
As for the death penalty, if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. Putting someone to death for a heinous crime is certainly legal. So, if you cannot distinguish in your mind the difference between abortion and the death penalty (ONE IS MURDER, THE OTHER IS NOT), then you have a messy cluttered mind and view of things that are not biblical. I am anti-abortion but pro-death penalty. I also have a gun (legal) by my bed to protect me and my family from intruders. YES, I would shoot someone in a heartbeat and God would NOT blame me for it. IF YOU DO NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE HERE, then the Holy Spirit is not guiding you. The devil is. However, having said that, I would sure pray for someone if they are facing the gallows. Even God loves them and they deserve that last chance at heaven.
Report Post »SFconservative
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:54amEach and every day I am grateful for my adopted children and the brave young women who sacrificed to make a different kind of choice.
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:52amGood for them! I hope the bill board saves many lives both of young mothers and their children!!! I am in 100% support for the billboard!
http://www.josephfwacettart.com (western artist)
Report Post »Seneca
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:39amLet’s analyze this “pro-choice” label. The baby doesn’t have a choice; the father doesn’t have a choice. The father‘s family doesn’t have a choice. It seems to me that the victim’s sentiments would be the only one that counts. The victim of course is the baby, NOT THE MOTHER. Since when is having the gift of giving life victimizing? Unless, of course you are BHO, who considers having grandchildren “punishing his daughter”. “Pro-choice” is a politically correct term for ending life for the sake of contraception. The real choice belongs to those who choose to let the baby live. This board is full of those whose mothers “chose” not to abort their baby.
Report Post »SaraGolden
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:34amGREAT billboard. It cuts straight to the point. The situation isn’t all about the mom. There are at LEAST TWO parties here. Why does the one who can’t talk not have more people speaking out for it. Abortion is homicide.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:55amThis is the issue. I dont think anyone wants somebody to die. When does life begin? I say when brainwaves begin. 13 weeks. Others say at conception. You give us the answer.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:52amThere are at least THREE parties here.
Report Post »justsaying
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:17amWell, the heart starts beating long before 13 weeks…isn’t that life?
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:11pm@TRUTHTALKER
Report Post »When a human embryo is commenced, it has a full human DNA molecule. If it has human DNA, it is human. If the embryo is growing, i.e., cells are dividing, it has a spirit, The life-force within your individual cells collectively is your spirit. The baby may not yet have a soul, i.e. consciousness, but it has a spirit and is indeed alive from the very moment that sperm meets egg, actually even before that, since sperm and egg contain spirit.
Dddriver
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:25amThe answer is simple really : personal responsibility!
Report Post »Only in extreme cases should abortion be considered ( rape , death from complications ect……..)
If your old enough to screw your old enough to step up
Dustyluv
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:58amMurder following a rape? Dumb call…It is still a child and it is still murder.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:08am@DUSTY I agree with you on most stuff but I think a pregnancy resulting from a rape and a subsequent abortion is collateral damage from the crime of rape. The law could be written as such that when you rape you are guilty of a “murder” that occurs from an abortion. It would be abusive and traumatizing for a woman to have to carry her rapist’s child, not to mention the effects on her husband if she has one. I see a family falling apart and a woman with PTSD that would not resolve for years. If your relationship with God is strong enough to get you through that, more power to you but I don’t know one Christian girl who would be able to get through it without at least asking someone to track the rapist down and make him disappear.. It creates an even more ugly, escalating situation in my mind. And does the rapist get visitation when he gets out of prison? Tough issue.
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:43amFree – I agree with you.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:47amI agree it’s tough, but what is right with killing the unborn under ANY curcumstance? Besides, the trauma of rape rarely cuases pregnancy. If that did happen,,,carry the baby to term and you have a wonderful gift of God for someone to raise and to love…
Life is precious, it is God’s to take, not ours. For ANY reason.
Report Post »Wendy in FL
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:50amHere is the story of a brave woman who chose NOT to abort despite her health risk. Shortly after finding out she was pregnant, she was diagnosed with a brain tumor. In order to remove it, they would have to abort the baby. She did not want to terminate her pregnancy. She is now brain damaged but has no regrets. The beautiful little girl in the picture with her is the life she decided to keep: http://www.nicolepiperadams.com/ I am curious to read everyone’s comments on this story.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:36pm@DDDRIVER
Report Post »And again…When a woman is raped, ABORT THE RAPIST!!! not the baby. What the hell is wrong with you? Get your heart examined, quickly, for it is very sick. It is NEVER okay to kill a baby. If the Mother is at risk, that is sad, but she should be willing to lay down her life that her baby might experience hers.
ProLife4Life
Posted on October 9, 2010 at 12:19amI am definitely a woman who would rather have a baby, that’s the product of rape, than to kill an unborn even if half of his/her DNA was contributed by a rapist, because…guess what, the other half of the DNA is my own. It is absolutely the most UNNATURAL thing for a woman to want to harm (much less murder) her own child, in any circumstance. Abortion goes against ALL the instincts of any mother to want to lay down her life and protect her child in any situation.
Report Post »Uncle Sambo Lives Here
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:20amI’m all for TRUTH coming out for a change. All PCism has gotten us is crap.
Report Post »Damage6
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:17amGreat billboard. Reminds me of a discussion I once had. I’m pro life but that is a stance that is independent my belief in God. I believe that life begins at conception because once conceived an embryo will eventually reach the point that even the most ardent pro choice proponent cannot deny it‘s a human being provided you don’t kill it first. One of my pro choice acquaintances argued the point of what about a miscarriage? That embryo won’t become a baby. Following the logic that an embryo with some flaw that prevents full gestation makes it not alive leads to the logical conclusion that a child of say 10 who dies of a congenital heart defect was never alive to begin with so we should just liquidate him/her as soon as we find out about the flaw. The pro-choicer was stymied at that point and changed the subject.
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 11:48amBrilliant response. Of course if your friend was a member of the Fabian society his reply would have been, but yes of course, if you really loved the child you would smother it. :-)
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:16amWe’ve seen it many times on how people & firefighters put their efforts together to save a kitten under a bridge or somewhere else in danger & yet some people think it’s ok to have abortion .
Report Post »Don’t get me wrong I have nothing against Kittens , my Wife & I saved 2 kittens from a dumpster in August of 09 & they’re still with us .
I’m ProLife !!!!!!
TruthTalker
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:28amnice job equating an animal to a human.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:43am@Robert I see your point. BUT, kittens are cute and they are not attached to a devil woman to whom you must write a check for the next 21 years. Besides that, I see the analogy.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:48amI’m just chowing how ProChoice people cares more about saving animals than humans .
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:59am@ROBERTCA Kittems are cute and they are not attached to a devil woman to whom you must write checks for the next 21 years. So I like the analogy despite that slight difference.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:21amWith kittens you do not get the added benefit of writing a check to a devil woman once a month for the next 21 years.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:53pmRobertCA Sorry I posted that three times. I couldn’t get it to post so I tried a couple more times with different wording. I’m guessing the first two were held for moderation and published after a delay or something. My bad.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:29pm@FOS
Report Post »What they need to do is put a little note at the bottom of the screen informing people that their comment may take a few minutes to appear on the site. That would be the courteous thing for them to do, wouldn’t you say?
FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:52pm@Huckabee Gingrich 12 Good one. :) My bad.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:19pm@FOS
Report Post »I did the same thing when I first started posting here :)
RobertCA
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:48pm@ Freedom sometimes I’m having that problem too I think they need bigger servers this site is growing fast & I like that .
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:14amMaybe Sunstein will impose a penis tax.
Report Post »tierrah
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:34amROTF!!!!! Very witty remark :-)
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:13amOh God NO… I’ll go broke!!!!!
Report Post »mizflame98
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:47amNot a chance. All of Sunstein’s population control ideas are geared towards women. I think he has a real misogynistic streak..
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:20pmThis forum is badly degenerating.
Report Post »@ BIGGREENBOO
Please, just go back to whatever toilet of a website you were flushed in from, and, for the love of God, please get a vasectomy.
MrButcher
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:12amthis is great! wow! i really like this.
now the chritian-right is taking a reasoned aproach….
life is beautiful and deserves a chance
and the left is seeing the same thing.
i would love to donate $ to whomever put up that add and help make more of them.
Report Post »aeronut44
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:30amI put up the billboard, so you can make your check payable to Aeronut, Dallas Ga…thanks. I will be looking for it in the mail.
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on October 9, 2010 at 12:40amThe first time I saw an atheist take a reasoned approach.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:11amPeople who complain about these signs crack me up. A sign offends you? Really? You’re all for killing a fetus, but signs are inappropriate? Agree or disagree with abortion, you really can’t argue with that logic.
I do wonder, though: How many people at this site would support a pro-choice woman destroying it with a crowbar? Would you cheer on her tenacity like you did for that lunatic who destroyed the Jesus “art”?
People on both sides of the fence need to toughen up if you ask me.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:49amYou are an idiot. Comparing a real life with art.
Noah_Gardner
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:17am@n37
Report Post »HAHAHA!!! you hit the nail on the head.
Noah_Gardner
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:22am@truthtalker
Report Post »Before you call someone an idiot, you should realize that he was comparing one object that offends a group of people because of where it was displayed to another.
VTSickFreak
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:02amIt would be interesting to see how the media coverage and legal consequences would compare between the two scenarios…. destruction of painting vs. destruction of billboard.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:11pmUse of the dehumanizing term “fetus” is part of the problem. It utterly downplays the humanity of the unborn child. I strongly encourage people to refuse to refer to an unborn baby as such. A person is human from the moment of conception, and here’s proof: he has human DNA. If he has human DNA, but he’s not a human being, then what kind of being is he? Hmmm? And this is for any dolts out there who’d argue that abortion should be justified when a woman is impregnated by rape: when is woman is raped, ABORT THE RAPIST!!!
Report Post »SummerB
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:09amLook, for those who are anti-abortion, this is a great billboard. And from a business perspective in both it’s placement & advertising, is also a great billboard.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:34am@summer I think you’d need to know a little bit more about the oncoming traffic patterns and speed to make such a bold statement.
SummerB
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:03am@freedom By placement, I meant by a school. ;)
Report Post »smugsmiley
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:14amI personally would prefer a billboard advertising contraception and safe sex near a school. Dropping out at 14 because of a teen pregnancy isn’t usually the start of a productive life.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:11pm@Summer I know, I was just razzing you a bit.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:08am“It’s a little awkward and offensive,” Marinette High School sophomore Samantha Bosch said.
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Awwwww…. donchano we are not supposed to be awkward and offensive towards kids ?
Report Post »We are supposed to smother them, explode them or hang them by a noose
but don’t even think about putting a thought-blurb over a baby’s picture.
Wendy in FL
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:31amsmugsmiley,
Report Post »A teenage girl does not have to drop out of school because she gets pregnant. Most schools allow her to stay and if she prefers not to be seen pregnant at school there are countless homes for pregnant teens that allow her to continue her studies in a safe environment with other pregnant teens. They guide her and care for her throughout the pregnancy and birth and assist her in her choice as to whether she will keep the baby or put it up for adoption. No one drops out anymore.
beekeeper
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:12pmDO\on’t forget the teen pregnancy boom up in Glouchester, MA 2 years ago…
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1815845,00.html
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:04amas an atheist, i love this billboard and this idea.
life is grand and unexplainable.
please, don’t deny it or kill it
let it grow
how else will we advance?
cheers
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:26am@Butcher Your exwife wanted me to tell you that your child support check is late…again.
AmericanPatriot01
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:35amFree dont feed the trolls, as much as i know you probably want to… DON”T FEED THIS TROLL.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:47pmWe advance by accepting the love of our creator. You can read about it in the worlds most printed book. Also has a free APP. It’s the Bible.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 12:59amI am a Christian, but Dudes. Put youself in their shoes. And then make a decision. You hooked up with someone you dont know, because you are human, you have feelings and lust that you cant control unless you are super disaplpined and the result…and you certainly dont Love this stranger. .but you follow your lust, your are human. Don’t know, I am deeply disturbed around the issue. Give me some guidance. Dont be a loony,.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:05am@TruthTalker I would love to be pro-choice. The only problem in my mind is that “choice” belongs solely to the woman under the Roe v. Wade case law. A woman can decide to abort a man’s child despite his wishes or choose to have a child despite his wishes. Some liberal loons come out with an argument that, “Men make their choice when they have sex,” which is patently absurd. Both the man and the woman make a choice to have sex but only the woman chooses whether to abort the child or carry it to term. I cannot in principle be for a law that deprives the rights of an entire class to promote the rights of another. That’s why I am now pro-life. Not a moral issue for me, mostly because it doesn’t have to be. I oppose it on principal. If equal choice was afforded, I would then consider the moral implications.
Report Post »catllers
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:10amregret and haunting images when a woman chooses, I say don’t put yourself through that horror, it last all of your life. One can say they are pro-choice until she has to live with that choice.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:13amFeelings and lust CAN be controlled.
Here’s my recommendation. Spend some time with some babies. I mean play with them, interact, get down on the floor and be goofy. If you don’t then have an epiphany concerning abortion, you’re messed up, and need your heart fixed, and only Jesus can do that.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:19amThank you Freedom. I have also had the same thoughts and am with you, I however still have a deep down feeling I might be looking at the issue wrongly. This is what disturbs me.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:38am@Truth I may not be looking at it right either. You’ll figure it out in time.
Report Post »RAISINGCONSERVATIVES
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:39amBeing a Christian, I am sure that you are aware that God knows all of his children. Luke 12:6-7 “Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies[a]? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. 7Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.” He knows you In Jeremiah 1:5 it states “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you”. God has a plan for all of his children. All of His children are very precious to Him. By allowing abortion to continue, we take the blessings that these children are to become away, and also take the oppertunity for God to shine through adversity.
Report Post »These girls that are in these situations have made choices, all be it bad ones, and must suffer the consequences of their actions. The psycological scars that come with having an abortion can actually damage them more. At least giving the baby to a good home gives the girls hope that their child had a chance. Living with the knowledge that you killed your child, whether you realize it then or when you start a family of your own when you are older, is very heart breaking. Abortion clinics are not honest with these girls. They won’t let them see the ultrasound if they ask, because they know if they see it they won’t have the abortion. They will lie if the girls insist and say that they couldn’t get a “good” shot of the baby, and only show an image that doesn’t dipict an accurate veiw of what the baby looks like. They don‘t have the girls’ best interest at heart, they want their money. It is an industry filled with lies and they don’t tell the girls the actual damage that it can do to the them. The girls need to know that there are other options, and if this is getting someone’s attention and saves the lives of the unborn then it is a good service.
Chett
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:39amIts not something the government should be involved in one way or the other.
LifeProject2012
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:44amChett You are so right. I was telling my slaves that just the other day…
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:03am@LIFEPROJECT2012 Where’d you get slaves? Are they sex slaves or indentured workers? How much did they cost?
Report Post »scguitar
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:48ammost teens have abortions because they are scared and feel they are too young. “Say not, I am a child.” Jeremiah 1:7. When it comes down to being too afraid or uncertain, stick with your principles and values. Honestly, if tomorrow I got drunk, met a girl, hooked up with her, and found out a couple weeks later she was pregnant, I would be scared and pissed because there goes my college days. But I would stick to what I believe. Keeping my child alive is more important than having a good time for a couple years. Only cowards and losers leave a pregnant woman. You must have firm reliance on Divine Providence, knowing that God will guide you and be with you every step of the way. Do you think if the child could give it’s opinion, it would want to die? It did nothing wrong and its not fair to the baby. Everybody keeps saying life begins when there is a heart beat. Plants and single celled organisms are living, yet they have no heart beats. When the egg and sperm come together, it is at that moment a single-celled human is created. Undeveloped, yes, but human nonetheless
Report Post »Farmhand
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:33amWorst case scenario you give the kid up for adoption. Its not the babies fault you’re not smart enough to figure that little wet sock thing out.
Report Post »Huff-a-Ton Post
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 5:29amI truly believe a woman has a right to choose. And that applies to women who are not yet born. My wife and I already knew our daughter’s personality many months before she was born. I like the reference to DNA dividing, sounds like life to me.
Report Post »dantom
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:34amtake the dude part and ram it.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:03amNo, what the government shouldn’t be involved in is our freedom to choose things. But the option to choose abortion is not one covered under our freedoms, in the same way the option to gun down someone isn’t. So, no the government shouldn’t be involved in our free choice.
Report Post »However, the government SHOULD be involved when it involves criminal activity. And murder is that. And abortion is murdering a child whether you like the way that sounds or not.
And tell me this: how is it that if a man kills his pregnant wife, he is brought up on 2—-2!!! charges of murder????? Double standard huh?
The child in the woman’s body is NOT part of her body. It’s a human being all on its own and only IN her body for gestation. It’s requires the support of the mother to live but someday, you cut the umbilical cord and the baby lives on its own. Do you cut your arm off? Your leg off?
No because it’s part of your body. The baby is not. This is not a matter of choice, folks.
ninja97
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:36amYou can’t call yourself a Christian and be “Pro Choice”. God makes it CRYSTAL clear in the Bible that you’re not aborting a lifeless lump of cells. Your are KILLING a human being.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:02amMy 17 year old niece is a Christian and about nine months ago she got pregnant from her boyfriend, who is also a Christian. Abortion was never an option. Everyone in both families worked together to make the best of a bad situation, the kids got married and this week she had a handsome little boy. I can’t tell you how proud I am of those two kids. They could have done the “easy” thing and lied to cover up the pregnancy and then murdered to cover up the lie, but they didn’t. I have complete faith and confidence that their child will be a blessing to many in this world and that those kids will grow old together because they honored God.
Report Post »FaithShekinah
Posted on October 10, 2010 at 12:58pm@TruthTalker and anybody else who thinks the heart beats at 8 weeks. The heart actually begins to beat as early as 4 1/2 weeks, look at this video http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=21 for proof. There’s recordable brainwaves at 6 weeks, see this video http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=33. I encourage you to explore that site and those videos, you can see the amazing development of the baby, from CONCEPTION to BIRTH. Women can’t get a positive pregnancy test until 4-6 weeks, so by the time she finds out, according to your beliefs, it’s too late to kill the baby. I just want people to be informed correctly.
Report Post »Mithra
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 12:53amPlaying on the fear of our youth. Can we say contraception?
Report Post »LifeProject2012
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:05amBetter yet, let’s just kill off the pregnant women. Obama would support the savings on health care costs.
Report Post »Gas137
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:19amA problem with this type of add is that people avoid messages with no positive alternatives included in the frightening presentation. Perhaps in addition to a number to call for help, another panel could have been added saying, “I won’t kill you baby”. Simple and direct.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:49amThey are actually teaching in Sex Education – contraception again – it for years has been abstinence only!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-c2
Report Post »claymoremacm
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:32amWhen I found out how an IUD works “ie”an abortion a month,it still freaks me out.Life begins at conseption!
Report Post »Barb1954
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:35amEven better….Can we say ABSTINENCE????
Report Post »mizflame98
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:45am“It’s a little awkward and offensive,” Marinette High School sophomore Samantha Bosch said.
Sometimes the truth is awkward.
Report Post »CottonMPG
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:54amContraception is a trap. You feel safe so you’re more likely to sleep around. If you take the bait and don’t get pregnant you feel validated, you were right it was safe, so you sleep around more. No contraceptive is 100% effective, so it’s only a matter of time before it fails and you end up with an STD or pregnant. This is a practical way of looking at the situation without regard to morality or sin. I’m uniquely qualified to tell you that abstinance works 100% of the time. I am single and have no children, by choice and without ever having to kill anyone.
Report Post »4kidsandacat
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 11:40amBarb and Cotton: Dead on. I was hoping someone would say it, if not I would. There are all sorts of other problems with chemical contraception and also devices that work against the balance of the human body. And condoms break (I know!). Why would I want to feed this kind of stuff to a child that I love? This whole idea that kids cannot control themselves is BS. Lots of kids manage and have for years. It’s only recently that this whole idea that “we can’t teach them to control themselves so we might as well equip them” has cropped up. This, btw, is one of Margaret Sanger’s big ideas, this idea of sex at any age and as much as you want. Here’s a thought: If we can’t teach them to have self-control long enough to wait for marriage, who says they will have enough self control to even remember to take the pill or put on that condom? I\‘m betting that’s true of a lot of cases of teen pregnancy. I‘ve personally heard a lot of teen girls who became pregnant say that they just didn’t bother to take the time to use birth control. So that’s really been effective, don’t you think?
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:56pmI know this is a petty thing to write, especially considering the gravity of the subject matter, but, I hate it when people use the phrase “Can we/you say…” It’s so condescending and simple-minded. We’re all grown-ups here and Mr. Rogers used that phrase to teach children. If you’ve got something to say, can’t you say it like an adult? Time to grow up and use big-people phrases. Just sayin’.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 12:50amI was pro-choice once. Then I realized that men have no choice at all. So now I’m pro life. Ideally I think both parties should have some choice but until then I’m on the other side.
Obama burns books like the Nazis.
Report Post »AzMike
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:10amI was pro choice until my wife (not at the time that came later…get the idea here?) became pregnant. I went to the doctor visits, saw the heartbeats, saw the sonograms. The biggest worry I had was she would end it, of course she didn’t. I thank god every day for that boy and his mom, even on the days he makes me want to like that girl on the sign figuratively “kill him”. I find it hard to believe anyone with a child can be pro choice, I really do.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:37amHeatbeat starts at 8 weeks, brainwave activity begins at 13 weeks. anything beyond that is murder. I am with you. Before, .. I dont know the answer and I feel bad for saying that..cause I dont know….
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 1:54amNo…anything beyond CONCEPTION is murder….When the sperm fertilizes the egg, life begins!
Report Post »FieryRed
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:13amI am extremely pro-choice and God is as well. The only thing is ~the choice begins and ENDS as to whether or not you have sex. Everyone knows the consequences of sex=baby. If you can’t contain your lust ~get on the pill and use a friggin condom.
Quack Addict
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:16amI love this ad. Tell it like it is!
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:19am@FIERYRED I’m with you. So what happens when preventive measures fail? Should there be choice to one party? Both parties? No parties? Just wondering what you think about that.
Report Post »solaveritas
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:29amINDIVIDUAL reproductive choice is whether to have sex and start a life.
After life starts (heartbeat), there are TWO PERSONS, thus no more individual choice.
Anyone who defends abortion after the baby can feel pain is a selfish murder, and that includes our President.
I love the ad. It doesn’t show a bloody aborted baby. It gives hopeful information.
Show pictures of beautiful preborns or newborns. Support required sonograms. God designed women’s instincts to love, and they will not abort.
Report Post »Svt4Him
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:33amWhat happens when preventative measures fail? Well, kill the baby then, cause that surely is his or her fault. Heck, my emergency brake failed once so I went out and killed someone else for it.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:37amI’m with you. If we’re going to allow a mother to give up and walk away on a child by abortion or leaving it at the firestation, then why can’t a man have the same rights and be allowed to just walk away from a pregnant wife or newborn child?
I do not condone men not manning up and taking responsibility. But, if we allow women to do these things and don’t hold them accountable, then what right does a woman have to hold a man accountable in a legal sense?
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 2:45amContraception led to abortion. How bout wait till you get married, then have children….what a concept.
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 4:22amIt all boils down to personal responsibility on the part of both parties, both before and after sex and after inception. They both need to be included in the decision, guided by their moral and religous obligations and beliefs. God will judge them accordingly, but even the angels are not allowed to interfere with free will. They will make their choice and benefit from blessing, or face punishment, from their creator. No man or government should be able to take that choice away from them.
I am conditionally pro life, personally, but that is my choice. You get to make your own choice.
Report Post »allensmithee789
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 5:15amLIFE begins AT CONCEPTION because:
Report Post »1. Even in a single cell, all the DNA for that person is complete.
2. An embryo’s dependency on mom for food, warmth, shelter, and safety holds true for even toddlers and some teenagers. No one is “pro-choice” for toddlers, but some are for teenagers :-).
3. How secure would social security be now if Roe versus Wade did not kill all those young ripe for unconstitutional Social Security Payroll taxation and social security fund mismanagement?
4. Given the millions of killed babies, how many would have been outstanding artists, athletes, scientists, businessmen, and dare I say it politicians? How much better the world today would be?
5. From Justice Bork’s wife, if an adult, who is in a severe accident becomes disfigured and required respiratory support, nutritional support, and couldn’t communicate with you, but in most cases will be normal in 9 months, would you still pull the plug on the adult up to 6 months or at 8.5 months? Similarly, just cause a fetus early-on doesn’t look, have a heart, can’t feed itself without a placenta, or have measureable brain activity like a full-term baby doesn‘t mean it isn’t a live baby at conception.
6. Who is entitled to the creating and/or taking of a life? The entity who created it — God. Moms and dads do NOT create life. A simple thing such as a pencil couldn’t make itself through random events and millions of years. The act of creation by a woman and a man has to be God mediated for life is so much more complicated and sacred than a pencil.
7. Women who get abortions are messed up mentally perpetually wondering about the life they took. Like Shakespeares’ Lady Macbeth, a little water makes the blood mess come clean but the spiritual mess drove her mad with hand washing, “Out, out damn spot.” Any takers for that kind of misery? 8. Adoption certainly sounds like a better option with a hefty dose of personal responsibility. Sex within Marriage anyone? Old fashioned or time tested for true happiness — your decision or your madness.
jnickm
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 6:18amMorals and responsibility. Along with ethics, I fear we have become an immoral and irresponsible nation. I realize it’s nothing new, just more prevalent. I believe the Pill was the beginning of the end. What happened to our social mores? Has eugenics become a part of our everyday lives?
Report Post »As a former fetus, I oppose indiscriminate abortions.
Thank you and god bless us all.
independentvoteril
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:24am@TruthTalker.. I agree which is why most Republicans do not want to Poll me.. A very heated subject for many..a very hard and emotional decision for all..
Report Post »Areyoukiddingme
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:52amTrue Story from a month ago that happened to me:
Siting in a restaurant three girls in there early 20′s were in the next booth. About a block a way is a plan parenthood. I am waiting for my food and over hear a conversation. Consisted of: that these girls were going parting this weekend and shopping. the one says to her friends: “Oh did i tell you i am pregnant?” the other girls didn’t even bat an eye. then the one girl says: “well i guess you wont be going out this weekend.” then the pregnant girl says: No i am going next door tomorrow.” It is entirely too easy to murder children.
MattyFos
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:41amI’m pro-choice.
Report Post »I’m for the choice of raising your child or adoption.
flamingliberal
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:49amHogwash. If you don’t want teen moms aborting their spawn, then allow Birth Control, and condoms to be the rule, rather than the exception. These ridiculous “Abstinence” messages are just that, ridiculous.
JJ Coolay
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:52amI find it kind of odd that someone would say this billboard is offensive.
Isn’t killing someone a bit offensive?
What, the truth hurts??
And let me say: this is not an issue of “choice”
Report Post »People have this so screwed up.
That baby in the woman‘s body IS NOT PART OF THE WOMAN’S BODY.
How hard is that to understand? It’s a separate human being.
NickyLouse
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:07am@DUSTY & SOLA: what is it that is growing before the heartbeat? Is it something other than a unique human? Consider its DNA when you answer that question. Here’s another question, under what circumstances does a human have less rights to live? Think about the Fabians.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:14amHere’s what I find fascinating (I know, you were all on the edge of your seats waiting for me to chime in! ;^):
The billboard simply states an opinion on what the cartoon woman is planning to do with the baby/fetus/couple of cells in her womb…
It doesn’t talk about how she came to be pregnant.
It doesn’t talk about the specifics of the procedure.
It doesn’t talk about the morality of the procedure.
It doesn’t talk about the funding of the procedure.
It doesn’t talk about the qualifications of the person paying for it.
It doesn’t talk about the legal rights of the woman (or the man) involved in creating this baby/fetus/couple of cells.
It simply speaks to the nature of the (apparently) planned abortion – and I think what makes it so powerful is that it forces the reader to consider the situation from the perspective of the baby/fetus/couple of cells, and in so doing makes the reader empathise and personalize the baby/fetus/collection of cells.
To the baby/fetus/collection of cells all the above is “noise” – that is the most important thing to remember, everything else is just noise.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:31amSo-called Liberals are liars who tell voters anything to pursue their agenda of destroying America, they are thieves who think it’s okay to steal from productive citizens and they are murderers who slaughter helpless babies in their mothers’ wombs. When you start indoctrinating children at an early age into the beliefs that they are descendants of pond scum who get to make up their own morality, this is the kind of society you wind up with. At any rate, great billboard, I have a feeling that sleeping giant is getting out of bed, finally.
Report Post »GardenoftheGods
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:13amI was pro-choice once too, until I got pregnant at 19 & realized I would be committing murder if I killed that baby. He’s 32 now & has given me 3 wonderful grandchildren and I couldn’t be more blessed! When u realize what goes into sperm & egg becoming a baby..no one can convince me that God’s hand is not in it. He so very much is!
Report Post »5
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:18amI was pro-choice once. Then I seen a Baby cut up into chuncks.
IT‘S ONLY A CHOICE IF YOU DON’T WANT THE BABY.
IT’S A BABY!
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:20amI was never really pro-choice. Of my three sons, neither of them were planned. But there is something so precious about life that I could never choose abortion except under a few circumstances, like rape, or the mom’s health truly being at risk. However, being at risk does not mean just not wanting the responsibility of raising a child. Being a parent and raising that child is about the most difficult choice in life, but the rewards are immeasurable. Yes, there will be pain and pleasure alike but the latter far outweighs the prior. On the other hand there are many who cannot handle child rearing, and in those cases the mother should consider placing the child into adoption services. So many otherwise healthy men and women want a child but cannot conceive. You would be giving them as well as a new child the gift of life and you will be rewarded eternally.
Report Post »leanright
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 10:25amtruthtalker- it’s a felony to harm a dead human being, is it really that far a reach to work it in reverse? A life can’t start without conception, the heart starts beating at 8 weeks- in those 8 weeks shouldn’t apply the same respect, logic and laws as we do to a dead human for eternity? Human right should start at conception.
Report Post »Waiting4George
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 11:17amDear Flaming Liberal:
Report Post »Liberal policies and taxpayer funded government programs over the last 40 years have provided sex education, free condoms and and birth control without parental consent. Your policies have failed miserably so the liberal final solution is abortion as “birth control”. Unfortunately, your liberal welfare policies have promoted multiple births by multiple fathers as an incentive to keep the child and increase welfare benefits. Such a dillema for you-nudge,push shove to govt ordered abortions under govt healthcare.
democratgirl
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 11:26amMany years ago, before it was legal, I had an abortion. IT BECAME A LIFELONG NIGHTMARE for me to this day. Now that I am a Christian, God has forgiven me for that, but I am still haunted by the fact that I actually took a human life (yes, it is human). It is simply awful that we are a throwaway society and if it bothers us, we just throw it away to get rid of it, no matter what it is. Each of us has an inflated ego that the devil has talked us into accepting and justifying. However, when you put that ego aside, you begin seeing love; love for mankind, love for unborn children, love for things that are wrong that you think you might be able to help fix. You then begin caring about someone other than yourself. Pro-choice is the devil’s term. NOT GOD’s.
Report Post »Peters
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 12:58pmYeah . . . this is a long post; but the bigger issue, it is complex and in need of dissection. Be patient; and think about it.
Abortion . . . assisted suicide, welfare, most all social issues . . . they are the things Democrats are made of. They live and they die by these issues because each has great political value. But in the process know that Democrats leave economics to be viewed as a mere tool of government, of taxation and redistribution; notions that are consistent with the ideas of socialism. But alarmingly, that doesn’t deter young citizens. So, let’s discuss why that is; and in that, the issue of “abortion” is very much related.
To begin with, know that one single declarative sentence above holds the key to Republican victories, now and perpetually: “Social issues are the things Democrats are made of.”
But Republicans, relatively, have no interest in recognizing the Democrat agenda as having any worth to them. As a result, a slew of moderates and independents float between the parties and will not get attached to the Republican Party because social issues do not get addressed there. This group of intelligent people sees this reality quite clearly: Republicans have a history of ignoring social and cultural issues in any way that speaks to individuals that have “liberal” slants to their views on society and culture. The result is an image that the Republican Party is in essence telling this significant group to be quiet and take what they get from capitalism, but to keep quiet; you get what you get; social issues are secondary to Republican concerns.
Republicans in this regard have a serious problem. It’s an image problem but one that can be corrected because the Tea Party is very much in their corner and very much concerned about society and culture. The Tea Party carries with it a palatable freshness in its understanding that much of our economic problems are tied to cultural problems, to social problems. In other words, let’s be honest about why Obama was capable of duping an entire country. Let’s be honest that antiquated Republican thought wants to reject all that’s new and evolving; all the while the world is speeding by and leaving us in its liberal tracks.
Simply, we recognize collectively, that the environment our culture exists in is shapeable. And because it is, it has to be recognized that you are either an active participant in its shaping or you are left to be shaped by it, by what is created for you, by others.
In part, this is the explanation of why the Republican Party has the social and cultural image problem that it has. The Republican position has been that society and culture exist in a box, that all efforts should be directed at keeping it contained within the box. But know that they act this way only in defense; liberals have historically attempted to dismantle and destroy the box pounding on its outsides and from within. Therefore, the box gets dismantled uncontested around us as we are watching.
But be assured, Republicans feel American society, their ideas of society existing in a protective box, in fact needs air to breathe, to grow and to evolve, but it’s at a pace that is much slower than agitated crowds are willing to accept. Unfortunately however, Republicans live in a socio-political and cultural environment where they have been fighting Liberalism’s desire to blow the top and sides off the socio-political box all at once, regardless of the outcomes, and for decades now.
As a result, Republicans have become socially very much the Party of “No” as Obama says they are. This is one of the very few things Obama is not lying about. But it’s critically important to understand that Republican resistance, the appearance of always saying “no,” is the result of Liberalism discovering how to operate within the American system our Founders created. They are inside now taking things apart piece by piece.
Know that today’s brand of American Liberalism evolved from the mindset that agreed with Bill Ayers, of blowing things up and making grave threats . . . as in terrorism. However, what Liberalism discovered with their revolutionary pioneer, Mr. Ayers, was that “helter-skelter” techniques were proven to be ineffective against the American democracy that our Founders created. Liberalism discovered that they had to get further inside; they had to change the culture, change the society. And then, enter the Clintons and “it takes a village.”
But the difference between now and then is that they’ve evolved over time and have realized along the way that to blow the top and sides off, they must first pry the lid open, get inside and separate it at the seams. They have been very patient and diligent, like termites eating away for decades at a super structure leaving only the appearance of a solid core of beams and timbers. At the point of full consumption, the box will collapse and all that it contains will be set wantonly free; “helter-skelter” by another means.
Understanding this allows us to know that Republicans must stop running away from confronting the issues that liberals embrace, turning away as though these issues are not real or important. When Republicans understand what independents want, socially and culturally, the proper dialogues will follow, and new trusts will be built.
But one critical thing must be understood about the liberal Democrat mix, the mix of issues they thrive on by way of agitating awareness is very much tied to their ability to create the image of the Republican Party being deaf to the social and cultural issues of our time. Strategically critical though, is that all the while they are doing this, effectively Liberalism is not correcting any problems because they lack the economic plan, as in socialism doesn’t work. All we have to do is look at their so called “war on poverty” and “new deal” to understand this. Socialism will not ever deliver on the social issues it promises to emancipate its people from; it never does because it can’t afford to economically, and because it is littered with corruption.
So when we speak to social issues like abortion, the Republicans, have allowed themselves to be given an image of “NO” because they refuse to confront the social mess except with old stale rhetoric. Traditional values they say will answer the social and cultural problems of our times. And although they are right, our society is no longer equipped to understand what that means; it is empty talk; Liberalism, their media, has won that battle. And it allows liberals to continue on with their agitation and accusations that Conservatives and Republicans simply want to return to the past, the old ideas of the past.
Report Post »And don’t misunderstand; conservatism does not need to moderate. That is not the point. The point is to understand that our society has evolved and is continually evolving. Unplanned pregnancies are real; they happen and real people have to deal with them. If they are given no other alternatives aside from what Liberalism has created for them, because Republicans are offering nothing, Liberalism is all they have to choose from; it is where they will go.
The point is Republicans must make abortion a non-issue. Yes, a non issue. They can do this by pledging and then following through with developing an understanding of the issue in its entirety, and then taking it to task . . . to understand that God’s people make mistakes; and that God’s people do not have all the answers especially when they are young and scared, confused and disoriented by the reality of serious life situations while still having an innate desire to simply continue on being a kid, a young adult that has natural desires to experience life to its fullest. These feelings are real . . . they result in real decisions and real actions by real people that vote.
Republicans, you have to stop turning your back on the parts of society that disgusts you or you don’t feel warrant your time to understand. You have to know that what it is that disgusts you are the things that you have created or allowed to be created. You have allowed Liberalism to thrive and overtake, to take control of social issues such as abortion; issues that are best cared for in the hands of conservative guidance. You must allow that voice to be heard.
You have handed the keys of social issues, of American culture over to Liberalism because you refuse to roll up your sleeves and stick your face in it politically and until it’s fixed. Your image, the one Liberalism has created for you, is that you believe our society lives in a box where no one is allowed to go beyond its perimeter. That’s your image, not your reality. Start by fixing that: Allow the Tea Party in with open arms; welcome them in as ambassadors to the culture you need to embrace, to understand, to work for and provide for . . . to shape, and re-shape into a culture that is America.
Abortion will not go away . . . face it, debate it. Boldly make it an issue and take control of the message.
SustainingLiberty
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:24pmI think using the word Pro-Choice is misleading, since it gives no “choice” to the child. It should be referred to what it really is, Pro Death. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ
Report Post »This is a Video of an Abortion Survivor named Gianna Jessen, Warning: may Tug a heart strings a bit =) Very inspiring as well
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Posted on October 8, 2010 at 7:52pm@PETERS
Report Post »Some of us are, to borrow a phrase, “riddled with ADD”. I would be much more likely to read your dissertation if you were to condense it down to a reasonable length. As it stands, I’m just scrolling right past, which is too bad. You obviously spent a lot of time on it.
RCScrolls
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 8:51pmI speak on behalf of the BABY I want to live.
Report Post »I CHOOSE LIFE
BelieveInGod
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:12pmActually, both tthe man and the woman have the same choice initially, to abstain or not to abstain.
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Posted on October 8, 2010 at 9:14pm@SOLIVERITAS
Report Post »Two things:
First, life begins before the heartbeat. If embryonic cells are dividing, they have a spirit, i.e., a life-force, hence they are alive.
Secondly, screw your notion about required sonograms. Why do people like you think other people should be required to purchase/receive services they may not want? I’m not against sonograms, but,they should not be required, especially in light of the fact that their safety is questionable and controversial. Usually when someone wants the purchase of a particular product or service “required”, that person stands to profit somehow. Maybe you mean well, but the world did fine w/out sonograms for the first six millenium, and we’ll do fine w/out them now if we want. I think people like you should be required to smell my work boots at the end of a hot summer day.
thesixfour
Posted on October 9, 2010 at 8:27am1. Even in a single cell, all the DNA for that person is complete.
Could be an even better argument that this is murder at every “stage” than that billboard itself.
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