Proposed Mississippi Anti-Abortion Amendment Declares that Life Begins at Fertilization
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JACKSON, Miss. (The Blaze/AP) — The Blaze has reported extensively on the fact that the tides of public opinion and policy appear to be changing when it comes to abortion. In states across the nation, restrictions are increasingly being placed on procedures that seek to terminate pregnancies.
A national effort to put abortion bans into state constitutions is looking for its first victory next month in Mississippi, where voters are being asked to approve an amendment declaring that life begins when a human egg is fertilized.
Supporters hope the so-called personhood initiative will succeed in a Bible Belt state that already has some of the nation’s toughest abortion regulations and only a single clinic where the procedures are performed.
The initiative is endorsed by both candidates in a governor‘s race that’s being decided the same day. While Mississippi is the only state with such an amendment on the ballot this fall, efforts are under way to put the question to voters in at least four other states in 2012.
Any victory at the state level would likely be short-lived since a life-at-fertilization amendment would conflict with the U.S. Constitution. Leaders of the movement say their ultimate goal is to provoke a court fight to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision that established a legal right to abortion.
Opponents say defining life as beginning at fertilization could block some common forms of birth control and deter Mississippi physicians from performing in vitro fertilization because they‘d fear criminal charges if an embryo doesn’t survive. They also say supporters of the amendment are trying to impose their religious beliefs on others to force women to carry unwanted pregnancies, including those caused by rape or incest.
Those campaigning for the Mississippi initiative – including the Tupelo-based American Family Association – are using glowing images of babies in utero or chubby-cheeked newborns, and say they’re trying to end a sin that blights America.
The proposal being decided Nov. 8 has divided the medical community and bewildered some physicians.
“We feel like the docs and the patients are getting caught in the middle of a war between the anti-abortion folks and the pro-choice folks,” said Dr. Wayne Slocum of Tupelo, head of the Mississippi section of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, a group that opposes the initiative.
George Cochran, a University of Mississippi constitutional law professor, said even if Mississippi voters adopt the initiative, he believes it‘s unlikely to ever be enforced because it’s certain to be challenged and overturned in court.
“Suits are brought, they have it declared unconstitutional,” Cochran said. “It’s not very difficult.”
Cochran said there’s a 5-4 majority on the U.S. Supreme Court now to uphold Roe v. Wade. That and other Supreme Court rulings have required states to allow abortions up to the point that a fetus could survive outside of the womb – approximately 24 weeks.
Still, a win at the ballot box “will send shockwaves around this country, then around the world,” predicted Keith Mason, co-founder of Personhood USA, the Colorado group that’s pushing the petition drives around the country.
Mason’s group eventually wants to amend the U.S. Constitution to say life begins at fertilization, and he hopes the push for state constitutional amendments will create momentum. Similar “human life” amendments have been introduced on the federal level repeatedly over the past 30 years and have failed.
Thad Hall, a University of Utah professor who has written a book about abortion politics, said people who want to outlaw abortion are seeking state-by-state changes that often put the question to voters, rather than federal changes.
“What you see here is a kind of difference between slowness and difficulty in policy changes on federal level … and the ease with which states can change public policy,” Hall said.
People are gathering signatures in Florida, Montana, Ohio and Oregon to try to put personhood initiatives on ballots starting in 2012, Mason said. He said similar efforts will begin soon in eight other states.
Personhood Ohio said Friday that it had reached its first threshold toward the 2012 ballot by gathering more than 1,000 signatures, allowing it to start knocking on doors to gather the rest of the 385,000 signatures it needs.
Previously, Mason’s group got amendments on Colorado ballots in 2008 and 2010, but they were rejected. Some groups that oppose abortion, including Eagle Forum, opposed the Colorado efforts, saying the ballot initiatives only enriched Planned Parenthood and other groups that support abortion rights.
In Mississippi, the state’s largest Christian denomination, the Mississippi Baptist Convention, is backing the personhood proposal through its lobbying arm, the Christian Action Commission. “The Lord expects us to value life, even as he does,” the commission’s executive director, Jimmy Porter, says in a video:
And here’s Mississippi Catholic leader and hospital CEO, Sister Dorothea, throwing her support behind the initiative:
The state already has several laws regulating abortions, including parental or judicial consent for any minor to get an abortion and mandatory in-person counseling and a 24-hour wait before any woman can terminate a pregnancy.
The Mississippi State Medical Association says it is not supporting the initiative – a step short of actively opposing it.
“I agree with the sentiments of this movement; but, I can’t agree with throwing a physician into a system where the decision will not be malpractice but wrongful death or murder,” the group’s president and family physician Dr. Thomas E. Joiner wrote in a letter to members.
Slocum, who leads the ob-gyn group, said the amendment could ban forms of birth control that prevent a fertilized egg from implanting, such as the IUD or the morning-after pill, and that it might limit physicians’ willingness to perform in vitro fertilization.
The American Society for Reproductive Medicine also opposes the amendment, saying it would “unduly restrict an infertile patient’s right to make decisions about embryos created as part of the in vitro fertilization process.”
Dr. Freda Bush of Jackson, an obstetrician-gynecologist who’s campaigning for the ballot measure, said she believes the initiative would not affect hormonal birth control pills or curtail in vitro fertilization. She said opponents of the ballot measure are spreading rumors to scare people.
The Mississippi initiative has already survived a legal effort to keep it off the ballot. One of the plaintiffs was Christen Hemmins of Oxford, who was raped by two strangers in 1991 in Jackson.
She said she didn’t become pregnant through the rape, but she’s insulted that any woman who does should have to carry out an unwanted pregnancy, whether it came about through rape or other circumstances.
“I just think it‘s a travesty in America that the government could make me bear a child that I don’t want to have or that could endanger my life as a victim of rape or a violent crime,” Hemmins said.
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Comments (177)
Lion420
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:52amThe latest scientific studies have shown heart rate and brain fuction within a few days. How ignorant do you have to be, to pull the old “They’re shoving their religious beliefs down our throats” argument? Forget the religious aspect. This is not a simple issue of faith or belief. We’re discussing human beings. not the selections one the menu borad at McDonalds. This is yet another example of how The American society has become pathetically weak. We can’t even defned LIFE.
Report Post »GodHatesFigs
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:13amAccording to the Mayo clinic, “The fifth week of pregnancy, or the third week after conception, marks the beginning of the embryonic period. This is when the baby’s brain, spinal cord, heart and other organs begin to form.” I don’t think your facts are correct.
Report Post »Constructionist
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:51amMy biggest problem with abortion is the government double standard. A woman has a ‘right’ to abort her child based on the legal notion that the fetus is not yet a person. However, if someone kills a pregnant woman the government will charge them with multiple counts of murder, because magically, the fetus now IS a human. You can’t have it both ways.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:06amExactly! The attitudes of women about their fetus magically change when it is against their will. You know, murderers often say their victim “needed killing”. Women never lose their fetus in a car wreck without suing for the loss of life.
In this particular question, there can not be 2 different interpretations – it is either alive or it is not. And all law thereafter must proceed based upon this decision, which is not even ours to make – our constitution decided it centuries ago, and it was right then just as it is right now.
Report Post »johnannegalt
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:26pmHmm, you don‘t want to bear a child you don’t want to have? Don’t spread your legs. It‘s not the child’s fault you’re trying to escape responsibility, why should it’s life be threatened? You were raped? So, punish the child because the father was a sick criminal? Even if abortions were only permitted in rape cases, that would eliminate 98% of abortions. Now, self defense IS legal. If your child is actively killing you by existing, it’s threatening YOUR life and to kill it is an act of self defense. That is the only acceptible “abortion”, and that scenario makes up less than .01% of all abortions.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:27pmThese people just will never get it. She wants out from under child birth but still desires sex. God had something to say about this. Unto the women he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow in conception, in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Gen 3:16
Report Post »MSMOM
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:36pmAbortion is neccesary in some cases and I can appreciate that aspect of it, but it should never be a form of birth control…Contraceptives are too readily available.
Report Post »Chutz
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 4:46pm@encinom
Report Post »What part of the constitution does anti abortion legislation contradict? Everyone keeps claiming it’s in the constitution……WHERE?!
encinom
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 5:00pm@Cutz
You first mistake, you fail to understand the role of the US Supreme Court in determining the meaning of the various clauses and amendments within the Constitution. Of cause there is the 9th Amendment also, which is a catch all clause stating that American citizens have more rights than those listed in the bill rights. In addition, the Ninth Amendment states that the “enumeration of certain rights” in the Bill of Rights “shall not be construed to deny or disparage other rights retained by the people.” The meaning of the Ninth Amendment is elusive, but some persons (including Justice Goldberg in his Griswold concurrence) have interpreted the Ninth Amendment as justification for broadly reading the Bill of Rights to protect privacy in ways not specifically provided in the first eight amendments.
More of the logic used by Justice Goldberg to justify his decision in Griswold:
In presenting the proposed Amendment, Madison said:
“It has been objected also against a bill of rights, that, by enumerating particular exceptions to the grant of power, it would disparage those rights which were not placed in that enumeration; and it might follow by implication, that those rights which were not singled out, were intended to be assigned into the hands of the General Government, and were consequently insecure. This is one of the most plausible arguments I have ever heard urged against the admission of a bill of rights into this system; but, I conceive, that it may
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:40amTop Romney Flip Flops: #1. Abortion:
Report Post »In October 2002, campaigning for governorship of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney said he would “preserve and protect” a woman’s right to choose. He now describes himself as opposing abortion.
Thomas Parker
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:05amAnd, what about equal justice under the law? What rights do men have? None. Woman has an abortion and man wants child? Tough. Woman wants to keep child and man doesn’t want anything to do with it? Tough. Thanks for playing…
Report Post »timel0rd
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:51amI hate to say this, but the idea of extending to the unborn full protection under the law has the potential for many unintended consequences. For example if a woman does have an abortion, there is the potential she could be charged with murder. Many people would not object to that. If the unborn are extended human rights, could a mother who has a miscarriage be charged with manslaughter. What if a doctor could show the miscarriage was caused by the mothers actions, such as too much physical activity, medication, drug abuse, smoking, failing to follow doctors advice. Child neglect or child abuse if a child is born with preventable birth defects. There are many potential unforseen consequences of such a move that need to be addressed before taking such a huge step.
I would like to see abortion banned, but simply banning the procedure and extending full protection under the law and full human rights to the unborn are completely different things.
Report Post »wboehmer
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:46amUnintended conseqences???
How about the notion that there’s right & there’s wrong. I’m still waiting to hear an convincing argument of how abortion is right.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 11:28amUnintended consquences =legal pitfalls.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:27pm“Unintended conseqences”
No, this is nothing more than a group of black robed facists dicating what rights women are allowed to have. This is nothing more than dark ages politicla thought, a women’s worth being viewed in the ability of her to bare children. The Amendment violates the US Constitution and on its face unenforcable. It outlaws not only abortions, but birth control. It does nothing more than impose the the religious views of one group on all.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:38pm@Encinom
Thanks, you just answered my question.
It‘s when a democrat opens it’s mouth.
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 4:54pmSo Encinom the “rights” of the woman outweigh the rights of the unborn child? You‘re saying that child doesn’t have a right to exist when our society prides itself on the fact that we have the right to life? But it‘s only a right if you’re existing outside the womb, it can’t be before that though right?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 5:02pmThe woman has a greater right to the control of her body and to the medical treatment she receives, whether its birth control (which would also be outlawed) or abortions.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:26amI am pro-choice, but I also value responsibility. A woman has the right to choose whether or not to engage in sexual activity and whether or not to use birth control. Once she has proven incapable of making the right choice in both of those questions she negates her right to terminate the life she helped to create. Is it possible that questions regarding rape/incest victims or maternal health and safety should be considered? Yes, and for those reasons, the extreme exceptions, abortion should be an option, otherwise we are applying the wrong solution to the problem, as is typical for the liberal mind set.
We concern ourselves with the wrong issues, it must always be about the children and their potential for greatness.
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:13amSo again Encinom, a child has no rights inside the womb, only until it’s outside does it then be considered a human being? And as one person stated, why is it considered two murders if a pregnant woman gets killed yet it’s not murder and perfectly legal if the woman decides to abort the child?
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:50amIts about time that some one stands up to BIG BROTHER and go’s with GOD!!!!!!!
Report Post »SouthSideLib
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:00pmYou realize that banning abortion is government involvement in personal life right. It’s idiotic to call government big brother for not poking its nose into private decisions.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:32amYou do realize that we are talking about human beings choosing to terminate the life of other human beings. At the very least the Government should be involved in the “private” life of the citizens engaged in such overtly willful, and violent behavior.
Report Post »FreedomOne
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:45amhttp: //www. 180movie. com
Report Post »hugecatfish
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:45amAs someone who tries to stay aware politically, and a Mississippian, I’ve heard all of the scare tactics concerning this issue. The most insane is that a woman can be criminally charged if she has a miscarriage. Why mention that? Because, the language used by the ones opposed to this is the same language used by the liberal left in other issues. It is scare tactics, lies and rumors with the same language and delivery that you’ll see in the occupy protests, CNN, MSNBC, or with Reid and Pelosi. In other words, why would you believe anything they say.
I suspect this will pass. Then I suspect the administration, Holder and his ilk will fill a lawsuit like they’ve done with the immigration laws.
Report Post »ROMANS 10-9
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:52amPray!
Report Post »eric6161
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:45amThe best anti-abortion law would be to NOT give welfare benefits to mothers with kids unless they’re married, living together, and the family needs some temporary relief. LBJ, the racist, did his best to destroy the American family by giving benefits to those who were unmarried… thus rewarding people for having sex just so they could get benefits. The result is… many more people in prison that is necessary because there is no father heading the family.
Report Post »Harryc123
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:43amI would be interested to see statistically how many pregnancies happen due to rape or incest. whenever banning abortion comes up thats the first thing the liberals say. “Why should a rape victim carry out a pregnancy?” I would like to see exactly how man woman are raped and require an abortion.
Report Post »ROMANS 10-9
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:45amLess than 2% world wide.
Report Post »hugecatfish
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:12amAnd on that note, why give the baby the death penalty. The man that committed the rape should be the one to receive that. The rapist gets to go to jail (not long enough), and the baby gets sentenced to death. Hmmmm.
Report Post »Joshua7
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 11:13amI agree. I don’t mean to sound like jerk but being raped does not entitle you kill another human being. The question can boiled down to this: A woman who has been raped must carry and give birth to a child that she hates or an innocent child must be killed. Which is the lesser injustice?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:31pmSo, the women has no choice in the matter, the government is to force her to carry the child of her rapist to term, her choice removed the moment the rapist committed his act. You want dictatorships were citizens are forced to obey out dated morality codes to appease your sky deity.
Report Post »Chutz
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 4:48pmNo Encinom, we like the fact that a woman can murder a child, far be it for us to claim murder to be wrong and a violation of a woman’s rights. /end sarcasm
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:11am@ENCINOM So, the innocent child has no choice in the matter, the government is to allow the women to end the life of the child that ALSO bears her blood and genes. The only person who had a choice here was the rapist. The victim and the child are innocent. There is only one person responsible for the crime and only one person deserving punishment. Why should two get punished for the act of one? The rapist made the wrong choice and must bear the consequence, capital punishment. If you forcefully and violently bring a life into this world violating all rights a Women has (dignity, humility, liberty, happiness, innocense) you deserve neither Life nor Liberty. I cherish the Rights and noble postition of Women too much to let a rapist spend his life being taken care of by our tax dollars or be out in 15 years and have the opportunity of doing the same heinous act to another innocent Women. Justice and morality must rule the day. Evil doers must be handed exact judgement. Enough with this liberal sensitive kumbayah lets hold hands with criminals and evil doers nonsense. A rapist violates almost every imaginable virtue and right of a women and commits one of the wosrt and most despicable acts known to mankind and should not be treated kindly or have his action weighed lightly. I do not sympathize with or hold compassion for any rapist.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:44amRaped? There is the morning after pill.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:22amVechorik
Report Post »Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:44am
Raped? There is the morning after pill.
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This amendment would out law the Morning After Pill.
SpankDaMonkey
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:42am.
At some point you will have to stand in front of the Man and his Book of Life……..
So all this nashing of teeth here on earth really means nothing…….
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:31pmFortunately, the Man gets what the wicked enemies of liberty do not – the defining characteristic of a human soul is the possession of free will. Therefore, a thing that does not yet have fee will is not yet a human.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:24am@Chet Hempstead Are mentally challenged individuals human? Are persons in a coma human? Are persons asleep human? Is a paralyzed man human? All these are stages and actions humans may be in. That “blob” in there is not brocolli. Its a human in a very early stage of development. The greatest creation on God’s green earth is the human. To stop the current existence and continuing development of a human, even in the smallest state and earliest stage, is an atrocity and evil act against the most precious and sacred progress and advancement in the human race. The multiplication and fruitful nature of Mankind is its strongest trait. Giving life and liberty to a new creation originally made in the image of God should be cherished and protected at all costs. Is a baby or young child 1/3 human because he may not YET fully express his incommunicable will or because he may not YET completely exert his full potential and strentgh? Are we to judge who a human is based on his powers and attitude? Is not a human a creature that bares our blood and concieved in the womb of our very own species? A person who is hurt and very close to death, who can barely utter a word or move a finger, is yet considered a human and warrant of protection and aid for the hope that he may continue to live and exist. Should we not than take even more care of a child in the womb who is yearning to freely see, cry and wonder and who can move its body and receive nourishment?
Report Post »raderby
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:40amNOT A RELIGIOUS BELIEF you ignorant jerk! Common decency, and sanctity of life is what it is all about. LOOK AT a 3 month old fetus for a few minutes via sonogram. If you cannot be swayed by that, then your liberial mind is as rotten as I have come to suspect it is.
Report Post »ONE MORE TIME: No religion involved. IF aborting is OK, why don’t we kill grown up children, adults, gray-hairs in over populated areas then? Life is cheap, right? Oh yeah, they do that is some parts of the world – want that here? It will be next. LIFE is of value. Death is easy – life is difficult. Choose life.
Tankertony
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:38amThe godless leftists look at humanity as pieces of meat, dangerous pieces of meat.
Report Post »The godly understand humanity’s divine nature.
NOBAMA201258
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:46amThe obamanation that sits in the white house has ensured the planned parenthood killing for profit will go on with sotormayor on the bench,the muslim dog even wants partial birth abortions!
Report Post »mama mama mad at obama
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:37amNot in conflict with the U.S. Constitution. In conflict with the SCOTUS’s creation of an implied right to privacy which is not mentioned in the constitution.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:48amFor the record, I’m against abortion 100% and I believe that a person’s right to choose is when and if they choose to have sex. They have no more right to decide the fate of any child created from that act than they have the right to change the stars in heaven.
BUT, your assumption that the Constitution does not convey a right to privacy is flat wrong. I submit for review the fourth amendment in its entirety.
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
The person has a right to privacy from the eyes of government. Notice that any warrant can only come from the testimony of a person who swears under oath that said person has done something illegal and the sworn person saw it with their own eyes. Also realize that a person has property rights and that only those that they want inside their home have the ability to access it. This is the right of privacy that people have. They choose who comes into their home and who they trust with their business.
Also note that most laws on the books today are unconstitutional and violate these two fundamental human rights to property and liberty.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:21am@SgtB That was just awesome. Pure and simple truth. We need more Patriots like yourself to be silent no more and to stand for our American heritage. Private property, individual liberty and personal privacy. Our long established principles and values made this Nation great and an envy to all the World. Any threat or attack towrds these same American concepts will only lead to our ruin and destruction. May we keep fighting and stay alert.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:41amAnd when you seek out a physician to terminate the human life growing inside of you, you are exposed to public scrutiny regarding your intended crime against the unborn and therefore waive your right to privacy. The only privacy you get you must preserve, namely be not engaging in behavior that leads to a pregnancy.
Report Post »raderby
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:33amDid someone force you to have sex, Or, unprotected sex? Did someone force you to be articially fertilized? NO – that was your choice. You show no responsibility, and you kill a human? AND, the biggie – it is a LIFE you are ending via abortion. Do you not understand that?
Report Post »rufio101
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:28pmHere is what I want answered as a progressive liberal…
Report Post »can you give me an argument, against abortion, that has nothing to do with a fetus being a human?
if you do I will provide answers to any questions you have of me as a liberal progressive.
and try to remain civil, the discussion works much better when it is civil
of course if you just want to yell at me that’s fine too
encinom
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:04pma clump of cells is not a human, and the government has no right to control over a women’s body. I thought the Tea Party was all about shrinking government and getting it out of our personal lives.
Report Post »Nanner-SW
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:22pmCan you give me an argument, against slavery, that has nothing to do with an African being a human. I can easily imagine this being said a couple centuries ago, but at the base of it was if the life was more human or more akin to cattle. Now the base of the arguement presented today is if the life is more human or more akin to a chicken egg. Perception is a very difficult thing to change. I wish I was smart enough to give alternative arguements but even so it would not touch the base of the conflict. I’m sorry, thanks for making me think though, I’ll work on it.
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 5:02pmEncinom, but according to evolution, excuse me “abiogenesis” isn’t that how life supposedly started out? A clump of cells? So you’re still killing life whichever view you adhere to.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:09amYou see how liberals and progressives work? They demand an answer on their terms. We give in to their terms and by defacto we accept their perspective and must continue debating on their notions. If we ask a question on our terms we Conservatives are labeled bigots, racists, prejudice and idiots. They assent to discussing issues once they have created the condition wherein we have accepted their premise of the situation. They cannot out of fear and risk of being accountable to their words and actions debate on the possible precipices of being wrong on an issue. Wherefore they deny and ignore all other view points while hypocritically asking for others to keep an open mind and to be tolerant and accomodating to other views and beliefs. They continue by asserting that all manner of talk will be respectful and considerate of the other person’s feelings and right to expression while implying that the other side is hateful, intolerant and violent.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:43amScarebear – Excellent point.
Report Post »jesse0704
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:32amI think they do have it right, and are BLAZEing the trail. My question to other readers….It is impossible for the egg to fertilize withen 24hrs, that is a scientific fact, so I am at odds with the morning after pill, I look at it as a BC. Of those of you who disagree with it, not on a responsability level, but a moral level, please let me know. I am very pro-life, but findmyself disagreeing with most of my community on this issue. Where am I wrong? If it is not fertilized, then it is not life, if it is not life, then it is not murder. I think practice will also will lead to banning of abortions down the road. The pro choice crowd has no more arguements for abortion.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:50amAn egg CAN be fertilized within 24 hours, it just doesn’t implant immediately.
Report Post »towns
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:28amabortion should be a capitol offense on the same level as man-slaughter! if the baby isn’t alive then why do you have to go in and get an operation to kill it! I would hate to stand before God guilty of abortion and only be able to say “I thought it was just a egg” believe me, God won’t buy it
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:24amAbortion is the greatest sin of America. I hope this spreads to other states. If you don’t want to get pregnant, then think before having sex. America will pay dearly if we continue to destroy life for the convenience of the mother. Young people are seeing casual sex on TV as if there is nothing sacred about sex. It has been an indoctrination of young people. We need to clean up TV and go back to morals and responsibility. Does that seem like an absurb idea in today’s world? Pregnancy rarely ever endangers the life of a woman. Rape, horrible, but there is always adoption and those individuals should always have the support of family or someone who cares. They change what children eat in schools now for the health of the child. Let’s change this for the mental health of women and the health of our country. Abortion leaves scars on a woman that never really go away.
Report Post »ROMANS 10-9
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:41am98% of all abortions
are Parents convience,
Less then 2% of
ALL abortions are
so called
mothers health, rape or incest.
Abortion supported biggest arguement is in fact the smallest percentage.
98% DIE because the liberals refuse to inform the public of the true statistics.
Liberals lie and do whatever it takes to further their agenda, in this case the death
of unborn infant lives.
Stand firm on the facts and call them out!
PS.
OBAMA signed
the health care bill
that places abortions
in the catagory of health care!
T. Norwood
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ADNIL
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:19pmAbortion is HEALTH CARE?!? What twisted freak thinks this? Oh yeah… I remember now. Abortion is DEATH, worse, MURDER of innocents!!! If this is health care, beware, so will be euthanasia. And who do you think will be making the decisions? Those who decide who is or isn’t useful to the state.
Report Post »Tickdog
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:21amyawn…..
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:35amTick
If the murder of innocent babies in the womb bores you, then go to another post.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:19amThe state isn‘t making anyone have a baby they don’t want. Fact is there are dozens of contraception and birth control options avaible to all American. What the state is doing is denying irresponsible people from murdering innocent children. If you don’t want a child tie your tubes,use condoms,take birth control hell do all of the above it’s a small price to pay as opposed to murdering an unborn child.
Report Post »ROMANS 10-9
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:21amAMEN Brother!
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:32amIf people would just stop rutting around like animals in heat and would just keep their legs closed or keep it in their pants then there would be no perceived “need” to slaughter a baby. No nookie, no potential for an unplanned pregnancy. Problem solved.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 10:14amBiohazard,
Report Post »To deny sex is to deny the primal urges of man. To deny one’s self so to speak. I love sex its great and I am not an abstinence kind of guy. I am however smarter than an animal so I used contraception if my girl friend wasn’t on the pill or patch. I never played for keeps until I was ready to be a father and settle down. That‘s one of the things that seperates man form beast the ability to control when we’re ready for offspring.
demint.disciple
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:17am“I just think it‘s a travesty in America that the government could make me bear a child that I don’t want to have .. Then why in the hell did you lay down and get pregnant ?
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:31amyeah we continue to murder millions just so the few women who have or will be in ms. hemmins situation aren’t made to suffer any further! how about adoption? I wonder if these women have considered their own mothers’ CHOICE!!!
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:34amNobama, she didn’t get pregnant from the rape. She’s still fighting tooth and nail, though, for her “right” to have her unborn baby ripped apart inside her womb if she chooses to not be “inconvenienced” by the “burden” of a baby. Apparently these folks have never heard of a little thing called ADOPTION.
Report Post »TBTNK9
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 10:05amSeems like the Left has a problem with personal responsibility in general, and consequences in particular. It is an basic inabiltiy to make logical decisions based on the big picture, regardless of the topic, basing their opinions/actions only on what feels good to them at that moment in time.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 11:35amHave you ever heard of birth control failing?Both married and unmarried women use it.Its not 100%effective.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:24pmobjectivetruth
Abstinence is 100% effective birth control. If you don’t want to take the chance of an unwanted pregnancy, don’t have sex. It’s called being a responsible individual, something liberals know nothing about for some reason.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:58pmBlackhawk1
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:24pm
objectivetruth
Abstinence is 100% effective birth control.
Report Post »____________________________________
Actually, you as a christian know that is false, your whole belief system is centered around the one time abstinence was not an effective form of birth control. Unless you are prepared to argue that Mary wasn’t a virgin.
Git-R-Done
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:31amEnicom, it isn’t false. It‘s your left wing Marxist ideology that’s false.
Report Post »ROMANS 10-9
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:17amLess than 2%
of all abortions
are related to Rape,
Incest or Mothers health!
Verify the facts
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NOBAMA201258
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:23amAmen just another lie by planned parenthood to keep their lucrative abortion clinics open and raking in the money! They have more blood on their hands than hitler!
Report Post »rfycom
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:16amThis subject is between the mother (hopefully the father) and God, if there is one. It is none of my business.
Report Post »ROMANS 10-9
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:24amIf you lead others
to believe that
abortion is rightous,
then the blood of the victoms
is on you as well.
It is your business to save the lives.
Report Post »Luke warm is no position to take!
staggerlee32
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:24amNone of your business unless you pay taxes that go to Planned Parenthood.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:14amCould “deter Mississippi physicians from performing in vitro fertilization because they‘d fear criminal charges if an embryo doesn’t survive.”? Come on, that is a pretty weak argument. Right to life should be up to each individual state.
Report Post »Nanner-SW
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:05pmI like to try an simplify things with analogies. A woman is standing on the side of a road. In the middle of the road is a life. Regarding the extremes of issue, half the people around the woman perceive the life as a little innocent baby and the other half perceive the life more akin to a chicken egg. A big truck is headed her way and is on course to run the life over. She is the only one close enough to save the life. If she is close enough that she can recue the life without difficulty and chooses not to half of those around her will perceive her as a murderer, “you just stood there and let a little baby die”. If it is a danger and she may not make it to the other side with both of them safe, half of the people will regard her as insane, “its just a chicken egg, you can get another one.” The woman might perceive the life as someone who has hurt her in the past (rape) and hesitate. But I understand that it is more complicated than that. “Well you didn’t say I had to take care of it.” “Well its your fault its in the middle of the road in the first place.” Since these two groups will never see eye to eye and continue to yell, curse, and desire to maim each other I believe they should just live in separate states.
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:10amwhats Mind-boggling is the response from the left who are in favor of killing babies, yet vehemntly opposed to the death penalty, as applied to people who have killed, mamed and mutilated other human beings… go figure..
Report Post »SShink
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:19amYes! It’s the same emotional throwing-out of logic that allows them to support building a mosque at Ground Zero.
Report Post »Liberalism is truly a mental disorder
biohazard23
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:23amI’ve pointed that out to several looney lefties and they JUST DON”T GET IT!! To them, it’s perfectly OK, in fact, it’s a RIGHT, to dismember an unborn baby, to puncture its skull with scissors, or to violently extract it from the womb only to throw it into a trash can, but DON’T EVEN THINK about administering a lethal injection to a convicted murder, rapist, or terrorist. They don’t have a problem with using abortion as birth control. The DO have a problem with personal responsibility and accountability. Their version of logic defies all rational thought. Now, just watch the usual suspects like 3rd Archer-whatever and a few others rear their ugly heads to oppose this measure that clearly respects the rights of unborn innocent children.
Report Post »MEDICINE TO THE DEAD
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 10:41amHell, forget about the death penalty, libs think it‘s inhumane to put a rag over a terrorist’s face and pour water on him to extract information that will save American lives. But an innocent unborn baby, oh no worries, crush it’s skull and suck it out with a vacuum. Pack light libs, pack light.
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:09amHmmmm. Mississippi seems to have it right. :)
Report Post »Libby Tarian
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:08amGood for Mississippi! Life begins when a sperm and egg unite. That is the only way you get a baby.
Report Post »webster1234
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:57amI was adopted and I thank God every day that my birth mother chose ADOPTION OVER ABORTION. I have never met my birth mother and have no desire to, but if I ever did, the first thing I would say to her was THANK YOU!!!!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:15amThanks Webster for sharing this story with us. It raffirms my belief that there is life inside that womb, and that it is a child and not a “blob”. It’s a child worth protecting and saving. May God continue to bless you.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:50amOur culture must evolve to not only accept adoption as the best option for an unwanted pregnancy, but to actively encourage and celebrate it. Congratulations Webster on having a birth-mother smart enough to know she was not your best option for a family.
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