Protester Dressed as Clown Imitates Shooting Police With Umbrella Prop Gun at Occupy Seattle
- Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:25am by
Christopher Santarelli
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As details emerge from the horrific shooting in Aurora, Colorado, the nation grieves and remains on edge towards sensitive topics relating to the crime. Knowing that the main Aurora-shooting suspect James Holmes allegedly behaved and disguised himself like “The Joker” clown villain from “The Dark Knight,” troubling new video has emerged of an apparent protester at Occupy Seattle dressed in clown garb pointing an umbrella at police and bystanders, and “shooting” them as if the umbrella were a gun.
Gateway Pundit, where the video is posted, reports that video was filmed Friday at the “Bring the Fight to the Banks” rally and march. In the video the clown is seen hurling the usually Occupy Wall Street “one percent” accusations at police and pedestrians, before aiming the umbrella at those he taunts while yelling “ba-bam, ba-bam!” When one police officier who the clown taunts appears to be getting unhinged by the shooting imitation, the clown brags to protesters “I’m getting to him. I really am.“ At one point a Seattle woman who was heckled by the clown while running to catch a bus yells back ”get a job.” While continually taunting and cursing at the police with fellow protesters, the clown refers to Seattle Police Chief John Diaz “Chief Dumbass.”

The fake shooter is seen with one other protester dressed in clown attire, and the pair may be part of Seattle’s faction of the Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army, which The Seattle Weekly released an extensive report on last Monday:
“Though relatively small in numbers – roughly eight or nine clowns total, according to members of the group – the players that make up Seattle’s element of the Clandestine Rebel Clown Army have nonetheless put their stamp on a number of important events over the last few months. Debuting at this year’s May Day protests, the Salish CIRCA seeks to put a new, red-nosed face on radicalism, and inspire thought in the tradition of the Theatre of the Oppressed – a method of using theatrical techniques as a means for promoting social and political change championed by Brazilian theatre practitioner Augusto Boal in the 1960s.”
The Seattle clowns that spoke with The Weekly say they were inspired by similar Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army movements across the world that began in the UK, but operate as autonomous groups.
“We felt there was an opportunity to bring humor to protest, and inspire people to think,” one Seattle CIRCA leader told The Weekly in a conference call. “Society is ripe for parody here in Seattle.”

The Seattle Clowns have reportedly been to a number of events in the area such as protests to the police use of pepper spray during Seattle Pride events, marijuana legalization marches, MayDay Seattle, and multiple appearances outside the Woodland Park Zoo to draw attention to what the group considers the inhumane way in which the elephants are kept.
If the protesting clown in the video below is part of the CIRCA movement, he likely is not bringing humor to Seattle police and pedestrians, and likely only inspiring thoughts on the terrible events in Colorado early Friday morning:



















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Stiggs
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:31amHad this problematic group been nipped in the bud on Wall Street, I suspect America wouldn’t be dealing with this crap today. But, noooo…those in office permitted them to have their say despite the violence and crimes perpetrated by their membership.
THIS IS THE OBAMA CROWD AS CLAIMED FOR THE DEMOCRATS BY QUEEN PELOSI.
REMEMBER THIS IN NOVEMBER WHEN YOU VOTE.
…just MHO.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:03amTotally agree. The mask is off the Guy Fawkes / Far Left Obama people . Will hard to distance themselves from these anarchists. How will Obama throw them under the bus like he usually does when an association proves harmful ?
Report Post »rockhead
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:20amI don’t know, maybe they should be encouraged to continue. As long as they get lots and lots of news coverage. Occupiers provide the exclamation point on what’s wrong with the left, and probably inspire more people to vote against the Dhimms.
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:59amthese are Obama’s people he endorsed them. Peelosi et al also endorsed them.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:12pmPlease provide evidence that Obama endorsed them. And, Glenn Beck‘s psychotic rants don’t count as “evidence”
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:27pmROCKHEAD…while I totally agree with you in theory (let them make a fool of themselves and help motivate normal folks to throw the bums in Washington out), think about what these people are starting to do…IF (and we have NO proof positive evidence for this, I’m just speculating) the Dark Knight shooter was black bloc affiliated, then you have to look at this and realize something. They may very well start doing more and more “simulated violence” towards the police until one of two things happen…
1) An officer mistakes it for a real threat (this same umbrella story could’ve easily turned into this clown…pun intended…getting shot dead if it had been 11 PM or something) and kills an “unarmed” occupier
2) The cops get so used to seeing these fake displays that they are slow to react when the real stuff goes down.
IDK, but I know we have a storm brewing
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:34pmQUAR…
http://azconservative.org/2011/10/08/president-praises-occupy-wall-street-protest/
look like an endorsement to me…would you like other quotes and videos? or is one enough?
Report Post »ambrosia
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:36pmOh yeah,
if Obama had a second son, this jerk would definitely qualify.
Wow…
red nose, face paint & a Mary Poppins umbrella-
another loose nut that can’t separate fantasy from reality.
He‘s probably some lame wannabe’ actor, auditioning for the next Scorsese film.
Big Mouth, Big Moron…like the smart lady said, “GET a JOB”…Loser !
These dopes are Obama’s dopes……we know what to do, America, don’t we ?
Report Post »TexasIndependant
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:39pmBlack Bloc Owls Protestors. How bout we call them what they are. Totalitarianists! Someone needs to make a video with the Lefties supporting these people. Politicians, Actors, and Community leaders. Show everyone that supported this and then show the shooting scenes from colorado! AMERICA NEEDS THE TRUTH
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:51pmAnyone who supports this kind of stuff is evil….
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:58pmNo that isn’t proof. He didn’t endorse Occupy, he dismissed them. It was an attempt to draw Occupy into supporting him rather than continuing as an independent movement. Nowhere did he support their ideas. He simply said he admires the commitment they have and says they’d be better off supporting him (Obama). I can find quotes of him saying complimentary things about the Tea Party also, does that imply Obama endorses the Tea Party? Is the Tea Party a bunch of Obama pawns?
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:10pmI think this guy needs a talking to! One that would require a trip to the precinct! What a jerk!
Report Post »Talent-Keyhole
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:38pmAnarchist groups such as the OWS have always been around in history. Remember Abby Hoffman’s “Steal This Book” as a guide to “Monkey War” – a “funny” Guerrilla War … putting glue into parking meters, etc. The anti-Vietnam War protest years were full of these folks, all part and parcel of the Weathermen, the Yippies, etc. Look back farther in time and we have the Wobblies, IWW Agitators, the Luddites and the true Anarchists who were the original Bomb-Throwers. “Les Saboteurs” of the early machine age could even be included, considering their wood shoes in the gears of production. So why are we surprised, outraged, about this sort of thing happening today? These people upset the normal decorum of society — which is their ultimate goal. Once their behavior becomes such that government is at a standstill and everyone is in the streets howling at the moon, their prayers will be fulfilled. Now, as Lenin said one time in a speech: “What is to be done?” The decision to act continues to be in the hands of the American Citizen. When We The People have had enough,, well, we will have had enough and the culprits will be found and their day of the rope will begin. Until that time they are only of interest to the publicity hounds and the news media.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:50pm.
Report Post »Dressing up in a costume and pretending to shoot someone is a good way to get you a** shot off.
usedCZARsalesman
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:53pm@QUAR…
you people are funny…so, he says they are a positive force and he understands their frustration and that “his administration is BEHIND THEM” (emphasis mine), and his policies towards corp regulation are in line with many of theirs, but he doesn’t endorse them…ok, live in whatever world you want to
Report Post »RevDev
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:04pmThreatening behavior like this should not be tolerated in a civil society. Straight-up taz the SOB and verify that he is not concealing a projectile weapon of some sort as an umbrella. While he is ROTF-PHP check him for ID and run a background on him. If he has no ID put him in a cell until he comes up with ID. When we know he is not an illegal or a foreign-national agitator he can be released back into the civil society to behave civilly. No harm done and life lesson learned. It’s a “Win-Win”. Since his Mamma and Dadda did not train him appropriately he may need a little tuff-luv’n. These officers and their superiors are either nutless wonders or they are TOOLS OF THE SYSTEM. After watching this I am siding with the Occu-Pawn.
Report Post »Baerlin
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:44pm@ Quar – Please provide evidence where the president has endorsed the Tea Party. I do remember quite vividly be ridiculed and called quite derogatory names but endorsment?
Report Post »Unix
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 7:06pm@ QUARANDO
Obama On the Occupy movement:
As the “Occupy Wall Street” protest entered its fourth week it received a ringing endorsement from President Obama who contrasted the protesters’ “sincerity” and “selflessness” with the “hypocrisy” and “self-serving greed” exhibited by the so-called “Tea Party.”
“The Wall Street protesters have put their whole selves into the fight for social justice,” Obama declared. “They’re not just showing up when it can be conveniently scheduled between working hours and tending to the kids like the right-wing opponents of my policies. They’re here day and night, rain or shine. Their dedication is a model of what it will take to transform America.”
“As admirable as their tactics have been, let’s not overlook their refreshingly innovative ideas,” Obama urged. “A lot of them parallel what we’ve been trying to do with our stimulus program. Their call for a trillion dollars in additional infrastructure spending and another trillion in ‘green’ spending confirm that I’m on the right track.”
B H Obama
I‘d say you’ve been schooled, now back to Huff N Puff Compost for you and your ilk! You leftist trolls haven’t got a clue, nor any argument, so take your “social justice” and stuff it in your pipe of utopia of dreams! You’ve never read a real history book in your life…just look up how many MILLIONS were murdered by Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc under the guise of “so
Report Post »Incredulous321
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 7:14pm“Q”…Let‘s say I agree with your assessment that the D’s and R’s are two branches of the same tree and that the capitalism they support is an insidious form of governmental and political class control. What would you propose to do about it? Do you think running around in a clown mask with an umbrella is having some sort of impact? Do you think an overthrow of the government and an installation of some sort of socialist/communist commune is the answer? It was tried by Jim Jones. It didn’t work out too well. Here’s the deal. We need reforms in many areas. I believe many of the “too big to fail” corporations should be broken up. I don’t believe redistribution of wealth is American, and it won’t work. We need to deal with one big problem at a time. Take your pick…debt, deficit, housing, unemployment, the devalation of the dollar. At this point in history our individual option is to choose the best way forward and vote for like minded people at all levels. Unless you are prepared to set off a nuke in D.C. Are you? As far as GB is concerned, calling people names for becoming informed is ignorant even if you don’t agree with the point of view. G.B. is feeding the homeless, providing employment, talking about honor and courage and love. Somehow you place the clown in higher esteem. That’s why you are recieving distain here despite some interesting points.
Report Post »midwesthippie
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 7:17pm…what’s funnier, the clown or the “cops” on bicycles?…the public needs to wake up and realize that the police (collectively) are not on our side. the FRATERNAL order of police and their unions are against gun ownership and carry permits. fraternity means that is “their brotherhood”…not yours. p.s. to send “police” to patrol on bikes is not very encouraging in terms of public safety…
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 8:08pm@Incredulous321
I do not hold the clown in high esteem. I actually think it is a sickening tactic. There has been plenty of sickening stuff in the Tea Party protests as well, Obama with a Hitler mustache and so on. The double standard of people here is just too much. This site finds the most outlandish Occupy person they can and throws him up on the front page and people eat it up. But the next article they whine about how the “media” is unfair to the Tea Party. Then we hear all this insanity about how Occupy is a bunch of Obama plants and so on… Just the level of hatred and ignorance against people they don’t know, many of whom are out there and, often quite courageously, trying to push back against the deep rooted corruption that exists both within the government and the corporate system. The Occupy people where I lived took in the homeless overflow from the shelters and gave them food and clothing. They fought for working people who were having their houses foreclosed on. They aren’t taking their marching orders from a cable TV personality or former VP candidate, they make decisions themselves through a totally transparent and inclusive democratic process.
And most of what I hear from Glenn Beck is not “love” and “feeding the homeless”, here is a guy that gets rich by demonizing the weakest and most defenseless among us. He routinely rants against the poor, immigrants, non-christians anybody he decides is “liberal”. The last thing GB is about is love.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:36pm@Q – come, come now my good fellow, you are defending the likes of people who crap on the sidewalk, throw bottles at police, smash windows of hard working Americans and call for an end to Capitalism for the likes of Communism. You are a socialist shill, hiding behind your progressive roots and want redistribution of wealth. We here, know the Manifesto of Marx…From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. You have no idea the fundamental flaws with that ideology, it is a failure, everywhere it has been tried. Hard work, and education (which anyone can get in America K-12 free) and taking risk make for a successful society. The American individualism made this country great, not some big govt like you think! Govt merely puts out bids for public roads, schools and hospitals for PRIVATE companies to build, paid for by our TAX dollars. There are many private hospitals and schools that the govt has NOTHING to do with either! You people on the left can’t see past the warts on your noses, because you have been brainwashed by the communists in the halls of education, who have NEVER had a real job in their lives, and speak the tripe read from some book! Get educated and join the real world for a change!
Report Post »christopher.duncan2388
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:46pmQUARANDO
Please provide proof of any sickening tactics that have been used and accepted by the tea party that come anywhere close to the level that ows is operating on
Actually, never mind, it doesn’t exist
Report Post »Incredulous321
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:31pm“Q” Unlike many here I don’t think all OWS are Obama plants. I understand the disaffection going on. But you failed to answer my question. Ultimately there’s two choices. Destroy America, or work within the system to make it better. It will be a long process because things are very screwed up, and might still lead to our destruction. But, I’m not prepared to give up on the best system ever devised by man, nor am I so disillusioned that I think Americans can’t solve our problems. I know the answer lies in freedom, not more government and not more powerful multi-national corporations that have no alligance to the United States or it’s people. I said I’m not for reditribution of wealth, but I am for redistribution of opportunity. Because of government interference and corporate greed the American spirit has been squashed, for anyone but the very rich. Look at the money it takes to run for president, or even mayor. Globalism is also not the answer. We (Americans) can do more good for the world when we are strong and vibrant. Socialism leads to stagnation and the same class problems we have now. The only answer is to unleash the American people, and stiffle the influence of globalist cabals by using the same anti-trust laws we’ve used before to break up the monstrosity corporations and government. More power to the state and local people. Put the power back in our hands. What’s your solution?
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:59pm@QUARANDO
You claim there’s footage of Obama commenting on the Tea Party.
Link please, I can’t wait to see this; couldn’t find it…
Report Post »FlyFishForFreedom
Posted on July 23, 2012 at 12:26amSpot on. Come November, the OWS crowd will learn something about math and the 1%.
Report Post »FlyFishForFreedom
Posted on July 23, 2012 at 12:30amI’ve often wondered, shouldn’t the Hollywood leftwing nuts join the OWS crowd? You know…to protest against the wealthiest 1%.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on July 23, 2012 at 1:28amSince when is it illegal to dress up like a clown and point an umbrella at a cop? No law broken there.
Report Post »caveman74
Posted on July 23, 2012 at 9:56am@jayhading…I agree this guy does need a talking to…the kind that requires the taser barbs be removed at the end…just sayin…
Report Post »apexmoon
Posted on July 23, 2012 at 2:11pm@QUARANDO
Sorry, you lose due to invoking Godwin’s law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
P.S. I’ve seen lots of hitler mustaches on Bush in his day. So there’s that.
Report Post »NikolaTesla
Posted on July 23, 2012 at 2:17pm“The Wall Street protesters have put their whole selves into the fight for social justice,” Obama declared. “They’re not just showing up when it can be conveniently scheduled between working hours and tending to the kids like the right-wing opponents of my policies. They’re here day and night, rain or shine. Their dedication is a model of what it will take to transform America.”
Note working and taking care of children is labeled as a bad thing…. and 2+2 = 5.
Report Post »bb010864
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:27amEvery time I see these OWS people they all look like losers!
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:54amOnce capable minds turned to useless goo by our so called western education system. Correction, indoctrination system.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:01amHuh.. the corporate media make anti-corporate protesters look foolish!? Shocking!
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:01amDressing like clowns seems very appropriate for this group. They are nothing but useless clowns and baffoons. They lady who yelled at them to get a job is spot on. If they worked and knew the value of hard earned money, they wouldn’t be out in the streets doing nothing productive. And yes, indoctrinated fools.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:12amLittle wonder that many of the ancients believed that Jesters then clowns were evil entities.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:31amThey don’t look like losers, they are losers!
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:26pm“Look Like Losers”. That’s very kind of you. I’d have been much more blunt and said that they were losers.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 5:18pmQuaran doh
Report Post »The only credible thing you said is that the d and the r are virtually the same. The rest of your rants are ridiculous.
let us prey
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 5:29pmQuarando
Report Post »Are you going to quarando yourself?
quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 8:41pm@LET US PRAY
Report Post »Sure… my rants are ridiculous, but Glenn Beck is perfectly rational…
let us prey
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:58pmCuarando
Report Post »It’s prey. Not pray. You do understand the points on corruption, but ows? Really? You think Zucotti was a coincidence. I mean Bloomberg,obumbler,Biden etc all have ties to that. Come on, seems as much of a reelection ploy as it is a movement. He championed their cause and ignored the tea party. The want for socialism and the backing of the progressives is laughable. Laughable demands list of wealth Redistribution, debt forgiveness and their organizer Harrison Schultz is a dolt at best. It’s a freak show.
ozchambers
Posted on July 23, 2012 at 11:48amDo their noses make that honking noise when you punch them?
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:23amyes the face of the democrap party
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:02amRight.. Occupy has protested Obama and the Democrats more than they have Republicans… but they are the face of the Democratice party. Keep lapping up the Corporatist propaganda.
If Glenn Beck was telling you the truth, he wouldn’t be on the radio.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:21amQUAR wrote, “Occupy has protested Obama and the Democrats more than they have Republicans”. Please provide your evidence. You will not, since, A) The evidence does not exist and B) Lefties believe that are above having to provide evidence of anything they allege.
Report Post »JackB
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:25amWell, they do not represent conservative ideals, they do not represent American ideals, they do not represent the law abiding, USA loving, hard working patriots and now they are supposedly not liberal democrat shills…. has anyone done the math… are they really more like the 1% or just the children of the 1% coming out of the basement to play?
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:49amTalk about lapping up the propaganda, Quarando is just another useful idiot being manipulated by his marxist and communist handlers. Notice how he/she doesn’t back any of their claims up with facts. Who needs facts when you have ad hominem personal attacks.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:59amOh the irony of being called a “useful idiot” by people on this site. I know several people that lived at Occupy encampments. They have no love for Obama. They protested his speeches on multiple occasions. You can Google it if you care. The media covered it to a limited extent. They felt it was more important to protests him than Republicans for numerous reasons. Firstly, because he is in power and secondly because they wanted it to be clear that they weren’t going to be co-opted by the Democrats in the same way the Tea Party was by Republicans.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:05pmAnd there, just above, direct from QUAR, you have a Lefties version of “proof”,:
Report Post »“I know several people that lived at Occupy encampments”. If only stupidity were physically painful. At least THAT they’d understand.
quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:23pmI see, I know people first hand that have been involved in Occupy, but that isn’t reliable “proof”. You get your news from a Glenn Beck website and you are an expert on Occupy. Have you ever actually been down to talk to the people you hate so much? No, of course not. If you had, you wouldn’t be so childishly ignorant.
What do you want for proof? Do I need to provide a link to a Glenn Beck rant in which he tells you how Occupy routinely protests Obama? Because such a video doesn’t exist. If you want news articles. They can easily be found on Google
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:46pmQUAR, since you like anecdotal “evidence” so much, how about this one: OWS has, as its driving ideology, the hatred of Capitalism. This is the SOLE domain of the Left and Democrats. The end. This debate is over.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:57pmQUAR: The OWS movement was started by ADBUSTERS. They are militant ” anti-capitlism ” international movements. Just like Bill Ayers who said in a video that he gets up each morning hoping to do what he can ” to destroy capitalism.” Bill and Barack are soul mates. Then we have the Barack and Communist Davis connection. The Barack wants to “ redistribute” quote to Joe the Plumber. Then there is the Barack and Communist Van Jones connection. Then all of Barack ” anti – rich/ anti-bankers / anti WALL STREET / anti-CEOs ” rhetoric. Then his quote about OWS that he ” feels their frustration.” Duh…how much more “evidence” do you Obama shills think is necessary ? Obama is a flaming ” anti-capitalist.“ And most ”normal Americans are NOT . NOBama 2012 No Democrats 2012.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:12pmQUARANDO stated… “Have you ever actually been down to talk to the people you hate so much? No, of course not. If you had, you wouldn’t be so childishly ignorant.”
Actually I attempted to talk with one of these fine young protesters in front of what “used to be” a Bank of America main office in St Pete, Florida who were there to “give BA some what for” (the main office moved 2 yrs prior). I was there on business and waiting for an appointment.
I said hello to one gal who was pretty ragged looking (after watching her begging anyone who passed by for a cigarette) who stated they (15 or so “what for givers”) had walked all over St Pete trying to find this place and I explained that BA moved 2 yrs prior. She looked at me and said “well tell us where the ”eff” they are then suit?“ She then quickly changed her demeanor and asked in a more kind fashion for a cigarette”… I said nope, don’t smoke, then she muttered “@sshole.”
Yes, fine young protesters…
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:13pmOf course Occupy is anti-capitalist. I never said they weren’t. I don’t know how that ties them to the Democrats. The Democrats and Obama do Wall Streets bidding. Wall Street was by far the biggest Obama contributor. You are right the case is closed, you lost. Their is no alliance between pro Wall Street Obama and anti Wall Street Occupy.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:27pmQUAR: Obama ‘s Far Left Democrats have OWS written all over them! Nice try to cover for them but it’s way too late. Too many quotes . Too many videos. Hope the Republicans use them to toast our current anti-capitalist Democrats indulging in their War on Capitalism and Banks. They need to be repatriated to Mother Russia ( oops, Mother has turned a tad capitalist these days ) or Father Cuba ! Or maybe North Korea.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:40pmSo the Republicans are pro-capitalism and the Democrats anti-capitalism? Gotcha…
I hate to break it to you, but they both oppose capitalism and support a proto-fascist corporate capitalism. Just look at their policies. They are identical. What have the Democrats done that Republicans haven’t in terms of economic policy? ObamaCare is a Republican healthcare plan… so that is out the door. You have nothing…
A true capitalist opposes corporations anyway. Back in the 19th century (back when real conservatives existed), conservatives argued (correctly) that a corporation was not a natural economic entity and instead was a collectivist entity created by the state that so severely distorted markets that talking about Capitalism was absurd. They called the corporation “western communism” because they lead to a Soviet style command economy rather than a market economy.
Today both Democrats and Republicans worship the corporation at the expense of the middle class. Keep buying into this idea that Republicans are the good guys anDemocrats the bad guys. Both represent the same corporate interests. Rhetoric is irrelevant.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:58pmQUA: Don’t know who is feeding you this garbage ( you sound like one of those Angry At Everybody Let’s Have A Revolution types ) BUT there is a huge difference in the policies of the Far Left Democrats now Occupying the White House and the conservative Republicans. This election boils down to a choice between capitalism and anti-capitalism ( the Left goes by many Smoke and Mirror names the days ! ) . Between Romney and Obama. If you don’t “get this ” you are either a Lefty shill or an independent idiot ! I think I know which label is correct !
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:02pmactually QUAR, most people on this right refer to “conservative” vs “the left”…100% of Dems fall into “the left”s category. There aren’t even a whole lot of Rs that are “conservative”. We don’t use rhetoric here, we use solid logic and facts to form our opinions.
Only ONE political group has “shown support” for OWS…DEMOCRATS! Should I link the hundreds of quotes from communists like Maxine Waters and Debbie blabbermouth Schultz that praise the movement?
What is your ideology? If you actually have multiple friends that were ACTIVELY involved in OWS camps then you are obviously a lose (as are they) but you don’t SEEM to be totally hard left…are you an Alex Jones nutjob? An anarchist? Just trying to get some context to your comments.
Report Post »vox_populi
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 3:50pm@QUARANDO
You know you’re fighting a losing battle, right? The more rational discussion you bring in, the more irrational these lot get. They’ve been spoonfed reality from Glenn Beck just a little too long.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 4:04pmI have no ideology. Simply a commitment to fact and a believe in the inherent worth of every human being. Labeling people with ideologies simply ends intelligent discussion.
There is virtually no difference between between Republicans and Democrats. Stop focusing on what they say and look at what they do. There is a total continuity of economic and foreign policy. The only shift is a marginal one on social issues. Take a look at the top donors to Obama and Romney. There campaigns are funded by the same people, primarily large banks. Obama does a little better with Silicon valley corporations while Romney and Republicans do better with Energy corporations. If Obama is such an anti-capitalist, why has he raised hundreds of millions of dollars from capitalist firms for his reelection? Obama is not far left. His policies are identical to Bush’s. On foreign policy, on the bailouts and the economy, on taxes, on torture, on domestic surveillance. Go down the line, they are the same. The only major shift is in rhetoric.
It doesn’t matter much whether Obama or Romney wins. They are both committed to off shoring jobs, handing our tax dollars over to the banks, gutting our education system, killing medicare and social security. They country is going down the tubes either way.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:21amRemember all of the “actors” in those earlier OWS protest dramas ? Remember the kids with those phony grimaces on their faces ? Remember them taunting the police ? Remember the MIC checks at the various Republican candidates ‘ rallies ? Same Clown Show. Same Theater of the Absurd. Same Hooray For Lefty Hollywood. And, sadly, think our recent “ joker” was inspired by this same crazy lawlessness and disrespect for law and order. These people have some serious anger problems and they are being used by politicians.
Report Post »Uechi
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:16amSure would enjoy pepper spraying that freakazoid punk
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:30amI would think he had a weapon, to bad so sad.
Report Post »Actually I think the police are there to protect them
MODEL82A1
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:42amKIDDING, are seriously going to claim that this fool did not brandish a pointed stick (aka, weapon) at the officer? If so, par for the course for a fool.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on July 23, 2012 at 11:21amMODEL82A1
Report Post »If your post was meant for me you are ignorant as hell and prove it.
The only thing I would be saying to him with no police presence is “That’s got to hurt like hell”
As soon as he points it as a weapon, it is a weapon and I fear for my life end of story
Ted Zeppelin
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:16amSomewhere there must be a couple of psycho-babble liberals on TV driveling on about these clowns and how they’re innocant of any wrong doing, only pretending to be disruptive, destructive and threatening murder while most rational individuals see the “Occupy” rioting as real Democrat National Convention with the Squad-Car-Crapper as the new DNC chair who will upstage Debbie.
Report Post »karen162
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:14amBut who is the media praying every night to Ba’al become violent? The Tea Party. The Occupy people seem to have a lot of mental issues. Has anyone thought to provide some therapy for them?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:49amMan portable electric shock type therapy? Yep, many of the cops are armed with tazers.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:05pmTea Party won’t become violent. They are populated by sheep that come out to celebrate authority and the power of the state. They invite sitting politicians and celebrity know-nothing pundits to speak at their events. They are payed for and organized by the most retrograde billionaires in the country. When the Tea Party has a rally with 1000 people, there are 1000 reporters there to cover the “breaking news”. When Occupy has a May Day rally in NYC with upwards of 20,000 people, the media yawns and claims a few hundred people showed up and provides no photographs or coverage of the event.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:57pmTea Party really isn’t much different than them.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:14pmINDI: You lie. Typical Lefty tactic : tell a lie in the media. Then keep repeating it . Tired of your BS. There is nothing similar between the Tea Party and the denizens who Occupy this anti-capitalist circus of clownish OWS anarchists. Even your Lefty Jason Levin attempts to infiltrate and denigrate the Tea Party did not work ..any more than the anarchists who damaged the Democrat headquarters here in an attempt to blame the Republicans ! You have a core of nasty, under-handed losers on the Left who will only cause you damage . When you lie down with dirty dogs, you wake up with fleas.
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:24pmI see INDI found a buddy on here. Serve up two bricks!!
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:55pmQUAR…
Its just too bad you bought your computer and have your internet provided by the same corporations you hate so much…glad to see how dedicated you are to the cause…I willing to bed you even have an iPhone, lol
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 5:22pmthey both want less goverment, less taxes and less spending. along with less corporate and banker influence of our goverment. there are many ways there are similar and their goals are close as well. eventually so the so called left will team up with the so called right to make things change, which includes to mislabeled groups that have similar ambitions.
Report Post »Constructionist
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:10amClown: The other white meat
Report Post »Goldi
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:09amThe police should remember these are obama’s army. Forget the union, officers, this is about your very existence. They are supported by the people in the white house, and of course nanci pelousi.
Report Post »dadsrootbeer
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:07amObammy’s kind of protestor, “the police acted stupidily”.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:17amYesterday the OWS website had a whole blog of support for the movie theater shooter … claiming him as one of their own .. it was not taken down . it was SCRUBBED .. you didn’t get an error message later in the day .. you got a blank OWS page. These people are sick .. as sick as the MSM who keep trying to blame all the evil, YES I SAID EVIL, in the world to the TEA Party.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:32amThat’s a damning story. I wouldn’t mind reading that
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:58amCATB, When things like that are found we need to start making screen shots to preserve and share what these people are really up to.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:15pmYou won’t be reading it, because it doesn’t exist.
Report Post »gooeylewie
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:39pm@QUARANDO
it did, until they scrubbed it.
But if you google the phrase “Occupy Black Bloc Member James Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co” you will see that at occupywallst [dot] org, they had the post – now scrubbed as it is a blank 404 page.
But if you look at google’s cached image of the site, you can see as it existed. Remember when those Occu-criers tried to blow up that bridge in OH – by the guy who signed the lease for their infestation.
You associate with the problem in America – the pee-party occu-criers.
At least a corporate America understands basic hygiene and isn’t infested with rats, and other vermin. I’ve never heard of “Corprorate lung” – but I have heard of Zoocotti lung.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:09pmThis was a post on a PUBLIC FORUM. Anybody can sign up and post whatever they want claiming to be an Occupy supporter. I could create an account on theblaze.com and post support for the shooter, would that prove that the Tea Party supports him?
The fact that you think this “proves” anything is pretty scary. You will not find on the Occupy page what you claim, support from Occupy organizers for the shooter or claims that he was “one of their own”.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:34pmQUARANDO, I read the site several times yesterday, and know that a number of people here also read it. I locked it into my favorites file, but do wish that I had made a screen shot of it as well. The link from my favorites file will not open in any way. I don’t even get an error message.
Report Post »Again, many of us did read the site earlier.
Copper Catfish
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:18pmhttp://www.examiner.com/article/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-e-holmes-shoots-up-aurora-co-movie-theater
Report Post »vox_populi
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 3:53pmThe OWS forum post was created by Bill Warner, the same guy who’s been saying – without evidence – that Holmes was an Occupier on his website. If I made a post saying “Glenn Beck is a fascist,” you wouldn’t screencap that post and say “My God, look! They’re admitting Glenn Beck is a fascist on his own website! He MUST be a fascist!”
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 5:27pmVox commie
Report Post »Even the ows organizer Harrison Schultz is a clown. What’s your point? A disgraceful violent crowd is worth standing behind? Get a clue.
The0bserver
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 6:26pmQuar: You deceiver, it was not a user post. Here is the URL:
http://www.occupywallstinfo.com/news/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-holmes-shoots-up-aurora-co/
I know, because I saved the page to my PC.
See, the path says ‘/news/’
Report Post »smt
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:06amsuicide by police?
Report Post »Easyrunner
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:03amA quick kick in the groin then head…Chuck Norris style… would go a long ways to stop these clowns from running around thinking they are hot ****.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:02amIs there any doubt that Holmes is one of them?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:13amNo. And is there any doubt as to whose rhetoric has encouraged this anti-capitalism , this disrespect for the law, and this division in America today ?
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:59amI couldn’t agree more.
I wonder how many more murdering rampages we will have to endure
before the dots are connected and leads straight to OWS
and the people promoting this movement….!
These insane people with evil intent are drawn to the OWS movement …
Like flies to cow dung..
They have finally been given purpose to their life that has
been so empty. …
You want to see what happens when we take
God out of a society…
Nature abhors a vacuum..
where God once was.. now evil is present
This movement has been promoting and encouraging violence from their
followers from the beginning.
And now they have just the right kind of useful idiot..
The “criminally-insane -useful-idiot” ..!
Report Post »PRESENTSOFMIND
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:53amThe headline of this piece is wrong. It should say ” a clown, dressed as a protester, dressed as a clown”
Report Post »rlimike
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:12amGood one … I was going to say ► a douch-bag dresses as a clown.
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:42amOr it could say Encinom-a clown dressed as a protester dressed as a clown.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:50am.
Report Post »The video would have been better if they had clubbed that Clown like a baby Harp Seal….
effvar
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:48amLike the joke…..”A baby seal walked into a club….!!!!
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:49amThere basically mimicking how the police act towards a normal person now a days and demonstrating that there tools for tyranny. which in many cases is true especially how they have acted towards peaceful protestors like this.
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:57amI’m convinced that YOU INDI are the infamous “crap on the Police car guy,”
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:58amoh, brother. Put a sock in this Van Jones styled anti-police crap. You and your 1% need to wake up, dude. The vast majority of us support the police, law and order. We view your anarchism and clownish theatrics as 99% pure circus which needs to be shut down. You are the “ tools” that the anti-capitalists, like Bill Ayers and Lefty ” associates, ” are using to foster their rise to power. How sad that you don’t ” get it.” Better watch out. Bus is coming !
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:58amWhat the hell would you know about normal people?
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:58amSo that’s YOU in the clown outfit.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:00amINDI, a police officer’s job includes doing LOTS of things that civilians do not have “the right to mimick”, you fool.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:07am@Individualism:
So in otherwords, when the police at any of the Occupy demonstrations show incredible restraint; give multiple warnings for illegal gatherings to disperse before closing their protests down and even then using restraint when bricks, garbage, molotof cocktails and such lethal items are used upon them as tyranny? Police brutality?
Just what kind of shill are you for the Communists of the world? What kind of agent for Obama and his cronies?
If either of these Occupy memebers had real weaponry, what would you expect the law officers to do; just stand there and die? Even with it being a mockery of the ‘Dark Knight” incident, these two clowns used it to try and provoke an action from the police to claim “police brutality.”
Go back to China or N Korea “Komrad.”
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:09amRICK: Unfortunately, I do not think they teach English grammar rules anymore in American schools. The educational gurus of the Left, like INDI, have trouble with that “ rules” business ! That’s why they hate the police !
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:13amSNOW wrote… “Just what kind of shill are you for the Communists of the world? What kind of agent for Obama and his cronies?”
INDI was a shill for Ron Paul (until even HE… realized Paul was a dead-end) and is now a shill for the Libertarian Party candidate Gary “smokin’ dope be fine with me” Johnson.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:24amTIME: I think he is a shill for the Far Left “ Divide the Dumb Republicans ” Committee …the anarchy / hoodie crowd .
Report Post »Freedombeliever
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:30amYawn, lets move along – nothing to see here – just another ugly troll. “Individualism” says it all in his avatar – “9/11 was an inside job” – Yeah right. And I’ll bet Louis Farakahn is your hero. Sorry, take your communist garbage elsewhere. Most of us here support our cops, our military, capitalism and our constitution. You’re not welcome here.
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:55amBARBER2. I wouldn’t give him that much credit as being an “infil-traitor” from the OWS left posing as either a Ron Paul/Gary Johnson/Libertarian trying to divide us. He is definately… A Ron Paul Paul/Gary Johnson/Libertarian guy who is trying to divide us. Not that he will be successful.
He’s the “lowest common denominator” that this fringe element… the Paul/Jonson/Libertarian dividers attract (like the neo-Nazi’s, anti-Semites, tin foil crowd) to push their ideology (useful idiot).
As long as he votes in their direction… they mostly stay silent and let him continue to be a useful idiot.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:18pmThe comments of the Tea Party people are so revealing, their love of authority and the state. Their disdain for democracy and free expression. Those calling the Tea Party a proto-fascist movement are dead on.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:52pmwow neo cons here have demonstrated how communist they are, the want a communist police state to turn USA into the USSA. these are the same people that turned Germany into Nazi Germany and the people who turned Russia into the USSR.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:10pmINDI, completely bereft any logical arguments or empirical proof to support his foolish position, hauls out the old Straw Man. Nazis? Soviets? What took you so long?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 1:19pmINDI: Apparently, your idea of a “police state ” is what normal people consider respecting the law. Your anarchism is showing ! Sad that you were raised so poorly. Single mom ? Something definitely missing .
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:00pmQUARAN?DO, Hmmmm!
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:14pmRJJ. QUARANDO… little village in Afghanistan…
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 3:10pmTIME, Quarando is also a surname that is more common in other parts of the world. It is from really an unknown origin or location though. There are relatively few in this country. I doubt that he has the balls to have been in the service and have first hand knowledge of an Afghani village, but he likely has used his last name. Simple as that.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 3:17pmQUARANDO, Proto-fascist? You read a book or maybe found something Wikipedia and now display a singular fascination with that word, LOL. The Tea Party’s name comes from Taxed Enough Already. Their whole being is to have less government in all of our lives, reduce high taxes, and to spend only responsibly. You might want to watch a short history lesson regarding politics:
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 3:52pmRJJ. Definately NOT implying he was U.S. Military… maybe a local Jockying some Camels…
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 4:21pmTIME, I know what you meant. That line was aimed at somebody else.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 5:16pmTIME, Since you mentioned “maybe a local Jockying some Camels…” follow this first link down to the now scrubbed video, but read his assessment of it.
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http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 8:14pmRJJ. I noticed MY comment was removed, glad I saw your follow-up. Hmmmmm, that’s VERY, VERY interesting….. VERY INTERESTING indeed.
Report Post »Maximus_Delta
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:45amOnly in Washington state… bunch of liberals, queers, anit-american, jihad capital of America….
Report Post »Master.Debater
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:43amCheck out the film, God Bless America (2011). The left enjoys laughing at the prospect of violence toward those they perceive as the impediments to their view of how things should be. But films like God Bless America couldn’t possibly influence anybody to do violence. No, how could it when we know it is the Tea Party that does that…
Report Post »historyguy48
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:56amComrade Master Baiter, interesting name, does it refer to some weird sexual thing you enjoy doing? Anyway, this person is a fool, and the police treated him like what he is! Frankly, what is this story even in here for?
Report Post »Blazebanned
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:01am@Historyguy48.
Report Post »No, thats encinom, and he’s stating what he does, when moms no there.
historyguy48
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:10amComrade it was really just an extremely poor attempt at a joke, and I do apologise. Of course everyone knows that the Tea Party is a criminal organization filled with racist types and gun violence. After all, Dear Leader said so repeatedly. Of course his lips were moving, so he was probably lying, but he did say so!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:41amThe police showed more restraint that I would have..If he pointed that umbrell at me, the least he would get would be an a@@ whipping….
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:41am…
Report Post »His Mom must be so proud.
Mr.Fitnah
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:01amThat was his mom in the beard.
Report Post »Gladius_Doctorae
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:07pmIts very obvious both his parents stand up when they pee. He is nothing more than a terd!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:38amIf the police shot and killed him and I was on the jury…NOT GUILTY. My reasoning? One less stupid person.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 12:26pmAt least you are upfront with your hatred of America, its constitution and the rule of law.
Report Post »BlackCrow
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:38amAfter the events of Friday this fool is lucky a SWAT sniper didn’t drop him like a bad habit.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:38amAh, the so-called ” 99%-ers. ” The OWS Crowd of anti-capitalist clowns . The Gee, I wonder if Obama is still ” feeling their frustration ?” Hurry November. Time to end the Obama circus and its anti-capitalism Occupation of the White House. NoBama 2012. No Democrats 2012.
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:55amBARBER2. We’ll be having another “Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army” inside the Tampa GOP Convention along with the one’s on the outside. One set of clowns pointing umbrellas, the other clowns pointing to, and showing their @sses…
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:38amClown Army? Haven’t we seen this before? Wasn’t it James Belushi, and John Ritter who fought off a clown army in “Real Men?” Okay, sarcasm off. These are some truly disgusting idiots. So, clowns, guess what will happen to you when you really try to use those umbrella’s pointy tips as weapons?
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:49amFunny you mention John Ritter fighting off clowns RJJ. Was channel surfing last night and Steven King’s “IT” was on with John Ritter fighting off a clown in that one too, lol.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:08amTIME, I had forgotten that one. Still, I think that I missed most of Real Men while laughing so hard the first time I watched it. Pretty much like the first time I watched Stripes. Had to go back the next night to watch that one again.
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 11:16amRJJ. Can’t remember if I ever saw “Real Men” or not… will have to check it out and see. I’ve seen so many darn movies over the years, it’s hard to remember most until something sparks my memory… lol. Hope you and your’s are doing well over there in Gadsden. Hotter and stickier than the dang jungle here in Florida sometimes.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:11pmTIME, Actually, we’ve had a rather decent summer weather wise. I was just telling a friend last night down in Tampa that we’ve been having light rains usually in the morning and evening that have kept it much cooler for this time of the year. While the southern portion of the state is having a draught, there is no such thing here.
Report Post »I do know what you mean about the usual heat and humidity here though. I used to live in Tampa back in the ’70s and there is a considerable difference.
Here, check out the Real Men theater trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0KNTahw-DY
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:34pmChecked out the link… I DID see part of it, thanks… lol.
I do remember you stating that you were in this area during your Army years and your conversations with another Blazer regarding same. It was Ybor City you were talking about and some old places in the area. I spent time at Ft. Bliss back in the day going throught the 1SG Course, then again for the SMA. And when with Recruiting Command previously as a Nurse Recruiter, had taken a bunch of “Down Range Possibilities” to San Antonio for a couple of tours. Recruiting Command had the big bucks for these Recruitment tours…
I kind of liked the weather there myself.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:41pmTIME, here is the full scene on the Clown Attack:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTuPiHwUFGo&feature=related
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:45pmOH… and btw RJJ… gotta‘ live Ritter’s scene with Belushi’s “dad”… priceless…
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 2:55pmTIME, Lived in Tampa prior to joining the Army. First duty station was Ft Bragg, after almost four years there I had the pleasantry of being permanent party in Graf, Hohenfels, and Wildflecken, followed by Ft Drum shortly after they had changed from Camp Drum. When I was there, the installation had four permanent buildings, and one was the PX. Every other structure on the post had their building numbers start with “T” for temporary. Civility finally arrived after I was back in Germany. I did enjoy Upstate, NY though. Plenty of rural areas, and the people were as friendly as here. But here, we don’t have to shovel snow eight months out of the year. Actually no shovelling snow at all.
Report Post »Oh yeah, a couple of us were chatting about Ybor City. Loved the Columbia Restaurant there along with The Silver Ring back then. But, I now understand that the Ring has branched out and changed a lot. I could deal with a good Cuban sandwich about now, and toss in some real black beans on yellow rice with iced onions. Shoot, a Lums hotdog and a schooner of cold beer would be nice too.
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 3:45pmRJJ. That’s right, that’s right… I remember now. We were talking about Reforgers (Graf, Wild-Chicken and Hoenfels when I was TDY and you were Perm Party), plus I was with the 8th ID in Baumholder for a stretch… and you at Fort Drum (which I spent time at when it was still Camp Drum… Empire Glacier training exercises… twice). It’s all coming back, lol.
Being from “upstate” NY… I understand the snow believe you me and saw first hand Watertown (and surrounding areas) and THAT ridiculous snowfall. Ft Devens in Mass, was another snow-bound area for a better part of the year which I don’t miss at all.
I couldn’t have imagined being perm party in Graf, Ho or Chicken… NO thank you! You have my gratitude and respect.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 5:27pmTIME, You may have mentioned it, but I can’t recall. I was with 3rd Bde 8th ID when it was retired and feflagged as 1st AD. Eventually I ended up in Bad Kreuznach. That was my final tour in Germany. Oddly, on my second we trained at Baumholder, and I ran the .45 range for each of our BN’s 6 companies. I remember being stuck in Baumholder for almost seven weeks with only military vehicles. Other than a nearby German canteen in one of the training camps, the closest thing that I can recall as entertainment was a snack bar with a jukebox next door to a laundromat. We go over to K Town once in a while.
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Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:49pmI was lucky with my tour at Baumholder (other than another tour out of my MOS which suk’d). I got to Germany with basic orders assigning me to the 8th ID in BK (most likely a Combat Engineer Unit), but got in country and the next thing I knew I was being reassigned to the NCO Academy (PLDC/SLC) in Baumholder even before I caught my breath during reception at the Air Base.
Headed to “The Rock”..got throught the Instructor selection process… instructed for a few months, then was given the Senior Instructor billet which wound up being a cake job as I look back (not quite REMF… but close, lol).
Most of the Instructors at that time were former Drills like myself, so I’m assuming that may have come into play with that particular assignment at the Academy. Never did get a straight answer though.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:37am…
Why didn’t just one person with “a pair”, beat the total crap out of this evil jerk.
He could have easily concealed a rifle inside that umbrella.
In my town, if someone walked up to a police officer and said the things this “clown” said, the cops would beat him down, cuff him, and haul him to jail.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 9:44am…
Report Post »Why didn’t they at least take him in for a mental evaluation?
barber2
Posted on July 22, 2012 at 10:01amPaint guns and/ or water balloons ? Maybe we need a “Theater of the 1% ” to make an appearance ….
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