R.I. City May Battle Atheists In Court Over Christian Cross Commemorating WWI & WWII Vets
- Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:30pm by
Billy Hallowell
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The battle brewing between atheists and Woonsocket, Rhode Island, officials over a WWI and WWII memorial on the premises of a firehouse is continuing to heat up. Last week, The Blaze reported that the secular Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) was threatening to file a lawsuit if a cross that is part of the memorial isn’t removed from public lands. Now, despite initial reservations, the city may be prepared to fight to keep the monument in its current location.
(Related: Atheists Threaten Lawsuit Over ‘Unconstitutional’ RI Firehouse Cross & WWI Monument)
The initial qualms the Woonsocket officials had with waging a legal case in defense of the Christian symbol centered upon monies. After all, a courtroom battle with the FFRF would be costly and the town is currently marred with fiscal woes. But with groups like the conservative legal defense non-profit Liberty Counsel offering pro-bono support, the decision to proceed may be much easier for the community.
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The Woonsocket Call has more about the city’s potential change-of-heart on the matter:
Buoyed by offers of free legal assistance and an outpouring of public support, the City Council will decide tonight whether to establish a defense fund to keep the monument at Place Jolicoeur, in the parking lot of Fire Station No. 2, with the Latin cross intact.
“Clearly the level of support we’ve received is an indication of how strongly people around the country feel about the monument,” said Mayor Leo T. Fontaine. “The support they’re offering may enable us to move forward with a defense of a legal claim against the monument, if one is ever filed.” [...]
If approved, a resolution the council is slated to take up at 7:30 tonight in Harris Hall would create “The City of Woonsocket War Memorial Defense and Preservation Fund.” Money deposited into the account would be separate from the general fund and could be used only for “legal and related costs” incurred in defense of the monument and the disputed content of the WFD’s website.
If it turns out the money isn’t needed for a lawsuit, it could be used to maintain the monument, as well as other military memorials in the city, the resolution says.
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Since news broke of the FFRF’s threats, individuals have been pouring support into the city in an effort to try and save the monument. According to Fontaine, people from other states, including California, Washington State, Texas and Florida, have phone in pledging support and assistance. Additionally, numerous law firms in addition to the Liberty Counsel have offered to help out.
As The Blaze previously reported, the Christian cross, part of a WWI memorial that was built in Woonsocket back in 1921, is causing a great deal of angst among secularists who stand firmly opposed to its presence on public property. Taking on even more significance beyond WWI, the monument was re-dedicated back in 1952 to honor three fallen WWII soldiers who lived in the area and has since been a public statement of remembrance.
In a April 13 letter sent from the FFRF to Fontaine, FFRF staff attorney Rebecca Markert called the presence of the cross “unconstitutional” and claimed that a concerned citizen made the group aware of its presence. Here’s a portion of the letter (read the entire note here).
It seems the FFRF may just have a legal battle on their hands if they choose to move forward with a lawsuit (and pending the city decides to keep the cross where it is). On Wednesday, members of the public are also planning a rally in support of the monument.
(H/T: Woonsocket Call)
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Comments (91)
greatgrandma
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 1:12amTwo things, # 1 Where do we who live in other states,. send our monies to help save the cross?
Report Post »# 2, Who is the individual Atheist who started this mess? Why do they always hide under darkness, never being named? Because if they had come out in public, Lord help them if THEIR house ever caught fire.
lordjosh
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 6:45am“….conservative legal defense non-profit Liberty Counsel offering pro-bono support…..”
“F*** smiley glad hands with hidden agendas”
They will fight this in court with the pretext that the cross would otherwise be a problem except for that it is part of a historical monument dedicated to the fallen. That may or may not win, however it will certainly ignore the farse of the complaint that the cross on city property is illegal.
Report Post »We have to fight the false notion that the first ten amendments (commonly mis identified as a “bill of rights”) are anything more than “furthur restrictions and declarations:” restraining the federal government. The city of Woonsocket may place a cross on city property for the sole purpose of advancing Christianity and not be in violation of the US Con., regardless of how ill advised that would be.
twill2118
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 7:21amSo so true, I feel a athiest needs to hide, shut their traps when it comes to others wanting to worship GOD. They have their choice and no one is pushing crap on them. So why should they care???? I am to a point put them all on a boat and send their butts to another country or just out to sea. FOR the fact USA was built on GOD, stands for it. IN GOD WE TRUST… I am so sick of these issues, if the non believing people want to non believe shut up no one is pushing nothing on ur ignorance. LEAVE OUR CROSS ALONE> and your right to the little coward hiding that always starts it just like the old woman who took prayer out of school, and no pledge to the flags. I am sick of these types of people she is dead and gone PRAYER needs to be back and they are to stupid to see how much worse things are since it was taken out of our schools.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 9:07amGood God “greatgrandma”
Report Post »Do you advocate burning down anothers house. or NOT helping another in trouble.
You might want to check you’re passport destination, cause that thinking doesn’t lead to the pearly gates.
KAS_Wolf
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:13amAmen!
Report Post »swift_driver
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 12:38pmGreat, great news.
Report Post »God Bless Liberty Counsel, ACLJ, ADF, and all the other pro-American law firms that will never shy away from standing for and protecting what it right.
Dawnsie72
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:13pmPlease visit http://www.ci.woonsocket.ri.us/ to make a donation. Or Google, Woonsocket, RI. I love how all of these people can make negative comments but no one was there to support their beliefs. What do they want next?? All crosses removed from all of the Veteran’s Cemetaries in America and overseas? All Veteran’s monuments in almost every town in America be destroyed? Should we be reprinting all the US currency to remove GOD? Grow up people and find something better to bitch about unless you want to hand over the money to make all these changes. There are bigger problems in the world right now, like war, disease, hunger and homeless people. If more people focused on loving one another and being positive instead of focusing on the negative, this earth would be a better place to live.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:11am“Lord help them if THEIR house ever caught fire.”
And you wonder why they remain anonymous? What happened to “go pick on the Muslims and see what happens”? I can see what would happen without the Muslims.
Hey grandma, written any death threats to 16 year old girls lately?
1GirlUSA
Posted on May 4, 2012 at 4:39pmAtta Girl!
Report Post »1) Go to http://www.ci.woonsocket.ri.us/ to make a donation. 2) check out the FFRF website. you might be suprised at the names of some of the supporters. One is a son of a U.S. President. Also, with all their bluff, notice how many actual cases in 30+ years that they have actually won. They are blowhards that want you to think that they are this big organization….Not!
ContinentalArmy
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 12:02amToo bad all Atheists don’t have commonsense and Honor like MRBUTCHER. I wonder if any of the members of the FFRF ever considered that maybe these Memorials were to Salute their fallen Relatives?
Report Post »Are they going to sue the Govt. for all the Crosses in Arlington Cemetery, placed there for all the fallen Soldiers of wars in Past and Present? This absurd bashing just needs Stopped! Counter sue the FFRF and give them jail time if they do any damage to any Memorial. Just leave Religion out of it.
lassiegirldawn
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 12:46amYes, last month they said they wanted all Crosses in Arlington Cemetery removed.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 7:50amYes, the crosses at Arlington have been targets from athiests…..I sure would like to see this be squashed in the US Supreme Court once and for all…….I mean it’s amazing how long lawyers have carried on with this farce about “the Seperation of Church and State”!! NOT in the US Constitution!!! Of course after the next generation is brainwashed in the liberal school system they will be MADE to believe it is so! Don’t EVEN get me started on the 2nd Amendment either!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 7:53amThey should nail one of Atheist’s lawyers to that cross and watch the rest slither away fast. And the same for any Fed judge that would have it removed.
Report Post »KAS_Wolf
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:15amMy first husband has a memorial cross at Arlington National (no body was recovered, so his marker is on a beautiful, peaceful hillside) I will fight with every last breath in my body if they try to destroy his cross.
Report Post »IDONTTHINKSO
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:43pmWhat atheists can’t seem to remember is these men and women gave their lives for their beliefs as well as our Christian rights! I wonder how many atheists received the Lord during their tours of duty; does anyone else think there were some conversions during the wars? The graves and monuments that these people trample on surely contain family members of some of these individuals! Do they not have the ability to understand that what they have has come from many Christian giving their lives for them and the dead has earned the right to be remembered how, where and by those that support them? Atheists, the people you attack pray for you daily, even as you attack the dead! Some person or group has recommended these monuments, probably voted on them, and approved them! At the time that this was done it was done by “we the people” now years later your group has determined that they are illegally on government property. Would you want anyone disrespecting the dead in your family, is your family tree vacant of a Christian Patriot? To refer back in time to some famous words quoted “can’t we all just get along”? GOD be with you!
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:14amDo you think Pat Tillman’s family wants anyone to disrespect his memory with a religious monument? What about those who prayed at his funeral after being asked not to?
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:33pmI wish all these idiots would understand the sacrifice that these vets gave so again, these idiots can protest. If a cross upsets them so much, send their b u t t s off to a war and see if and when they come back they don’t have a different attitude. Our Vets deserve all the reorganization that they have earned.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:38pmSo are athesits like vampires that can’t live in the presence of a cross? They will disolve if they have to look at one? What’s the beef?
Are atheists “a-feared” that if they have to look at a cross (or a nativity or hear a prayer or any other faith based speech) that they may have to think asto whether you actually beleive that which you posit?
Are atheists so “-a-feared” that the brilliance of their postition can’t stand up to any competing ideas?
Are atheists so “a-feared“ that given a choice between the 2 ”philosphies” that the atheist postion will be found wanting?
If a position, thought or ideal is so True, it will still be true despite competing thought. Why try to silence the other idea? could it be that when all is said and done, the Truth speaks and justt like in the beginning, the evil one wants to convince that we are all gods?
Is it possible that the evil one needs to silence the Gospel because when confronted with the Gospel the evil one is defeated?
DO NOT reply to me if you do not answer the questions. DO NOT spew ad hominems or accuse me of ad hominems (hint questions are not ad hominems)
If you cannot “defend” your positions with a reasoned argument, go elsewhere . trust me I can defend (prove) mine.
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Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 12:26amEven satan believes in God, and Jesus dying on the cross defeated him. Jesus even said the cross would offend many, it is santan’s tool to use against God, and to a Christian, we are saved by the blood that was shed on that cross, to evil it is a reminder of the things to come, “defeated.”
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:26pmIs there a legal defense fund for the Woonsocket County? I will gladly donate funds to help them pay the court costs and push back on these atheists… everyone needs to get organized and be on the watch for atheist legal actions and come to the defense of towns, counties and cities that don’t have the budgets to fight legal battles like this. Working together we can defeat the atheists and cost them dearly in their legal funding in losing case after case, somebody from the Blaze, reach out and find out about how people can donate to a legal defense fund for this town and others, we need to stand strong and stand together, we can’t keep allowing the atheists to remove God from our lives.
Report Post »Darlie
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:54pmExactly right. We need to put our money where our mouths are so communities can afford to stand up to these bullies. Thst’s what they are, ridiculously juvenile bullies.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 7:16amI’m on a fixed income but even I can spare $25.00. It’s about time someone stood up to these people. Why have we let a minority dictate to us for so long, Removing crosses, manger scenes, etc., when the majority approve never has made sense to me.
Besides, I spend 23 years in the Army and have to many friends buried under those crosses.
Where do we send the money?
OMG 2012
Report Post »AgentOfgood
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:41amGive early and often.. Here’s the web site with the address for mailing your check. God Bless!
http://www.ci.woonsocket.ri.us/
Donations may be addressed to:
Report Post »The City of Woonsocket War Memorial Defense and Preservation Fund
PO Box B
Woonsocket, RI 02895
Bruce P.
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:15pmGood for the city for standing up to this. Judging from the article, no one at the firehouse, who have to work in the shadow of the monument, complained. It was just busy-bodies. No one is hurt by this. I say, as an atheist, let the monument stay.
Report Post »TJexcite
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:10pmJust wait until they try to remove some Minaret that is erected around a Islamic cultural center that is city owned. Or they try to silence some Islamic call to pray once they silence all church bells.
What they need to do is divide the parking lot to be a separated lot and then sold to private owner. The sold part is just the foot print of the monument and sold for one dollar. And then it is no on private land so the city can’t remove it.
Report Post »Suzanne D
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:05pmThis case can be put to rest with three simple words: Salazar v. Buono. If the atheists want to sue, let them. I say the City counter-sue for damages, since the previous case decided this issue already.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:03pmIt is about damn time we out lawyered them!
Take that you athiest weasels. Make them pay dearly and their money backing will dry up.
Report Post »One of the Quiet Ones
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:40pmI think all enlisted should be asked a question. Would they desire or be offended if a memorial that contained a cross, crescent, star of david, … (they can pick some or all) were erected in their memory (an others collectively) because of their death in service to the country. If the memorial is in there memory and they are fine with it or would desire it if one would be erected anyway then who is anyone to say I am offended. Since at that time Christianity was much more prevalent then it would be fair to assume the cross being offensive to someone today does not matter for the same reason.
Report Post »Suzanne D
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:50pmYou are missing their argument ENTIRELY. They are arguing that putting up a cross (or any other religious symbol) on Government property constitutes a violation of the First Amendment, because it allegedly means the Government is supporting a religion.
Report Post »KAS_Wolf
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:18amSuzanne – They are not correct. The First Amendment only prohibits Congress from passing laws to establish a national religion. There is no prohibition of markers, crosses, or other symbols.
Report Post »weskets
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:36pmThe US Supreme Court has ruled previously that Atheism is a form of Religion, therefore sine this group has been going around the country filing lawsuits similar to this, does this mean we can file suit against them since they apparently believe their religion is superior over all others?
Additionally since they state that God and Christ are fictional characters, Then why are they so afraid of them? Do they fear Harry Potter as much? What about Batman?
Who is funding them? Obama? Soros? Is there another hidden agenda? Oh wait, Obama is a christian, sorry my bad. He will set this straight I am sure of it. The same way he is not responsible for the high gas prices, that is the fault of George Bush and Congress, he ignores and works around Congress on everything EXCEPT creating jobs and gas prices.
Report Post »Suzanne D
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 12:09am“The US Supreme Court has ruled previously that Atheism is a form of Religion …”
Actually, no … this is a common misconception.
The case to which you are referring (Torcaso v. Watkins, 1961) contains a personal note (known as a “dictum”) at the end of the final opinion. Within his finding, Justice Black wrote “Among the religions in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, Secular Humanism, and others.” So while Justice Black *seems* to be stating that secular humanism/atheism is a “religion,” this is NOT a legally binding finding of the Court … it is merely his personal opinion.
Report Post »Joey Odendahl
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:33pmHOW is this “unconstitutional”? Just because the government allows its citizens to use public property to express their religious freedom, does NOT mean that the government is establishing a national religion. When they allow occupiers to protest on public property, does that mean they officially endorse them? No. Same here. Whether is a nativity scene in December or a cross on a war memorial, this is NOT a national religion. Nobody is forced to become Christian.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:45pm@JOEY ODENDAHL
Remember when the Taliban blew up the Buddha statues?
It won’t be long before ANY religious reference is wiped from ALL monuments.
Like in the Ayn Rand book ‘Anthem’…someone discovered a book with the word ‘I’ and the gig was up.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:30pmThank God people are standing up, speaking, and sticking together to defend and support this memorial and our heritage. I hope the rally planned for tomorrow goes very well. We need more Americans standing up for our national heritage. May God bless those who help in all their endeavors to keep this memorial.
Report Post »ColoradoNative
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:29pmOur God is bigger than some monument, but these selfish atheists are pushing a little too hard. This is a monument that has historical significance honoring those who died for the freedom we all enjoy – including you atheists.
I have come to the conclusion that atheists who do this sort of thing are just selfish people, who have nothing better to do than to try to fulfill their own selfish desires by trying to bring other people down.
I am ready to contribute to the defense fund because this is a push too far. These atheists should be ashamed of themselves, but they don’t know what shame is since they have no moral compass.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:17pmI just want to say how much I am appalled, as an atheist and a non-believer, at the actions by the Freedom From Religion organisation.
They in no way represent a true “freethinking” perspective or have any cultural understanding.
“Freethinking” should never be used as a euphemistic threat to say, “think like me, or else… we’ll sue”
Crosses to mark death have been around a long time,
Report Post »There is no reason to stop them now..
kaydeebeau
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:43pmThank-you MR Butcher…..I will still want to save your soul :) –
I appreciate your right to not accept what I say. I am only required to tell you… I do not claim to have any power to convince or force you.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:08pmMrButcher – I may not agree with your views on God, but I will gladly have your back. You are a true gentleman. As Dr. Phil says, “I don’t expect you to accept my views as your own”.
Now, can I get 2 Ribeyes?
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 10:19amLocation, Location, Location. When Believers and Unbelievers see small white crosses along secondary roads, it gives them pause. Small cross by a hair-pin curve or a cross with compound crosses or a cross close to a railroad track or a cross on a straight road close to an intersection or a cross that is laden with flowers and a teddy bear. Who knows the first reaction when seeing a cross along a road for the first time or the community that sees the cross everyday going to work or play & are reminded of highway deaths…or I should take this corner alittle bit slower because there is a cross that is telling me someone did not complete the corner. Oh wait, a few years ago there was a “war on crosses” on secondary roads.
Report Post »And the beat goes on!
chanman12345
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:08pmThat lady took the worlds right from my mouth.“Its sad what the world is turning to”
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:05pmSo are athesits like vampires that can’t live in the presence of a cross? They will disolve if they have to look at one? What’s the beef?
Are atheists “a-feared” that if they have to look at a cross (or a nativity or hear a prayer or any other faith based speech) that they may have to think asto whether you actually beleive that which you posit?
Are atheists so “-a-feared” that the brilliance of their postition can’t stand up to any competing ideas?
Are atheists so “a-feared“ that given a choice between the 2 ”philosphies” that the atheist postion will be found wanting?
If a position, thought or ideal is so True, it will still be true despite competing thought. Why try to silence the other idea? could it be that when all is said and done, the Truth speaks and justt like in the beginning, the evil one wants to convince that we are all gods?
Is it possible that the evil one needs to silence the Gospel because when confronted with the Gospel the evil one is defeated?
DO NOT reply to me if you do not answer the questions. DO NOT spew ad hominems or accuse me of ad hominems (hint questions are not ad hominems)
If you cannot “defend” your positions with a reasoned argument, go elsewhere . trust me I can defend (prove) mine.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:21pmAs an atheist, I completely agree with your critique.
This is funded group-think that needs to be combated and challenged
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Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:48pmAgain Thank you Mr Butcher… We can agree to disagree “theologically” . There is nothing “wrong” with reaspned disagreement
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:58pmThis non-believer says keep your cross, doesn’t offend me in the slightest, keep your nativity scenes, couldn’t care less about them.
The problem is that these atheist organisations are no better than a catholic organisation or a mormon organisation or a muslim organisation in that they are trying to impose their beliefs onto others. They do not represent me as I am sure many christians do not want to be represented by the catholic church.
If someone needs a cross to look at in order to be happy then so be it, I would rather see happy people than fight over two perpendicular sticks.
So my answer to you would be no but then I’m not the one threatening to maybe think about filing a lawsuit.
Now for arguments sake, I’m planning to put a monument to Buddha in the same park, I assume you would have no problem with that.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:12pmnope. I would however fight you on a statue of Obama.
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:33pmYou bring the statue and I’ll bring the gloves.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:55pm@ Survivor why ? What is the reason you are wanting to put up a budha? What people group are you attempting to honor with your siplay? What is the statement you want to make?
Are you somehow attempting to diminish the sacrifice of WWI soldiers by sugggesting that a remembrance to them is somehow religious? Is there some comprable budhist reference to honor those fallen in service to our country?
Are you somehow implying that remembering our fallen soldiers is only a religious remembrance?
Are you saying that the time honored symbol for remrance of fallen soldiers ( a cross grave marker) has some religious meaning?
Are you saying that we should dig up all the cross grave markers at Arlington National Cemetary – they should be removed?
What about the Star of David that mark the graves of our fallen Jewish brethern? Are those to be removed too?
Are you saying that the religious convictions of those who died to protect your right to hound the religious should be removed so you will not be “offended”?
So when I a former service member die, I can’t have a cross marker “cause it will hurt your feelings?
So I can’t believe what I believe because your “sensibilites” are threatented?
And all of the previous is a picture of tolerance how?
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 12:44amKay…I’m sorry but did you only read the last 2 lines of my post? I have already stated that I have no problem if the cross stays, I also agree that the cross is the time honoured symbol of the fallen (not just soldiers but all who have passed). I have said quite clearly that I do not support the group wishing it to be taken away.
One of your original questions stated : Are atheists so “-a-feared” that the brilliance of their postition can’t stand up to any competing ideas? My reference to buddha was to see if you would be comfortable with an opposing symbol, something that you didn’t believe in, being placed in the park. After all, we are a nation of many nationalities and religions and the US defence force is not made up 100% of christians. Tolerance is not a one way street.
I am only talking about the monument as stated in the story, I never made reference to any cross grave markers, stars of david or anything else that you alluded to. I would personally lay a wreath on your cross marker in rememberance if that was your desire. I am not and have never been offended by any symbol religious or otherwise. Contrary to the opinion of the majority here, being a non believer does not automatically make you a thoughtless a-hole.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 1:14am@ Survivor…so the challenge regarding (paraphrasing) “I want to put up a budha in a public park so no one who is posting here will have a problem with that”? was the context I replied to you about. I took your reply to be a “slam” .as in so youso called tolerant Christians “screaming” on this topic would be so supportive of any other non-Christan position”
However, inductive reasoning tells me that such comments are meant to attempt to highlight hypocracy within the opponents argument. If that was not your intention, I apologize for my conclusion.
I do realize that understanding the intent behind posts can be a challenge – they are devoid of facial expression, frame of reference and inflection of speech. Thus my usual format of questions to clarify postitons.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 1:56am@ Suvirvor and btw – you didn’t answer the main question – why do you want to put a budha?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 2, 2012 at 1:00pm@survivor I’m against mandated diversity or forced multiculturalism, which is what most liberals or Marxists advocate today. If the city, which is suppose to represent the residents there, voted to put up Buddha as some memorial, that’s fine. As a Christian, I wouldn’t like it, but that’s THEIR power to do so. I might have a march, petition or go out in the street, peacefully, and cause some public outcry over it, BUT I would not sue them or take them to court. If I lose the battle to convince them, or change their mind, so be it. I’ll let it go, or wait until the next elections, or next session. As long as no one is forced to pray to it, or ordered to become a Buddhist. Who cares? I don’t. As a voter, I don’t vote for satnists or former criminals, because there might be a chance they won’t represent me as I see best. Wherefore, I vote for decent, virtuous people, and also for those who hold some beliefs in common with me. In that manner, I KNOW what to expect from them, as elected officials having legislative powers. Now, if the city voted to put a memorial with a cross, and just to be politically correct or not offend anyone else, they begrudgingly, against their judgement or representative authority, had to put up also a Buddha statue, or a statue of Zeus, THAT would be absolutely ridiculous and destructive to our society or common identity. We have a federal Government divided into states, counties, cities and towns. Let’s take advantage of it.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:05pmGood on RI.
It’s high time someone stood up to these clowns.
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:00pmI thank God for groups like Liberty Counsel. For far to long the ACLU and other liberal Soros supported groups have had the stage all to themselves.
I don’t know who funds Liberty Counsel, (I know it’s not Soros), so I think I’ll do some research. If it comes back good, I think I’ll send them a few dollars. I wish I had the money Soros plays with, then I’d send them a LOT of money. Well, I would if the research came back good and I had the money Soros does.
Report Post »South Philly Boy
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:00pmAll the RATS come out of their hole they think it’s their time.
Report Post »American_Woman
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:59pmWe must stand up and fight for our “Freedom OF Religion” from this “Freedom FROM Religion” group that is pushing THEIR beliefs on us.
Report Post »aplingtjayonia
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:58pmThis is not just happening as a course of events, they are being funded. Follow the money. The biggest problem that I have with atheists is that they believe that we can eventually become gods through technology. Yes, I’m preaching to the choir, I know atheists will not listen to this. But, to be an atheist means to, by their own beliefs, want to take god’s place. There already is a being who is ahead of them in line for that and I don’t need to say who that is. I don’t want anything bad to happen to an individual atheist, but in a roundabout way, I believe the are worshiping the devil.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:56pm..
Don’t know how the vote turned out but God Bless you for not backing down.
Atheists, you are your own worst enemy; you have energized the religious community in your mean spirited attacks on monuments dedicated to those who have died defending our nation.
You will not succeed in purging this nation of its cultural and religious history.
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Report Post »spirited
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:11pmAmen.
>God Bless America
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:53pmI know a few WWII vets who would love to talk to these commie idiots. I don’t think the commies would stand a chance against them.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:03pmsell it to private individual for $1 and then they can’t do crap
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:49pmLeave it up and fight these bast***ards
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