Rachel Maddow & National Review‘s Rich Lowry Battle Over Ryan’s Budget Plan
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Sparks flew Sunday during NBC’s “Meet the Press” when MSNBC host Rachel Maddow and National Review’s Rich Lowry clashed over Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget plan.
Maddow dismissed the notion that a Romney-Ryan GOP ticket would appeal more to voters concerned about the economy, calling the House Budget Committee chairman’s plan “more ripe for attack than it is for appeal” and saying it has shades of “voodoo economics” with vague proposals about closing tax loopholes.
“It doesn’t have very many numbers in it,” Maddow said before Lowry stepped in.
“It’s not a tax cut, it’s designed to be revenue neutral,” Lowry said.
The two went back and forth over the genesis of the plan before ultimately settling in on the subject of Medicare cuts. Lowry noted President Barack Obama has set up $700 billion in cuts to Medicare over the next decade, which Maddow pointed out the Ryan plan keeps in place. Lowry had said earlier that Romney wants to repeal those cuts.
“Do you support $700 billion in cuts in Medicare over the next 10 years?” Lowry asked.
“I’m not running for president. Paul Ryan is — ” Maddow replied.
“Do you? Do you?” Lowry asked.
“I’m not running for anything,” Maddow repeated.
“Do you? Why can’t you answer it? Why can’t you answer?” Lowry demanded.
“Paul Ryan is running for vice president — ” Maddow said.
” — See you can’t answer,” Lowry said, a pattern that continued for nearly a full minute.
Watch the full clip below, via NBC:
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TexOkie
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:12pmShe “wants to know the logic of attacking someone for something you yourself are proposing” but she does not see herself as doing just that. I think that was Lowry’s point. If she had answered his question then we would all see what a hypocrit she is.
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:06pmRache still needs to take care of that 5 o’clock shadow.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:19pmOf course she can’t answer. She is a campaigner for the Dems so has to deceive the public. If the Dems admitted tomorrow that they were socialists, she would be out extolling the “virtues” of socialism. Scary.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:24pmMadcow is a master at making some wild way out there spins. But, if you sit back and think about it, they really do become some silly yarns. If you sit back and just gloss over them, she sounds truly enlightened though. She is like the old saying, slicker than owl sh/t.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:55pmNot much to say…Just another MSNBC BOZO..
Report Post »The Complete Clown Fest…..Tingles, O’Doodle,
Schlutz and Sharpo….those are the only ones
I have seen, are there more ??
turkey13
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:59pmMyself and wife had lunch over a one of my sons home today. My daughter in-law saves coupons to save money so she goes to a store that doubles up to $1.00, even though they make good money. The woman in front of her was using food stams and the clerk saw her card in her hand. She had a 10 Lb bag of dog food and the clerk told her she couldn’t pay with the card. The woman told her 10 or 12 year old daughter to go back to the meat dept. and get 4 or 5 packs of hamburger meat. The woman told the clerk that the dogs got to eat to. This is what we have come to today, welfare peiople expect 100% of their needs to be taken care of. I’v been behind those folks that pay with food stamps and then cash for their pet food, beer and ciggies.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 5:03pmIt’s not like votes matter anyway, he democrat sos in Ohio, admitted at least 20% of the votes for Obama were fraudulent and nothing was done, so what about bogus polls.
Report Post »LicketySplit
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 5:27pmThats all they have…lies and deceit and when confronted with the truth they just try and bluster their way thru it all…typical liberal response. She is sooooooooooooooo inadequate and condescending that i have no doubt she will run for potus in 2050:)
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 5:44pmshe answered WHY she couldn’t answer the question!!
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 5:44pmShe needs to be arguing on where we will get food for this winter. Cattle production is down to 60% of its high, so says the August issue of Successful Farming magazine. Here in Oklahoma we had rain this spring and got 2 cuttings on hay but 8 states around us got a couple of inches on their only cutting. Corn is down 30% and we are going to burn it our cars.Wheat and Oats is the same way, most will be turned into fuel as per Obamas mandate. My neighbor across the road sold his cows last month and my neighbor next to me sold out last year along with my sons. They leased their grazing land for $12,000 and the hunting lease to 4 lawyers for $10,000 a year. This is after making nothing last year with our worst drought to date.
Report Post »IIIcorp
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 9:37pmIn a battle of wits, Maddow is totally unarmed.
Report Post »txdave22
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 10:10pmTHAT would be spelled HYPOCRITE, einstein. You should know how to spell it because the GOP is full of them, and they have damaged America for generations.
FARMERS ACROSS MIDWEST ANGRY AT WEAK GOP LEADERSHIP IN HOUSE IN FAILURE TO PASS FARM BILL—————While the House Agriculture Committee signed off on a measure, its substantial cuts to food programs alienated too many Democrats. And its cuts to those programs, as well as to some forms of farm aid, were not enough to appease the chamber’s most conservative members.
Republican leaders were unable to muster enough support for even a one-year extension of the law and instead passed a short-term drought-relief measure, the first time the House has failed to bring its own farm bill to the floor. The Senate, which had passed its own version by a healthy bipartisan margin, declined to take up the short-term House bill, and Congress left town in a stalemate.
Report Post »Fubared
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 12:44amDave
Report Post »You up for budget chat? Call Willy, roll a few and get on with your farm aid.
Centurian
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 1:44amTXDAVE,
Please get your information correct. Please note that the Republican House passed a farm bill and sent it on to the Senate, where the Democrats have refused to bring it to vote.
The Senate also had their own bill that was sent to the House. The difference was that the House Bill offset the costs of relief by making cuts in the budget. The Senate Dems don’t want to cut the budget, so they sent out Obama to whine about the mean ‘ol heartless Republicans.
Fact is, the House Republicans were willing to send through a $383 million disaster package for livestock producers before adjourning for the summer, but the Senate Dems refused this! It would have helped those in need while the differences in the two bills could be hammered out.
So, stop your lies. Just quit posting and go back to fantasizing you‘re Obama’s lover, because I am tired of your gossip mongering…
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 8:20am@enturian
You don’t expect liberals to know the truth do you? they believe the hype that Republicans are out to destroy everything. that’s the party line. If they weren’t such useful idiots, the Dems/Socialist party would already have abandoned them. Dems always want to add more spending, without cutting out anything. It’s like if I have a budget that has a wiggle room of $200 a month and then I go out and get a brand new car that adds $500 a month, and I don’t cut from somewhere, eventually that credit card is going to be all used up. The difference is the Dems just think America will keep paying more and more taxes to support their lifestyle (they being Congress). I say pay Congress what the military gets…I’ll even let them use the officer scale, vs enlisted. Let them get a retirement like the military, too. NOTHING until you put in 20 years, and then it’s only 75% of your highest salary, 30 gets 80% and if you survive past 38, you get 105%. If the people don’t vote you in for 20 years, you get NOTHING.
Report Post »RayOne
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 4:36pmBut, did she answer his question?
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:11pm…
Report Post »Leftist Liberal Rachel Madcow really made a fool of herself (as always) on Meet The Press.
How does she even have a job? She loses her temper immediately, when she realizes that she’s wrong and the other person is right.
She is very unprofessional, rude, loud, animated, disgusting, ugly, ineffective, and insignificant.
GoodStuff
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:26pm“How does she even have a job?”
I think we all know the answer to that question. So that NBC/Comcast to show us all how “progressive” they are by employing lesbos.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:07pmAffirmative action for lesbians?
Report Post »nueces
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:13pmYou forgot deviant. No way I’m gonna subject myself to even a few seconds of this trash.
Report Post »Dug2Dark
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:06pmHey hachel madcow. I have from a very reliable source that u haven’t paid any taxes in the last 10 yr.s & that u r really Horce Face harry reid’s son.
Mitt The viking Romney & Paul The Battleship Wisconsin Ryan 2012.
Report Post »Hey barry, u might have bought a gun to the knife fight, but we bought a whole freakin Battleship.
Clive
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 1:25pmbut no one likes romney, he polls poorly, he can barely open his mouth without saying something stupid, and electoral colleges show him losing by a landslide. wake up and get ready for barry to hand us a giant asskicking.
Report Post »wisehiney
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:06pmSucks when you can’t convince your own weasels, huh rach madskank?
Report Post »TROLLMONGER
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:05pmWhat a nasty piece of work you are. Christian violence and hate nation must be so proud.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:10pmyeah the radical Christians in the party want to cut services to fight Israels wars because they care more about that country than they do about America. killing Muslims is more important than the well being of the people to them.
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:04pmWhy should I care what either of them think? Neither are budget policy experts.
Report Post »jcasos
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:08pmNeither are 99% of Americans who will decide this. It is great to get an insight as to what both sides are thinking. Fortunately, policy experts will not decide these things without Americas input.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:12pmThe Rachel Maddow Show is only seen at a Chinese Buffet when you can’t find someone to change the channel.
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:39pmPolls are a better means to assess what the different opinions are in a population than asking for two opposing “data points”.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:02pmMadcow needs a pacifier.
She like DebbyBlabbymouthSchultz are just robotic shills.
R&R in Nov 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Hayekthegreat
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:01pmThe boldest move for the republican party since nominated Ronald Reagan. No matter who they nominate the dems will always call the candidate a far right extremist and the GOP keeps going farther to the left to try and appease the main stream media, finally maybe they are starting to learn. Republicans don’t win by appealing to Independents, they win by being conservative. I only wish we could flip the ticket.
Report Post »freedomisasfreedomdoes
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:00pm“Do you support $700 billion in cuts in Medicare over the next 10 years?” Lowry asked. “I’m not running for president. Paul Ryan is — ” Maddow replied.
Rachael needs to realize she does not have to be running for anything to answer this question. This question is not only for the politicians to answer, it is one for her as an individual with the unique capacity (as us as humans) for thought to answer.
Report Post »Rachael needs to realize it matters what she as an individual, as a voter thinks first off. She really needs to realize that. That every time she deflects the questions, the issues, or has some preordained answer vs. actually giving thought as to why these mega important questions are being posed, that there are consequences which will effect her and the nation (in this case).
She needs to realize her thoughts matter because this is not about choosing between a hotdog and a hamburger. This is about, generally speaking, the direction our country is going in and the DIRE CONSEQUENCES of either making the wrong decisions (either as individuals or politicians) or letting others (by her statements–politicians) make them for us or her.
Rachael first know you as an individual with a say in this country matter! Then get informed to make the best decision you can because it matters.
Honestybefore truth
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 8:02amAsking any MSNBC host to “realize” anything is like trying to milk a bull. Ain’t going to produce something recognizable. For them to “realize” would require them to be rational and to think for themselves.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:57pmDazzle them with your brilliance and if not confuse them with your babble. Typical Democratic strategy.
Report Post »TexOkie
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:57pmLowry should know better than to expect straight answers to straight questions from someone as far left as Maddow.
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:16pmIt looks like he got the answer he expected. She (it) ended up looking like an idiot and a hypocrite. Maddow and Wassersnot are from the same school, the school of liberal talking points.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:52pmShe has a fevered brain .
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:04pmIf I was watching a News Broadcast and the person could not answer a question because they are try to skirt around the issue – I will turn them off – can’t stand lairs.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:50pmI love how this Ryan situation will bring out the hypocrisy and idiocy of tea party seniors and tea partiers in general. After all, “keep your government hands off my medicare” is their greedy and self-contradictory mantra.
Report Post »stand_for_my_country
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:03pmNo, get your hands off my HEALTHCARE is their mantra. Tea Partiers aren’t stupid.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:08pmI agree !
How dare Ryan oppose 900 million going into “affordable care” from medicare.
Report Post »How dare he suggests giving those under 55 years old a medicare voucher option.
And save our kids from crushing future debt, How dare he!
We lemmings need to stick together.
antitheist
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:10pmNo, keep your government hands off my medicare is their mantra, evidenced by their heckling and misspelled signs.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=keep+your+government+hands+off+my+medicare
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:13pmI do not care if they take medicare from me, or my ss-from my husband as his widow. I would give every bit of it up so my kids, grandkids, and great grandkids have the country I grew up in. I remember my dad paying the dr directly, and paying hospital bills from his savings. He was a carpenter, but he thought ahead to his own retirement and died solvent at age 95. This country has for far to long looked for the government to “fix” everything, it’s time for a major re-do and get back on the path of personal independance. Only the very sickest and those really unable to work should have help from the government-and only if no family or local groups can’t do it. We are our brothers keepers, not the government. Reform the tort system and we can afford to pay a lot of our own bills with the purchase of our won insurance. Medicare doesn’t do much to help the drs, and in turn the patients. It’s not exactly a perfect system.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:21pm@betterinformed
Oh how easily you forget that Ryan voted for the social welfare program known as part D, that he voted for tarp, also known as the bank bailout. All these programs along with tax cuts that he voted for added trillions to the deficit, so think about that before spewing your save the children garbage.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:27pmThat’s noble of you Jenny, but most of the tea party would love to hold on to their own version of welfare, and yes medicare is welfare. The hypocrisy of the tea party amazes me, wanting to get rid off other people’s entitlements but not their own.
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:05pmActually ANTI, it is only welfare if the seniors receiving it didn’t pay taxes into the system like the 50% of the pop that currently doesn’t…the folks on food stamps and those receiving welfare should be the ones cut off, as they pay no taxes and the vast majority NEVER have…this comes from a father of 3 that has made it a point not to take ANY government handouts yet only makes 25k a year…10 THOUSAND A YEAR UNDER THE POVERTY LINE. Take your trolling else way moron.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:15pm@used
Report Post »You are kidding yourself if you think medicare is not welfare, yes, you pay into it, but you get so much more back. There is no free market equivalent to medicare, you really think that the reason why that is is because medicare is such an efficient system?
sWampy
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 5:00pmIt wasn’t designed to be welfare, till the evil liberals sob’s figured out they could use it to buy votes by expanding it, and expanding it, and expanding it until the point where it’s unsalvageable. Now that it’s broke, they want to cry scream and name call like 3rd grade school girls every times republican tell them to put on your big girl panties and let’s work together to fix your screw up.
Report Post »SidneyDave
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 6:22pmHow do you avoid paying Social Security and Medicare taxes. They have always taken them directly out of my paycheck. Look at your W-2′s, but you don’t get W-2′s from welfare payments. Remember why Social Security and Medicare was started. It was a program to supplement our income after we retire or supplement surviving spouses income to help with supporting children.
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 6:51pmYes, ANTI, the way liberals (and left leaning ‘republicans’ like GW) have bloated the program it looks a lot like welfare…the point I was making is that the programs that folks have actually paid into should be defended until every last program that helps the lazy and unproductive has been slashed to bear bones…those small government seniors that would argue over these cuts are simply angry that a system they actually contributed to would be cut back before cutting the hundreds of billions we spend to prop up whores with 7 kids from 7 guys and those lazy ass leeches that get food stamps and welfar checks every month and now (thanks to Obama) no longer ever have to TRY to get a job!
Report Post »Centurian
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 1:51amWhat part of the U.S. Constitution don’t you understand?!
This is the main crux of the problem. The 10th Amendment in the Bill of Rights states:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Nowhere in the Constitution does it state that the Federal government has the right to determine my healthcare coverage, and this includes Medicare and Medicaid.
These issues can be taken up by the states, though. This is what the Tea Party people have been trying to state for the longest time!
How dare people get together and demand that the Federal government follow the United States Constitution! How insane can this be?!
Please stop… you’re showing your ignorance…
Report Post »www.TopTheNews.com
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:49pmHow does she even have a show??? Has anyone ever said to someone else, “hey did you catch Rachel Maddow?”
Report Post »Ponyexpress
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:47pmAnd you have this S**t for brains on your web site because?
Report Post »You need to stop giving fools like Maddow a platform. Nobody listens to her anyway.Why do you legitimize her?
jcasos
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:03pmI can definitely see where you’re coming from; however, I battled back and forth to determine whether or not I like to hear from clueless people like Maddow or whether or not we should just ignore it. I came to the conclusion that it is much better to hear this than turn a blind-eye to it. I try to faithfully convince people of the country’s ways and means. About how social justice is complete injustice. You see, the little people, us, are the ones to convince our neighbors. The more we have to point to this incompetent babble from Maddow, the more evidence we have. Sometimes showing people the future isn’t going to convince them….sometimes they have to be made the fool. And if they want to follow a fool, then they should be put to experience the country they want.
Notice how people who want higher taxes never offer them up themselves. People who want people out of their wombs decide they want the government in everybody’s business. People who want justice for gay marriage want to force ministers to marry them. Every step of the way, there is a contradiction to their ways. Sometimes that contradiction isn’t very evident, however this is one way to make sure we at least have a log.
Just my 2C
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:43pmKeep it up, Rach; even people on your side/your network are seeing the fool that you are. LOL!!
Report Post »papatom48
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:42pmRachel madcow and her socialist buddies in the democratic party are completely totally insane. They want the folks to be too stupid to understand their lies are lies. They do this all the time…..construct a straw man argument or credit republicans with saying something they did not say, and then criticize them for it. The last few days, I have been wondering what dark and remote place they have their heads when speaking about raising the taxes of the middle class, when the Ryan plan calls for a revenue nuetral plan. Now I know. They made up stuff and then lied about what Romney and Ryan want to do. Pathetic and unconscionable. Hold on America, help is on the way!!!!!!!
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:41pmRachel Maddow is a mouthpiece for the communist party. Americans are waking up … thus the low ratings of MSNBC.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:39pmMr. Lowry should know better than to wage a battle of wits against an unarmed, pre-pubescent boy. I mean “opponent”.
Report Post »cristo52
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:38pmBoy, working at MSNBC, where she’s the smartest queen on the block, is really affecting her. She really got her nose out of joint, waving her hands in Lowry’s face like a silly school girl. She ought to dump that show and get a real gig in real journalism, she’s smart enough, and certainly has enough opinions. Or maybe she likes the torture of daily TV. She’d be a good catch for CNN and compared to Candy Crowley, Wolf Blitzer and John king, Madow would be a beacon in that ever darkening desert of doom.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:05pmCURRENT TV desperately wants the Madcow
Report Post »THIS is officially from Dingbat Harriet.
v15
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:37pmRachel Maddow is as bright as a wet match in a dark cave.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:37pmReganomics worked, and worked great, that is why the liberals 30 year later, still call it names every chance, it’s as bad as Mccarthyism history has shown he was correct in all he was saying, liberals called him names, and now his name means conspiracy theory nut-job instead of the hero he should be considered.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:33pmObviously, Maddow is insane and/or a drug addict – she never makes any sense.
Report Post »Larry E
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:30pmMs Madcow is another perfect example of a progresso-commie who has no clue about economics or much of anything else.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:30pmDon’t confuse the issue with facts! Lise Madcow once again stuck her big foot in her even bigger mouth. To paraphrase Bugs Bunny “What a maroon”!
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 5:45pmI love Bugs!!
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