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Radical Islamic Group: We Will ‘Make As Much Noise As Possible’ During 9/11 Moment of Silence

Muslims Against Crusades Plans 9/11 London Protest Against America

A screen shot from the Muslims Against Crusades web site

On the tenth anniversary of the September 11 attacks, a radical Islamic group hopes to “expose the crimes of the American government,” while showcasing its opinion that the U.S. has lost its battle against terrorism.

The group, Muslims Against Crusades (MAC), plans to purposefully disrupt a commemorative 9/11 ceremony. Participants pledge to make as much noise as possible during a planned moment of silence that will be held outside the U.S. Embassy of London next weekend.

The group will be joined by another radical enterprise — Sharia 4 America. According to Beliefnet, MAC “…calls the 19 hijackers ‘martyrs.’” The group’s spokesperson, Anjem Choudary, says:

“We will be holding a big demonstration and it’s going to begin at the time the first plane hit the building – when everybody is holding their minute’s silence.

“We will be very noisy during that time. It will be to expose the crimes of the American government over the past ten years and showing how they have failed.

He continued:

“They have lost the war against terror. All of their concepts of freedom and democracy have been run roughshod over and been replaced with extraordinary rendition and policies which mean people don’t have rights any more.”

The demonstration is called, “You Lost the War.” A release, posted on MAC’s web site, takes a swipe at the mounting U.S. debt. It reads:

With over $14 trillion in debt the US economy is now on a life support machine; its military is caught in a gruelling war of attrition that the majority of analysts regard as unwinnable; on all fronts the US government is indeed facing defeat as the daunting spectre of death draws closer and closer.

…On September 11 2011, as people across the world fall silent and reflect on the unforgettable moments that took place at 8:46am and 9:03am ten years ago, Muslims will stand united outside the US embassy in the heart of London, to declare that they have been defeated – that the US has indeed lost the war.

Regardless of how the group views U.S. policy, any regard for the respect of life would call for compassion for those individuals — be they American or not — who were violently murdered en masse.

Muslims Against Crusades Plans 9/11 London Protest Against America

Instead, MAC and its adherents plan to praise the tragic actions that unfolded nearly 10 years ago. Then again, we should’t be surprised. This is the same group that waged an Islamic law campaign and disrupted British Veterans’ Day last year. Par for the course.

(h/t Beliefnet)

Comments (548)

  • Al J Zira
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:13pm

    You’re holding back. Tell us gow you really feel.

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  • jessieH
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:12pm

    Great! That makes it easier to shoot the bastards. It’s great that they are pointing out the targets for us. We need to show these nutjobs that they can’t come into our neighborhood and start trouble. Blast the group with super soakers full of pig’s blood. Then shoot them. Problem solved!

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    • mikenleeds
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:17pm

      locked and loaded

      Report Post » mikenleeds  
    • Old Truckers
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:42pm

      This sounds like a solution, but we all know this will not happen.

      Report Post » Old Truckers  
    • banjarmon
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:52pm

      Good Idea…There are a few wild hogs around here where we can get the blood and chum to fill balloons!!

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    • bobbyjoe
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:13pm

      Got lots of 00 waiting for them to show their faces

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:16pm

      How much napalm do we have stockpiled.
      If a tree falls in london do we hear it in NY?
      Hope no local sand monkeys try anything stupid

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    • db321
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:21pm

      I smell an Ass Kicking Coming – Now we know why the Mayor did not want First Responders at the Memorial.

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    • swalt
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 3:55pm

      I forsee a new Crusade coming. This time it will be worldwide. It will be a long, bloody fight. Good versus evil. Dark fighting the light. Light always prevails.

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    • 4THGENVET
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:20pm

      When (yes, I’m saying when) this happens on American soil my hope is that WE will wake up and not allow this to happen ever again. If we do, shame on us.

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    • Veritas
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:52pm

      I was just thinking the same thing. At the very least, show them the door! If they don’t like us, then they can GTFO!!

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  • AB5r
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:12pm

    Hate to say it but they are right! What will Americans and other Westerners be doing on the 9/11 anniversary? They will be engaging in maudlin treacly “remembrances” for those lost, which would be fine if why they were lost was faced, but instead it will be said they were lost due to a “tragedy” as if what happened were some sort of accident or act of God instead of what it was, a direct in your face attack by Muslims in the name of Islam in the form of Jihad. Don’t allow yourself to be sucked into feeling sentimental and maudlin, that only weakens you for the battle that we face. We must as a society at some point face up to what we are fighting and deal directly with that. The Muslims who will be celebrating on 9/11 are screaming in your face and you refuse to accept what they are saying, instead you dismiss them as callous to those you are “remembering” who were “lost” in the “tragedy.” All of the people lost on 9/11, and all of the soldiers lost since then trying to “democratize” Islam, will be lost in vain if our society does not learn the lesson of all of this, which is that Islam is the problem, we cannot fix what is wrong with Islam, we can not democratize Islam, we can only save ourselves by not allowing Islam to spread in the West.

    AB5r  
    • NHwinter
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:23pm

      I think the majority of Americans understand what they did and are trying to do. Its the Obama administration the sympathizes and cajoles the terrorists. Obama’s famous words “ he will always stand with the muslims”. If Obama is re-elected, we will be in for extremely devasting times.

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    • AB5r
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:30pm

      It isn’t just Obama, it was Bush as well, and it is 99.99% of the media, academia, everyone. Even our Christian leaders are largely silent regarding the threat of Islam. The West is doomed, we have already died, there is no hope. We will go to the bitter end engaging in sentimental hand wringing and never seriously resisting the full Islamization of the West. 9/11 ceremonies should include some speakers who are OUTRAGED at Islam and say it loud and clear with no apologies and with DEMANDS for our government and people to end the spread of Islam in the West. We both know we won’t see that IN OUR LIFETIME. Future generations will curse us to Hell for having allowed Islam to spread here, EVEN AFTER 9/11, EVEN AS WE WERE ALIVE DURING 9/11.

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:25pm

      AB5R

      “The West is doomed, we have already died, there is no hope”.
      You may go slowly into the night and cry yourself to sleep. I like many of my fellow Americans refuse. You are weak we are not.

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    • AB5r
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:54pm

      GBMBulletsSKNRD, yeah right you clown, read my post and you would have to be a true moron, someone with a sub 65 IQ to think that I am crying over this. Do you even know what treacly or maudlin means? Read my entire post and try refuting something other than that one sentence you copied. For your information, you standing alone on your back porch thinking that you can save our civilization from Islamization by thinking in your own head that you will shoot someone who comes on your property won’t save us. It is the whole group of us, our civilization, that must collectively not allow Islam to destroy us, but we have already decided that we will allow that, we are in the process of allowing that.

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    • YellowFin
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 4:47pm

      AB5R,

      I agree with your reasoning on this matter, On this you are a clear thinker.

      On this page oldtrucker said; Acceptance of evil will eventually consume the tolerant. I agree with him also.

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  • Ella
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:12pm

    I’m a little unclear about what these murderers mean about making a lot of noise. I’m thinking maybe they will be blowing something up, hopefully including themselves.

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  • mrqstixx
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:11pm

    abc…………………….

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  • trolltrainer
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:11pm

    I love cyber-warriors!

    I’m gonna cyber-kick your azz…

    Reign in your anger, it only makes you look stupid! They are trying to provoke a response and you oblige them. Stand strong for what is right, they cannot win. They know that, that is why they make noise and murder innocents.

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  • raderby
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:10pm

    do you moppet heads actually think knocking a couple of buildings down, murdering 3000 innocent civilians 10 years ago, and generally being insane means you have won any war? Guess again. You already lost. The bodies‘ death just hasn’t reached your sub-primate brain yet.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:24pm

      Can Anyone finance my trip to New york on 911?

      I will make sure to contact Anjem Choudary in person. We will exchange “ideas”.
      We can “tackle” issues. We can “kick” around some solutions to our problems. We can “beat” this problem head on. We can finally put this issue to “rest”

      Anyone ??? :p

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:40pm

      Anjum calls the crusaders Americans, although it was the Military / Industrial Complex that has been Invading the middle-east with neo-cons for decades. He is correct on that. 911 was payback, for the fact that America does control a majority this Military Machine. So I don’t not loathe the Muslims for hitting back.
      I DO dislike Muslims because of their worldwide caliphate Ideology.
      I also think disrespecting our ceremony is an outrage, and the group should be introduced, formally, to such a perspective.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:52pm

      I just saw it was the embassy in London.
      The English defense league will be there, to voice opposition.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVBNVEAAC8Q

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    • YepImaConservative
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:37pm

      I have to laugh at the Ron Paul supporters who use the Guido Fawkes avatar. Hmmmm, telling.

      Report Post » YepImaConservative  
    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:52pm

      lol. yes. I am a deliberate man. Your socialist representation of the Military industrial Complex is also telling. That Artist’s rendition of America, or our government, is Communistic in nature, the artist was, more than likely a progressive warmongering, neo-con. I change my avatar to suit my mood. I was in the mood to be representative of what I bet, Most Global elitists have recurring Nightmares about. Is that a problem ???

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    • db321
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:57pm

      Sounds like you have a good solution to the Problem – ProblemSolver – Got to go – I just got bit by an ant – I am going to spend the rest of my life trying to find the one that bit me and kill it.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:24pm

      I see your avatar is a steer. Probably representative of some irrelevant college sports team or your I.Q. Probably the latter. Where Do I state in any of my posts, that I am going to kill someone ? lol. get out of here !!!!

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:36pm

      Yes Steer brain. you proved my point exactly. That is exactly what Bush and The Military / Industrial Complex did. Went on a ten year “ant” killing spree because of a bite in New York.
      Maybe because we were standing on their middle-east mound for about 60 years !!
      Thank you for affirming my point. Well done !!!
      I guess you are not worthless, after all !

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:43pm

      Waiting for an Intellectual retort from angry communist warmonger dude or Cow brain or anyone else who wants to debate the facts !!!!

      TEA !!!!

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:10pm

    The nail that sticks out gets hit

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    • devildog6432
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:14pm

      Nice.

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    • Patrick in AZ
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:17pm

      Firetrucks with purple dye in the water tanks should be sent to these demonstrations – all participants should be tagged with the dye, and then every time a purple person is found, they should be shot.

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    • GABOB
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:06pm

      @pat in az

      I was thinking more like pig blood, pork fat, etc.

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  • woodyenglish
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:09pm

    Those that wish to be angry and full of hatred will live a life full of this, and those that live in a life filled with kindness and caring will live in a life full of this. It’s a simple conscious choice.

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 7:48pm

      WOODYENGLISH,
      No. You are wrong. The Jews in their ghettos all over the Europe of WWII were good, kind, decent people. They were so good that they did not comprehend the pure EVIL that would destroy them!

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  • Furrystoat
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:08pm

    Until we see muslims worldwide holding massive rallies against islamofascism, muslim leaders starting a reformation movement in islam which specifically expunges and repudiates shariah law, muslim men developing an interest in treating women like human beings and American muslims holding massive rallies in support of America and rejecting the Ground Zero Mosque as an affront to all humanity then there’s really no point in picking out one violent violent group a labeling them as being “radical”, is there?

    Until massive, sweeping changes are made within islam it’s just a matter of some muslims being slightly more docile, for the moment, than others.

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  • mrqstixx
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:08pm

    Where’s Whoopie and Joy on this subject.

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  • bullcrapbuster
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:07pm

    scam

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  • Give_heed
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:06pm

    This comes as no surprise but the downside of it all they will get away with it—disturbing the peace does not apply in the case of Islamism.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 4:20pm

      They are living in rat holes and we lost! If thats winning you can keep it.
      Make all the noise you want – thats all you got – blowhards – mother of all wars etc etc etc.

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  • raderby
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:06pm

    how about we make some noise that sounds a lot like 7.62 zeroing in on you enemies of the USA? Would you like that, o member of the religion of peace?

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  • Hanny
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:05pm

    Yet the mention of any terrorist group is prohibited. I would be surprised if they actually showed up to ground zero. If they do….it’s going to get ugly.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:10pm

      Round them up, arrest them, then send them back to “their” country. Get them out of “our” country. I hope the crowd beats the crap out of them.

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    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:17pm

      Re-read the story: This demonstration will be in London. That character that is quoted is a British citizen.

      I sure would hate to hear that anything bad happened to him and his buddies……………..

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    • Hanny
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:20pm

      You know…I wonder if this is the reason they are not letting just anyone attend this time. They already knew this was happenin. They’re going to get beat up for sure if they show up.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:21pm

      Did either of you two actually read beyond the headline?

      The protest is in London.

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:34pm

      Let the games begin!

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    • Hanny
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Sorry for misreading….I knew there was going to be protests in London. They protest there because they don’t have the guts to do so here……as I said in my first comment, they wouldn’t actually show up.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:05pm

    Hey I got a better idea, lets hold a pig roast where they plan to demonstrate.

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    • meddlehead
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 6:48pm

      I’ll bring the booze. Anybody wanna spring for a few strippers?

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  • thecrow
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:04pm

    Hate-mongering propaganda.

    Time for the truth.

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2011/07/30/truth-crushed-to-earth-shall-rise/

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  • sweathog1948
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:04pm

    These radical Muslims have no compassion for the families of those who died on 9/11. I hope theyare locked up and the keys are thrown away.
    I do not know what the laws say about this but I hope they get the maximum penality for this,export them would be the best. They hate our country so much kick them out, wedon’t need them nor want them in our great country.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:10pm

      @sweathog1948 ~~~ You could have stopped with, “These radical muslimes (sic) have no compassion…”
      You did nail it though with your comments. Thank you!

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:34pm

      I’d much rather see the perpetrators of 9/11 locked up.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 3:53pm

      You have no compassion for the arabs under american backed dictators who tortured and killed dissidents but gave us cheap oil and muilitary bases. you have no compassion for the iraqis who suffered and died under american sanctions.or for palestinians who get their homes blown up by israelis or who are forced to give their homes to settlers from brooklyn.The world did not start with americans in the twin towers getting attacked though in your hubris and thin skinned hypocrisy that is where you self pitying,self serving false narrative starts. long live the freedom mighting muslims rising up against neo-cons and their proxy dictatorships!

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 4:20pm

      Ruse Error….You’re back. Back to throw your shoes around again. And by the way……
      Clean my beard, woman.

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    • Apple Bite
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 10:42am

      Compassion? Islamic terrorists? Never have those words been in one sentence in any time of history of man. Not public nor in private. Perhaps you’d like to enlighten us, when it has been?

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    • Banter
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 4:43pm

      @rosie…
      I am very late to this party, but I felt compelled to respond. You are the keith olbermann of commenters on this site.

      I have schooled you in the past, others on this site have as well, yet you keep coming back with inane comments with no basis in fact. Please keep commenting, as it would be boring without you.

      Just as reminder, muslim is a cult, not a religion.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:04pm

    Nothing to see, move along move along. These vermin have no power over us and they can make all the noise they want. In fact, the more we video tape them, then we know who the terrorist are and we can arrest them.

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    • christianUSA
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 7:52am

      Opinion: While they are displaying proterrorist rants get video cams out and say terrorist list, black list, and pink slip; if they hate US they can and should get out.

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  • RedMage
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:03pm

    Gosh, I thought we were being told that nobody is trying to defeat America and/or install Sharia Law into every government. Hmmm, and hmmm…..

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  • DMSNC
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:03pm

    And so it begins. Class warfare, race wars, flash mobs and now this.

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    • jlbs
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:05pm

      All thanks to our “Clueless-in-Chief” I really wish that were so. Unfortunately, he is anything but clueless, as he knows he is doing exactly what he has been instructed to do.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:01pm

    Anyone with tasers, please show up and use them unashamedly!

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:00pm

    Make the noise so that you clearly identify yourselves.

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  • thatguymaddow
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:00pm

    These filthy cowards should come to NY and try that.

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    • Furrystoat
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:13pm

      Hopefully they’ll receive a slightly less enthusiastic welcome than the proponents of the Ground Zero Mosque have.

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    • SREGN
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:13pm

      Maybe attendees should bring nightsticks to intimidate the noisemakers. Apparently the DOJ approves that since they dismissed the nbp voter intimidation case.

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    • Oldcarsandguitars
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 10:40pm

      Bloomberg would be happy to have him over for a nice tour of N.Y. and would wellcome him like a brother.

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  • angelcat
    Posted on September 5, 2011 at 11:57am

    Ah yes, those peaceful Muslims who want their mosque near the 9/11 sute to show their respect and communicate their willingness to work together! I hope the police remove those who make the noise immediately. The families of 9/11 victims have suffered enough. They shouldn’t have to suffer this disrespect from members of the group from which the murderers of their loved ones came.

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    • Whirled Peas
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:49pm

      Participants pledge to make as much noise as possible during a planned moment of silence that will be held outside the U.S. Embassy of London next weekend.

      The group will be joined by another radical enterprise — Sharia 4 America.
      *******************************
      Notice that the followers of the Religion of the Pedophile is in LONDON. Why don’t they fly across the pond and pull their stunt at Ground Zero in New York? Cowards! ( Nevermind, they‘re entitlement parasites on the Brit government and can’t get tickets for airfare for the event here) It sucks to be YOU, RoP’ers

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    • watchdog1
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:58pm

      Yeah Devildog, I was a Marine too, but I have to say I never came to fully appreciate the type of language you use, however, that doesn‘t mean I don’t completely agree with your sentiment, I do, but your opinion carries a lot more weight if it sounds like it comes from an intelligent source….but I’m not your mama…..so whatever.

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    • watchdog1
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:14pm

      Dream on, do you REALLY THINK Bloomberg is going to allow anyone to respond to those butt monkeys?
      He** no, he wants us to all be respectful and tolerant to the Muslims in the name of Religious freedom, of course he won’t allow any prayer, or hateful, Islamaphobic phrases like terrorist, Jihad, Al Qaida, or anything like that. Have you seen the hundreds of Muslims who go out and block traffic in NY on some of the busiest streets to do their prayers 5 times a day or however many times they feel the need to exhibit how easily they can force us to bow down and kiss their hairy a**es. I offered my life for this country when idiots like Bloomberg were hiding in Universities to avoid going to war, I understand where Devildog is coming from, it hurts when you put your life on the line for what you believe in, then come home to find fellow Americans just freely handing over the very rights and freedom we fought for without a care.. I have always been a patriot, I had a grandfather who was a friend and fellow officer of George Washington, fought beside him at Valley Forge, I have always felt I had a huge stake in this country, I was always so proud, not so much anymore, I am beginning to doubt if the effort is worthwhile anymore…..I am having a crisis of American faith and patriotism…..

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    • jlbs
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:00pm

      @ watchdog: I, too, feel hopelessness from one minute to the next. But there are a lot more minutes in between when I know God will see us through this. My faith and patriotism will not waver, and I pray for that daily, as well. I love this country and, although I did not serve (almost joined the Navy Reserves, but had patriotic children to raise [ two have served }), I vow I will do whatever it takes to return freedom and liberty to this country. I pray that people will open their eyes and see that this president and his cronies are our enemy #1 and he must be defeated in the next election. It’s so important that we do our homework and select the right candidate and not listen to the likes of Colin Powell as in the last election.

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    • Middle Finger
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:22pm

      God has annointed a new Saint for this event. His name is St. Knuckles of Manhattan. Mourners and pilgrims, that saint is you. The time of the nice guy has passed. It is not a sin to defend yourself.

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    • Wayne
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 10:32am

      There is no such thing as a peace loveing muslim. one only has to read the Quran every thing in it is hate against everyone who is not of muslim faith. we should not allow these people in the USA. All the wars that is being fought are have been in the last 20 yrs are Muslims. every country in the world that is under Muslim control is at war. that is not peace loving.

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