‘Raping Their Innocence’: Parents Outraged After School Principal Allegedly Teaches 5th Graders About Oral & Anal Sex
- Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:21pm by
Billy Hallowell
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A disturbing story is making its way out of a small community in Washington State, where residents are outraged over a school lesson that was delivered to fifth-grade children. During a sex education class led by the Onalaska Elementary School principal, graphic descriptions of oral and anal sex were purportedly delivered.
According to Fox News’ Todd Starnes, the 11-year-old students were being given a lesson on HIV-AIDS. However, the lesson took a bizarre turn when a student reportedly asked about other forms of sexual activity. At that point, the principal then delved into subjects many would deem too advanced for the children.
While the school hasn’t offered comment, Superintendent Scott Fenter defended the principal’s actions, claiming that she only gave “factual information” and “no demonstrations.“ Fenter also claims that the lessons that were offered came from ”state-adopted curriculum.”
“In reality, she stuck to the curriculum,” the district leader told Seattle’s Q-13 Fox News. “It’s pretty difficult to talk about STDs or sexually transmitted diseases without explaining what that is, or how it’s transmitted.”
Parents are reacting harshly to the lesson, though, claiming that the principal went too far.
“I’m one pissed off cowboy, I didn’t appreciate them teaching my daughter – who is innocent of that – at all,” James Gilliand said in an interview with Starnes.
“Basically, how I feel is, it’s just the same as raping somebody, but you’re raping their innocence instead of their physical being,” he added in the Q-13 appearance.
Another parent, Curtis Pannkuk, believes that the curriculum must be changed. Echoing Gilliand’s declarations, he said, “children were traumatized.”
Starns provides the graphic details of what the parents claim their children heard in the classroom:
“You take a man’s penis and you put it in your mouth – that’s what the girls do to the boys,” their daughter told the couple. “The boys spread the girls legs apart and put their mouths down on the vaginas.”
Pannkuk said he became enraged as his 11-year-old daughter recounted what the principal had told the classroom.
“Steam was coming out my ears,” he said. “I was very, very upset. I understand that they need to teach these kids sex education – but 11-year-olds? I have a problem with that. The wife and I were very – very upset.”
Gilliland said another child explained to their parents that it “was basically like a lollipop.”
Read more about the traumatic story, here.
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lketchum
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:01pmWhen I was dirt poor and a soldier, I’d eat either saltines, or nothing at all in order to keep my kids in private school. I’d rejoice when I went into the field, as I could eat and I’d save every scrap of packaged field rations to finish off later on.
The kids all went to private schools and mom stayed at home to be with them.
That’s how it works. Dad’s do their duty and die young, but the next generation has a leg up and may have it easier. It doesn’t always work, but one does have to give it their all. “Look good, lead from the front, and die well.”
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:08pmHappy Fathers day a little early. You sound like a darn good one.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:11pmGod bless you for your commitment to give your kids a good education, not what these liberals are trying to push onto our kids now.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:30pmThank you for being the right kind of father – the one who will sacrifice his life for his children’s well-being. Unfortunately, many fathers are not like this. My son’s father left me for another woman and I had to raise him alone, sending him to public school was the only thing I could do. I commend you for sticking by your children to give them the best you could.
Report Post »Born2Run
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:41pmAwesome post!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:42pmI agree, great Fathers make all the difference. WASHINGTON STATE: The State that provides ILLEGAL ALIENS with $ 350,000 townhomes and they pay the MAINTENANCE!! The Monthly fees; for ILLEGALS!! How insane are those people??? I’m not surprised they allow their teachers to breech this trust between Parents/Teachers…but who is to blame? THE PARENTS who do not get involved in the school board, letting these LIBERAL, COMMUNISTIC, MARXISTS, LEFT WING NUT CASES control our schools who control our kids who control the next generation.
Report Post »Maybe I’m totally naive but I thought that courses like this had to have Parental Signatures!!! Sounds like you WASHINGTON STATE FOLKS need to oust your Teacher’s Unions and for the Parents to get back into control. I wonder if any of those bleeding heart, lame-brained, one-note-Liberals ever thought of sending letters to the parents discussing the problems with STD’s and suggesting THEY, THE PARENTS, have this conversation as THEY saw fit??? No, of course not. THOSE DOPEY LIBERALS think people MUST BE TOLD how to act, what to eat, what to think. I can’t stand dealing with them…it takes all the patience I have and then I have to have a day off to regoup.
SureYaDo
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:47pmThis was the best comment I have ever read here.
Report Post »lovemyfamily
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:11pmYou are so right, my daughter spent 1 year in public school and when she left 1st grade she couldn’t even say her alphabet. So the following year we held her back and put her in a private christian school. My wife and i work 4 jobs between us to make sure are daughter never steps foot in public school again. And the sad thing is i am the maintenance director for the school district, but i know my days are numbered as i am a conservative, can’t hardly stand it anymore.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:35pmForgive me ladies and gentleman but you’re all ignoring the elephant in the room…”HIV-AIDS”.
Report Post »The left along with their militant homosexual allies have been insinuating the homosexual lifestyle on our children at younger and younger ages. This is part of their plan to make homosexuality “normal”. They know they’ve lost the adults but a child indoctrinated from an early age will likely remain in favour of homosexuals throughout his or her adult life.
But it doesn’t end there…it’s not just about “acceptance” it’s about getting more and more children thinking about adopting homosexual practices themselves. So you “normalize” it early then get them “experimenting” as soon as possible. Yes..“experimenting” is one of the words these creeps throw around. You’ll recall GLSEN wanted to teach school age children acts like f#sting? This is no coincidence. Homosexuals know their practices are perverse and counter to the well being of the human species so they have to erode resistance to their practices. So teaching 5th graders about an@l sex is part of this plan. They’re trying to normalize it.
Obama’s “Czar of Safe Schools” and stealth pedophile Kevin Jennings is the one opening these doors along with “It Gets Better” and “Bullying” militant homosexual Dan Savage. Jennings founded GLSEN. Jennings is an admirer of Harry Hay..a proponent of NAMBLA.
“Bullying” is the door they used to get the homosexual agenda into our schools.
unsafe
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:38pmI say it pass time to throw these ****** out of our school system and I mean all of them. Parents need to start to take a stand!! enough is enough.Are you all madd enough yet face it there is more of us then them TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!
Report Post »SquareHead
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:00pm@LKETCHUM
I agree. For all of you here that CARE about your kids, TAKE YOUR KIDS OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS NOW. Homeschooling is the ideal choice for most and most economical.
You might have to “sacrifice” not driving a new car, or down size the house you can’t quite afford to have someone stay home with the kids and educate them.
You have only a few years and ONE CHANCE to raise your kids right.
You can either take the time while they are young and KEEP THEM AWAY from public schools away from both from brain washing from the teachers/ curriculum. Not only that but also away from the other unguided children that are even a worse influence.
TAKE CONTROL and your children will grow up with a strong God fearing character, get married with children and continue the cycle that made this nation great
LEAVE IT TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, & PEARS, and they will loose their childhood, have STD’s before they are 15, they will be tatooed and with a fact that looked like it fell in a tackle box. They will believe that homosexuality in noble and random hookups, is a hobby. They will feel entitled, as though the government is there to be the parent. They will learn about recycling and global warming and how the world would be better of if 80% of people died, and we ran out of petroleum.
Think about it they are spending 30hrs plus in schools, compare to the 2hr in church and 6 hrs at most engaged with you as a parent!
http://indoctrinationm
Report Post »TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:08pmExactly, if you give the government your children you will never get them back.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:20pmlketchum
Amen to your comments. I am in the Army, and my wife and I decided early on that our girls will never see so much as a day of public school. We do not want their false evolution, their multiculturalism, their lack of morality, their lack of discipline, and their lack of real education.
We homeschooled the first few years, and then put them in Christain private school. The home school for the first few years has some real bennefits. for one, they lear to be independent, and build a good work ethic. When they do go to school, they are not looking for leadership from the kids to the left and the right, and are able to stand alone and do what is right.
My 12 year old just finished 9th grade (she skipped multiple grades). Just recently we ran into her science teacher, and it was a real treat to hear him talk about my daughter. He did not brag so much on her academic ability at such a young age. What impressed him was her knowledge of right and wrong, and self discipline to do what is right, even when it is not popular, or not what the crowd is doing.
We live in a nation where doing what is right is getting very unpopular. Sometimes it feels a little strange to teach young girls that oneday in the future, standing up for what is right, may get you killed or tortured. Even if the cost is that high, we want children that would rather stand on truth, and die, then to be wrong and live. Many might think that odd, but if you study the early christians,
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:27pmKeep your JUNK out of places it doesn‘t belong and you don’t
Report Post »have to worry about HIV-AIDS.. GOOD GAWD !!! Kids don’t
know American History, Math or how to write, but these Liberals
teach this CRAP before kids get out of Grade School…..WTF ???
godlovinmom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:46pmLKETCHUM…Agree…but…homeschooling is the best option if you can possibly do it…seriously this crap goes on in EVERY school…in some form or another…if not from the teachers themselves….kids today will teach your kid all about it.. teaching anyone about SODOMY is just….GROSS!
Report Post »1959
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:46pmJust a word of caution for parents with younger children out there who are considering private or private Christian schools: Please don’t completely trust the school you choose for your child without watching like a hawk. The “raping of innocence” experience happened at our daughter’s former school (Episcopal). I cannot repeat here some of the things my daughter heard and saw in the class room. One new teacher (from a very liberal part of the country) was a very sick individual and after speaking with the headmaster of the school about the issues going on in the classroom, the headmaster sided with the sicko teacher only because not many others complained. Needless to say we pulled our daughter out of the school. Home school worked for us.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:57pmPATTY….I lived in Lewiston Idaho which borders Clarkston Washington, I do know all the welfare recipients moved over to Washingtonto get more money….which means Nanny State!….take care of me and my kids and you can teach them anything you want…pathetic people/parents.
Report Post »shadisadie
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:05pmYou are a dad to look up to and emulate..Too bad more dads aren’t like you…I’m over the hill now, but if I had to raise children today, they sure in the heck would NOT go to public school…if you want your kids to be indoctrinated, taught revisionist history that has nothing to do with the truth, have them never experience the joy of winning, or being the best, never allow them to EARN self confidence and self esteem…then by all means send them to a public school: where the PRINCIPLE!! teaches oral and anal sex to 5th and 6th graders
Report Post »BlessedONE333
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:20pm70% of all households do not have the real biological father living there.
you beat the odds. I only wish there were more dads/husbands like you
sadly =- you are a dying breed
Report Post »BlessedONE333
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:23pm@SquareHead that’s a stupid statement – and I am really sort of sick of people ranting about public schools VS private schools
most parents today are single family households = they don’t have the money to send their kids to private schools – what we SHOULD BE DOING is FIXING THE PUBLIC – TAX PAYER – SCHOOLS
IT’S YOUR MONEY – YOUR SCHOOL!
Report Post »svan71
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:25pmWow..lump in my throat…a good life is one lived in sacrifice to others.
Report Post »americanfirst
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:41pmA Fathers Day resolution.
THE RESOLUTION
I DO solemnly resolve before God to take full responsibility for myself, my wife, and my children.
I WILL love them, protect them, serve them, and teach them the Word of God as the spiritual leader of my home.
I WILL be faithful to my wife, to love and honor her, and be willing to lay down my life for her as Jesus Christ did for me.
I WILL bless my children and teach them to love God with all of their hearts, all of their minds, and all of their strength.
I WILL train them to honor authority and live responsibly.
I WILL confront evil, pursue justice, and love mercy.
I WILL pray for others and treat them with kindness, respect, and compassion.
I WILL work diligently to provide for the needs of my family.
I WILL forgive those who have wronged me and reconcile with those I have wronged.
I WILL learn from my mistakes, repent of my sins, and walk with integrity as a man answerable to God.
I WILL seek to honor God, be faithful to His church, obey His Word, and do His will.
I WILL courageously work with the strength God provides to fulfill this resolution for the rest of my life and for His glory.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. —Joshua 24:15
Report Post »as_mad_as_hell
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:21pmOne word: “vouchers”!!!!!
Report Post »Michelle44
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:13pmI too went to private school, and I sent my daughter 6 yrs, and my son one year,, Things have changed since I have went to a private school,, seriously,, the school isn’t as it used to be. Like all things they change, and sometimes not for the better.. I wanted that good foundation of Religion, and a belief in GOD installed into mychildren,, they did get that, but religion wasn’t a priority after the third grade.. I had catholic studies everyday when I attended school.
Report Post »Not to change the subject, but I received sex ed, iin the 6th grade, and didn’t learn anything about this stuff,.. I would be outraged as well. I would think I would have to sue over this,,if at all possible all the parents should get a Blood thirsty lawyer and sue the school district.. Most classes have to have a curriculum, and have parents signatures for what is taught,, I would look into this and see what could be done,,
hotteamakers
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:03pmThere Isn’t Anything The Parents Can Do
The school will find any openly Gay Judge who who will rule that the school has the right to do it. Soon porno-stars will be going to the schools and demonstrate for the children. As long as the children use condoms its OK. See, child sex is one of the Leftist Liberal sacraments and having sex with children is a US Constitutional right. The school just wants to get the kids use to the idea so when it happens they will not panic. What do people think the “end of the world” was really all about.
Its really time for violence, are your children worth it?
Report Post »hotteamakers
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:05pmIts time for fight people of America, its time to fight. Remember that when it starts do not take prisoners. We will not take prisoners.
Report Post »hotteamakers
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:12pmMy father and I have had too many saltines in our lives that we hate them. My father died young from work but his sacrifice kept me living longer. Maybe God has given me a longer life so I can spend it to defend our people and lead them to victory against our Government. It is time America, it is time. Do not remain in your state of denial.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:44pmIn about 4 hours JZS will come online in the middle of the night. He will proceed to shoot and scoot.
Well what else can he do? When you are defending the indefensible shoot & scoot is a strategy.
Report Post »hotteamakers
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:40pmTO: AMERICANFIRST and others
I see something missing from your list. A pledge to die for what you believe. Do you expect to remain FREE by sitting back and letting others try to fight your fight? You must be willing to defend your faith, your loved ones, and your freedom with your life. The great symbol of Evil on Earth, Adolph Hitler is quoted as stating in one of his speeches, “he who will not fight does not deserve to live.” Do you know what that means. In the heart of every tyrant is those sentiments. Are you willing to join to protect and defend our Freedom and Liberty? The Federal Government is not going to relent. Your Congress is not going to admit wrong doing, governments never do this.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:48pm@RangerP Again you come of as potentially intelligent yet you choose to be a complete Dolt!! “We do not want their false evolution, their multiculturalism..” I don’t have a problem with the fact you homeschool and I laud raising moral kids… great! But what do you know about evolution?!?! nothing?!? For you to teach your daughter that it is a conspiratory lie is egregious! That is a huuugggee lie!!!! Your daughters sound smart. I’d love to see them progress into the medical and biological field and hand your ass to you on evolution as you try to convince them that their science mentors and professors are just a bunch of evil liberal demons.. Rube!
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:01pm@deeberj
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:30pm
Thank you for being the right kind of father – the one who will sacrifice his life for his children’s well-being. Unfortunately, many fathers are not like this. My son’s father left me for another woman and I had to raise him alone, sending him to public school was the only thing I could do. I commend you for sticking by your children to give them the best you could
Report Post »****
First let me agree on the congratulations for the soldier, if more Dad‘s cared that much we wouldn’t have this kind teaching sex ed in the public schools because the school boards elected by the majority of districts wouldn’t hire them.
Then, may I suggest you check with your state Ohio has a free Online Charter school, I’m told many other states do too. My daughter had the same problem with her husband as you but after 4 kids. When she was having problems with the school she decided to take her twins out and put in the online school and is very glad she did. When 1 of the older sisters was threatened by a group of girls in the high school she enrolled her too. She’s able to schedule their classes around appointments. You might have to have someone oversee your son while you work, but it would be worth it in the long run.
Mil Mom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:10pm@unsafe
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:38pm
I say it pass time to throw these ****** out of our school system and I mean all of them. Parents need to start to take a stand!! enough is enough.Are you all madd enough yet face it there is more of us then them TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!
Report Post »****
I agree, ABOLISHING THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS A GOOD FIRST STEP! Cloning Scott Walker in every State Governor’s office might be a good second!
Independent4233
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:12pmI can just about bet these chidren were not taught that using body parts for sex that are intended for eliminating body wastes spreads diseases and is highly damaging to the human body, as health statisics reveal, causing damage that involves very high incidences of anal cancer, and the spread of anally borne pathogens and parsites.
http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/male-homosexual-behavior/
Report Post »JR71
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:15pmamen to that brother .. have a great fathers day.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:15pmMy husband does whatever it takes (including working two jobs – thank you Obama economy) to make it so I can stay home and homeschool our children. Our children are so far ahead of their peers it is crazy! But the biggest difference is in behavior. I don’t know how parents can expect to be the biggest influence on the behavior and developement of their children when they spend less time with them than the public schools get them. After spending time with my family and others in our church who homeschool, a friend of mine decided to pull her children out of public school and homeschool. This week was their last week at school, and guess what happened on the bus on the way home, her 7 year old daughter was felt up and kissed by a 12 year old boy (who undoubtably just finished his manditory sex classes). Talk about a mom with a broken heart, didn’t get them out of there soon enough. If you love your children, find a way to get them out of those schools!!!!
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:18pmI would flip the f888 out!
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:37pmRecently a Republican canidate called my house and wanted to discuss schools. I told him “I don’t care what you do with the public schools because my children will never attend them, just please stop raising my taxes to pay for them”. He became curious and asked my what I thought was wrong with them and boy did I give him an earfull. He was wanting to do the usually conservative reforms…cutting the unions, cutting adminstration, etc. I told him all that‘s great but it still won’t make a difference in the quality of education at those schools. See here is the problem…as a homeschooling mom, when my child gets a “C” on a test, I say “she must not fully understand the material”. And we go over the entire lesson again, until she GETS it. This is called getting an education. What we do at the schools is graduate students, we do not educate them. This cannot be down in large buildings with large classrooms. Until we take the model that IS working (homeschool / Monessori school) and model our schools after that, you can reform all you want and spend all you want, won’t make a difference. The WHOLE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE SCRAPPED! He sighed and said you know I think you are probably right, but how do we go about doing that? I said “you’re the politician, I’m just a mom”.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:59pmI was shocked to discover a mentor of mine did not allow her teenage daughters to attend “purity week” at our church. So I asked her about it. Since she homeschools her girls, they are not exposed to all this garbage, but this was a church function. She opened my eyes…Hello, there are public school children in our church and at one such event, one of these children asked a question about a sex act that her girls at their young age had no idea what it was. Opened a can of worms they didn’t want opened. All sexual education needs to come from parents. Children develop at different rates. What is appropriate to talk to one 12 year old about, is completely inapropriate for another. Children should be allowed to remain inocent as long as possible. But if you send your children to public school and let them watch cable tv and movies you have not screened, chances are they will not remain inocent for very long. My four year old just discovered that boys have different “special parts”. My friend was shocked that she didn‘t know the propper names and hadn’t been told that earlier. I looked at her and said one word, “why”. I like to keep my children completely inocent as long as possible (and don’t worry, she will know what they are called before she hits High School – LOL)
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 10:46pmI can remember when they had a fit when this was being introduced to high schoolers, then middle schoolers and now outrage finally resting on elementary schoolers being taught about things they do not need to know right now. We’ve lost our minds once again! We see what kind of people who are out there teaching our kids. They think they know whats best!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 10:48pmMaybe its not really about the leg up part but more of setting the example to live by and just be content and happy with what you have. Off topic sorry!
Report Post »RebelPatriot
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 12:26amAs a father of 5 well adjusted children 2 of which are grown, I am certain that they experienced a much better education and experience attending private school.
This kind of sex education crosses the line, it is not the birds and the bees. It is teaching children that the only reason not to have sex is STD’s, but if you use a condom then chances are you won’t catch HIV or another STD.
This is how the progressive socialist have torn our country apart. The have infected the minds of public school children so inherently they no longer see where the line is drawn. Anything goes and anything is possible if you have an interest. This is why the children whose parents aren‘t attentive to their child’s education suffer the worst.
It’s time to do away with federal school education and give it to the states so the citizens of the state can determine what is the best curriculum for the students. At some point a teacher needs to say to children, these things are best discussed with your parents.
Anything above and beyond the birds and the bees needs to be left to parents to explain.
There is a reason you can’t take and 11 year old to an R rated movie. Some subject matter is not appropriate for children. It should be up to the parent to decide when and how to talk of these other topics, not a teacher in the class room.
She could have just as easily have said if you don’t know or understand please discuss with your parents.
Report Post »glassbeadlady
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 12:51amI would not, repeat NOT have my child in a gov. school. Did this give all you parents out there another reason to homeschool your children. God have mercy on our country, we are rotting from the inside out, thanks to gov.
Report Post »GenOptimus
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:29amWOW! Just WOW! My Dad worked as a custodian for over 16 years just so me and my sisters could be home-schooled and not have all this public school crap stuffed into our brain.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 6:01amHappy fathers day. This is all part of the desensitizing of our kids. Its working. Try speaking your mind around the litte mush heads and watch them react. Dont tolerate for 1 second their eye rolls or embarrassment, tell them truth.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 6:06amMy dad never did military service, but both my parents scrimped and saved in order to give us a better chance than they had. My mom came from dirt poor, where grandpa had to shoot game to have meat on the table. Dad came from so poor that they had 13 cents (enough for a loaf of bread at the time), and then the dog stole the bread for her pups. They now own their house free and clear, the lot next to them free and clear (giving them an acre of land), a car and truck free and clear as well as a motor home and boat. When my grandparents were alive, and my parents went from a pop up to a motor home they GAVE the pop up to them. That’s supposed to be our goal, to have our children better off than we are. It can’t happen with the liberals in charge, making our children grow up before they’re ready with teaching like this, or teaching the idea that the government will take care of you. I remember when it was actually shameful to be on government assistance, not a badge of honor.
Report Post »liltexasgal
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:02amThank you!!!
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 8:03amYes, REBELPATRIOT, the teacher should have refered the child to his/her parents.
“… that’s what the girls do to the boys….”
Well, Teach, which girls and boys are those?
11 year old boys and girls?
12 year old boys and girls? 13 year olds? 14 year olds?
I am left speechless by this story.
Report Post »How can even a dumb teacher present specific sexual acts (which have nothing to do with reproduction) in a manner and setting which 11 year olds equate with facts.
“…that’s what the girls do to the boys….”
Joe Thornton
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 9:30amLKetchum, you are part of what makes this country great. Awesome commitment to your family. You and your wife have done right by the country and by your children. Trouble is, behavior like yours is not rewarded while our current entitlement systems reward opposite behaviors. You’ve made my day, though, with your comment. Perhaps the best comment I’ve ever seen. Thanks for your service to our country and your personal service to family.
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:06am@CESIUM
That’s right, I forgot ……. you go to school, don’t you. You go, so you say, to GRADUATE school. You are an intellectual. So, we know you’re not a rube, right. You know all about evolution and the scientific method, right. Tell all of us the last data point that proved the ‘theory’ of evolution. Better yet, when posting try no denigrating others. If you disagree, state your counter-points.
If you’re in grad school, which is doubtful, you must be ace’ing the courses in Alinskyism …… not much else.
Report Post »Bloody Sam
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:08amLKETCHUM, I salute you. You are a man of integrity. And you have iron. There are very few like you left these days.
Report Post »Obamujahadeen
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:45am@lketchum .. Thanks for your service and being a real father. Something the O voter, at least 75% of them know nothing about, including O himself and that’s why he and they NEED government, to be their daddy they never had.
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:53amI’m really suprised that folks in Washington are upset about this. I wonder if they taught anything about normal sex, you know, between a man and a woman? Probably not, people that are for that are “Normal sex extremeist”.
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:56amJust a question, how is it that a grandfather can be kicked out of “Barnes and noble” for shopping for childrens books, (something that they sell in the childrens section), but this teacher can discuss oral and anal sex with children and isn’t arrested?
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:59amDid the principal also discuss that some of these diseases can be contracted by shooting up heroin? If you are going to teach, then teach it all.
Report Post »Kathy1950
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:19pmSir, first I thank you for your service to our country and to say although I don’t know you, I am so proud of the stand you and your wife took as parents against public schools.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 1:34pm@leader.. Courses? I finished my graduate courses about 4 years ago.. I’m finishing my dissertation right now. I’ve spent enough time arguing and presenting evidence in favor of evolution on here.. The only thing that is proved here is your lack of understanding of the concept of “proof” in science. You cannot “prove” anything in science… Germ theory is not “proven.“ Heliocentric theory is not ”proven.” Why don’t you play the devils advocate for yourself and dig deep into the literature and read books to understand evolution. I recommend Daniel Dennets work “Darwins Dangerous Idea” which sites many references. Do you not find it interesting that the head of the NIH Francis Collins is an evangelical christian but has come out publicly to exclaim that he in fact accepts evolution? Why do evangelical christians who are NOT molecular biologists conclude evolution is a lie, yet one of the very very few that is a medical research has come out to ACCEPT evolution is true… He has also written a book trying to spin the existence of a god into compatibility with evolution..
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:12pmthanks. we need more fathers like you.
Report Post »ranchoazulmt
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:18pm@Cesium
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:48pm
@RangerP Again you come of as potentially intelligent yet you choose to be a complete Dolt!! “We do not want their false evolution, their multiculturalism..” I don’t have a problem with the fact you homeschool and I laud raising moral kids… great! But what do you know about evolution?!?! Nothing?!?
In science an idea can be a hypothesis, a theorem, and finally an established fact. Evolution is a theory. Do you get that? It is a theory. That means that it is a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena.
A theory is not a fact in the scientific community. Many of the events, places, and people that surround Jesus can actually be pointed at to prove his existence. Therefore I believe that my house will follow Him instead of Darwin the false god.
Report Post »gperky
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:37pmWhen my daughter came home from school with a note from a male classmate that told her what he wanted to do to her orally, (he had an older brother that helped him write the note) I knew my kids could not go to public school. My wife stayed home to raise our children (4 in total) and I worked as many as 3 jobs to make sure we could keep them in private school. I have never regretted it a day in my life. All are grown and well rounded. We did not depend on the school or governement to teach our children! Sounds like we both made the right choice!
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:26pm@RANCHO “A theory is not a fact in the scientific community.” See this is the EXACT type of BS that really irritates academic scientists.. The public’s brainwashed misunderstanding of the definition of “Theory!“ It is certainly more complex that I will state here but you need to understand that when scientists say ”Evolutionary Theory“ or ”Germ Theory“ they are referring to 1000s of lines of evidence and results that form what we call a ”model.” The model is based on results!! If I tell within the model of “cancer theory” that DNA damage causes p53 phosphorylation in most cases…. THAT IS A FACT! There are 1000s of experiments to show that the statement I just said is true! google it!
the culmination of results that build a theoretical model are based on a number of “facts” that are observed in the result. DARWIN only presented the IDEA for evolution… Since his IDEA.. There are 1000s of lines of evidence both in the macroworld and molecularly since Darwins time that support his preliminary evidence and hypothesis.. Some are molecularly complex and you would need the formal education to understand the FACTS of the evidence! Or you can take the easy way out say.. “duhhh.. all the evidence I need is in this har biblle..”. and the go drink cool aid on the porch basking in your satisfaction of the answer..
Report Post »Sunnyy
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:16pmAmen brother
Report Post »Ded-Bred
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:56pmI think you’re stretching it….probably had a big ol‘ can o’ sardines & some mustard, or some hot sauce,…..spit some troof, pops!!!
Report Post »twill2118
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:33pmI hate to say it , yeah it ticks me off. I never took it at age 14 in school my dad refused to let a school public system no morals teach me that. BUT now a days, it is on kids cell phones, FB pages, other accounts, as well in emails, on web sites they go on and on TV. Most have done or participated in it already. It is no surprise to a point. Most I remember when I worked in the office were by age 15 mother of three or two and pregnant with the next one. It does not matter at what age we try to teach them, scare them of all the std’s now. And not the world health organ. is saying gonarrhea is going to be untreatable before long which is very dangerous and deadly. But do you think it will stop NO. There are so many people into internet porn posting naked pics, meeting, hooking up on road sides, married esp. Sites promoting married people cheat. So yeah at times I do feel they need to learn about sex, but you know religion has been taken out of schools and I prefer my kids have it now they are attacking bible sceens on church property. I have to say when religion was every where we did not have all the violence and crime as bad as now. But again we will all sit back type is and never do nothing about it.
Report Post »Phillip in TX
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 10:43amThis story is one of the reasons my wife and I are home schooling our children. Every parent needs to get their child(ren) the best education possible. You sacrificed so your children could benefit. I salute you. Thank you for your service.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:01pmIf it was in the curriculum, then the parents would have already been notified of such. I was always notified of the syllabus of the “health ed” curriculum at the beginning of the school year. I was always given the option of opting out of any part of it. So I don’t know why any parent is surprised unless it was not in the curriculum and she stepped outside of bounds. I’ve kept my kids out of certain health classes when this stuff was going to be taught. I did have to do some research about specifics also. But if you send your kid to public school you need to pay attention and don’t trust the school to do what is right.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:40pmit wasn’t they werent notified a child asked a question and that was the speech that was in response. I am a local to the area I witnessed many a distraught parent. schools need to stay away from health and sex ed period. when the kids cannot hardly read the focus needs to be on education not health or pe.
Report Post »formidable_foe
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 5:44pmIf I learned a teacher told my child it was “basically like a lollipop,” I would sue them along with the school system. I’m sure a comment like this is not part of any curriculum.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:24pmWhat I find fascinating about this story is “where are all the Ron Paul supporters” saying that Dr. Ron Paul will put a stop to this? He has been described as being able to fix “everything” wrong with the US.
I was in 5th grade in mid-to-late 60′s and had to endure the same thing. It was gross and inappropriate for 5th graders.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 9:27amWhen I went to school sex ed was not taught.That was a parental duty.It was also a parental duty to teach your children.I went to public school and home school of a sort.I was so far ahead of my peers it wasn’t funny.The gap in their lack of education became very apparent in junior high.Not only in the students but the curriculum as well.The socialism and communist goals were also evident.I couldn’t stand it, wouldn’t shut my mouth and do as I was told by the school.[Back then there were more of them than us]I was labeled a trouble maker and sent to special classes.Good old special ed.The place where all the misfits landed.The brilliant the retarded the criminally bent the insane and the emotionly disturbed.All lumped into the same room.Truly I felt as though I were a political prisoner of the Dept of Education.After two meetings with school officals my parents agreed with me.Private school wasn’t an option there were none in my area.Couple months later and an intelligence test they wanted me to go straight to college.By this point they had played so many games with me, I declined
Report Post »Thought it was a set up of some sort.Not the intelligence test [I had two from outside sources that confirmed my brain power.No we didn't trust the school system at all]but a political test of some sort.
My point boiled down is this, if it isn’t sex for an issue ,it will be something else.They are all about power.They will do what they can to keep it.Be on guard and aware at all times.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:36pmI also did not have to endure the sex ed class, and my mother was active in the PTA, was my den mother in cub scouts, helped me with my homework almost daily. This is where we need to get back to, parents, at least one, interested in their childrens education, active with the teachers, ensuring that they are teaaching the right principles, government out of the school system. But, if parents want teachers and schools to just be babysitters for them, and do not care what they are taught as long as they are not in their hair, it will not work. This has been Ron Pauls message all along, it does not matter who you send to Washington, if the people do not start taking great responsibility in their life and family’s lives, liberty will always be just out of reach.
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:58pmare we proud of are teachers union. ????
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:06pmWonderful aren’t they … I would NEVER send my child back to that school .. NEVER .. I think the parents need to get a lawyer and sue the school for the money they receive yearly (and damages) and then send their childen to a good PRIVATE school. I wish I had sued my son’s public school (I did have grounds) but I did pull him out and send him to a Catholic school (no we are not Catholic but they were a wonderful school).
Report Post »marhee9
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:07pmHere’s the real issue for me. Why does the school system have the responsibility of teaching sex to kid of any age??? Unless we get back to parents having responsibility for their kids, we’ll never get out of this entitlement mentality that is destroying this great nation. Schools now have taken over sex, feeding, and political propaganda, any wonder why our kids are failing?
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MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:00pmIf kids need to learn about sex send them to a farm thats where kids used to learned about it not by pedophiles in the classroom.
Report Post »MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:02pmNext they will be showing proper use of drugs.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 9:29am@marhee9
Report Post »I couldn’t agree more.
PlaneDoc
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:56pmIf this is what they refer to as “their accepted curriculum” then print it all on the front page of the city newspapers and put the names of those who accepted it right at the bottom of the article. If you can’t say it to your mother or in front of your church , then it probably shouldn’t be said TO A BUNCH OF 11 YEAR-OLDS. Liberals have NO shame !!! Why in the hell is sex-ed in their curriculum for fifth grade? Didn’t it used to be health class to teach kids about what is happening to THEIR bodies, not what they can do to each other. Of course the sooner libs can get their daughters active, the quicker they can promote “planned abortions” (parenthood). Why can’t liberals teach their kids to respect themselves and others. I wonder when we will hear the POTUS say “if i had a son , he would have asked that question”
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:08pmI’m in utter amazement. I cannot possibly imagine allowing a teacher who is essentially a stranger to these children and interacts with them for, at most, 9 months to have any kind of sexual discussion with 11 year old kids. Why in the world would parents forfeit their responsibility to their children on this incredibly important discussion to a school system?
Report Post »term limits for congress
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:29pmI know that it is an old book (1930′s), but it is coming true! I you haven‘t read ’Brave New World,’ you should. It gets more accurate every day.
Coming Next: humans being bred for job-specific purposes.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:01pm@term limits
Malthusian belts will soon be handed out to little girls.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:20pmHow many parents, when explaining sex to their 5th graders would even get into oral sex? Wouldn’t we all just explain how procreation happens and the beauty of this intimate act between a man and woman, preferably when married? How dare someone other than a parent take it to such a level as oral sex.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:45pmWell and as any parent knows, children develop at different rates. What is appropriate to tell a child at a certain age varies by the child. That is why teaching this stuff uniformly in a public school is just INSANE!
Report Post »oriondma05
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:56pmRed rocket!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:55pmThink it’s safe to say that if I had kids, I’d a been behind bars long ago; however, justice would have been served.
Progressives are nothing more than animals, really. They need have pain inflicted up them, or they’ll never learn what not to do.
Report Post »rderrick
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:29pmExactly. I read these so-called ‘outraged’ parents are feel very ‘upset’ about it all, the meanwhile agreeing with sex education to their own kids. If it had been my little girl, or boy, I would have gone down to that shool and personal slapped that reprobate female liberal so-called school principle. Absoultely. And then gone to jail for whatever period. The lesson would have gone out, and a jury might have something to say about it too. Liberals scheme and plot to insinuate themselves into decent peoples’ lives, and they ought be stomped like the cokroaches they are!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:38pm@RDERRICK
Like Sam Kinison told Rodney Dangerfield in Back To School:
“Good answer….Good answer.“ ”I like the way you think!”
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:58pmExactly true, sir.
THeir “progressivist” brains have been seared as if by a hot iron.
Cauterized.
Unable to heal.
Get you children AWAY from these freaks or you’ll lose them forever.
Report Post »theblazerunner
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:27amBack To School Rodney Dangerfield Sam Kinison
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DadInFishers
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:55pmLOL. Parents surrender their kids to Godless, government schools then act shocked and get angry when their precious little ones are treated like cattle!?! I guess their children aren’t precious enough, though, to protect them from filth and making themselves (the parents) the center and controlling factors in education. Pass off the responsibility to the school system to do what you should be doing (teaching your kids yourselves); pass the buck to the tax payers to transport your kids to those meat factories; rely on the school to feed your kids. That’s all great right up to the point the real parents, the nanny state, start acting like the Godless trolls they are and suddenly, only then when your little ones are fully corrupted, do you care?
Lazy, uncaring parents.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:10pmYou ever consider that Christians pulling their kids out of public school is the main reason the schools are so bad. There are no godly influences left. I sent my kids to private christian school right up until I couldn’t afford to and now they go to public school. I went to public school, my pastor went to public school and we are fundamentalist christians. My kids have brought school friends to church with us. It is a mission field. I’m tired of christians taking their ball and going home. If you want to dis-engage from society and take the easy way out go ahead. Just don’t question the rest of us sitting down to eat with sinners trying to keep them out of hell.
Report Post »Cire75
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:10pmI’m a single full time dad and business owner I have no choice but to send my daughter to a public institution as though I earn a good living I cannot afford 13 years of college type tuition for private school and than college also I have to work to earn that living. I am offended that you would call me lazy because I have little or no options. Lazy parents do not care what thier children are learing in school and are not supplementing thier educations at home. Nor do lazy parents engage thier schools and other parents to contribute and steer curriculum and policies. If you want to blame someone blame the brave women and progressives of the 50′s who destroyed the nuclear family and the ability for a single parent to support a family by telling women they should work too so that two incomes can purchase what one used too. I’m young as well so I know my history even though I am a product of public school. I think you need to reassess your statements before covering everyone with your blanket of ignorance.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:25pmAlthough I mostly agree with what you said, there are some of us parents who truly have no other choice besides public school. Really. Not everyone has money for private school, or can be there to homeschool. Some of us struggle to wrok to pay the rent on a small apt, pay the car insurance on a 15 yr old car, shop at thrift stores for clothes, our income due to the economy seems to shrink and shrink, and we just can’t do private or homeschooling.
It’s not always lazy parents who send their kids off to school. They are lazy when they could do something else, or when they don’t oversee their kids education and trust the schools. I remained very involved in my son’s education and he is not indocrinated.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:34pm@DadInFishers
Bingo!
Either put up, or shut up. Wanna talk the talk? Then, you must walk the walk. Want things to change? Then don’t provide excuses on why you cannot find alternate avenues to educate your kids. It’s really all a matter of choices, isn’t it? Don’t choose to do something and then complain that you had to do it.
Man-up!
Report Post »MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:10pmWhat makes a teacher want to teach are they in it because they love to teach or in it for the money or in it because their pervs who love to be with kids ?
Report Post »CABERNETQHS
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:01amThink you know me? My kids go to public schools and they have been listening to me and their father correct some of the liberal crap spewed at them. They are raising their hands and challenging their teachers. Their classmates ask them questions instead of the teacher. We cannot give up on the public schools. Not everyone is able to live in a cardboard box in order send their kids to private schools and home schooling is great for some, not all. Educating your kids is on going, talk to them, lead by example. Unfortunately your overprotected homeschooled children may not be ready to take on this warped world we live in unless they have learned to debate the issues.
Report Post »deerjerkydave
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 12:57pmPeople NEED to break union power by instituting vouchers.
Report Post »letscook1
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 11:42amI don’t know what planet you are from or what country that you live in but there is still sex ed in religious and private schools as well. And if anything, there is MORE oral sex in private schools because teens there are more worried about their futures and getting into good colleges so sex that eliminates the fear of pregnancy is more in vogue.
And kids were “playing doctor” with each other in the 1950s and long before. Sexual curiosity is not a modern day Marxist plot. It is actually inherent in our DNA hence there are billions of people on the planet.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:55pmParents need to take their children out of that school immediately. These people are up to no good and it may save the parents from beating those teachers to a pulp and having to pay for that. These people are not fit to be around children or even pets. These are perverts who would do something like this and pawn it of as education.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:51pmIt would be my guess that principal and some of those teachers are gooming those kids for sexual molestation and said they had this teaching agenda when the kids talked of something about it at home. They may have already molested some children.
Report Post »janedough1
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:01pmWhen parents start taking this seriously, and understanding that the number of reports of this kind of crap means that it is happening in MOST schools, and they start pulling their kids out of school to either home school or private school them, this will stop happening. But as long as you get up the next day and trustingly feed your kids to the big yellow bus, you can bet this is happening to your kid.
The school district was not tasked by God with raising your kids. They are not going to have to stand before God and answer for how your kids are raised, you are. When each incident like this is answered by 50,000 more kids leaving public school, it will stop.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:49pmWhy is the leftist so obsessed by sex? It seems it is all they talk about. Every time something comes up it is about sex or has nasty conotations of some type. All the most of them suffering from oral and anal fixation? Just watch them and the way they dress, act and what they are constantly promoting. There is something wrong with people when they cannot even keep their mouths shut around others who do not even know them really well and especially little children. They are just nasty people who think everyone else is nasty. It seems to take up their lives.
Report Post »CMDR6
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:29pmI totally agree, they are trying to create a level of high esteem, both self and public, based on a very basic physical action, i.e. sex.
Report Post »Just like the dogs that they are……
Mil-Dot
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:47pmThe reason these commies (like Sorocialism) are trying to shove sex on our kids is so they can somehow equate sex with their ideology and get them to come over to their way of thinking. By juxtaposing sex with progressivism they believe they can turn them against their parents authority more easily and get them to side with them- all the while calling the conservative parents “old fashioned” and such. It is part of a multi-faceted brainwashing method. What young kid, once introduced to sex, is going to turn away from it. Get it? And oh, my earlier post? I meant every letter of it and I was not “bloviating”. Just try that with my kid and see what happens.
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:49pmTake away prayer,take away the Bible.Teach them how to have oral and anal sex.
Report Post »huey6367
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:51pmTake away everything. Let’s use the incredible intellect of these people to teach our children (sarcasm implied).
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:02pmYou‘re right that lefty’s are so hung up on sex………why? Someone needs to tar and feather this principlal. What is wrong with these people? Little children need to have some innocence before they learn these things. Yeah, teach them some things that are necessary, but my GOD, not this sick stuff. It isn’t even necessary at that age. Hell I was 40 before I knew some type people did this to each other. All kids need to know is you don’t let anyone touch you in private places, end of story.
Report Post »Tractorboy
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:11pmSeems their goal is to really mess these kids heads up, why do they always sell evil, always remove the good, and godly things and fuel the evil.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:48pmThis>>> One parent said “Steam was coming out my ears,” he said. “I was very, very upset. dumbed down alert>>>I understand that they need to teach these kids sex education<<<dumb downed alert – but 11-year-olds? I have a problem with that. The wife and I were very – very upset.”
"I understand that they need to teach these kids sex education" ?!? No! They do not need to teach kids sex education that is for parents to do or not do, not the schools! The commie schools are doing this on purpose. Read Communist Goals from 1963.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:20pmAll these so called sex education lessons are the reason so many little children are hung-up on sex. This type teaching makes them more curious and they want to experiment, which is normal after hearing about it this way.. This liberal education is making this country sicker.
It’s a parents place to teach their children about these things, at the proper age, it‘s not a school administration’s business, nor teachers nor principal.
Report Post »knotjammin2
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:46pmNow may a good time for the principal and Superintendent Scott Fenter to hide. Anyway you want to shade it, these two guys are perverts and should be hauled out to the town square and publicly horse whipped!!
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:43pmOh and let’s not miss this gem…..
“Gilliland said another child explained to their parents that it “was basically like a lollipop.”
Be sure to tell the children it‘s like freakin’ candy to entice them to want to do the act.
Report Post »Sister Miriam
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:41pmYikes, this is what counts as “responsible and liberating” education for children? God help us all.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:40pmWhat a sick reflection of our society that we have degenerated such that 5th graders are being taught this type of material.
Keep voting liberal, Washington. Before long, they will teach this to your children in Kindergarten.
Report Post »Windwalker
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 10:39amSexual material that shocks is nothing new for Washington state. Washington state introduced the sex education “pilot program” supporting SEICUS in the late 60′s. I know, I was there. The woman who ramroded this was Dr. Mary Calderone, research her. She pulled this program off with the blessing of the United States government. She believed children by the age of kindergarden should be sexually enlightened. IMHO, arbitrarily dismantling information of this nature without fully disclosing its possible consequences reminds me of educating the same age group of how to load a gun, drive a car, fly an airplane or a host of other activities without restrictions and regulations. Children this age do not have the maturity or mental capacity to totally comprehend total sexual responsibility. We have a generation of female adolescents who are sexually active, many of them mothers who are still children themselves. We have taught and are teaching them that being sexually active is their ‘right’ not their responsibility, no sex act is abnormal or unatural, and nothing about what the emotional, mental, physical, medical and financial consequence costs of irresponsible sexual behavior. The annals of history are very clear as to what happens to a society that allows and endorses moral and sexual decline…..we are there.
Report Post »Dougsopinion
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 10:37amPlease don’t call all people from the state of Washington crazy liberals. The fact of the matter is the west side of the state is completely liberal, trying very hard to rival Sin Fransisco. The east side of the state is very conservative. The problem is that the bulk of the population lives on the west side. Near Seattle. There was talk sometime ago about the east side of the state merging with north Idaho, thus creating a new state called Cascadia. I think its time to revisit this idea. I’m embarassed to say I live in Washington state.
Report Post »AnAmericanToo
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:39pmWhile these kiddies are being taught sexual behavior are they also taught about the other diseases associated with such behavior? Oral diseases? and after they are fully and completely educated on HIV/AIDS which is associated with illegal drug use, ‘homosexual life style” (trying to keep this discussion appropriate and not graphic) about rectum tears and weak muscles that cause continual fecal leakage — are the kids taught about other things that are closer to their typical age of health issues? ….oh like say measles, flu, dental cavities, acne, why one should not share beverages with each other out of the same container, etc.
But parents who send their schools to public school should be checking out the school’s agenda at the beginning of each school year — after getting exposed to worldly information its too late to undo the damage.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:43pmIf my kid came home talking about that mess I would clean the hallways out with some people’s azz. These nasty people cannot keep their minds off their azz or anyone elses. They are indeed talking about something that should never be mentioned to little children. How I despise these sorry people. I hope God strikes them dead in their tracks for what they are doing.
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:48pmThe taxpayer funded assault on morality and traditional values “progresses.” The taxpayer funded educational system is heavily infested with Godless, immoral, Marxist-Leninist Democrats. The leftist agenda is the opiate of many public school teacher’s these days as shown in “Marxist Valley College” at Youtube. http://tinyurl.com/65dpzwu
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:54pm“The taxpayer funded assault on morality and traditional values ”progresses.” The taxpayer funded educational system is heavily infested with Godless, immoral, Marxist-Leninist Democrats. The leftist agenda is the opiate of many public school teacher’s these days as shown in “Marxist Valley College” at Youtube.”
Oops, here’s the correct link to Marxist Valley College. http://tinyurl.com/7ub3dv7
There are so many left wing assaults on decent Americans these days, it’s hard to keep track of all of them.
Report Post »WarEagleVII
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:37pmThis is one of the reasons why my child is in a Christian school. At least I know the teachers and administrators there will not allow this sort of “education” to be allowed in that school. These government mandates on sex education are ridiculous, especially at that age.
Report Post »Sorocialism
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:43pmChristian school…LOL. Try reality, check your kids ipod…Lil Wayne is teaching your kids about this stuff instead of a trained teacher who at least tries to maintain professionalism.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:53pmNot many 11 year olds I know have ipods or their own money with which to buy the music. Responsible parents still know how and do say no to things that are too old for their kids
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:16pmSoro you are an idiot. You somehow think that every 11 yr old has an ipod, a PC all their own, a smart phone, a social media account. The parents I know who are responsible parents do not allow their young children to have all this.
REmember we are talking about pre-teenage children. We aren’t talking about 16 yr olds.
If you are a parent, I feel sorry for your kids because from the way you talk you think alll kids have this stuff and know all about sex in fifth grade.
Report Post »Mike N
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:32pmKick her out . . . teachers have NO RIGHT to make decisions on-the-fly about what non-academic material to put in our kids heads.
Parents vote on curricular material, and this is certainly not on any pre-approved list of material, I don‘t care what municipality we’re discussing.
Report Post »Sorocialism
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:41pmTry reading the story….the info was part of the curriculum.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:12pmParents do not always vote on the curriculum. At least not in NJ they have NO say whatsoever. There is a core curriculum that must be taught in every school, that is determined at the state level, based on what the feds want. If the states want education money from the feds they have to teach what the feds want them to teach. It is not each community decides.
This is why we need to get rid of the federal Dept. of Education.
Report Post »niki
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 11:58amtalkign about oral and anal sex wasn’t in the curriculum, talking about aids and stds was.
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:31pmThe principal may have gone too far, but come on, comparing it to rape and trauma is absurd beyond words. If your sweet little angel is TRAUMATIZED by this, then you’ve already raised a kid incapable of dealing with reality.
Report Post »M13
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:40pmDo you even have children? If you do, is this how your child was taught about sex-ed? How do you know what traumatizes a child? You are a complete idiot that ranks right behind Encinom on the stupidity scale.
Report Post »Sorocialism
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:41pmLater that day the parents probably bought the kids the latest “Lil Wayne” or “Nikki Minaj” CD from Wal-Mart.
Such hypocrisy…Would they rather have the kids hear about this stuff from their favorite MTV icon, or a teacher who at least tries to maintain some type of professionalism.
And for all you buffoons that think your kid isn’t exposed to this stuff…check their ipods or there facebook account which you probably also believe they don’t have…
Report Post »kindling
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:47pmIt is just like porn. You hear it, you see it, you have it done to you, it sticks in your brain for the rest of your life. When it is done to kids it changes the course of their lives from that point on. What she did should be a crime! She did verbal porn on them. Sex is meant to be explored by two newly wed adults on their wedding night. It is not supposed to be explored in a class room full of kids. Did she tell them amything having to do with ALL bodily fluids can and will transmit STDs? In my book that is all you need to tell kids. If you marry someone that has never swapped any fluid you should be safe if you have not either.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:08pmSoro – not all parents that send their kids to public school allow their children to watch MTV, and listen to Lil Wayne and Nikki whatshername. Not all parents just let the evil immoral things in this world into their homes. So stop calling them hypocrites. I didn’t and even though I explained about sex at age appropriate levels and when my son asked questions, I can tell you he wasn’t ready to hear this stuff at age 11. Some kids may be and some may not, but I’m one who thinks parents know their children best and they should be teaching this and not someone at school.
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:24pm@M13 – yes, I’ve got two and a grandchild. I‘m not saying I’d like the idea of them being taught this stuff in school, but come on. Being told how oral sex works doesn’t even approach comparison to being raped. If you’ve raised your kids in such a way that a description of oral sex is enough to traumatize them, then my guess is that one day my kids will be paying your kid‘s way through life because they’ll be too emotionally-fragile to cope with it.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:29pmI have an 8 yr old and a 12yr old (and three over 18) they do not have cell phones, they do not have an Ipod or mp3player, they do not have a facebook account and generally do not watch television, they do no ask for any of those things. Imagine that, they are happy kids that have learned early on that you don’t need to keep up with the Jones’ even though you could.
The results I have had so far….my 18 year old pays his own way through college, has his own start up business and works a second job; my 21 year old just bought his first house with 30% down, and my 23 year old has her own business and home. Yeah, I’m a mean mom and the kids are so deprived that they can’t figure out reality without the help of the government.
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:00pmLet me make myself clear here. If I had my way, I would immediately eliminate the department of education. I would defund the public schools and move to a market-driven private school system. And I don’t believe teachers should be teaching sex ed AT ALL. That’s for parents to be doing. Personally I think probably at least half the currently-employed public school teachers could be fired tomorrow and the quality of education wouldn’t drop and may even rise as a consequence.
My complaint is with the idea that describing oral sex is comparable to rape and is some kind of traumatizing event. The kids in this country today are by and large the most coddled bunch of babies in the world because for decades liberal psychologists like Spock have been telling everyone that childhood-destroying trauma lies around every corner. You can’t yell at your kid without risking traumatizing the little darlings. And so now there’s a ridiculous number of weak, soft, emotionally-fragile people wandering around out there crying to news reporters about democracy ending because their guy lost a democratic election. When I was a 5th grader, for crying out loud if my teacher started telling us how oral sex worked we’d probably all have been giggling like, well, like school kids. I doubt any single one of us would’ve needed trauma counceling. That’s just pathetic.
Finally, comparing descriptions of oral sex to rape I think is a slap in the face to everyone who’s had to suffer the horror of
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:07pmHow is it that this terrible forum software tells me I’ve got 9 characters remaining and yet it cuts off my last word? To finish that thought, comparing descriptions of oral sex to rape I think is a slap in the face to everyone who’s had to suffer the horror of rape. These things are NOT comparable. It would be like saying that describing to someone the infamous Bath Salt Zombie attack would be comparable to chewing their face off. It’s not.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:16pmI was both molested as a child (10-13) and raped as a teen (19). I can tell you that I will protect my daughters from sickos of all stripes and that includes within the education system.
Far from seeing the comparison between this and a rape,as an insult, I see it as a legitimate comparison as rape/molestation is not about sex, it is about power. These teachers have power over children who are generally a captive audience.
Secondly well after the physical effects of sexual assault have healed, the mental and emotional remain. You feel like a freak, especially when your friends are sitting around playing with their dolls or talking about how they held Michael’s hand and you know more about functional sex than kids twice your age.
THAT is what this teacher did!!! So yes I think the comparison is a good one.
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 3:34pmWell, to each their own, but I frankly find it as idiotic as saying that a drawing of a gun violates a school weapon policy. I suppose a teacher who teaches their kids about the bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII is doing something comparable to inflicting nuclear death on the kids. I guess if you want to go through life being THAT horrified of words, it’s your life to live, have at it.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:16pmIt becomes increasingly obvious that you do not have children, or you know nothing about them. You Can you explain in graphic detail in front of your child how you are going to murder your spouse and then expect it not to affect them? It is just words after all.
My own experiences as a child and a young adult inspired me to go into the medical field, to help children, especially those who were screwed over by adults.
What this teacher did is developmentally inappropriate, cognitively inappropriate and is socially inappropriate; all of which he/she should have had enough training to know the difference.
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 4:45pmFor the SECOND time, yes I have kids and a grandchild.
“What this teacher did is developmentally inappropriate, cognitively inappropriate and is socially inappropriate; all of which he/she should have had enough training to know the difference.”
I agree with everything you say here. But that still doesn‘t mean that I’m going think that describing oral sex is the same thing as rape. Feel free to disagree with that all you want. I also don’t think a verbal decription of oral sex should be in the least bit traumatizing to 11 year olds. Again, feel free to disagree. But don‘t sit there saying oh it’s OBVIOUS you don‘t have kids because you don’t share my opinion! It’s frigging obnoxious and what one expects from idiot lefties.
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:25pmI was raised in a pretty normal suburban area with a surprisingly decent public school, yet I can say for a fact that I was familiar with the phrase “suck my d*ck” by the third grade, and understood what it meant. And somewhere in the 10 to 12 range I stumbled upon some dirty magazines and got to see what it looked like. But did I feel traumatized or raped? No, I giggled and said oh gross!
Now I agree that kids are oversexualized these days, largely because liberals seem obsessed with sex. But holy cow if we‘re going to go so far the other way that we’re saying a verbal description of sex is traumatic and akin to rape, well that just seems a terrible overreaction.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:58pm@Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:07pm
How is it that this terrible forum software tells me I’ve got 9 characters remaining and yet it cuts off my last word?
The flaw with this site is that it “counts” your user name and post date but does not tell you it has.
This part (below) is hidden yet also counted…. You’ll have to adjust to allow it. : (
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Walkabout
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:47pmBalthazor
Whole sections of Medieval society thought violating the mind was worse than rape. At the time I thought they were wrong, but why do we have terms like “brain bleach”?
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:47pmSo medieval society is our model now? I’m pretty sure large segments of medieval society believed disease was caused by evil spirits and that leaving a dish of milk out would attract brownies. I’m not sure the philosophy of medieval society makes a real good argument. Besides, I‘m guessing most medieval people probably already had kids themselves at not much older than the age we’re talking about here. I‘m willing to bet your average medieval serf wouldn’t have been traumatized be hearing a description of sexual activity at the age of 11.
Report Post »k8ti
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:11amYou obviously have no children!
The bottom line is, 11 year old CHILDREN SHOULD NOT being “learning” about oral & anal sex from anywhere. Seriously, in what way is that beneficial to their learning about the human reproductive system? Anything extra should be left solely up to the parents.
Report Post »CommunismSurvivor
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 2:36pmGee, why don‘t we just tell them everything when they’re 5 and be done with it, huh? Because hey, it’s reality, and they’ll have to deal with it sooner or later! I mean come ON! I have nothing against educating children about sex, but at 11 y.o., chances are they haven’t even gone into puberty yet! It’s not that talking to kids about this is wrong, it’s that THOSE KIDS ARE TOO DAMN YOUNG!! A mind that young and innocent is NOT ready to deal with such things. Would you show porn to an 11 y.o.? After all, if telling them in detail how it’s done is OK, shouldn’t showing them also be ok? Seriously???
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:30pmThe principal should be fired! This age group as a whole knows NOTHING about sex. It was rude, crude, WAY over their heads and absolutely deemed too old and graphic for that age. I would have been furious if they had don’t that to one of my children or grandchildren. It borders on SEXUAL ABUSE. Things like this are why America is failing. Once again, the principal should be FIRED, right now. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:35pmUnfortunately this will not happen…they will just transfer the principal to another school out of the area. Thanks to the Teachers Union, no matter what they do you can’t fire them….and our taxes pay for this….don’t you love it.
Report Post »CalMarine
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:29pmI will quietly pull my daughter out of class when this happens. I will teach my child about sex education when the time is right. I will not hold back and will teach her properly. It is not for some teacher to do it for me. Be a proactive parent
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:36pmYou wil quietly pull your kid out of class? What are you some kind of a moron? I would go up to that school and beat the fricking whipped cream out the the principals ass if my kid was put upon with that crap. Too bad nobody in Wash has any balls.
Report Post »Sorocialism
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:47pmNice parenting Mil-Dot.
hey young Mil-Dot kid -When you don’t agree with someone…“beat the whipped cream out of their ass” because if you don’t…you don’t have any balls.
Quite mature on your part.
Report Post »HisStoryUn
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:01pm@Mil-Dot – You are absolutely correct. The country is at this point because good men stood idly by and did nothing to stop these kooks! As for @Calmarine – You can’t “quietly pull your kid from class” when you can’t see it coming in the first place! Unless you are standing beside them every minute of every day you MUST trust those in charge to do the right thing. When they don’t, you MUST stand up for what is right. There are no other options. Get it @Sorocialism?! He is bloviating out of frustration over an obvious and extreme situation – not to be taken literally idiot!
Report Post »wtd
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:01pmBy the time you “pull your kid out quietly”, the shock and awe violation already took place.
In 2010 reports went viral about Kevin Jennings as the “Safe Schools Czar” supplying ‘fisting kits’ to students and classes as young as kindergarten were targeted for sex ed – putting parents on notice.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:37pmSorocialism
Report Post »Your name says it all pal. You are a pinko commie indoctrinator. Hide behind your keyboard your coward.
And Historyun, No, I am not bloviating. I mean it. This is tantamount to sexually assaulting my kid. You sexaully assault my kid, and you will pay.
Goldi
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:29pmobama’s principal!
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:29pmEnd the Department of Education.
Report Post »huey6367
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:50pmtotally agree with you on that. Thanks Mr. Carter for the Departments of Eduction AND Energy. Two completely useless Departments.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:01pmAmen, Huey.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:27pmThe only way to combat this is through a Legal Defense Organization for Christians – well funded.
Report Post »Sorocialism
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:48pmSomebody has to pay for all the pedophelia lawsuits right…
Jenny Lind
Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:05pmI just keep seeing more names I don’t recognise on the Baze. I don’t speak for everyone on the Blaze, but when one of us is upset and says something in anger, I figure it’s Ok to vent a bit. When I see an answer or two like yours, I know you are looking to stir the pot, and for myself and many others I have noticed, we don’t respond to you. If you are looking for an arguement so you can make people here sound stupid, there are lots of us who won’t give you the satisfaction, we will just ignore you sorosfan.
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