‘This Is Not Amnesty’: President Obama Defends New Immigration Policy in White House Speech
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President Barack Obama. (File Photo)
Just hours after his administration announced a major shift in U.S. immigration policy, President Obama made his case to the American people, calling his new plan “the right thing to do” in a speech broadcast from the White House.
“This morning Secretary Napolitano announced new actions that my administration will take to mend our nations immigration policy; to make it more fair, more efficient and more just, specifically for young people sometimes called dreamers,” Obama said.
The new guidelines, which were not approved by Congress, will reportedly prevent younger illegal immigrants from being deported if they meet a specified set of guidelines laid out by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
He called the young illegal immigrants who were brought to America by their parents “Americans in their heart, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper.”
“They were brought to this country by their parents, sometimes even as infants and often have no idea that they are undocumented until they apply for a job, or a driver’s license, or a college scholarship,” Obama said. “Put yourself in their shoes. Imagine you’ve done everything right your entire life; studied hard, worked hard, maybe even graduated at the top of your class only to suddenly face the threat of deportation to a country that you know nothing about with a language you might not even speak.”
The president said this is what gave rise to the DREAM Act, which says that illegal immigrants who have been in America for more than five years and who were born here can be put on a path to citizenship. Obama said he will sign the DREAM Act “immediately” if lawmakers put it on his desk.
“It’s the right thing to do,” Obama continued. “It makes no sense… to expel these young people who want to staff our labs or start new businesses or defend our country simply because of the actions of their parents – or the inaction of politicians.”
(Related: Obama Raises His Voice, Scolds Reporter During Immigration Speech (With Video)
Obama toted his administration’s efforts to secure the border saying they have put more boots on the southern border than anytime in history and illegal border crossings are at their lowest in 40 years.”
“We have improved on that discretion carefully and thoughtfully. Well today we are improving it again. Effective immediately, the Department of Homeland Security is taking steps to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people,” Obama said. “For the next few months, eligible individuals who do not present a risk to national security or public safety will be able to request temporary relief from deportation proceedings and apply for work authorization.”
He continued, “Lets be clear, this is not amnesty, this is not immunity, it’s not a path to citizenship, this is not a permanent fix.“ Obama again called it the ”right thing to do“ for in general and also for ”security.”
“We are a better nation than one that expels innocent young kids,” Obama added.
Before concluding, Obama again challenged Congress to come together to pass the Dream Act and craft long lasting solutions on immigration reform.
Watch some of President Obama’s comments here:
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Volsense
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:17pmThis is how Obama addresses the historically high unemployment rate among young adults by allowing 800,000+ illegal immigrants to flood an already dire unemployment sitation already a castastrophe. It is obvious that he is either incompetent or irrational or both, but it will cause our young adults to suffer for his lunacy. It will give him 800+ illegal votes that he cannot get elected without.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:39pmSo true.
In fact, wouldn’t it raise the unemployment rate if you suddenly throw 800,000 people into the market while keeping the number of open jobs the same?
Further, won’t it further lower salaries if you keep the supply (of jobs) the same yet increase the demand (800,000 more people)?
Hear that sound? Yeah, that‘s the sound of Romney’s landslide victory beginning to roll down the mountain.
Romney/______ 2012!
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:40pmIf I were a black young American I would consider this latest move of Obama to be offensive. How about establishing an economic atmosphere that will allow the young blacks to find jobs? How about making it easier for them? This was a purely political move to get Hispanic votes, nothing more! It was also against the law, although that means nothing to Obama. There is no constitutional authority for Obama to change immigration law without first having the approval of the House and Senate.
It is time to purge this country of Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Napolitano, Siebelius, the EPA, the Dept. of Education, farm subsidies for ethanol production and congressmen who think that Guam can be tipped over by too many troops! OMG2012
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:45pmPants on fire, pants on fire with a smile and taking away jobs from our legal citizens.
Report Post »VanceUppercut
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:46pm@Volsense
So I take it that you must be pro-choice? If it weren’t for abortions there would be millions more young people right now looking for a job. Since you more competition for jobs is bad enough to drive our immigration policy, surely is must also be bad enough to bolster pro-choice beliefs when it comes to abortion policy.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:46pmIs there no shame in the White House? Obviously not.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:51pmThe works of a dictator, straight up.
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:07pmCheck this out! This film maker just called into the Tom Sullivan show.
Report Post »http://www.theycometoamerica.com/
GETLIFE
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:28pm“…it’s not a path to citizenship….”
Well why not!?
Report Post »Are they not sure they want to be American? Foreign nationals–not just Latinos– who have been raised in America, get in-state tuition favors from certain universities, and have the right to work their entire lives here with forever renewable working papers– don’t have to sign up for Selective Service?
Are not even asked to become responsible citizens?
seeker9
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:31pmNot amnesty? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it IS a duck.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:35pmThis is a JOBS Bill; Look; sign up; we‘ll get you a ’motor-voter’ applicaton; turn it in; the DOJ will sue any state or government entitiy that tries to deny you the righ to vote.
Now; when you sign up, we’ll need YOUR name and address; your mama‘s and papa’s name and anddress; the name and addres of any of your relatives (s0 they can vouch for you); and the name of your coyote…..
Oh, and don’t be afraid to asnwer the door…….LOL
Knock…Knock…..
Report Post »Who’s there?
Ima……
Ima Who?
Imagration……open the door!!!
Mutiny
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:48pmRomney is still pro amnesty and all of you sheep are falling for it.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:10pm@MUTINY –
look… i can do it too…
Ron Paul is still pro amnesty and all of you sheep are falling for it…
How about we face reality here, Mitt Romney is NOT for amnesty.
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/immigration
– “Mitt Romney opposes amnesty because he believes that it acts as a magnet encouraging illegal immigration. The last amnesty law passed in 1986 granted legal status to 2.7 million illegal immigrants. In the decades since, the illegal immigrant population has quadrupled. Mitt believes that an amnesty should not be permitted to happen again. Illegal immigrants who apply for legal status should not be given any advantage over those who are following the law and waiting their turn. Mitt absolutely opposes any policy that would allow illegal immigrants to “cut in line.”
– “Mitt Romney will complete a high-tech fence and provide the necessary number of border patrol to finally secure our southern border.”
– “Mitt Romney believes in the rule of law and will fully enforce federal immigration law. As governor, he authorized state police to assist the federal government in immigration enforcement.”
Report Post »marhee9
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:33pmThis is nothing more than one more attempt to distract from the number one issue this country is facing…….jobs!!!! I love to hear how Obama explains how this will help “legal” citizens of this country with unemployment. Silly me….he won’t be asked. Check out this great video on what the GOP needs to be doing to keep the topic on jobs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KYopiOWbjs
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:50pmYOU LIE. AGAIN. Right to our faces in pure dictatorial style. This isn’t amnesty? That‘s like saying the August South Texas sun doesn’t sting the hell out of your skin. A sun that more immigrants and OTM’s will be running and hiding under more now than ever, putting themselves and our border agents in danger..I wish we could deport his Kenyan *ss and the rest of his tribe back to his African homeland.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 6:39pmModernist education has destroyed the ability to think rationally among the people. So when politicians make totally insane decisions that have destructive potential, no one can argue rationally with the logic. Leaving them with only one option, to support.
No one wants believe that they are left out of the loop or that they don’t understand the irrational behaviors of leadership in a nation of “democratic’ principle. That would mean that they are being ignored. That we live under a (virtual) dictatorship.
Report Post »hypnos
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 6:41pmEven if you think it is humane and fair to give partial amnesty you can not just deem it so out of frustration or political expedience. We have a constitutional republic that has a time tested process that works no matter how slow it seems to take. He is becoming more emboldened as time goes on. This is what is so disturbing.
Report Post »Right March Redux
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:04pmIf this is such a great idea why not trying to do it the good old fashioned legal way and ask Congress to write a law? Oh, I forgot. Two separate Congresses have defeated this exact legislation. O’s answer? Lets do it by executive fiat, otherwise called an Executive Order.
Of course, this should scare the hell out of everyone. If one branch of government ignores the other, there goes the separation of powers in our Constitution. If this stands, Obama just made Congress superfluous.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:16pmBHO Logic: After all laws are meant to be broken. What does this guy care about the United States sovereignty? His hate to the United States will show more and more as he realizes how useless his chances are this time around. I wouldn’t care if Romney was a space alien I will just get great pleasure of voting against this garbage.
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 3:34amVanceUppercut
Report Post »Go have another beer maybe you will at least make sense. Remember the little string on your finger, breathe in, breathe out. Or forget what it is for and do us all a favor.
phil1765
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 4:28amOk Obammy stop with all the lies please we all know what you are doing, so why don’t you just come out like a man and say it. You are the most arrogant, insipid person I have ever seen. That is really something to be proud of. Just a hint here that social justice thing you just love to harp on is just roberry writ large. Oh and that collective salvation thing doesn’t work either, guess you will be finding that out for yourself in time. I think it is high time that you start actually worrying about ALL the people that you are supposed to be serving and forget about the ones that got here ILLEGALY. You have a hard enough time trying to deal with 300 and something million people that we have already it isn’t going to help you any by adding a million more. Please just quit already it is the honorable thing to do.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 8:32amOne more serious blow to black unemployment in America – this nails their coffin……a total welfare race now that Obama has dumped a million illegal immigrants into the job pool. NAACP? Cowards.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 10:14am@VANCEUPPERCUT
Report Post »Seriously….do you wake up every morning determined to convince as many people as possible that killing babies is a really nifty thing? Is that the measure of success in your paltry life?
magnavox
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 10:53pmwell wait a minute here …. isn’t this BS? I thought there was a law on the books already that grants you citizenship if you were born here in the great ole USA?
“it’s just not fair” ..I think this is what he will be remembered for along with the “apoligizer”. I’m going to start using this phrase at work now.
Best order these bumper stickers now for your autos.
Report Post »Altair
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:16pmWhat would that illegal alien mongrel SOB know about “… being American in their hearts.”
And “Lost” is for the most part right… as one of the La Raza professors in California said about illegal Mexicans flooding our country, “America is a big fat whore waiting to be plundered.”
Report Post »VanceUppercut
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:38pm@Altair
To quote Jack White:
“White Americans, what
Nothing better to do?
Why don’t you kick yourself out?
You’re an immigrant too.
Who’s using who?
Report Post »What should we do?
Well, you can’t be a pimp
And a prostitute too.”
HKS
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:11pmWell, about a million young Americans just lost any hope of a first job, and a lot of states just increased their insurance liabilities at your expense by a million or so to be covered. All this cost to you, for a few Spanish votes for him. Is this a great country or what, he can buy votes for himself with your money and you don’t care.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 7:00pm@ Vance – Encinomoron is that you?
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 4:38amVanceUppercut
Report Post »Sorry ******* I am not an immigrant, my parents weren’t immigrants, their parents weren’t immigrants and so on for about 10 or 15 generations and the ones that were immigrants came here LEGALLY, do you even understand what the freaking word means?
Judeo_Christian
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:16pmIn any other TRUE constitutional republic, Dictator for Life Obama would have been immediately sanctioned and charged with High Crimes and Misdemeanors impeached, charged with Treason, imprisoned an possibly executed.
However, we haven’t lived in a TRUE constitutional republic for a long time.
Congress and Supreme Court…you are hereby irrelevant. Sig Heil Obama!
Report Post »BlondeFrenzy
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:28pmyou got that right!!! I was just reading our Declaration of Independence and was sickened by the similarities in King George lll and King Obama.. This is just sickening!
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:56pm@ Blond – so true – most read the first part without reading the list of grievances – we are right back there….
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:16pmObama is mentally unstable, I believe; narcissism is a very debilitating condition. It will be the ruin of this man if is not given treatment. He needs to be relieved of his duties. He is not sane.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:42pmI wish it were that simple. However, I feel he’s more crazy like a fox rather than just plain crazy.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 5:29pmNo doubt; but he’s a profound egomaniac and the country must learn this.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:15pmLet me see if I understand this…in his zeal to get re-elected at any cost, Obama has just added in a few million people to compete for jobs in an enconomy that has a smaller workforce than when he took office. An underemployment rate not seen since WWII and a smaller job pool and he’s just thrown a few more million individuals into that scenario. Before now, these people couldn’t compete for the same jobs Americans had. Nice one Barry…
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:25pmObama just nullified the Tea Party vote with non-Americans. Think about what waste of time it will to vote this Nov. when Mexican has made your vote worthless.
Report Post »2smart
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 12:59pmMy vote is NEVER worthless. Besides, I will show up to vote. How many of the new citizens will? It seems that in the past latinos have a voters registration but don’t bother to use it. Too busy working hard I understand, or possibly there hiding from immigration. But since immigration under the Empty Suit is not a real big threat I guess were back to the first excuse.
Report Post »Laken
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:14pmAmericans For Sheriff Joe
http://www.americansforsheriffjoe.com/index.php/
Report Post »Laken
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:17pmListen To WE THE PEOPLE Congress…We DEMAND An Investigation Of The “One Who Calls Himself Obama”..NOWWWW!!!!
http://www.wnd.com/wnd_petition/petition-urging-congress-to-investigate-obamas-eligibility/
Report Post »Laken
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:19pmSheriff Joe will be testifying in Florida.. Monday morning at 9am
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/
Report Post »Laken
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:23pmFollow Sheriff Joe On His Twitter Account
https://twitter.com/RealSheriffJoe/status/213004552721539072
Report Post »Laken
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:27pmImpeach Holder TOO!!!!
http://action.freedomworks.org/6851/tell-congress-to-investigate-eric-holder/?source=AWEHT2&gclid=CPr8i_zmzbACFcVk7AodlRQ0Wg
Report Post »Laken
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:30pmTo Call AND Fax Your Reps….
http://www.lcaction.cc/2659/targets.htm
Report Post »vox_populi
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:13pm“This is not amnesty.”
I know, and that’s too bad.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:27pmso you’re all for several million more people allowed to compete for jobs that Americans already are having a tough time finding is that right VOXIE?
Report Post »Let me get this straight. An already reduced workforce and job pool under Obama and you’re all for adding a few more million people to compete for those already reduced jobs?
You’re an idiot.
BlondeFrenzy
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:31pmGet Out of America you commie idiot! Let me guess.. you don’t have a job.. never will and there fore don’t give a sh#@. You live off the back of the 51% of us that pay taxes.. What will you do when those of us that put a roof over your sick pathetic head get up and leave. you make me sick!
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:32pmCut the CRAP vox.. you know dam well it is. Not just for the POOR kids whose parents brought them here illegally, but for those very parents.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:33pmNo, not amnesty just a vote block purchase.
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:41pmGuys, we all know by now VOX_E_COLI is only here to say the most moronic and intellectually dishonest thing he can think up, then never even attempt to back it up with anything other than name calling and fart noises…I think all the confusion stems from when his older sister used to dress him up in her dolls clothes and make him play “tea party”
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:42pmVox they‘re here illegally and I know it’s hard for a communist a hole like yourself who doesn’t understand what the word illegal means and no amount of double talk BS from the Marxist POS president can sugar coat this.
Report Post »MrSunshine
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:13pmThis SOB thinks he’s the damn king! How the hell did this country elect someone who shows nothing but contempt for the constitution? He and his minions belong in jail!
Report Post »Seagal45
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:13pmwhat a lying sos.
Report Post »Fatheroftwo
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:13pmThe first thing that needs to be done is for the people in Congress to step up and face the President and tell him that the Executive order applies only to the executive branch of Government. It does not have the force of law and the States and the American public do not have to follow it. I think this would be a good start for Congress in cutting the power of the Executive and returning it to the Legislative branch. A power that the President never had and should never have.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:13pmLOL,
Report Post »“THIS IS NOT AMNESTY’: PRESIDENT OBAMA DEFENDS NEW IMMIGRATION POLICY IN WHITE HOUSE SPEECH”
No, this is out and out vote buying. What else could it be?
Juniemoon
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 6:08pmCatch, Release, Vote. Rush limbaugh.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:12pmWhenever government says we‘re going to make things more fair what the bastards really mean is we’re going to screw you over,you being taxpayers.The Marxist is simply doing what any Marxist pig would do in making an end around on congress to do what he wants.No laws are needed from congress a simple edict will be handed down from the emperor and the serfs will obey.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:24pm…and the serfs had better not ever, ever interrupt the Emperor while he’s reading his teleprompter.
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:12pm“sometimes called dreamers” ????
I thought they were called MS-13 or Latin Kings.
Report Post »socialism.rocks
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:11pmdream act gives illegal kids citizenship and by us law chain migration means they can bring their whole family over … so yep its amnesty and i like it
Report Post »mitchrx7
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:28pmGet literate.
Report Post »FortunateSon
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:32pmThe Dream Act is only granted if the Illegal immigrants have been law abiding citizens during their illegal stay in the country. Well, I would guess none would qualify because they had to provide a social security number to register in school, get a drivers license or some other type of state aid. We have nothing to worry about, they are disqualified from the Dream Act.
Report Post »hypnos
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 8:04pmSocialism, if you like take your pick of the socialist/ communist sh&t holes across the pond. Will take up a pool for a one way ticket or your sorry ass.
Report Post »Ducky 1
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:10pmI say that if it looks and quacks like a duck then it is a duck…..and I ought to know!!
Report Post »ReaganBaby
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:10pmCall it what you want, but Mr. Dictator letting people who are criminals take American Jobs is not the “right thing to do”. Weather you come here on your own or not if you do not go through the proper legal channels that makes you illegal. If i break the law i go to jail which would also separate me from my family just like an illegal who should be deported would be separated- that is the LAW. BO you are the worst thing America has ever seen and will go down in History as the most Corrupt, dishonest, damaging president ever to serve in the white.
Report Post »The Truth Burns
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:14pmThis is getting crazy. I never thought I’d see the day of in your face dictator rule in America. Their backs are against the wall, and they don’t care if they bring the house down. Wow!!
Report Post »wakewiseone
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:09pmif its not amnesty, then lock the MFs up.
Report Post »LostInTheSpin
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:08pmThey are not Americans in every way except on paper…they have no pride for this country and they hate Americans. Pick up a little Spanish and listen to what they say about us. This idiot is out of touch with the real world.
Report Post »Zcat
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:08pmJobs program — for illegals!
Report Post »taxwarrior
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:07pmSo we have approximately a million up to 30 year-old “kids”. What about their parents???
As soon as those kids apply for ‘amnesty’ their parents will be at risk. That would be sad.
So let‘s give them ’amnesty’ also.
Viva Obama
Report Post »Zcat
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:07pmIf there is corruption is government is because the Americna people have allowed, and apprently we’re continuing to allow….
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:06pmThis dude is hell-bent on burying this nation. Never have seen anything quite like him.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:06pmI guarantee he’s not doing this unless he himself will benefit from it.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:05pmSpoken like a true vote HO.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:02pm“The right thing to do” is to listen to the American people, Mr. President…Afterall its our country that you are destroying…We say NO to illegal immigration.
Report Post »VanceUppercut
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:55pmThe President isn’t saying “Yes” to illegal immigration; he’s saying that since there are a finite amount of resources to devote to deportation hearings, as well as deportations themselves, we should devote those resources to deporting criminals and not children. You clearly feel differently. I’ll make a deal with you–I’ll support deporting kids who have done nothing wrong, who had no say over being brought to this country, and who only wish to contribute to society, if you personally promise to explain to each little kid that you‘re the reason they’re being kicked out of the only country they have known and being sent back to live in desperate poverty. You can do this right after going to church and patting yourself on the back for what a good “Christian” you are. You don‘t even have to feel like you’re betraying your supposed “Christianity” (which is supposed to be all about love and kindness, and taking care of each other, even though Christians tend to be the most hateful, miserable human beings I know.) After all, it’s a well known fact that Jesus only loves white people.
Report Post »ottknot
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 4:58pmWhy are almost all liberals named something resembling Vance.. It’s like they are set up to be limp weenies. Huh. Typical Lib reaction
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 15, 2012 at 6:09pmDItto, ditto, ditto to all. This is our country and our own legal people should have the jobs.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 2:48amHey Vance…sorry about that…went fishing…but to answer your question…if it was my job to help process children of illegal immigrants….to go back to their own country…so be it…I would explain to them there is a right way and a wrong way to do things…and your parents happened to do things the wrong way…the illegal way…I’m all out for helping my fellow man…I believe we should help those less fortunate…two of my children work for handicapped homes…helping those kids out…so we strongly believe in that…but come on …America can not afford the money, jobs, healthcare, livelyhood…of all these peoples and their children…am I wrong….I know I’m one tired tax paying American that is sick of it…its very sad all the way around honestly.
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 5:02amgodlovinmom
Report Post »Trying to have a rational conversation with facts and truths included with vance is a waste of your time. He has his talking points and he won’t stray from them because then he will look like the embecile that he is. Your points are all valid to bad in this country at this time having a valid point makes you persona non grata.
MRMANN
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 10:17amAnd NO to illegal anything.
Report Post »2smart
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 1:06pmDon’t waste time with the trolls. Liberals reject any ideas or thoughts that are contrary to their view of the world. Or, “My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with facts.” (pg 118, The Pegasus Project, by B. Michelaard)
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