Sen. Coburn’s Dark Warning: U.S. Will Face a ‘Financial Meltdown’ in 2-5 Years
- Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:52pm by
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Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) believes that unless the U.S. gets its fiscal house in order, the financial and economic repercussions will be severe.
“How long do you think before the United States has a financial meltdown?” the Daily Caller’s Nicholas Ballasy asks.
“Two to five years,” Sen. Coburn responds without hesitating.
“Think about what will happen to us. We have $16 trillion worth of debt right now and we’re paying less than 2 percent on that debt — that’s 4 percentage points less than our historical average for our debt,” he said, adding that he is confident interest rates will “come back up.”
“In 2022, less than 10 years from now, unless we make major changes that everybody’s saying they know has to be made but none of the politicians have the courage to make, the entire federal budget will be made of only three things: interest, Medicare and Social Security, nothing else,” he added.
Watch Sen. Coburn’s interview with the Daily Caller:
According to Sen. Coburn, everyone in the nation’s capital knows programs such as Medicare and Social Security are in trouble but no one will publicly admit it.
“[W]hen you will speak something privately but not talk about it publicly, what’s that say about your integrity? That you just really want to win an election rather than fix our country,” Sen. Coburn said.
The senator went on to discuss “the best thing that could happen” for America, the Daily Caller’s Nicholas Ballasy writes.
“Everybody to stand up and say, ‘deal’s off, we’re going to fix the country. We know we’re all going to get fired. It’s okay, let’s go do it.’ That’s the honorable thing except we don’t have much honor here because people are refusing to address the very real problems that will undermine the core values of this country,” Sen. Coburn said.
“There has not yet been a republic that did not murder itself. We are in the midst of committing murder to our republic,” he added.
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Comments (124)
possom
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:31pmQuicker than that I give it a year top’s!
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:17pmCoburn is not innocent in spending!
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:11pmI agree, he isn’t innocent on national spending and as one of his constituents, I do not totally agree with him. HOWEVER, he does speak the truth about alot of things and he is not a career politician. In fact, this is he second and last term as a U.S. Senator. It doesn’t matter anyhow, soon we will be in so much debt that we will have to have hyper or stagflation to pay off the debt, our savings will become all but worthless unless you are a billionaire (and possibly even then), and we will all see the reality that our grandmothers and grandfathers (greatest generation my @55) have sold us to the plantation for a little peace of mind and so that they wouldn’t have to save on their own for retirement. This century will go down in the record books for this.
Report Post »dennisS
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:27pmThe only question now is, who’s going to turn off the lights? The country started into it’s death spiral towards destruction about 30-40 years ago. We sat back and allowed communists to take over the education system to the degree that now most people under the age of 40 in this country see nothing wrong with communism. Add to that the moral decay caused by the acceptance of abortion, homosexuality, sex on demand, single mothers raising children, rampant drug use, the list goes on and on. Just gives us our TV shows, video games and sports and we will accept anything that big brother wants to do to us in regard to freedom. It’s over folks, the vast majority of Americans are choosing state run security over freedom. We did it to ourselves, nobody to blame. While we were watching our favorite sit-com or realty show the communists were working overtime planning your eventual demise. As the song went, “the party’s over, it’s time to call it a day…”
Report Post »Tommyk1
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 9:21pmI agree with all you say except the part about the vast majority of Americans accepting the state sponsored security. I think you’ll see the vast majority is awakened and quietly going about the business of saving our nation.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 9:44pm@Tommy, Can you explain this a little better? If they’re awakened, which I’m not sure they are, how is quietly going about their business going to save the country? Seems we should be standing up and saying “hell no!” instead of supporting folks on the so called other team that stand for the same abuses to our civil liberties. (I say I‘m not sure they’re awakened because a lot of poeple are unaware of the NDAA, HR347, etc. The media seems complicit in keeping the masses in the dark regarding this stuff.)
Report Post »dennisS
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:15pm@tommy, I pray you are right, that is the only hope, but I‘m afraid you’re not.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:52amIf this country goes down the drain, there will be consequences for the politicians and their families for selling us out. If they think that they can just get on a plane and escape, they are dreaming. There will be teams of ex-military folks and angry civilians assembled to hunt these traitors down anywhere on earth and extract the revenge for the American people. They will not get away with it.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:42am@Mil-Dot, It already has gone down the drain and the masses are by and large doing nothing about it.
Report Post »Munsonmanor
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:15pm@ Tommy – I’m not too sure about that. I believe there’s a hard core 20-25% that’s willing to destroy this country and 20-25% that’s willing to save it. It’s the 50% in the middle that will decide which direction we go. It‘s real EASY to type on a keyboard from a safe distance that you’re willing to whatever it takes whichever side you’re going. To actually DO it….different story. It would be real easy for a lot of folks to just continue down the path we’re currently going and go with the flow until it crosses a line of morality or loss of freedom to draw a line in the sand and say NO! Problem is, by the time that a REAL majority have had enough of where we’re going, is it going to be too late? Time will tell!
Report Post »Quixotic-911
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:21pmAmerica is the only country on earth that will be even remotely well off when all of the dust settles. We are the only country in the world that can be truly self sufficient, if we would utilize our energy resources. We are the number one producers of food, medicine and weapons. We hold life and death in our hands. We need a revival of spirituality and that uniquely American form of small government nationalism.
Report Post »P.S. Death to Islam, death to the Communists!
Clmsadjman
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:24pmHope he is wrong, but I don’t think so. The takers are out numbering the makers and we are headed for EU land. I think its going to have to total collapse for Democrats to get it about fiscal sanity. Interest rates are set to skyrocket, but Democrats have their heads in the sand. I have money so 20% interest rates sound really good to me not so much for the average Joe though. I remember the early 80s with 20% mortgages think that will bring back the housing market. My generation appears to be the last who will enjoy the bounty of American the Demcorats are driving furture generation into third world poverty status with this debt.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:16pmWow! 2-5 years? I think it will happen A LOT sooner than that!!! Term limits and NO retirement for these criminals!!!
Report Post »jamestoms
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:02pmits Over, no fix, this ride is over!
Report Post »Omaha42000
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:49pmI reluctantly agree with you.
Technically, there could be a decent “fix” but the Federal Congress, at the behest of poorly educated/informed voters, does not have a good record of cooperating to achieve a real solution, and I don’t anticipate that we will work together anytime soon. This is so sad.
Report Post »Couyon64
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:35pmWe cannot leave this mess for our children and grandchildren. We have to fix our Country now and the first step is tossing obumaz out. Then the challenges begins.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:36pmwhat are the solutions?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:41pmReplacing Obama with a warm corpse wont fix our problem we have to replace him with the right person with the right plan.
Romeny’s budget doesnt cut current spending levels. Is he endorsing the spending Obama has done or is he just ignorant to the situation we face?
Report Post »jamestoms
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:07pmToo Late!!! Arm yourself, stock food, find like minded to bind together for support.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:12amWhen this happens, we will be plunged into the U.N.”s World Order plans and whether we have Romney in or Obama in, they both would give a speech to us that says “We have tried our best to stop the tides of financial collapse, but have been unsuccessful. Our only chance is to get behind the U.N. and the IMF as they have a plan in place that will save our country…” Blah, blah, blah. If only the people would wake up to the fact that someone like Paul in this scenario, would tell the U.N. to take a flying leap. All of you Perry, no I mean, Cain, no that is not right, I mean Santorum, no that is not right either, who has the media led you by the nose to vote for? Oh yeah, Romney supporters will be to blame. I still think Paul has a chance at the nomination. We will continue to gather delegate spots and we will try our best at a brokered convention. It is not over til the fat lady sings. Listen to this supporter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0y_JFQGkq0
Keep up the fight, we can still win.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:51am@West Coast, Here’s hoping, but the message I received from his campaign says he won’t have the delegates needed to win, and Romney is only 200 away. Still he plans to take a large group to the convention to work some things out like getting rid of indefinite detention, sound money, internet freedom etc. The message is out and catching on, and people are kidding themselves if they think we’ll just go away.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 12:19amJustAngry, Sorry it took so long to reply to you. Do not despair, I think you read his meanings wrong. I believe we are still in the fight for a brokered convention. You see, rule 38 is going to be used from delegates of certain states to unbind delegates from Romney, not all but some like Arizona for instance. RealConservative?? tried to debate me on Arizona’s statute thinking it would trump rule 38, but I believe he is wrong.
16-243. National convention delegates; pledged support to candidates
A. The selection of delegates to the political party national conventions shall be as provided in the bylaws of each state party.
B. Each delegate to the national convention shall use his best efforts at the convention for the party’s presidential nominee candidate who received the greatest number of votes in the presidential preference election until the candidate is nominated for the office of president of the United States by the convention, until the candidate releases the delegate from his obligation, until a candidate withdraws from the race or until one convention nominating ballot has been taken….
With the wording in B. stating that EACH delegate will use their best effort to the candidate that won the straw poll suggests a unit rule. Some states that bind delegates have a phrase that releases three delegates, usually the super delegates that vote party line, and with that wording eliminates rule 38 from being used. In my opinion, Arizona’s does not.
Report Post »SteamedinMichigan
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:32pmOur president, the annointed one, is leading us to our doom. I can only hope history will get it right. When we had the difficult choices to make, very few of our politicians were honorable enough to do the right thing. Even the smallest mention of cutting costs had the Left crafting commercials that showed Grandma being thrown over the Cliff. That, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly why we can’t stop this train. Anyone foolish enough to try is hung in effigy – called racist or worse.
We the People, the Tea Party – are the butt of the jokes from the Left – as they ride their horses into hell itself, dragging the country with them as far as they can.
Let us hope the Tea Party can stand up to the challenge – no one else can.
Report Post »KeithOlberdink
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:12pmDon’t worry Obamao has everything under control.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:10pmfunny, Ron Paul has been saying this for years….But he’s just a crazy guy, right?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:28pmYeah how safe will Israel be if we are not in the equation at all? We wont be able to help Israel because of the chaos at home. Even worse, if we are taken over into a global type government do you really think this new global government will support Israel? What is sad is I am afraid only 10 to 15% of our population understand what is happening and what will come from it. So you almost have to think when it collapses 8 out of 10 people will be looking for food, jumping all buildings, or in full on looter mode.
I need to head to the store a get more ammo.
Report Post »another mimi
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 8:45pmSo true!
And so sad that Ron Paul didn’t have the personality, or ability perhaps, to get the message out forcefully. Maybe Tom Coburn could do better, but let’s face it, too many Americans now demand a celebrity-like figure who is cool and “hip” to be their president. I guess we deserve our tragic fate.
Report Post »CulperGang
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:07pmThis does NOT have to be our reality! Mainstreet America stop co-operating with anything that is not the rule of law. Sen. Coburn DEMAND THE ARREST of the Criminals on the HILL/PENTAGON/WH
Report Post »Arrest Bankers and take their billions and put it in the US treasury where they stole it fro. DEPORT hostiles. Russsians/Chinese/Muslims………GET PROACTIVE…….folks. Stops stanidng around for your predictions to happen!!! CLOSE TSA down/FedRes/IRS/EPA…………if you can’t then write in Paul.
AMERICA STOP WAITING FOR THE SHOE TO FALL. Stop enabling.
The Eradicator
Posted on May 20, 2012 at 2:21pmThis ^
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:06pmTom, get your head out of the Sand: As goes the EU… so goes the American Dollar!
Report Post »FromSeaToSea
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:05pmWho are the terrorists? Obummer is one………..Who else?
“I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election….It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!”
- George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress
“The more talk about world government, the less chance of achieving it because it frightens people who would accept the concept of world law.” Senator Alan Cranston, Transition Magazine
“it is world government we are discussing here- inescapable.” “A world effectively controlled by the United Nations is one in which world government would come about through the establishment of supranational institutions characterized by mandatory universal membership. National disarmament is a condition …for effective UN control.” UN, official commissioned 1961 study, “A World Effectively Controlled by the United Nations”, classified. Author MIT Professor Lincoln T. Bloomfield
“It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go….We are living in the end of the sovereign states….In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish….Countless people…will hate the new world order….and will die protesting against it.” – H.G. Wells, in his book, “The New World Order
Report Post »AustinMilbarge
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:53pmFood stores only carry a day and a half of a food supply and the National Oil Reserve will run the country for about 7 days. After that, it’s a crap shoot. Literally.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:52pmWow 2-5 years.
Report Post »I would have said late 2012 or early 2013
Europe is beginning to implode – what kind of exposure does our government, the Fed and our banks and other financial institutions. – My guess is a lot – quite possibly enough to bring our financial house of cards down.
This is not even counting what the fall out of Israel bombing Iran this year!
soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:22pmRon Paul’s budget balances the budget by 2015…. Romney’s balances the budget by 2020. Ron Pauls budget plan balances the budget through spending cuts and freezes…Romney’s balances the budget by “slowing” spending increases and assumes higher government revenue
Which candiate of those two candiates believes we have 2-3 years to get this right?
Report Post »Laken
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:43pmWhether you like Romney OR not…..it is gonna come down to HIM or Obama. I will help Romney to WIN because I LOVE MY COUNTRY!!!! Obama WILL DESTROY America COMPLETELY if he is given 4 more years.
http://www.mittromney.com/
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:06pmNot a chance in hell I’m getting behind any candidate that supports the Patriot Act and NDAA.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:13pmromney supports the bank bailouts to this day. U sure he is gonna ‘save’ this country?
Report Post »Laken
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:14pmIt’s the WORSE of two evils……I choose MY COUNTRY and hope there is STILL a chance in 4 years to have a Conservative candidate….with Obama STILL in power..there will be NO country left….
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:17pm@Laken
Report Post »I say it is time to fight socialism once and for all in the country. Mitt Romney is just delaying the inevitable (and he may weaken us). Fight it now so our kids do not have to
jakartaman
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:19pmJust Angry,
You are on the wrong blog – infowars is just a click away.
Report Post »Ron called it quits and you are angry – get over it
Its Obama and ruin or Romney with financial experience – It is the economy stupid!
Mutiny
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:22pmWhy support a candidate that puts a budget that doesnt cut current spending levels? That is either endorsing Obama type budgets or showing he is clueless on what is coming.
How safe will Israel be when we collapse? All of you are forgetting that little bit of information regarding Ron Paul’s foreign policy. We are going to collapse and this whole game ends.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:25pmIn 4 years conservatives will still be split between Libertarians, social progressives and moderates, and you can say the same thing then. We’ve already lost most of our rights. Can we say that we haven’t already lost our country without them?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:31pmI love it when liberal R’s tell me to frequent a more liberal blog. Oh and yes… no need for anyone who hasn‘t voted yet to vote and for the love of god there’s no need for you all to get involved.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:31pmWe know………you’re just angry. So am I, So are we all.
Do yourself a favor and sit back for a while and take a long look at the “Big picture”.
Romney was not my first, second, or even third choice. But at some point you have to come to grips with your disappointment and do what’s best for your kids. You did say once that you had young kids didn’t you?:
Maybe Rand will get the nod in the near future and you can get behind him. I would support him if that happens.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:32pm@jak
LOL, I am glad you people think he is out honestly. Dont waste your time and vote in the remaining states, Romney is the for sure winner. Move along nothing to see here.
Report Post »Laken
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:39pmIt is WE THE PEOPLE or THE GOVERNMENT. We HAVE been fighting and will continue to do so. It is WE THE PEOPLE who are shaking things up in Washington! They thought we would NOT care OR be paying ATTENTION…..they thought WRONG!!!!!! What WE THE PEOPLE did in the 2010 elections shook up Washington. They had paid NO attention to our phone calls…petitions…emails…faxes…tea parties…walks on Washington etc…we ARE awake…we ARE watching and the election in Nov. will make 2010 look like a cake walk. And…we WILL hold Romney’s feet to the fire because HE will be hearing from WE THE PEOPLE and we will do THE SAME TO HIM in 4 years if he chooses NOT to listen to us…..GOD BLESS AMERICA…..
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:40pm@Rights, Yeah, have a daughter I don’t want groped by government agents.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:54pm@LAKEN What good did the 2010 elections do? Have you checked out how quickly those Tea Party folks turned. Are you prepared to toss them out too?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:00pm@laken
Report Post »This is not a republican versus democrat battle. This is a big government versus small government battle. Havent you listend to what Glenn Beck has said (in non-election years)?
Laken
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:00pmKeep up with the White House Insider and the Wall Street Insider and how THEY are doing THEIR part to help bring down this administration.
http://theulstermanreport.com/
Report Post »Laken
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:10pmhmmmmmmmm???? And just WHO has been the longest Republican that was STILL in office and omgoodness guess what????….they LOST on Tues!!!!!!. We are VOTING them ALL OUT!!!!! ALL OF THEM!!!!
Report Post »Laken
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:19pmAlso …The Department Of Homeland Security Insider…..
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46516
Report Post »Laken
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:24pmHe LOST the primary to a CONSERVATIVE……THIS IS WAR and we will WIN it ONE BATTLE at a time…..Happy Trails Lugar
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/05/08/Lugar-loses-Indiana-re-election-bid/UPI-59151336464000/
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:27pm@Laken, Well best of luck to you. Lots of folks around here still adore those 2010 tea party folks despite their voting record.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:11amI am with all the true patriots on here that I will not vote for Romney. If Romney was to become POTUS, we would not be able to get a true Constitutionalist in for eight years. If Obama gets another four, we can put someone like Ran Paul as POTUS in four. Romney vs Obama as POTUS is the difference between the 2-5 years that it will take for our country to fall.
Report Post »Paul is the best answer for our current financial situation, but the regular Republicans, who are more like the liberals of the past, cannoot see this and put Isreal before our country. This is what will destroy us and then who will there be to support Isreal then? Have you all seen the movie “Idiocracy?’
West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:20amJakartaman, Quit listening to the Lame Stream Media! Paul has not quit, he is going on to Tampa with as many delegates as possible. There is still a chance for him to cause a brokered convention. The only chance to not have one is if Newt and Ricky release their delegates. Remember, those two are still in the race also. They suspended their campaign, Paul has not even done that. We will continue to fight for state chairs and delegates in every state left.
Report Post »Laken
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:41pmTake America BACK…..Change In Washington Means CHANGING The People That We SEND There
https://www.conservativesenate.com/step0?c=RP4FB32B5695CFC
Report Post »FromSeaToSea
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:42pm5 in a hundred Americans understands the truth….
“The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”
- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets
“Bankers own the earth” – Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.”
- Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister of England
“Most Americans have no real understanding of the operations of the international moneylenders… the accounts of the Federal Reserve have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and … manipulates the credit of the United States” – Sen. Barry Goldwater (R. –AZ)
“Nationalism is no longer a viable concept.” Zbigniew Brzezinski, UN CFR member, Obama advisor
“We are moving toward a new world order, the world of communism. We shall never turn off that road.” Mikhail Gorbachev
“There will be a new form of global government.” David de Rothschild, Nov. 7, 2008, World Banker
Go bye America.
Unless We exit the UN, abolish the Federal Reserve, and out all Obama-ites at all levels of gov.
Report Post »Vote st
soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:16pmno, i would say 10 out of 100 understand it. Which happens to be the same percentage that support ron paul…
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:04amSoybomb, I believe that more than 10% support Ron Paul but the vote is rigged in many ways. Just my thinking. I am a die hard Paul supporter and I believe he still can squeek out a victory if we do not take our eyes off the prize. We will get more delegate spots, and we can use the rules to cause a brokered convention. We have to remember that their are still two candidates that have not released thier delegates which could still help a brokered convention if we can get enough Paul supporters in as delegates. I also believe that Arizona delegates will not be bound as rule 38 was made for just such a situation. Arizona broke the rules by moving their primary up and hence lost half their delegates, their statute is worded in a way that breaks the rules. It states that ALL delegates must do their best effort to vote for the candidate that won the majority, where other states throw in three super delegates to be unbound to get around rule 38, Arizona did not put that language in. I believe this is a loophole that will give us the right to call for rule 38.My take on this.
We must not stop rallying for Paul and doing all we can at the caucuses and conventions. We need to take the leadership seats so we can at least work on getting the GOP back to being the GrandOldParty again.
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:35pmOne more year of Obama and his Zars……..yes……..its them, the communist or us….170 more days for George Soros to steal your votes……..if they can put this fake in our White House…..whoever voted for this phoney is a idoit, period.
Report Post »Moozmom
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:31pmHe is preaching to the choir. Enjoy everyday now.
Report Post »FromSeaToSea
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:43pmFive in a hundred understands the Truth……….
“The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”
- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets
“Bankers own the earth” – Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.”
- Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister of England
“Most Americans have no real understanding of the operations of the international moneylenders… the accounts of the Federal Reserve have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and … manipulates the credit of the United States” – Sen. Barry Goldwater (R. –AZ)
“Nationalism is no longer a viable concept.” Zbigniew Brzezinski, UN CFR member, Obama advisor
“We are moving toward a new world order, the world of communism. We shall never turn off that road.” Mikhail Gorbachev
“There will be a new form of global government.” David de Rothschild, Nov. 7, 2008, World Banker
Go bye America.
Unless We exit the UN, abolish the Federal Reserve, and out all Obama-ites at all levels of gov.
Report Post »Vote str
OTBoxer
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:20pmThe problem is and always was caused by parasitic monopolists of compulsion/coercion (pols). The solution is to make America pol-free. Info on how can be found in the book Democracy-The God That Failed.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:19pmI think the good Senator is off by a few years; given what Obama is doing, we face collapse at any time in the next year or two at most.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:12pmBut lets continue to give the Rich more and more tax breaks, because the GOP pledge to a DC lobbiest is more important than anything.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:35pmNo better yet ENCIDIOT/MOREACNE/SLEAZY HIPPO..let’s take over one sixth of the economy with a new government entitlement programme that has already nearly doubled in cost before “the treats” have kicked in. Idiot.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:43pmIts better than the GOP/Ryan plan to destroy healthcare for the sick, poor and elderly.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:47pmIt does not matter what the fed income is …. DC squanders the revenues. That is the problem- spending .. not taxes…SPENDING.
Report Post »Kirby-man
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:52pmIt’s a shame you have such a myopic view. I am wealthier than my parents, and my wife is wealthier than her parents. I would hope that our dependents become wealthier than us (though I have my doubts). The point is, it surely won’t happen by taxing the rich more and fostering class warfare. It can only happen by giving all of us a tax break which means stop the entitlements, have the states re-assert their rightful power, and get the federal government out of our lives. I am a firm believer in helping the helpless, but I refuse to help the clueless or illegals….oops was using “illegals” a racist remark? Nope, just honesty.
Report Post »BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:55pmENCINOM
Would you support having classes in public school specifically teaching honesty, respect, integrity, love, kindness, charity, and self-control? These studies would also address the negatives of greed, violence, hatred, envy, and anger. Why or why not?
Do you believe that teaching these qualities from a very young age in school would eventually lead to better conduct in Congress and also better conduct among Americans as a whole? Why or why not?
Report Post »amyb73
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:05pmLet’s continue to regurgitate the same old, tired class warfare propaganda instead of having a real conversation… That‘ll show ’em!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:14pmLet me repeat for you ENCIDIOT/MOREACNE/SLEAZY HIPPO….Obamacare has already nearly doubled in cost and the “treats” haven’t even kicked in yet. Obama crowed about getting it in under $1 trillion dollars when he signed the abysmal mess into law and the CBO just re-examined it and priced it at $1.76 trillion. Since 2010 it’s nearly DOUBLED in cost. That draining in yet you idiot?
Only to a cretinous lefty pustule like you and your panoply of screennames would nearly doubling in cost without having even gone into effect yet be something that should be ignored while you bleat about “tax breaks for the rich” as your keepers have instructed you to.
Please..dance away..
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:15pm@BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
If we could get your suggestions to be taught from day one, by teachers that actually believed in, and live by those principles, I might reconsider my views on abolishing the public school system.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:28pm@ENCINOM
How are the poor and the sick going to fare when there is nothing left to help them with?
How have the poor and the sick fared in the communist/marxist regimes?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:35pm@AVENGERK
I called Encinomunist a commie yesterday, and my post got pulled.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:57pm@Ecinom, Just pretend Paul Ryan plans to ABORT the sick, poor and ederly, then it won’t seem so bad to you.
Report Post »Azzman
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:32pmEncinom- screw the elderly, the poor, and the sick. If you are old you should have saved more. Poor people are lazy. I have neverseen a poor hord working person in my life. And our poor have TV’ AC and junk cars to ride in. Nobody in America is really poor. And to the sick, don‘t consume your weight each week in Coca Cola and Mickey D’s you just might live a healthy life.
Report Post »ImMormon
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:11pmTell us something we don’t know! We’ve been screaming this for years! Hence the grass roots movements! Any congressman or woman, any Senetor that doesn’t have the “guts” to deal with this, needs to be ousted!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:17pmYet you support Romney who doesn’t propose any cuts?
Report Post »ImMormon
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:31pmWhat are you talking about? He has talked about huge cuts… he even cut 30% of the MA state government and laid off thousands of state employees. Took a 2 billion defecit and created a surplus! All without raising taxes… he did it through CUTS! That is exactly his plan for Washington.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:41pmHmm, and Forbes said to expect 3 trillion more in debt within the decade with his proposal.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:42pm@IM Moron,
Where is Mitt’s plan in writing as to which agencies and programs he will cut?
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:46pm…but didn’t we all just dismiss the guy with the budget plan to balance the budget in 4 years and embrace the guy who is only going to spend $500 million less than Obama, adding another 5 trillion over a 4 year term?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:01pmSeriously dude, you can’t lower taxes, increase defense spending and cut the deficit/national debt. Is he planning to raise fees like in MA? I’m not buying it, but I’ll keep looking. Do you have a link? I’m often wrong, but I just can‘t find anything that suggests you’re right.
Report Post »FromSeaToSea
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:18pmDid You know the world is run by the global banking cartel for the last 200 years and since 1913 in the US? Did you know they prefer use their UN arm to enslave everyone with a one world gov. tearing down America’s heritage? Did You know Congress and Senate are afraid of these bankers?
Did You know they chose Obama even thought You thought He was elected.
Study If You Doubt.“The regional Federal Reserve banks are not government agencies…but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations.” – Lewis vs United States, 680F.2d 1239 9th Circuit 1982
“Every Congressman, every Senator knows precisely what causes inflation…but can’t (won’t) support the drastic reforms to stop it (repeal the Federal Reserve Act) because it could cost him his job.” – Robert A. Heinlein
INTEREST IS THE INVENTION OF SATAN.” – Thomas A. Edison, Inventor
“There will be a new form (one world) of global government.” David de Rothschild, World Banker, Nov. 7, 2008
“If we like it or not, we will have a One World Government. The question is if it will be achieved through consent or through conquest” – J. Warburg – ( Rothschild banker)
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” – Henry Ford
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:19pmRomney says he will balance the budget by 2020 (under a perfect scenario).
So Romney says we have 8 years. How does that sit with you?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:24pmOh here we go..”where is Mitt’s plan in writing”.
Report Post »While Obama danced and riffed with hopeenchange,” I’ll go through the budget line by line”, “I’ll cut the deficit in half”…ad nauseum ENCIDIOT/MOREACNE/SLEAZY HIPPO swooned and applauded..no “in writing” necessary. Now apparently we need it in writing?
You‘re an insult to one’s intelligence MOREACNE/ENCIDIOT/SLEAZY HIPPO.
ImMormon
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:25pmhttp://www.mittromney.com/issues/spending
He details out 800 billion to cut right of the bat. I know it’s not the 1 Trillion Paul would do, but it’s a good start. The main difference between Romney and Paul is more philosphical.
I tend to agree with Romney and I liken our country to a person that is on life support in the ICU. That ICU is costing more money to keep that person alive than the person or that persons family can probably afford. This person is also so overdosed and addicted to so many drugs and entitlements at the same time they are on life support.
Our ultimate goal is to get it off of the costly life support and the insidious addictive and deadly drugs. However that person is so weak that by cutting the life support (the fed) and the drugs (entitlement programs) all at once, that person would quickly go into shock and die.
Paul wants to cut it all now and all at once. In a perfect utopia, so would I, but I think it would kill our country.
I tend to agree with Romney‘s approach in that we’ve got to strengthen the body (small business and the middle class) and by making smaller more realistic cuts, putting the country on some good physical therapy programs and workout plans, that we can get the country strong enough to start making more drastic cuts (ending the fed, eliminate entitlements), but it will take time!
That’s my two cents and my rationale… I certainly don’t know everything, but it makes sense to me.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:28pmSOYBOMB It sits better than Obamacare nearly doubling in cost before the “treats” have even kicked in yet. Romney has sworn to repeal Obamacare and Dodd/Frank…that’s already getting the economy back on track.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:30pmI understand your fears but I am here to tell you that if government spending is a drain on the economy – there is no such thing as cutting too quickly.
You would be amazed how many things would change in our country if people knew our fiscal house was in order.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:36pmThis is why we need to take the Senate as well as the White House.
I believe that if Obama is president, he will use executive orders and by-pass Congress.
We need the Senate. This would put reins on Romney. But without Romney, Congress becomes irrelevant.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:39pmAlright, man. Maybe you’re right. We’ll see.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:39pmSorry man your information about Romney and him not raising taxes as governor is wrong. Mitt Romney raised
“Romney, in concert with the legislature, created new fees, doubled fees for court filings, professional regulations, marriage licenses, and firearm licenses, and increased fees for many state licenses and services. In all 33 new fees were created, and 57 fees were increased, some that had not been adjusted in over a decade.”
“Romney increased a state gasoline special fee, dedicated towards cleanup of contamination around underground fuel storage tanks, by two cents per gallon”
So I must ask is creating a “fee” or increasing a “fee” not a tax?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorship_of_Mitt_Romney
Watch the two videos below. You are trusting your children’s future on a guy that says these things?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FtzSmlkncM&feature=relmfu
soybomb315
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:05pm@brother_ed
I wish I could believe that the republican congress would “reign” in Romney – but that never happens. No party in the history of this country has EVER restrained the presidency of their own party.
If republicans were so hell-bent on having a constitutional conservative government, why did they nominate the most liberal candidate?
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:36am@SOYBOMB315
Excellent point.
But maybe the ‘we’ meant ‘TEA’.
With Romney, I can be hopeful; with Obama, we are hopeless.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:04pmI’m most interested to find out how the average idiotic American reacts when reality finally sets in. Are they gonna find themselves on the side of the bottom-feeder, OWS-type people, or the good guys? Will they muster enough courage to realize that there’s really nothing anybody can do about it now, and proceed with the “git ‘r done” attitude? Or, will they piss-n-moan and act like typical leftists – looking for somebody else to blame and fix their shattered lives???
Oh, this is gonna get interesting, folks.
Report Post »Ray Dalobsta
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:18pmThere will be no bystanders; everyone will be in the pool.
And it most certainly will NOT be “interesting.”
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:03pmwell if the budget consists of only those 3 things than more personal liberty in a way that could be a good thing.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:56pmUh, we are already there, the media and our elected officials are just ignoring it.
Report Post »Chrison
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:12pmYes, America is definitely on the road to disaster but, hopefully, there’s still time to fix things before a meltdown occurs. The deciding factor will be whether the American people clue-in that there’s NO free lunch and all this “spend now, pay later” will lead to disaster sooner rather than later.
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