‘Real History:’ IBM and the Holocaust

The newest BlazeTV “Real History” documentary Friday builds off Edwin Black’s book “IBM and the Holocaust,” that chronicles what he believes to be the evidence that shows IBM was complicit in the Holocaust. The claims that ancestors of the company we know today as IBM helped Nazis identify and round up jews by designing computer programs to assist with that effort, is shocking. Black, the son of holocaust survivors, says that concentration camp tattoos were originally IBM code numbers.

IBM today firmly condemns the atrocities of the Holocaust, but still questions some suggestions that Black’s book may present, as expressed in a statement from spokesman Doug Shelton in response to the BlazeTV documentary:

IBM and its employees around the world find the atrocities committed by the Nazi regime abhorrent and categorically condemn any actions which aided their unspeakable acts.

It has been known for decades that the Nazis used Hollerith equipment and that IBM’s German subsidiary during the 1930s — Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen GmbH (Dehomag) — supplied Hollerith equipment.  As with hundreds of foreign-owned companies that did business in Germany at that time, Dehomag came under the control of Nazi authorities prior to and during World War II.  It is also widely known that Thomas J. Watson, Sr., received and subsequently repudiated and returned a medal presented to him by the German government for his role in global economic relations. These well-known facts appear to be the primary underpinning for these recent allegations.

IBM does not have much information about this period or the operations of Dehomag.  Most documents were destroyed or lost during the war.  The documents that did exist were placed in the public domain some time ago to assist research and historical scholarship.  The records were transferred from the company’s New York and German operations to New York University and Hohenheim University in Stuttgart, Germany — two highly respected institutions with the appropriate credentials to be custodians of these records.  Independent academic experts at these universities now supervise access to the documents by researchers and historians.

Based on everything the company has seen to date, there appear to be no new facts or findings that bear on this important issue and period.

IBM takes the allegations made by the author very seriously, and looks forward to and will fully cooperate with appropriate scholarly assessments of the historical record.

Watch the “Real History” documentary and discussion Friday on the claims made in Black’s book:

Comments (74)

  • deadend
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 3:21pm

    The presant employees of IBM should feal no more guild then presant day Americans should feal for the Indians or slavery, the Turks for the killing of the Armenians or the new generation of Germans for the holocuast, nore. If you weren‘t alive and you weren’t involved you should not be guilty or responsible. Period

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    • Hugh Williams
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 4:28pm

      Well said!

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 6:19pm

      If IBM is guilty then we should all stop buying Bayer aspirin.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 6:31pm

      Edwin Black needs a real job. IBM was not around to print the Nazi cards, despite what Black says. He is an ass. For “Real News” to promote this drivel is an embarrassment. It is a shame this Glenn’s programming is skewed to untruths.

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 11:11pm

      This isn‘t about assigning guilt it’s about understanding the truth. That truth is that even people in the US are capable of some of the greatest evils in history.

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    • DebGal
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 11:19pm

      Period!

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  • jaelge
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 2:46pm

    Oh boy! Another target for the Jews never ending hatred and another reason for their perpetual feeling of entitlement. Now I suppose Israel will be hunting down potential past employees of IBM for further trials and exocutions.

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    • Hugh Williams
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 4:27pm

      Thanks for illustrating the sick thought process of a narrow minded racist bigot.

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  • OperationNorthwoods
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:18pm

    Looks like skull and bones alumni and Grandfather of GW Bush, Prescott Bush was also involved in helping the Nazis.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

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  • ScienceIsNotEvil
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 11:46am

    When will the Blaze / GBTV do a piece on the Real History of Mormonism?

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    • OperationNorthwoods
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:21pm

      Google “Temple of the God Makers”. It exposes a lot of the occult practices and symbols related to Mormanism.

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  • OperationNorthwoods
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 11:26am

    Here’s a picture of Watson and Hitler having a nice lunch together.

    http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRW51VTMyrq5oOHaM-Kt_0kJ7ANajwM906Q9HT45eLAZvfp7t8bEw

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  • hi
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:43am

    Wow!

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  • Sol Invictus
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 9:36am

    Computers (which weren’t invented then – the first one was developed by an Englishman, Alan Turing, at Bletchley Park) don’t kill people, people kill people.

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    • GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 9:52am

      Pascal developed a mechanical computer in 1642, you must be trying to pigeon hole it to electrical computers.

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    • Sol Invictus
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:16am

      Ground zero – you’re deliberately missing the point, but to keep you happy “Abacuses don’t kill people, people kill people”.
      This is one of the most pointless stories in the “Dubious History” series, trying to move some of the blame for the holocaust to anyone but the psychopathic killers of the Nazi regime.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 1:03pm

      Computers in WWII… had Two flavors… Digital & Analogue… where the Digital version was programmed using Wire Connectors (alike RCA male plugs)… where the Analogue versions used Gear Cranks (deadly for shooting down US Aircraft)… and where this was combined in the Famous ENIGMA Coding Machine!

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    • dirtydog1776
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 8:38pm

      Alan Turing invented the computer and was openly gay. Maybe we can throw a person’s sexuality into the game of blame and name calling?

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    • TulsaYeeHaw
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 11:59pm

      No Sol Invictus, an abacus will kill someone. If thrown hard enough!!

      TA DA BOOM

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  • 4EverHis
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:15am

    Take a look back further before WW2, Henry Ford was a most vicious anti-Semitic who in the 1920’s used his newspaper The Dearborn Independent to publish lies about the Jewish People. Ford then turned these publications into a series of books, the first being called
    The International Jew: The World’s Foremost Problem. The Nazis embraced these writings, lies, and Ford essentially had fed the evil propaganda used against the Jewish people. From what Ive read, Ford eventually issued an apology for publishing the seminal anti-Jewish slander, but his company’s German automotive works produced vehicles for the Nazi war machine throughout the second world war and donated money directly to Hitler, who kept a picture of the company founder in his office.

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    • Corwin of Amber
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:23am

      Tickle me, Elmo!

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    • cassandra
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 11:03am

      4EVER Ford also brought many Arabs to Mi. to work in his factories

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    • BO_Bill
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 11:20am

      And what, exactly, did Mr. Ford write that was… wrong?

      The International Jew writings have nothing but praise for the intellect and ability of the Jewish ethnicity.

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    • christos
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 3:05pm

      To 4EVERHIS – And who’s mother was involve with the Ford grants,,,connect the dots,,,someone should make a Educational Quiz board of the Trail of Anti Semetic Business & donors since & including during the Holocaust the same players are surely still on board,surely the Mossada could be of some help on that research,,it is amazing how many Americans are Anti Semetic,,,Why they where brought up that way Why,,,,,,,Jealousy is all that comes to mind.The anti +CHRIST+ will possibly come from the tribe of Dan,,,he will trick Israel into signing a peace treaty & you know the rest of the story if not it’s in the New Testament.

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  • floradaze
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:07am

    It was interesting that eleven countries were in control of the records of the people involved for enough years to make it very hard for any relatives to find out what happened to their families.
    In the early days of online genealogy when it was mostly free I was shocked to find out who those countries were.

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  • Godzgrl247
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 4:31am

    I read this book by Edwin Black years ago. Shortly after, I learned that IBM was behind the technology being used by Scientist to aid Native Americans in being able to determine their blood heritage. I thought the endeavor was suspicious and wrote my concerns to one of the tribes that were being used in the project and never heard back. I will just remind that it is in the Bible NOT to get involved in endless geneologies. Our creator showed us more times than one how this information could be used against us.

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    • idarusskie
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:23am

      yet the same bible list genealogies of Christ, Abraham, Issac, Jacob, and king David to name a few..

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  • BO_Bill
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 2:40am

    IBM bows to the New World Order.

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    • MRMANN
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 5:18am

      Yes, IBM goes NWO. I find IBM’s blandly oblique denial of its responsibilities of participating in the holocaust nauseating. They need to come clean, not just blame the German Reich.

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    • S.Sailor
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:00am

      IBM bows to the “almighty dollar”……only…..

      However, they will occasionally drop to their knees to garner favor from the “powerful” in the pursuit of mega-profits…..

      Capitalism……gotta’ love it…..

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 1:06pm

      IBM employs the Best Liberal Minds… and is part of the NWO!

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  • christos
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:38am

    The United Sates has the blood of 47 million aborted/murdered babies on it’s hands,,,is that where the equation of 1/3 of the entire population will be wiped out in the Bible comes from,,,can you even imagine how mad +JESUS+GOD+ is over just the abortion/murder/holocaust….FOOLS.

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    • ScienceIsNotEvil
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 11:48am

      Why do you excuse all the blood on the hands of your deity? Or do those killed in that flood you believe in not count for some reason?

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    • christos
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 2:45pm

      To SCIENCEISNOTEVIL—…….+JESUS+GOD+ are Sovereign +JESUS+GOD+ Created everything +JESUS+GOD+ is the only +ONE+ uncreated hard for you to understand because you don’t Believe,,see how far science will get you when the 7 Seals in Heaven are Opened — FOOL.

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    • christos
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 2:56pm

      Cornerstone Church Pastor John Hagee spoke of the business connections that where involved with the Holocaust 16 years ago.

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  • christos
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:31am

    IBM is Filth and they have the blood of the Holocaust victims on their hands they are a Cursed company with bad energy,

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    • christos
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:51am

      …Remember IBM +JESUS+GOD+ Warned no one was to number +HIS+ people,also remember the Angels ascending and descending on the ladder from Heaven to Earth are you going to try & number them also,,,,FOOLS.

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    • TAXEVERYONE
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:06am

      And you sir sound like a moron.

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    • christos
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 2:47pm

      T o TAXEVERYONE – And you must be Anti Semetic,,,I will wear you insult like a badge of Honor Thank You.

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  • christos
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:30am

    Heard about IBM involved in aiding NAZIS in church 16 years ago,,,IBM should be held accountable also the Jewish people need to sue & own IBM,,,I will Pray & ask +JESUS+GOD+ to take vengeance on IBM,,,IBM should go to jail and all of their assets seized and given to the Jewish people,,,I would not own a piece of crap IBM if it was given to me,,,

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    • LiveNation
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:13am

      You must be a MAC….. Play any good Play Station video games lately?

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    • christos
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 2:49pm

      To LIVENATION — Truth is shocking to some,,,you must be an Anti Semetic,,,there where plenty of Big Businesses aiding and abetting Hitler,,,people like you for instance.

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  • Leader1776
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:26am

    The problem with multi-national corporations …… no ethics or loyalties to countries or good behavior. Just profit.

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  • AUsername
    Posted on June 30, 2012 at 12:18am

    Neo Cons say the Muslim Brotherhood paid off Hitler to do it and than some of the libertarians say the Rothschilds international banking cartel paid off Hitler to kill jews to get them to inhabit Israel. i would like to know the truth than the criminals get their punishment for it. Corporations are not ethical at all they will do anything to make money and this can happen in America if the corporations could make a profit off of it.

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    • handsmcml
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:57am

      Corporations are not moral or immoral by their very definition. They are artificial legal entities usually designed to make a profit. They are, however, run by people and these people have a moral obligation to do what is right. Sometimes doing what is right is to admit that they have done wrong, to admit that mistakes have been made. Technology is neither good nor bad, moral or immoral, by itself. It is how people use that technology.

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  • leonardo44
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:41pm

    great segment, i had not read or seen anything on IBM’s role that facilitated genocide.
    chilling.

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  • valleyfever
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:56pm

    Wasn’t this just assisting the German govt in the collection and cataloging of profile data on citizens. What do you think the internet is doing with us right now. Modern technology lets them know what color your underwear is today. Wake up people its the same thing.

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    • newview
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 1:53am

      With the new ACA Health Care bill your doctor can see by your IRS staement whether you are “worth” care.

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  • Hickory
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:48pm

    I don’t think IBM was in to much programming in the 1930s. They did a lot of tabulation machines but those were just punch card sorters and not much more. But, you may want to look into what Burroughs was doing.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:50pm

      Punch cards were used to find and round up Jews in France. IBM was complicit.

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    • Hickory
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:09am

      The Nazis also used light bulbs made in the US. Your point Elena is not valid.

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  • Brasil2520
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:41pm

    This is no big surprize, many countries wanted Deutschland to win the war.
    We just didn’t come out and say it, and after Europe lost the war, much of the pro Deutschland help that we gave them wasn’t talked about anymore.
    It would take all night to list all the 30+ countries and people that helped Deutschland, like the Pope of the 1930′s – 1940′s and even the Pope of today, King Edward, Hugo Boss . . .

    Here is a link to show just a part of how us Portuguese helped Europe, we did much more like with supply, I had a great video from the 1930′s about “The Blue Division 250th” to show but it got removed from Youtube, I guess it was too much truth to show.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Division

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 9:08pm

      Should have known my post on this topic wasn’t going to make it… lol
      Damn right anyone with a brain not permeated in Jewish propaganda had to been hoping for a German victory.

      How many more Wars will the Jewish/Zionist banksters and Media moguls send the unsuspecting US GIs off to fight for their interests?? lol

      Lots of money to be made by the War Machine today…

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    • tzion
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:16pm

      @Tech
      I’m sure the Polish, of whom 3 million were murdered by the Nazis, would agree with that precise sentiment.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:35pm

    IBM of Germany was the Computer Nazi Giant… and after WWII, IBM of the US received IBM of Germany as “war reparations”. And, while the US Computer Industry had bypassed and invented New Technology (Stack Mechanism; MultiProcessor, MultiProgramming; String Memory)… the IBM Giant overpowered the US Competition with IBM Corp Weath = Value… which was BS, and set back the Industry!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:50pm

      In reality… the PC… the Intel Processor & MB design… is based upon the B5000 of the Burroughs Corporation… as used in the ILLAC IV. IBM is better at Marketing and Government & Corporate Connections… than at Creating Products!

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  • John 1776
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:30pm

    Yes, likewise, after WWIII and the defeat of the caliphate, we will uncover a long list of American companies and individuals that aided and abetted the enemy.

    As for IBM, since the bulk of it’s achievements occurred after the war, the fact that a small per-cursor company that was working on printing and sorting ended up trapped behind a government does not seam like much.

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    • welloddyfriggindah
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:44pm

      Yep, the IBM of the last 60 yrs is a different animal from it’s ancestors that were confiscated by the Nazis.

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    • tradcatholicgirl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:06pm

      Agreed. There doesn’t seem like there was any great conspiracy or evil doing here. Many people, including heads of state for several countries, made the mistake of trusting the third reich in its pre-Poland invasion days….give it a break.

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    • newview
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 1:49am

      Unless we shipped them the cards and/or equipment. Where were the cards made back then. Anyone know?

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  • Truth Wins Every Time
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:27pm

    This may be the same book I read, it is copyrighted in 2001 so it may be it. I just do not remember that book cover pic.

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  • MajorLeagueInfidel
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:15pm

    Sry Beck/Blaze posting this crap is almost as bad as what MSNBC has been doing.

    -1 Blaze

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:03pm

    So? American made equipment is being used to shoot Christians all Over The Middle East. Archer Daniels is filling us full of GMO’s,and our government is paying to abort babies in a babies Holocaust.

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