‘Real News From The Blaze:’ Time to Get Rid of the IRS?
- Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:56pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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The Treasury Department released a report this week that suggests supervisors in the Internal Revenue Service turned a blind eye to fraud in a program designed to collect taxes from immigrants, legal and illegal, resulting in the agency handing out potentially unlawful refund payments. The Wall Street Journal reports:
The management failures—including a focus on processing applications quickly instead of accurately—allowed the creation of fictitious identities, meaning that some people who didn’t qualify ended up with a taxpayer identification number, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration found. The result could be fraudulent tax returns, the report said. It didn’t quantify the number of such returns, if any, or the extent to which people may have received tax refunds they didn’t deserve.
The report examined one corner of the tax system, a segment that consisted of 2.9 million returns last year and resulted in $6.8 billion in refunds sent to people with taxpayer identification numbers. It is likely to add to existing concerns about identity fraud in the tax system, even though the IRS has indicated it plans to take many of the proposed corrective measures.
The IRS has recently announced a series of improvements that will take effect immediately on an interim basis in response to the Treasury findings. This is the same agency that is tasked with being the enforcement arm of Obamacare, enforcement that has been previously discussed on “Real News From The Blaze,” as incapable of applying fines, levies or criminal prosecution.
In light of the most recent report regarding supervisors’ lack of eagerness to detect fraud, along with longstanding criticisms of the agency, is it time that conservatives take a harder and more public line against the IRS? “Real News” debated this question Friday:
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Airbornedevildog
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:00pmThe solution is simple we used to be a comsumer taxed country but now we are a producer taxed country. Get rid of income tax, get rid of the wastefull IRS and billions in bogus tax returns and just charge a federal sales tax…. no gaping tax holes, no IRS to pay for and you are only taxed on what you spend, which for most of america is almost every penny anyway.
Report Post »wwwDiscentus
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 6:05pmA 5% Federal Sales Tax on all items would bring in an incredible aount of money. Plus eliminating the cost of running the IRS, reducing the added accunting cost of business and people would not have to hire accountants, H & R Block, etc. would create “new” money that would help stimulate the economy.
Eliminating the IRS would create a whole new class of totally unemployable people but it would be worth paying their unemployment benefits to be rid of them, and a lot cheaper!
Report Post »KIOTI-TEXAS
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:21pmWe need a simple tax for all this is the answer…All pay the same, a flat tax period… Corporation, Banks and all THE people..All pay 5% flat tax where we are all treated the same ……Who needs the IRS…..Send Them To Europe………………….
Report Post »Longhorns62
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:08pmA national sales tax is the only solution. It would make illegal activities i.e. drug dealers and prostitution even have to pay taxes. Exempt food and medicine.
Report Post »mudguy
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 11:48amThey have been talking about doing away with the IRS for years. It well never happen.The reason I don’t think they ever do away with the IRS is that the main reason is control of the people and it is the best way of control. And they won’t give that up. The IRS is like a drug that our government is addicted to and I think there is no rehab program that will break the addiction .
Report Post »CulperGang
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:43amFAIRTAX is fair. If you cannot afford it you cannot buy it. THAT will give incentive for the person to work hard/think hard and create. Like in the 1800s. Which made America GREAT.
IT IS NOT FAIR to tax a 200K earner MORE than a 20K earner. That 200k earner put in MORE TIME and time is valuable(once it it gone you don’t get it back. Time is priceless). 20K earners are that way because they have no incentive to get to 20K.
Report Post »The politicians of neither party is going to change the taxation system that is ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-SOCIAL, because with all the obscurity built into the IRS/FED-RES………..the politicians can Rape the AMerican taxpayer and the system. The American politicians are your ‘terrorist.“ They are the ”ROBBER BARRON” of the 21st century.
azcowboy1
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 7:16amFix the IRS and tax system later. One step at a time please. We need to balance the dam checkbook. NOW! We’re spending more than we make.
Report Post »Cheeus K. Rist
CulperGang
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:48amYou cannot balance the checkbook. it is not designed to be. It is designed to keep the people thinking we are broke, so that they can keep you churning out more in your labor so they can take it.
WE ARE NOT BROKE. THAT IS A LIE. The government holds TRILLIONS in assests that belong to the people, but are in the pockets of the FEDR…..cabal of 13 families. WE are already their serfs.
LOOK FOR GOV., INVESTMENTS AND ASSEST…(all done with your tax)………we are truly not broke.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 4:06am“The IRS has recently announced a series of improvements that will take effect immediately..”
Report Post »Oh crap! You know what that means….“improvements”=screw-job!
DHLeake
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:28pmWhen you say you are in favor of a “flat tax,” or even Cain’s 9-9-9 plan, you are saying you want to KEEP the IRS. Every one of the so-called reforms being proposed is a tax on income. Who enforces income taxes? The IRS.
There is only one plan — currently with 70 co-sponsors in the House — that eliminates all forms of taxation on income and eliminates the IRS. That plan is the FairTax (H.R. 25/ S.13). Look into it. Under the FairTax, you will see a 29% or greater increase in your take home pay. Prices of goods and services will come down when taxes are no longer built into production costs. You will pay federal taxes only at the cash register, and only on NEW goods and all services. Used goods and education are not taxed. A “prebate” feature protects the poor, and the FairTax extends the lives of SS and Medicare.
The FairTax — Understand it. You’ll demand it.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 2:32amThe Fair Tax…. is a Flat Tax upon Consumption… which hits the lowest incomes the hardest, as everyone requires the Basics! The Fair Tax… is NOT FAIR!
Report Post »grickm
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:19pmTime to Get Rid of the IRS? Waaaaaayyyy past time. the “progressive income tax” is one of the points cited in the “Communist Manifesto” by Marx and Engels. The lefties got the country to go along with it a hundred years ago, and look at the horrible results — 60,000 pages of gobbledygook that no one fully understands, that lets the federal government grow like Topsy, pick winners and losers, and overall take away some of our liberty.
Report Post »klatoo
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:17pmYeah they otta get rid of the IRS. Geitner don’t pay his taxes no sweat. I don’t… it’s jail time. That lying Harry Reid ray_ped a young girl under 13 in New Jersy back in 2007. I heard that from a reputable Bain investor. He has immunity. What the F_*k
Report Post »Govt_Lies
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:59pmAs long as the liberals have a strangle hold on major media, eliminating a major government agency will not happen. Seriously think of what can be accomplished if the media would go after government fraud and waste, as hard as they hammer Palin, Bush, and defend Obama.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:45pmwell what we could also do is dump Romney and vote Gingrich, Perry Cain or Paul for nomination cause they had flat tax proposals.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:39pmwhy is this being talked about when its only libertarian and tea party republicans that want to change the tax system to make it more simple and they don’t yet have a majority.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:18pmFraudulent tax ID numbers also means fraudulent voters.
Report Post »MadPolock35
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:52pmI believe a 15 maybe a 20% flat tax.. From that 3/4 would goto the state and the rest to federal. With a yearly balace sheet of where the money goes. Term limits on everyone in political fields. And how bout paying our so called representatives a starting salary of $30-40k a year and if they do well. Have a poll if we should give them a raise.. :-) And how bout having bills introduced under 25 pages. Anything over 25 pages you get smacked and told to revise your thoughts.. ..
Report Post »constitutionisbest4all
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:29pmI think a giant leap toward fixing our problems would be to pass an amendment requiring a 10 year sunset on all laws passed by congress. Make it retroactive and then every 10 years they would have to look at the laws and see if they are still valid or needed. If so re-pass them. That would get rid of all the junk in our system, keep congress from passing so many laws(because they would be busy looking at retiring laws) and it would only cause us to have to live under bad laws for 10 yaers max.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:48pmRomney has been completely against flat tax in the past. He likes the progressive tax code (Romney wants to keep tax code progressive
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/romney-vows-maintain-progressive-tax-code)
Doesnt theblaze feel any sort of hypocritical when they push Romney but at the same time disagree with most of his agenda?
Report Post »MAX0O1
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:26pmAND TELL ME STUNADA DO YOU want to continue with the destructive Obama commie,
Report Post »CHICAGO THUG administration?
lefty5005
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:43pmIf we can get the senate and retain the house then Obama is neutered anyway. The only problem is he can nominate SCJ’s and I think Scalia would retire if he thought a decent judge could be nominated. We need to get Romney in there and hold his feet to the fire. The ultimate embarrassment would be to have someone else nominated after a first term and conservatives can hold that over his head. The big problem with Obama is we know nothing about the fool and to go from crap to gold so quickly reaks of a major conspiracy at the national level. These blogs and all our posts are probably all for naught. I think the book has already been written but am not sure about the ending.
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:47pmI would like to see a Flat Tax for everyone except for Ron Paul and anyone that voted for him………
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:53pmthen that wouldnt be a flat tax. Are you on drugs?
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:12pm@soybomb315_II
Thats what is knowen as the Flat Tax and Fair Tax.
And Narcotics use is the center piece of the Ron Paul campaign, and not of anyone that Loves Freedom and Liberty. So to answer your question, I don’t use drugs, and when you see how it destroys others, you wish that on no one………..
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:38pmhow about for everyone except those that murder people hmm….. or bully people for a living hmm…..
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:55pm@bryanb
Report Post »Government cannot solve the problems of society
Delores at CH WV
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:43pmIRS? While you are thinking about getting rid of this institution, could you please get rid of all of these robot drones; they remind me of the END of DAYs?
Why are we wasting money on all of these drones; we have 100 million people on welfare? Homeless people? Jobless people? Who approved all of the spending for the drones, training, and such? Let me know, I want to protest at their homes. Their family needs to suffer too.
What is the need for all of these drones? I think several psychologists need to study these folks who developed these drones; they seem mentally ill to me. I think we should lock them up before they arm these robots with bullets and kill us all! They seemed to be like the same nuts that shoot religious leaders and citizens trying to enjoy a movie.
Why isn’t Obama trying to take their 2nd Amendent rights away from these mad scientists? Oh! I forgot, he is their fearless leader. He gets to add to his execution list everyday. I hope Americans wake up and see this man for what he is.
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:11pmWhy does the government have drones? To intimidate law abiding citizen…oops, I forgot to watch for the terrorists that lurk everywhere. Don’t you know the government is there to protect you.
We should all feel comfort now because anyone that talks about getting rid of the IRS or government regulations is now a suspected “militia” member and a potential domestic terrorist. I am sure the government is collecting all of the posts on this article and keeping them safe for future use. I am so glad my government is out to protect me.
Report Post »Bobaz
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:25pmThe IRS invented the ITIN to coax illegals to come in and reveal the SSN’s that they were using to secure work. I worked at the IRS for a time and worked on the customer service counter where the ITIN’s were given out. Illegal greasers were using other people‘s SSN’s in order to work and then the people whose SSN’s were being used would get notices of additional tax assessed on the money the greasers were earning. I remember one young girl. She gave up five SSN’s that she was using in exchange for an ITIN. It was a sham fifteen years ago and it’s still a sham now.
Other than sales tax, illegals don’t pay taxes. They never have and they never will. It’s time for the “FairTax”.
Report Post »kcinco
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:31pmSadly, this doesn’t surprise me. We have criminals running our government now, every vein of it, including the white house.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:23pmwhy do they even talk about this – Mitt Romney is against the flat tax AND the fair tax….In addition, Mitt Romney will not eliminate any departments. So why does theblaze talk about it?
Report Post »Bobaz
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:28pmYou are right. Romney is an “establishment” Republican and will tow the line to keep the Democrats happy.
But, the alternative to Romney is infinitely worse.
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:33pm@soybomb315_II
How do you know what Romney is going to do ?
You spend all your time following Ron Paul and the Master Race………
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:19pmGet rid of the IRS and The Federal reserve and make the cuts listed in my link below and we will NOT NEED AN INCOME TAX!! Everything listed in the link is unconstitutional; anyway.. http://www.dailypaul.com/127677/abolish-these-federal-departments-agencies-programs-grants-bureaus-commissions-administrations-offices-foundations-etc
Report Post »bdandsl
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:42pmWow, six pages of depts. we could live without. It’s a good start.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:14pmWhoa, I love the IRS, I don’t think we should be putting down such a fine institution as the IRS. ……..OK, I don’t think they are listening now. The IRS Stinks to high heaven. What would be nice is to get rid of tax credits for anything, and to simply go to a flat tax on all income over $40k Say a 10% tax. no decuctions, just a flat tax. But then again, who would our politicians have as an attack dog then?
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:37pmSorry, Darmok, abolisth the IRS (that‘s one way the gov’t tracks you), the FED, 2,300 departments and agencies (I don’t know the actual number, but it would be fun to see them try).
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:45pmflat tax makes too much sense. Both parties would rather keep the corrupt tax code so that they can point fingers every 4 years
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:06pmQuincySmith:
Report Post »I am with you, but SHHH, I have already been audited once in the last few years. Not fun, but then again, they didnt find anything either. Just cost me a few hundred for a CPA.
hi
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:14pmSomeone close to me became a homeless alcoholic because of an aggressive IRS agent and nearly died. He is doing well now, Praise the Lord. But, when I see this, it makes me so angry. I’m so sick of the fraud, deception, lies, and abuse. That should be the platform of the Democrat party: Fraud/Deception/Lies/Abuse.
Report Post »Stelex
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:13pmThe IRS is a totally unconstitutional entity. They have way to much power and must….MUST be eliminated. 15percent flat tax, no deduction or loopholes. Wake The Heck Up AMERICA. Your getting soaked and if we got together we could end it. There are alot more of us than them, they just have the power, we have the power of many, why do you think they divide us………Don’t be a useful idiot. WAKE UP AMERICA
Report Post »happygranny
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:18pmI am in favor of the FAIR TAX that would collect from EVERYBODY! No more IRS, no April 15th, no audits, no more business decisions that are made based on the tax ramifications vs. what is best for the company. However, I don’t think DC has the guts to pass this one.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:26pmGet rid of the The Federal Reserve and IRS and make the cuts listed in the link below and we will NOT NEED AN INCOME TAX!! Everything listed in the link is unconstitutional; anyway.. http://www.dailypaul.com/127677/abolish-these-federal-departments-agencies-programs-grants-bureaus-commissions-administrations-offices-foundations-etc
Report Post »Optimist4now
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:07pmTime for the “Fair Tax”
Report Post »Time for Mr. Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan.
Time for major tax reform.
Time to abolish the IRS
Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:06pmWho cares , its only monopoly money…………….
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:03pmSince the sixteenth amendment to the U.S constitution wasn‘t properly ratified the IRS should be abolished because they’ve been collecting taxes on our income since the sixteenth amendment was supposedly ratified.
http://thelawthatneverwas.com/
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