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‘Real News From The Blaze’: Voter ID Law Debate
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dmerwin
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:30pm“The report found that there are about 1.8 million dead people listed as active voters. Some 2.8 million people have active registrations in more than one state. And 12 million registrations have errors serious enough to make it unlikely that mailings based on them will reach voters.”
Report Post »This is from the NY Times of all sources. This is the reason we need real election reform.
Take away the cost argument by having states provide picture ID free for people who are currently on any form of public assistance, to include a copy of their birth certificate ONE time. Allow the parties to provide transportation to the state offices to accomplish that.
Pass laws that require a copy of the death certificate to go to the elections department and purge the dead people each month. Require surrender of one driver’s license (and voter registration) to obtain a license in another and require states who issue licenses to notify the original state of residence to purge that voter from the rolls. This is not rocket science and these practices continue to occur for ONLY one reason, voter fraud.
dmerwin
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:42pm“One employee told the FBI that ACORN headquarters is “wkg [working] for the Democratic Party.”
According to one report, an ACORN employee said the purpose of “[f]raudulent cards” was “[t]o cause confusion on election day to keep polls open longer,” “[t]o allow people who can’t vote to vote,” and “[t]o allow to vote multiple times.”
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:46pmThe Obama Youth guilty of voter fraud? Why that’s just not possible. No, we’ve given it considerable thought and it’s simply not possible.
Except that it is.
As you may know, Minnesota has a goofy law that allows any Tom, Dick or Abdul off the street to vote as long as someone else comes along and vouches for them. Yeah, it’s probably the dumbest election law in America, but this is Minnesotistan we’re talking about, so don’t be too damn surprised.
Students at the University of Minnesota, students associated with B. Hussein Obama’s “Organizing For America,” now stand accused of –- prepare to be shocked — vouching for people they didn’t really know. This is, of course, a felony in Minnesotistan.
Report Post »http://www.ihatethemedia.com/is-obama-organizing-for-america-guilty-of-voter-fraud
dmerwin
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:49pmIn Harris County, Texas, the voter registrar admitted that 20 percent of voter registration forms submitted by liberal activist Houston Votes had problems. Election whistleblowers from True the Vote are now being investigated by the Obama Justice Department and have been slapped with an ethics complaint by the Texas Democratic Party and a left-wing billionaire George Soros-funded group called Texans for Public Justice.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:50pmA retired Bell police sergeant claimed in a lawsuit filed this week that off-duty Bell police officers in the 2009 election distributed absentee ballots to voters and told them which candidates to select.
The allegations are contained in a lawsuit filed by James Corcoran, who says he was forced out of his job for informing authorities about the officers’ actions as well as for a variety of other actions that he says top city leaders did not like.
Report Post »http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/07/former-bell-cop-alleges-serious-voting-irregularities-in-2009-election.html
Evantoo
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:24pmIt is easy enough to take the obituaries and list the names of those deceased who were of voting age when death occurred and go into the polling place in which that person had resided and vote using their name.
Report Post »Similarly, it is possible for a person to register a name in one voting district, go on to another voting district and register under another name, and continue doing so until tired of it. To vote all they would have to do is remember which name and address they used at each and they could, theoretically, vote in as many locales as they could get to in a given day. Unless they used a surrogate- which would be just as possible.
The only way to actually stop fradulent voting practices would be to have a photo ID that was scanned into a data base which would prevent the same photo ID from being used twice. A second way would be a national data base of retinal scans- no two people have the same retinas. Or an electronic thumb print working the same way.
It would only stop people who didn’t register their retina or their thumb print. And that could be done at any police station or postoffice in the country.
But don’t expect it to happen. Liberals, Democrats, and their ilk don’t WANT a fair and impartial voting system. They’d find themselves out of office after 1 term, and many of their supporters in jail for attempting to commit voter fraud.
Make it a serious felony with a permanent prohibition from future voting should it be committed.
dmerwin
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:40pmOne other simple way, purple ink with NO mail in or absentee voting.
Report Post »Cascadia
Posted on March 17, 2012 at 3:18amLet’s say we just go the route of many Indonesian elections…Every vote that is cast, the thumb is inked BRIGHT & indellible – unwashable for a time-
Report Post »Thus… One Man One Vote.
Problem solved – No skin color, No religion, No race, No politics One Man One Vote.
sixtysix
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:43pmWant to know which party wishes to use voter fraud to get their politicians elected, look for the ones who don’t want voter IDs. It will be harder for them to get dead people, senile people, people who vote more than once, felons and any other fraudulent votes counted. The stuffing ballot boxes in Florida did not work. They can still get votes counted from ineligible people or people who vote early and often.
Report Post »2WarAbnVet
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:04pmWhenever voter ID laws are proposed Liberals go ballistic. They don’t actually believe that voter ID laws discourage voting and disenfrancise minority groups. They only seek to cover the actual reason they protest those requirements. Voter ID laws disenfrancise several core democrat voter groups: illegal voters, nonexistent voters, felon voters, and dead voters. This last group, dead voters, is of paramount importance; it can be counted on to vote in every election, and to always vote Democrat. When you consider that it is comprised of nearly two million voters, you can see how vital it is that Democrats discourage ID laws at all costs.
Report Post »Larry E
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:59pmMaybe I’m just too stupid to understand, but if a person is insufficiently bright or ambitious to get picture ID why should they be allowed to vote? Most places give picture ID for no charge, but of course if you have to have picture ID it makes voting early and often a lot harder. That means that a lot of votes for Demorats won’t be made, which I guess means that it’s racist to not let people vote multiple times.
If people want to vote, elections aren’t kept a big secret, they should be able to register before election day and get photo ID. Otherwise I‘m a little suspicious of them and how many times they’re voting.
Report Post »ICEDRAGONNITE
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:46pmIf a picture ID is to tough for a person to get. Then I say we need to allow lumps of ectoplasm to vote with no questions asked.
Report Post »That would be an absolute mockery of our right to vote. With a right comes obligations. The obligation to have suitable id recognized by the state involved, equal under the law. Ease of obtaining is regulated by
going to DMV getting a voter Picture ID card. No cost but must have proof of birth.
If this process is to difficult! Do you really want that person to vote on a complicated issue? I don’t.
kabenninger
Posted on March 17, 2012 at 12:33amSo well put – with rights come obligations. Besides, I thought it was called “loitering” to be in public without some sort of legal picture ID – which I thought was against the law.
Report Post »essay
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:08pmYou have to have a picture ID to vote in Mexico.
Report Post »Chevalier
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:18pmand if you go there illegally, you wind up in jail. . .not voting in their elections.
Report Post »RandomRambler
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:59pmDuring the republican primaries here in FL a local TV station reported that that although they had not served in jury duty because they were not citizens, they were registered and voted. That is voter fraud. How many others in the rest of the country do this ? Is anyone checking the voter applications? There is no E-Verify to check if a voter application is duplicated within a state or in the country and if the person signing is even a citizen.
Report Post »Lone Ranger
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:50pmWell, of COURSE democrats oppose voter ID. Illegal immigrants, dead people and felons vote as a bloc for democrats. It would also cut the legs out from under outfits like ACORN.
Report Post »stonecarrier
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:49pmok you have to show i.d to buy sudafed. i agree with the person who said that the only reason to oppose this law is to facillitate voter fraud. do they really think the American public is that stupid
Report Post »witsend
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:33pmOnly a true racist would see racism in a requirement for a photo ID to vote! Anyone who is eligible to vote can get a photo ID with little (or no) cost or effort. As others have commented, we need a photo ID for gazillions of other reasons; I really do not understand why anyone doesn’t have one.
Report Post »RME KRNL
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:28pmPhoto ID to vote is a good idea. You already have to show photo ID to buy alcohol, tobacco and I think when you apply for food stamps, as just some examples, so why not when you exercise one of our most cherished rights under our Constitution and vote?
Report Post »1776_2012
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:27pmThere is only ONE reason to want to vote without an ID. – FRAUD
Report Post »RME KRNL
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:30pmI can’t think of any other reason, either.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:40amThey can’t get an I.D. because they’re LAZY AS HELL!
Especially when it comes to black folk. That entitlement mentality has caused self-enslavement among blacks in this country. Fredrick Douglas would be P.O.’d with the people, if he were alive today.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:32amThe BOGUS argument that voter ID is the Republican way to “suppress” votes makes me sick! The ID’s are FREE to anyone who can not afford one. I saw this young Hispanic woman complaining about how she has to get food first.. SMOKING and driving a pretty nice car. HELLO? If you can afford cigarettes, you can afford one stupid photo ID. You need that to buy your CIGARETTES, don’t you? This is all about the left and their ability to continue the voter FRAUD. Why would ANYONE object to showing an ID to insure the integrity of our most IMPORTANT right? Our constitution says you have the right to vote IF you are a CITIZEN of the USA… so PROVE IT!
Report Post »franel
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:05pmhow can she drive that nice car without a license….isn’t that photo ID? I don‘t know any state in the Union that doesn’t have pictures on their licenses. Unless she doesn’t have a license, then that’s another problem
Report Post »dianna9490
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:32amYou can get an IDENTIFICATION CARD for FREE! If you are too lazy to get it then you will also be too lazy to go VOTE! EVIDENTALLY DEAD PEOPLE GO AND VOTE! HELLO – NO PHOTO ID – THEN YOU NO GET TO VOTE – ITS NOT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT! This is because Soros and Obummer can have loads and loads of DEAD PEOPLE VOTING – VOTER FRAUD – why – OBUMMER SAID IT HIMSELF – “HE STILL HAS 5 MORE YEARS” – WHAT A JOKE!
Report Post »jackiegus
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:45amThe democrats argument here is that getting an id is an inconvenience and they don’t want to stand in the lines. Great argument! Better argument (and probably more to the point) she then says “Isn’t a LITTLE voter fraud worth enfranchising more voters”
This is TYPICAL DEMOCRAT refusal to be responsible citizens.
Report Post »jackiegus
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:40amThe states gave rights to the fed and can take them away…Obama has NO RIGHT to tell Texas what their laws regarding voter identification can or cannot be. Texas should sue Obama for abuse of the court system.
Report Post »The fact is,, that adults need id to:
cash a paycheck OR a welfare check.
buy alcohol or cigarettes
get into an R rated movie
open a utility account
open a bank account
receive money from western union (rules require govt issued id)
So all day long a person would need id to prove who they are and if they are old enough, if questioned about it. I think the only ones protesting would be the ones that would benefit from voter fraud.
Bloody Sam
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:53amYou forgot “buy non-prescription Sudafed at a pharmacy”.
Report Post »franel
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:06pmand you also forgot get on a plane
Report Post »leasecommander
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:41amThe U.S. Supreme Court addressed this issue in 2008 with the state of Indiana and found in the favor of the state. So if Mr. Holder and Mr. Obama are filling suit again it is just to be able to allow non-voter ID for this years election. They know they can’t win this in the Supreme Court….politics as usual from the democrats !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »BillyPenn
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:04amIn addition to Holder (DOJ) blocking voter ID laws in Texas and South Carolina, the NAACP is taking
Report Post »the anti-voter ID issue to the United Nations Human Rights Council. Members of this council include,
numerous dictatorial countries in Africa, also, China, Cuba and Russia. Who better to decide this issue then the experts on voter fraud, voter intimidation and suppression . Since the left is fighting this issue so aggressively, you have to wonder what they are afraid of ?
ishka4me
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:23amThings you need an i d for; cash a check, play little league, fly on a plane, drive a car, take out a book from library, see a movie, buy a beer, buy a cigarette,go fishing, buy an over the counter cold medicine, visit a doctor; but you don’t need one to vote. The democrats are tryting to steal the election by allowing illegals and the dead voting again in this election
Report Post »jackiegus
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:04amIsh, I totally agree. The fact is that id is a fact of life and isn’t a tool, its proof of personhood..it seems reasonable to expect that when voting.
Report Post »dianna9490
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:34amI personally DO NOT CARE WHAT THEY TAKE TO THE UN! I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE UN SAYS ABOUT ANYTHING – HILLARY HAS HAD HER LAST JOB IN POLITICS FOR THE USA – AMERICANS ARE SICK OF HER CRAP TOO!
Report Post »franel
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:08pmSince when does the UN dictate what Americans do? Did I miss something?
Report Post »walkandtalk
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:12pmThe UN has no place in this. Taking this argument to the UN is declaring the United States does not have jurisdiction on this matter. It is a ploy to say the UN not the United States has authority over the citizens of the individual states. It is defiance of State and U.S. law. It is an attempt to deny the right of sovereignty of the United States and States rights upon which this nation was created. It is an attempt to deny our autonomy as U.S. citizens. Now is the time for all Americans to say NO, this is my country and state to the U.N. you need to acknowledge you have no authority in this matter.
Report Post »allen0617
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:55amIt seem to me there is a lot of Illegals collecting welfare, foodstamps and maybe medical bennies and when a person applies for these bennies the welfare departments hand the applicants a “VOTER REGISTRATION CARD” or atleast in Oregon they do. Makes me wonder how many illegals are already registered to vote AND would this make the Welfare Dept. guilty of voter fraud? Just a question.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 6:50amWhen I go to vote, and I mean everytime, I am met by a cadre of old ladies that pounce on me for my IDENTIFICATION.. And I mean pounce. There would be no way in hell that they would let me vote without scouring my id and photograph and carefully comparing it to my white face. Yes that’s right. Only whitey has to show his fricking ID . All others get passes because of their color. What? Ask a young black man or Hispanic for his ID? “Why you dissin’ me mane?” It is the ONLY way that they can compete as a group with Whitey. Lower standards for them, higher standards for Whitey.
Report Post »EP46
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:39amHolder seems to believe that the only question on the ballot will be who to vote for for potus. Well Eric, it is not only important that each person is a ‘legal voter’ it is also important that each person vote in the proper place. Each state…and each county …has many other items on the ballot. We will choose Senators and Congressmen but we will also vote on such things as raising the sales tax, or raising property taxes, or who will be school superintendant….these are important issues and I do not want people voting to raise my property tax if they do not live in my county, and I do not want them voting for president of the US if they are not citizens.
Report Post »burnbabylon
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:50amPhoto I.D.? Would a wanted poster do?
Report Post »burnbabylon
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:04amWe shall over come… if we can vote as often as we want to.
Report Post »Yes we can, (Si se puede)… prove that we are losers who can’t get a photo I.D.
You can’t take my picture! YOU’RE STEALING MY SOUL!!!
The dog ate my drivers license.
Anamah
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:22amIs Eric Holder kidding?
Report Post »Anamah
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:20amAre Eric Holder kidding?
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