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‘Religious Bigotry’: These Are the Differences Between the Medias‘ Treatment of JFK’s Catholicism & Romney’s Mormonism

Editor’s Note: This is an exclusive report that was produced by the Media Research Center’s Culture and Media Institute. The research and subsequent article was conducted and written by Paul Wilson.

During the 1960 presidential campaign, Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kennedy was attacked for his Catholic faith, then viewed by many as subversive and un-American. Anti-Mormon bigots are now targeting Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney for his Mormon beliefs, which are now viewed by many “progressives” as a “transparent and recent fraud.” But in those 50 years, the role of the media has changed significantly.

A June 2012 study performed by American National Election Studies (ANES) found that 43 percent of liberals would be “less likely” to vote for a Mormon candidate for religious reasons. An essential point, given how often news outlets highlight Romney’s religion.

These Are the Differences Between Romneys Mormonism & JFKs Catholicism

In 1960, major media outlets refused to tolerate religious bigotry, characterizing it as “bilge” and calling its practitioners “small-minded and prejudiced persons … not representative of America.” In 2012, supposedly “mainstream” outlets have given opponents of Mormonism a platform to call the church the “Salt Lake City empire of corporate greed,” obsessively labeled Mitt Romney as Mormon, and even engaged in anti-Mormon bigotry themselves. These anti-Mormon voices have been amplified by the liberal echo chamber.

The difference is more than 50 years – the difference is politics. In 1960, media outlets defended Kennedy, who was part of a faith whose members traditionally voted Democratic. In 2012, those same media outlets are attacking Romney, who belongs to a faith whose members typically support conservative causes and vote Republican.

 

Media Defended JFK’s Catholicism Then…

In an April 21, 1960, speech to the American Society of Newspaper Editors, then Sen. John F. Kennedy spoke about the role of the press in fanning the flames of religious prejudice, declaring: “And the press, while not creating the issue, will largely determine whether or not it does become dominant – whether it is kept in perspective – whether it is considered objectively – whether needless fears and suspicions are stilled instead of aroused.” The nation’s top news outlets heard John F. Kennedy’s plea, and sought to quell suspicions about Kennedy’s Catholic religion. Even before Kennedy’s iconic Sept. 12, 1960, speech to Protestant ministers concerning his Catholic faith, major media outlets defended Kennedy against demagogues who attacked his religion.

The New York Times blasted religious bigotry in a Sept. 4, 1960, editorial titled “As the Campaign Opens,” stating: “There will always be in any election and between elections small-minded and prejudiced persons who have a neurotic compulsion to feel superior to somebody or an urge to blame some racial or minority group for their own individual failures or misfortunes. But these people are not representative of America. They have rarely determined elections in the past and they will not determine the one that is coming. Millions of Catholics, Protestants, Jews, and people of no formal faith will testify that prejudice cannot be endorsed in this country without doing political damage to the persons or candidates who endorse it.”

These Are the Differences Between Romneys Mormonism & JFKs Catholicism

The Washington Post was equally intolerant of religious prejudice. In a Sept. 2, 1960, editorial titled “Debasement of Politics,” the Post called religious attacks “bilge.” The paper declared: “It is hard to gauge the influence of this kind of material in a political campaign. Probably it evokes a response only in those who want to believe it – that is, in those whose prejudices make them hospitable to such appeals. It is doubtful that this kind of appeal can be countered on any rational basis. But there can be no doubt whatsoever that it debases the political process and does irreparable damage to the fabric of social unity.”

In a Sept. 9, 1960, editorial titled “Negative Thinking,” the Post observed a group promoting religious bigotry: “It professes to be in favor of the separation of church and state; but it is doing its utmost to inject the consideration of religion into the politics of the Nation. It professes to be in favor of religious freedom; but it argues that if a man belongs to a particular Church he is not free to become President of the United States.

Nor was disapproval of religious bigotry confined to print outlets in 1960. NBC contributors also decried religious bigotry. On the April 24, 1960, telecast of the NBC program “Meet the Press,” reporter John Steele asked the Democratic presidential candidate from 1956, Adlai Stevenson: “Governor, there is one other issue, a dark and ominous one, which seems to hang over the whole business of selecting a president this year. It is the issue of religion. Has this really got any place in the business of politics?” On Nov. 6, 1960, Nixon’s campaign manager, Leonard Hall, was asked on “Meet the Press” to condemn anti-Catholic literature circulated by groups unaffiliated with the Republican campaign.

Below, watch TheBlaze’s editor-in-chief Scott Baker, faith editor Billy Hallowell and Matt Philbin, managing editor of the Media Research Center’s Culture and Media Institute, discuss these issues:

…Anti-Mormon Bigots Now

Fifty years later, the major news media have aided and abetted religious attacks on the faith of the presumptive Republican presidential candidate, and have even joined in making those attacks.

In a June 18, 2011, editorial ostensibly decrying prejudice against Mormons, The Washington Post expressed disdain for the Mormon church, complaining: “There’s plenty about Mormonism that might strike a non-believer as strange or objectionable. Is it literally true that an angel helped Joseph Smith find a sacred book made of golden plates in rural New York almost 200 years ago? It is not to the church’s credit that it fought same-sex marriage in California or that it banned African Americans from its clergy until 1978.”

These Are the Differences Between Romneys Mormonism & JFKs Catholicism

Long past Mormon history was of particular interest to the Post. The paper’s Sandha Somashekhar went back 150 years to tell the story of a massacre committed by Mormons – in 1857. On Feb. 28, 2012, the Post’s Jason Horowitz raised the specter of Mormon racial history. On Feb. 16, 2012, Horowitz profiled “excommunicated Mormon” Helen Radkey and her quest to “expose” Mitt Romney’s Mormon ancestors and their posthumous polygamist marriages.

The New York Times also encouraged anti-Mormon bigotry. Times columnist Maureen Dowd’s March 17, 2012, op-ed, headlined “Is Elvis A Mormon?” criticized Mitt Romney for not personally condemning the practice of baptism of the dead. Dowd also attacked Romney’s Mormonism in an Oct. 18, 2011, op-ed titled “Anne Frank, A Mormon?,” citing vulgar liberal comedian and Obama funder Bill Maher: “Bill Maher bounded into territory that the news media have been gingerly tiptoeing around. Magic underwear. Baptizing dead people. Celestial marriages. Private planets. Racism. Polygamy.”

Dowd was not alone at the Times in spreading anti-Mormonism. Columnist Charles Blow tweeted to Mitt Romney “stick that in your magic underwear!” (He was forced to apologize for his comments.) In a Nov. 12, 2011, article in the Times Sunday Review, Professor Harold Bloom attacked the “Salt Lake City empire of corporate greed.”

Nor has religious bigotry been confined to print. MSNBC, the left-wing sister network of NBC News, has attacked Mormons on numerous occasions. MSNBC “The Last Word” host Lawrence O’Donnell mocked Mormonism on April 3, 2012, as being “created by a guy in upstate New York in 1830 when he got caught having sex with the maid and explained to his wife that God told him to do it.” (O’Donnell was forced to apologize for his comments.)

These Are the Differences Between Romneys Mormonism & JFKs Catholicism

(AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File)

MSNBC “Hardball” host Chris Matthews portrayed Catholics and Mormons as “cultists” on March 13, 2012, and declared: “They are willing to outsource [defeating the President] to a Mormon … It’s almost like calling up India or somewhere in the third world to get your computer fixed. You don‘t care who’s fixing it, just fix the damn computer.”

On Feb. 28, 2012, MSNBC contributor and Salon.com editor Joan Walsh mocked Mitt Romney’s faith over Twitter. (Walsh initially tried to defend her comments, but later apologized.) On April 19, 2012, MSNBC anchor Martin Bashir snidely cited the Book of Mormon to declare Mitt Romney as a liar in danger of damnation: “Given what the Book of Mormon is clearly saying, Mr. Romney has but two choices. He can either keep lying and potentially win the White House, but bring eternal damnation on himself, or he can start telling the truth.”

It is telling that major media outlets have promoted anti-religious prejudice against Mormons, while their journalistic predecessors refused to tolerate such “bilge.”

 

The Echo Chamber Howls

Anti-Mormon attacks aren’t confined to major news outlets; they’ve become commonplace in the liberal online world. So-called “progressive” media outlets have taken up the “magic underwear” banner. Left-wing media outlets have taken their cue from the mainstream media, launching vicious attacks on Mormons.

Politico’s Dylan Byers, in his May 18 column “When will we talk about Mormonism?,” demanded more media scrutiny of Mormonism, calling for a “national conversation about the Mormon faith, including its past practice of polygamy (which was renounced by the church in the 19th century) and its exclusion of African-Americans from the priesthood (until 1978).” Among liberals, this “conversation” has consisted of attacks on and misrepresentations of Mormon doctrine.

These Are the Differences Between Romneys Mormonism & JFKs Catholicism

Attacks on Mormonism attempt to paint Mormons as backward. In an April 16 piece, BuzzFeed’s McKay Coppins (ironically, himself a self-identified Mormon) used Mormon teachings on gender as a club to bash Mormons for not being progressive, declaring: “These doctrinally-defined gender roles aren’t entirely unique — they’ve been preached by various sects for centuries — but Mormons have proven uniquely unwilling to bend them to fit modern times.” On April 10, Coppins had previously argued on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports:” “There are also verses in Mormon scripture that teach that dark skin is a curse from an angry god and Mormon leaders used to teach that black people were less valiant or less righteous in a pre-mortal life.”

Other liberal outlets simply mocked Mormonism, or defended the right of liberals to do so. On April 3, Time Magazine political columnist Joe Klein declared that Mitt Romney’s faith “leads him to be mistrustful of the outside world,” and bashed the candidate for baptism of the dead and “the underwear.” On April 9, Salon’s Alex Parenne fretted: “everyone who has ever made a ‘magic underwear’ joke will be declared an intolerant liberal bigot.”

 

News Media’s Faith Double Standard

When Sen. John F. Kennedy ran for president in 1960, the major news outlets urged voters to see him not for his faith, but for who he was. It was a major moment for journalism. Had news outlets embraced bigotry against Kennedy, perhaps he would never have even won election.

But in 2012, that history is lost on many in the news media. While the outlets might still be pretending they have a similar mindset, they do not. Journalists have repeatedly underlined Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith – far more than they have for candidates of other religions – as a shorthand way to set him apart. And news outlets have done far worse, serving as mouthpieces for anti-Mormon hate and embracing it themselves.

Anti-Mormon bigotry is even more inexcusable coming from journalists who claim to revere the memory of John F. Kennedy. MSNBC’s Chris Matthews wrote a book extolling the virtues of the Catholic John F. Kennedy, yet emulated anti-Kennedy bigots by labeling Romney a “cultist.”

The hypocrisy is puzzling, or would be if it weren’t obvious that journalists will only defend the faith of a liberal Democrat running for president.

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  • jujubeebee
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:55am

    I took Bloomberg Businessweek’s last magazine cover and article on the Mormon Church and the timing of it to be a political statement by their magazine.

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  • phillyatheist
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:44am

    let’s face it, all Religions believe in some whacky stuff. in that regard Mormonism is no different – it’s just newer. it’s no more a cult than Pentacostalism is a cult, which is to say that they’re pretty much all cults. these are BUSINESSES out to separate you from your money…slowly. the cults that get blown up are the ones who are trying to get rich quick. most businesses that try that approach fall on their faces. it‘s the slow and steady approach that’s kept Christianity going for so long. the good thing is you get something for your money. you get to believe. you get to have hope in an afterlife. you get to think that your loved ones are in a better place. these are all wonderful things and good for you if you can swallow all the magic whole.

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    • joel228
      Posted on August 2, 2012 at 2:41am

      I’ve never seen or heard of anything wackier than the idea that chemicals somehow mysteriously and magically came together in such a way that life began. To top it off that pretended first life never decayed and died but just divided and got better and better and more cooperative with other divisions of the same first cell. This over a supposed 3.5 billion years. Absolutely amazing that anyone could believe such nonsense.

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  • Individualism
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:37am

    Mormons also practiced socialism. Catholics are to be concerned as well because of their past and some of their practices as well.

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    • RedNeckMormon
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:54pm

      It is called the “Law of Consecration” you glittering jewel of ignorance and it is nothing like socialism.

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  • Individualism
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:36am

    LDS have a history of bigotry and their book has quotes of bigotry so that is something to be concerned about like the Koran.

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  • dimbulbz
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:16am

    Ah, the joys of political and religious rhetoric. It will alwys be there. Romney isnt forcing his religion on anyone9iugc, you can say its all a lie, you can accept it if you choose to believe it. Why some people consider it a personal assault on them for someone not to think the same thing they think is bizzarre. It lies at the heart of what is wrong with us right now, and people who claim to beleieve in the constitution are clearly not getting the idea behind what freedom means. It also mean freedom to worship s you see fit. If you wish the government could shut down churches that you dont approve of, perhaps you could supply us all a list? Do you want freedom or to establish a theocracy? Mitt is a good man. You are not voting for his religion, you are voting for his political direction. Since Harry Reid and Mitt share the same religion, but have very different political views, I cant see why there is a problem. Do you despise the science of Einstein because he was a non-christian Jew?

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:39am

      Which candidate do we want leading us into the New World Order..which is.. the whole world under the authority of one Comnunist government..It has been going on since before Germany..Why do you think that the secret societies are secret? Do you think that they are planning a nice little surprise for us? Bet they are.. FreeMasons..bilderbergs..Skull and Bones..Thule and Vril..etc..Kennedy was not an obedient Catholic and with Bobbys prodding decided to print our own money (issuing an executive order to do so) by-passing the Federal Reserve..We know what happened to him and Bobby..same as to Garfield and Lincoln. and attempted on Andrew Jackson.. No problem with either of these two boys..they are backed by both, and both have connections to these secret societies..Mitt is a good Mormon..Here is a former Mormon’s take on the Mormon Church..Those of you who are interested..it is worth your while to read to the end. http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2226.cfm

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:53am

      @ashes to ashes
      Kennedy was not an obedient Catholic and with Bobbys prodding decided to print our own money (issuing an executive order to do so) by-passing the Federal Reserve..We know what happened to him and Bobby..same as to Garfield and Lincoln. and attempted on Andrew Jackson..
      ________
      In my research awhile back I ran across the fact that Kennedy bypassed the Federal Reserve. I was SHOCKED as I believed the GOP Elite crap that ALL democrats are bad. What a GREAT GUY Kennedy was for doing that.

      After all my researching which I doubled down on because of Glen Beck’s Fox TV show which I liked very much, I have came to the conclusion that BOTH the GOP and the Democrats are corrupted from within. The GOP members are not 100% corrupt like the dems are but they are close – how else can anyone explain Romney/McCain/Murkowski/Snowe/Collins/Brown/Graham/ and the list goes on and on of pure RINO big government NOT conservative GOP members.

      Does ANYONE HONESTLY BELIEVE that Mitt Romney will by pass The Fed?
      He is so far up their behinds he needs flashlight to see.

      This election is depressing as hell. Too bad Mormons don’t believe in hell – although Obama does as a Muslim.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:23am

      @ LAMELIBERAL Rothschilds,Shell Oil , Kuhn Loeb Bank.Thule and Vrile,Brown Brothers and other NWO companies funded Hilter..who killed 13 million Jews.dissidents.Catholics.gypsies.union workers and gays..laundering the deads possessions and the ones whom they sent to Palestine through the Catholic Church ,,keeping part of the money in Germany and sending the rest into Palestine for the money to be made there. Rothschilds backed the Bolsheviks in the Russion Revolution where 20 million Russians were murdered..The Rothschilds are said to be from the Tribe of Dan..prophesied over by his father Jacob as being the serpent that bites at the heels of the horse causing its rider to fall back.The Rothschilds are behind the NWO and are of the secret societies like the Mormon engaged FreeMasonry. Here is there history in the United States.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1_L30JXpaY
      This is how they suckered us into these eternal wars.for greed..power and world domination
      .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28tE0fKpISM

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:56pm

      He has a freedom to worship and a freedom to believe.

      I have the freedom to not want to be represented by someone who I think belongs in an insane asylum. This goes for Christian, Jew, Mormon, Muslim, and those crazy scientology people.

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  • Jack Rackham
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:11am

    Left wing media always attacks religious belief (except Islam) it’s nothing new. I don‘t however think it’s helpful for mainstream Christians to attack the faith of Mormons based on doctrinal differences (yes I know they are huge differences). Instead judge Mitt and all Mormons; and for that matter all people on their actions and values, not on the murky beginnings of their religion or differences in doctrine which we may disagree with.

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    • rosegrower
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:27am

      Actually, the left uses moral equivalency to first make all “religions” the same – that is, they consider Satanism to be morally equivalent to Judaism and Christianity, then turn around and denounce all religions as superstition and coercive. They forget that one Philosopher stated, “by their fruits ye shall know them.” As far as Mormonism is concerned, I can’t say whether or not the religion is “Christian.” What I do know is that most Mormons are as honest as they come (this was why Howard Hughes only hired Mormons – he knew they wouldn’t steal or disclose privileged information about his businesses to the press) and take stewardship of other peoples’ money and property seriously. These two attributes make Romney a worthy candidate for the Presidency, in my opinion.

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  • mixplix
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:09am

    I see the media using anything to get the left back in the WhiteHouse and religion is just one of the tools to do this while the GOP watches the on the job training of the current resident.

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:08am

    @LameLiberals
    I don’t know. I can find at least as many things that are “un-biblical” in the Catholic church as I can in the Mormon church.

    The Catholic church was created by Constantine as a way to consolidate all the religions of the area into one. He needed that adherence in order to make the empire stronger.

    Just because the Catholic church is older and therefore has become more widely accepted doesn’t make it any more “Christian” that the Mormons.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:24am

      @QP..the Catholics have their problems..they keep the truth from their people with regards to saying that that Jesus founded the church upon Peter..a falsehood..the church was founded upon Jesus the Christ..Son of God.,that the church is the believers..not some building or one man..it is anyone who believes ..The Catholic Church also has its member committing idolatry for praying to the Saints and Mary..and for having graven images which they kneel to and pray..I witnessed first hand recently how they lie to their members..but if they tell the truth about Peter..then they lose that Peter as first Pope stance..Peter was never a Pope,,He was an Apostle..Mormons are a completely different ballgame.
      John Kennedy was not an observant Catholic..he seemed Catholic in name only..Romney is a good Mormon..He does take his faith seriously..He is a high priest..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVUIolP-9s
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:24am

      ALL Christians – whether Baptist, Methodist, Epsicopalian, Catholic believe in:

      ONE heaven – Mormons believe in 3 heavens and Christians are NOT invited into top tier.

      ONE Hell – Mormons do not believe in hell

      One Bible – UNCHANGING bible. Christians do NOT follow any other book like Mormons do their Doctrine &Covanent & book of Mormon. It is blasphemous for Christians to believe in other books.

      Christians believe women get into heaven on their own. Mormon women must be “invited” by their husbands to get in.

      Christians believe after death – you do NOT have children. Mormons continue to have spirit children after death.

      Christians believe men are inferior to God. We permanently seat at his feet. Mormons believe after death and before death, if they are “good” they can become god. After death they rule other planets in preparation as god. Eventually if they are good enough they can surpass Jesus Christ who is after all a lesser god.

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    • Jack Rackham
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:32am

      The Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ, it’s never helpful when people pull out that tired old Constantine nonsense. Martin Luther was a well meaning but mistaken individual who created the concept of sola scriptura which is the reason we have so many different churches all claiming to posess the true Christian doctrine. But arguing over religion between faithful believers is pointless, instead it’s more important to focus on the values that we share in order to make this world a better place.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:42am

      @LameLiberals
      Actually, the Bible mentions seven heavens and none of them are a sort of Jack and the beanstalk land “up there” beyond the clouds. Yahshua said no man has ever gone to heaven except the ONE who came from there.

      The very foundation of the Catholic church is based on the idea that Peter was the apostle to the gentiles and that he was the head of the Church at Rome. The Bible says that Paul was the apostle to the gentiles and Peter was the apostle to the Jews. In fact, there is no Biblical indication that Peter ever even so much as visited Rome.

      The Catholics pray to dead people and bow down to statues. They incorporated all the Pagan holidays and changed the Sabbath to the first day of the week.

      Before you start taking the mote out of someone else’s eye, you might think about getting the plank out of your own.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:45am

      JACK; Agree with you. LAME is well named AND he is just trying the Democrats 2012 Plan B : Divide the “ Dumb” ( Democrats brand all conservatives that way ) Republicans.

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:03am

      @barber2
      What a whiny little xxx you are. You can sling it but cannot take it just like your man Shxty Mitty.

      You have to ask “Jack” to validate your statements proving you are a maggot who needs to be told you are right and cannot think for yourself.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:15am

      @LameLiberals
      If you’re talking about where barber2 said “JACK; Agree with you….”, he wasn’t trying to get anybody to validate anything. He was simply stating that he agreed with someone.

      Perhaps you need to polish up on your comprehension skills.

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    • Joey8
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:24am

      @lame liberal
      Let’s look at your points.
      1. “Christians” believe what Christ taught. In my Fathers house are many mansions. I have no problem believing in a just and merciful God. I believe all men will be judged according to their actions, opportunities, thoughts, and words. I believe you can be a good person and be an atheist, but I believe that it’s only through a belief in Jesus Christ that you can be an heir of God and joint-heir with Christ.
      2. I don’t know why this lie is so popular. I just did a search of the word “hell” and found 16 entries in the New Testament and 34 in the Book of Mormon. Odd.
      3. It’s funny you say “unchangeable” Bible when there are so many different versions. It’s pretty obvious that one book is all we need to clear up the confusion and have the “one Lord, one faith and one baptism”. You spend a lot of time researching the Book of Mormon but you seem pretty oblivious to how we got our Bible. I don’t believe it was all that God intended for us to have, just read the last verse, last chapter of John.
      4. I don’t think you represent Christianity when you say you believe women get to Heaven on their own. I think most Christians would believe with me that it’s only through Jesus Christ. It doesn’t matter what anyone else says, husband or wife, God is the judge.
      5. Let‘s just say the Bible doesn’t say either way on this one
      Continued…

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    • Joey8
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:32am

      @lame liberal
      Continued
      6. It‘s funny that you try to add your own twist to Jesus’ teachings to try and make them sound crazy. Jesus’ apostle taught that if we suffer for Christ, we can be heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ. We don’t teach that it means getting your own planet or becoming greater than God, that’s your own distortion. You don‘t have to believe it but you can’t deny it is in the Bible. It doesn’t take anything away from God and anyone with children of their own that they love can understand a father wanting the best for their children.
      Anyone interested in learning about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can go to Mormon.org or email me wrastler8Juno.com. When I want to learn about the Baptist church, I don’t go to “ihatebaptist.com”.

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    • yohannbiimu
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:34am

      JACK RACKHAM: The Roman Catholic church does NOT follow as Jesus taught in the scriptures. The early church did NOT have a priesthood, nor did it teach celibacy as any prerequisite to serve in the church.

      The Bible says NOTHING of Mary’s perpetual virginity, and in fact speaks of Jesus’ brothers and even sisters: “Whence hath THIS man this wisdom, and these mighty works? Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not ALL with us?” (Matt. 13:54-56). Clearly, to put Mary in any status other than one of the many faithful TO Jesus (as Catholics uphold Mary as “Mother of God,” and with a high place in heaven on a similar status with Jesus) is gross heresy.

      Jesus and his disciples did not found the church as Roman Catholics practice it. You cannot find Biblical precedence for either its priesthood or its virtual deification of Mary. Also, Martin Luther’s initial issue with it was due to the selling of indulgences, which is also gross heresy. How many souls were damned to hell because of that doctrine?

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    • Joey8
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:50am

      And as a Mormon, I have to defend the Catholic church because if it is a cult started by Constantine, what doest that make all the other churches that broke off of it? What authority does any other church have if they claim the church they broke off of is apostate. At least the Catholic church can claim authority from Jesus to Peter and so on. And you want to claim the Bible is perfect but the church that compiled the Bible never had authority, can’t have it both ways. No man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:12am

      @Joey8
      “And as a Mormon, I have to defend the Catholic church because if it is a cult started by Constantine, what doest that make all the other churches that broke off of it?”

      The daughters of Babylon.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:16am

      To all of the atheists commenting above: Sorry that religions such as Catholicism and Mormonism get your undies in such a twist. .Most religious people honor the practice of different religions. Apparently, that is not possible for a fanatical atheist who sound as dangerous as a religious fanatic. Guess the operative word is fanatical ! ( think someone needs an anger management class )

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:28am

      @JOEY8 Yeah just the same way if I want to learn about Obama…I go to the Obama site..Your founder was told by a spirit that all Christiandom was apostacy..now I consider that Mormons go by the book of Mormon to be an Apostacy.. God our Father was not a Mormon..neither was Jesus..And The Mormon Jesus and the Mormon god along with Joseph Smith will not judge us on the last day..neither was Jesus married to three wives siring many children of whom Joseph Smith claims direct descendancy. THe Bible does not teach that God was and is in heaven having endless celestial sex producing billions of spirit children..That sir is an apostacy against God and Jesus..The Mormon End of Days prophecy where the banks fail and the Constitution is in peril..where the white horse mormon (Romney) rises up to save the day and rules the entire NWO by withholding or giving food.. FreeMasonry Sir.. Guess it was time for a Mormon who would commit a felony by intimidation to other delegates to vote for him or risk prosecution by purgery..Guess that law degree worked out for him huh?

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    • Joey8
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:52am

      @ashes
      Lol, that was the most incoherent babbling garbage I’ve ever read on the internet. I’m not sure if you were asking for a date, or telling me you like ice cream. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:34pm

      @Joey8
      ashestoashes was simply trying to explain that jhdilw djs mxzjf kjiqwpio kdsksjgli4 azxhr pzkvm gtp feijronc fdjod.

      Plus the fact that
      kfdlfdi fdnbwe brmns kd5rhjysk mmjgrxp fdst.

      Hope that clears it up for you.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:42pm

      @JOEY You know exactly what I am talking about..You can marginalize me all you want..it doesn’t change the facts of what Mormons beleive..
      @QP..You can drown in your ignorance with your head in the sand QP I really don‘t give a rat’s behind

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:28pm

      @ASHESTOASHES

      I’ve been a Latter Day Saint for quite some time.

      I’ve sat through countless meetings, read much of Church history, listen to the semi-annual General Conferences past and present.

      I have yet to hear any of the things you say that we believe coming from the pulpit.

      I have never heard anyone say:

      “Aren’t you excited to get your own planet?”
      “Too bad those nice people in other churches aren’t going to heaven.”
      “God must really hate you – you’re black.”
      “I can’t wait until polygamy is reinstated, I want more mother-in-laws!”
      “Gay people scare me.”
      “Once we have a member as POTUS then the plan of a 15 year old boy from upstate New York can finally be realized and the NWO ushered in.”

      Some things you mention are true, but are twisted in such a way as to make refuting them impossible with such limited characters. I can only say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing; incomplete knowledge leads to errant conclusions.

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    • by faith
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:37pm

      Yohannbiimu
      The early church did not have priesthood? Really? Priest date back to cave paintings
      “The Bible says NOTHING of Mary’s perpetual virginity, and in fact speaks of Jesus’ brothers and even sisters” Is not HIS MOTHER called Mary. Not is not their mother called Mary. All 4 men you named have mothers listed in the Bible and 2 of them are the children of Mary. No not that Mary, the Mary who is Clopas’s wife. The other 2 are sons of Zebedee. Besides on the Cross Jesus said behold you mother to the apostle, why did He forget He had brothers who could take care of Mary?

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    • by faith
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:38pm

      Mass in 155AD

      Description of the mass as it was celebrated in his day.
      “All who dwell in the city or country gather in the same place. The memoir of the apostles and the writings of the prophets are read, as much as time permits. When the reader is finished, he who presides over those gathered admonishes and challenges them to imitate these beautiful things. Then we all rise together and offer prayers for ourselves…and for all others, wherever they may be, so that we may be found righteous by our life and actions and faithful to the commandments, so as to obtain eternal salvation. When the prayers are concluded we exchange the kiss [of peace]. Then someone brings bread and a cup of water and wine mixed together to him who presides over the brethren. He takes them and offers praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and for a considerable time he gives thanks that we have been judged worthy of these gifts. When he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all present give voice to an acclamation by saying: Amen.” When he who presides has given thanks and the people have responded, those whom we call deacons give to those present the ‘eucharisted’ bread, wine and water and take them to those who are absent.” Quoting Justin Martyr “First Apology” pages: 65-67 written: 155AD
      Sound like a Catholic Mass to me.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:21pm

      @qp & ashes: where do you get your information about the catholic church? jack chick publications?
      I also find it interesting that both of you would defend a heretical faith but as proud protestants you would defend anything except catholism.

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  • Nebraskatypewriter
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:08am

    The thinly veiled bigotry directed at Mormonism in the main stream media is indicative of the media’s position towards religion in general. The secular materialist ideology that animates the political left and much of the media has, as one of its goals, the removal of all religion from the public square. That this position is in opposition to the First Amendment means little to the secular leftists, who continue to utilize the Bill of Rights to protect themselves while working to destroy those rights for all others.

    The attack on Romney‘s Mormonism is but a small part of the secular left’s overall plan to work against individual freedoms as enumerated in the Constitution, especially and starting with the First Amendment and its protection of speech and religion.

    When we recognize the attacks and bigotry of the secular, “liberal” left and expose their true goals, the attacks will lose their potency. We cannot count on the main stream media to help protect our freedoms, so we must do it ourselves.

    Speak often of the hatred and intolerance accepted by the leftists and the media, and put their hypocrisy on display until they can no longer run from it. The sooner this can be done, the sooner this election can focus on the real issues affecting the nation instead of the religion of a particular candidate.

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  • LameLiberals
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:03am

    @jasonsmommy
    I posted the links WITH the FACTS – waiting for them to post.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:40am

      You are such a busy little Troll today..running the ” anti-Mormon” routine ! Our Lefties are always running the “ anti” stuff. Just like their Leader who runs the anti-capitalism, anti-banks, anti-Wall Street, anti-traditional American values ! Mr “ Forward ” – as in, Over the Cliff which is “anti-survival .” LOL

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    • jasonsmommy
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:34pm

      When I want to know about someone or what they believe i ask the person that is a member of that organization not what some else says they believe or do.

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  • barber2
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:01am

    Kennedy was a Democrat. That was back when America Democrats supported America and its values. Today’s Democrats are much more members of the international Left. Their values, like the international ( old Communist/ union / labor / materialist influence ) Left, have grown away from the old traditional American values. The Democrat Party in America today is much more steeped in an anti-American, anti-capitalism, anti-religious value system. Basically an “ anti” party of negative haters. This is NOT the Democrat Party of JFK, unfortunately for America and for the rest of the world.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:58am

      @barber..The Democratic party has been taken over by the Communists..and it is so sad to see that America’s once noble Republicans are blindly going that way.. I used to be able to see the difference..but not anymore..It’s sad that the majority is so easily led by media.. I can just see you now with your heads glued to the Communist/Rothschild/Soros owned media..cannot think for yourselves.. I mused recently when I saw Soros speaking in the Canadian press how the only game changer would be Ron Paul..and everyone is so mistrustful of Soros..that they don’t believe a word out of his mouth..but I would venture to say that he is very pleased and laughing at the ignorance of the masses.
      .All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those toward whom it is directed will understand it… Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise
      Adolf Hitler

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:22am

      ASHES: Don’t agree with you. All of this Ron Paul rhetoric is just divisive Lefty Troll talk. If you were a fiscal conservative, you would want the man most likely to win be chosen ( Romney ) and you would be screaming for more conservatives be elected to the congress. You are just spouting dysfunctional baloney. ALL of you . That Plan B stuff isn’t going to work. Guess it;s just FORWARD to the convention and the Ron Paul chaos the anarchist Trolls have planned. After the OWS Show of Shows, we know what to expect.

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  • Jim AZ
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:00am

    Lame,
    Try picking up “An Ecclesiastical History” from the library.

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:59am

    I lived in Salt LaIke City for 8 years beginning in 1978. As a Catholic, I can not countenance the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints. I can say that I found the Mormons kind, considerate and not pushy about their faith. I also picked up some valuable lessons like storing one year supply of food and water, visiting the sick of any faith, and their focus on the family. Of course, many believe that I am also a cultist. I don’t care what Romney religion belongs to as long as he belongs to a religon that is conservative and family centered.

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  • LameLiberals
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:45am

    There is a saying in the military of which I served for 26 years

    Don’t piss on my boots and tell me its raining. Ditto for telling me Romney is conservative or Christian.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:24am

      Love the way all of you so-called Ron Paul types claim extensive military service ! What a hoot. About as truthful as me saying I was once the King of Siam. Before I joined the ballet . You guys do more spin than a gym class . Remind me of your secret hero and his “ composite ” girlfriends !

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:38am

      There are lots of Ron Paul supporters in the military. I did not become a Ron Paul supporter until 2012 GOP primary when I could not stomach voting for a liberal GOP candidate. I always voted GOP except for Bush Senior in his second term when I voted for Ross Perot.

      The Blaze made a mistake posting this Media Bias Catholic/Mormon article. My fear of a 2nd term Obama agenda covered my dislike of Romney’s Mormonism and his liberalism. This article/comments brings it all home – That presidential circle on my absentee ballot is closer to Gary Johnson again.

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:18pm

      YOU LIE >>> there is no PRESIDENTIAL vote on the FLORIDA ABSENTEE PRIMARY BALLOT

      LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE … LYING LIAR!

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  • jasonsmommy
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:45am

    You really need to get your facts right before you post such craziness.

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  • LameLiberals
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:43am

    I DESPISE the fact Romney is a Mormon as much as I despise the fact Obama is a Muslim. Neither religion founded this country.

    I have NOT mailed my absentee ballot. I am not sure that I will.

    I DESPAIR voting for Mitt Romney and in fact have not filled out that abentee ballot president CIRCLE on my ballot yet although all the other circles on my ballot are filled in – straight Republican and I google researched all the judges/right down to school board members and rejected ANYONE with liberal ties to a union or liberal cause.

    I keep telling others to vote for Mitt Romney hoping it will help convince me to fill in that final circle.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:10am

      Stop annoying people with your atheistic anarchism. We know you will vote for Obama who shares so many of your verbal values. You are no conservative. You are much more like the OWS crowd : rude, nasty and irreligious. Have a nice day. Somewhere else. Your desire to annoy people here is just another indication of your illness. We‘ve all read Alinsky and we don’t “do” Marxism.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:20am

      Comment was meant for Lame. Think the connector is off again !

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    • RedNeckMormon
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:17am

      Lame, you can keep your vote, and your endorsement as well.
      People with a soul so full of hate should not be allowed on the internet.
      While millions of true patriot Americans will cast their vote in Nov. you are
      trying to convince yourself to vote for someone who you detest simply by the
      way he chooses to worship God….shame on you.

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    • Locked
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:29am

      “I DESPISE the fact Romney is a Mormon as much as I despise the fact Obama is a Muslim. Neither religion founded this country.”

      But interestingly, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is an entirely pro-American religion; founded in the US, by a US citizen, and claiming the US is the chosen land of God. Many of the principles in the LDS church are capitalistic in teaching.

      Now, that doesn‘t mean it’s true or that you have to believe it; I certainly don’t. But really, you can’t find a more “American” religion than Mormonism. You can be right in saying Mormons didn’t found America; but Americans created Mormonism.

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    • jasonsmommy
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:38pm

      I can tell you know nothing The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

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  • Locked
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:37am

    Honestly, it seems like anti-Romney bias not anti-Mormonism. Harry Reid has never gone through these attacks, has he? Granted it‘s not like he’s run for president either, but senate majority leader is nothing to scoff at.

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:50am

      Romney and Reid as Mormons believe the bible is outdated. They “evolved” the bible by creating the Doctrine and Convenat and Book of Mormon and other Mormon male teachings which they follow.

      Christians believe the bible is the ONE and ONLY book of God and is UNCHANGING.

      Romney and Reid also believe the Constitution is outdated and needed “evolving”. Why else would Romney and Reid would both believe the government had the right to FORCE people to buy government health care and Romney and Reid were both for gun control and abortion and global warming etc except when Romney (and the Elite GOP) decided to run him in 2008 and then 2012 when he “changed his mind”. LOL Wink Wink. Just like Obama ran against gay marriage.

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    • Popp40
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:00am

      @ Locked, I bet if Reid was a Conservative and Republican he would be going through the same thing. The MSM is controlled by the left, liberal, progressive democratic party now. Whereas, once upon a time they weren’t so blatant about it.

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    • wtrfdsf
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:08am

      LAMELIBERAL – You are misinformed. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints revere the Bible as holy scripture. The Book of Mormon is a second witness. We study the Bible in our Sunday Schools, it is quoted in our worship services. We testify that it is the word of God.

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    • Locked
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:18am

      @popp40

      “I bet if Reid was a Conservative and Republican he would be going through the same thing.”

      Exactly my point. I don’t think this is anti-Mormon bias, it’s anti-Romney bias.

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  • soybomb315
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:36am

    I dont see the media coverage as “bigotry”. Perhaps someone can clarify exactly what bigotry means…..

    I see this more as an examination. Look, Mormonism has NEVER been in the national spotlight. I try to pay attention but there are a lot of things i dont understand about it (some of them are listed in the article). Most americans are completely clueless on Mormonism. From the very begining, we have told you Romney supporters that Mormonism would be an easy target for the liberal media. Mormons and Romney supporters assured us that the Mormon church would refute any attacks…..Hasnt happend. Overall, it appears Mormon church is sitting this one out, or hiding. Pretty sad that Glenn Beck is the biggest defender of the Mormon faith – and describes himself as casual mormon

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    • Jim AZ
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:57am

      Oh, there’s plenty of defenders.

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    • RedNeckMormon
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:07am

      The problem about getting in a mud fight with a pig, is that you both get covered with mud, and he likes it.
      The Church’s doctrines and beliefs speak for themselves, they need no defense.

      “Fools mock, but they shall mourn, for my grace is sufficient for the weak”

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    • 4thGenerationWarrior
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:18am

      When you address the type of undergarments a person wears in a mean-spirited manner- how is that NOT derogatory and having nothing to do with assessing the character of that person? The answer is what I wear under my clothes and why is frankly none of your business. If you truly are attempting to assess me since when is it okay in your assessment to demean me or a piece of my clothing? ESPECIALLY a piece of clothing which I hold sacred? Keep in mind it does not matter how you feel about it! The answer is it is NOT a sincere assessment of Romney or anyone else it is simply an attempt to demonize him, his religion and all those of likemind. Any attempt to say otherwise is just meaningless blathering!

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    • bloomytoad
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:26am

      Most people do not understand there own faith. Some have a surface understanding, but very few dive into what the scripture actually are trying to convey.This is why so many Christian churches have become nothing more than service organizations, too many are afraid of actually putting their spirit up for examination, instead depending on good works and signing along with a “praise band”.

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    • themetrick
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:17am

      I think the thing I find most amazing about social media (comments on online articles..etc) is that you can sort of get a pulse of on the way people feel about certain subjects. Anytime Romney‘s Mormon beliefs appear in an article the Christianity debate starts and of course the finer points of Mormonism’s beginnings and current choice of under wear. That’s all fine. But what is concerning to me is the level of hate that flows from the left leaning comments only to be matched by a seemingly more intense level of hate and intolerance by the “Christian” community. I get what the left is doing, they are smashing the candidate. I just don’t understand the Christian community. I get that you feel empowered to call to repentance and rid the world of any so called false doctrine any religion (especially Mormonism) may teach. You are acting under the premise that you are a true follower of Christ and therefore authorized to be His defender and condemn all those that pollute His name. I just don’t see why you do it with such hate? Why do you hate the Mormons and their teachings so much? And don’t wimp out and reply by saying “We don’t hate, we just teach truth” or some other crap. I’ve been watching you for the better part of my 37 years of existence. I’ve lived all over this country…you hate us. I know you do. You hate our teachings. And I thank God every day you don’t consider me one of you. I’m a Mormon.

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    • Copo
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 11:27am

      @bloomytoad I completely agree. Of the many Presbyterians I know very few even know what Covenant Theology is, nor do they understand the 5 points.

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  • mayihelpyou
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:34am

    We are we going to talk about communism and Obama’s hatred of America?

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  • Tutis
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:32am

    The media beat up on Bush for his mainstream Methodist affiliation.

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  • americansfightingforcommonsense
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:10am

    So, who are the real bigots? It is easy to see that our media is so biased that they couldn’t see the truth if it were standing right in front of them. All they care about is re-electing their guy! Who cares if he is a Marxist or even a Communist; They just want Obama to keep “Fundamentally Transforming” this nation into a more socialist state like China. Next they will be telling us how many children we can have, or what kind of job we can have based on our grades in school, or if we can start our own business!
    LORD PLEASE give us Mitt Romney as our next president. LORD PLEASE bless this nation to remain a FREE country.

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  • RedNeckMormon
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:10am

    Being and Active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints these verbal attacks don’t bother me at all. People have been saying the same old thing for over 100 years. Blah blah blah, you belong to a cult, your going to hell, blah blah blah. I say bring it on. Politically I would say that I was a bit farther right than Bro Romney. I hope he wins, not because he is a fellow Mormon, and somehow it will help the church, but because I don’t think our Republic can survive 4 more years of socialistic policies from our current hypocrite in chief.

    Hypocrite is defined as a pretender and that is exactly what obama is.

    We have got to get our fiscal house in order or the house of cards will come crashing down.
    The Church has survived attacks from haters before and it will again.

    “The Standard of Truth has been erected. No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing. Persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame. But the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and dependent till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, until the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the Great Jehovah will say, ‘The work is done.’”

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:35am

      Your church is as weird as Scientology.

      After death you rule planets – at least the men do. Definitely not Christian.

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    • Jim AZ
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:03am

      troll, troll, troll, your boat.
      I wish Media Madders could find a way to be more entertaining.
      Sigh.

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    • RedNeckMormon
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:10am

      Heard it all before lame….
      Call it what you like, I am perfectly comfortable standing before the judgement bar of Jesus Christ in the future and answering how I worshiped and served him, hope your interview with him goes well too !!!

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:25am

      Heard it all before also lying Redneck.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:02am

    The difference of 50 years is even more simple in the regards of Romney being assaulted based on his faith and ideology…

    The majority of the medias, of all kinds, are in the hands of the progressives, marxists and radicals; answering to them via subversion, coersion, ideology, or fanatacism. They are nothing more than the lawful propaganda machinery and fabricators of distortions, lies, and falsehoods, for their puppeteers who strive behind the lines from all directions and methodology to ensure their own success.

    Understand clearly – the attack on Romney, as with any other candidate who faced Obama, is being subject to the most basic of propagandist tools…

    TELL a lie long enough, loud enough, often enough and it will become established as a truth for many people.

    If you doubt this consider the recent themes of the last 50 years:

    Elvis Lives.
    JFK lives.
    Moon landing not happen.
    Earth is flat.
    Challenger shot down by Russian ships
    9/11 ‘truthers’ (of Van Jones fame)

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:33am

      One thing is a FACT.

      Romney is NOT a conservative.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:42am

      LAME: and neither are you ! LOL

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:20pm

      LAME …. is howeer a LIAR– claims to be voting in Florida on an absentee ballot for President … there is no Presidental vote on the August PRIMARY balllot!!!!

      LIAR!

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  • cjherin
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:56am

    Every time the LDS church is attacked, Romney or his surrogates should ask, “Why are you attacking the faith of the Senate Majority Leader?”

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    • Beckaj
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:10am

      Exactly. It’s hilarious how they ignore that fact.

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:15am

      Liberals are not embarrassed by hypocrisy.

      All they would have to do is say why are you attacked LIBERAL Reid when Romney until he decided to run for office as a conservative believed EXACTLY what Harry Ried believes:

      in global warming, gay marriage, abortion, as governor appointed only 16 judges to the bench ALL liberal and some gay liberals just like Obama on the Supreme Court, signed into law RomneyCare, etc etc.

      That throws it the hyprocrisy right back into the face of the elite GOP who put up their own Manchurian candidate.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:19am

      Religion, like everything else, is merely a tool which the Democrats will “alinsky” to their advantage . Thus, if a Democrat is a Mormon, that is fine. If a Republican is a Mormon, that is a HUGE PROBLEM. That is just an example of the 99% hypocrisy and manipulation, brayed loudly in the media, which is the core of todays Democrat Party. This is NOT your grandfather’s Democrat Party – well, unless grand pa was a secret Communist !

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    • resme
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:21am

      @barber, Would you vote for a muslim?

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:47am

      The funny thing is if you actually look at the articles cited, most of them are not nearly what the author portrays them to be. He simply cherrypicks lines out of them to make it seem as though the articles were bashing Mormonism when most of them were just discussing the topic, not bashing as this lying author states.

      I thought you Beckbots do your own homework? I guess not.

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  • soybomb315
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:48am

    It is possible to not be a fan of Mormonism and not be a bigot

    Just because your guy is a Mormon doesnt mean we all have to be cool with it

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:13am

      Nope. If you ain’t down with GB, you’re a bigot.

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    • RedNeckMormon
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:13am

      Absolutely…
      Our philosophy has always been to spread the Gospel, tell people what we believe and why.
      If your not interested, that’s cool. You have your free will and we respect that.
      I just don’t give a crap that you think ill of my faith and belief, keep it to yourself.

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:38am

      @Redneck mormon

      But you LIE when you spread your word.
      you reel people in saying you believe in Jesus Christ but then don’t tell them that in every other way Mormons do NOT believe ANYTHING Christians do or that Mormon men CAN eventually become a GOD JUST LIKE JESUS CHRIST – maybe better and you practice at being a good God by ruling other planets after death.

      If a religions believes in MORE than one god – THAT is not Christian.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:05am

      Soy and Angry : Our resident Lefty Trolls just checking in and giving us living examples of our bigoted , arrogant Lefty rhetoric. Am sure the rest of their gang will also join in the chorus . Sort of like watching an OWS or ACORN mob scene of angry, negative atheists !

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    • rogwl
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:09am

      @lameliberals- glad to see someone here that is the final say on what makes a Christian… I guess that is- anyone who doesn‘t believe the same as you can’t be a Christian. It’s comforting to know that you speak for God. Are you a prophet??

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:18am

      Barber, Do you want to respond to Soy’s question or just call us names, Saul?

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:26am

      ANGRY: Doing your typical goofy tactic. Soy did not ask a real question. He hurled an insult. Adults can tell the difference.

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    • 4thGenerationWarrior
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:33am

      There is a HUGE difference between not being a fan of Mormon doctrine and not being an Anti-Mormon Bigot. But repsectfully discussing Mormon doctrine as a non-fan and disrespecting someone and their belief system by referring to their sacred undergarments as “magic underwear” in a mocking fashion is indicative of a bigot and NOT a non-fan. Again, not being cool with something or someone does not mean you are a bigot, but as someone who believes it be uncool that the GOP has a Mormon does not mean you MUST troll the internet to take every ocassion to slam the religion, the man and points of doctrine such as Eternal Marriage, Eternal Families and sanctity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Last time I checked Christ did not go around tearing others down and laughing at the things they believe even though He KNEW them to be foolishness. But then I guess you aren’t trying to live a Christ-like life…my bad!

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    • Galt j
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:57am

      Mormonism 101
      Segment of Elder Jeffrey R. Holland’s Remarks to the Harvard Law School, March 20, 2012:

      “One may wonder, ‘Why do these Mormons stir up such emotions in people, and why are they not considered Christian by some?’ Let me conclude with just a few thoughts on that.

      We are not considered Christian by some because we are not fourth-century Christians, we are not Nicene Christians, we are not creedal Christians of the brand that arose hundreds of years after Christ. No, when we speak of “restored Christianity” we speak of the Church as it was in its New Testament purity, not as it became when great councils were called to debate and anguish over what it was they really believed. So if one means Greek-influenced, council-convening, philosophy-flavored Christianity of post-apostolic times, we are not that kind of Christian. Peter we know, and Paul we know, but Constantine and Athanasius, Athens and Alexandria we do not know. (Actually, we know them, we just don’t follow them.)

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    • Galt j
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:04am

      For full version of “Mormonism 101” remarks was delivered March 20, 2012 at Harvard Law School go to the following link:

      http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/harvard-elder-holland-mormonism-remarks

      For the non-troll, honest in heart, this short speach provides a quality discription of what the LDS Church has in common with other faiths and what makes it stand apart.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:01pm

      @Barber
      I will rephrase my statement in the form of a question since I thought it was common sense. Your first post indicates you did not understand. Here is the question….

      Is it possible to not be a fan of Mormonism and not be a bigot???

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