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Religious Diversity: Evangelical, Mormon, Jew, Greek Orthodox & Sikh Leaders Deliver RNC Prayers

Faith has a way of intersecting and impacting the political schema. The Republican National Convention (RNC), for instance, is an example of how this dynamic plays out. Religion in politics, though not a new phenomenon, is fascinating to see evolve. The religious right — and the religious left — have played viable roles in policy and electoral politics for decades. At this week’s RNC, the prevalence and presence of faith-based sentiment has been more than noticeable.

Religious Diversity: Evangelical, Mormon, Jew, Greek Orthodox & Sikh Leaders Deliver RNC Prayers

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney (Photo: Getty Images)

Earlier this week, TheBlaze published a list of five ways in which faith and religion would matter at the RNC. Among the reasons mentioned was Mitt Romney’s The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints membership — a factor that has been talked about in great detail over the past few months and years. As we’ve noted, the candidate has been criticized before for allegedly being too silent about his beliefs.

With Romney slated to address the nation tonight, there‘s a chance he’ll rebuff these critiques and tackle his faith head-on. In a similar manner, he gave a talk about Mormonism back in 2007 in an effort to spawn greater understanding (read extensive analysis about this here). Based on other convention speakers’ comments, there‘s been evidence that his LDS faith will be a part of tonight’s speech. Let’s recap some of these elements.

On Tuesday, while Ann Romney, the candidate’s wife, didn‘t get into extensive detail about her family’s Mormon faith, she did bring up his charitable giving – something that, arguably, is an effect of his LDS membership.

Religious Diversity: Evangelical, Mormon, Jew, Greek Orthodox & Sikh Leaders Deliver RNC Prayers

Ann Romney, wife of U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney addresses the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla. on Tuesday, Aug. 28, 2012. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

Vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan, too, brought up religion during his Wednesday night address. Aside from speaking directly against President Barack Obama and highlighting how a Romney-Ryan White House would be far more beneficial to Americans, Ryan addressed the candidates’ faith. MyFoxLA.com has more:

Paul Ryan touched on his Catholic faith and Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith in accepting the Republican nomination for vice president Wednesday night.

“Mitt and I also go to different churches. But in any church, the best kind of preaching is done by example.  And I’ve been watching that example,” Ryan said. “The man who will accept your nomination (Thursday) is prayerful and faithful and honorable. Not only a defender of marriage, he offers an example of marriage at its best. Not only a fine businessman, he’s a fine man, worthy of leading this optimistic and good-hearted country.

“Our different faiths come together in the same moral creed,” Ryan continued. “We believe that in every life there is goodness; for every person, there is hope.  Each one of us was made for a reason, bearing the image and likeness of the Lord of Life.”

This further fuels speculation surrounding whether Romney will also address his Mormon faith during tonight’s speech (watch Ryan’s address here). After all, it’s quite possible that his wife and his running mate were essentially greasing the wheel for Romney prior to his much-anticipated address by invoking themes pertaining to his religious adherence.

With The Associated Press reporting that Romney will, indeed, delve into his faith, particularly when it comes to his assistance to families in need when he was a church leader in Boston, tonight is certain to be telling. In addition to discussing his faith — a subject that it seems his wife was preparing the audience for, the outlet claims he will also outline what a Romney presidency would look like.

The overall event, the AP reports, “is aimed at introducing the sometimes stiff and distant politician as a businessman, Olympic savior and deeply religious family man.”

Regardless of what Romney, his wife and Ryan have already said (or will say this evening), the RNC has ensured that there has been a hefty – and diverse — religious presence at this year’s event (who could forget the very shiny prayer room we already told you about?). Faith leaders from across a wide array of belief systems – evangelical, Mormon, Jew, Greek Orthodox and Sikh, among others – were included in official RNC blessings.

To begin, on Tuesday, Rabbi Dr. Meir Soloveichik, director of Yeshiva University’s Zahava and Moshael Straus Center for Torah and Western Thought, opened the proceedings with an invocation.

“It is extraordinary privilege to deliver an invocation at a cherished ritual of American democracy,” Soloveichik told the audience. “The fact that I have been teaching courses about the connection between Jewish ideas and American democracy makes this moment all the more meaningful for me.”

Watch his blessing, here:

The convention was then closed on Tuesday by The Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, the president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Coalition. The faith leader’s inclusion in the event was particularly noteworthy, because he has criticized the GOP on some of its immigration stances. However, he apparently felt compelled to appear and participate at the event, giving Romney a boost he may need among Hispanic voters.

Prior to the convention, he described his prayer as one striving ”for reconciling righteousness with justice, truth with civility, Billy Graham’s message with Dr. King’s march.” Charisma News has more about the prayer that Rodriguez inevitably offered up (a prayer that, coincidentally, included this very preview line):

Rodriguez prayed that in the midst of moral relativism and spiritual apathy, America would receive a fresh outpouring of God’s Holy Spirit. …“Let Your Spirit move us, reconciling sanctification with service, holiness with humility, the image of God with the habits of Christ, righteousness with justice, and Billy Graham’s message with Martin Luther King’s dream—a dream expressed so eloquently by him on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on this very day nearly 50 years ago.”

He concluded the prayer, saying that “we gather here in Tampa, empowered by Your Spirit, believing that God is not done with America, and America is not done with God.”

See Rodriguez’s message, below:

And on Wednesday, Ishwar Singh, head priest at the Sikh Society of Central Florida, opened the convention with a prayer and some brief comments. Following the tragic shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin just weeks ago, this appearance was an effort that potentially served to both heal and educate the public about a faith system that is rather unknown to many (learn about Sikhism here).

Here are some highlights from Singh’s address (he was the first Sikh leader in history to offer an invocation at the RNC):

“It is a great honour for me to be here today as a Sikh and as an American. I am proud that my country cherishes the values of freedom, equality and dignity.” [...]

“We are deeply saddened by recent acts of violence, including the mass shooting of Sikh-Americans in our gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Let us end hate against all people and remember that we truly are one nation under God,” he said.

“This evening, as we come together at the Republican National Convention to help decide the future of our nation, let us remember love and oneness.” [...]

“Nanak nam chardi kala, tere bhane sarbat da bhala. In the Name of God, Vaheguru, we find everlasting optimism. Within Your Will, we pray for the upliftment of all humanity.”

Watch his full address, below:

And the diversity doesn’t end there. Following Ryan’s speech on Wednesday evening, Metropolitan Methodios, a spiritual leader of the Greek Orthodox Metropolis of Boston, offered the closing benediction. While Archbishop Demetrios of America was originally slated to deliver the message, travel complications made doing so an impossibility.

Here‘s the complete transcript of Metropolitan Methodios’ address to the audience:

Let us pray,

“O Heavenly King, Comforter, the Spirit of truth Who is ever present and fills all things, the Treasure of all blessings and source of life, we beseech you to dwell in our hearts” (1) as we hold in prayer our brethren who suffer the ravages of Hurricane Isaac. Embrace them in your love and keep them safe. Enable us to reach out to them in acts of philanthropy and generosity.

As we close this evening’s program, we pray that You bless and inspire the delegates of this Republican Convention to be your devoted servants and dedicated citizens of our great country. They have nominated two of your faithful sons, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, to serve the highest offices of this beloved land, a nation which has always opened its embrace to welcome “the tired, the poor and the huddled masses, all the tempest tossed to breathe free” (2) a nation that has always been a model of peace, justice and the rule of law. Shine in the hearts of the nominees of this convention the radiant light of Your divine will.  Imbue them and Chairman Reince Priebus, Archon of the Ecumenical Patriarchate with insight, wisdom, and boldness, with courage, compassion and competence.

Tonight, we remember the intrepid members of our armed forces who place themselves in harm’s way in defense of our freedom, and like our Founding Fathers, are steadfast in keeping America the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.

May every American be more sensitive:

To the neglected and forgotten
To those who have been victims of discrimination and crime
To those who are hungry and homeless
To those with no jobs and little hope

Help us, Lord, to break down the walls of enmity and distrust, and show us the way to a new era of peace, equality and opportunity. Strengthen the hand of America as it reaches out to clasp the hands of our brethren throughout the world to build bridges of understanding. May we rediscover the path that leads one to another, and all to You. Amen.

These are the faith addresses that have already unfolded. Tonight, additional invocations and benedictions will be given. There’s Ken Hutchins, a retired police chief from Northboro, Massachusetts. A friend of the Romney family, Hutchins is also a Mormon.

Romney and the former policeman met one another through LDS and, as a result of their friendship, Hutchins was invited to offer up the opening prayer for the final night of the convention. CNN has more about the relationship between the two men:

As a Mormon leader in Massachusetts, Romney tapped Hutchins for key leadership roles; their friendship shows how the millionaire candidate developed close ties to middle-class folks. At least one more of Romney’s Mormon friends will be speaking Thursday, signaling a shift for the candidate, who for months steered clear of conversations about his religion.

This tight-knit relationship, especially considering the expectation that Romney will address his Mormon faith, will certainly help to humanize the candidate. Furthermore, it will provide a lens for the American people through which they can view the life of a candidate who some may still be struggling to understand.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan will also be giving the closing prayer this evening. Dolan turned heads on Wednesday after it was announced that he will also do the same at the Democratic National Convention next week. Of course, Dolan’s dual party role wasn’t the only interesting faith tidbit to come just days before Democrats assemble in Charlotte. Earlier this week, the DNC’s host committee made headlines for advertising an Islamic “Jumah” prayer that will be held during the event (the event isn’t being put on by the DNC).

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on August 31, 2012 at 1:26pm

    Well, let me say this: If the prayers did not come from on who had confessed his/her sins, and through Jesus Christ, to get to God the Father, then the prayers did not get above the ceiling! Bible Doctrine.

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  • hi
    Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:59am

    I don’t like this AT ALL. Just have no prayer!! I stand with the atheists on this one. I don’t want people praying to the devil when I go to a government function. This is wrong. I am writing in Herman Cain. I’d rather have socialism than a satanic worshiping government.

    I DO believe we all have freedom to worship, but not at a government meeting.

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    • HEYYYY
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 10:36am

      @HI. So we should censor all prayer? We respect you right not to pray why can’t you respect our right to pray. And who prayed to satan. Mormons pray to god as do jews,methodists,catholics, etc… I don’t understand why people get so bent out of shape over prayer? I’ve never heard any of the above religions pray for any thing negative, or harm anyone or anything. They’re mostly uplifting and invigorating. Tolerance is a two way street!

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    • mamatango
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 7:35pm

      May I ask WHO you felt prayed to Satan???????????????

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  • LeFaux Jew
    Posted on August 31, 2012 at 7:46am

    Did you folks see the pic of Obama on the 2016 movie site?
    It gave me chills…..he looks like Pharoah!

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  • donaldchar
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:48pm

    Since “diversity” is the RNC’s goal, they missed it. To complete the picture, they needed to at least include somebody bringing in a big rock with some face carved on it, and prostrating to it as she led all in “prayer.” What they did instead was ridiculous [which means "worthy of ridicule"]. The LDS god has a beginning and used to be known as “Adam;” he’s now evolved to godhood even though he still looks just like one of us. And my guess is that Mitt, as a good Mormon, is likewise aspiring to godhood. Go, live in India among the Sikhs and learn firsthand their vicious, murderous antipathy toward the “Judeo-Christian God” who commands us to love even our enemies. This God, unlike the LDS god, has always been – He has no beginning. And, just the opposite of the LDS god, He dwells in unapproachable, glorious light and says, “No one can see My face and live.” On the contrary, Mormonism’s inventor, Joseph Smith, could look at his god-the-father with relative ease. So we had tonight prayers to 3 different deities, apparently all on equal footing. Hypocritical PC in the name of the god of Diversity, obviously heading in the wrong direction.

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    • joel228
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 2:32am

      Donaldchar, who taught you the scriptures? Is your understanding of all religions as erroneous as your false understanding of the bible and of the LDS faith?

      LDS (Mormons) do not believe Adam is God but I’d be willing to bet that you believe God prays to himself.

      Moses 2:27 And I, God, created man in mine own image, in the image of mine Only Begotten created I him; male and female created I them.
      Moses 3:8 And I, the Lord God, planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there I put the man whom I had formed.
      Moses 5:16 And Adam and Eve, his wife, ceased not to call upon God.

      LDS believe that God is eternal.
      Book of Mormon Alma 13:9
      Thus they become high priests forever, after the order of the Son, the Only Begotten of the Father, who is without beginning of days or end of years, who is full of grace, equity, and truth. And thus it is. Amen.

      The bible teaches that man can see God and live.
      Gen 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

      I could reference many more scriptures but I‘m sure you wouldn’t believe those either.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:09am

      joel228,
      The idea of seeing God face to face, and living or dying is something I often ponder, because I don’t actually think it means [to physically die, but to spiritually die, thus lost in limbo after physical death]. But the thing I ponder about it is that usually people don’t listen to people who look like themselves [human], or appear to be a lesser species. Moreover, I ponder the idea that God comes in human form, and because people won’t accept him as God, then they die in spirit.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:18am

      God said in Genesis: I can not remain with man forever because they are also flesh. That’s because men let the flesh have too much say so, and they chase God away – lest you forget God is the Lord of Hosts.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:27am

      The idea that a human can be God incarnated is profound. Yet, if you believe in Jesus then you know it is likely. On the other hand there is people who want to harden people’s heart to that idea of a human form God, and so they walk around saying themselves are God – like that Morgan Freeman. To live or die, is in the hands of every individual, and Liberty is the furnace that tempers your rods.

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    • LeFaux Jew
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:57am

      Even Jesus said the Creator is a spirit, and your supposed to worship the creator that way.
      Until that time when people can do that, some groups of people need to see me as a man (Romans and Greeks etc.)

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    • LeFaux Jew
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:04am

      People often confuse doctrines with reality.
      Just like Jesus defined life eternal as knowing his God in John 17 (we often see God through the righteous ones on earth).
      However some groups of people believed in a god of hades and a firey underworld, so to them they believe if they hold to certain man doctrines they will escape this.
      God has always forgiven and has been the great burden bearer.

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    • joel228
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 11:39am

      WATERSRPEOPLE
      What I posted and what DONALDCHAR posted appear to be contradictory. John also appears to contradict himself. This certainly requires a better understanding – and a better translation.

      John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
      1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
      John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
      Gen 32:30 …for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

      Moses also saw God
      Exodus 33:11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.
      Then immediately seems to contradict himself
      20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

      I don’t have space here for details but the answer is two or three parts
      1) No one can see all the glory of God and remain on the earth
      2) To see some of God’s glory requires the protective power of the spirit of God
      3) Those that see God have already or must later testify of Jesus Christ

      Moses 1:5 ..no man can behold all my glory, and afterwards remain in the flesh on the earth.
      D&C 84:22 For without this no man can see the face of God, even the Father, and live.
      JST, John 1:19 And no man hath seen God at any time, except he hath borne record of the Son; for except it is through him no man can be saved.

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  • CGray
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:04pm

    EXREPUBLISHEEP, Jesus said it. Many times while He was here. He is also referred to as the Son of God, the Son of Man, the Lamb of God, the Alpha and Omega, and the Great High Priest.

    The sad thing about Mormons is they have been taught to believe that Jesus is a created being just like Lucifer. Mormons are not the only ones duped into demoting Jesus from who He really is. They find it easier to believe the alternative.

    The tragic thing about it is they miss the whole purpose for Jesus coming here in the first place. Jesus came to take our place and pay the full penalty of sin so that we wouldn’t have to.

    C.S. Lewis pondered this question also. It would be worth the time to read his book on the subject. It’s called Mere Christianity. He said there are only 3 conclusions you can come to about Jesus.
    1. He was a world call con-artist.
    2. He was crazy.
    3. He was telling the truth.

    If Jesus is not God, then everyone who follows Him risks going to hell (or wherever) on a lie. But if He is truly God come down in human form, then He showed the most exquisite expression of love for each of us that has ever been shown. And no one but God is capable of that kind of love. Read the book. It will help you make sense of true Christianity. CS Lewis didn‘t just write children’s books. He was a professor at Oxford and a former atheist.
    Hope that helps.

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    • wvernon1981
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:10pm

      There’s also a fourth possibility. That the claims of divinity were later additions or complete fabrications.

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    • wvernon1981
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:13pm

      Also, Jesus wasn’t that great of a moral teacher. I’ve found others to be far more instructive in morality than Jesus. He wasn’t anything special as far as moral teachings go. He could have very well been a lunatic or a liar. He wouldn’t be the first lunatic or liar to persuade a group of individuals.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 12:15am

      @CGRAY. I still don’t know where to look. I’d like to see it in the Bible itself somewhere, because I only remember “Son of God” type of comments. Would Jesus pray to himself? The demons called him the “Holy one of God”. He is the only way to God. Why is he the only way to God if he IS God. Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. I know Jesus is OF God, and in the beginning the word WAS God. The only begotten Son of God. These are from my memory so no disrespect is intended. Is there a SPECIFIC place in the New Testament that clearly states Jesus IS God?

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    • LeFaux Jew
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 7:35am

      Jesus had a God.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:03am

      Yes Jesus has a God, and when Jesus returns we will learn Jesus new name and the name of Jesus’ God.

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    • CGray
      Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:37pm

      Wvernon1981, Hopefully this will go thru.
      Was the story of Jesus fabricated? Legitimate question. One started by the Jewish Rabbis after His crucifixion out of fear of His Resurrection. It has continued to this day. There’s nothing wrong with asking this question. But remember what Lucifer said to Eve in the Garden about the Tree? He said, “Did God really say…?” People like Bill Maher (a Jew) mock God under the guise of asking questions. Be he’s not interested in knowing the truth. Motives are really important. CS Lewis sparred with those questions as well. Maybe his book will help.

      As for your other comment, Jesus did not come here to teach morality. Morality was taught in the Old Testament starting with the 10 Commandments. He came to eradicate sin and reestablish God’s Covenant here on earth making it possible for each of us to have an intimate relationship with the Father without going thru some religious hierarchy. He came to seek and to save that which was lost. Galatians 3:13-15 says “Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law….”

      He did make the Law a lot simpler though. He said in John 13: 33 – 35 “A new commandment I give unto you that you love one another as I have loved you.” Galatians 5:14 says “All of the Law is summed up in this, that you love God and love your neighbor as yourself.” When you are motivated by love, obeying the 10 Commandments is easy. You can live holier with love on accident than you ever tried

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  • Individualism
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 8:44pm

    the GOP trying hard to erase its “good ol boy” image and its clearly not working based on minority votes. soon before you know it after losing to Obama again they might even try the multiculturalism thing the conservatives in Britain did.

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    • mamatango
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:01pm

      If that happens, you’re status will either change from atheist to Muslim, alive to dead, or you will enjoy your dhimmi status! Good luck either way.

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  • THERAPTURCOMES
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 8:35pm

    Obama the muslim or a Mormon and Catholic.

    Yup, the resurrection/rapture is about to happen with cults running things

    http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo

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  • paratroop
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:38pm

    A conservative that excludes people of other faiths is no better than a liberal that practice group-think in the media and universitites. The founders penned the Constitution for all Citizens, not just your flavor of Christianity. If we expect fairness from liberals, we should demand it from ourselves.

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 8:37pm

      Mormonism and Catholicism are not Christian, they are cults. The bible has warned of this apostasy for a couple thousand years now.

      The resurrection/rapture is imminent

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    • wvernon1981
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:15pm

      Rapture, in what way do you know you’re correct then? There are millions upon millions of adherents to some form of Christianity. How do you know you’re correct?

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:41pm

      WVERNON1981

      I have the bible and it is the sole source of all information needed. The funny thing is, is that it details all that is needed for the Christian to know. All other cults have separate works (writings) that they give equal or greater spiritual value to.

      Mormonism and catholicism are two of them.

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    • joel228
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 2:48am

      Raptur, you have it backwards. Mormonism and Catholicism are the only two religions that could possibly lay claim to the authority of Christ. Either authority was passed from Christ to Peter to Popes and all offshoots are apostates. Or authority was lost from the earth. Therefore authority had to be restored from resurrected beings with authority. The same Peter who received it from Christ gave it directly to Joseph Smith and others. In that case any offshoots of Catholicism are apostates of apostates – no authority from Christ.

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    • LeFaux Jew
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 7:41am

      Well….since “kyriakos (greek word for church) is not even a word in the NT ; church is not greek word ecclesia…..I think the snake oil sales people have people duped thinking a made up and replaced kyriakos is going to replace the ecclesia in a rapture theory?????

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 11:11am

      JOEL228

      Utter ignorance of scriptures. The church existed and had its writings well before the catholic church ever emerged.

      Peter is not the founder of the catholic church, that is a miss reading of scriptures and the mormons are just plain out and out crazy cultists

      These are but two of the cults out of the so called 2.2 billion Christians as labeled by the secular world.

      You really need to study church history a bit closer but that’s ok, the resurrection/rapture is about to define whom is and whom is not Christian

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    • joel228
      Posted on September 1, 2012 at 4:04am

      RAPTURCOMES, for someone as accusatory as you are, you provide very little to back up what you say and
      you miss the whole point. Authority is not self acquired but must be received from someone that has the authority to pass on. Does not matter if before or after Christ came. Even Aaron had to be called of God and anointed/ordained.

      Hebrews 5:4
      4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.

      Ex. 40:13
      And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest’s office.

      John 15:16
      16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you,

      Perhaps you have changed that pattern by virtue of your vast knowledge of the scriptures (that I have not seen you quote). Personally I would rather go with someone that knows little about scripture but has been called and ordained with authority than someone who spent their entire life studying the scriptures but has no authority from God or his anointed.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:25pm

    Wool-Free Vision,
    No I’m not saying Liberty is only meant for Christians, and you said that because you have lowly comprehension ability – and the words and context you want to fish out of a paragraph stick out more to you than the entirety. What I’m saying is that Liberty is meant for the spiritual or semi spiritual (thus God giving the values to people at 50 shekels silver for males 20 -60 years old, 30 shekels for female the same age, and so on). Therefore it was that they were [the living] because you don’t break spirit with the dead in spirit. That‘s why nation building doesn’t work, unless such is the case of Israel.
    Therefore if the “Man” spirit of Moses paid males 20-60 years old 50 shekels worth of spiritual silver, and females 30 shekels of spiritual silver back then – How many shekels of silver do you think Americans are worth in all their idolatry obsessions? Not very much and therefore Americans will have a very hard time when the Lord God breaks down the walls.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:35pm

      Maybe if you understand the paying out to the souls of the Hebrews the silver in shekels (which Isaiah also explains when he speaks of the Lord giving gold for brass), then maybe you will understand the true teaching Jesus Christ did with the breaking of the loaves of bread. Yes, no, maybe? Or maybe you just don’t want to fully understand it.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:39pm

      At any rate, you will believe what tastes better on your own palate, but what you are eating still doesn’t set well in your stomach, and that’s why many keep going to church to repeat the same old rote, because it doesn’t satisfy your thirst. That’s sad for you.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:19pm

    “Our different faiths come together in the same moral creed,” Ryan continued. “We believe that in every life there is goodness; for every person, there is hope. Each one of us was made for a reason, bearing the image and likeness of the Lord of Life.” THIS explains why Muslims are exempt. Seems they are more interested in Obama and the Democrats? http://muslimbureau.com/category/events/?lang=en_us

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  • Wango
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:16pm

    I hope one of these prayers will mention the Tea Party, since no one else has.

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  • Abraham Young
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:47pm

    Whatever. Just as long as it’s not Ron Paul delegates saying anything, everyone else gets in for nothing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B39W91O-rUg&feature=share

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:15pm

      Get a grip. you have posted this too many times already. RON PAUL LOST. Deal with it. geez, stop making waves and trying to hand Obama another victory? Did you SEE the Occupy people bussed in with the Ron Paul signs? Play right into their hand, why don’t you. They do not like the Jewish people and they are NOT friends of Israel. Ron Paul is a fiscal conservative and limited gov’t guy, I agree, but other than that, he’s a bit …. OUT THERE?

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  • RightUnite
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:36pm

    And because Muslims weren’t at the table, they will be called haters…. Oh those hateful haters!!

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:44pm

      Weren’t the Atheists left out too? Double whammy happening next. Just wait for WANGO and ENCINOM to come to grips with this story. The fur will fly.

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    • Wango
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:13pm

      “This Sharia Law business is just crap… and I’m tried of dealing with the crazies.” RNC Keynote Speaker Chris Christie.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:35pm

      RIGHTUNITE, you are right . I think this is a good thing and I hope it helps the election and will get BHO out of the WhiteHouse.

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  • CougarNick78
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:32pm

    Gasp, wait, I thought the GOP was a bunch Muslim hating, brown people drowning bashing, bastards! Martin Bashir, said so!

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:38pm

      LOL, yeah he did.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:42pm

      Just for the heck of it, I thought their might be some cartoons online. I typed “Marty Basher” into my search engine. The first thing at the top said: DID YOU MEAN: Martin Bashir. LOL
      When I went to IMAGES, it was almost entirely photographs of Bashir. Although, one was on Stalin. Chuckled, but did not bother to check into it.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:20pm

    Religious Diversity – the second fastest way to end a nation. The first way is to not have borders; the second culture and religion, and the third is a diverse language. Of course it should be mentioned that religion actually spans the second and third cause because religion is a language of men just as it is spoken from the mouth – but it’s spirituality which is the fruit of the soul. Spirituality is the fruit of the soul and that’s why it was said that even a Greek can enter Heaven but through Christ. You error, because you think the various stones, metals of brass, silver, and gold has to do with religion and it does not, but that it has to do with spirituality which many people have not, but yet they have a religion.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:26pm

      Go ahead, bring all sorts of religious diversity to the U.S so this Revelation I have spoken will be revealed in the fall of the U.S.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:30pm

      And then when the U.S falls they will all go back to their own lands. Far be it from your minds that a soul can grow old in a person, then when the person dies in a foreign land, it will be reborn in a land of Liberty if the soul conquered whereby the man regulates himself in Liberty.

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    • DogTags
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:32pm

      Religious diversity is not something we should be striving for. We should be looking for unity. Jesus Christ was exclusive. He said that everyone must believe on Him, that he is God, that he is the only way. Everyone else will die in their sins. The Sikhs miss the mark, the Mormons miss the mark, the social (false) gospel sect misses it, the Jehovah’s Witnesses miss it. What you believe about Jesus matters.

      The only way of salvation is exclusive and it excludes all false doctrines. Jesus (the real Jesus, not some spirit brother of Lucifer) is the ONLY name by which men are saved.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:42pm

      When you just up and decide to bring foreigners into the U.S you are bringing up the waters onto the beloved land – the waters from down under the earth. Therefore you are stinking up the great mountain (now a small hill) which was once in the U.S – stinking up these highlands with crustacean of every walk from the under waters.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:47pm

      The truth is that is why the U.S is over with, because you’re a lot of lukewarm fools.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:52pm

      You are ridiculous. This nation was founded on freedom of religion. For someone who likes to pretend they are some kind of prophet, you have no vision whatsoever.

      We, as Christians, embrace our brothers and sisters with open arms, and we invite them to eat at our table and share our blessings. We do this because Jesus Christ showed us that we are to love our fellow man, and because in so doing, we may bring others to know Him as we do.

      The Good Book also speaks of false prophets. By the logic you employ, are you willing to expel yourself from this brave new America you claim we must have in order to measure up to the cellestial standard you advocate? We are not expected to set up a Heaven on Earth, that is Christ’s job, and to even pretend that we could ever achieve such perfection is blasphemy in itself.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:59pm

      Wool-Free Vision,
      I would say you are worth far less than 10 shekels – maybe not even 1. The U.S was founded on religious freedom because of the Kings trying to warp the understanding of Christianity so as to lose contact with it’s real meaning, because Liberty is a threat to the ancient Monarchies.

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    • mcsledge
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:13pm

      DogTags – How little you know about the Savior of this world. How little you know about Lucifer and the role he held in the pre-existence (son of the morning). How little you know about the Father of us all. Ignornance does not save.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:19pm

      So, liberty is only for us Christians and false prophets. I see. Nice talking to you. Please talk to your pastor. Your 27 cats can’t give you any real feedback other than meowing and purring, and I am afraid that you may be misinterpretting that.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:07pm

      Wool-Free Vision,
      No I’m not saying Liberty is only meant for Christians, and you said that because you have lowly comprehension ability – and the words and context you want to fish out of a paragraph stick out more to you than the entirety. What I’m saying is that Liberty is meant for the spiritual or semi spiritual (thus God giving the values to people at 50 shekels silver for males 20 -60 years old, 30 shekels for female the same age, and so on). Therefore it was that they were [the living] because you don’t break spirit with the dead in spirit. That‘s why nation building doesn’t work, unless such is the case of Israel.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:09pm

      However, it just so happens that usually the spiritual choose to be a Christian.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:47pm

      Where in the Bible does it say Jesus is God? Serious question.

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    • amtsoundsmith
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 8:26pm

      How many shekels am I worth?….Dumb@ss. Get back on your meds.

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  • PorkPIG
    Posted on August 30, 2012 at 4:57pm

    This is were the problem lies , I dont give **** about other ppls religion , I believe in freedom , I believe in my religion and will god judge those who walk a diffrent path . The media is trying to turn this into a religious war .

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