Religious Organizations Object to New Government Birth Control Requirements
- Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:20pm by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — They defied the bishops to support President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul. Now Catholic hospitals are dismayed the law may force them to cover birth control free of charge to their employees.
A provision in the law expanded preventive health-care benefits for women, and the administration said last week that must include birth control with no copays. The Catholic Health Association says a proposed conscience exemption is so narrowly written it would apply only to houses of worship. Some other religious-based organizations agree.
(Related: Planned Parenthood celebrates new rule with Bollywood-style dance)

Religious organizations object to the new government requirement that they provide birth control to their employees free of charge. (AP File Photo)
“I call this the parish housekeeper exemption – that’s about all it covers,” said Sister Carol Keehan, president of the 600-member umbrella group for Catholic hospitals. “What we are trying to do is make workable the conscience protection the administration says it is willing to give.”
Most Catholic hospitals do not cover birth control for their employees, Keehan said, but in some cases they are required to by state law. Doctors caring for patients at the hospitals are not restricted from prescribing birth control.
The Health and Human Services Department is asking for public comment on its proposed conscience clause before making a final decision, expected later this year.
Polls show that Americans overwhelmingly support greater access to birth control, which medical experts say promotes well-being by allowing women to adequately space their pregnancies. For example, a survey earlier this year by the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute found that 89 percent of Catholic women favored expanding access to birth control for women who cannot afford it, with 8 percent opposed. Birth control use is virtually universal in the U.S., according to the government.
Women’s rights groups are opposed to any conscience exemption, pointing out that it’s not specifically authorized by the health care law.
“All women do use contraception at some point in their lives, and we think it should be available to them as a preventive health service,” said Judy Waxman, vice president for health and reproductive rights at the National Women’s Law Center. That includes women who work for Catholic hospitals and for the church itself, Waxman added.
Conscience exemptions are a common component of legislation that creates tension with religious mores. In this case, the Health and Human Services Department says the administration picked language used by states that require health insurers to cover contraception as a prescription benefit. Spokesman Richard Sorian said the administration is open to considering alternatives.
“We look forward to hearing from the public as we work to strike the balance between providing access to proven prevention and respecting religious beliefs,” Sorian said. The coverage requirement doesn’t take effect right away.
The administration’s proposed exemption defines a religious employer as one whose purpose is to instill religious values, which primarily employs and serves people who share its religious tenets, and which is nonprofit.
Three of those four tests don’t work for Catholic hospitals and their 640,000 employees, said Keehan. “Catholic hospitals have never discriminated about employment,” she explained. Likewise, the 5.6 million patients they admit annually can be of any religious faith, or none. And while patients might see a crucifix, they’re not going to get a sermon.
It’s not just Catholic hospitals that would be ineligible for an exemption, said Jeanne Monahan, a policy expert at the conservative Family Research Council. “Any religious group that is not focused on proselytizing will not receive this exemption,” she said. “Educational institutions, groups that are focused on serving the homeless, feeding the hungry, they won’t receive it.”
Law professor Nicholas Cafardi of Duquesne University in Pittsburgh, an expert on tax exempt organizations, said he agrees the administration’s current definition is too narrow. He suggested a more liberal standard employed in the federal tax code might be part of a compromise. Duquesne is a Catholic institution.
In the critical final stages of the congressional health care debate last year, Catholic hospitals broke with the bishops to support passage of the legislation. While the bishops contended the bill would open the way for taxpayer-supported abortions, Keehan said her analysis indicated it would not, a view recently seconded by a federal judge.
In an interview, Keehan indicated she still supports the expansion of health insurance coverage under Obama’s law.
“I’m not a blast-out kind of person,” she said. “I’m saying (to the administration) thank you very much for this exemption, but it’s not broad enough. We’d like to talk to you, and we hope you’ll listen.”



















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OnfireNY
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:40pmI say the Bishops should close the hospitals. When people have no place to go for heath care then they will begin to pay for their blatant disregard for human life. Catholics have been swept up in the Marxist understanding of “Social Justice” rather than a faith based understanding. If Catholics keep voting for Progressives we’ll see more and more encroachment into conscience exemptions.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:46pmthis is what happens when you back obahitlerstalinmao kill ya care.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 3:32pm40-50 million abortions authoized by the Federal Government is why there’s a short fall in Social security revenue. Labor produces wealth, therefore reducing the labor force of the next generation will have negative economic benefit.
Our God, father and creator commands us to reproduce. Economic cause affect, foolishness and evil are always economically costly.
Report Post »Seasoldier
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 3:35pmONFIRENY is quite correct. Elections have consequences. When we elect Socialist Culture of Death Elitists those consequences are deadly for the unborn, the elderly, the infirm, and for our Constitution and for our country. Fertility is not a disease. Conception is a function of the Natural Law written by God and cannot be amended by men. Contraception is a violation of that Natural Law and leads to extra-marital sex, divorce, abortion, destruction of the family, promotion of the homosexual agenda, the current population decline in Western developed countries and the undermining of our economy and our security. Pray for everyone immersed in the Culture of Death and work to remove them from every local, state and federal position of political, judicial and bureaucratic authority.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 3:43pmThe TRUTH about socialized healthcare.
A look at the Canadian health care system and how Canadians feel about it.
People were dying so they created super-hospitals. It’s scary that Liberals want to bring this to America. It’s lunacy.
Steven is an Conservative American who grew up in Canada. He’s funny, though this is a very serious subject so he doesn’t joke much in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/user/StevenCrowder#p/u/58/q2jijuj1ysw
The man who brought socialized healthcare to Canada wants to undo the damage he caused and Steven warns us, America’s HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION! Socialism is a failure. Someday Liberals will have to realize the damage they’ve caused and wake up to see the real world.
Report Post »Charity in Truth
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 3:47pmDear Tax-paying People of Good will,
Tell HHS you object to the contraceptive free-for-all funded by tax-payers.
email letter worth sending: http://www.all.org/article/index/id/OTExNw/
Many contraceptives act as abortifacients. We the People, need to insist on the repeal of Obamacare which opens pandora’s box of abortions, contraceptions, stem cell research, euthanasia, invitro fertilization etc. Human life needs to be protected and respected away from the clutches of the government and its special interest groups of Planned Parenthood a.k.a. abortion/contraception centers.
Report Post »hbunce
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 4:22pmTime for civil disobedience.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 4:39pmWhen our government asks or for that matter demands us to do something that goes against the teachings of the bible, then and only then are we to disobey. Sounds like a then moment. If ya don’t got the guts for it better get um. Not really lookin forward to being thrown in jail, but then I have no interest in being a puppet of the world either. NO STRINGS ATTACHED.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 8:25pm@poverty.sucks
What about the increase in employment numbers with an extra 40 million people running around? It was recently affirmed that the largest reason for the decrease in crime rate from the early 90s to today was the legalization of abortion 20 years prior. With less “unwanted kids” growing up with parents that could not provide for them financially and emotionally there was less troubled youth and, in turn, less criminals later down the road.
By making birth control more easily accessible you will be DECREASING the number of abortions while still preventing unwanted births. It’s a win – win.
And for anyone that thinks birth control is an abomination in the eyes of God just remember birth control comes in many forms. Masturbation, use of other orifices (mouth / hand / etc), the act of “pulling out”, condoms, even getting your tubes tied – those are all forms of birth control and are equally disgraceful in the eyes of God.
So quit the act. Free birth control is a good thing!
Report Post »DianneM
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 9:29pmIt isn’t just Catholics…It is every human being of faith., Those who belive that abortion is wrong and who belive that the birth control pill aborts the process of reproduction after it has already begun. The pill does not always stop ovulation, it stops the fertilized egg from adhering…It’s main way of “preventing” pregnancy is to make the woman’s body spit it out…Plan B does this with a higher dose if the condom breaks…We need to realize the idea of them worrying about us being well informed consumers is a lie…What they want is population control…and profit.
Report Post »Lux
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 1:05am@ VoteBushIn12
Well if people would follow Gods commandments and not have sex before marriage that would take care of the problem too.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 1:56am@Lux
Report Post »You don’t think married couples practice birth control? It has nothing to do with intimacy out of wedlock. Not everyone wants to live like the Duggars and have 19 kids.
Charity in Truth
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 7:25amNatural Family Planning is a way of following God’s plan for achieving and/or avoiding pregnancy. It consists of ways to achieve or to avoid pregnancy using the physical means that God has built into human nature. http://www.nfpandmore.org/
It is a travesty when a woman or young girl is pressured or taught by society to practice immoral sexual behavior and after conceiving is than pressured or taught that there is nothing wrong in killing the baby growing inside her womb. Abby Johnson used to be a Planned Parenthood director and had a life changing experience when she saw an abortion taking place which she writes about in her book unPLANNED.
Report Post »SECUREOURBORDERSNOW
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:42amWell said.
Report Post »Lux
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 12:17pmVote, in my speedy response I left out the world help. “Well if people would follow Gods commandments and not have sex before marriage that would [help] take care of the problem too.”
I know birth control is necessary but I don’t believe the government/tax payers should be the ones paying for it. That falls under personal responsibility. I remember reading an interesting study back in ‘04 about out of wedlock births in the USA. It said about 1.5 million (Rounded up) babies born in this country are born to unmarried mothers, which accounted for something around 36% of all births in 2004. I’m sure it’s only gone up since then. I would, however, be interested to know what that has jumped to in 2011. Does any one know?
Report Post »OuttoDoubt
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 2:24amFirst, @Lux
Neither the government, nor the taxpayers are paying for this. The law simply requires employers and insurers to include preventative care for women on their plans. That’s it. If you think that will raise the cost of insurance, think again. Preventative care doesn’t only mean birth control and abortions. Coverage for OBG/YN appointments to include pap smears, a test used to detect HPV which kills thousands every year through cervical cancer, and other routine examinations. To say covering such things would cost insurers more in the long run is like saying early cancer screens or just routine check ups would cost more than just paying for long term kemotherapy and hospital stays, and major sugeries that could be avoided by early diagnoses. That’s just plain silly!
Now, this absurd notion that birth control causes sexual abandon in women. If suddenly you were unable to procreate, would you then hump everything that moved? Didn’t think so.
Birth control is also used by millions of MARRIED couples to prevent unwanted pregnancies (which lowers abortion rates). My wife and I use birth control because we can’t afford neither the time or money required by a new baby, not so we can have unbridaled sex at all times of the day.
Also, lets not forget that many women use birth control to ease severe PMS symptoms that are dibilitating ,to say the least, for many women. My wife has taken birth control since she was a young teen for just this reason.
Report Post »jerry1945
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:34pmThey defied the bishop to back omabacare. They got what they ask for. However like most liberals they won’t learn their lesson.
Report Post »chubbzbar
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:45pmBack in my day birth control was free — it was called keeping your knees together !!! If a healthy woman can receive free birth control (including morning after pill), why can’t an unhealthy woman receive free heart medicine? Just asking.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 7:44pmThe pill is dangerous to women;it can cause clots,death and cancers later in life. The IUD is also dangerous. This is pressure to get women too bring down the birth rate even if it kills women. people are brainwashed to accept the pill and IUD when it is against their healh interests. The rhythmn method is safe ,if not 100 percent effective.having children is a natural part of life and to postpone it unnaturally can and does have negative and unforseen consequences[having children later in life has risks that having children when younger doesn't.]The obsession with controling birth is neurotic and does not ensure a better life. No one can predict the future and the consequences of having a child or not.Artificial control of birth is a unnecessary concern that women have been brainwashed to treat like a mark of liberation. Considering how dangerous these pills are it shows how manipulated by population control and feminists groups the culture is. The catholic church should not back down on their opposition to having to in any way comply with this antiwoman and anti -life ideology .
Report Post »Pelling1020
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 7:58pmROSIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sons of a motherless goat! What a reply!! Go Babe, you’re on a roll.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 9:16pmOMG, this is probably the second time I have actually agreed with Tokyo Rose Ellen.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 6:06am@biohazard23
Report Post »Posted on August 7, 2011 at 9:16pm
‘OMG, this is probably the second time I have actually agreed with Tokyo Rose Ellen.’
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I think Rose Ellen always has a consistent super Catholic position on all things, it stems from respect for the sanctity of life. Her views on war and injustice come from the same place as her anti-abortion and anti-contraception views. I do not agree with Rose Ellen a lot of the time, but I respect and understand where she is coming from, because I respect and admire the Catholic worldview she espouses.
Jimd2411
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:30pmIt has been evident for a while that “the smoke of Satan is in the Sanctuary.” The Body of Christ is, in part, made up of flawed, sinful, weak men and the results are what we see today. If it’s not too late, let’s sit out the next dance with the devil.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:29pmRepeal Obama and then repeal Obama care. End communism in America. Throw the commies out.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:27pmYOU WILL DO WHAT WE WANT. WE WILL FORCE YOU. WE DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR RELIGION, YOUR VALUES, YOUR THOUGHTS OR YOUR FEELINGS.
Love,
Liberals
Report Post »hopetochange2012
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 3:25pmThis is a question of freedom of religion. If Catholic organizations want to get around the provision, perhaps they should drop health care coverage altogether. If that is not possible, then there are a couple of options: 1. Sue the government on Constitutional grounds that this is a violation of freedom of religion; 2. Close all Catholic organizations being dictated to by our dictatorial government. You lefty-liberal-dictators need to be aware: we do not subscribe to your world-view; and you’d better leave us ALONE to practice OUR religion as WE see fit, not as you bastards would DICTATE to us. The USA is not a dictatorship. We will NOT submit to you bastards! The Declaration of Independence from Britain occurred for far LESS serious reasons than violation of freedom of religion.
Report Post »hopetochange2012
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 4:07pmBy the way, you used the expression “force you to”: you leftists are a bunch of bullies. No one is FORCED to work at Catholic hospitals/universities, etc. No one who does work at these organizations is PROHIBITED from paying CASH to BUY whatever birth control they want. It’s always about FORCE with the LEFTISTS in this country — it is the LEFTISTS who are INTOLERANT of freedom of religion. JAYCEN, you say “we will FORCE” you to do what you want us to do. Just remember: if somebody wants to talk about who is talking about the use of FORCE, it is YOU who FIRST mentioned the term “force.” I have a right to freedom of religion; and I have a right to DEFEND against YOUR “force.” You’re an intolerant bastard.
Report Post »intothelight
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:25pmYou were duped
Report Post »Ranubis
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:25pmSo to all you Catholics out there, explain to me why “the rhythm method” is an accepted form of birth control, but the pill isn’t.
Report Post »cmabillm12
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:51pmI am not catholic, however to answer you question, it is a choice. Have sex or not, based on ” do I want to get pregnant, or do I not”, knowing the biological cycle I could go on and on about this, however, I will not.
Report Post »Dudley Do-Right
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 2:36pmENCYCLICAL LETTER
HUMANAE VITAE
OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF
PAUL VI
Recourse to Infertile Periods
16. Now as We noted earlier (no. 3), some people today raise the objection against this particular doctrine of the Church concerning the moral laws governing marriage, that human intelligence has both the right and responsibility to control those forces of irrational nature which come within its ambit and to direct them toward ends beneficial to man. Others ask on the same point whether it is not reasonable in so many cases to use artificial birth control if by so doing the harmony and peace of a family are better served and more suitable conditions are provided for the education of children already born. To this question We must give a clear reply. The Church is the first to praise and commend the application of human intelligence to an activity in which a rational creature such as man is so closely associated with his Creator. But she affirms that this must be done within the limits of the order of reality established by God.
continued
Report Post »Dudley Do-Right
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 10:53amMy apologies…I can’t post the rest of it for some reason.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:24pmYou know, birth control isn‘t really expensive for most people and doesn’t need to be covered by anybody’s insurance.
Report Post »About $10 for a pack of 12, if memory serves. Problem solved.
57chevy
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:22pmLet me get this straight, they want me to pay for birth control, abortions, raising the children they have, unemployment, housing, food stamps, etc., eccceterrraa. Here’s an example; worked with a guy living with his girlfriend, they had children with other people, one on the ground and one on the way. He said he wanted to get his life together for his growing family, but he was not about to marry the mother because she would lose “benefits”. He stood there flat footed having never wrote a check to the IRS, property taxes for his kids school, or city taxes for the services he enjoys, in his life. (he is about 35) Expecting me to pay because I needed to be fair. Well, guess what, life isn’t fair. If they get get a check from the gov. everyone in the house should be drug tested. They should get 30 days notice if anyone in the house tests positive the checks stop. Period. This should cut the gimme roles down a bit. BTW, the baby was born with serious health issues. She had the best care out there, I helped pay for but I can’t afford to use because I work!!!!!!!!!!!. Glad she’s better, but they will have more (sigh) and you can’t breed out stupid, so it goes on and on…………..ENOUGH ALREADY.
Report Post »65Mustang
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 2:48pmDisgustingly true… I work two jobs without insurance.
Report Post »YesNdeedie
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:20pmI think anyone who uses abortion as a means of birth control should have their tubes tied and the male responsible be sniped. One mistake and you are done!
Report Post »WhatWasIThinking?
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:27pmI think that people who think that they have a lock on morality should read the Bible.
Report Post »cmabillm12
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:44pmI disagree, if a woman wants to get pregnant, she will. The Man, usually will not know untill it is too late. If a woman decides to abort, the man has no legal say in the matter, even if he should want the child. The woman gets the abortion. However, should that same woman wanting an abortion, be involved in an auto accident, which kills the fetus, the other driver, which may or, or not be responsible will be charged with homicide by vehicle. Go figure! In this day and age, there is not a female that does not know of the many methods to avoid pregnancy. However for the government to dictate that all medical facilities offer free abortion and or contriceptives, along with free condums, and BC pills, is a form of governmental sterilization, and a continued erosin of moral values.
Report Post »Slayer
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:13pmThis is all because the Catholic and Christian leadership are inherently Liberal and swooned with joy when Obama came onto the scene. None of our religious organizations have leadership that is serving us worth a damn any more. They’re weak-kneed Leftist fools slobbering before the altar of ‘social justice’.
Report Post »cmabillm12
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 2:06pmEvidentialy, you do not know the values placed on life
Report Post »Robert999
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:12pmGod will not return to loving America until abortion and birth control are once again illegal.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:31pmWhen was birth control illegal in America?
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 5:35pmBefore it was legal? Just guessin.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 8:12pmYour God loves unconditionally. And so do mine. Diite ament.
Report Post »Glenn is Right
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:08pmHoly crap.
I can’t believe Health Care is going to be dictated by Government.
These people can’t balance a budget and we are going to give them the power to dictate our Health Insurance.
If I were an Health Insurance provider, I would terminate all my policies. John Gault.
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:04pmHaving to murder babies in a Catholic hospital …..Wow how do you absorb that concept. I‘m a mackeral snapper and I sure can’t.
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:59pmDance with the devil did ya? How’d it go? LAWL
NoBama 2012
Report Post »awizard
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:55pm“In the critical final stages of the congressional health care debate last year, Catholic hospitals broke with the bishops to support passage of the legislation”
Heh,heh Ya got what ya wished for … What else we gonna find in this mess called obamacare before we can repeal it?..
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:52pmResist Nazi Eugenic Genocide!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:39pmDance with the devil as many of these groups did in supporting Obama-care and now they pay the price for selling out their honor and integrity for the glory of the moment.
Report Post »psst
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:37pmHonour and Integrity cannot be sold. Not for any amount of money .Or other forms of benefits.
Report Post »What was sold were all pretences. Pretence of Honour and pretence of Integrity.
Many denominations are but a shell of what they were once were.
Many Religions have been infiltrated and taken over by leftist/socialists/communists.
Why many people think Churches of all denominations are immune from such infiltrations is beyond me.
The unions have been infiltrated and taken over.
The old dem party have been infiltrated and taken over.
The republican party have been infiltrated a long time ago.
The public schools and universities have been infiltrated and taken over.
The MSM was taken over many many many moons go.
In the old Soviet Union, the only Churches that were allowed to operate were the ones controlled by the marxists.
I am a RC, but I know the Jusuit order is firmly controlled by the NWO/OWG. Have been for centuries.
Some Churches that have not been infiltrated by the left (as yet)are being run by charlatans for their own benefits.
The World is in turmoil. One must be ever watchful.Many Americans have been dumbed down and are extremely gullible to the seduction of the NWO/OWG.= Government Controls.
These are very dangerous times.
BTW. Even the WH have been infiltrated. We have a Poseur as prez.
OGUI
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:37pmActually for this one, the less breeding these people do the better
Report Post »BuckOfama
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:01pmI am with you OGUI….. I think it should go further that if you are on any gov. Freebies list or even unemployment you should be forced to take birth control, both male and female…..
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:30pmNot “forced” …just require them to sign a waiver stating you are being given free birth control for the duration of your time on welfare/foodstamps/unemployment…and any conception during that time equals a loss of benefits…prove you concieved before getting the benefits and you get them back under the same conditions/requirements.
Yeah, I know it takes two to tango…but it is the womans body that will be affected and it is the woman who will be “stuck” with the kid after the birth…so the responsibility is on them.
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:43pmI’m also w/ you, the fewer progressives conceived the better.
The only part I don’t like is that there is no co-pay for birth control; this drives the cost of health insurance & thus the cost of tax payer subsidized healthcare up.
Now if you are on welfare or Medicaid I’m okay w/ no co-pay because we should be encouraging you not to breed anymore welfare babies.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 3:52pmSounds like a good idea for the next Orkin commercial.
Report Post »Tepeyac
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:35pmNo surprise here…!!!! We are now more than ever being controlled by an Unconstitutional Government!!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:39pmBefore much longe we shall be a totalitarian state run by a dictatorship in all but name.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:35pmAnd the Tea party says; come on over and help us get rid of these bums!
Report Post »loveliberty83
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:34pmI am a woman & very angry have paid taxes all my life -they blame medicare for the problems BUT want to give free contraceptives it is about time we Stop given freebies
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:55pmnothing is free. we pay for it. we all pay for it. why is it our responsibility?
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:32pmThis is called… Obama coming back to bite you in the azz and thanking you for your support. LOL.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:31pmwell isn’t that precious, the catholic church is about to pay the price for agreeing with the devil. what’s the old saying “if you sleep with dogs you will wake up with fleas” unfortunatley it will take alot more than flea powder to get rid of the problems they are going to have with obamacare.
Report Post »daszim
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:01pmAs a Catholic I never supported, “Obama Care”, because Catholic Hospitals were already under attack by gov’t regulations. I really do not understand the thinking of those that think the gov’t will provide better than God? “Fleas?”, Old White Guy, no, no, this is much worse. Religious organizations that offer services need to be supported without gov’t funding. Again, this is relying on God to provide and not the gov’t. Until this mind-set within the Catholic Church is reversed the church will always come out on the losing side.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:26pmYeah Fleas also carry Bubonic Plague and Mange. This shows why I am not a believer in the Catholic Faith. Since they don’t know when to stand up for “God” at least in the US they don’t. They along with other Religious Denominations should do what Jesus would do and “Give unto Caesar what is Caesar‘s and unto God what is God’s”. Jesus never said that Religious Organisations should not pay taxes, they should but it is politicians wanting campaign cash from Churches that keep this tax exemption in place.
And as far as God is concerned the only effective method of Birth Control is abstinence because if you don’t put it in it can not seed the womb of its fruits!!!
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:29pmWow! Catholic organizations don’t like Obamacare? Join the club.
Report Post »Seede
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 12:56pmThen why are they bringing illegal in by the droves and have been for years? Isn’t that be cause the illegals are supposed to be catholic? They should get their stories straight.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 1:29pmJust like not all Conservatives support a Balanced Budget Amendment, not all Catholics support amnesty for illegals.
You’ve got to get out of the groupthink. There aren‘t very many monolithic groups who’s every member behaves like a brainwashed zombie. I hate to say it, but even among liberals that can often be true.
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