Rematch: Rep. Weiner Squares Off Against Hannity, Rep. Bachmann
- Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:48am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Sean Hannity had an idea on Thursday night: Since Reps. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and Anthony Weiner (D-NY) fought on TV on Sunday (or rather, Weiner mocked Bachmann on Sunday), let’s bring them back together in a “face off” to see what happens.
But instead of a repeat of Bachmann vs. Weiner, Hannity’s segment turned into Weiner vs. Hannity.
Weiner was his normal sarcastic, cocky self. But instead of going after Bachmann, he set his sights mainly on Hannity. At one point he crossed his arms and declared he was a “much better interview” than talking about Barack Obama, and then repeatedly took shots at Hannity’s interview techniques. He even called Hannity “buddy” during a lecture on follow-up questions. Hannity responded by jabbing back: “Poor Anthony Weiner, he’s having such a tough time here.”
Not to disappoint, Weiner did eventually turn his sarcasm and sly grin on Bachmann, especially when it came to talking about the Congressional Budget Office numbers:
In the end, Hannity’s idea paid dividends by creating exciting TV.
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WTSpike
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:19amWeiner is a real piece of work. A surplus in Social Security? Again blaming the Bush administration for all the spending they “had” to do? Look at him standing there with his arms crossed in a classic defensive posture while he talks down to the people who are actually rooted in reality. He’s condescending and rude, striving for small jabs and talking points to win his arguments with insults and derision. He’s Barney Frank sans about a hundred pounds.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:31pmSocial Security is currently in surplus. This is a fact. Bush spent a lot more money and raised the debt a lot more than Obama. This is a fact. Much of Bush’s spending was not required. This is a fact. Please stop telling us things that simply are not true.
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:48pmLet’s see, ABC, Bush: 8 years in office, Obama: 2 years…
Report Post »FIREDUDE
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:04pmABC you keep saying that PROVE YOUR DUMBASS COMMENTS WITH SOMETHING EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT????
Or did they not teach you how to add attachments at libitard college?????????
Report Post »APEXIdaho
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:18pmThere is no money in a SS account it is all taken out of the general fund they never put in the “lock box” it is all part of the general debt!
Report Post »henryKnox
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:27pmI bet Weiner knows all about bullying. I can’t imagine being in school with him and not dunking his head in the toilet. He reminds me so much of chuck schumer. Surplus today doesn’t mean there will be a surplus in 30 years…
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 12:19amABC you really take the cake for delusional thinking. If you really think that all of the crap we face now is because of Bush or one or the other party in general then you really need help, our problems are the result of a populace that far too long let the idiots that we elected and sent to DC do one unethical thing after another to grow their own power. Get your head out of your rear end and quit toeing the socialist partyline.
Report Post »idrathermisstotheright
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:17amReminds me of the elites views on everything, they live in another quadrant of their gray matter. Did anyone watch the Ted Nugent and Rosanne Barr exchange? Same issue we are all crazy and they are normal and we are nuts and the sad thing is they believe it with conviction.
These nuts use to get laughed at by the media but now they are embraced. Closing all the state mental hospitals across the nation 30 years ago surely had its ramifications. This wiener needed to be taken out behind the wood shed with a barber strap as a kid and taugh the lesson of respect
He is such a wiener head!
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:25amHow about send him to Singapor and let them cane his bottom a few times.
Reasonabiliy
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:17amWeiner says our Social Security has a surplus. If that‘s true and it’s not, let’s take the surplus and pay down the national debt. Mr. Weiner.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:30pmSocial Security is currently in surplus. What he said is true. Projections are that it will go into deficit in the future. However, as Republican billionaire and former Nixon Treasury Secretary Pete Peterson argued, by raising the retirement age by 3 years over the next 30 years, Social Security can remain solvent. So Weiner is not lying nor is what he is saying unreasonable. Hannity is a fool for saying SS is currently and irretreivably bankrupt.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:52pmABC, you’re a moron. Small wonder you admire Antony “Tiny” Weiner.
Report Post »ENTITLEMENTSBLOW
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:14amI thought is name was Weasel not Weiner?
Report Post »NC1
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:52amHe’s a weasel named Weiner.
Report Post »walker1812
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:14amGreat comment! Garbage in…garbage out. The demoRats way of doing business.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:11pmWhat about her hypocrisy? Calling it garbage when the CBO says something she doesn’t like but citing it a minute later when it shows what she wants? Care to comment on that??
Report Post »tranquilraider
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:34pmABC
Report Post »Not hypocrisy. Pay a little closer attention to what is actually being said. The garbage in was referring to the numbers the Democrats gave the CBO. If the numbers were accurate then Hannity and Bachmann shouldn’t have a problem. She claims graph that she was showing from the CBO had accurate numbers, while the report Weiner was citing did not.
abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:50pmTranquilRaider, I understand what Bachmann is claiming, but the problem is that it isn’t true. Hannity stated the supposed problems with the inputs, but those claims are not true either. And by the way, who do you think gave the CBO the inputs to calculate the deficit figures on the chart? The same people who gave them the inputs for the health care projections. Finally, the guys on the CBO are not stupid men, nor do they not have reputations to uphold. They will not put “garbage” in when they can see that it is garbage. Only a fool like Bachmann would claim that such expert economists would do such shoddy work knowingly. This is yet another fiction to justify the nonsensical ravings of the republican party.
Report Post »Benjamin Linus
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:26pm@ABC
Bachman citing a report by the CBO on actual spending is far different from Weiner citing the CBO on projected spending using bad assumptions and information given to them by one party. Do you understand ACTUAL vs ESTIMATE?
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:27pmThe CBO has to use the figures given to it by the Congress. This is called “garbage in, garbage out”. The CBO has never been right in predicting the cost of a project. The man who was the head of the CBO and has since retired has stated publicly that Obama care is going to increase the deficit a minimum of 750 billion dollars. Any one who tries to use the CBO as the authoritative source of their argument are either ignorant of the CBO being forced to use the figures given to it by Congress only, or are purposely trying to blow smoke up your behind. Which one are you?
Report Post »SafeguardOurLiberty
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:13amI listened to Hannity on the radio when he had Weiner on. I can’t believe this little weasel is in congress. He is rude, uninformed, no class, and disturbing to say the least. The people that voted him in are just as bad to have him represent them.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:53amUninformed? What point did he make that was wrong? I dare you to name a single one.
Report Post »TrueGrit
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:18pmFOLKS…
For those of you who understand… many thanks..
for those of you who don’t- read my older posts.
Wolverine
Report Post »FIREDUDE
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:01pmHE NEVER ANSWERED A QUESTION………… SO YOU ARE HALF RIGHT HE DIDNT GET ANYTHING WRONG……..
Please stop my stomach cant handle anymore stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:11amI can’t listen to Weiner,or Obama, or Nancy Peolsi just hearing their voices drives me to humm chopping wood
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:09amDon’t forget Harry! I am wearing out the mute button on my remote!!!!
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:11amHere’s something for Mr. Weiner to be proud of – 41% of NYC pregnancies end in abortion – shocking and disgusting –
Report Post »http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=7883827
tranquilrider
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:06pmDid Wiener have sex with all those women?
Report Post »WTF are you even talking about?
tranquilrider
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:35pmDid you even read the article that you posted a link to?
Report Post »Can you say Diversity??????
tranquilraider
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:53pm“We believe in comprehensive sex education, which by the way does include abstinence, but abstinence by itself has been proven to be ineffective,”
41% abortion rate doesn’t sound like the current education is effective.
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:10amWatched it and all wiener could do was try and spout of a lie enough times to try and get them to believe it. He is an embarASSment to the US Congress. Sad pitiful man that just will not accept he is wrong. Case in point was the CBO numbers that he argued with Michele.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:09amDon’t let it get around, but Weiner and Grayson are butt buddies. They have to be since they sound so much alike. A comment on here about Hannity is a schill, all I have to say is that unlike Weiner, Hannity can answer questions instead of trying to get around them.
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:21pmVery mature comment
Report Post »Hannity doesn’t answer any questions, he simply talks over the people he disagrees with.
When you pose a question that factually is wrong, it makes it tough to give a yes/no answer.
Social security will be bankrupt in the future, It’s in a surplus right now (fact)
WBOB
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:08amHe has the perfect name….matches his attitude perfectly.
Report Post »dawgPound
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 12:02amYep, he is a total Anthony
Report Post »LukeAppling
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:08amWeiner, Schumer, Paterson, Cuomo, YIKES this state has a problem getting actual people that can be likable. So many of the liberals are just obnoxious on their best day.
Report Post »dablooz
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:19amYou forgot Rangel, Bloomberg, Nadler, Meeks, Ackerman, Slaughter … and formerly Eric Massa. What a crew. You’d think a state with such a huge population as New York, they could field a little better team than that. Notice most of the Yankees are imports. Since the taxes are so high there, most natives leave and go to Florida. Maybe this cast is the “best of the rest”?
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:08amhas anyone out there noticed that when weiner or almost every other liberal is asked a direct yes or no question they go off in another tirade{repubs do too}!!!answer yes or no……..quit trying to change the subject
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:35pmHas anyone else noticed that when Republicans ask questions they start with a false premise requiring a truth-teller to answer the question in a different way? And has anyone noticed that when that false premise is revealed with true facts, the Republican changes the subject or laughs with embarassment as Hannity did in this segment? And has anyone noticed that when Republicans do not have the facts on their side, they focus on how impolite the other guy was? And is anyone here embarrassed that Hannity and Bachmann clearly do not know the difference between basic economic concepts like deficit and debt, which should undermine completely their credibility on economic issues? And is anyone further embarrassed that most people writing here know less about economics and the budget than these two Republican apologists but think that they can judge someone knowledgable like Weiner?
Report Post »dawgPound
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 12:05amNo ABC, if republicans were able to see the things you pointed out they wouldn’t be republicans
Report Post »rkrives
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:08amI just love the way the dems say that repealing the health care “coverage” act is repealing health care itself.
Report Post »M 4 Colt
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:57amI just love the way Dems say repealing health care will cost billions and billions of dollars but has started taxing all of use already for a program that will not start providing service for four more years
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:18pmNo smart liberal would say that. What they say is that repealing health care reform will increase the deficit, which is true. The explanation is clear for those willing to listen, as Weiner said in this interview. We are already paying for the uninsured both with private and public dollars, so reforming the system to cut the costs of paying for them saves money. Only fools or calculating politicians that think others fools have argued otherwise. I’m not sure what category Bachmann falls into.
Report Post »TexasHillsPatriot
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:04amWeiner is a snarky, petty, little person. Can’t get myself to call him a man.
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:02amI wish Fox would quit giving this guy air time. I started to watch this last nite, could’nt take it, had to turn the channel to Star Trek.
Report Post »48
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:20amOn the other hand, it’s good that Fox does give him the air time because then the people can see what an idiot he is. From one show to the next he gets worse.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:14pmWeiner is not an idiot. He was the only one who got the facts right. And Fox got its job done by leaving you with the opposite impression. Hannity says that Obama is welcome on his show anytime. Well, Hannity is welcome to debate a qualified economist at a neutral location anytime. Guess what? He won‘t show because he’ll lose. The guy who doesn’t know the difference between debt and deficit should not be moderating a debate over budget or economics. And only a similarly ignorant person would say he should.
Report Post »FIREDUDE
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:57pmIf I am not mistaking the deficit is caused by DEBT?????
THANK YOU AGAIN AAAAAABBBBBCCCCC
YOU HAVE PROVEN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:17pmNo, Fire, it’s the other way around — debt is caused by deficit.
(No offense, just correcting.)
Report Post »Miss Muffin
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 5:56pmmore your mental capability
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:23pmWow, first time Komp and I have agreed on anything
Report Post »oldsoldier10
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:01amI watched the interview and Wiener is such a oafish child, how does anyone take him seriously, I really feel bad for his constituents. A Wiener is second only on the oafish moron list to A Grayson.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:01amI hope his state is proud of the idiot. Because he can’t answer a simple question. It must be a state thing. If that is all they can come up with, that state is in sad shape. Hannity nailed his butt to the wall last night. All he could do was contradict himself. Then when he couldn’t get Hannity to buy that then he just kept repeating himself.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:13pmWhy is he an idiot? What question didn’t he answer? Why couldn’t Bachmann respond to any of his points? How badly does he have to destroy her with the facts before you’ll conceded the point? I suspect you’ll stick with her no matter how wrong you know she is. When she says 1 + 1 = 3, you’ll cheeer.
Report Post »FIREDUDE
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:51pmABC I love it you just keep proving how much of a MORON you are……….
Please stop my big fat stumach hurts from laughing at you………………
Report Post »chickenbig
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:10pmABC needs look into a mirror and try to figure out why ABC is also an idiot.
I didn’t know BS can get you drunk…ABC is way intoxicated on liberal BS.
Report Post »M 4 Colt
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:59amWhat rematch, Weiner NEVER answers the questions asked of him, he always trys to change the question asked of him to one HE thinks he has the answer to. Michele KICKED the Weiner’s butt last night!!!!
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:55amEvery time Wiener makes an appearance it becomes more and more apparent just how obnoxious, arrogant, disrespectful, and narrow minded he is. I predict that before too long we will see him making fewer and fewer appearances on T.V. because the Democrat party will realize that his appearances are damaging to their party and will pressure him to stop talking on TV.
Report Post »Personally I am glad every time he is on TV although I actually hate to watch and listen to him, but I realize that he is an ever giving gift to the Conservative point of view. Thanks Tony the whiner.
abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:20amThe reason why he is arrogant and disrespectful and narrowminded is because he is saying 1 + 1 = 2 while Bachmann is saying 1 + 1 = 3. If you continued to spout something so obviously wrong, I’d act the same way toward you. That everyone here focuses on the form rather than substance of the debate is revealing to me. Either you don’t know the facts or you are choosing to stay in denial about them. Either way, the reality is this: the GOP is responsible for the vast majority of our financial woes, but a sizeable minority of this country believes with religiosity that they are the only party you can trust on budget matters. This is collective insanity raised to an art form. But it is hurting the US greatly.
Report Post »BlueknightUSA
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:28pmABC…how can you say the GOP is responsible for the majority of our financial woes when the last Congress with Obama spent more money and created more debt then all previous congress’s and presidents before them…combined??
Report Post »BIGDAN63
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:48pmRickfromillinois, I agree with what you said, but this is directed at the other whining, obnoxious, narrow minded, arrogant, pompous arse blogger on here ABC. If you done an inkling of research you would know that Social Security will most like be insolvent in 6 to 9 years. so you do the math, cause that other obnoxious wind bag can’t seem to do simple basic arithmetic
Report Post »BIGDAN63
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:02pmI’m not blaming Obama on the debt, that Pelosi and the rest of the arrogant Democrats. they are the ones you spent our hard earn money like a teenage girls with her first credit card. in 4 years they spent more then 5 trillion dollars and lied to the country about what it was going for. and lets talk about the surplus of funds from Clinton’s term, oh low and be hold it wasn‘t the Dem’s in control of congress back then, it was the Republicans, they are the ones who cut spending on idiotic projects like the high speed rail in Florida, from Tampa to Orlando. nobody is going to be riding that to go to any of the theme parks, and here is the big clincher, because its too far from all the parks to be worth while to even use it. so ABC how about you put your muzzled back on you rabid dog till you get better educated
Report Post »Whatsizface
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:03pmIt’s almost like you expect him to end every thing he says with “… what are you, an idiot?”
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:30pmBlueKnight, what spending? You do know that the deficit doubled in the last year of the Bush presidency, right? You do know what the last recession did to federal budget deficits, as income declines cut tax receipts while unemployment checks and other “automatic stabilizers” increased government spending without a single legislative act in Congress, right? So please tell me the major spending outlays in Pelosi and Reid’s Congress that caused the deficits above and beyond the impact of the economy. I’m sure it will be very enlightening.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:19pmYou do know that the debt raised 5 trillion in the last 2 years right? Go ahead and stick up for you icon Tony “the whiner” Wiener”. Like I said, every time he makes an appearance on TV the number of people who are against whatever he is for grows. Of course there are always the mindless fanatics, meine parti uber alles, such as yourself.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 8:07pmRick, here are the numbers: we are running a $100B deficit per month, so that’s $4.8T over two years. But that doesn’t change everything I wrote earlier on how you cannot find $5T in new spending initiatives from Pelosi, Reid or Obama. Most of those deficits reflect a continuation of deficits that we saw in the final year under Bush, and most of the rest is a reflection of the economic recession. That you do not understand this means you understand very little about our budget and the problems behind it. Go learn the figures before drawing the erroneous conclusions that you draw. You should be embarrassed that you blog about a subject that you actually do not understand.
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:55amHannity is horrid. He’s been horrid for years. Glen at least listens to people and questions the Republican Party. Hannity is a shill.
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:14amI used to think that Hannity was a little abrasive in his interviews, but after a couple years, I‘ve realized he’s always the one that asks direct questions and when he doesn’t get at least some answer to the question he calls the “guest” on it… and then keeps after them, instead of letting them avoid it. I’ve noticed that most all the liberals, insist it is their right to just talk about what THEY want to say. Whatever he might be, Hannity is nobody’s “shill.”
Report Post »Ser Scot
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:19amJust to clarify, this is not to say Rep. Wiener is good people. I just can’t stand Hannity either.
Report Post »WestOfThePecos
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:37amAmend. He is my #1 least favorite conservative.
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:40am@ Scott… I understand… and agree that Hannity can be grating. I was just pointing out that, per the definition of “shill,“ it is almost ALL of the liberal media ”interviewers” that are actually shills. Look up the word, and you’ll know what I mean.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:17amTotally agree with that comment. At the end of the interview, he doesn’t get the answer he wants but rather an explanation on why the premise of the question is wrong, so he just repeats the premise again. Hannity is not interested in facts or truth, but only in furthering the interests of the GOP, which are propagandistic. But more fundamentally, he is not very smart. He is doing an interview about budgetary matters and confuses the concepts of debt and deficit as though they are interchangeable when in fact they are totally different. Perhaps this is intended, since a proper analysis of each concept will show that Bush contributed, depending on your actuarial assumptions, 10-20x as much to our debt as obama. But my guess is that this theory gives way too much credit to Hannity’s intellect.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:21amAt least he is a conservative, unlike Oriely who is a RINO.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:33amhannity is a moron!!
Report Post »arjundawg
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:46amHannity just goes with the flow
2008- he aired over and over the ron paul supporters chasing him
Paul wanting to bring our troops home was his main priority
Bob Barr and the war on drugs was his top priority
Alan Keyes coming in late was his top priority
And anyone stealing votes from the Republican was by far one of his top priorities
No pale, pastels (elect a liberal Republican) and hope we can fix the party from within
I agree with Hannity on many many things
Report Post »but him being a principled conservative before being a Republican
Sorry I don’t buy it
abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:57amHannity tried again to save Bachmann (remember her appearance after Chris Matthews wiped the floor with her in ‘08?) and again failed. He is worse than a shill. He doesn’t know anything about economics, which is why he confused the words debt and deficit, as if you can use those terms interchangeably. what a fool.
Report Post »uncleherbert
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 4:05pmYou have not convinced me there sir scot. Hanity was pressing and wenier was missing. BTW She would make a great POTUS.
Report Post »chickenbig
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:18pmChickenbig agrees with Chickenlittle !
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 11:22amShill, perfect description. Sooo many responses he cuts off if he doesn’t like them. Rep Anthony Wiener is on target here. He has the facts. The debt ceiling was raised SEVEN TIMES under Bush. Where was the screaming then?? Where is the answer to his question about medical care being paid for by US for people who don’t have insurance? (Sean changed the topic to rescue Rep Bachmann from having to answer.) His typical “interview style. And the football…please….I give him credit for not tapping into the whole “legs chair” strategy though :)
Report Post »Muslim in Chief
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:53amI hope one morning to get up, and see Weiners face on a milk carton
Report Post »ohioann
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:03amThat would sour the milk!
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:05amWhy would you want to ruin perfectly good milk?
Report Post »Idaho Kirk
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:05amI would throw-up a perfectly good bowl of Cherrios!
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:24pmWay to argue the facts folks.
Report Post »chickenbig
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:28pmLittle Weiner was on a milk carton and went unclaimed.
Report Post »Independent Tess
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:51amWeiner is such s weiner.
Report Post »Independent Tess
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:03am“ a weiner”…sorry
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:58amIt’s Wiener. That means from the city of Vienna in German. How ignorant are you??
Report Post »BlueknightUSA
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:14pm@ABC Ok, here I am focusing on the facts…
Report Post »WE ARE BROKE. WE CANNOT CONTINUE THE CRAZY LIBERAL SPENDING SPREE THAT YOU SEEM TO SUPPORT.
How’s that?
Tore
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:15pmDamn you said it before me
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:22pmBlue Knight, what liberal spending spree? Bush and the GOP Congress increased debt by 10-20x what Obama did. And a quick check at the Treasury or NBER websites will confirm that the worst debt increase under a Dem President (Carter) was better than the smallest debt increase under a Republican President (Nixon), which means that the Republicans are the big spenders, not the Democrats. And while Congress writes spending bills, the President as one person signs them, so he carries the biggest blame. The Clinton WH cut the deficit and debt in their first two years, with a Dem Congress and then cnotinued with the GOP Congress, such that we had a surplus in ‘00. Bush and a GOP Congress squandered it, with Boehner there to share the blame. But you continue to lie and say the Dems spend more. This is factually incorrect. How can you continue to say something that isn’t true and not be called out for lying??
Report Post »FIREDUDE
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:33pmABC I was goiong along with some of the stuff you were saying and trying to figure you out then I came to the part about George W. outspending Husein by 10 or 20x????
You have just proven to me that it does not matter how many initials you have before or after you name you are A COMPLETE F@@KING MORON!!!!!!!!!
Just that one comment if you really believe what you said you are so wasting your time at Harvard and could of went to a community college and got a better education…………
Report Post »FIREDUDE
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:43pmABC if the Dems did not spend more than Bush how come the debt ceiling went up so far???
Let me guess Sarah Palin did it..
You say are facts are incorrect dude I pray you did not pay for your education or you got SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is dumbasses like you that keep this country going in the wrong direction….
YEs I am calling you names becuase as I was told growing up always tell the truth even if they dont like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »butchcoolidge
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:19pmEven the racoons on great outdoors knew what wieners are made of; lips and ********…
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 4:03pmFirst Round went to Wiener, mostly due to the untimely CBO quote by Bachmann.
Round 2 goes to Hannity. Bachmann, as ABC said, is being propped up by Hannity. You can even tell that from the first 2 minutes, where Bachmann doesn’t talk. THINK ABOUT IT, as a viewer, wouldn’t you rather see the politicians just argue, then have a moderator throw premised points. Hannity didn‘t even try to play devil’s advocate.
I will credit him with some success in this interview however, it was about as civilized a debate as you can find on Hannity.
I couldn’t tell you if Wiener is right or wrong, because CBO numbers are no good, and I still have no idea what the truth is about Social Security, but the guy holds his own. He frames his arguments well, represents himself well, and commands attention. Bachmann stood no chance by herself.
But the reason Hannity wins round 2 is Wiener’s reasoning for the mandate, listen again…..Government forcing personal responsibility.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:27pmFireDude, thanks for the compliments. It’s not every day that I receive so many choice words in a single post. Multiple posts, yes. But not a single one.
Here’s the thing, despite the name-calling, you’re still wrong. You fail to cite any figures in your post, which is a poor choice in a debate about economics and budget. And we all know that he who fails to cite the numbers is doomed to talk nonsense.
Obama has increased the debt with his TARP and stimulus plans, but most of the TARP money is already paid back (unlike Reagan’s SNL crisis resolution) and the stimulus was less than $800B, so let’s call it roughly $1T. In addition, he is continuing to spend on Iraq and Afghanistan, but those are wars he’s locked into because of Bush, so I wouldn’t count those gainst him and, in any case, they haven’t been raised off of the Bush baseline. Now, Bush, on the other hand, has lifted the deficits and debt far above the preceding Clinton baseline. He started two wars that he refused to put on-balance sheet. That’s going to cost $2-3T right there. His tax cuts, which are responsible for 25% or more of the current deficit, account for another $400B per year. And his Medicare Part D legislation will cost another $32T over the next 60 years, according to Pete Peterson, a Republican and former Sec’y of the Treasury. So that means that over the next 60 years, Bush has added $2T (let’s be generous to Bush) on the wars, $24T on the tax cuts and $32T on the Part D, or $48T. This compares to Obama’s $1T. Now, maybe we should only credit Bush for 7 years of tax cuts, which is $2.8T and hit Obama with 2 years of those cuts, which is $800B. That would make it about $37T for Bush and $1.8T for Obama. So I guess you’re right. I was wrong. It’s not 10-20x at all, but even more than that. Thanks for setting me straight.
Report Post »IntrepidSI
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:47pmABC and the rest of those who get paid to post here can talk about “Money well spent” all you want. However, BHO spent a trillion dollars on Stimulus. What did it do besides make Union bosses rich and bring pork to a whole new level? IF this President had made JOB creation his number one priority rather than social experimentation (by their own admission, See DNC Chair Kaine’s interview with CNN last week) we would have prosperity or at least be heading toward it. Instead, we wasted a trillion dollars and two years. Is that money well spent? Is that time well spent? Put down the MSNBC, stop taking the meds and cut your ponytail. Reality is calling.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 8:08pmIntrepid, the stimulus saved 3.5 M jobs, according to the CBO. I guess having a 9%+ unemployment rate rather than a 13-15% one is a waste in your mind, but most Americans would disagree with you. Perhaps you need the meds, not me.
Report Post »FIREDUDE
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 7:52amABC
You write in a post to me that Husein raised the debt 1.8T and GWB raised it 976,000T (joke) then the next segment down you say he has raised it 5T make up your mind you are so all over the place nobody not even for one second will believe what you are saying………….
Dude you need to slow down and watch what you are writing it is really funny and still have not shown any proof?????
By the way the afgan war was when the demotards got in and wantd to go there…. So Bush iraq ( which was sucssful) Husein afghanisatn and you know that is even how the dumbass said about the war all along.
He even ran his campain saying we should be in afghanistan not Iraq. So if you knew your fats you would realize this.
Now everyone is in Pakistan what is he going to do about that????
7:51 am eastern time and my stomach is hurting from all your DUMBASS POST!!!!!!
BY THE WAY NOBODY IS COMING BEHIND YOU AND DEFENDING YOU????? MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET THE HINT!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Oh, God!
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:51amWatching Weiner is like listening to nails scraping on a chalkboard.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:21amI agree, it says alot about New Yorkers that they like this condescending clown. Every time I see his smirking face I am disgusted. No class, no sense, and no manners.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:30amI was one of the unfortunate ones who saw the Face the Nation show on Sunday. Weiner and Wasserman-Shulz on the same show was my punishment from God for missing church (will not happen again I can tell you.)
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:02amAlso, you can always tell when someone’s guy lost the debate. They focus on form rather than substance. The commentary here is around how he said things. How about focusing on what Wiener said? His facts were so powerful in undermining Hannity and Bachmann that this site wants and hopes that you don’t focus in on that. Very revealing how powerful the denial is among Republicans about the economic dishonesty of their party and pundits.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:13amBachmann got creamed by Matthews a couple years back with her anti-American and real American comments, so Hannity has to undertake a reclamation project to bail her out. Apparently, he’s at it again given her poor showing on Sunday. But who can blame him, she has such a poor understanding of economics that she needs a lot of help. Sadly, Hannity knows less than she does, so the viewers lose out by hearing a bunch of misinformation. Rather than focusing on the substance of what was said, this blog only exacerbates the problem by focusing on tone and emotion rather than the facts at issue. The Blaze is in it for money and ratings, but it could at least pretend like they want to inform future voters on this very important issue. If Seidl really cares about that journalistic function, then he ought to fact check and report the accuracy of what was said. What he will find and you will learn is that WIENER IS RIGHT AND BACHMANN IS WRONG on the issue of health reform cost savings and the key contribution of tax cuts and Bush’s profligate spending on our current debt overload. I tried to lay this out before, but my posting never went through. Hopefully, that was a technology glitch rather than a nefarious attempt to hide Blaze viewers from the true facts on this issue…
seeker9
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:56amABC, Hannity is bailing out Bachman for a 2 year old interview? Get real.
Still going to get your Ivy League PhD?
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:09pmSeeker, you’re really not that dumb. Just a poor reader. He bailed her out on the show since she flailed on another show on Sunday. This is exactly what Hannity did for her two years ago after Matthews destroyed her on his show. Hannity did the same thing for Michelle Malkin when Matthews wiped the floor with her during the Kerry-Bush Presidential race. Hannity is a propagandist for the GOP, which is why is gets his facts wrong and inconsistently grills Dems while pitching Republicans soft balls. At some point the Blaze will post my repeated entries highlighting all the mistakes and factual inaccuracies that hannity and Bachmann committed so you can be enlightened. This comment merely points out that when you don’t have the facts on your side, you guys focus on how polite the Democrat wasn’t. This is the tell-tale sign that you have been crushed by the evidence yet again.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:06pmDon’t you know seeker9 that most ******** like ABC are professional students? They spend their lives in University getting one phony degree after another. Eventually they are asked by one of their ******* buddies to come and work for the government and low and behold you get California, New York, Illinois or just about any Democratically controlled city in the US where they believe the economy is made better by the highest tax rates they can get. Think about it. This idiot argues day after day that conservatives are wrong and liberals really can create utopia in the face of day to day news coming from Europe and all the Socialist Utopias of their spectacular failure.
Report Post »You can only explain it one way, Brain Damage.
TheLascone
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:00pmOh c’mon ya big Weiner ….
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23630227@N06/5229724063/in/photostream/
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 4:51pmYou hit the nail on the head, Oh, God. Look at Bachmann…then look at Weiner….who would you believe?
Report Post »JimOhio
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:16pmIn all seriousness, don’t you think Weiner looks like Beavis from Beavis & ********? Seeing him on TV just reminded me of Beavis, facial features, mannerisms etc. Oh well I had a grandmother on my fathers side that reminded me of Fred Flintstone. By the way ABC sounds like a soundtrack loop.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:39pmNeofan, you call me a *******. How original. How many hours did it take to come up with that one. And professional student? That’s hillarious. I finished multiple degrees in record time and on my own dime (unlike many Tea Partiers who now want to cut off govt aid to other students), but still banked enough money to retire before 40. But go on and convince yourself otherwise. It suits you and your kind.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:22pmABC, so you accomplished all or most of that under the Bush administration? Why are you so … liberal? You could easily return to work and donate your earnings for deficit reduction! At least you could donate your unfar Bush tax cuts. There is a site where you can donate (charitable rather than deficit reduction) called, I think, giveitback.org. That name doesn’t sound right, but it is similar. Do a little research.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:51pmABC: …on my own dime (unlike many Tea Partiers who now want to cut off govt aid to other students)…
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HUH??? Half of what you write is incoherent, and the other half is propaganda. Grrrrrrr. You irritate my brain.
CultureWarriors
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:56pm@Oh, God! Nails on a chalkboard … Perfect metaphor!
Report Post »what4
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:51amThrow the Weiner on a bun and drown it in mustard!!!!
Report Post »MAULEMALL
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:58amYou gotta Know that he got slapped around alot as a kid…
He’s gonna make somebody a good wife once he gets his anger under controll.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:01amHis behavior is indicative of people on the left. Little spoiled children.
Report Post »Reagan/DeMint.disciple
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:06amFrom the day before, needs reposting …….. C/////////3 <– An Anthony Weiner by Wasserman Shultz & Co…
Report Post »This Guy is so smug, Just the very sight of him with his eye rolls and smirks, as if Hannity and Bachman are some sort of fools and HE is the only one that knows and can teach them, is really vile.. Just looking at this guy, I have to put my index finger on my lips… To hold the vomit from ejecting onto my rug.. I CAN'T STAND THIS MORON !!!!! Can't N.Y do ANY better than this ? Geez !!
heavyduty
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:13amFox news got the title wrong when they said that it was a rematch. There was no match at all. If fact it would be safe to say that the only ones that Weiner has got are the ones that voted him into office. I bet they are wishing he would shut up. Because every time he opens his mouth he shows just how stupid he is.
Report Post »SteveSD
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:18amThis is not the politician you are looking for. Nothing to see here. Move along… move along…
:)
Honestly? I’m done with people like Weiner. They will never see the truth, and no truth comes out of their lips. Life is too short. Let’s just ignore him and proceed with the restoration of the country. He will go away soon enough.
Report Post »Boss J
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:21amI hope someone catch’s on video when real life crashes into his lib, fantasy world.
Report Post »hkyfan36
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:24amWatching Sean is like a soap opera. I can turn it off and tune back in a month/year later and its the same stuff. Watching Sean and Weiner was like a smug fest. Even Bachmann was looking boared.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:24amGot a simpler idea, just ship him off to the middle of antarctica and leave him there in permanent exile for his bad actions against the nation.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm
snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:26am@MAULEMALL
Do you mean him being a good wife in or out of prison?
jakartaman
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:27amThe more this dope get in front of a camera and the public sees he for what he is (arrogant socialist)
Report Post »the better the cause for the tea party!
Even independents are starting to get it – The country is changing – I hope its not too late!
tobywil2
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:28amWhat a terrible waste of mustard. http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »Highland
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:30amIsn‘t he tired of being Huma’s beard?
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:32amThis is just another example of the use of the “preponderance of propaganda”! The wannabe tyrants and their cronies are publicizing lies, half-truths and the irrelevant to avoid a discussion of the issues. Pay no attention to the smokescreen.
Report Post »When the premise is false the only arguments that can be used are fear mongering, emotion, sarcasm, ridicule, attacking the messenger and misrepresentation of the facts (lying). Those who expect to reap huge profits from our misery caused by tyranny are experts at these tactics.
The only relevant issue is freedom or tyranny!!!! http://commonsense21c.com/
drbage
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:35amEven the people who put Grayson in office woke up on November 2, 2010, will the same happen to whiney Weiner in November, 2012?
Report Post »RightWrite
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:41amBachmann and Palin, 2012
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:44amI really am not looking for exciting tv, I would like Weiner to show some respect for his fellow Congressional members instead of acting like a complete ass. I am beginning to think being a smart ass is a prerequisite for the democratic party: Weiner, Grayson, Wasserman-Schultz are the obvious ones that come to mind.
Report Post »leftiesaredangerous
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:05amHonestly, I just want to smack that Weiner. He’s a disgrace and an arrogant weasle.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:08amWeiner is in a city district that does not care or vote. The little votes that he gets are enough to put him in. Until this get‘s redistricted he’s there for awhile. It’s obvious that his district does not care because any other district would be outraged by his behavior! He is in a very strong minority area, not being disrespectful, but he like so many left wing reps, tell the constituents how they are being discriminated against while keeping them in poverty..sad to say..
Report Post »slickmeister
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:18amI hope we see more of Weiner on the talk show circuit. He’s the perfect poster boy for the delusional Left.
Report Post »taskmaster78
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:23amThis man lies with a straight face, unreal.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:32amRightWrite, how about Christie/Bachmann?
Report Post »MrScribbler
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:49amWeiner is an arrogant little jerk who lives in a communist dream-world where his every wish is paid for by taxpayers. But putting him up against Hannity is like pitting one spoiled, thoughtless child against another.
Stick to worshiping at The Newt’s feet, Sean. That’s your level of competence: a small Schmoo cuddling up to a big Schmoo.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:51amWHAT IS IT WITH NEW YORK. They have this love affair with Arrogant,Egotistical,Little People with Big Mouths, and in the case of Mr Weiner …….a First Place Snot.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:56amAll the name calling… I guess Wiener got the conservatives all rowled up by presenting the facts that clearly show what a menace GOP budgetary politics are to this country. No substantive comments from anyone here, because they lose on that. So just call the guy names. How intelligent and honest.
Report Post »Dandylyon
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:56amI don‘t think I have ever watched someone like this clown that excel’s at makeing a damn fool of himself.Most liberals do well but Weiner(what a great name)has got to be the best.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:08pmABC, do you take everything that Weiner says as true fact and consevatives always lie?
How are you doing on your Ivy League PhD?
Report Post »MichiganPatriot
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:10pm@WHAT4 – I wouldn’t eat that weiner…you will probably get indigestion! YUK!
Report Post »NapoHill15
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:18pmThis Wiener, this by-product of liberalism, like the pig food product, is most accurately referred to as Sphincter. Let’s call a spade a spade: The Sphincter is a poster child for everything that’s wrong with liberalism . . . politics in general.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:27pmSeeker, absolutely not. I independently confirm the facts on the Treasury website or from independent, non-partisan sites from the CBO or NBER. They say what Weiner said. But you cannot know this, since the moderator of this blog, like Hannity, prefers propaganda to fact. And that is why my two posts, that go fact by fact and rebut all the false claims made by hannity and Bachmann, are not being posted on this website. Seidl wants to further misinformation apparently. And you all are the losers, since you are left misinformed as a result. Weiner has the facts right, while Bachmann has them wrong. End of story. But if you want to praise the politician telling you 1 + 1 = 3, go right ahead. Eventually, our Chinese creditors will do to us what was done to Ireland. That latter country’s tax rates were too low, so the EU forced them up to pay for all the debt they had incurred. You don’t hear about that on Fox or GB shows either. Because it doesn’t fit the narrative that liberals are marxist and conservatives will save the country from reckless spending. Orwell is turning in his grave.
Dustyluv
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:29pmWeiner…he sure was maned correctly…
Report Post »Curator_JDR
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:34pmWeiner thinks if he talks louder and faster than anyone else, people will listen. He twists facts and lies.
This animated short feature exposes the insanity of the Progressives with big time humor. Its time to LAUGH at “them” and they can’t stand being laughed at.
http://www.marcrubin.com/hairmerica.ivnu
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 12:50pmABC says this,
No substantive comments from anyone here, because they lose on that. So just call the guy names. How intelligent and honest.
and this,
Hannity is as weak as Bachmann
and this
shows you how low Bachmann will stoop to help her political career.
and this
Preying upon the ignorant is the name of the game at Fox and at GOP headquarters.
and this
you’re really not that dumb. Just a poor reader
and this
How ignorant are you??
and this
This is collective insanity raised to an art form
and this
And only a similarly ignorant person would say he should.
and this
Only fools or calculating politicians that think others fools have argued otherwise. I’m not sure what category Bachmann falls into.
Sir, your hipocracy knows no bounds.
jzs
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:30pmWeiner 2, Bachman 0.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:41pmABC, you assume far too much. I spend most of my available TV time on financial/business channels, not Fox or GB.
Report Post »Ireland did not necessarily tax too little. The fact is, that their (and Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy, etc.) spending far outstripped their income. Exactly what the US is doing. It is my personal belief that no country can adequately “take care” of all its citizens. People have got to be motivated enough to contribute to society.
Weiner did not lie about the CBO findings. What he did not say was that the books wre cooked by the Dems before before being sent to the CBO. At any rate, the Dems said after passage of the HCR law that it was a starting point for the “mansion” they intend to build. It WILL bankrupt us.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:55pmNever has a name so befitted the person it was attached to.
Report Post »JBates
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:55pmSad to say, but Wiener had a point. Rep. Bachmann one moment says CBO numbers are wrong and the very next quotes….CBO numbers!!! I understand the CBO can get some estimates right (the broken clock allegory) but couldn’t she come up with something better?
Point to Wiener. And deduct a point from Bachmann for boasting on Beck’s show this morning about Congress cutting their own admin budgets by 5%. She gets her point back when that changes to 25%.
Report Post »WTH
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 1:55pmI loathe this little pr*ck! He is such an immature, uninformed liberal/ progressive twit who has never had anything to bring to an argument. His district must be full of absolute sheeple who follow this mislead piped piper.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:17pmI don’t agree with you, the CBO numbers Bachman did not agree with were estimated using false input. Michelle said as much “garbage in, garbage out” The spending chart wasn’t victim of cooked books and sleieght of hand input. She didn’t say the CBO was always wrong, just wrong when given bogus numbers to start with.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:37pmabc, what the heck are you talking about? You didn’t watch the same segment that I did or you would not have made the claims you did. Oooops, I forgot, folks like you are brainwashed so you can’t help yourself. My bad.
TX Progressive
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 2:53pmI bet that is the first time Bachman saw a Weiner she didn’t like…BAM
Report Post »White Devil
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:14pmWell I have an idea for “snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}”. Follow the Blaze rules you signed up for and stop breaking the Blaze rules by promoting your personal/commercial site. What does it take to get through to you?
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 3:51pmI’ll hand Tony Weiner one thing: he’s clever. He’s a very tricksey little liar. Anyone with eyes though, can of course see right through him. But as we all know God is absolute. Those who live by the sword will die by it. And by extension, those who live by lies will be consumed by them. (That’s really gotta hurt!) So we as Patriots and seekers of truth need not be frustrated, angered or even overly concerned by his and the professional Lefts’ corruptions and despicabilities. They can’t sustain it. It takes far too much energy. We on the other hand can live by and in the truth all day, all night and all god damn year long right up to when the chickens come home to roost and beyond.
That’s why we won on Nov. 2. Truth ALWAYS wins in the end. It‘s why we will continue to grow and win and that’s why after the Left has finally gotten their lifelong dream of collapsing civil society and the Government we will still be standing there to pick up the pieces and start over with responsible society and Constitutionally small and limited Government.
That’s also why I love Glenn Beck. He tells the truth. In fact, he lives in it. It’s called Holy Spirit by an older, more powerful name. It pours through him like a river. He is the burning bush. He burns yet is not consumed. It comes out of his pores. All you have to do is open your eyes and it’s obvious, even to Lefties whether they admit it or not. That drives the Left nuts (especially the professional Left:) and driving the Left nuts makes me smile… deeply. Because they’re just so very full of sh**.
So those of you on these forums who seek to disrupt, ridicule and hurt us take note. You strengthen our resolve. You attacked the Tea Party and we grew stronger. You said we’d forget and our memories have burned deeper. You tell lies about and ridicule kind, common sense conservatives and yet we grow in number and resolve. If you fight us we will dominate and prevail. If you do nothing we will grow in peace, love and prosperity. You have no chance. Everything you do is wrong. Almost everything you think is wrong. You are the quintessential losers. It’s better to quit sooner than later. Because sooner rather than later, you will destroy yourselves.
Report Post »The Rewd
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 4:28pmI swear to God Anthony Weiner and Eddie Deezen are the same guy.
WhiteFang
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 4:29pmMain rule to follow:
Report Post »You cannot spend more than you have! Everyone knows that, so why all the debate?
longhorn mama
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 5:52pmCBO projections on health care = guesses dependent on information entered.
CBO figures on past Presidents’ deficits = historical fact.
Just because both sets of numbers came from the CBO does not make them equal.
Report Post »longhorn mama
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 5:56pmCBO projections on healthcare = guesses dependent on information entered.
CBO figures on past Presidents’ deficits = verifiable, historical facts.
Just because both sets of number come from the CBO do not make them equal.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:03pmLONGHORN, absolutely right!
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:08pmSeeker, you claim that Ireland didn’t “necessarily” go bk because of too low a tax rate. Where is the proof? The social spending in Ireland as a percentage of GDP was far lower than in the big EU countries, but its income and corporate tax rates were ever farther below those countries. The corporate tax rate for example, at 12.5% was scarcely above one-third. But keep telling yourself that the problem was on the spending side only. That word “necessarily” has left you tons of wiggle room.
Kate, please explain to me why you believe the CBO data on deficits but not on health care. What are the specific inputs that make the former good but the latter bad. See, I suspect that you don’t know the inputs but just take Bachmann on faith. I also know for a fact that the inputs that Hannity called out as being wrong are not even the inputs that were used in the analysis, so he is dissembling, as usual. But I’d like to hear from you what the problem with the CBO estimates on health care refore bill costs. So please enlighten me.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:11pmA. “Little” Weiner is without a doubt the most juvenile, least professional Congressman ever. If you were as much of a dork as he his, you’d have to kick your own ass. What an ignorant punk. Why is it that it seems like the majority of Democrats are absolute embarrassments. The little Weiner is SO out of touch with reality, I don‘t think he’s human. I don’t mean to pick on him, I’m sure he had a tough life. Can you imagine being so small, and being named Weiner? He was probably beaten up daily at school.
I watched this last night and at first I almost threw up and turned the TV off, but then it dawned on me, the more this guy is on TV the more “normal” everyday Americans will be turned off by the Democrat party. What rational person would want to be associated with an ignoramus like little boy Weiner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIqryU3Sp54
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:13pmGhost, you are so funny. You are the self-appointed defender against those that would use ad-hominem arguments, but then you make such comments about a Congressman who tells the truth about the budget. Hypocrisy is not a word that you recognize, is it?
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:35pmSeeker, I’m posting this again since the first try failed. You leave yourself a lot of wiggle room by saying that low taxes didn’t “necessarily” cause the problems in Ireland. But here are the facts: social spending as a percentage of GDP was well below the average of the big four EU countries, but the tax receipts as a % of GDP were much lower than that Big-4 average. This is because the rates were too low. Corporate tax rates in Ireland were 12.5%, which is less than one-half the average of the EU. Still more revealing, what did the creditors demand of Ireland to pull out of its fiscal crisis? That’s right, a big tax increase.
See, here‘s the thing that Bachmann doesn’t get, nor do many of the people on this site: from the standpoint of a creditor or the credit markets, there is no difference between undertaxing and overspending. Unfortunately, the GOP pretends (and fails) to cut spending, but doesn’t even try to set a sustainable tax rate. This is worse than Ireland, which at least kept its social spending as a % of GDP below ours. So Ireland should serve as a signal warning to the GOP, but Fox News will never let you learn that lesson.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:54pmIt looks like Seidl pulled down my lengthier comment again. I guess the Blaze is not interested in having someone correct the many factual errors made by Hannity and Bachmann. I could try to post it again, but it is likely futile. But it is also really sad to see a website and its owner (Beck) pretending that they want you to be educated on the facts, but then pull down any corrections of the record that, while factually accurate, run counter to the fantasy narrative they seek to maintain at all cost. This serves as proof that this site is propaganda, not information that anyone can use to make intelligent decisions about their government or leaders. Pretty sad.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 6:57pmWeiner ..the name certainly fits him … what came first the name or the attitude .. LOSER!
Report Post »chickenbig
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:02pmQ: Is Weiner a whiner ?….If you make fun of him its a real “weiner roast”
Report Post »vngstr
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:13pmwhy would anyone listen to this little d-weed p#@%&. He is a loser politition that does not even deserve a reponse!!! I for one will shut them off as I did last night when he started to speak.. LOSER
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:14pmI would really,REALLY like to thank, from the bottom of my deep brass, .338 calibur casing all the good folks here who sre ignoring the trolls. When they make a point, that is different, but hateful, ad-hominem is just that. Leave it alone. Keep the round that should have gotten you hanging around your neck.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:38pmABC, of course I left wiggle room. I know of no “perfect” tax rate that fits all countries at all times. Our corporate tax rates are currently 2nd highest in the world (unless there are recent breaks that I missed).
Report Post »No disrespect, but I do not trust all your research. You should have no problem finding liberal propaganda.
Question: So why do you come to this site, to convert or to subvert? No reply is necessay.
abc
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 8:00pmSeeker,
First, you can say you distrust my research, but it’s not my research. It is statistical data from US Treasury and NBER, among other sites. This is not spin here, but real numbers.
Second, I am not saying that there is a perfect tax rate, but it is clear that Ireland did not have high enough taxes, given that its social spending was below that of all other developed economies, but it was running bigger deficits than nearly all of them. The only explanation is taxes that were too low. That its income tax rate was well below the EU average and its corporate rate was less than one-half the EU average ought to clue you in. But if you have another explanation, please let me know.
Finally, our corporate tax rate is 35%, which is now the highest in the world, followed by Japan at 33-34%. But US corporations do not pay anywhere near that rate because of the many loop holes that you don’t know about or ignore. Proof? The percentage of taxes received from corporations as a percentage of GDP is less than 3% in this country (vs. 6% in 1999), and this rate is in the bottom 10% of all OECD countries. So this means that US corporations are paying far less than they did before Bush took office and are paying less than most other countries’ corporations. Warren Buffett, who is rarely wrong, has pointed this out in past shareholder letters. You ought to listen to him, given his record of being right, if you don’t want to listen to me.
By the way, I write here because I believe that conservatives who only listen to Fox and Beck, which is, according to polling, the vast majority of conservatives, need to hear the other side. They need to be armed with facts that are avoided or dissembled on conservative programs. This is wrong and bad for America. Conservatives are entitled to their own opinions and values, but not their own facts or evidence. I tried to set the record straight on hannity and Bachmann, but the blaze posted and then later took down my post. Apparently, they do not want you to know why Bachmann is wrong and Weiner is right on the budgetary issues that were discussed on hannity’s show. To the extent that I can get the real facts out here, maybe, just maybe, a few conservatives will wake up and realize that they need to hear more facts and less mistruths. That is worth the little time I spend here, in my opinion.
Report Post »bostonchris
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 8:29pmtop predictions 2011
http://www.inflation.us/top10predictions2011.html
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 8:32pmMichele…. You were awfully hard on the Weiner last night!
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 8:55pmABC, please, facts can be assembled in such a way to prove or disprove what ever the assembler wants. Data points can be cherry picked, and so on.
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curtinrod
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 8:59pmHey Sen. Weiner said and I quote ” there’s a giant surplus in Social Security”. How does he explain that seniors this year and last didn’t get COLAS?
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:15pmTHIS IS WHY you all need to get onboard with the Tea Party. We must organize just like Cloward/Piven/Ayars, etc did 40+ years ago. Weiner is the archetypical Progressive… arrogant! Him, H Dean, Boxer, Pelosi, Reid, etc, and even the two RINOS in Maine will not go away unless we organize and run them out. We don’t have to form a third party at this point. What we need to do is drive the supposed Conservative Rebublicans to not waffle. A third party will result if the Repub‘s don’t deliver. It will be ugly, but there is no other way.
Report Post »chickenbig
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 9:18pmMaul…On that note, I say, I certainly hope that chap doesn’t end up a prison inmate. If he does , he’s doomed. Trust me, he’ll be much more than wife, and most likely be on an exclusive weiner diet courtesy of other inmates.
Report Post »Iam4EnoughALREADY
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:15pmThis is a ridiculous debate…… Everyon is looking at just numbers—and fighting about pure facts of why YOU are right FACTS yes..are Facts….but that is a game…..That is our problem in the USA right now… Being right with facts without consideration for the BIG PICTURE!!!!!!!)
Report Post »We never look at the big picture and we are not looking at persons’ intentions or integrity. Liberal or Conservative – if your true intention (a word that needs to be in the front of everyone’s vocabulary) is to truly help the national debt, decrease un-employment, and help the over-all stability of America, then I will listen…..
So Facts are facts ….with numbers…right? So under Clinton, did we get attacked on our own soil and loose over 3000 lives and several historical buildings in our most recognized city in America? Oh that was Bush……. MY INTENTION (if I were president) would be to spend ANY amount of money to protect my people and my country…..(Oh, gosh, we are just looking at the numbers…never mind) see…that is the problem with NOT looking at all the events, circumstances, etc;—
We need to get back to basics….run a country, like you would run your family…..I would run up debt, etc; to protect, save their lives, and make sure no harm came to them……Once that was protected…..I would SACRIFICE ALL that I could that was excessive to pay back my debt that I OWED. This is not a confusing number games, it is Common Sense…….why can’t we get back to basics…..
suttonea76
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:38pmABC, Weiner and other Democrats are playing a gamble on that forcing people to buy insurance will cut the overhead taxing of other tax payers. The problem is that this only applies to 30 million of the 300+ million people we have currently in the US. Again, Democrats are making laws for the few and not the many. Also, this is absolutely a gamble in that the Democrats ASSUME that all 30 million people that aren‘t insured can’t afford it when the numbers would more accurately affect maybe 20 million to which 15 million are here illegaly. THAT is the real problem that the entire government fails to address EXCEPT Governor Brewer and alot of following suiters in other states. Please don’t be one of those liberal shallow thinkers that throws money at problems and turns around and calls it a entitlement. The root of the problem is government THINKS they can fix things when they don’t pay their bills. Bush had two wars, Katrina and kept us safe after 9/11 and Obama quadripled his spending in 2 years with no wars, no disasters (besides BP to which they pumped in close to 40 billion in their own money to offset lost wages and assistance with cleaning the Gulf) and then threw in more legislation that MOST Americans disagree with. Obamacare, QE1 and QE2…need I go on. More executive orders were passed giving him power not warranted and he directly questioned the actual Constitution of the United States as a document that limits you to what you can’t do…..THAT IS EXACTLY why the Consititution exists since they knew government would screw everybody up. This President is clueless and can’t lead. I know Bush had his faults and spent money on TARP before Obama and at least recognized the risk while Obama and that idiot Biden were quick to call last summer the “Summer of Recovery”. Conservatives will stay the course regardless of any skewed liberal numbers are thrown at us. That is what our founders did to create this land or else we would all be liberal Brits rioting in the streets of London….oh wait…they are already doing that. So don‘t go pulling up bogus URL’s explaining your side and not the facts. Both sides overspent, but Dems are making excuses for it and STILL blaming Bush. Childish and ridiculous. At least Obama showed American how NOT to run a country.
Report Post »suttonea76
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 10:44pm@IM4ENOUGH…
I liked the majority of what you said but I strongly disagree that 9/11 was Bush’s responsiblity at all since he was in office less than 8 months when that happened. Clinton set us up for that specific attack with his arrogance and lack of preparedness. I served in the Corps during his tenure and saw that idiot close base after base to balance his budge…remember…his claim to fame during a majority Republican House? Clinton had the knowledge of Al Qaida and Bin Laden but couldn’t take care of business when he was already listed as “MOST WANTED” by the FBI and Interpol…
Like I said, you made good general points by looking at the big picture, but look again at 9/11.
Report Post »Iam4EnoughALREADY
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 11:35pm@sutton– I am afraid I was miss understood……I just started typing from my heart……and I just go! I am NOT blaming 9/11 on Bush at ALL……I am saying…he happened to be president when it happened….the devilish plot happened “while he was president” Sooooooo he spent $$$$ to protect us…..(in my opinion) lots of it……..Who would’t under those circumstances…….putting us in debt, etc; I would of done some of the same things…….It sure is easy…..to crucify people after the facts and plots play out……….but no one does in the moment.. ALMOST every democrat voted to attack Iraq aftter 9/11 including Hiliary and the gang—- I could go on and on……getting off the point……
I am just trying to judge people on their true intentions……….
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 2:29am@ABC
Very convenient how every one of your posts seems to get posted except for the one you claim has all the evidence proving your arguments.
Yeah the evil blaze is monitoring your posts in real time just to make sure your “truth” doesn’t get out. You just became officially laughable, on top of already being a buffoon.
Report Post »mcfinch
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 4:43amLOL
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Video Website
Report Post »Colonial Revolutionary
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 6:36am@ABC
Report Post »You really make it annoying to read a thread. Every other post is you blathering on. Get a life.
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Posted on January 8, 2011 at 9:21pmThat was pretty SMALL of Weiner. And size DOES matter.
“Let’s face it. Evewything below the waist… ist kaput!” -Lilly von Schtupp, Blazing Saddles
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