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Rep. West Mocks Mandate: Let’s Force Everyone to Buy a Glock 9mm

While speaking at a campaign rally in Florida, Rep. Allen West (R-FL) mocked politicians who use taxation as a means of regulating behavior (the most recent example being the tax [not a penalty] on Americans who don’t want to participate in “Obamacare”).

“What will be next? If you don’t buy a certain type of green car, they will tax you. If you don’t buy a certain type of food, they will tax you,” Rep. West said.

“Well, I got a great idea: I believe for personal security, every American should have to go out and buy a Glock 9mm. And if you don’t do it, we’ll tax you. Now, I wonder how the liberals will feel about that one,” he added.

(H/T: Breitbart)

Front page photo source: Lilly Echeverria, Miami Herald. This story has been updated.

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  • Banter
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:22am

    .45acp, so you only have to shoot once.

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:35am

      I have an idea along those lines. Let’s force everyone to have car insurance. That way if somebody hits your car, you’re not out the cost of a car. Or let’s force everyone to pay for the Iraq war, the biggest blunder since Vietnam.

      jzs  
    • FilesCreekMafia
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:54am

      Really? Learn to shoot and a .22 will do the trick.

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    • Gregg.davis
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:56am

      I got an idea JZS. How about you stop comparing apples to oranges. How about we let the hospitals say “if you don‘t have insurance you can’t come in here” Watch how fast people stop using the emergency room as a doctors office and how fast they get insurance instead of nails, weaves, tattoos, and spinner rims.

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    • Ben__Franklin
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:58am

      Wow JZS the comments I read about you are spot on. You really do not have a clue. You are comparing Apples to Oranges. Here is a run down on Car Insurance that you Lefties would always loose in a debate before calling me a racist homophobe, Tea ******, etc…because you cannot win.

      1.) Car insurance for everyone is not a mandate
      2.) Car insurance is only for those that “choose” to drive
      3.) Car insurance is controlled at the State Level
      4.) Not carrying Car insurance because you “choose” not to drive does not have Big Daddy’s IRS thugs taxing you for doing nothing.

      Now smoke that in your pie hole.

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    • ghouse09
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:04pm

      JZS… Car insurance is a state issue NOT federal. The federal govt was given 3 powers when it was founded. War, interstate commerce, and national currency. If you don’t like being taxed for WAR you have two choices.
      1) vote to change things
      2) LEAVE THE USA

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:07pm

      @JZS
      You don’t have to buy car insurance unless you CHOOSE to buy a car. If we set it up the same way as the health debate, if you DON’T buy the car, you get taxed. See the difference?

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:18pm

      Healthcare went down the drain when government stuck its nose into it back in the 60′s. You can not separate payment and the recipient of the service. It’s called overuse. And, the unintended consequence, like all welfare, it spreads the seeds of irresponsibility, laziness, and division among those who pay and those who play.

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    • thewatcher93
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:23pm

      JZS,

      Most people don‘t mind paying for car insurance for a death trap they roll around in becuase it’s affordable and competitive, when the president says he wants to nudge people to buy health insurance with a tax which will make it more affordable when the reason poeple don’t have health insurence is because A) they are an illegal immigrant or B) IT’S NOT AFFORDABLE, the health care plan make NO SENSE! Oh but I forgot, the president didn’t say that, he said it wasn’t a tax, so my mistake.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:31pm

      The Second Amendment – Right to Bear Arms. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be INFRINGED.

      This is MY RIGHT to OWN and to BEAR ARMS… PERIOD!!!!

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    • Tom
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:38pm

      JZS you “F”ing moron we are paying for IRAQ and so are your kids and there kids and now every non productive p.o.s. heath insurance! Your such an embarrassment that even feces is higher on the food chain then you are.

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    • Banter
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:42pm

      Hey JZS,

      Long time, no banter.

      You have been offering up the car insurance theme over several articles on this site. Several posters have debunked your thought process on this, yet you still bring it up. Why? You know it is a state issue, not federal, so there is no comparison.

      Check your fax machine, I think it is stuck on printing out the same material. I suspect you have new marching orders you haven’t seen yet.

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    • single stack
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:45pm

      Files,
      It doesn’t matter how well you shoot on a range. Shooting under the stress of self defense changes everything. If you ever had to shoot to save your own life you would understand why people who depend on guns for their lives don’t carry .22s.

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    • Publius Duo
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:51pm

      JZS
      Let’s finally put the car insurance arguement to be shall we.
      There’s one hugh difference between mandated health care and mandated car insurance…. wait for it….
      Whether I need it or not, I have to buy health insurance for just being alive.
      If I don’t own a car or ride public transportation, (you libs love that idea), then I’m not required to buy car insurance now an I?
      I know let‘s mandate home owners insurance for those who don’t even own a home?

      You libs are true geniuses.

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    • Mapache
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:53pm

      Then it would be a Glock 30…….

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    • GrumpyCat
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:01pm

      JZS is clueless and so are most of the replies.

      The only reason automobile insurance is required is TO PAY FOR THE OTHER GUY’S DAMAGE.

      If you finance then your finance company will demand that you protect their investment with insurance. Your state may demand that you purchase LIABILITY insurance to cover damage you do to other motorists. As for damage you cause to your car, yourself, or your passengers its all up to you.

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    • SageInWaiting
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:03pm

      Rep West has bee reading Ed Morrassey at HotAir.com:

      http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/29/a-modest-proposal/

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:07pm

      ya’ll leave JZS alone.

      He solved the world’s hardest sudoku in 30 minutes.
      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/can-you-solve-the-worlds-hardest-sudoku-we-couldnt/

      Of course if you actually TRY it, you will quickly see the rediculousness of his statement…

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:15pm

      Sorry folks, the analogy is a good one. If someone hits your car, and they don’t have insurance, you have to pay for the other person’s failure to be responsible. Everyone recognizes that is not fair. The law recognizes that when someone is irresponsible, and it causes you damage, they owe you for the damages.

      When people don’t have insurance and get sick, they are still able to get treatment, at least some. Reagan recognized this basic human and Christian value when he passed a law requiring hospitals to treat patients whether they can pay or not rather than just let them die it the waiting room (which some of you are fine with I realize). Of course somebody pays. That would be you in higher medical and insurance costs. Their irresponsibility causes you to pay more than you would have otherwise.

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    • Gorp
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:46pm

      I’d be a bit angry if taxed into buying a Glock 9mm. I wouldn’t be as angry if taxed into buying a Ruger P-90 .45 ACP though. It would enjoy hanging out with my Ruger P-95 9mm

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    • I.Heart.America
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:49pm

      Senator Jim DeMint of S. C. founder of The Senate Conservative Fund……

      “We cannot just elect any Republicans to do this. We‘ve seen what happens when we send Republicans to Washington who don’t truly believe in the principles of freedom. They back down, make excuses and refuse to fight against the big-government agenda”.

      “We must support true conservatives who can be trusted to repeal ObamaCare. ALL OF IT”

      Please sign his petition: REPEAL IT ALL…and support HIS conservative candidate picks..
      http://www.repealitall.com/?c=bd1260e8bc77e978f374a01a1f8338d5

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    • proliance
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:50pm

      Why don’t we force everyone, including people who choose not to own a car but instead ride trains and buses, to buy car insurance? There would be more people in the insurance pool therefore everyone could be covered and they would pay less, including the people who keep wrecking their cars. /s

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:01pm

      of COURSE the health care/insurance industry needs reform.
      nobody argues that…

      but it is the INDUSTRY that needs monitored – not citizens.
      Estimates say 7 out of 10 people in health care never SEE a patient – they are paper pushers.

      Insurance companies are state monopolies – they have no competitors.
      They can charge whatever they want.
      And many people who REFUSE to work already get tooo much free stuff from US.
      Insurance companies “donate” so much money to politicians that politicians
      REFUSE to regulate inflated prices / inter-company price hikes and massive bonuses.

      The only thing Obamacare does is give them all a bigger pie to slice up.

      Until COSTS are controlled and competition is allowed, this garbage will only benefit
      stockholders, directors and politicians.

      The analogy of car insurance doesn’t work unless you are saying we should give
      FREE insurance to uninsured motorists…

      Is THAT what you want next?
      When we all quit purchasing and get if free, what will THAT do to your taxes?

      The same as this trash will…

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:02pm

      Instead of a Glock, it needs to be S&W.
      American company…

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    • Fubared
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:13pm

      JZS
      Cough syrup is not good for you in those quantities that appear in your posts. Use a straw dude and buy it in cases. For the health and safety of those in your lil orbit and all.

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    • mcsledge
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:26pm

      FilesCreekMafia

      Yes, a .22 will do the trick if your accurate. However, most law enforcement and consultants in this arena will tell you to get a bigger gun. It’s clear that you are not one of them.

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    • OKC08GT500
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:32pm

      Make that a Kimber .45.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:45pm

      NEVER limit yourself to One Platform… have several ready to use!

      Report Post » lukerw  
    • jhp230gr45
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:50pm

      Yeah, I truly agree on that one…make it a .45 ACP….a little more room for error and stops perps better…

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:04pm

      Just let me know which one, so I can but some stock first.

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    • ambrosia
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:11pm

      Let’s play “Leader or Loser”.

      Look & listen to Rep. Allen West & then look & listen to DonkeyBalls-Obama.
      Who is a leader, who is a Loser ?
      If you have any doubt….you area complete mindless fool.

      West has leadership & love of country written all over him.
      Oblameo has loser & love of self written all over him.
      America needs a resolute man, not an arrogant mouse.

      If King George-Obama & Queenie Pelosi could tax the liberals on their utter stupidity.
      they’d wipe out the deficit in 24 hours-
      oh, sorry, that’s right, they’re liberals and too stupid to think of that !

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    • aschrec
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:24pm

      @JZS…Sorry, your comparison is STILL not valid, because you are only talking about people who actually own cars or drive. Most states do require you to have car insurance, btw or pay a fine (not a tax). In case you didn’t notice, the health care bill requires that ALL Americans pay into the health care system, whether they want to or not (this includes people who, for religious reasons or otherwise, choose not to ever use medical services). Well, except for the illegal immigrants of course…they still get theirs for free with no tax. Convenient.

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    • ScottT
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:29pm

      I totally disagree with Senator West on this point. It is a proven scientific fact that the 1911 .45ACP is superior to any Glock, I prefer my Springfield Loaded. I wonder if states will be forced to setup a gun exchange where we can get discounted handguns. Will illegals be given free handguns as well? There are a lot of things to consider here.

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    • JZS.braindead
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:50pm

      JZS your car analogy is so bad on so many levels. No one is forcing u to drive r they? Obamacare is forcing you to buy insurance without even driving( getting sick). Car insurance companies “discriminate” against everyone Your age, your type of car, your history, etc…… Obamacare forces insurance companies to ignore indicators that the person is a terrible driver. The only reason you have car insurance is because you make choice to drive. Also driving has potential to directly affect someone else’s life. SO I’m forced to buy car insurance to protect other people NOT MYSELF. GET A CLUE

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    • slkgej6
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:26pm

      JZS, if you don’t drive, you don’t have to pay for car insurance. Mandated health insurance taxes based on living. Paying for wars is part of a direct tax that was prohibited by the original constitution. That was mandated by liberals, by the way. It is plain foolish that Obama and all his cronies denied, even to the Supreme Court that this was a tax. Now, it’s all ok so long as it IS a tax. Facts would probably help your whining and mockery a bit, but having dealt with liberals for my entire life, I know that is beyond the education level of most who feel that they have an abject right to the largesse of their more successful peers. Here’s a question, how much are YOU wiling to pay for Obamacare? I know, nobody who isn’t rich will have to pay anything, yet another example of liberal stupidity. You could take every penny of every person you consider rich and it wouldn’t come close to paying for even the national debt prior to even considering a plan that is guaranteed to bankrupt every American. You, like most liberals, probably don’t care about the results of what is being promised, only that it sounds good or make you feel superior knowing you have been so generous…with someone ELSE’S income. Banter, keep up the good work. I seriously doubt that JZS is capable of understanding any of our words, though.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:52pm

      You are not penalized for not having car insurance, if you don’t own a car. Don’t want to have car insurance? Don’t buy a car. Don’t drive a car. But with health care, you have no choice. you either kill yourself or buy health insurance. Now, if they decided to make everyone buy car insurance whether they bought a car or not, you’d have an argument. West is right. Now they can say, you can buy that SUV if you want, but we’re going to put a “luxery” tax on it. The only car you won’t be taxed for buying is a Volt or similar car. Just remember, liberals, if this stands and we get in office…….

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    • Canada_Goose
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:43pm

      Actually for healthcare it actually makes more sense to require everyone to purchase health insurance than it does for drivers to purchase car insurance. The healthcare insurance market is actually very unique, here’s why…

      It’s quite common to have never had an accident in 15, 20, 25 years of driving. However it’s almost a virtual certainty that everyone will need some type of healthcare or a require a hospital visit.
      Suppose you don’t have government insurance and you’re not insured by your employer and the individual policy market in the US essentially prices most people out. You develop some type of medical condition which involves very expensive medical treatments. This will of course be provided without regard to your ability to pay. These costs in turn are often transferred to other Americans.

      This situation is unique to the healthcare insurance market and is not analogous to mandating that you purchase broccoli or a 9mm handgun.

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    • jackbauer
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:48pm

      JZS knows what he’s saying is an apple to orange comparison. He just likes acting like he’s been hit with the stupid stick! Libs wear their ignorance as a badge of honor while dismissing truth and fact. It’s all just a song and dance to them. They know their arguments are bankrupt so they play the “I’m an intellectual and your not card” without ever addressing the factual errors.

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    • Weedwhacker
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:49pm

      Everyone isn’t compelled to buy car insurance, only those who drive or own a vehicle. No one is compelled by the government to drive or own a vehicle. Nice try, but not really thought through.

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    • Sayyadina
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 8:02pm

      If we are too poor to buy a Glock for every member of the family can we get welfare vouchers for free ones?

      I JOKE!
      Glock’s alright, but I’ll stick with my Springfield 1911 clone :P

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    • williemcd
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 8:59pm

      I’m an owner of of Ruger 41 Blackhawk and got a great deal on it. It’s only fired 18 rounds leaving me a box of 32… How many rounds do ya’ll think I need?… I’ve also a 22 long gun and a 25 and a 22 pistol.. (Vintage 1915′s.. US Pistol)… So.. what I’m asking really is: Should i sell the US Pistol and utilize the proceeds for ammo or stock up on ammo for all?

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    • jeezpeeps
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 9:00pm

      Ok folks… I would much rather hear about the choice of weapontry to purchace and mandate that the public buy or be taxed than to hear you guys responding to JZS. Just think if they would pass that law then we would probably lose 50% of the jerkwad libs overnight. Because they wouldn’t be smart enough to read the instructions or safety precautions. It would do wonders for the casket companies. Plus it would insure that we would be rid of progressiveism for at least a few generations. JZS I’d miss you though.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 9:01pm

      THIS MUST BE STIFLED:

      Could UN arms treaty infringe on US Constitution? It will INFRINGE on the US constitution!

      http://video.foxnews.com/v/1719546416001/

      Each country needs to worry about themselves. Stay out of each other business in this regard.

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    • aclw53
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:35pm

      Already Have My Clock 19 9mm. What a Fine Weapon.

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:41pm

      JZS.braindead says, “JZS your car analogy is so bad on so many levels. No one is forcing u to drive r they?”

      Braindead, first, stop using text message abbreviations in your written communication. It’s not cute anymore. Smartphones have put those abbreviations out of business, not to mention keyboards.

      In any case you’re right as far as I understand you. Nobody is “forcing” to drive a car in the sense that no armed soldier shows up at your door and forces you into your car under threat of death, makes you start your car and drive it. If that’s your definition of “force” then you are correct, that doesn’t happen. In the same vein nobody forces you to have electricity in your house, and nobody forces you to have water service. You can get water in a nearby creek or lake. And nobody “forces” you to buy food when there are roots and berries in a nearby park which you could survive on.

      And nobody forces you to take your child to a doctor when they get sick. They’ll treat your child though, insurance or not. And who pays for that: I do. I’m “forced” to pay for that when raise my payment to cover what you can’t pay for your own child.

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:10am

      I find it funny when these conservatives talk GREAT but end up endorsing the worst candidate EVER.

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    • mzk1
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:33am

      Which is why you are obligated to pay only for minimum liability, and not for collision or comprehensive. And only if you use the state roads. AND it’s not a feredaral law (a federal CDL is interstate commerce).

      So you made our point for us.

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    • bambam1800
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:06am

      Jzs… I dont know where you live, but I know you are just another lying Soros pawn. Go to a news outlet that cares about your lies…(Like MSNBC)……. We dont care. You CONSTANTLY troll here and its getting old. We know the truth…. you are’nt changing any minds, and you are hurting your own cause and wasting your own time and your moms bandwidth..

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    • romaddan
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 3:54am

      @ JZS: I hate when people from both side of this issue use the “ we are required to have car insurance” line… Here’s why:

      - Driving IS NOT a “RIGHT” ( unlike “speech”, “religion”, press”, (fire) “arms”, etc, etc…) but a PRIVILEGE. Driving is a privilege granted by the State, therefore they (the State) can impose rules and restrictions for the activity of driving – If you drive on a government owned ( public) road.

      — You DO NOT need car insurance on a car if you own out right (no lien against it)… So long as you don’t drive your vehicle on a public (State maintained) road. Once you do enter a “public” road the State requires you to have car insurance AND a drivers license.
      ————————– AND of course ——————————
      — Your bank requires insurance to protect THEIR investment, as long as you owe money on a financed vehicle, part of your contract with the lien holder is insurance…
      ————————- Long Story Short —————————-
      - You can own, operate, and drive a vehicle on private property w/o insurance – or a drivers license for that matter…

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    • william 123
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:32am

      Too bad JZS we can’t tax you for being a liberal……

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    • Alky
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:03am

      If everyone had a firearm, home invasions would instantly be a non-issue.

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    • boyd9
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:57am

      West for VP. I don’t particularly like the mandate, but it is NOT the reason I don’t like Obamacare. It is the other 2600 pages of personally intrusive and large bureaucracy creating parts of Obamacare that make it seriously flawed and destructive legislation. The mandate is an irritant but it is definitely not the worst part of Obama’s terrible health care bill. JZS- purchasing car insurance guarantees me access to a car repair facility if I need it. Purchasing Obamacare insurance doesn’t create more doctors or hospitals or nurses so I may have an insurance card but be completely unable to see a doctor or check into a hospital because they are overloaded with patients. Obamacare is really a mandate for SUBSTANDARD medical care. The health care system can not support 30 million new patients and maintain the same quality of care. I don’t mind paying for someone to go to an emergency room the way it is now. There is no federal bureaucracy expense, there is no IRS agent chasing me down to expect payment and it is much cheaper to continue as we are than to pay for this giant mind numbing and bureaucratically ineffective legislation which is Obamacare.

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    • STGCSSW
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:58am

      JZS, not everyone has to have car insurance, only those who choose to own a car. Even then the state, not the federal government, requires only liability insurance. Anything beyond that is a requirement of the finance company for their protection, which you can avoid by paying cash, or the owners personal decision. Not everyone is paying for the wars. For instance, illegals who get benefits but don’t pay taxes, low income citizens who don’t pay taxes, and others who through legal or illegal means avoid paying taxes.

      I’m sure you could come up with a better and more approprtiate example than you have. Try again.

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    • BitterBobHere
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:21pm

      Now now good people stop picking on jzs- he is hurt because his mother won’t let him have a Glock 9 or even a Red Ryder; she is afraid he would shoot his eye out. As he seems to NOT know how State mandatory minimum insurance works………………

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    • AlmostaCowboy
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 3:11pm

      J-
      You may be on to something (more likely just “on something”). And for people who don’t have cars? Do they have to buy insurance even tho‘ they don’t have a car, or should they be coerced into buying a car too. I mean, using progressive logic, “sooner or later everyone’s going to go somewhere”.

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    • getalong
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 3:30pm

      Just saw a political ad regarding Obama’s new tax for middle class and the poor – requiring people to purchase health insurance. The IRS will be collecting the tax for those who do not have health care. They say it will be a tax of approximately 700/year if you don’t purchase. What they don’t tell you is that it will be heck of lot more if the IRS is collecting. You can expect to pay the tax, plus outrageous financial penalties in the form of interest and fines that the IRS will heap on top of the $700. If the Republicans in D.C., had any brains they would aggressively pursue putting out there the amount of interest and financial penalities that will easily make that $700 tax become $2,000 per individual. If we want to get this country moving ahead we need to redo the tax code. The IRS reminds me of the old Mafia loan sharks who add outrageous fines if they are not paid off. Same thing. Check out it readers.

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 4:09pm

      interest and late fees don’t happen as long as you pay the tax ON TIME.
      They will most likely deduct it straight from your refund or “correct” your return – for those
      who don’t get a refund – and bill you for the extra.
      As long as you pay that immediately there shouldn’t be ADDITIONAL fees.

      Don’t get me wrong – I HATE this crap – but late fees are only if you are LATE.

      Then again, apparently they can put anything they WANT in writing and get away with it…

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    • finky555
      Posted on July 4, 2012 at 5:49pm

      Sorry about the Canada Goose jumping into the fray, but s/he has been paying for “FREE” health services in Canada for so long s/he doesn’t remember it is totally supported by taxes. In Ontario it is OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan). It was implemented as OMSIP (Ontario Medical Services Insurance Plan) in 1966, replaced by OHSIP (Ontario Health Services Insurance Plan) and finally called OHIP in 1972. As you can see we have been at his for a very long time. Wiki has a pretty good write up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Health_Insurance_Plan but left out the fact the birth control was originally covered and was stopped early on. The article does not note that there is a severe shortage of doctors in Ontario. Americans should fight this thing with all they have, the taxes will drive your economy into the ground.

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    • IIIcorp
      Posted on July 5, 2012 at 1:28pm

      I also like the 1911, but a Desert Eagle 50 or a Remington pump 12 gauge with pistol grip and adjustable stock works quite well too.

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  • SlashAndBurn
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:22am

    Already have 2

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    • IZJ
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:43am

      Then you’re definitely entitled for a tax return or free ammo.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:56pm

      yes but we don’t need liberals with them. too many prius related shootings would be what would happen.

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    • inblack
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:06pm

      Freedom is Dead.

      Roberts killed it.

      The govt may now tax you a million dollars a year to own that gun – as long as you have a choice.
      They can tax all of your property away from you.
      They can tax your free speech into silence.
      They can tax your religion into submission.
      They can tax your movement until they lock you up in jail.

      This is the farthest reaching decision in American history.
      It gives the fed govt the right to coerce you into any behavior it wants.

      The constitution is dead, the bill of rights is dead, freedom is dead.

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  • themongoose
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:17am

    I propose the following:

    The Home Defense Act of 2012

    Be it that all citizens of military age are eligible for call up by their state at times to defend the state they are required to do the following.
    All will “provide himself” with a rifle no less than 5.56 mm in caliber with detachable magazine of semi automatic capability with a serviceable bayonet all of which must be kept in good repair. A standard load of not less than three hundred rounds and ten magazines will be kept along with a suitable carrying system fit for duty. A secondary weapon (semi-automatic sidearm) no less than 9mm in caliber with four loaded magazines and an appropriate holster shall be procured and maintained.

    Monthly marksmanship training will be done at militiaman’s expense, all ammunition to be rotated by range use yearly.

    Failure to comply with this legally passed legislation will be taxed at a yearly rate of the fair market value of required equipment.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:25am

      I have a Ruger 10-.22 near the front door to take out bothersome squirrels that chew up our phone lines of all things. Think about it first. .22 caliber equals 5.56mm. You may want to go so far as say 5.56X45mm.

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    • mama6
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:26am

      @Mongoose I hereby declare that you shall run for Congress of the United States. That being your sworn duty!!! I hereby nominate you!!

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    • Nathaniel Horn
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:34am

      @themongoose

      I think that’s an excellent idea! Seriously. Once the Caliphate really gets going we are going to need it as a deterrent. I am totally down with it. If someone were to drop a massive EMP mid-country, everything electronic and electrical from coast to coast would be fried. We would be exposed like a turtle out of its shell. Everyone else in the world still needs to know that they would be staring down the iron sights of a totally armed populace.

      For all of our history before 1945 and even for a time after that, we considered ourselves a “nation of rifleman”. Maybe it would be smart and even necessary to get back to our ‘roots’… :)

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    • OhioRifleman
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:51pm

      I hereby second the nomination of Mongoose for Congress.

      Already ahead of the listed legal requirements. I have the listed gear and more, including transport capability (UTG sells a decent tactical vest / drop leg rig combination for $100, you’ll want to add more magazine pouches though). I’m still working on a decent 3-day pack, thinking about going with a reconditioned ALICE packframe right now since they are so cheap compared to a decent 3-day assault pack from a good manufacturer.

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    • Mapache
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:56pm

      Those that we WANT to have guns, probably already have them….those that do not have guns already, we do not want them to get them,…..they’ll hurt themselves.

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    • daves
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:57pm

      Excellent! the only caveat would be no felony conviction or mental instability in ones history!

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:29pm

      Mongoose

      I had a Model 1911 jam on me at the worst possible time. I am going to stick with my S&W .38 Special. Do I have to pay a penalty or a tax?

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  • RepubliCorp
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:16am

    Can we mandate a American gun? And No!!! Obama-bucks wont pay for them

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    • proliance
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:53pm

      Yeah, I think West misspoke when he said everyone should buy an Austrian pistol. There’s a lot of good American gun manufacturers.

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  • Lemonade Grandma
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:15am

    MITT….please pick Allen West for your VP.

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  • scootervanneuter
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:14am

    That’s crazy talk! Make mine a Sig Sauer 9MM.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:21am

      Bought mine at the Vaihingen Rod & Gun Club at USECOM HQ back in December, 1985. It even came with wooden grips. Bought my wife a Glock 17 in ‘90. Both are packed full of Federal Hydra-Shok Plus-P-Plus, the same that I carried as a civilian cop. My SIG is in a holster with a 20 round mag inserted and a 20 round mag in the spare pouch on it. When I pick it up I have 41 rounds at the ready.

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    • Redwood Elf
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:24am

      Well in Switzerland, every adult male citizen is required to own, and know how to use, an assault rifle.

      You wonder why countries avoid invading Switzerland?

      We could call it the “Duty to bear arms” act…Every adult citizen (regardless of gender) will be taxed unless they own and openly carry (Over the shoulder or in a holster) a firearm of some kind. Especially when traveling on airplanes. Attempted hijackers wouldn’t last 2 seconds.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:21pm

      This is a 44 magnum and it will blow your head clean off, do you feel lucky punk ,,do you. Go ahead make my day.

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    • Hugh Williams
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:01pm

      This is absurd!!!!! I much prefer Smith & Wesson to Glock. LOL. If this were to happen the leftist reaction would be hilarious

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    • Fubared
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 2:19pm

      RJJ
      Get those mec-gar mags while you can…they work.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:14am

    I’ll take two.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:12am

    Speaking of our military guys bravely speaking the truth – was so happy to see this on WND from Gen. Boykin – please pass on: (Excerpts)
    “Earlier this year, a former senior Pentagon official who has battled Marxism around the globe (Ret. Lt. Gen. William Boykin) released a video warning that … Obama is following in the footsteps of Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin and others who have led communist revolutions in their nations…

    The reality is … I’ve studied Marxist insurgency. It was part of my training. And the things I know that have been done in every Marxist insurgency are being done in America today.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/hero-general-obama-following-castros-plan/?cat_orig=us

    A comment there:
    “When currently serving and former military openly talks like this you know something is brewing behind the scenes…”

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:43am

      I keep telling you that the Millitary is on the side of the American people. They keep a list of the enemys and it’s pretty long, but not yet complete. Heads up. It’s coming.

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  • Angel_light
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:12am

    I like the way Mr. West thinks

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  • bobbyjoe
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:11am

    I say that Romney should run on a “gun in every hand” as opposed to a “chicken in every pot”

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:59am

      Ever notice how some of the strictist gun laws in the country are in Washington D.C. you think they are afraid of something? ;-)

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  • MCDAVE
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:09am

    GOOD IDEA ..we will all need one if Obummer is re elected

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  • Cymry
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:05am

    i want the gubment to pay for my glock.

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  • bobbyjoe
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:04am

    Finally, a tax I won’t have to pay

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:16am

      I hear you on that. The wife carries the Glock that I bought back in ‘90. I carry my SIG and will stick with it.

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  • Elena2010
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:04am

    I prefer Walther myself. The Glock is too big and boxy to fit my hand properly.

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  • chubster
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:00am

    Will you settle for a S&W Sig .40 ? or will I have to pay a “penalty” ?

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    • JonSigMan
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:04am

      No, you get a tax credit for the SIG…lol!

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    • logmeout
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:32am

      Jonsigman is on to something. This would be like the Child Income Tax Credit where the more kids you have the more tax credit you get. So, the more guns I have the more tax credit I get. Beautiful.

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    • JonSigMan
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:01pm

      Exactly, you obviously don’t speak sarcasim.@ LOGMEOUT. But you do understand what I‘m sayin’ :)

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    • jetmech807
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:59pm

      How about a S&W 657? I’ll take my 6 shot 41 Mag wheel gun thank you.

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  • GeorgieJo
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:58am

    DOES anyone know WHAT exactly IS IN OBAMATAX?
    Heard about the 3.8% SALES TAX if you sell your house and its worth a certain amount.
    Is BHO Robin Hood?
    He wants to take from the rich BUT he takes their money for his campaign?
    WHAT else are they going to tax?
    OMG 2012

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:08am

      He‘s a hood who’s been robbin’ — that’s for sure!

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:17am

      Obama the hood .. sounds right to me!

      OMG 2012

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    • ScottT
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 3:40pm

      Robin Hood stole from the tax collector and gave the peoples money back to them.

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:57am

    If only more in Congress would step up and speak out like Col. West. Most of Congress is impotent and sheeple. I hope most are voted out!!!

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:14am

      Term limits!

      House – 3 terms
      Senate – 2 terms
      V-P – 2 terms (no Putin)

      Pay – as an O-6 w/20 yrs of service. Billet them in senior officer housing in the DC metro area (build more if needed). Give them IDs that allow access to services that our men and women use, incl DoD schools for the kids.

      No retirement unless you fulfill all 5 Congressional terms. Then retirement is whatever an O-6 w/20 gets.

      Time to remind them they work for us and are public SERVANTS not overlords. Plus — it may get rid of lots of lawyers who only know how to argue but not get anything else of use done.

      No more “professional” politicians! No more lobbyists!

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    • Redwood Elf
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:31am

      Elena: I would also recommend a limit of 16 years for Supreme Court service. Some of the old liberal dinosaurs on the court need to go bye bye.

      Isn’t there a provision SOMEWHERE to recall SC justices if they violate their oaths?

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    • bharris0
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:25pm

      Most of congress is too busy selling out the republic to look out for us, including Allen West. He is in my district but once he supported the unpatriotic act and the NDAA, he lost my vote. The same applies to %99 of congress, including Marco Rubio.
      Don’t put any faith in government to solve the problems that government created. You can see where that has gotten us.

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    • blanco5
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:39pm

      BHARRISO—-Thank you for pointing that out! I am so tired of trying to remind people of this and it’s like they want to just stick their heads in the sand and keep believing in west! What’s wrong with these people????

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  • nurseheidi
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:57am

    Right on. GO WEST!

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  • conservativejon
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:56am

    everytime Col.West talks a liberal loses its wings

    preach on brother

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  • Dirty Harry
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:54am

    That’s it, I’m writing him in for pres! lol

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  • Coded-Dude
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:54am

    A glock!?!? LOL…..At least make it a worthwhile gun, like a 1911 in .45ACP or something similar. On a serious note, I agree with his sentiment. If the government is running under the guise of ensuring we are safe and healthy, make us exercise our second amendment rights(or tax us). Give tax credits to those who own multiple firearms!

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    • single stack
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:01am

      Really, I was thinking along the same line. I don’t like Glocks and I hate Europellets.
      Guns are made of steel.
      .45s are for shooting dangerous people.
      9mm’s are for shooting Europeans.

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    • dennisS
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:02am

      Yes! A Kimber .45 ACP, none of that plastic stuff!

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    • cemerius
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:09am

      I would definitely attempt to abuse that then :) Tax breaks for ammo too?

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:22am

      I am a fan of the 1911 .45, however the Glocks are outstanding, effective weapons which have won over the admiration of many great shooters who originally thought they would be weak, fragile and quickly relegated to the trash heap.

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    • FilesCreekMafia
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:58am

      1911s are junk, 100 year old “technology” and i use that term loosely

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    • single stack
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:01pm

      Oz,
      I agree. The Glock is an excellent pistol but I don’t like the grip angle, and the trigger sucks and can’t be made better.

      files,
      Junk, eh? 100 years ago the 1911 was “high tech” and it still is. It’s the standard by which all other defensive pistols are judged and the basis for nearly every successful pistol design since. It can be anything from a very basic pistol to an extremely accurate and reliable racegun. Our own special forces types have “re adopted” the 1911 because nothing else works as well and holds up in actual combat.
      I just love armchair commandos.

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    • OhioRifleman
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:01pm

      @ Files Creek Mafia

      As opposed to the Porcelain ***** Pistols turned out by Glock? Keep in mind: the 1911 may be 100+ years old, but the 1911 action is still the basis for most modern autoloader pistols. That manner of success may rub you rong, but arguing with success is a difficult thing to do.

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    • Altair
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:48pm

      FilesCreekMafia
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:58am
      1911s are junk, 100 year old “technology” and i use that term loosely

      Upset because you can’t hit a bull in the ass with one ? Quit pressing your fingertips into the grips and make sure your trigger pull is directly through the sight picture line… you will hit, and what you hit will go down like a ton of bricks.

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  • sWampy
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:52am

    The House should pass this asap.

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  • Popp40
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:52am

    Allen West is great! He doesn’t pull any punches. However, I have tried to use this arguement with my liberal friends and they just don’t get it, they say you can’t compare the 2.

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:37pm

      I hope the situation develops that places Congressman West for a long stay at 1600 PA Avenue.

      It may take him a good three months to get things squared away. After that, you can probably find him along the border leading target practice teams against Hamas and Hezbollah infiltrators!

      Wouldn’t it be grand if we had a leader who loved this country?

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  • FeliciaJewel
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:52am

    Sounds good to me~

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  • Maxim Crux
    Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:49am

    Are you telling me I have to buy another one? Ok, I’ll do it.

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