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Report: Germany Sending Tax Collectors to Greece — Sign of ‘Colonization?’

More than 160 German “financial services executives” (i.e. tax collectors) are preparing to go to Greece in order to “strengthen the Greek tax mechanism,” according to a report published in the German magazine Wirtschafts Woche.

The magazine quotes German deputy finance minister Hans Bernhard Beus as saying “the return to active duty of retired tax collectors should not be ruled out,” the Athens News reports.

The Wirtschafts Woche article also refers to a “confidential report” from the European Commission, which claims the mechanism of tax collection in Greece is “especially problematic.”

Translation: Germany is preparing to deploy 160 tax collectors, some of which have been brought out of retirement, to go deal with Greece’s “problematic” tax collection system and make sure that revenues are being collected.

What does this mean?

Writers are Zero Hedge believes Germany is “blatantly” colonizing Greece.

“Since [Greece] no longer even pretends to be anything less than a pass-thru funding colony of its creditors, said creditors (European banks and various insurance companies) are about to send out the first group of colonial scouts in the form of German tax collectors,” Zero Hedge writes.

The report continues:

Greece will literally have to collect taxes to fund the Second “bailout package”, which is merely a front for on ongoing Greek bailout of European banks (recall that it is Greece who is partially funding the bailout Escrow Account), said tax collectors will assist their Greek counterparts (who will rather likely miss their quote of becoming 200% more efficient in 2012) in collecting money from Greek citizens to pay off German banks. If in the process a few (or all) bars of gold end up missing, so be it.

To put it plainly, “this will be literally easier than stealing rehypothecated candy from an insolvent baby.”

The article goes on to claim that this latest move by Germany is an “open attempt at colonization by a few German ‘leaders,’ who just like in every other insolvent developed country, operate solely at the behest of their banker funders.”

“We fear that such incursions into national sovereignty will only accelerate… until they are finally halted, very violently, and very tragically,” Zero Hedge writers ominously warn.

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  • TeaPartyPatriot
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:18pm

    Default seems much, much better than the alternative….
    Commandant frau merkel, in a further humiliation for Greece, has demanded that the Greeks turn over all their possessions to The Fatherland and then strip naked before entering the “showers.”
    Clearly, old habits are hard to change.

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:36pm

      The borrower is slave to the lender. I haven’t heard much in regard to the German citizens take on having to bailout their irresponsible neighbors to the south? I wonder how they feel about subsidizing Greek welfare and social programs? Mark my words that globalization through a global tax will become more and more reported in the news as an innovative way to help solve problems around the world. Endgame has begun….

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:37pm

      We are greece….. On STEROIDS !!!! we will collapse…. Sooon !!!

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    • Freedomluver
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:43pm

      Default would be better for the Greeks, but they would have to understand this first….

      “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”
      Benjamin Franklin

      Until that days comes…it’s pretty much hopeless for them.

      We are in the same boat unfortunately, and soooo many people will vote for whoever promises the most goodies.

      Now that there are about the same number of takers as there are givers…our demise is pretty much certain unless we wake people up to this fact.

      “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the Public with the Public’s money.”
      Alexis de Tocqueville
      Democracy in America

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 3:04pm

      Germany has no need to fire up their old Panzers anymore. They can now disguise them as Mercedes, with Beaurocrats inside, rather than Rommel. Conquest,one way,or the other. Good book out on a post WW2 plan by Nazis to conquer via economics, rather than tanks. Do a little Googling, and you can find it.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 4:44pm

      Never thought I would ever see a country get foreclosed on. I expect China will be doing this to us in the not to distant future.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 4:55pm

      Lordchamp-
      Romney does not have as sordid a past as Gingrich, and hasn’t said as many stupid things as Santorum. Just admit it, you like being ruled by a dictator, and you will vote for one. You either support the constitution or you don’t. Ron Paul is the only one that does.

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  • Hickory
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:34pm

    And soon the Greeks will hear; Wir haben Weisen, unser Geld zu bekommen.

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:56pm

      Maybe it’s me.

      If Germany’s paying the bills, Greece should shut their trap or get out from under Germany’s roof.

      Sorry- was I using the same argument I use with my kids?

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    • Marci
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:00pm

      This is what happens when you allow the savages who throw bombs in the streets to rule your society. Constantly demanding more of others money no matter what the consequence—they sold their souls to the devil to get a few more crumbs in Greece. We are next if we don’t stop the dependency gravy train and the constant hat tipping by the media to the Occupy vermin.

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    • Callie369
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 4:59pm

      I have been saying for the last year or two that Merkle will eventually take over europe without firing a shot. She IS the new Hitler!

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 5:47pm

      @Callie369

      That‘s the worst ad Hitlerum attack I’ve ever seen. Angela Merkel isn’t moving on anyone and from the looks of it, she doesn’t even want to!

      You’re missing the point, I think. Greece has spent itself into bankruptcy and is now using Germany’s money to pay for the things that Greece went bankrupt on. How is this going to help Germany? How is this going to have any effect at all, aside form Greece spending Germany into bankruptcy?

      If Germany wants to send their equivalent of IRS auditors to Greece to make sure the Germans’ money is well spent and not wasted, Greece has no right to groan about it.

      Let’s illustrate it this way: You have a kid in college that you’re sending your money to. The kid refuses to work, doesn’t spend wisely, and refuses to listen to any notion of yours in either of those directions but is begging for you to help by sending money.

      What do you do?

      I’ll bet you give the kid a prepaid debit card and watch where they spend with the threat of cutting them off, don’t you?

      How is this any different?

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:33pm

    As wth us.. you reap what you sow.. they voted in (not all voted) the evil within their walls of leaders and lawmakers.. just as America was led down the path by the media to vote in this President.. if you don’t think it will happen here than I tell you, you are fools! God in Heaven help us!

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  • Freedomluver
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:00pm

    Soon enough we will be in the same boat as Greece, and the root of the problem is the bankers. Seems there is only one candidate who is willing to take on this cartel, and yet many of you here on the Blaze call him crazy.

    The Fed and the IMF are in bed and are as corrupt as they come, so why are none of the other candidates even discussing them?

    Wake up folks…your “funny money candidates” are nothing but shills.

    Ron Paul 2012

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:35pm

      Ron Paul is the WORST kind of politician. A USER! He is duping his followers by saying thing they want to hear and all the time USING them just so he can have some power to leverage against the party to get his way which is to get his son on the ticket.

      He has no intention of winning since he knows it’s impossible so he makes backroom deals with Romney and sells his supporters down the river.

      When is the last time he attacked Romney on ANYTHING? Prove me wrong!

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:52pm

      The “root problem is bankers”?? No it isn’t. The root of the problem is that people don‘t want to give up their ’entitlements’.

      Isn’t this ironic?

      The food stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture,
      is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of food stamps ever.

      Meanwhile, the Park Service asks us to “Please do not feed the animals”
      because the animals will grow dependent and not learn to take care of themselves….

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    • Freedomluver
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:01pm

      @Lordchamp

      Eeerrrrr, you must have missed these….

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7RaYbToq7Q

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr2KV50BKQQ

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSVi45vfA6o

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExwqY7Wiiig

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XESux7oFMDY

      Now that you have been proven wrong, how about an apology?

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    • Freedomluver
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:20pm

      @PPMStudios

      I hear you, as the entitlement mentality is indeed out of control, but in the end it really does benefit the bankers because we are now paying around 4 billion a WEEK just in interest to service the debt.

      The bankers reap the benefits from our welfare state, even though the Federal government has no constitutional business getting involved in such matters.

      With an honest money system, such stupid levels of debt would never be allowed in the first place, and if we actually followed the constitution the welfare state would not exist at the federal level.

      On both of these issues, Ron Paul has it exactly right.

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:40pm

      Nice try but no cookie for you. Of all those, maybe the third one sort of talks about Romney directly. There rest just make vague comments. Show me ONE that has been directly attacking Romney like he has Gingrich or Santorum. Show me the scale of the attacks he has launched on the others.

      Maybe you should apologize for being duped with your eyes closed. He talks a good game but when it‘s all boiled down he’s just the same slimy politician as the rest of them. Using us and lying to us and being hypocritical about it by appearing to stand about the rest.

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    • Freedomluver
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 3:00pm

      @Lordchamp

      Talk about moving the goal posts!

      You asked for even so much as one example, so I gave you five of them, and you come back with that nonsense?

      You clearly have no shame.

      Attacking Romney‘s backing of the bailouts is pretty specific and he did that in the first link I provided you with for Pete’s sake.

      You have some nerve claiming others have their eyes closed when you make accusations that are not even factual and only based on rumors. Yours is simply wishful thinking.

      If you have an example of Paul lying, present it…and as for hypocrisy…once again…example please.

      The reality of the matter is the only one in this race with a record to back what they are currently running on is Ron Paul, and if that hurts your feelings because you back one of the candidates in the pocket of the bankers…whatever.

      Tell us…what is your candidate of choice’s position on the Federal Reserve and the IMF?

      Please…do tell.

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 4:22pm

      no goal post moved I don’t feel you met the burden of proof I asked for. Those are nothing close to what he had done to any other candidate if you could be honest with yourself.

      His actions speak volumes for themselves and no other proof is needed than the own candidates actions.

      I have no dog in this hunt. I don’t like ANY of the candidates and most likely will not bother to accept the chosen “lesser of two evils” yet again since I have no doubt that he will lose regardless.

      I merely sick and tired of hearing all the crap about Paul being so clean and shiny when he is nothing of the sort. He’s as dirty as the rest of them. Mark my words. Come time for the convention and he’ll be right in there making deals to sell you and your support out. So your vote for Paul is a vote for Romney. Can you live with that? Honestly?

      time will prove me right

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    • Freedomluver
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 5:15pm

      @Lordchamp

      Oh good Lord…here’s another example.

      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/06/05/june-5th-money-bomb-the-revolution-vs-romneycare/

      “And honestly, we don’t need 10 million dollars to match Mitt Romney.

      After all, Congressman Paul doesn’t have to defend a liberal record as governor of Massachusetts!

      He doesn’t have to defend passing a bill just as bad as ObamaCare or justify conflicting position statements. Mitt Romney does. So it’s ok if he has a bit more money than we do.”

      He’s going to need it!
      ———-

      Will you move the goal posts….yet again?

      If you claim Paul is dirty, then you should at least be willing to give an example.

      Ron Paul could not sell me on any other candidate because as far as I’m concerned they are all shills for the bankers and the elitists, and that certainly applies to Romney.

      Myself and many others have made it abundently clear that if Paul is not nominated we will either write him in or go third party….period.

      The fact is…a vote for anyone other than Paul is a vote for the banksters.

      NO ONE BUT PAUL…..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_OV8RSgCr2g#!

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  • eaglesview
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:58am

    Was anyone really naive enough to think that Germany wasn‘t going to have eyeballs and hands involved to protect the billions they’ve sent to the Greek money sponge ?. Go broke, beg for money, better expect the lender to get heavily involved in protecting their loan. Hey Barry, which office in the West wing does China get ?.

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    • BarackStalin
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:23pm

      Seems like the Germans bought a colony on the cheap. Now they just have to keep it.

      Remember what happened when the Cubans looked around and realized that American businesses (read mafia) owned 90% of the property in their homeland.

      They simply went communist and seized all the property.

      Right, wrong or indifferent, I don’t expect the Greeks will just throw their hands in the air and say, “Oh well, we’ll just starve to death quietly since our government failed us.”

      This is just how it happens, folks. First they run up insurmountable debt. Then they convince you that communism is better than 90% income tax to pay for this insurmountable debt. Then they drag 25 million people out into the street and shoot them if they disagree.

      That’s how Communism is born around the world. Today Greece, tomorrow USA.

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:55am

    It’s more a sign of good business sense..

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  • ZAP
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:45am

    China will be sending tax collectors here soon !

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:02pm

      Forgive Greek debts & then turn around & don’t give them any loans or anything for a whole generation (20 years). If they stay afloat fine (using socialism or capitalism), if not they did to themselves.

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    • AJAYW
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:33pm

      ZAP could very well happen at the rate we are going

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    • last frontier
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:50pm

      They will literally take Boardwalk, the Railroad, and our Utilities.

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  • PPMStudios
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:41am

    When I was stationed in Athens, a lot of shop and bar owners would open a cash register from the bottom in order to not ‘ring’ up sales, thus avoiding having to pay taxes on every transaction.

    People would not finish building their homes in order to avoid paying property taxes also.

    Greeks were notorious for being ‘tax cheats’. This wasn‘t that long ago so I’m sure they haven’t changed their ways much…

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:33pm

      I suggest that similar tactics Occur here for the same reason…corrupt gov’t

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:36pm

      Stoic one

      I generally dislike tax cheats. Being former military, my wages were paid from tax receipts.

      But tax rates have to be bearable. Tax rates can’t be arbitrary or be set so some politicians can win a popularity contest due to his give aways.

      Warren “I am sucking up to Obama” Buffett is contesting his taxes with the IRS going back to 2002.

      Not all of us have phalanxes of lawyers. Tax avoidance like the Greeks practice may be our only resort.

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  • SilentReader
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:39am

    I‘m sure that’s going to go over well with the Greeks! Greece needs to extricate themselves from the corrupt and tyrannical European Union (E.U.) then they might have a chance to survive. Otherwise, the E.U. is going to be dictating their every move through the Troika.

    Then they should use the Iceland example to get out of their financial woes. Iceland was the first to be hit with this financial crisis and it should be the model that all the countries under the tyranny of the E.U. to follow! Then all the countries under the tyranny of Germany and the Big Bank should extricate themselves from the fascist and Nazi-founded E.U.

    It’s time to shut the E.U and the U.N. and their NATO enforcer-by-bombing down!

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  • Buck Shane
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:35am

    Germany should have let them sink. Greece did this to themselves; let them suffer for their actions.
    We, in the US might be next; we can’t live within our budget, either.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:48am

      I agree. The Germans should have let the Greeks sink. There is no upside, gratitude or anything for the Germans by helping the Greeks. NONE!

      Greece will continue to be in debt & spiral downward. Now the Greeks socialists will blame Germany. This could not happen if the Germans had stayed away.

      This is no different than the U.S. government bailing out the banks. Michelle Bachmann was right. We should have let several of them fail. There is more bad will to the banks & high income earners due to TARP.

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  • Chuck Stein
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:33am

    “We fear that such incursions into national sovereignty will only accelerate… until they are finally halted, very violently, and very tragically,” Which form of sovereignty is more important: national or personal? Seems that as governments diminish personal sovereignty, the wealth of the nation diminishes (Adam Smith’s “The Wealth of Nations” spells it out) — now Greece’s national sovereignty is at risk (or beyond “at risk”). The Law of the Harvest: As You Sow, So Shall You Reap.

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    • Freedomluver
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:48pm

      Seems all of the cadidates with the exception of one has fallen for the Keynesian lie. Smith was a wise man indeed, and it sure would be nice to see the current field of candidates embracing his wisdom. Instead, they mock him.

      Ron Paul 2012

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  • Eric_The_Red_State
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:27am

    I know -
    Let’s just talk about this and not do anything?

    OK?

    Ok.

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  • HorseCrazy
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:26am

    where their is a sick and dying animal, the vultures start to circle.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:23am

    Hey Greece, you are reaping what you have sewn!! Germany has ALWAYS wished to be the dominators of Europe and since Hitler and Kaiser Wilhelm failed during WW2 and WW1 they will “unify” Europe under the guise of social/economic ways……..a lot less bloodier and so much easier!!! Get ready America this is happening to us as I type too!!!

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  • Dougral Supports Israel
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:17am

    I’m not going to criticize Germany. They are being used as the cash cow of Europe. They have a valid interest in making sure that Greece is capable of collecting taxes accurately. Greece is essentially bankrupt and now in receivership. The creditors will be running things and doing restructuring, just like what happens when a company goes bankrupt.

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    • Micmac
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:44am

      Wrong. When the Euro was created this type of take over was part of the plan. Go research it to prove me wrong. The Euro was a tool to make the EU the ultimate ruler in Europe, along with the World Bank. Who controls the EU controls all of Europe.

      NoBama 2012

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  • Lloyd Drako
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:10am

    The Germans ought to know. Both their own hyperinflation of nearly 90 years ago and Greece’s current fiscal distress resulted in part from the delusion that it is a patriotic duty not to pay taxes.

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  • markggg
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:09am

    This should really terrify people around the world. Remember the good ol 1990s, when the One World Order was supposed to just be a hoax made up by a few crazy alarmists. Guess they were right all along.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:12am

      the united nations now wants control of the internet…………..

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    • UBETHECHANGE
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:17am

      Ron Paul supporters think the NWO are the “zionists” I wish they would go join OWS/99% and quit trolling the blaze since they hate Glenn Beck so much anyway and think the GOP wants a theocracy. Idiots.

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    • Freedomluver
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:16pm

      @UBETHECHANGE

      You RP haters are so ridiculous with your broad brushes. You are the kind of “useful idiots” who claim the TEA party was for the welfare state because one guy held up a sign at a rally that said “keep your hands off my medicare”.

      *shakes head*

      Ron Paul is the exact opposite of OWS, thus your attempt to link him to those leftists is about as desperate as one can get.

      It seems quite obvious that you support a candidate who actually buys into the Federal Reserve System, and you are about to learn the hard way as to just how corrupt that system is.

      “Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice.”
      George Washington

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  • copatriots
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:02am

    This should be interesting to watch unfold……

    What are the Germans going to take….personal belongings?

    Was ridiculous for Germany to loan money to Greece in the first place? Having been an Underwriter when that actually meant something, you don’t lend money to people who have no ability or desire to actually pay you back.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:10am

      Tell that to Freddie and Fannie.

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:29am

      Gonzo, you hit it on the head!

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    • copatriots
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:47pm

      Yep, GONZO, I was glad to be out of the industry 5 years before the insanity of “anything goes” standards became SOP. Funny……yesterday I just happened to be cleaning out and shredding two decades worth of old manuals and memos. I had an email I wrote from 1996 discussing how loans my company (rightly) rejected were being made as “A” paper at other lenders and not understanding why they were willing to take the risks that they were. That was 10 years prior to the SHTF and the start of the mess the industry became.

      Fannie and Freddie became nothing more than a “shell game” of financing of politicians.

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  • skipmontesjr
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:01am

    Why did anyone think they could merge 17 or so different economies and they would be equal…This was a stupid idea then and still is….I am sure Greece will become one big private German vacation resort…Can you say all inclusive…lol….

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:00am

    I guess our tax collectors will be Chinese.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:09am

      They will subcontract to the Muslim’s, they are much more effective at getting the money. Mafia never sends the boss in to collect money, they send in the Gorilla’s.

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    • red_white_blue2
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:24am

      Bingo..and do you think the Chinese given their governmental slant will treat the average American with respect that is just trying to live their lives and didn’t personally cause this situation..uhmm, can anyone say concentration camp?

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  • Nemo13
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:00am

    Whatever… Can’t blame the Germans for anything, there needs to be some gurantee from useless Greece. My advice is get rid of the Euro and seperate. Then no tax collectors or bail outs needed. Let Greece fail.

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    • happygranny
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:50am

      They should have let them go under long before this. If it can not sustain itself, whether it is a government or a business, pouring good money after bad is not a solution.

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  • richardfreebird
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:55am

    Fatten the pig before the slautter,NewWorldOrder.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:44am

    Just turn them over to the same guys that track down student loans. Oh wait, it’s a whole country. Should be easy to find.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:59am

      germany has bigger problems than collecting taxes…….they are being overrun by muslims…………..you would not think the german people would allow this but political correctness is rampant

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  • hauschild
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:44am

    Those darned Krauts!

    But, I digress. Who in the hell would want anything to do with those grubby Greeks? They’re obviously as lazy as the day is long, and I’d treat giving them loans as you would a family member; just assume it won’t be paid back.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:44am

    I will put it this way – the EU is finished and soon another European War could start so easily.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:53am

      How is there going to be a European war when no one has a large standing army?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:20pm

      War is more likely to start in the Middle East than Europe. Darmok is right. What European armies?

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